What's that means? Is the predator's skin will be black ore he's mask? Any idea/
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Probably just a darker skin with a large (but not AVP fattie) build with lots of tech and a sinister mask.
Yeah it's skin will probably have a black color scheme and it's armor might be black as well, and he'll probably be taller/bigger than the average Predator.
George Bush doesn't care about black super Predators.
Quote from: RumorControl on Sep 30, 2009, 09:54:07 PM
George Bush doesn't care about black super Predators.
;D
I LOL'd IRL
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Somebody had to say it, eventually.
Shamone!
I'd rather you didn't...
you started it! And I'll sham wherever I choose!!
I just hope this won't be like Aliens where you almost get a different species in each movie... This should be a high-ranking Pred, perhaps darker skin is a sign on age (an elder or whatever) or this colour is just used for the mask and/or equipment.
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Oct 01, 2009, 12:18:36 AM
I'd rather you didn't...
I second this.
But yeah it'll probably a predator with black armor, darker skintone and maybe bigger. Could be the best looking one if done right.
Isn't the 'Black Super Predator' part of Rob's original script?
By all accounts he was bigger, stronger Predator who sported black armor. But I haven't read the script, so I'm not entirely sure about this. Your best bet is to ask someone who has read the script, because I'm fairly sure a 'Black Super Predator' is mentioned in it.
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I hope that's what we get I mean that is Badass!!! :P
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HE HE HE, great!
"Look! Up in the sky!!"
"At what?"
"Nevermind... he's cloaked..."
^^ :D
I just hope they don't overdo it with the "super", I really hope by Super they mean Elder. :-\
Now when you say "They" whom do you mean and what don't you want them to overdo?
In addition, I hope no one here actually thinks that the Predator is going to be called BSP in the movie.
That's an absurd thought, no one would think that.
I know they wont call him that in the movie that would just be stupid, they should refer to them as hunters if they're gonna call them anything.
They described the BSP as a Predator who's "jacked up on steroids." :-\
I really don't think they will make the same mistake AvP did with the Predators and make them ridiculously huge.
I always thought the "black" was the armor, and the "super" means that the Predator is the head honcho of the hunt.
Quote from: Master Chief on Oct 02, 2009, 08:54:12 PM
Now when you say "They" whom do you mean and what don't you want them to overdo?
In addition, I hope no one here actually thinks that the Predator is going to be called BSP in the movie.
That's an absurd thought, no one would think that.
By "they" I mean Rober ROdriguez and the designers, I know the effect company can do pretty cool stuff but RR's vision of the predator may ruin them completely.
Quote from: RumorControl on Oct 02, 2009, 09:47:03 PM
They described the BSP as a Predator who's "jacked up on steroids." :-\
I heard or read somewhere that predators used to have a sort of glen in their neck that produces steroid/testosterone-ish stuff?? And that they had a small device to regulate that cause they would OD on it and kill eachother off... I'm not sure where I got that from. Hope they won't use that in the film either, ghehe
That's from Forever Midnight, by John Shirley, and I doubt the movies will use it, because AVP has already explored the Yautja concept, so introducing the Hish concept into the films would just confuse a lot of the casual fans that fox wants to attract for a new movie.
FOX doesn't give two flying f**ks what Predator culture is characterized as, as long the product being made is profitable.
just for this one time , i'd really like "super" to mean highly skilled predator that uses minimal effort to kill , as opposed to bulked up suit that smashes tree trunks down with fists....please
Quote from: highlandpred on Oct 03, 2009, 04:44:25 PM
just for this one time , i'd really like "super" to mean highly skilled predator that uses minimal effort to kill , as opposed to bulked up suit that smashes tree trunks down with fists....please
or his huge and muscular. i wont mind a 9 foot tall steroid pred as long as he doesnt look all fat and stumpy.
Every time I see "Super Predator," I can't help but wonder what Super Shredder has to do with the Predator movies. Guess I played too much Turtles in Time as a young'un.
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Oct 03, 2009, 06:08:05 PM
Every time I see "Super Predator," I can't help but wonder what Super Shredder has to do with the Predator movies. Guess I played too much Turtles in Time as a young'un.
First I laughed, and then I googled "Super Shredder", and then I was like: "Yikes! You just blew my mind!"
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I don't know what to say really... It's quite disturbing and hilarious at the same time...
It`ll probably be dark and big. To be honest I`m not hyped at all about this film. I have a feeling that we will get another one avp-r.
I can't. AVPR had some good action, but was diluted by "the hills" premise of teen drama. I think the fact that we get some ugly, tough, characters makes this sound much more appeal. My greatest fear is not that the premise will be dumb, but that the Predator homeworld is portrayed in an interesting and cool way. I'm actually kind of confident in how the predators will look. So far the only issue has been the predators faces (and with AVP their fatty build).
I think it would be cool if they recreate this shot in the film:
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Just so incredibly bad-ass, if that's what a Black Super Predator looks like then I'm excited - love that he's got blood on his face too.
Oh yea, and I second the hopes for a very unique and alien looking Planet, I don't want this to ever be mistaken for an Earth-based jungle.
I love that picture and yes it would be incredible to see that shot in the movie.
Looks like he's lecturing - "Look I warned you, didn't I? I tried time out, but you wouldn't listen."
terrific imagery.
we're a week into filming, i would say we get a look at the BSP within the next two months.
And yet, none of you is bashing AvP-sized wrist blades.
Cause they are cool bro!!
;D
Always saying that man, but only when you`re hunting aliens. It gives more space between accid bleeding beast and hunter.
Quote from: Master on Oct 19, 2009, 09:08:31 PM
Always saying that man, but only when you`re hunting aliens. It gives more space between accid bleeding beast and hunter.
I always find that a little off in AVP I mean if they know they are hunting Aliens why they use the wristblades?kinda retarded if you ask me,because the spear seems to be resilient to the Alien blood IIRC.
i know right why dont they use the spear
i will bet any amount of money that this "black super predator" is going to be able to jump extra high, be extra strong, extra fast, hes going to be just plain super! and black! yippeee, as if the frainchise couldnt get worse!
Actually, word is that the Black Super Predator is just a veteran that wears black armour.
Quote from: MadassAlex on Oct 20, 2009, 10:01:39 AM
Actually, word is that the Black Super Predator is just a veteran that wears black armour.
thats the word? can you show me where you got that info?
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 20, 2009, 11:16:12 AM
Quote from: MadassAlex on Oct 20, 2009, 10:01:39 AM
Actually, word is that the Black Super Predator is just a veteran that wears black armour.
thats the word? can you show me where you got that info?
It's in the original script...
Just stick Michael Jai White in you'll actually get a black super predator in both aesthetic modes.
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Shut yo mouth!
Foo!
Quote from: Xhan on Oct 20, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
Just stick Michael Jai White in you'll actually get a black super predator in both aesthetic modes.
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Haha I still can't believe that he is actually playing that kind of character...
The movie's beyond hilarious, and it's gonna be a perennial favorite for a long time.
Money in the bank.
I am smiling.
Quote from: Master Chief on Oct 21, 2009, 04:35:12 AM
I am smiling.
I guarentee you will be smiling more when u see the real "Super Black Predator" in its ridiculous entirety...
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 21, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Oct 21, 2009, 04:35:12 AM
I am smiling.
I guarentee you will be smiling more when u see the real "Super Black Predator" in its ridiculous entirety...
Cool, so you have seen a picture?
Care to share it?
we will all be laughing soon.
Johnny boy, just because u are a character doesnt mean you have character... i assure you no matter how bad you dont want to hear it, this movie is destined for failure.
"Successful people see alternatives and are willing to try different ways.
People who only see failure are unable to see another way and give up to easily."
if thats directed toward me than you should take it back, because youd be making an assumption about a person you never met or know. Now i stand by my hating on this movie because i know everytime i would keep my hopes up and be optimistic im always let down. Here is my logic in hateing on this movie...If i say this movie is going to be bad and it turns out good im in a good situaiton cause now ill be surprised and happy with the outcome. If it turns out bad then i wont be dissapointed and ill just go home with what i originally expected. So i put myself in a win win situation, when i was like you guys saying o this movie will be good la de daa, and it comes out and its shit than who will be in a better mood? get it???
Quotei assure you no matter how bad you dont want to hear it, this movie is destined for failure.
if thats directed toward this flick than you should take it back, because youd be making an assumption about a movie you've never seen.
when did opinions become wrong? and no one knows anything for sure, so we will see when we get the movie in theaters...
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 21, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
I guarentee you will be smiling more when u see the real "Super Black Predator" in its ridiculous entirety...
Ahem. That's '
Black Super Predator'!
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Oct 22, 2009, 09:47:00 AM
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 21, 2009, 04:47:57 PM
I guarentee you will be smiling more when u see the real "Super Black Predator" in its ridiculous entirety...
Ahem. That's 'Black Super Predator'!
lol i stand corrected 8)
Quotewhen did opinions become wrong?
So Master Chief doesn't need to take anything back then. You're learning.
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 22, 2009, 03:42:08 AM
if thats directed toward me than you should take it back, because youd be making an assumption about a person you never met or know. Now i stand by my hating on this movie because i know everytime i would keep my hopes up and be optimistic im always let down. Here is my logic in hateing on this movie...If i say this movie is going to be bad and it turns out good im in a good situaiton cause now ill be surprised and happy with the outcome. If it turns out bad then i wont be dissapointed and ill just go home with what i originally expected. So i put myself in a win win situation, when i was like you guys saying o this movie will be good la de daa, and it comes out and its shit than who will be in a better mood? get it???
Worst logic I ever heard.
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 22, 2009, 03:42:08 AM
if thats directed toward me than you should take it back, because youd be making an assumption about a person you never met or know. Now i stand by my hating on this movie because i know everytime i would keep my hopes up and be optimistic im always let down. Here is my logic in hateing on this movie...If i say this movie is going to be bad and it turns out good im in a good situaiton cause now ill be surprised and happy with the outcome. If it turns out bad then i wont be dissapointed and ill just go home with what i originally expected. So i put myself in a win win situation, when i was like you guys saying o this movie will be good la de daa, and it comes out and its shit than who will be in a better mood? get it???
Well thanks for admitting that for everyone to see.
no problem, just doing my job making some topics for people to discuss in these forums to help buy time. And to help float some new ideas around.
Quote from: Weasel on Sep 30, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
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Probably just a darker skin with a large (but not AVP fattie) build with lots of tech and a sinister mask.
The predators in AVP were not fat...
Quote from: randy4321 on Oct 25, 2009, 07:47:05 PM
Quote from: Weasel on Sep 30, 2009, 08:46:30 PM
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Probably just a darker skin with a large (but not AVP fattie) build with lots of tech and a sinister mask.
The predators in AVP were not fat...
Yes, yes they were.
Extremely. They looked like line-backers in Pred costumes.
It wasn't just that, if you look at the special features its the actual suits that are fat. You can see them hanging in the dressing room, fat arms. Its that moron Andersons concept of improvement - bigger, better.
Quote from: jordan on Oct 27, 2009, 11:40:21 AM
It wasn't just that, if you look at the special features its the actual suits that are fat. You can see them hanging in the dressing room, fat arms. Its that moron Andersons concept of improvement - bigger, better.
... and then include the armor on top of that, it was just too much!
Quote from: AncientPred on Oct 26, 2009, 04:05:12 PM
Extremely. They looked like line-backers in Pred costumes.
No they didnt look like linebackers, they looked like Defensive Ends.
What is the point of these 'super black' Predators?
Ask Rodriguez. He probably thinks a standard pred is not enough. I hope it's just a KHEWL name for a predator elite or elder..
Black Super Predator: "You hate me just because I'm black!" ;D
You're damn right I do. ;)
Racist! :D
You got a pretty mouth, boyah!
I made a quick Black Super Predator using the AVP3 game artwork, I really hope that it's at least similar as this one I made..
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He is beautiful, but unfortunately, quite unlike the BSP. Your looks normal, like should look the BSP - no stupid mutations, no modifications, etc. Classic. Quick, deadly dangerous, full of dignity and charm. :)
And wait a moment! - where the triple plasma caster? And all those spikes? RR's inventions? :D ;)
I would like BSP looked somehow like this ... I really would...
I could fall in love.
Quote from: Moody on Dec 02, 2009, 08:10:30 PM
I made a quick Black Super Predator using the AVP3 game artwork, I really hope that it's at least similar as this one I made..
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Its too tribal. Not enough technology as it was discribed in the script.
Why is skin colour such a big deal?
So what if it has black skin, black blood, black poo, who cares!?
As long its a murderous bad ass hunter that keeps you at the edge of your seat why does it matter?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 02, 2009, 09:01:22 PM
Why is skin colour such a big deal?
So what if it has black skin, black blood, black poo, who cares!?
As long its a murderous bad ass hunter that keeps you at the edge of your seat why does it matter?
Because the look of the Predator is as iconic as it's character....
Ya know in away i think this was just a gimmick to stir up the racial issue and bring more attention to the film.
Quote from: predatorfandrc90 on Dec 02, 2009, 09:11:32 PM
Ya know in away i think this was just a gimmick to stir up the racial issue and bring more attention to the film.
Racial Issue? What racial issue? I haven't seen anyone say anything of the sort...
You mean like Night of the Living Dead?
ya know black people whit people yellow people that kind of thing by stir up the racial issue i meant what people generally think. They hear black super predator and think african. Same as if saying white super predator you'd think caucasun. It playing off a comman thing to bring attention to the film.
We did not invent this, that he has to be black, mutant, psychopathic. This is RR invention. For us, the hope is that the director will not overdose news in appearance BSP.
BTW - all descriptions of BSP in the script is so terrible schematic, don't you think? It make me sick from simplifications. :-\
Quote from: predatorfandrc90 on Dec 02, 2009, 09:11:32 PM
Ya know in away i think this was just a gimmick to stir up the racial issue and bring more attention to the film.
It's something new for me... I don't think it's the point...
Quote from: predatorfandrc90 on Dec 02, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
ya know black people whit people yellow people that kind of thing by stir up the racial issue i meant what people generally think. They hear black super predator and think african. Same as if saying white super predator you'd think caucasun. It playing off a comman thing to bring attention to the film.
I don't. Really. For me he could be blue, orange or grey. It doesn't matter.
I'm bored with the original Predators and so are most of the movie going public.
The species need a reboot. If they keep churning out the same looking Predator then things will just get boring. I know 99.9% of people in this forum will disagree but I think the BSP are the best thing to happen to the franchise!
They make the Predator a monster again. I love the fact that they kidnap people and dump them in the jungle to hunt. I also love the fact that whenever they get defeated they alter themselves even more to make them more ruthless and scary. Its something different and fresh to the franchise.
I was only saying it could be viewed in such a manner. I seriously doubt this was the intended idea, i was simply saying it could be viewed this way. Which if you think about it would'nt their be some kind of backlash after the film is released(i mean on a small like internet blog amount when i say backlash) do to the fact that the top predators black. Frankly i think he's black because the color generally inspires fear and is considered by many cultures to represent death.
Quote from: predatorfandrc90 on Dec 02, 2009, 09:22:24 PM
ya know black people whit people yellow people that kind of thing by stir up the racial issue i meant what people generally think. They hear black super predator and think african. Same as if saying white super predator you'd think caucasun. It playing off a comman thing to bring attention to the film.
What? It'll never be mentioned in the movie as Black Super Predator and I seriously doubt they'll use it in promotional material as it would give away a big part of the plot....
Remember they didn't tell us about the BSP we just found out because of the leaked script...
I honestly can't see how anyone would think there's anything racist in it at all...
Read what i posted after that dude and i never said it would be used as promotional material, i basically said it would bring up a comman topic and get people thinking about the film and i never said it was raciast when a person talks about something and skin color people generally jump to the conclusion there being racist which i'm not.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 02, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
I'm bored with the original Predators and so are most of the movie going public.
The species need a reboot. If they keep churning out the same looking Predator then things will just get boring. I know 99.9% of people in this forum will disagree but I think the BSP are the best thing to happen to the franchise!
Yea .. Some people want to eat you alive ... :D (Not me ;))
1 # in the film / script there isn't Predator. Only the mutant version, BSP. It's something completely different. Our Predator is not there! :-\
2 # I personally am not bored. I do not want these changes. I want a deeper image, psychological depth, the outline of the philosophy of life. We have so many movies about bloodthirsty beasts, why do another one? This is boring! Not fresh, just making one more monster. Like so many another monsters... :-\
I can just imagine a Blacksploitation style Predator with a big Afro and leather jacket strutting through the jungle with his pimp stick!
That would be bad ass.
My comment is not racist cos my best friends black, and he wears a turban, and his on a wheel chair, and his Muslim and his got down syndrome. Therefore I'm not predjudist! Ok?
The best badass ever were Anytime and Pussyface. Why upgrade something that is good?
Just give more of it, further story, more action. But mercy, not mutating, not stupid. :-\
BTW - If could I suggest - we should stop talk about racism, it may end badly... ;)
QuoteI really hope that it's at least similar as this one I made..
That looks awesome. Sadly it will likely look nothing like that in the movie :-[.
Did I read correctly but did the script describe the BSP wearing a Medieval Knights armour?
That would look strange but it hints that they have existed and have been kidnapping people for a very very long time! This makes the classical Preds even older!
"I'm bored with the original Predators and so are most of the movie going public. "
done a survey, have you?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 02, 2009, 10:10:21 PM
Did I read correctly but did the script describe the BSP wearing a Medieval Knights armour?
Not exactly, he is described as:
Spoiler
Heavy jet black armor --- a hellish mix of medieval knight and samurai -- envelops its hulking frame like the Grim Reaper's shroud.
Desiccated remains of its victims hang around its neck and belt.
A triple headed plasma caster rests on its mount. Cruelly curved blades at the elbows. Spikes on shoulders, knees and heels. Even its dreadlocks are weapons, each strand ending with a razor-sharp tip weaved into the hair.
pg. 62
Comical description, I think.
Big, black mutated hedgehog. How is possible, than he doesn't hurt himself with every move? ;) ;D
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 02, 2009, 10:10:21 PM
That would look strange but it hints that they have existed and have been kidnapping people for a very very long time! This makes the classical Preds even older!
Yea... But we almost can't see the classical Preds in this movie. This movie is about BSP and humans. Mutated Preds vs. psychopathic humans. Maybe they are equal adversary, but I don't like it. I prefer normal Preds and normal humans. Equal adversary too. No bizarre. No freaks.
But it's my personal opinion. ;)
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 02, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
I'm bored with the original Predators and so are most of the movie going public.
Then stop watching Predator movies.
Problem solved.
I wouldn't say i was bored, You can't get much better than the original. At the same time i don't fear change either, it's just the progression of movie making, each one has to make it's own little stamp in the franchise.
Wolf "with mask" wasn't far off as good a predator as you could get in my opinion and that movie was a massive let down. Black super predators and mutants are probably to be expected to spice things up.
Just like transformers , i was a big fan of the original, but i didn't piss my pants all over the shop when i found out what the new ones looked like. You cant expect Nimrod to suddenly jump inside our heads and say "yeah that's what they want"
Quote from: SiL on Dec 03, 2009, 08:33:57 AM
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 02, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
I'm bored with the original Predators and so are most of the movie going public.
Then stop watching Predator movies.
Problem solved.
::) sigh!
what I meant was the look and apperance of the Predators - that is what I am bored off. The original Predator will always be one of my fav movies but after 4 movies the franchise needs a reboot. I think the BSP are a good idea since they bring something new to the Predator world without actually affecting the original Predators. In Predators (2010) the classical Predators we all love still exists but this time the movie centers of a new clan/species of Predators that are more ruthless and stronger then the originals - the whole genetic engineering concept is good, and makes them more terrifying.
I know many on these boards wont agree but the BSP are the best thing to happen to the franchise. After P2 and AvP movies its needed a reboot! whether you like it or not.
As for my proof, turn off your computer, go out and ask the average non Predator fan boy (i.e. the average cinema goer) who is not a member of a Predator forum. You will find a lot of fans of the original film but who now think the Predator as a B-movie joke thanks to the AvP movies.
You should be thanking RR et al for trying to make a good sci-fi horror action movie like the original involving a bad ass ruthless intergalatic hunter and not the honurable intergalatic space samurais B movie jokes that AvP movies and comics have thrusted on us.
How could you possibly be bored of this?
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I want to go to a Pred flick to see guys fighting those f**kers, not mutated freak monsters.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 03, 2009, 10:02:17 AM
You should be thanking RR et al for trying to make a good sci-fi horror action movie like the original involving a bad ass ruthless intergalatic hunter and not the honurable intergalatic space samurais B movie jokes that AvP movies and comics have thrusted on us.
grrr... :( But I like Intergalactic Samurais... Honurable hunters... I like it and I miss it in this new movie... what should I think about BSP?
Maybe you right. Maybe it's good idea and it will be good work. We will see. But it's very risky. I'm tired risky ideas, especially after AvP:R. It was risky and result was horrible.
I would prefer a different kind of change. Different innovations. I want to see
real Predators, them behaviour, culture, etc.
Real Predators, not mutated version. It's unnecessary innovation.
But I'm happy that this movie will not be next teenagers movie, like AvP:R. It's very positive at all.
This is cause for satisfaction for me. ;)
Quote from: War Wager on Dec 03, 2009, 10:12:22 AM
How could you possibly be bored of this?
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/10/mbn_predator_narrowweb__300x489,0.jpg
I want to go to a Pred flick to see guys fighting those f**kers, not mutated freak monsters.
This is what I love... :)
Not mutated freak monster... Really Predator...
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 03, 2009, 10:02:17 AM
what I meant was the look and apperance of the Predators - that is what I am bored off.
Again. Stop watching Predator movies.
That's what Predators look like.
QuoteI know many on these boards wont agree but the BSP are the best thing to happen to the franchise.
They haven't even happened yet. They might suck donkey dick in the final movie for all you can possibly know.
QuoteYou will find a lot of fans of the original film but who now think the Predator as a B-movie joke thanks to the AvP movies.
The people I work with like the Predator as it is and find the idea of "SUPA PREDATORS" ridiculous.
They aren't even fans. They just like action movies.
QuoteYou should be thanking RR et al for trying to make a good sci-fi horror action movie like the original involving a bad ass ruthless intergalatic hunter
The movie isn't out yet. I can't thank them for shit.
The only thing that can be renewed is the mask (P2,Celtic,Wolf were good examples) and the face but that the essence remains (like in P2). Other then that, keep it as close to the originals. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
QuoteAgain. Stop watching Predator movies.
That's what Predators look like.
As a Predator fan I am entitled to want something different and new without being told to stop watching. Yes, the old Predators were cool but after 4 movies its time for a change - nothing wrong with that and thankfully RR and co agree.
QuoteThey haven't even happened yet. They might suck donkey dick in the final movie for all you can possibly know.
Correct. However, the "true" Predators in AvP can also be labeled with the "suck like donkey dick" tag! Thats two films were the Predators have been shit - thats enough reason for me to be entitled to ask for something different as a fan.
QuoteThe people I work with like the Predator as it is and find the idea of "SUPA PREDATORS" ridiculous.
They aren't even fans. They just like action movies.
Thats interesting cos the people I know all think the BSP are a good idea. Whos right? who knows? Lets wait and see but I'm confident and bet my life that Predators (2010) will be the best reviewed and sucesfull Predator since the original.
Yes, I'm sure some fan boys and people like your self will hate it cos they BSP blead black blood, have triple guns, poo black poo, dont walk like Predators should do ect blah blah blah....
QuoteThe movie isn't out yet. I can't thank them for shit.
Correct. I'm just going by the script which imo is good and with good direction will be even better. I know enough about the filom to know it will have more respect for the Predator franchise then both AvP movies put together.
- Predators are monsters again, the villain in the movie, how they should be potrayed!
At the end of the day, Im entitled to my oponion and I would prefer to express it without someone telling me to stop watching if I dont like something they like. I never even said that I disliked the Predators, I just wanted something new.
When you think about it... We've already had the Black Super Predator...
Kevin Peter Hall ;D
Quote from: Doomofman on Dec 03, 2009, 02:55:33 PM
When you think about it... We've already had the Black Super Predator...
Kevin Peter Hall ;D
Absolute truth! ;D
And he was the best Black Super Predator ever. :)
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 03, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
As a Predator fan I am entitled to want something different and new without being told to stop watching. Yes, the old Predators were cool but after 4 movies its time for a change - nothing wrong with that and thankfully RR and co agree.
No, your wrong;
1: AVP is not Predator canon.
2: AVP predators were no real predators, AVP1 were als mutated fat f*cks and AVP2 was some overpowerd mother*f**ker that raped aliens.
Quote from: Moody on Dec 02, 2009, 08:10:30 PM
I made a quick Black Super Predator using the AVP3 game artwork, I really hope that it's at least similar as this one I made..
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt314/AmaR_NL/BSP.jpg?t=1259784540
Good job with this. Superb Pred if you ask me.
Quote from: Aran on Dec 03, 2009, 03:28:54 PM
Quote from: Moody on Dec 02, 2009, 08:10:30 PM
I made a quick Black Super Predator using the AVP3 game artwork, I really hope that it's at least similar as this one I made..
http://i623.photobucket.com/albums/tt314/AmaR_NL/BSP.jpg?t=1259784540
Good job with this. Superb Pred if you ask me.
Hehe, thanks, I just darkend his armor, helmet and the skin a bit, added glowing eyes and 4 litle spikes so it doesn't look how it was described in the script. :P
@Moody, he is beautiful, but quite unlike the BSP.
Your looks normal, like should look the BSP - no stupid mutations, no modifications, etc. Classic. Quick, deadly dangerous, full of dignity and charm.
This is RR version of BSP:
Spoiler
Heavy jet black armor --- a hellish mix of medieval knight and samurai -- envelops its hulking frame like the Grim Reaper's shroud.
Desiccated remains of its victims hang around its neck and belt.
A triple headed plasma caster rests on its mount. Cruelly curved blades at the elbows. Spikes on shoulders, knees and heels. Even its dreadlocks are weapons, each strand ending with a razor-sharp tip weaved into the hair.
pg. 62
So he's like big, black mutated hedgehog. grrrr (*with anger*) :-\
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 03, 2009, 02:15:15 PM
Yes, the old Predators were cool but after 4 movies its time for a change - nothing wrong with that and thankfully RR and co agree.
Sure there is - Predators look and act a certain way.
If you don't want that, don't watch it.
QuoteCorrect. However, the "true" Predators in AvP can also be labeled with the "suck like donkey dick" tag! Thats two films were the Predators have been shit - thats enough reason for me to be entitled to ask for something different as a fan.
Except the Predators in AvP aren't anything like the Predators in the first two movies.
We've already had "different" and "upgraded" Predators. They didn't work. People did not like them, so in AvPR we got what people were used to - and people loved it.
Quote- Predators are monsters again, the villain in the movie, how they should be potrayed!
Wolf was a villain in AvPR. In fact the only Predator ever to be a "good" guy was Scar. At the
end of AvP. He and the others still butchered everyone they could until then.
QuoteAt the end of the day, Im entitled to my oponion and I would prefer to express it without someone telling me to stop watching if I dont like something they like.
It has nothing to do with not liking something I like.
It has to do with changing something that doesn't need changing. It has to do with going to see a movie called Predator for something other than Predators - Basically, it's like saying the next
Jaws movie needs to be about a crocodile.
Jaws with a crocodile... I'm surprised they never tried that...
As for the Predator difference thing... I firmly believe people don't go to Predator movies for something different... They for the badass Predator the original movie gave us... Not some genetically modified freak...
You start changing the look too much you may as well rename the franchise... Hunters from Outer Space.. or some shit
Well until I see the BSP I'm going to remain optimistic. I don't see the sense in knocking something I have not seen!
I was optimistic prior to AvP and AvPR only to be let down. As a predator fan, Ill be optimistic for Predators and I hope its 3rd time lucky!
Its a possibility.
I'm very fascinating to see how this turns out because there's a lot of fresh new material in this.
most important to me is the design of the mask... hope its sick...
"Jaws with a crocodile... I'm surprised they never tried that..."
Lake Placid
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 04, 2009, 01:43:09 AM
Well until I see the BSP I'm going to remain optimistic. I don't see the sense in knocking something I have not seen!
I was optimistic prior to AvP and AvPR only to be let down. As a predator fan, Ill be optimistic for Predators and I hope its 3rd time lucky!
After being optimistic twice and being let down how do you maintain the outlook?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 04, 2009, 01:43:09 AM
Well until I see the BSP I'm going to remain optimistic. I don't see the sense in knocking something I have not seen!
@Mystic, I envy you this optimism. Really. I am not so optimistic. BSP vision is horrible, I do not like the all idea of change, it is silly and unnecessary. No sense.
You want to change the Predator. Why?
He is who he is. He behaves as he behaves. He is unpredictable enough without any change. If you change the Predator, the Predator will no longer be himself. End of story.
Predator it's the key in these movies. Humans-characters are there to create a background, interact. But these movies are about Predators. What will be forthcoming movie about? The BSP and gang psychopathic humans? Where is our beloved Predator? He appears at the end and he die like the last bonehead. Just stupid.
It's senseless. And it fills me with deep sadness. I really try to be optimistic, I try not to judge this movie until I see it. But optimism requires a foundation. And neither RR nor NA are not such geniuses for me, I'm sorry ... And this scenario shows it very clear.
BTW They should make movie about some kind of psychopathic, bloodthirsty monster and
do not call it Predator. Let them leave him alone. Let them make movie about monsters.
But if they have no idea how to make a good movie about Predators, let them not do that at all.Quote from: Doomofman on Dec 03, 2009, 10:38:28 PM
Jaws with a crocodile... I'm surprised they never tried that...
Or Freddy Kruger with acrylic nails... ;)
Quote from: Jango1201 on Dec 04, 2009, 07:30:58 AM
After being optimistic twice and being let down how do you maintain the outlook?
Well, we are disappointed enough already. Twice. As for me - it's enough. :-\
I remain optimistic because I am a fan of the original two Predator movies and that I believe that its retarded to knock something you have never seen!
All we have to go by is a script. I agree the discription of the Predator is pretty dam poor - however, ill wait until I see it on screen before deciding if it "sucks donkey dick" or not!
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 04, 2009, 09:22:22 AM
I remain optimistic because I am a fan of the original two Predator movies and that I believe that its retarded to knock something you have never seen!
All we have to go by is a script. I agree the discription of the Predator is pretty dam poor - however, ill wait until I see it on screen before deciding if it "sucks donkey dick" or not!
And I'm not optymistic
because I read the script.
But the hope dies last.(* Kneeling in the corner, praying incessantly for mercy * ;))
Not surprised it's gonna be regular Preds hunting down the SBP... along wit the humans along the way...
Quote from: wolfie138 on Dec 04, 2009, 07:30:21 AM
"Jaws with a crocodile... I'm surprised they never tried that..."
Lake Placid
Alligator was years ahead, and actually wasn't that bad, for a b movie.
My version of a black supa dupa Predator:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.tinypic.com%2F16hw7i9.jpg&hash=f821bd8ba30e773ea15029d2c6ee85edee5715d6)
Nice one, Johnny!
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 04, 2009, 09:00:08 PM
My version of a black supa dupa Predator:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.tinypic.com%2F16hw7i9.jpg&hash=f821bd8ba30e773ea15029d2c6ee85edee5715d6)
It doesn't matter that he's not like in script described. I ran out of words.
(*gazing in silent admiration*)
Well...ain't that just a regular Predator with red eyes and a black armor? :-\
I have a feeling Black Super Predator might look like that. KNB said they are going back to the original design.
Quote from: Stringer_Pred on Dec 04, 2009, 10:11:22 PM
Well...ain't that just a regular Predator with red eyes and a black armor? :-\
I did do quite a few changes on the head, arms, body and legs and mandibles. And gave him an extra set of mandibles.
The changes are subtle, and that's how it should be in my opinion.
Head comparison:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2Fm8o95u.jpg&hash=86488a0cc4e02df12a2f7e340e0592dbe65b025b)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 04, 2009, 10:37:45 PM
Quote from: Stringer_Pred on Dec 04, 2009, 10:11:22 PM
Well...ain't that just a regular Predator with red eyes and a black armor? :-\
I did do quite a few changes on the head, arms, body and legs and mandibles. And gave him an extra set of mandibles.
The changes are subtle, and that's how it should be in my opinion.
Head comparison:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2Fm8o95u.jpg&hash=86488a0cc4e02df12a2f7e340e0592dbe65b025b)
I fully agree with that, the changes should be subtle, just like the elder predator at the end of P2, same head as the P1 Pred but with small details and a greyer skin tone.
Yeah that looks perfect! Let's hope we can at least get something similar to that.
I'm too lazy to do this myself, but I think that if we just have one of Anderson's shitty preds, photoshop him like a BSP....then we practically have the BSP.
Quote from: keylight-di on Dec 04, 2009, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 04, 2009, 09:00:08 PM
My version of a black supa dupa Predator:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.tinypic.com%2F16hw7i9.jpg&hash=f821bd8ba30e773ea15029d2c6ee85edee5715d6)
It doesn't matter that he's not like in script described. I ran out of words.
(*gazing in silent admiration*)
Works if you ask me.
If we got that on film I'd be extremely happy.
There are many projects made by fans (and me as fangirl can only bite my fingers with envy) and almost every project is excellent. Why? Because changes you all made are very small, very delicate - and - the most important - not like described in script. ;) All of you don't make mutated monster, but only the next, logical stage development of character.
This is the reason, why it's so good.
And it's the reason, why RR and NA should read all this threads.
Quote from: Hybrid PM on Dec 05, 2009, 03:41:38 AM
If we got that on film I'd be extremely happy.
Me too. :)
dont understand the gripe bout BSP....
Quote from: Aran on Dec 05, 2009, 02:39:17 PM
dont understand the gripe bout BSP....
Are you serious? 'On steroids'. Black blood. Incompetent. Spikes on shoulders. Hell, I swear I remember reading they had razors at the tips of their dreads. I mean,
could it actually be that the writers of this shit let their 13 year old son loose?
Quote from: jordan on Dec 05, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
Hell, I swear I remember reading they had razors at the tips of their dreads. I mean, could it actually be that the writers of this shit let their 13 year old son loose?
You remember almost good. This is it: ;)
Spoiler
Heavy jet black armor --- a hellish mix of medieval knight and samurai -- envelops its hulking frame like the Grim Reaper's shroud.
Desiccated remains of its victims hang around its neck and belt.
A triple headed plasma caster rests on its mount. Cruelly curved blades at the elbows. Spikes on shoulders, knees and heels. Even its dreadlocks are weapons, each strand ending with a razor-sharp tip weaved into the hair.
pg.62
I post it third time in this thread, don't be angry that I'm boring... ;)
Quote from: jordan on Dec 05, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: Aran on Dec 05, 2009, 02:39:17 PM
dont understand the gripe bout BSP....
Are you serious? 'On steroids'. Black blood. Incompetent. Spikes on shoulders. Hell, I swear I remember reading they had razors at the tips of their dreads. I mean, could it actually be that the writers of this shit let their 13 year old son loose?
so that explains the gripe. my bad. havent read the script. thanx neways
Quote from: keylight-di on Dec 05, 2009, 03:13:20 PM
Quote from: jordan on Dec 05, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
Hell, I swear I remember reading they had razors at the tips of their dreads. I mean, could it actually be that the writers of this shit let their 13 year old son loose?
You remember almost good. This is it: ;)
Spoiler
Heavy jet black armor --- a hellish mix of medieval knight and samurai -- envelops its hulking frame like the Grim Reaper's shroud.
Desiccated remains of its victims hang around its neck and belt.
A triple headed plasma caster rests on its mount. Cruelly curved blades at the elbows. Spikes on shoulders, knees and heels. Even its dreadlocks are weapons, each strand ending with a razor-sharp tip weaved into the hair.
pg.62
Sounds like their just describing the armor to me but at the same time spikes or going abit far. Also jet black hay this is just an idea but do you think it's armor is made out of a xenos exoskeleton.
Quote from: predatorfandrc90 on Dec 05, 2009, 05:52:10 PM
Also jet black hay this is just an idea but do you think it's armor is made out of a xenos exoskeleton.
Me personally - No. It's too far speculation. Do not confuse the P-series and the AVP-series. :D
There is enough mess with the Predators. ;)
I doubt they'd do it at this point, reference Aliens. AVP series probably spooked them.
Quote from: jordan on Dec 05, 2009, 07:30:53 PM
I doubt they'd do it at this point, reference Aliens. AVP series probably spooked them.
Good point. ;D
Quote from: keylight-di on Dec 05, 2009, 06:05:20 PM
Quote from: predatorfandrc90 on Dec 05, 2009, 05:52:10 PM
Also jet black hay this is just an idea but do you think it's armor is made out of a xenos exoskeleton.
Me personally - No. It's too far speculation. Do not confuse the P-series and the AVP-series. :D
There is enough mess with the Predators. ;)
:D
I seriously doubt xenos are going to be referenced in this film given RR's statement of ignoring P2 and AvP.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 04, 2009, 09:00:08 PM
My version of a black supa dupa Predator:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.tinypic.com%2F16hw7i9.jpg&hash=f821bd8ba30e773ea15029d2c6ee85edee5715d6)
Nice. ;)
I wonder what a classic Predator with a face shape like that would look like with a dark ridged gnarled alligator type skin/hide..
Quote from: Haggar on Dec 06, 2009, 01:37:55 AM
I wonder what a classic Predator with a face shape like that would look like with a dark ridged gnarled alligator type skin/hide..
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh270%2Fjapgoth%2FIMG00681.jpg&hash=41f3ecc5c0e4085b8ddfa9361160f3546e1727da)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh270%2Fjapgoth%2FSH100276.jpg&hash=6783a53149b0a756e770c13905a12693d4388772)
fan made mask by japgoth he calls the "croc head"
whole thread from sculpt to paint at the hunters lair
http://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=8557&hl=croc
By claiming they'll look like they're on steroids, it must surely mean they'll look like Andersons fat Preds. Even if you add a little muscle to Predators they look beefy. Unless, they're ultra ripped. Which could look cheesy.
I hate this whole idea.
If I had to design one of these things, this would be it:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi713.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww133%2FWar-Wager%2Fpedjfiv.jpg&hash=10363ea141be6f99bfa8574a42500185a87ba564)
Is it your painting? I like it allot.
Quote from: Byohzrd on Dec 06, 2009, 07:30:51 AM
whole thread from sculpt to paint at the hunters lair
http://www.thehunterslair.com/index.php?showtopic=8557&hl=croc
Interesting, although I was thinking more along the lines of this colour and with these big ridges on its back all over the Predator's head and jaw etc:
http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com/ArchOLD-6/1166524793.jpg
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/director-nimrod-antal-talks-predators-8667
The picture to the side is i think art work of the super predator if you look to the right of the picture of on its shoulder you can see how thick and huge this thing is going to be
The teeth look more viper like, pretty cool. Of course we'll see how it plays out as a prosthetic.
I believe it's art from one of the Predator comics.
Its a fan art from http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/predator-67551323
I got all excited to start ranting, then I saw that it was some old fan art...dammit.
Dont worry ShadowPred, the time will come for the rants. :D
I'm looking forward to it, I haven't ranted enough yet.
Quote from: Spaghetti on Dec 10, 2009, 05:00:09 AM
Its a fan art from http://nebezial.deviantart.com/art/predator-67551323
Quote from: arabianhunter on Dec 10, 2009, 03:03:24 AM
http://www.latinoreview.com/news/director-nimrod-antal-talks-predators-8667
The picture to the side is i think art work of the super predator if you look to the right of the picture of on its shoulder you can see how thick and huge this thing is going to be
These mandibles are not lockable. Terribly impractical. ;)
No wonder he is so pissed off ... :D He needs an orthodontist. :D
Fanart or not, if this is how BSP is going to look than I`m all for it.
really? his tusks are almost on backwards :-/ looks more like the Blade 2 vmapire wotsits than a Pred.
The black super predator will listen to tons of Marley and have a smoking device. He is a peaceful Predator...Predator Shaman if you will!
:P
This sounds more like an 8 year old kid's idea.
This sounds pretty cool, i bet this Predator is going to look awesome...
The BSP sounds pretty cool? It sounds like pitch for a toy company. And you know what? It probably is.
How long will it be before we get to see a real picture of the Black Super Predator?
Quote from: Skinner on Dec 15, 2009, 01:15:08 AM
How long will it be before we get to see a real picture of the Black Super Predator?
I'd imagine we may get a glimpse in the trailer/s... But if RR had any sense about him we wouldn't get to see it at all until the film is released
That's what I thought. I also want to see what the ordinary predator will look like in this film.
Quote from: Skinner on Dec 15, 2009, 01:28:55 AM
That's what I thought. I also want to see what the ordinary predator will look like in this film.
Hopefully just that... Ordinary...
I know I'm just hoping it looks like the original and not something like Scar.
Quote from: wolfie138 on Dec 11, 2009, 08:59:15 AM
really? his tusks are almost on backwards :-/ looks more like the Blade 2 vmapire wotsits than a Pred.
Not EXACTLY like this but something similar. If you think that I would like Predator with backwards tusks then you are funny ;D
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Dec 11, 2009, 08:59:15 AM
really? his tusks are almost on backwards :-/ looks more like the Blade 2 vmapire wotsits than a Pred.
If you think that I would like Predator with backwards tusks then you are funny ;D
Well you were the one saying you wouldnt mind if the BSP would look like this, so...
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 15, 2009, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Dec 11, 2009, 08:59:15 AM
really? his tusks are almost on backwards :-/ looks more like the Blade 2 vmapire wotsits than a Pred.
If you think that I would like Predator with backwards tusks then you are funny ;D
Well you were the one saying you wouldnt mind if the BSP would look like this, so...
If this is how mutated Super Predator is going to look like than I wouldn`t mind. Color of it is all right, also it`s face have very mean look. It dosen`t mean that it is flawless.
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 15, 2009, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Dec 11, 2009, 08:59:15 AM
really? his tusks are almost on backwards :-/ looks more like the Blade 2 vmapire wotsits than a Pred.
If you think that I would like Predator with backwards tusks then you are funny ;D
Well you were the one saying you wouldnt mind if the BSP would look like this, so...
If this is how mutated Super Predator is going to look like than I wouldn`t mind. Color of it is all right, also it`s face have very mean look. It dosen`t mean that it is flawless.
Personal taste.
Myself, if the BSP is going to look anything like that i get out of my seat and shit right against the screen, and people will thank me for that... that pretty much sums my opinion about it.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 15, 2009, 10:37:20 PM
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
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Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Dec 11, 2009, 08:59:15 AM
really? his tusks are almost on backwards :-/ looks more like the Blade 2 vmapire wotsits than a Pred.
If you think that I would like Predator with backwards tusks then you are funny ;D
Well you were the one saying you wouldnt mind if the BSP would look like this, so...
If this is how mutated Super Predator is going to look like than I wouldn`t mind. Color of it is all right, also it`s face have very mean look. It dosen`t mean that it is flawless.
Personal taste.
Myself, if the BSP is going to look anything like that i get out of my seat and shit right against the screen, and people will thank me for that... that pretty much sums my opinion about it.
So you like it then
So prepare for shitting the screen because that's how they`ll look like... in the best way.
f**k, it is so funny Johny cause IIRC I told you that probably this film is going to be shitty few months ago, and you strongly denied it. Why so full of anger now?
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:52:23 PM
So prepare for shitting the screen because that's how they`ll look like... in the best way.
f**k, it is so funny Johny cause IIRC I told you that probably this film is going to be shitty few months ago, and you strongly denied it. Why so full of anger now?
Who said I'm full of anger?
I simply said that i don't like the design that
you wouldn't mind. That doesn't mean they are going to look anything like that, or that the movie will be shitty, especially before we have seen a single frame of footage, or even a picture.
So your "I told you so" means jackshit at the moment.
What matters most is the mask design...
Quote from: Aran on Dec 16, 2009, 03:16:24 AM
What matters most is the mask design...
AVP's Preds had cool masks, they still looked like shit overall.
The most important thing is to get the body and face right, painting wise and proportional wise, then you can get wild on the armour and masks.
As long as it fits the Predator and is original.
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Dec 15, 2009, 10:23:28 PM
Quote from: Master on Dec 15, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Quote from: wolfie138 on Dec 11, 2009, 08:59:15 AM
really? his tusks are almost on backwards :-/ looks more like the Blade 2 vmapire wotsits than a Pred.
If you think that I would like Predator with backwards tusks then you are funny ;D
Well you were the one saying you wouldnt mind if the BSP would look like this, so...
If this is how mutated Super Predator is going to look like than I wouldn`t mind. Color of it is all right, also it`s face have very mean look. It dosen`t mean that it is flawless.
@Master! Do you really wanna BSP looks like this one? BSP should looks like something scary, frightening, not like a piece of funny monster. Yea, he's funny, not scary ;). No matter that he should be mutated. He should be mutated in horrible way. It's not comedy... :D
(Oh, or you like him, because nobody else likes. ;D)
Quote from: Doomofman on Dec 15, 2009, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: Skinner on Dec 15, 2009, 01:28:55 AM
That's what I thought. I also want to see what the ordinary predator will look like in this film.
Hopefully just that... Ordinary...
The problem is that the appearance of the ordinary Predator appears to be symbolic of this 'reboot'. I fear RR is trying to introduce a new generation of Predators here, and that he's going to make this statement by having his power-ranger Predators brutally kill Winstons Predator. If theres a sequel to this movie, we might never see an ordinary Predator again.
Quote from: jordan on Dec 16, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Dec 15, 2009, 01:31:26 AM
Quote from: Skinner on Dec 15, 2009, 01:28:55 AM
That's what I thought. I also want to see what the ordinary predator will look like in this film.
Hopefully just that... Ordinary...
The problem is that the appearance of the ordinary Predator appears to be symbolic of this 'reboot'. I fear RR is trying to introduce a new generation of Predators here, and that he's going to make this statement by having his power-ranger Predators brutally kill Winstons Predator. If theres a sequel to this movie, we might never see an ordinary Predator again.
This is precisely what fears most of us . We could not see the ordinary Predator, and we're afraid what we could get in return ... Winston's Predators are unique. This is really art. This's what I love and that's what I would like to see again. Canon it's canon. The owner of the canon is RR now. He is the supreme creator. I'm not sure that he's able to found due respect for the original. :-\
All threads in this section are full of fear. Spoken loudly or not.
Who will be RR - creator or destroyer?
Fans don't trust RR. ;)
I dont mind if the REGULAR PREDS LOOK LIKE WOLF AND CELTIC AND SCAR ALONG WITH CHOPPER.
Quote from: jordan on Dec 16, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
I fear RR is trying to introduce a new generation of Predators here, and that he's going to make this statement by having his power-ranger Predators brutally kill Winstons Predator. If theres a sequel to this movie, we might never see an ordinary Predator again.
Jordan, you have expressed my very fears and perhaps anger with those words in ways I couldn't express them.
The very symbolic element of the death of the original Predator character who Winston created is right there in the script, going as far as to suggest that the upgrade is superior than the original right in the introduction of the Predator vs Black Super Predator fight. I mean "Original vs Upgrade" ...What? Rodriguez might as well say that the original is obsolete and not cool anymore... oh wait... He has been saying that, or rather implying it.
Winston's Predator to me, is the best, and it will always be the best. You can't ever go wrong with the original. There isn't anything wrong with the original. You don't need to change the original. Why? Because it's a classic.
Unfortunately, Rodriguez thinks otherwise.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 16, 2009, 06:48:04 PM
Quote from: jordan on Dec 16, 2009, 12:31:08 PM
I fear RR is trying to introduce a new generation of Predators here, and that he's going to make this statement by having his power-ranger Predators brutally kill Winstons Predator. If theres a sequel to this movie, we might never see an ordinary Predator again.
Jordan, you have expressed my very fears and perhaps anger with those words in ways I couldn't express them.
The very symbolic element of the death of the original Predator character who Winston created is right there in the script, going as far as to suggest that the upgrade is superior than the original right in the introduction of the Predator vs Black Super Predator fight. I mean "Original vs Upgrade" ...What? Rodriguez might as well say that the original is obsolete and not cool anymore... oh wait... He has been saying that, or rather implying it.
Winston's Predator to me, is the best, and it will always be the best. You can't ever go wrong with the original. There isn't anything wrong with the original. You don't need to change the original. Why? Because it's a classic.
Unfortunately, Rodriguez thinks otherwise.
-Rakai'Thwei
This is it.
This is it.
I agree with both of you.
RR doesn't need to change the original. Why? Not only because it's a classic. It is perfection. Piece of art.
You can't correct something what is perfect.
I agree with all of those statements as well. But I think a lot of it has to do with wanting some diversity, and how since we've had all the different looking predators in the (actual sequel) Predator 2, it's just taking the next step (may be be good or bad).
I can't judge the BSP since I haven't seen them yet, but I think RR is trying to implement different looking predators is all, to show how each is unique in its own way. I personally, just want regular looking predators like all of you but that's kinda what I feel like is part of the reason too.
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Dec 16, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
I agree with all of those statements as well. But I think a lot of it has to do with wanting some diversity, and how since we've had all the different looking predators in the (actual sequel) Predator 2, it's just taking the next step (may be be good or bad).
I can't judge the BSP since I haven't seen them yet, but I think RR is trying to implement different looking predators is all to show how each is unique in its own way I personally, just want regular looking predators like all of you but that's kinda what I feel like is part of the reason too.
Everyone seems to focus on the exterior of the Predator, the appearances rather than the characterization of the creature. A Predator looking like the original is all fine and dandy, thats great but what about the character itself? What about the elements that make the Predator the Predator?
Sure, a great looking Predator is awesome but what about the creature hunting for the thrill of the hunt? You know, the standards which the Thomas Brothers had set?
Predators hunted for the thrill, to test their medal against challenging, dangerous and worthy prey. The more dangerous the prey hunted, the better the hunter and deadlier, right? Because to me, thats what makes the Predator who he is. A hunter. A warrior who followed a bizarre conduct of the hunt.
Thats the Predator, right? You know, the creature we all know and love, and hold in such in high regaurd?
I don't see why these BSPs need to hunt their prey just to disect them to see what makes them tick, and to assimilate their DNA into their bodies to mutate even more. Is that the Predator we all know? I don't think so.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 16, 2009, 09:13:11 PM
Everyone seems to focus on the exterior of the Predator, the appearances rather than the characterization of the creature. A Predator looking like the original is all fine and dandy, thats great but what about the character itself? What about the elements that make the Predator the Predator?
I think the characterization is definitely almost just as important. I was very impressed with Ian Whytes performance in AVP-R, because he really seemed to become familiar with the movements and the suit so he did a good job. It's too bad he won't be in the suit for this film.
Hopefully Derek Mears knows what he needs to do to make it work...
QuoteI don't see why these BSPs need to hunt their prey just to disect them to see what makes them tick, and to assimilate their DNA into their bodies to mutate even more. Is that the Predator we all know? I don't think so.
-Rakai'Thwei
Well that kinda goes back to what I was saying about how they may want to create some diversity with the predators and make them look a little different and act different. RR definitely likes to go over the top with some elements in his films, and it's possible that may happen with Predators, since there is dogs and falcons or whatever.
It is still odd that they seem to be changing a lot of aspects of the predator, but as long as they can still portray the predators well and believable than I still think this may be a good movie.
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Dec 16, 2009, 09:06:08 PM
I agree with all of those statements as well. But I think a lot of it has to do with wanting some diversity, and how since we've had all the different looking predators in the (actual sequel) Predator 2, it's just taking the next step (may be be good or bad).
I can't judge the BSP since I haven't seen them yet, but I think RR is trying to implement different looking predators is all, to show how each is unique in its own way. I personally, just want regular looking predators like all of you but that's kinda what I feel like is part of the reason too.
Yea. But if he tries to change this appearance so much, he shouldn't make movie named "Predators". Let he does his own movie with his own monsters. There is no need to name it Predators. And there is no need to destroy the portrait of our monsters. Winston's holiness.
Yes, you right. We should wait. We should see the effect of his changes. We shouldn't judge before we could see anything. But hope is very fragile. All of us were waiting so long. Time is hot. Emotions are growing so high. So...
This waiting is killing me. :-\
Rakai is right, like always.RR loses all meaning of Predators. All this philosophy is disappear. And there is no thrill of hunt. There is only slaughterhouse. :-\
Now here is another question...
These Black Super Predators, they're supposed to be either Elite Warriors or a renegade clan which has gone horribly awry with the mutations. From what I've read in the script and from what I have been hearing, they seem to be a little bit of both.
So, if they are Elite Mutant Warriors/Renegades... where does this put all the normal Veteran warriors, Elders, and Ancients, who are supposed to be so insanely skilled? Does this make them obsolete or what?
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: keylight-di on Dec 16, 2009, 09:28:47 PM
Yea. But if he tries to change this appearance so much, he shouldn't make movie named "Predators". Let he does his own movie with his own monsters. There is no need to name it Predators. And there is no need to destroy the portrait of our monsters. Winston's holiness.
Yes, you right. We should wait. We should see the effect of his changes. We shouldn't judge before we could see anything. But hope is very fragile. All of us were waiting so long. Time is hot. Emotions are growing so high. So...
This waiting is killing me. :-\
Yeah I see what your saying. I have faith that Nimrod will stay very true to the original design and character of the predators because he is a talented director and has a unique style.
QuoteRakai is right, like always.
RR loses all meaning of Predators. All this philosophy is disappear. And there is no thrill of hunt. There is only slaughterhouse. :-\
With RR there will definitely be some brutal killings and gore. I think that the film will have a good use of suspenseful movements, and so hopefully this film will stay true to the original like they have said so we can see that element of there being a hunt.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 16, 2009, 09:34:31 PM
Now here is another question...
These Black Super Predators, they're supposed to be either Elite Warriors or a renegade clan which has gone horribly awry with the mutations. From what I've read in the script and from what I have been hearing, they seem to be a little bit of both.
So, if they are Elite Mutant Warriors/Renegades... where does this put all the normal Veteran warriors, Elders, and Ancients, who are supposed to be so insanely skilled? Does this make them obsolete or what?
-Rakai'Thwei
I haven't read the script yet, so I don't know all the details about them...If it was my guess, I'd say that hopefully as long as they can explain why these predators are mutated/renegades or whatever. Then it will put these BSP's in a different category aside from elders and such. It's hard to say, because with the fact that there are many different clans and groups of predators, it could just be an outside clan that is simply different which could make the predator characters seem more and more mysterious and such. But if they do a poor job of explaining background on them (at least some) then the film won't be the TRUE SEQUEL, that RR proclaims it to be.
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Dec 16, 2009, 09:27:48 PM
I think the characterization is definitely almost just as important. I was very impressed with Ian Whytes performance in AVP-R, because he really seemed to become familiar with the movements and the suit so he did a good job. It's too bad he won't be in the suit for this film.
Hopefully Derek Mears knows what he needs to do to make it work...
It's more than just the movements of the man in the suit. It's much, much, much more deeper than that.
Having the appearance is a good thing, having the movements down is good but as I said it's much more deeper than either of those two. Something which Predator 2 has set as a standard with the Ghost Predator character aka Pussyface which helped expand Predators as we know them and set that bar.
Predators needing to upgrade themselves genetically... it's been beaten like a dead horse but I'll say it, is redundant. Fans have said that it is cheating in the hunt, and I agree.
These Predators don't hunt for the thrill, nor do they handicap themselves to give the hunt more sport or challenge which both Diablo Predator (Anytime) or Ghost Predator (Pussyface) did in Predator 1 and 2.
It's this element which is... I think crucial and makes the Predator, the Predator...
I just don't see this element in these BSPs.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 16, 2009, 09:34:31 PM
Now here is another question...
These Black Super Predators, they're supposed to be either Elite Warriors or a renegade clan which has gone horribly awry with the mutations. From what I've read in the script and from what I have been hearing, they seem to be a little bit of both.
So, if they are Elite Mutant Warriors/Renegades... where does this put all the normal Veteran warriors, Elders, and Ancients, who are supposed to be so insanely skilled? Does this make them obsolete or what?
-Rakai'Thwei
What I understood from script:
1# BSP are mutated, not elite. Like Bad Blood. So they are outside the law, outcasts.
If so - they can fight against everything. No rules, no honor, nothing...
2# But if they are so powerful - why they make them preys weaker?
Transferring prey to their own territory, they have all the advantages. Where is the challenge? It makes no sens for me...
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Dec 16, 2009, 09:40:43 PM
With RR there will definitely be some brutal killings and gore. I think that the film will have a good use of suspenseful movements, and so hopefully this film will stay true to the original like they have said so we can see that element of there being a hunt.
This movies need to be gore, bloody, etc. But it should make sens. No just slaughterhouse. :-\
Rules. Sens. This is what I need....
Yeah, I definitely felt Predator 2 created the deeper meaning and story behind predators which made them a stronger icon to everyone, even after we were given the first Predator, which was the whole basis of the character.
I don't see why they need to have the BSP's exactly, but I guess it's to be assumed that all predators arn't neccesarily honorable like most others. Does it make it the better choice? Not sure yet, but like I said if they at least get a lot of characteristics of the predator right and give us an entertaining film. I can't complain too much.
I'm still very excited to see the movie when it comes out. I have hopes it'll be a good film.
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Dec 16, 2009, 09:58:31 PM
Yeah, I definitely felt Predator 2 created the deeper meaning and story behind predators which made them a stronger icon to everyone, even after we were given the first Predator, which was the whole basis of the character.
I don't see why they need to have the BSP's exactly, but I guess it's to be assumed that all predators arn't neccesarily honorable like most others. Does it make it the better choice? Not sure yet, but like I said if they at least get a lot of characteristics of the predator right and give us an entertaining film. I can't complain too much.
I'm still very excited to see the movie when it comes out. I have hopes it'll be a good film.
But why they need to be more scary? I don't think that "scary" it's key-word. They should be mysterious,cruel, a little misunderstood, but scary? Yes, only in limits. It's not so important. Because we could make him just another bloody monster, which many in the movies, if we only need him to be "scary". And - it seems - it's RR idea... :-\
Potency of P2 was to create a myth. Some answers to the questions we asking since P1.
And now RR is killing this myth. And it hurts.
I hope, just like you, that everything will end well. That all these fears are unfounded. We'll see this in the cinema.
Hope dies last.But nightmares are still alive. ;)
QuoteWinston's Predator to me, is the best, and it will always be the best. You can't ever go wrong with the original. There isn't anything wrong with the original. You don't need to change the original. Why? Because it's a classic.
Unfortunately, Rodriguez thinks otherwise.
Well, who said there was something wrong with the original ? the original is the reason why this movie is being made in the first place. Didn't RR say the original is a masterpiece? Besides, no one can change the original, because it's done and out there, so I don't really see your point. He just doesn't want to copy what has been made, and you know, just want to do a new movie.
I don't care about this whole geek debate around what should or should not be a predator, people here are excessively possessive about the character anyway, but you are making assumptions about the intentions of RR and the filmmakers that are truly unfair. That, just because an ordinary/original predator gets killed and that makes you angry. Are you a child or something ?
Quote
..What? Rodriguez might as well say that the original is obsolete and not cool anymore... oh wait... He has been saying that, or rather implying it.
Again, childish behavior because you get your favorite toy getting killed, so you feel betrayed. And it's just that, a character getting killed because it is diminished, wounded and facing its equal and enhanced mate in perfect shape. It logically loses in a direct intense fight, the one with favorable circumstances win, end of story. No big deal.
The challenge... I don't know where did you get that? If the predator liked challenge so much, why would it make itself invisible to begin with ? A predator doesn't hunt for challenge, it just loves to feel a total control on its prey, watching it trying to desesperately escape from its inevitable fate. And when things are getting out of hand like in the final battle with Dutch in the original, it gets pretty pissed off and frustrated. It hates being in a challenging situation. A predator is a primitive beast basically seeking the same feeling Edwin experiments when he's pulling the wings off that butterfly, or when a kid takes pleasure at chasing a bug. At least that's what I get from P1. In fact, Edwin is the perfect human enbodiment of the predator ( he has a truly great exchange with Isabelle about that ), hence why he wants to stay there at the end, and that's an interesting idea. Yeah, it's not the same direction taken by P2, but since I'm not a fan of P2, that's fine with me. I'd even say the predators in this, even less subtle in their methods and behaviors, are much closer to the pred portrayed by Mctiernan than the preds in P2.
Quote from: Pinkman on Dec 16, 2009, 11:23:51 PM
Well, who said there was something wrong with the original ? the original is the reason why this movie is being made in the first place.
Lets not go that far. This movie is being made because Predator = $$$. You'd (Almost) think some of the stuff in this was written with merchandise in mind. Predator dogs etc.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 16, 2009, 09:50:03 PM
Quote from: PatrinAVP11 on Dec 16, 2009, 09:27:48 PM
I think the characterization is definitely almost just as important. I was very impressed with Ian Whytes performance in AVP-R, because he really seemed to become familiar with the movements and the suit so he did a good job. It's too bad he won't be in the suit for this film.
Hopefully Derek Mears knows what he needs to do to make it work...
It's more than just the movements of the man in the suit. It's much, much, much more deeper than that.
Having the appearance is a good thing, having the movements down is good but as I said it's much more deeper than either of those two. Something which Predator 2 has set as a standard with the Ghost Predator character aka Pussyface which helped expand Predators as we know them and set that bar.
Predators needing to upgrade themselves genetically... it's been beaten like a dead horse but I'll say it, is redundant. Fans have said that it is cheating in the hunt, and I agree.
These Predators don't hunt for the thrill, nor do they handicap themselves to give the hunt more sport or challenge which both Diablo Predator (Anytime) or Ghost Predator (Pussyface) did in Predator 1 and 2.
It's this element which is... I think crucial and makes the Predator, the Predator...
I just don't see this element in these BSPs.
-Rakai'Thwei
You are missing a point a bit. Those aren`t Hunter Predators but Poacher Predators as they don`t fallow earlier stated rules. As it was stated on fan poster "their world, their rules" - and it`s really best explanation.
About them fitting in existing hierarchy, they are from entirely different clan. Maybe only those three.
Quote from: Master on Dec 17, 2009, 05:15:52 PM
You are missing a point a bit. Those aren`t Hunter Predators but Poacher Predators as they don`t fallow earlier stated rules. As it was stated on fan poster "their world, their rules" - and it`s really best explanation.
About them fitting in existing hierarchy, they are from entirely different clan. Maybe only those three.
Yeah. That is really the only explanation, aside the fact of them being mutated and what not if that is the case? cuz idk why that would have to be important necessarily...but as long as they explain that.
Quote from: keylight-di on Dec 16, 2009, 10:48:27 PM
They should be mysterious,cruel, a little misunderstood, but scary?
I think that they are trying to do that by incorporating these BSP's, because I feel like it is the approach they are taking to make the predator characters seem more unknown and unnatural, so the audience doesn't see the EXACT same thing they have before, because then there isn't quite as much excitement and curiosity that comes with the predators. As long as these predators are different in their own way, but at the same time don't alter the classic appearance of the predators TOO MUCH, than it could very well make the predators a great addition to the variety of clans/predators we haven't seen before.
Quote from: Master on Dec 17, 2009, 05:15:52 PM
You are missing a point a bit. Those aren`t Hunter Predators but Poacher Predators as they don`t fallow earlier stated rules. As it was stated on fan poster "their world, their rules" - and it`s really best explanation.
About them fitting in existing hierarchy, they are from entirely different clan. Maybe only those three.
Now that part I am willing to accept. I just don't like the idea of the entire Predator race hunting their prey just to assimilate DNA into their bodies to mutate themselves into abominations. Now there is nothing in the script, as far as I recall, that suggest that they are Bad Bloods, or if this is just one single, and perhaps dying, clan.
Now.... as MysticNinja said, wherever he is, the script seems to imply that there is something of a civil war between the Black Super Predators and the normal Predators with the scenes of Super Predator and normal Predator skeletons, and the last normal Predator surviving his torture but then dying in his fight for retribution.
So... any theories as to if why normal Predators and Super Predators are fighting one another? I'd like to hear them.
Any theories as to how this mutant poaching clan could affect established Predator culture or what?
-Rakai'Thwei
I'd say there might be room for an explanation in the novelisation, there isn't really a way of explaining any of those points through visualisation or character dialog. I get the feeling this movie just wants to pace along once it gets going.
That's a good thing though, The original did the same and was all the better for it.
Black super predator VS. Normal Predator, this I'd love to see:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.jasondunbar.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F07%2Fpredator3.jpg&hash=5206c9940234f6537394d1e3aeeaf00559f72dfb)
Where's that pic from? Looks awesome
Some new comic I believe.
Quote from: Moody on Dec 19, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
Black super predator VS. Normal Predator, this I'd love to see:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.jasondunbar.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F07%2Fpredator3.jpg&hash=5206c9940234f6537394d1e3aeeaf00559f72dfb)
Here you go:
Predator #3, Publication date: october 28, 2009, DH.
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/16-110/Predator-3
Beautiful... There are many wonderful ideas... I love it. :)
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 19, 2009, 05:06:44 AM
Now that part I am willing to accept. I just don't like the idea of the entire Predator race hunting their prey just to assimilate DNA into their bodies to mutate themselves into abominations. Now there is nothing in the script, as far as I recall, that suggest that they are Bad Bloods, or if this is just one single, and perhaps dying, clan.
Now.... as MysticNinja said, wherever he is, the script seems to imply that there is something of a civil war between the Black Super Predators and the normal Predators with the scenes of Super Predator and normal Predator skeletons, and the last normal Predator surviving his torture but then dying in his fight for retribution.
So... any theories as to if why normal Predators and Super Predators are fighting one another? I'd like to hear them.
Any theories as to how this mutant poaching clan could affect established Predator culture or what?
-Rakai'Thwei
Ideas? That mean speculations? Out of the canon? OK. ;D
If BSP clan and "normal" clan are fighting there has to be seriously reason. IMO it's not about domination, but about constancy and faithfulness for rules. We have to presume, that "normal" clan it's clan which keeps rules of honour, including rules of equal fight with enemy/ equal hunting for prey. So they are opposed to mutations, kidnapping of preys, etc. etc. Everything what we can see in BSP clan. This is cardinal reason of this war. Principles. "Normal" clan keeps their rules as constant philosophy tracing their way by life. BSP clan tries to find shorter way. It has to be cause of war. Like medieval crusade, but on different platform.
Does it make sense? All my concept? For me - yes, it does. For everyone, who hates any idea of honourable hunters - it doesn't ;). It's only speculations, so don't go mad. ;)
And - yea, there are no allusions about Bad Blood in script. There are no allusions about anything relating Preds, mutating or not. Everything is in minds and imagination of fans. Like always. ;)
So - what do you think about it?
Hopefully if they do a Black Predator, it will be a Samual L Jackson kind of Predator. Imagine Jackson delivering the "ugly motherf**ker" line.
Quote from: mrlee on Dec 19, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
Hopefully if they do a Black Predator, it will be a Samual L Jackson kind of Predator. Imagine Jackson delivering the "ugly motherf**ker" line.
Where from such a hypothesis?
Samuel L. Jackson as mutated outcast? I don't think so. BTW we can suppose how he looks like. Not like S.L. Jackson. Absolutely. ;D
@Keylight-di
Although its just speculation I believe the script does subtly hint at a division between BSP and normal Preds - I have already mentioned the scenes that hint at this several times.
As to the reasons, I'm not sure. Its possible that some Predators, a minority, want to geneticaly enhance themselves by incorporating the genes of "worthy" prey so that they become stronger.They use the planet, which Predators(2010) is set, as a "laboratory" to test prey and single out the best and strongest and then using the strongest prey DNA to enhance themselves. May be they do it to hunt bigger badder Prey that we have not heard off or may be even to hunt other Predators!?
Many of critised the BSP for not behaving like true Predators by kidnapping prey, not hunting on preys turf, using Predator birds and dogs to weaken prey ect but I believe that they make it as hard as possible since they want the genetic material of the toughest and best prey! Any Prey that can survive the planet, the dogs and the BSP is one tough sob and therefore they have genes which the Predator wants!
I don't believe the Alien planet in Predators is a hunting ground, I believe its a massive glorified "mouse maze" - like the one scientist use to test mice in laboratories.
This belief in genetic enhancement and playing with nature has caused conflict with the normal Predators, who prefer to hunt with honour and as nature intended. Resulting in a massive conflict.
This is just my crazy theory. All speculation but you asked...
@Mystic!
This is all my theory! ;D I wrote about it before, even yesterday. So I can't disagree... ;D I think this same, you develop it in a logical manner.
Spoilers possible! Lot of speculations included! ;) ;)
Spoiler
Them trophies it's genetic material that they use. Hunting could be some kind of test for prey. If prey is worthy - they take its DNA. If it's not worthy - they only threw it away... "Test mice in laboratories."? Yae, good idea.
But what about war between Classical Preds and BSP? I've got my speculation (like always), I'm not sure that you can agree, but I try:
1# We have to presume, that "normal" clan it's clan which keeps rules of honour, including rules of equal fight with enemy/ equal hunting for prey. This speculations from P2 (this famous last scene on the ship). So they are opposed to mutations, kidnapping of preys, etc. etc. Everything what we can see in BSP clan. This is cardinal reason of this war. Principles. "Normal" clan keeps their rules as constant philosophy tracing their way by life. BSP clan tries to find shorter way. It has to be cause of war. Like medieval crusade, but on different platform.
So I believe, that them evolution - cultural and biological - goes two ways:
# The first - allegiance to the principles, the subordination of nature, the primacy of the physical skills to improve. Martial art. It's a classic Pred's way, like P2 Preds.
# The second - everything is allowed, no rules to be observed, the most important is to be the best and most effective, regardless of price. This is BSP's way.
So we have seriously reason for war between clans and we have the reasons of changes.
You know what annoy me most in this whole matter?
That we are forced to such speculation, because it was not clear from the script. And any speculation is not possible without knowing the script. So - what the normal viewer will understand if it is not ready for such an endeavor, and that simply does not have such knowledge as we have?
Too much speculations needed to acceptation. ;)
And I still prefer my normal Preds. And I still want them to win. ;D
I'm not sure if there is literally a war between them but certainly a rivalry due a difference in belief.-
Survival of the fittest dictated by nature (normal Preds) Vs Survival of the fittest dictated by Science (black super Pred)
Obviously all just speculation. For all we know, RR just randomly wanted to have Predators who like gene splicing!
It is not educational, unpedagogical and is not trendy that science won with nature... ;) Promoted in the modern world is rather a return to nature and a return to tradition. To the roots.
Spoiler
That's one reason more why the BSP should lose. ;)
Spoiler
Rivalry, duel or war - we don't know... But it's very seriously, I no doubt.
I bet on the war because the reasons are very serious. Basis of them philosophy.
Humans make wars with less reasons.
I like the idea of genetically modified Predators. Something new and fresh and can not wait to see them on screen.
I know that you like this idea.
I don't.
Perfect Winston's Preds don't need improvement. Not in phisical meaning. Their appearance perfectly fits to them behaviour. OK. They changed behaviour ;). But appearance should stay this same...
Am I borring? Probably..
I just love this old m*f*ers... :-\
No your not boring, you like many other fans like the original Predators and would like to see them again in a good movie!
I'm the same and I would love to see the old Predators again in a good movie. However, this is not the case this time so I'm dealing with it and willing to give the BSP a chance since it does not sound bad to me.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 23, 2009, 04:55:28 PM
No your not boring, you like many other fans like the original Predators and would like to see them again in a good movie!
I'm the same and I would love to see the old Predators again in a good movie. However, this is not the case this time so I'm dealing with it and willing to give the BSP a chance since it does not sound bad to me.
Yea.. Good fan,
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who wants to see my beloved Preds hanging on the cross, tortured ...well...
Well, I'm so happy that I don't have such fans like you. (I hope I don't have ... ;D ;D)
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(just kidding ;D ;D)
your too fanatical! Lol
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 23, 2009, 05:43:58 PM
your too fanatical! Lol
I'm just a fan-girl...
OK. Fanatical fan-girl...
OK. again. Hardcore fanatical fan-girl... ;D ;)
The only way I will ever accept the BSPs are if the following is done..
1) Fox, Antal or Rodriguez say that it's just ONE clan doing this. Though this is highly unlikely that they will say this.
2) Fox, Antal or Rodriguez say that this is a clan of Bad Bloods, even though there are a few scenes to imply this, some confirmation would do some good. Again, highly unlikely.
3) An explaination is given as to why there are BSPs at war with normal Predators. Something of a backstory, something to give a good reason as to why they are doing this rather than just the "Each time one of their kind loses, they upgrade themselves" bull crap. Is it just one clan doing this, is there something of a war between tradition and progress, what? Tell us why BSPs are killing normal Predators. Again, highly unlikely.
So far, I like Keylight's and MysticNinja's explainations. Personally, I detest the idea of BSPs, and would've prefered normal bad bloods than these abominations (I use the term to describe what they are implied to be in the script, genetic abominations). Had Rodriguez and Antal go with the Bad Blood angle, I'd probably be for this upcoming film.
Thank you for sharing your theories and speculations, Mystic and Keylight.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 23, 2009, 06:16:12 PM
The only way I will ever accept the BSPs are if the following is done..
1) Fox, Antal or Rodriguez say that it's just ONE clan doing this. Though this is highly unlikely that they will say this.
2) Fox, Antal or Rodriguez say that this is a clan of Bad Bloods, even though there are a few scenes to imply this, some confirmation would do some good. Again, highly unlikely.
3) An explaination is given as to why there are BSPs at war with normal Predators. Something of a backstory, something to give a good reason as to why they are doing this rather than just the "Each time one of their kind loses, they upgrade themselves" bull crap. Is it just one clan doing this, is there something of a war between tradition and progress, what? Tell us why BSPs are killing normal Predators. Again, highly unlikely.
So far, I like Keylight's and MysticNinja's explainations. Personally, I detest the idea of BSPs, and would've prefered normal bad bloods than these abominations (I use the term to describe what they are implied to be in the script, genetic abominations). Had Rodriguez and Antal go with the Bad Blood angle, I'd probably be for this upcoming film.
Thank you for sharing your theories and speculations, Mystic and Keylight.
-Rakai'Thwei
This is it!
I posted about it before. There are no information about why BSP is why he is, who he is etc. All this speculations are fan-made. We have knowledge and we like speculations. But we have no explanation. Non. Only our theories. :-\
And - for me personaly - conception of Bad Blood fighting against classic Preds it's enough. Appearance of BSP it's just too much. Unnessesary and simply stupid. I have explanation (my-made), but why I have to try explain this concept.
Scrinplay should tell us clear story, no needs making theories...
Keep It Simple, Stupid, yea?
So - KISS, for RR and NA. ;)
@Thanks Rakai'. I feel very appreciated and honored. I'm happy that you like all this theory. :)
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Dec 23, 2009, 06:16:12 PM
The only way I will ever accept the BSPs are if the following is done..
1) Fox, Antal or Rodriguez say that it's just ONE clan doing this. Though this is highly unlikely that they will say this.
2) Fox, Antal or Rodriguez say that this is a clan of Bad Bloods, even though there are a few scenes to imply this, some confirmation would do some good. Again, highly unlikely.
3) An explaination is given as to why there are BSPs at war with normal Predators. Something of a backstory, something to give a good reason as to why they are doing this rather than just the "Each time one of their kind loses, they upgrade themselves" bull crap. Is it just one clan doing this, is there something of a war between tradition and progress, what? Tell us why BSPs are killing normal Predators. Again, highly unlikely.
So far, I like Keylight's and MysticNinja's explainations. Personally, I detest the idea of BSPs, and would've prefered normal bad bloods than these abominations (I use the term to describe what they are implied to be in the script, genetic abominations). Had Rodriguez and Antal go with the Bad Blood angle, I'd probably be for this upcoming film.
Thank you for sharing your theories and speculations, Mystic and Keylight.
-Rakai'Thwei
Not going to happen. You're either going to sit there and like it, or you're going to "pretend it doesn't exist".
You are so lame for wanting explanations dude.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 23, 2009, 06:50:39 PM
Not going to happen. You're either going to sit there and like it, or you're going to "pretend it doesn't exist".
You are so lame for wanting explanations dude.
@Pvt. Hicks!Not true.
Anderson gives explanations, right? Oh, AvP it's not really movie? (*irony*)
OK., you can not like our ideas, but stop attacking people.
You aren't fan, so you don't have voting rights.
Stop judge people, you're lame with all your hatred.
(making me really angry)
Why would you want an explanation though? That is so ew.
Anderson gave explanations, yeah...so? The proof is in the pudding.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Dec 23, 2009, 07:06:47 PM
Why would you want an explanation though? That is so ew.
Anderson gave explanations, yeah...so? The proof is in the pudding.
So RR should do this same. It's so simple, can't you understand?
If he change basis of all Preds EU, there have to be important reasons. And fans like us need to know about this reasons.
Don't change the world without reasons.
Clear?
But you can't understand the basis, so... what I expect...? :-\
(rhetorical)
lol so childish.
Don't you want some mystery, don't you want them to let things for the audience to interpret and make our imagination work? I think Hollywood tried too much to explain recently and almost killed their own creation. And yeah, external explanations wouldn't change anything to the movie.
Not exactly. It's not the first movie about Preds and humans. Mystery? Right. But every story has to have introduction, development and completion. Characters take up somewhere ... About humans characters we know a lot- who they are, what they did before, how they act ... And we are human beings too, we have similar experiences.
And suddenly, after a few parts (P1, P2, AvP, AvP: R), there is something - from nowhere. No basis, no explanation. Nothing.
Lack of continuity, lack of logic.
Director may not also refer to any basis, then change it beyond recognition and do it without any explanation.
Maybe I'll try different way....
We have computer game "Concret jungle". We have introduction, so we can understand what's going on. We had played games before. So why we need introduction?
Because it makes sense. It takes basis for all game.
I can't explain it more clear. :-\
Childish? I don't think so...
BTW Even Star Wars have introduction. Explanation. Haven't?
To begin with, Predators and Star wars aren't the same kind of movies. One is a whole saga, a space opera with context and the other, predator, is a genre picture in which the focus remains the hunt. And even in Star wars, they kept the explanations fairly minimal, we didn't know a lot about Darth Vader and Luke's childhood, and that was exciting. When they tried to tell the mythos behind the story in the new trilogy, they uterlly failed, that was so disappointing. Introduction doesn't mean explanation, check your vocabulary. I think
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the predator hanging on that pole and their discussion with Noland
are enough of an introduction to this new situation for you to imagine further, it gives you what you need to know about what's going on, these are small hints for us to guess. And I don't think the movie really changes the basis that much, except for introducing new individuals in the species and adding a possible conflict in it. A different but still a jungle, a man in a suit, etc...
Every time hollywood tried to explain the origins of a myth, they gave us the bad matrix sequels, a shitty T4, a disappointing SW trilogy. I don't really want that.
Bad Bloods, not bad bloods, is that really important seriously?
@Pinkman!
I checked my vocabulary, my dictionary, everything I have ;)... And I still think, that "introduction" it's good word. Not the best, but good enough.
Because introduction introduces viewer into an action of movie. It makes everything clear. Viewer has basis - what happens and why.
RR makes a revolution in the Preds world . He changes all the values. He takes what he wants, he rejects what he does not like. Ordinary viewers (no fan) has no reason to draw any conclusions. Ordinary viewer does not know the canon. Ordinary viewer does not know about Bad Blood. RR is doing another, next movie. The basis already is. It must not be underestimated, disdained. This means disrespect for us -the fans. Fans are waiting for this movie the most. And once again (see AvP: R) they are ignored as all the rules.
I do not insist on the introduction, as in Star Wars. But some kind of explanation for this mess must be. Anderson did it in his comments and interviews. Maybe RR could make the same?
BTW don't talk to me like to child, please. I'm not a child. I'm adult enough. Only my language skills are incapable and awkward. ;)
@Keylight-di
I can understand why you would want an explanation to the BSP behaviour and rivalry with the classic Predators. However, this is the BSP first appearance and it would be difficult to cram in all that information without comprimising the pace of the story.
Also, in the original Predator movie, no explanation was really given about why the Predator was doing what it was doing. All we got was the basics such as "hunting for trophies" and "appearing in hot weather". All the other stuff about clans, honour, ect came in later movies and books.
If RR started to go into heavy detail about why the BSP genetically enhances it self and why it fights other Predators it would ruin the pace of the film and would take away developing the human characters. Also, I believe that we are intentionally left in the dark so that we know how Royce and co are feeling - they have been kidnapped, dumped on an alien planet and being hunted down by geneticaly modified alien monsters! The only explanation that they get about the monsters is from Noland and his in the same boat as them so he could not know that much having have to hide 99% of the time. So where exactly in the story can RR give an explanation about the history of the BSP without it looking unrealistic and without it comprimising the story and pace?
You don't need to explain the BSP at all. If anything, you wanna avoid any such information to add to the mystique and danger of an unknown creature...
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Actually, I think the little bit of background Noland give is too much... IMO it would be better if he just mentioned that there's various types/clans/races and they don't get on
I agree.
Keep them mysterious, twisted and evil sob!
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 24, 2009, 12:00:22 AM
I agree.
Keep them mysterious, twisted and evil sob!
Hell, as soon as you go explaining them you piss people off... Let people use their imagination...
Now, having said that... the fact the BSP is RR's attempt to stamp his name onto the franchise he may just explain them so no one can change his idea of what they are...
The explanations quite clear. RR has decided to make the bad guys stand out - End of. The script probably would not work with the "Bad Blood" idea with the oringinal designs unless you were using some lame colour coded armour or masks.
That's the reason he is making the BSP and the normal predator different. I seriously hate explanations.
Quote from: highlandpred on Dec 24, 2009, 01:57:16 AM
The explanations quite clear. RR has decided to make the bad guys stand out - End of. The script probably would not work with the "Bad Blood" idea with the oringinal designs unless you were using some lame colour coded armour or masks.
That's the reason he is making the BSP and the normal predator different. I seriously hate explanations.
I guess some people just don't like the idea of 'RAWR SCARY MONSTER'.... It really might not end up that bad... looks wise... And the script doesn't give much explanation... and with the removal of 1 line of dialogue could put the whole issue to rest...
What happens if the BSP ends up being awesome?
I guess if pred3 is a hit ;D ...maybe then a deeper insight on the bsp (pred4) wouldn't be a"BAD IDEA"(pun intended)
I hate it when characers just show up and explain everything, just puts me off. They did Nolan's scene rather well though. Of course, there are exceptions.
Guys. You misunderstand me. I don't expect some kind of storyteller, narrator behind the frame, talking about what is happening. No... NO!
I would like to RR and AN responded to this mess somehow. For example, as Anderson did. Not obsessive indoctrination. But after making of such revolutionary changes, some kind of explanation.
Not in movie, it could be only in interviews, but somehow.
I am especially interested in, why.
Why RR did what he did and why BSP does what he does. It's not too much, I guess.. ;)
Its early days. I'm sure once the release date is close we will see many interviews with RR, Antal and brody and they might give some explanation as to why the created the BSP. If not then may be on the DVD commentary.
Either way I hope they don't explain too much. I like to make my own interpretations and then debate with other people with different ideas!
From the script, I have got the following:
(1) BSP are a seperate clan of Predators who for some reason value the genetic material of their prey more then their skulls.
(2) the BSP want to be bigger and stronger warriors and they do this by gene splicing the genes of the strongest prey into their genome. They clearly have been doing this for a long time hence explaining their different and "mutated" appearance.
(3) the planet that movie is set is actually a giant lab/mouse maze - which the BSP use to cherry pick the strongest and toughest prey.
The prey are kidnapped and dumped on the planet and put through hell to test their resolve and strength - not only do they have to survive the BSP, they have the enviroment, the dogs and other hostile prey to contend with. Any prey that can survive all that and still manage to kill a BSP is bad ass in their eyes and they want his genetic material in their so that they can get his strengths!
(4) their behaviour mentioned in points 1-3 has pissed off the more traditional Predators - who are a bit more honourable and believe that nature should determine who is the strongest not science.
The rivalry has been going on for a very long time e.g. Ancient skeletons
I believe that Predators(2010) is just a small piece in a bigger story. I know the alternative ending is a bit pants and random but may be it hints at something more epic. Clearly there is a division in the Predator species.
@Mystic! Could you use "the spoilers" in your post, please??We don't wanna troubles.... ;) ;)
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spoilers... ;D
It's nothing do do with science, or honour, The original preds are quite happy to sit in a tree - invisible- with a high tech plasma canon - blasting foe's to bits.
When you get a creature as fierce and as violent as the predator, "in house" fighting can only be expected. Survival of the fittest. The BSP are stronger, therefore survive.
@highlandpred
I'm not a fan of the honourable Predator idea started by the Elder in P2 but many have accepted it as canon.
Regardless, I like the BSP cos they are evil and even beating one means that your still dead because now they want your DNA!!
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 24, 2009, 11:18:01 AM
@highlandpred
I'm not a fan of the honourable Predator idea started by the Elder in P2 but many have accepted it as canon.
Regardless, I like the BSP cos they are evil and even beating one means that your still dead because now they want your DNA!!
So you should be happy, than RR distances himself from P2.
Rest of us, prefering another vision of Preds are sad.
Nobody will satisfy all. That's impossible. ;)
But he could even try ... :-\
(They wouldn't want my DNA. That I am sure ... My DNA it's s**t ... I'm safe ... ;D)
Sorry guys but I got one question. I have not read the script so I know nothing about this movie.
But , Is this movie all about the BSP ? Do we get to see the normal Predator ( Since its called Predators ) ?
Quote from: Lionhart on Dec 25, 2009, 11:27:03 AM
Sorry guys but I got one question. I have not read the script so I know nothing about this movie.
But , Is this movie all about the BSP ? Do we get to see the normal Predator ( Since its called Predators ) ?
Yes.
ok , thanks
The BSP is a Predator - only difference is that its bigger, stronger and wears black armour.
Of course it has black blood.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 25, 2009, 12:39:45 PM
The BSP is a Predator - only difference is that its bigger, stronger and wears black armour.
Of course it has black blood.
I see.
But we dont have a picture of how the BSP will look like ? Or , Who will play him ? If IaN Whyte plays him than im all happy with that , But I heard that Derek Myers might be the one ?
As long as he looks like a predator and not some robocop mix with a terminator than im all happy with that.
Here is a pic of how a BSP should look like IMO , ( Minus the red eyes or maybe thats blood or something ) http://www.cinemaspy.com/img/user/SUPERPREDATOR_650_245477.jpg
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 25, 2009, 12:39:45 PM
The BSP is a Predator - only difference is that its bigger, stronger and wears black armour.
Of course it has black blood.
and looks nothing like a proper Predator, if the description is to be believed.
If Predators are a race of individuals (like humans) then they can vary in look and behaviour!
The BSP is an alien that resembles a Predator and enjoys to hunt humans like a Predator in a movie called Predators - so its a Predator!
Of course your more then entitled to tell your self that its not a Predator but I won't.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 25, 2009, 07:04:19 PM
If Predators are a race of individuals (like humans) then they can vary in look and behaviour!
The BSP is an alien that resembles a Predator and enjoys to hunt humans like a Predator in a movie called Predators - so its a Predator!
Of course your more then entitled to tell your self that its not a Predator but I won't.
that would make it a "predator", not a "Predator".
Yes you can keep telling your self that. Regardless, its a Predator for my reasons mentioned earlier.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 30, 2009, 10:43:10 AM
Yes you can keep telling your self that. Regardless, its a Predator for my reasons mentioned earlier.
Cool, i guess this is the official sequel to Alien then:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motionpictureart.com%2Fstore%2Ffiles%2Fimages%2FPostersLarge%2FAlien2MoviePosterItalian.jpg&hash=a39431301249f263be97875165343469f60f7b38)
Ohh, and this one has Aliens
and Predators in it, how cool is that!
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fclassic-horror.com%2Fimages%2Falien-predator-poster.jpg&hash=2b7703fd738bd0abbf98d012a4b6c31be38ad797)
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha (wipes tear from eye)....keep em coming lads. So funny!
Glad to see we agree now.
Yes if you say so (pats Johnny "Handsome" on head)
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Dec 30, 2009, 10:43:10 AM
Yes you can keep telling your self that. Regardless, its a Predator for my reasons mentioned earlier.
i will. and you can keep telling yourself that.
i have alien predators on vhs!
Quote from: bobcunk on Dec 31, 2009, 08:41:31 AM
i have alien predators on vhs!
How much does it suck? Something in the lines of the BSP description? :P
I have to agree with you on this one Mystic.
Yes the BSP is a alien creature called a Predator and resembles a Predator in a movie called Predators so its a Predator!
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 01:20:20 AM
Yes the BSP is a alien creature called a Predator and resembles a Predator in a movie called Predators so its a Predator!
So I guess the creatures from that Alien 2 movie can be considered aliens too.
When I use the word "alien" I am referring to any extra terrestrial creature.
When I use the word "Alien" I mean The Alien from the Scott, Cameron ect films.
The Predator is an alien. The BSP is an alien that looks like a Predator but only bigger in a movie about Predators. Its the main antagonist, refered to as a Predator, in a Predator movie so its a god dam Predator! Fox Studios who own the right to the Predator franchise refer to the BSP as a Predator (like the one in P1 and P2) but only bigger and stronger! 99.9% of the people who will go see the movie will call them a Predator, like the one in P1 and P2, because they will resemble them but bigger and badder....so they are Predators just like Anytime and Pussyface!
Of course you can go round telling people that the BSP is not a Predator despite it looking like a Predator and being the main bad guy in a Predator movie! However don't blame me if people start slowly backing away from you trying not to make eye contact :)
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 02:07:46 AM
When I use the word "alien" I am referring to any extra terrestrial creature.
When I use the word "Alien" I mean The Alien from the Scott, Cameron ect films.
The Predator is an alien. The BSP is an alien that looks like a Predator but only bigger in a movie about Predators. Its the main antagonist, refered to as a Predator, in a Predator movie so its a god dam Predator! Fox Studios who own the right to the Predator franchise refer to the BSP as a Predator (like the one in P1 and P2) but only bigger and stronger! 99.9% of the people who will go see the movie will call them a Predator, like the one in P1 and P2, because they will resemble them but bigger and badder....so they are Predators just like Anytime and Pussyface!
Of course you can go round telling people that the BSP is not a Predator despite it looking like a Predator and being the main bad guy in a Predator movie! However don't blame me if people start slowly backing away from you trying not to make eye contact :)
Yeah, its a predator... but a really bad one, a predator that can't kill some humans without help of 2 other preds and those alien falcons/dogs. Man.. even the teenagers in AVP were able to take out humans with no problem, but still the ''SUPER PREDATORS'' who according to the writters are superior to any of the other preds still aren't able to beat the crap of a bunch of pussies(adrian brody for god's sake). Its just like if its said that the stupid bugs from ALIENS and AVPR were superior to the original ALIEN.
Its okay that you accept those ''SUPER PREDATORS'' but some people just think that they are just weak to be considered Predators, if its said that they are like 13 years old preds or the worse preds in the clan I would accept but saying that they are better than Anytime and Pussyface is just pure bullshit.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 02:07:46 AM
When I use the word "alien" I am referring to any extra terrestrial creature.
When I use the word "Alien" I mean The Alien from the Scott, Cameron ect films.
The Predator is an alien. The BSP is an alien that looks like a Predator but only bigger in a movie about Predators. Its the main antagonist, refered to as a Predator, in a Predator movie so its a god dam Predator! Fox Studios who own the right to the Predator franchise refer to the BSP as a Predator (like the one in P1 and P2) but only bigger and stronger! 99.9% of the people who will go see the movie will call them a Predator, like the one in P1 and P2, because they will resemble them but bigger and badder....so they are Predators just like Anytime and Pussyface!
Of course you can go round telling people that the BSP is not a Predator despite it looking like a Predator and being the main bad guy in a Predator movie! However don't blame me if people start slowly backing away from you trying not to make eye contact :)
This is this way:
RR and NA are destroying Preds at all. Idea of BSP makes that Real Preds are disappear, dissolve in memory.
It's the same situation as in A R. Newborn creation. Can not you feel? Each bloodthirsty, rapacious predator you can create, you can call Predator, but it is no longer Anytime, it is no longer Pussyface. And it never will. RR destroy in this way what is most precious. And this place he did not give anything meaningful in return. He kills the Preds.
BSP is a Newborn in Pred's universe. Sure, there are those who like Newborn. But do not try to call him Alien or Xeno ... Because people start slowly backing away from you trying not to make eye contact... ;)
No I won't be refering to the BSP as a newborn, just as a Predator. So I doubt anyone will be walking away slowly from me....may be just you and other "real" Predator fans ! Lol
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 09:24:12 AM
No I won't be refering to the BSP as a newborn, just as a Predator. So I doubt anyone will be walking away slowly from me....may be just you and other "real" Predator fans ! Lol
You interpret my posts wrong and I begin to think, that you are doing it deliberately.
I already wrote too much, that you could not understand what I mean.
You see what you want to see. You leeched theories.
And now you complains to me that I am not a fan.
OK. Let it be.
I do not offend you, you have done this twice already.
Further discussion is pointless. :-\
@keylight-di
Where in any of my posts have I accused you of not being a fan?
My "real Predator fan" comment was meant as a cheeky dig to your earlier comments on my "I don't get it" thread where YOU slyly accuse me of not being a "true fan" for not having issues with the BSP!
Its you who has been making the "not a true fan" comments not me.
At least get your facts right.
I have not insulted you any where on these forums. I have just expressed ideas about Predators and movies which you do not agree with! Its you who has disagreed with my ideas and resorted to labelling me as not a fan!
I understand you perfectly. The only thing I don't understand is the almost god like image you have off Predators and the deep philosophical theories you have in regards to them. Despite this I have never mocked you for them, in fact I admired your passion! I am just a fan of the movies, that's were my interest ends. Theefore if my ideas in regards to Predators appear "leeched" (whatever that means) you have to excuse me!
Get your facts straight. Please!
this whole idea with the bsp is a total shame.
I want the original predator , and not some upgraded Terminator/Robocop/Predator/Predalien mix or what ever you wanna call it.
Quote from: Lionhart on Jan 01, 2010, 02:09:30 PM
this whole idea with the bsp is a total shame.
I want the original predator , and not some upgraded Terminator/Robocop/Predator/Predalien mix or what ever you wanna call it.
So I'm not the only one...
Surprise, Mystic? ;)
no I'm not suprised Keylight-di.
However, a BSP is no reason to dismiss a film. For me a good story, good direction, performances are more important! Even you admit the script would make a good action movie, this combined with good production by RR, direction by Antal and performances would make a very good movie!
AvP and AVPR had more "true" Predators and see how these movies turned out! Both are perfect examples of what happens when you value things such as Predator looks and behaviour over a good story and direction!
RR has got the first part right, a good story! The rest we should wait and see since its to early! We don't even know what the BSP will look like so I'm confused as to why people hate something they have not seen.
@Mystic...
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 02:48:52 PM
I'm confused as to why people hate something they have not seen.
This is it.
You are confused.
You're confused about our reaction. We are confused about what's going on with this movie...
And this is the reason, that I sometimes doubt you're true fan.... No offence, please. Because you can't understand our objections, our discontent, our hate, our fury....my pain...
I tried to explain, but no successfully... :-\
Should I try again?
# I can agree, the script is not bad. It's not my dream, but it's good enough to become in good action movie.
# casting is great. Yea.. no reason to make perfect movie, but it's nothing wrong to have good actors. ;)
# so what is going on?
The point is that in movie titled Predators
lack Predators. We have BSP, sure. He is different, maybe he could be better than Real Pred. But he isn't real Pred.
If someone (like me) loves Preds, loves P1, P2... He wants movie with Preds. Like Anytime and Pussyface. Not modifications. We wanna our Preds back.
It's all
about disappointment. People feel cheated. This is not a ordinary movie with bloodthirsty monsters, because we have such a lot movies with monsters. This is a movie of our beloved monster. You really can't understand this? I can't believe... :-\
I can't exclude the possibility that BSP proves that what I saw it will be the most wonderful monster. That he will be better than the Preds. That I fall in love with him like crazy, as I love Preds. I don't exclude this. I hope so. But chances are very small. Because I'm a fan of the Preds. I'm not a fan of all bloodthirsty monsters from action movies. No. I love Preds and I want to movie with Preds.
Especially when this movie is titled Predators....
I can't explain it better way... :-\
@keylight-di
I understand you perfectly. You think the script is good, the casting is good and the direction could potentially be good. However, you fear the film will be rubbish because it does not have a Predator, simmilar to P1 and P2, as the main antagonist.
I understand :)
EDIT: however for me the story, performance and direction is more important then a Predator! If you put too much importance into the Predator neglecting the other aspects you end up with AVPR!
Anytime and Pussyface were legends and always will be. No BSP will ever change that! If I had the power, believe it or not, I would have a great script, great direction, great performance and a classic Pred as the main antagonist. However, Hollywood has not trully achieved that balance since the original Predator and may be P2! The AvP movies are a perfect example of people putting to much emphasis on the Predators instead of concentrating on the script, characters and direction! It looks like RR has gone the other way, where we could potentially have a great action movie with good characters but a poorly designed Predators! And if I'm honest with you if I could only have one or the other, I would choose the great action movie with poor designed Predator rather then a great Predator in a poor movie!
However, non of us know what the BSP looks like so I'm still hoping that we have a great story and a great Predator!
I hope so...
Finally...
It's nothing strange that in movie titled Predators I wanna see Predators, isn't?
For me the story, performances and direction is important in this same way then a Predator! Because we have / we will have many, many movies about monsters. For me Preds are the most important. This same way like the rest of the movie, maybe more. And if they will be all right - that mean they behave correctly, they look correctly etc. - It's the base for all movie.
I hope that would be great action movie with great designed Predator. But there should be a balance in movie.
You can not compare P1, P2, and Predators with AvP. In AvP, in principle, everything is bad. Both the story (no, not the worst) and design (many fans hate fat Preds ;)).
AvP: R I don't take into account at all. This film doesn't fit into any category. ;)
In a good film all the elements have to be harmonious, everything must fit, there must be a balance. Otherwise - anyway - the movie simply is not good. :-\
As I wrote already, I hope that the BSP will be better than is apparent from the description in the script.
I do not know that.
But the script - so far - gives me no hope that his behavior is located in any canon. :-\
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 01, 2010, 02:12:13 PM
So I'm not the only one...
I personally hate the idea of Black Super Predators, as I believe they tarnish the mythos which has been established in Predator, and Predator 2. They make the notion that Veteran, Elders, and Ancient Predators are redundant to Rodriguez's opinion and vision.
I personally wouldn't mind BSPs if someone said that it was just one clan. I know it's implied but I get the feeling that in the sequels to PREDATORS, the original mythos will be beyond recognition and we'll have BSPs all over the place, where normal Predators will be non-existant.
Predators don't need to be upgraded. The original beat up a roided up Schwartzenegger with a few bitch slaps, and when that happened, people knew that the Predator was an ultimate bad ass. There was no need for this upgrading.
It's kind of like how Roland Emmerich decided to upgrade Godzilla, and we just got a messed up, asexual, weak, over-grown lizard. Infact, seeing as how the BSPs are weaker than the normal Predators, I'd say thats the case. Fans got pissed with Emmerich's Godzilla, and... Toho did too, even to where writing off GINO as Zilla, an entirely different entity. The difference between Toho and Fox, is that Toho listened to the fans, and also shared the same sentiments. Fox does not listen to the fans and only cares about the almighty dollar.
And I have to say, with the title being "Robert Rodriguez's Predators", is a brilliant strategy on Fox's part, seeing as how Rodriguez has a following.
So, yes, we're getting upgraded Predators, but are they the original concept? No. If anything, we're getting PINO--
Predator
In
Name
Only.
-Rakai'Thwei
That's not the title. The title is Predators. They are going to slap the "Robert Rodriguez's" part on the posters to gather more people, as well as "Academy-Award Winner Adrien Brody".
And enough with the whole "BSP" thing, we are all aware it doesn't need upgrading, the original is powerful enough on it's own, blah freakin' blah. Stop wasting energy on this.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 01, 2010, 08:19:15 PM
And enough with the whole "BSP" thing, we are all aware it doesn't need upgrading, the original is powerful enough on it's own, blah freakin' blah. Stop wasting energy on this.
What do you expect in thread titled "Black Super Predator"? If you don't wanna read about it, don't read. But stop wasting your energy on senseless attacks, please.
I believe the BSP is a seperate clan and normal Predators still exist since one appears half way through the story and of course the alternative ending!
I think its pretty clear they are a seperate clan but hopefully RR clarifies this during film promotion.
I honestly don't think RR is planning to replace or remove the original Preds from the franchise, otherwise why would they make an appear in the story?
Remember, Brody has signed onto 3 movies. I believe Predators is the start of a bigger story involving both BSP and normal Preds!
I know its all speculation but I believe RR is hinting at a civil war of sorts between two different Predator clans: BSP clan who believe in genetic engineering vs the classic Predator clan where Anytime originates from.
What do you guys think of this concept?
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 08:49:58 PM
I know its all speculation but I believe RR is hinting at a civil war of sorts between two different Predator clans: BSP clan who believe in genetic engineering vs the classic Predator clan where Anytime originates from.
What do you guys think of this concept?
I wouldn't mind that.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 08:45:56 PM
Remember, Brody has signed onto 3 movies. I believe Predators is the start of a bigger story involving both BSP and normal Preds!
It does mean nothing. Sanaa Lathan had signed onto next movie also. And we could see, what happend. Nothing... ;)
But I like this idea. Big, multipart story of war between the clans in the sum. Of course, if the main characters behave as they should (by me ;)). If there will be my Preds.
Mystic, it looks like you wanted to rehabilitate the previous posts ... ;)
I have several times tear off for such speculation and the desire to RR will specify frame of the story. Someone called it childish. ;)
But it seems to me that with such a revolutionary change which makes RR, we need to define a place in time and space. Anderson explained his movie in commentaries and interviews. I still hope that RR will do the same.
If RR wanted to replace the old Preds with the BSP then he would not have the old Preds in the movie.
I'm not trying to rehabilitate anything Keylight-di :)
I just believe that RR is hinting at a clan rivalry.
maybe there just using the super black predator name and discription to throw us off , just a thought but i doubt it
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 01, 2010, 09:22:03 PM
If RR wanted to replace the old Preds with the BSP then he would not have the old Preds in the movie.
I'm not trying to rehabilitate anything Keylight-di :)
I just believe that RR is hinting at a clan rivalry.
I think that could be a good thing... Once the SP's look something like the original Preds... I don't mean carbon copies.. but fairly similar.. Then the clan rivalry could work... Now, it would be a big departure from previous Pred movies... but I'd imagine that's what the comics did, as in, gave the Predators a society etc... I'm just not entirely convinced it would make a good movie... Yes it makes sense that there would be different clans/races of predators as we have in humans on earth... I just don't know if looking at the interactions of these clans/races would make a good Predator movie...
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 02, 2010, 12:11:31 AM
I think that could be a good thing... Once the SP's look something like the original Preds... I don't mean carbon copies.. but fairly similar.. Then the clan rivalry could work... Now, it would be a big departure from previous Pred movies... but I'd imagine that's what the comics did, as in, gave the Predators a society etc...
I wouldn't mind a movie about a clan rivalry. I honestly wouldn't mind because it would show that not all Predators do this self-modification to a genetic level not to mention taking prey to a ground area where they have all the advantage because like others have said, it's Poaching and as far as we can speculate, Predators don't approve of poaching.
If there are sequels done by Roddy, let's just hope that he has researched the mythos, and does a movie about a traditional Predator clan, who are entirely normal, against an entirely renegade clan which has genetically modified Predators.
I'd like to see a normal Elder fight against a BSP leader.
That would make for an interesting movie. A clan war.
Hmm..
-Rakai'Thwei
Oh yeah a regular clan of Preds against the Super Preds (Remember there's only one BSP but there are other super preds) would be the way I'd expect RR to go... I just... I dunno... I'd be wary about it... but that could all change with the release of Predators...
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 02, 2010, 12:45:22 AM
Oh yeah a regular clan of Preds against the Super Preds (Remember there's only one BSP but there are other super preds) would be the way I'd expect RR to go.
...That gives me some comfort.
No really, it does...
Let's just hope no drastic changes to the mythos are made in these sequels.
-Rakai'Thwei
Of course there's also the possibility that Predators is how RR is setting up the Super Predators so the next movie can be based solely on them... :o
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 02, 2010, 01:46:35 AM
Of course there's also the possibility that Predators is how RR is setting up the Super Predators so the next movie can be based solely on them... :o
Pointless. Pointless. To the general public, a predator is a predator.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 02, 2010, 01:57:22 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 02, 2010, 01:46:35 AM
Of course there's also the possibility that Predators is how RR is setting up the Super Predators so the next movie can be based solely on them... :o
Pointless. Pointless. To the general public, a predator is a predator.
Oh to the general public yeah... But this is RR's baby... and I bet he wants to see his twist on the character on the big screen... Hence we get the Super Preds... Hell maybe the next movie will be called Super Predators :P
Mmm. An enjoyable movie is an enjoyable movie, and if this is a good movie as well as a good Predator movie, I will be fine.
I'm lucky... Cause I'll probably enjoy it regardless of how it turns out... I'm odd like that... I enjoyed the two AvP movies even though they suck... Cause I love the Predator 'character'.. I like it that way.. I like being able to enjoy bad movies... But only when I have an investment in the character like Predator movies...
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 02, 2010, 02:18:33 AM
I'm lucky... Cause I'll probably enjoy it regardless of how it turns out... I'm odd like that... I enjoyed the two AvP movies even though they suck... Cause I love the Predator 'character'.. I like it that way.. I like being able to enjoy bad movies... But only when I have an investment in the character like Predator movies...
True. I agree with you on that, even though it would have been much better to receive two well made AvP films. I enjoy parts from both of the AvP movies, such as a few actions scenes or camera angles for the aliens and predators. So some part of me has to admire that about the films, but hopefully Predators will give us more of that throughout the majority of the movie.
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 02, 2010, 02:18:33 AM
I'm lucky... Cause I'll probably enjoy it regardless of how it turns out... I'm odd like that... I enjoyed the two AvP movies even though they suck... Cause I love the Predator 'character'.. I like it that way.. I like being able to enjoy bad movies... But only when I have an investment in the character like Predator movies...
I've got this same. I can love AvP, despite all this nonsenses, bad designed, etc. ;D
But I've got my limits, and AvP:R unfortunately exceeds those limits ...
I can not love this movie. (Well, except that after removal of all the stupidity, only leaving scenes with Wolf... yes, this movie gets very short ;)).
My requirements are not extremely high. Only I'm not at all sure that RR can match it.
@Doomofman, You're not very odd... Not at all. ;D
Hello Fellow Members
I have found a movie portraying Black Super Predator ! ! !
Here it is:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7309159193443204111#
Please don't be mad becauseI posted this link in two topics.
Quote from: Bender1988 on Jan 02, 2010, 09:55:31 AM
Hello Fellow Members
I have found a movie portraying Black Super Predator ! ! !
Here it is:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7309159193443204111#
Please don't be mad becauseI posted this link in two topics.
Hahahaha, ;D, that really is a super black predator. :P
Quote from: Bender1988 on Jan 02, 2010, 09:55:31 AM
Hello Fellow Members
I have found a movie portraying Black Super Predator ! ! !
Here it is:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7309159193443204111#
Please don't be mad becauseI posted this link in two topics.
@Bender, I hate you... lol... ;D ;D
He's really Black... but super?
Great joke... ;D ;D
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 02, 2010, 01:46:35 AM
Of course there's also the possibility that Predators is how RR is setting up the Super Predators so the next movie can be based solely on them... :o
I think thats the intention.
I believe Predator 4 or whatever it will be called (assuming its made and by RR) will have a clan rivalry plot line where the classical Preds will be fighting against the BSP and Royce will be caught in the middle of it all!
The leaked Predators script hints strongly towards this!
Therefore yes expect more BSP but also classical Preds. The BSP will be the villains, Royce the hero and the old Preds as anti heroes.
ARGH
Spoiler
There's only ONE BSP... And it gets killed at the end of Predators... The others are just Super Preds... The black only refers to the armour of ONE Super Pred...
Sorry my bad, I have just ended up using "BSP" to describe all the gene spliced Predators in the story!
Regardless, I expect P4 to have both types of Preds - mutants and normal.
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 03, 2010, 12:40:58 AM
Sorry my bad, I have just ended up using "BSP" to describe all the gene spliced Predators in the story!
Regardless, I expect P4 to have both types of Preds - mutants and normal.
You're not the only one who gets it confused... I'm a bit too picky on detail sometimes...
But yeah I definitely think you're right about the 4th movie if it happens... I guess I hope it does... The more Predator movies without those pesky Aliens the better ;D
I like the Alien franchise but I think its for the best of both franchises if the Aliens and Predators are kept apart in all future movies!
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 03, 2010, 12:51:28 AM
I like the Alien franchise but I think its for the best of both franchises if the Aliens and Predators are kept apart in all future movies!
I've never been a big fan of the Alien movies... I guess when AvP was coming around I was kinda excited... But the Aliens to me just seem like wild ravenous animals... Although with the Super Preds RR might be taking Predators a step in that direction...
Its possible but I have interpreted the Super Preds in a different way - I see them as Scientists and not the warriors/hunters that we have seen in previous movies.
Unlike the classical Preds, whose trophy is the preys skull, the Super Preds trophy is the Preys DNA!
I see the planet in which Predators is set as more of a giant lab then a hunting ground. This also explained the key differences in behaviour between the classic Preds and Super Preds, such as poaching prey, use of hunting dogs, ect
The Super Preds are not hunting for sport, in the story they are hunting to find the strongest Prey. Everything that the Prey, such as Royce, is subjected to (dogs, falcons, SP, other prey ect) is just a serious of tests to single out the strongest and toughest! Its the strongest that interests the Super Preds most since they want their DNA! The Super Preds will use their DNA to make themselves stronger and better! Why they do this, I believe we will find out in P4 and will be one of the key reasons why there is a division in Predator society resulting in a clan war.
It may be just a massive coinscident but I believe the next upcomming Pred comic is about a sectarian conflict in Predator society. May be its a tie in with Predators? Read it on wiki, type "Predator comics wiki" in google. I may have misread so please correct me if I'm wrong.
jesus so many hates the super predators at least lets see them in action before bitching about them ;)
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 03, 2010, 01:09:59 AM
It may be just a massive coinscident but I believe the next upcomming Pred comic is about a sectarian conflict in Predator society. May be its a tie in with Predators? Read it on wiki, type "Predator comics wiki" in google. I may have misread so please correct me if I'm wrong.
Pfffft!! I wish it tied in with the comics because then things would make sense and I would have alot of relief brought to my doubts but I highly doubt that would happen at all.
I highly doubt that Dark Horse knows anymore about PREDATORS than we, the fans at AvPGalaxy do.
-Rakai'Thwei
Ya never know. Maybe phone calls were made, e-mails sent, anythings possible.
I am one of those people who is a die-hard Predator fan and a huge Alien fan. I'm entirely promiscuos like that. And while I prefer the franchises to be seperate I'm not opposed to a crossover as long as it is done well. Much like the crossovers of the classic Universal monsters which to this day I love to watch.
Quote from: AncientPred on Jan 03, 2010, 09:29:19 PM
Ya never know. Maybe phone calls were made, e-mails sent, anythings possible.
I am one of those people who is a die-hard Predator fan and a huge Alien fan. I'm entirely promiscuos like that. And while I prefer the franchises to be seperate I'm not opposed to a crossover as long as it is done well. Much like the crossovers of the classic Universal monsters which to this day I love to watch.
Agree, well put AncientPred.
here's my concept drawing i did of the black super predators and pred dogs and falcon.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1030800.jpg&hash=706fc85178b01382ac529a2b077c0351e954df0d)
Niiiiiiiiiiiice man, nice drawing.
very nice drawing bro.
But this whole idea with the falcons and dogs are stupid imo.
Actually this is quite strong part of the script...
For predator dog I`d like to see this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg227.imageshack.us%2Fimg227%2F4189%2Frelic2akz5.jpg&hash=2b7fc4b04475fb07ece49eb6c5b9110bcb206f0d)
Pure Stan Winston :D
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 03, 2010, 10:08:03 PM
here's my concept drawing i did of the black super predators and pred dogs and falcon.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1030800.jpg&hash=706fc85178b01382ac529a2b077c0351e954df0d)
thats cool. I would not be suprised if the dogs and falcons actually end up looking like that since this is how I pictured them when I read the script.
8)
Quote from: Mystic Ninja on Jan 03, 2010, 10:26:12 PM
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 03, 2010, 10:08:03 PM
here's my concept drawing i did of the black super predators and pred dogs and falcon.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1030800.jpg&hash=706fc85178b01382ac529a2b077c0351e954df0d)
thats cool. I would not be suprised if the dogs and falcons actually end up looking like that since this is how I pictured them when I read the script.
8)
If the dogs, falcons, and BSP come out to look like that in the movie as they do in the pic than I would be happy
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 03, 2010, 10:08:03 PM
here's my concept drawing i did of the black super predators and pred dogs and falcon.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1030800.jpg&hash=706fc85178b01382ac529a2b077c0351e954df0d)
where is the triple canon thing that everyone hates and the medevil knight/samurai armour?
@Requiem: Sick drawing, let's hope we see something similiar
@Master: I'm upset they didn't do that sequel, I love that design
I've got to say, that is a bad ass drawing. Real awesome, man!
But I thought BSP and SPs were supposed to look different from normal Predators.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Oct 01, 2009, 12:02:48 AM
http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l476/Mr_Domino0990/MichaelJacksonimage.jpg
Somebody had to say it, eventually.
LOL! Make sure to add R. Kelly to that list!
Quote from: EarthHive on Jan 04, 2010, 05:40:01 AM
Quote from: Mr. Domino on Oct 01, 2009, 12:02:48 AM
http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l476/Mr_Domino0990/MichaelJacksonimage.jpg
Somebody had to say it, eventually.
LOL! Make sure to add R. Kelly to that list!
Ha ha ha ha ha! You know me and some friends of mine were joking about how the name sounds.. I think my friend Nana said that it sounded like the name of a pedophile.
-Rakai'Thwei
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Jan 04, 2010, 04:05:53 AM
I've got to say, that is a bad ass drawing. Real awesome, man!
But I thought BSP and SPs were supposed to look different from normal Predators.
-Rakai'Thwei
thanks RakaiThwei, and thanks everyone too! ;)
i don't know if you can see it, and i don't think it is much of a difference myself, but i drew horns over the center preds brows. :-\
Are you going to make another concept for SPs?
Cool drawing... But needs black armor on one of them, the triple headed plasma caster, red eyes, more exagerated mandibles... Plus the preds behind the first make it a bit of a mess to make out... Do one of just the BSP if you can
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 04, 2010, 09:45:03 PM
Cool drawing... But needs black armor on one of them, the triple headed plasma caster, red eyes, more exagerated mandibles... Plus the preds behind the first make it a bit of a mess to make out... Do one of just the BSP if you can
will do. ;)
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 05, 2010, 12:03:14 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 04, 2010, 09:45:03 PM
Cool drawing... But needs black armor on one of them, the triple headed plasma caster, red eyes, more exagerated mandibles... Plus the preds behind the first make it a bit of a mess to make out... Do one of just the BSP if you can
will do. ;)
Awesome... Wish I could put my visions down on paper like that...
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 03, 2010, 10:08:03 PM
here's my concept drawing i did of the black super predators and pred dogs and falcon.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1030800.jpg&hash=706fc85178b01382ac529a2b077c0351e954df0d)
Did some re-coloring! Still your work :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi149.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs62%2Fmadvp%2Fsbprecolor.jpg&hash=c1bb5ad98b778f0d0e1201b55adf265407677be1)
Check out Joe Dunaway's fantastic Bad Blood paint up...he posted it over at the lair. This is a black skinned version of a predator. Talk amongst yourselves...(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fthumbs%2Flrg-2252-bbt7.jpg&hash=655c2334b2b0c4296c0ee416ae9da0f206e5b960)
The BSP doesn't have black skin... it has black armor.... sigh
So what...
He is.... perfect... And these skulls...
(looking at BSP with adoration)
The skulls look stupid... Good luck moving through a jungle environment with those on your shoulders
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 06, 2010, 07:02:31 PM
The skulls look stupid... Good luck moving through a jungle environment with those on your shoulders
Maybe..
But... here it is not about practicality, but the appearance that gives meaning. It's like a tattoo, like a banner, "Hey you, I am BAD!"
People do the same - they often sacrifice comfort for looks. Look at Yakuza. Or at the woman ... ;)
These are Preds skulls.
A tattoo is fine.. Tattoos don't get tangled in trees...
Yea...
But if they wanna show how much badass they are, how much powerfull... Some stupid skulls can't disturb them. They are so badass... ;D
Can you understand this kind of thinking? ;D
I'm not saying that this is wise. But this is very badass. ;D
BTW this kind of mounting skulls on the back is often found in different sources (do you remember AvP? ;))
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 06, 2010, 08:57:19 PM
Yea...
But if they wanna show how much badass they are, how much powerfull... Some stupid skulls can't disturb them. They are so badass... ;D
Can you understand this kind of thinking? ;D
I'm not saying that this is wise. But this is very badass. ;D
BTW this kind of mounting skulls on the back is often found in different sources (do you remember AvP? ;))
Doesn't matter how many 'sources' have had it.. Doesn't stop it being retarded... Yeah carrying two sniper rifles on your shoulders with their barrels sticking up in the air would look pretty bad ass... but if you lived in a jungle it would just be impractical
I'm not trying to convince you. I can only say that I like it. Me. Personally. ;D
You can don't like it. ;D
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Jan 06, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
Did some re-coloring! Still your work :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi149.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs62%2Fmadvp%2Fsbprecolor.jpg&hash=c1bb5ad98b778f0d0e1201b55adf265407677be1)
hey, not bad. ;) i never had anyone do something like that to my art. thanks.
and to you two guys having the argument about the skulls.....who said that Bad Blood is in a jungle?
Took the words out of my mouth Requiem, plus, it wouldn't be that hard to maneuver with those, especially for something like a Predator.
Quote from: Sylizar on Jan 06, 2010, 09:34:11 PM
Took the words out of my mouth Requiem, plus, it wouldn't be that hard to maneuver with those, especially for something like a Predator.
Doesn't it looks badass, huh? All these skulls? Does it make sense for you? BTW Triple plasmacaster can't be much smaller than this. ;D
(asking with much more caution ;))
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 06, 2010, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Jan 06, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
Did some re-coloring! Still your work :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi149.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs62%2Fmadvp%2Fsbprecolor.jpg&hash=c1bb5ad98b778f0d0e1201b55adf265407677be1)
hey, not bad. ;) i never had anyone do something like that to my art. thanks.
and to you two guys having the argument about the skulls.....who said that Bad Blood is in a jungle?
Predators home world is a jungle planet is it not?
Also for the recoloring... Needs more armor...
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 06, 2010, 09:42:22 PM
Quote from: Sylizar on Jan 06, 2010, 09:34:11 PM
Took the words out of my mouth Requiem, plus, it wouldn't be that hard to maneuver with those, especially for something like a Predator.
Doesn't it looks badass, huh? All these skulls? Does it make sense for you? BTW Triple plasmacaster can't be much smaller than this. ;D
(asking with much more caution ;))
One of the more badass looking Preds I've ever seen. And I agree.
Remind me never to go to war with you people... Would be constantly having to cut you and your weapons/silly shoulder adornments out of a tangled mess of undergrowth...
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 08, 2010, 12:12:29 AM
Remind me never to go to war with you people... Would be constantly having to cut you and your weapons/silly shoulder adornments out of a tangled mess of undergrowth...
Was it war? ;D We only exchange views on the subject. The issue of appearance and taste is very personal. I say that I like it, you say that you don't like. And everything is OK. Fortunately, I don't work in the production of this film. ;D
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 08, 2010, 04:23:40 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 08, 2010, 12:12:29 AM
Remind me never to go to war with you people... Would be constantly having to cut you and your weapons/silly shoulder adornments out of a tangled mess of undergrowth...
Was it war? ;D We only exchange views on the subject. The issue of appearance and taste is very personal. I say that I like it, you say that you don't like. And everything is OK. Fortunately, I don't work in the production of this film. ;D
i think he means that it would be diffucult fighting with us since we prefer the skulls on our shoulders bro. as if we ever got into an actual fight with him. hehehe ;)
Wouldn't be hard to win a battle with those, unless you're a complete moron and don't know about depth perception or the size of the skulls that YOU placed on your own shoulders.
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 08, 2010, 09:09:55 PM
Quote from: keylight-di on Jan 08, 2010, 04:23:40 AM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 08, 2010, 12:12:29 AM
Remind me never to go to war with you people... Would be constantly having to cut you and your weapons/silly shoulder adornments out of a tangled mess of undergrowth...
Was it war? ;D We only exchange views on the subject. The issue of appearance and taste is very personal. I say that I like it, you say that you don't like. And everything is OK. Fortunately, I don't work in the production of this film. ;D
i think he means that it would be diffucult fighting with us since we prefer the skulls on our shoulders bro. as if we ever got into an actual fight with him. hehehe ;)
Yeap... Probably... ;D
He claims, that it's unpractical - all these bushes etc. But for me all these skulls are not much bigger than triple plasma cannon and for as badass as BSP is it really doesn't matter. And that it's his (BSP) demonstration, how strong and clever is he. I didn't say it's practical and useful. But it looks great. ;D
Creating difficulties, forming additional challenges could show how big the ego of BSP is. Bigger than those of the skull. Much bigger. ;D
If BSP uses dogs and another help, he doesn't have to wade through the bushes. He is build like a tank. Some "jewerly" on the shoulders can't disturb him.
IMHO.
So no fight. Peace . :D
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 06, 2010, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 06, 2010, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Jan 06, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
Did some re-coloring! Still your work :D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi149.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs62%2Fmadvp%2Fsbprecolor.jpg&hash=c1bb5ad98b778f0d0e1201b55adf265407677be1)
hey, not bad. ;) i never had anyone do something like that to my art. thanks.
and to you two guys having the argument about the skulls.....who said that Bad Blood is in a jungle?
Predators home world is a jungle planet is it not?
Also for the recoloring... Needs more armor...
i Thought the predators homeworld was an arid dry desert like place? not sure where i got that from so i might be wrong
Quote from: Hollowhero on Jan 08, 2010, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: Doomofman on Jan 06, 2010, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 06, 2010, 09:28:55 PM
Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Jan 06, 2010, 09:07:00 AM
Did some re-coloring! Still your work :D
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hey, not bad. ;) i never had anyone do something like that to my art. thanks.
and to you two guys having the argument about the skulls.....who said that Bad Blood is in a jungle?
Predators home world is a jungle planet is it not?
Also for the recoloring... Needs more armor...
i Thought the predators homeworld was an arid dry desert like place? not sure where i got that from so i might be wrong
Or them planet has heterogeneous climat, this same way like Earth. Maybe hotter, a bit different, but I really doubt that all planet has this same climat, vegetation etc. ;)
It all depends which piece of home world we'll see.
BTW great work, Requiem. :)
already posted this pic on my art thread and the set pics one, but heres my BSP unmasked...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1170853.jpg&hash=2ed0223b1e367188ddacfd9c71cd3c8ae73a5490)
Quote from: Requiem28 on Jan 18, 2010, 12:42:28 AM
already posted this pic on my art thread and the set pics one, but heres my BSP unmasked...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Foo183%2FJAROSHULK28%2FP1170853.jpg&hash=2ed0223b1e367188ddacfd9c71cd3c8ae73a5490)
That's fantastic, i bow down to you sir!
(He is gorgeous, very sexy!....i kid i kid) ;)
any one got a picture of the real black predator?
Quote from: shakermakerman on Jan 24, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
any one got a picture of the real black predator?
If there was a picture, you would have seen it.
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Jan 24, 2010, 12:34:49 AM
Quote from: shakermakerman on Jan 24, 2010, 12:18:18 AM
any one got a picture of the real black predator?
If there was a picture, you would have seen it.
not really iv not been on for a while (forum),, and it will be a good while when im back...
i like the idea of black super pred's... it will give you the idea of wow there is even a predator that's more bada** than the orignal that arnold fought. which is pretty awsome in a way, Not to mention we get to see a massive fight between the orignal and the super you can't get any better than that. For once we will get to see the awsome power between the preds and show what they can really do... because we have already seen what they can do to a human from the first pred where arnold at a hand to hand combat got his *ss kicked...
This is image of SP I made some time ago after I`ve read the script for first time. I`m not sure that I should have post it, but f**k it. Enjoy! ;D
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Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 25, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
i like the idea of black super pred's... it will give you the idea of wow there is even a predator that's more bada** than the orignal that arnold fought. which is pretty awsome in a way.
Not really, it's actually redundant. Arnold was already completely physically outmatched against a regular Predator, so what's the point of a Predator that's even stronger? Being more ruthless, using more brutal hunting tactics, just overall showing a different behaviour from what we've seen before? That's something different and interesting to see. Being taller, stronger, faster? Pointless since the original Predator was already a badass.
Quote from: Master on Mar 17, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
This is image of SP I made some time ago after I`ve read the script for first time. I`m not sure that I should have post it, but f**k it. Enjoy! ;D
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff244%2F000Master000%2FObraz.jpg%3Ft%3D1268835511&hash=c15da0b51c106f7ae3350f0ab3d6e4c006ac569c)
That looks freaky (in a good way). Although, you should bulk it up a bit more since the new Preds are meant to be more muscular right?
Quote from: Dusk on Mar 17, 2010, 05:11:03 PM
Quote from: Pred fan 83 on Jan 25, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
i like the idea of black super pred's... it will give you the idea of wow there is even a predator that's more bada** than the orignal that arnold fought. which is pretty awsome in a way.
Not really, it's actually redundant. Arnold was already completely physically outmatched against a regular Predator, so what's the point of a Predator that's even stronger? Being more ruthless, using more brutal hunting tactics, just overall showing a different behaviour from what we've seen before? That's something different and interesting to see. Being taller, stronger, faster? Pointless since the original Predator was already a badass.
This time you're dealing with the most deadliest people on earth. Have you ever played games online ? I thought I was good, but there were gamers playing godlike and win every f**kin' time when I challenged them !
For you it seems almost impossible to fight these preds. But you must not underestimate humans strength which is not physical, but in this case, especially for this movie the most powerful weapon: the mind. Just look at Adrien Brody.
How do you think he wil win this game ?
Of course it's the bloody mind. That's how Dutch won, that's probably how most humans will win against a Predator. So it changes nothing about my statement that a stronger Predator is redundant. RR wants to show a different Predator? Then he should show one that's even more cunning. I already like that he shows how different they are in their hunting tactics.
Both preds in P1 and 2 were defeated only because humans were lucky ;)
Quote from: Master on Mar 17, 2010, 06:02:30 PM
Both preds in P1 and 2 were defeated only because humans were lucky ;)
well in arnolds case abit of luck but also skills if he dident have the skills he would never have been able to make the trap to not kill it but wound it that badly
with harrigan the predator wasent as skilled as anytime second pussyface lost his arm got shot multiple times in the stormach ( i know he closed his own wounds BUt still it gotta hurt xD) and in the end pussyface gave harrigan a opening and he took it. in harrigans case that was pure luck that the predator wasent as skilled like anytime ( becuse im pretty sure if it was anytime in the city then the ending could have been alot diffrend) :)
Same can be said about Pussyface in the jungle. Our film would end very quickly.
Quote from: Dusk on Mar 17, 2010, 06:00:36 PM
Of course it's the bloody mind. That's how Dutch won, that's probably how most humans will win against a Predator. So it changes nothing about my statement that a stronger Predator is redundant. RR wants to show a different Predator? Then he should show one that's even more cunning. I already like that he shows how different they are in their hunting tactics.
I like the "danger from within" concept of the group of human prey and this combined with the Preds, dogs, falcons, enviroment jacks up everything into a different intensity league that we have not seen before.
Quote from: Master on Mar 17, 2010, 06:14:27 PM
Same can be said about Pussyface in the jungle. Our film would end very quickly.
not really course if harrigan could do that to him then think what arnolds team could do to pussyface also ^^
Quote from: Dark Jester on Mar 17, 2010, 06:16:44 PM
I like the "danger from within" concept of the group of human prey and this combined with the Preds, dogs, falcons, enviroment jacks up everything into a different intensity league that we have not seen before.
HOORAH!!!!
Quote from: Master on Mar 17, 2010, 06:14:27 PM
Same can be said about Pussyface in the jungle. Our film would end very quickly.
"Pussyface" hunted quickly because he was usually in the middle of heat. And when it was one on one, he took his time... King Willie. I think he would of took as much time the first Predator did in the jungle.
But some just don`t understand that ::)
They're on their own then.
I love how this forum is filled with irrelevant bickering lol
Quote from: Mutha_Brucka on Mar 18, 2010, 04:08:01 AM
I love how this forum is filled with irrelevant bickering lol
Happens in most forum's, get used to it.
Quote from: draken161 on Mar 18, 2010, 05:47:29 AM
Quote from: Mutha_Brucka on Mar 18, 2010, 04:08:01 AM
I love how this forum is filled with irrelevant bickering lol
Happens in all forum's, get used to it.
fixed
BSP... He's a bad mutha... ;D
On the wiki on the cast it say who is playing each character and it said that the black super pred was played by ... and the super pred was being played by ... is there a diffence between BSP and a SP
The sp preds are completely different characters, especially since the BSP is the main antagonist of the film.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Mar 18, 2010, 03:45:33 PM
The sp preds are completely different characters, especially since the BSP is the main antagonist of the film.
Oh god so there is three pred fractions ? or do mark 1 preds only cameos in this.
There's only 2 factions, the BSP is with the SPs' and the OG pred has an actual role in the film to play.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Mar 18, 2010, 04:00:03 PM
There's only 2 factions, the BSP is with the SPs' and the OG pred has an actual role in the film to play.
Oh thanks I thought that all the preds were BSP against humans glad to know I was wrong.
oh so its a blacksuperpredator ( the leader) then super predators ( under the leader) and then the original one whos fighting the other predators ? ( sorry i dident read the script)
Quote from: dallevalle on Mar 18, 2010, 04:16:21 PM
oh so its a blacksuperpredator ( the leader) then super predators ( under the leader) and then the original one whos fighting the other predators ? ( sorry i dident read the script)
Sounds like it. Is there only 1 original pred in the leaked script. ? If so it dosen't sound like there will be cool pred vs pred fight scenes since in the sneek peek the original pred was tied up.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Mar 18, 2010, 04:16:21 PM
oh so its a blacksuperpredator ( the leader) then super predators ( under the leader) and then the original one whos fighting the other predators ? ( sorry i dident read the script)
Sounds like it. Is there only 1 original pred in the leaked script. ? If so it dosen't sound like there will be cool pred vs pred fight scenes since in the sneek peek the original pred was tied up.
but remember this isent a predator vs predator movie this is us following the humans for survival its kinda the preds vs humans the pred vs pred is just a big bonus if you ask me ^^
Quote from: dallevalle on Mar 18, 2010, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Mar 18, 2010, 04:16:21 PM
oh so its a blacksuperpredator ( the leader) then super predators ( under the leader) and then the original one whos fighting the other predators ? ( sorry i dident read the script)
Sounds like it. Is there only 1 original pred in the leaked script. ? If so it dosen't sound like there will be cool pred vs pred fight scenes since in the sneek peek the original pred was tied up.
but remember this isent a predator vs predator movie this is us following the humans for survival its kinda the preds vs humans the pred vs pred is just a big bonus if you ask me ^^
I know but it would expand the story it would give it strength in depth if they give a small side story or maybe a red herring. If they give you the idea of why it is so important for the humans to study.
well as i understood it this is not to study the humans this is a game to the sp´s thats all this is hints the way they hunt with falcons and hounds.
Quote from: dallevalle on Mar 18, 2010, 04:30:28 PM
well as i understood it this is not to study the humans this is a game to the sp´s thats all this is hints the way they hunt with falcons and hounds.
Oh I don't know much about the film that doesn't invole spoilers. I don't want to read the script.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:36:00 PM
Quote from: dallevalle on Mar 18, 2010, 04:30:28 PM
well as i understood it this is not to study the humans this is a game to the sp´s thats all this is hints the way they hunt with falcons and hounds.
Oh I don't know much about the film that doesn't invole spoilers. I don't want to read the script.
i know what you mean xD i dident read it either i just cant get myself to do it !! ^^
What if they changed teh script and we dont have a clue what the BSP would look like?
Maybe its a surprise or we are absolutly sure there will be only 4 preds in the movie?
Only asking by the way.
Quote from: Raptor on Mar 18, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
What if they changed teh script and we dont have a clue what the BSP would look like?
Maybe its a surprise or we are absolutly sure there will be only 4 preds in the movie?
Only asking by the way.
I saw 3 sp/bsp and one original in the sneek peek does that match the ratio from the script?
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: Raptor on Mar 18, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
What if they changed teh script and we dont have a clue what the BSP would look like?
Maybe its a surprise or we are absolutly sure there will be only 4 preds in the movie?
Only asking by the way.
I saw 3 sp/bsp and one original in the sneek peek does that match the ratio from the script?
Spoiler
no. the sneak preview excludes the Pigmy Predator, Snake Predator and Mongo Predator. RR might be saving these three for the full trailer, can not wait...
Quote from: Dark Jester on Mar 18, 2010, 04:53:53 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: Raptor on Mar 18, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
What if they changed teh script and we dont have a clue what the BSP would look like?
Maybe its a surprise or we are absolutly sure there will be only 4 preds in the movie?
Only asking by the way.
I saw 3 sp/bsp and one original in the sneek peek does that match the ratio from the script?
Spoiler
no. the sneak preview excludes the Pigmy Predator, Snake Predator and Mongo Predator. RR might be saving these three for the full trailer, can not wait...
So there is
Spoiler
7 predators in the script.
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: Dark Jester on Mar 18, 2010, 04:53:53 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: Raptor on Mar 18, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
What if they changed teh script and we dont have a clue what the BSP would look like?
Maybe its a surprise or we are absolutly sure there will be only 4 preds in the movie?
Only asking by the way.
I saw 3 sp/bsp and one original in the sneek peek does that match the ratio from the script?
Spoiler
no. the sneak preview excludes the Pigmy Predator, Snake Predator and Mongo Predator. RR might be saving these three for the full trailer, can not wait...
So there is Spoiler
7 predators in the script.
sorry dude, it was my crap attempt at humor. Wont happen again. You was write the first time. There are only
Spoiler
4 Preds: Predator with Hunting dog, Predator with Falcon, Mr Black (aka the BSP) and the classic Predator.
Quote from: Dark Jester on Mar 18, 2010, 05:33:28 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: Dark Jester on Mar 18, 2010, 04:53:53 PM
Quote from: Predator:o:95 on Mar 18, 2010, 04:49:50 PM
Quote from: Raptor on Mar 18, 2010, 04:40:12 PM
What if they changed teh script and we dont have a clue what the BSP would look like?
Maybe its a surprise or we are absolutly sure there will be only 4 preds in the movie?
Only asking by the way.
I saw 3 sp/bsp and one original in the sneek peek does that match the ratio from the script?
Spoiler
no. the sneak preview excludes the Pigmy Predator, Snake Predator and Mongo Predator. RR might be saving these three for the full trailer, can not wait...
So there is Spoiler
7 predators in the script.
sorry dude, it was my crap attempt at humor. Wont happen again. You was write the first time. There are only
Spoiler
4 Preds: Predator with Hunting dog, Predator with Falcon, Mr Black (aka the BSP) and the classic Predator.
Oh I read the names at a glance I get it lol but I haven't read the script so I belive anything.
I wonder how old Mr. Black and friends are suppose to be?
i havnt really read the script but are they from another clan or genetically modified?
i guess mr.black would be close to wolf regarding the age?
Quote from: vortep on Sep 30, 2009, 07:05:09 PM
What's that means? Is the predator's skin will be black ore he's mask? Any idea/
In the script, it says he has "Black" armor. That's why he is Black Super Predator. He is just Super Predator in Black armor. That's it. There is NOTHING else stating he is different then a Super Predator other than Black armor.
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Mar 30, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
i havnt really read the script but are they from another clan or genetically modified?
i guess mr.black would be close to wolf regarding the age?
Spoiler
Well, more than one predator have died in that game preserve according to the script,
They hunt predators too, sometimes they crucify and torture them, I find it hard to believe that they would be a part of a bigger clan, I think that they belonged to a smaller clan or hunting party from the beginning, who decided to go their own way, they are genetically modified, it might have something to do why they went their own way and started hunting their own.
They hunt and kill how it fits them...If the classic Predator had traditions followed rules, a code, had honour or whatever one would like to label it, , then these don't.
They got no rules, they don't care about the prey showing sport, they only hunt for fun, in an area of their choosing.
I see them as the movie version of a Bad Blood.
As a concept a Predator who hunts other Predators has merit, it just all comes down to the execution.
Am I right in thinking that the Predator with the tusks on his mask and the single long wrist blade from the poster is the BSP or am I being a bit thick? (if I am being thick don't be mean cuz you'd only be picking on a girl ;D)
Quote from: Raven on Apr 02, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Am I right in thinking that the Predator with the tusks on his mask and the single long wrist blade from the poster is the BSP or am I being a bit thick? (if I am being thick don't be mean cuz you'd only be picking on a girl ;D)
Haha, actually no, the BSP is the one with the Jawbone on his mask, and the one in the poster.
The one with the tusks is just one of the Super Predators. ;D
And all of them have single wrist blade.
Well they might... I mean we haven't seen enough of them to know that.
Quote from: Travis Scott on Apr 02, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: Raven on Apr 02, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Am I right in thinking that the Predator with the tusks on his mask and the single long wrist blade from the poster is the BSP or am I being a bit thick? (if I am being thick don't be mean cuz you'd only be picking on a girl ;D)
Haha, actually no, the BSP is the one with the Jawbone on his mask, and the one in the poster.
The one with the tusks is just one of the Super Predators. ;D
jawbone on his mask or is it a part of his face?
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Apr 02, 2010, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: Travis Scott on Apr 02, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: Raven on Apr 02, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Am I right in thinking that the Predator with the tusks on his mask and the single long wrist blade from the poster is the BSP or am I being a bit thick? (if I am being thick don't be mean cuz you'd only be picking on a girl ;D)
Haha, actually no, the BSP is the one with the Jawbone on his mask, and the one in the poster.
The one with the tusks is just one of the Super Predators. ;D
jawbone on his mask or is it a part of his face?
On his mask.
Quote from: Travis Scott on Apr 02, 2010, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Apr 02, 2010, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: Travis Scott on Apr 02, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: Raven on Apr 02, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Am I right in thinking that the Predator with the tusks on his mask and the single long wrist blade from the poster is the BSP or am I being a bit thick? (if I am being thick don't be mean cuz you'd only be picking on a girl ;D)
Haha, actually no, the BSP is the one with the Jawbone on his mask, and the one in the poster.
The one with the tusks is just one of the Super Predators. ;D
jawbone on his mask or is it a part of his face?
On his mask.
Is BSP mask missing a bit at the bottom or is that part of the mask?
Quote from: Milan on Mar 31, 2010, 12:01:23 AM
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Mar 30, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
i havnt really read the script but are they from another clan or genetically modified?
i guess mr.black would be close to wolf regarding the age?
Spoiler
Well, more than one predator have died in that game preserve according to the script,
They hunt predators too, sometimes they crucify and torture them, I find it hard to believe that they would be a part of a bigger clan, I think that they belonged to a smaller clan or hunting party from the beginning, who decided to go their own way, they are genetically modified, it might have something to do why they went their own way and started hunting their own.
They hunt and kill how it fits them...If the classic Predator had traditions followed rules, a code, had honour or whatever one would like to label it, , then these don't.
They got no rules, they don't care about the prey showing sport, they only hunt for fun, in an area of their choosing.
Couldent agree w/ you more,
Spoiler
It says in the script that if you thought a regular predator was bad you dont wanna f#$ck w/ a BSP, or something like that.
Cant wait to see just how vicious and brutal these "bad bloods" are. Isnt' it against their code or something to kill another predator w/out cause or something like that?
About the mask...... it looks like a jawbone he found and just attached it to his mask I dont think a peice of his mask is missing or anything but I could be wrong.
Quote from: Corporate Merc on Apr 03, 2010, 01:36:22 AM
Quote from: Milan on Mar 31, 2010, 12:01:23 AM
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Mar 30, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
i havnt really read the script but are they from another clan or genetically modified?
i guess mr.black would be close to wolf regarding the age?
Spoiler
Well, more than one predator have died in that game preserve according to the script,
They hunt predators too, sometimes they crucify and torture them, I find it hard to believe that they would be a part of a bigger clan, I think that they belonged to a smaller clan or hunting party from the beginning, who decided to go their own way, they are genetically modified, it might have something to do why they went their own way and started hunting their own.
They hunt and kill how it fits them...If the classic Predator had traditions followed rules, a code, had honour or whatever one would like to label it, , then these don't.
They got no rules, they don't care about the prey showing sport, they only hunt for fun, in an area of their choosing.
Couldent agree w/ you more, Spoiler
It says in the script that if you thought a regular predator was bad you dont wanna f#$ck w/ a BSP, or something like that.
Yeah, but that comes from comics and other non movie media, so it's pretty much up for speculation.
That being said, I go by the "flirting" rule when it comes to the Predator as a creature.
If the comic says that a Predator followes a code that tells him that he shouldn't kill a pregnant woman cause the baby inside her ain't valued as worthy prey,
Then they show a Predator in a movie that doesn't kill his female prey cause she was pregnant, then I see them as Hunters who hunts by a code or rules.
Cause the comic flirted with the movie and the movie responded by flirting back.
We haven't seen a Predator being punished or exiled by his clan in the movies,
a flirt from the comics have been sent out but it hasn't really been answered by the movies yet,
with "Predators" it might be, it looks that way but I not 100% sure.
AvP-R said that Wolf was an elite...
But he didn't show any Superior skills and for me it's a f**king mystery how he survived the rite of passage and the hunts that came after.
Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on Apr 02, 2010, 11:53:52 PM
Quote from: Travis Scott on Apr 02, 2010, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Apr 02, 2010, 09:54:57 PM
Quote from: Travis Scott on Apr 02, 2010, 09:04:08 PM
Quote from: Raven on Apr 02, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Am I right in thinking that the Predator with the tusks on his mask and the single long wrist blade from the poster is the BSP or am I being a bit thick? (if I am being thick don't be mean cuz you'd only be picking on a girl ;D)
Haha, actually no, the BSP is the one with the Jawbone on his mask, and the one in the poster.
The one with the tusks is just one of the Super Predators. ;D
jawbone on his mask or is it a part of his face?
On his mask.
Is BSP mask missing a bit at the bottom or is that part of the mask?
Last I checked I didn't think he was missing anything, it's just the Jawbone on his mask at the bottom.
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Quote from: Urban Hunter on Mar 30, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
i havnt really read the script but are they from another clan or genetically modified?
i guess mr.black would be close to wolf regarding the age?
Spoiler
Well, more than one predator have died in that game preserve according to the script,
They hunt predators too, sometimes they crucify and torture them, I find it hard to believe that they would be a part of a bigger clan, I think that they belonged to a smaller clan or hunting party from the beginning, who decided to go their own way, they are genetically modified, it might have something to do why they went their own way and started hunting their own.
They hunt and kill how it fits them...If the classic Predator had traditions followed rules, a code, had honour or whatever one would like to label it, , then these don't.
They got no rules, they don't care about the prey showing sport, they only hunt for fun, in an area of their choosing.
Couldent agree w/ you more, Spoiler
It says in the script that if you thought a regular predator was bad you dont wanna f#$ck w/ a BSP, or something like that.
Yeah, but that comes from comics and other non movie media, so it's pretty much up for speculation.
That being said, I go by the "flirting" rule when it comes to the Predator as a creature.
If the comic says that a Predator followes a code that tells him that he shouldn't kill a pregnant woman cause the baby inside her ain't valued as worthy prey,
Then they show a Predator in a movie that doesn't kill his female prey cause she was pregnant, then I see them as Hunters who hunts by a code or rules.
Cause the comic flirted with the movie and the movie responded by flirting back.
We haven't seen a Predator being punished or exiled by his clan in the movies,
a flirt from the comics have been sent out but it hasn't really been answered by the movies yet,
with "Predators" it might be, it looks that way but I not 100% sure.
AvP-R said that Wolf was an elite...
But he didn't show any Superior skills and for me it's a f**king mystery how he survived the rite of passage and the hunts that came after.
Spoiler
Kinda curious how in the script and judging by the trailer how the BSPs' captured the OSP. Was he specificly sent to kill/capture them? and was he alone? In the script there was pred skulls and bones/pred equipment in front of Nolan's cave.
To many questions I know f#$king July cant get here soon enough man.
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Quote from: Raven on Apr 02, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Am I right in thinking that the Predator with the tusks on his mask and the single long wrist blade from the poster is the BSP or am I being a bit thick? (if I am being thick don't be mean cuz you'd only be picking on a girl ;D)
Haha, actually no, the BSP is the one with the Jawbone on his mask, and the one in the poster.
The one with the tusks is just one of the Super Predators. ;D
jawbone on his mask or is it a part of his face?
On his mask.
Is BSP mask missing a bit at the bottom or is that part of the mask?
Last I checked I didn't think he was missing anything, it's just the Jawbone on his mask at the bottom.
That was my initial thought as well but it has different colourisation.
Thanks guys. BSP looks far better than I feared from reading the leaked script. I still think Mr Tusk is the sexiest mmmmmmmmmm yum yum.
I'll leave it up to you what I mean by sexiest ;)
I have issues.....
I hope the jaw bones (when onscreen) look like jaw bones/tusks but aren't too white. Thought it'd look cool if they were worn and grimy.
P.S. Something to do with them being so big and strong. Like it rough you see....
Quote from: Raven on Apr 03, 2010, 08:15:35 PM
Thanks guys. BSP looks far better than I feared from reading the leaked script. I still think Mr Tusk is the sexiest mmmmmmmmmm yum yum.
I'll leave it up to you what I mean by sexiest ;)
I have issues.....
erm hate to break this to you i read the scrip and tusk and BSP is same pred
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Quote from: Raven on Apr 03, 2010, 08:15:35 PM
Thanks guys. BSP looks far better than I feared from reading the leaked script. I still think Mr Tusk is the sexiest mmmmmmmmmm yum yum.
I'll leave it up to you what I mean by sexiest ;)
I have issues.....
erm hate to break this to you i read the scrip and tusk and BSP is same pred
Maybe in the script he is... In the film he's not...
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Quote from: Raven on Apr 03, 2010, 08:15:35 PM
Thanks guys. BSP looks far better than I feared from reading the leaked script. I still think Mr Tusk is the sexiest mmmmmmmmmm yum yum.
I'll leave it up to you what I mean by sexiest ;)
I have issues.....
erm hate to break this to you i read the scrip and tusk and BSP is same pred
You might wanna clean out your bong bro.
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Quote from: Raven on Apr 03, 2010, 08:15:35 PM
Thanks guys. BSP looks far better than I feared from reading the leaked script. I still think Mr Tusk is the sexiest mmmmmmmmmm yum yum.
I'll leave it up to you what I mean by sexiest ;)
I have issues.....
erm hate to break this to you i read the scrip and tusk and BSP is same pred
LMAO!
Is it possible for you to be more wrong?
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Quote from: Raven on Apr 03, 2010, 08:15:35 PM
Thanks guys. BSP looks far better than I feared from reading the leaked script. I still think Mr Tusk is the sexiest mmmmmmmmmm yum yum.
I'll leave it up to you what I mean by sexiest ;)
I have issues.....
erm hate to break this to you i read the scrip and tusk and BSP is same pred
Hate to break this to you but he isn`t in film nor in the script.
Anything that's called a SUPER predator has to awsome!
Only one thing that is awesome with the word super in it is SUPERMAN ;D
Quote from: Mike The Wolf on Apr 08, 2010, 04:45:20 PM
Only one thing that is awesome with the word super in it is SUPERMAN ;D
???????????????????????
Quote from: Raven on Apr 03, 2010, 10:37:23 PM
I hope the jaw bones (when onscreen) look like jaw bones/tusks but aren't too white. Thought it'd look cool if they were worn and grimy.
P.S. Something to do with them being so big and strong. Like it rough you see....
I know two other girls who want to make love to predators...
What is the deal?
As long as he keeps his mask on. No wait, off...... :-*
Quote from: Moody on Dec 19, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
Black super predator VS. Normal Predator, this I'd love to see:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.jasondunbar.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F07%2Fpredator3.jpg&hash=5206c9940234f6537394d1e3aeeaf00559f72dfb)
both have green blood... or are you taking about a potential pred on pred battle?
A battle between two predators in this film... i don`t think so...
There's 3 BSP in this film, not just ONE!
The Jawbone Predator, the Predator with the Aliendogs and the huge Predator with the teeth in his mask.
The black armor of the Jawbone Predator are the same of the other predators of the film.
There's only ONE BSP, the other two are just called Super Predators. We have the original pred in the film.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Apr 16, 2010, 05:49:10 PM
There's only ONE BSP, the other two are just called Super Predators. We have the original pred in the film.
It's pretty frustrating how often that actually has to be explained
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Quote from: Moody on Dec 19, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
Black super predator VS. Normal Predator, this I'd love to see:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.jasondunbar.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F07%2Fpredator3.jpg&hash=5206c9940234f6537394d1e3aeeaf00559f72dfb)
both have green blood... or are you taking about a potential pred on pred battle?
I wish the SP's had the netting on them and the netting like in this pic, I likes the look of it.
There will be the shuriken weapons? or the triple plasma caster???
???
I think that the inovations about the new weapons are good for the predators characters.
Yea minigun plasma caster? I was like no man thats lame but they are bad bloods and minigun plasma caster is maybe a wep used for war or a lot bigger prey or its use for killing preds
minigun plasma caster??
any pics?
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Apr 18, 2010, 09:19:01 PM
minigun plasma caster??
any pics?
There is no mini gun plasma caster.
In the script it says there is only a Tripod Plasmacaster and a Predator's version of a mini gun.
uh i read script skiped bout 50 pages so i mixed up some shit
Quote from: Travis on Apr 18, 2010, 09:48:33 PM
Quote from: Urban Hunter on Apr 18, 2010, 09:19:01 PM
minigun plasma caster??
any pics?
There is no mini gun plasma caster.
In the script it says there is only a Tripod Plasmacaster and a Predator's version of a mini gun.
actually im pretty sure it was a triple barrelled plasma caster that was pretty much an equivelent for a minigun.
The Shurikens and the Disk Gun must back!!! ;D
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minigun plasma caster??
any pics?
There is no mini gun plasma caster.
In the script it says there is only a Tripod Plasma caster and a Predator's version of a mini gun.
actually im pretty sure it was a triple barrelled plasma caster that was pretty much an equivelent for a minigun.
Spoiler
There is a triple barreled plasma caster, BSP has it. And then there is a Predator minigun, way before that scene, where Nikolai fires his minigun at one of the SP's, and it returns fire with a minigun of it's own.
Equivalent, sure, maybe. But not an actually minigun.
could you guys imagine a full auto plasm caster, or even a minigun style plasma caster. Made me think of that scene in AVP in the flashback when the Preds are on the pyramid with thousands of aliens coming at them. They really needed one of those for that situation.
Originally Posted by CelticP View Post
Plus, they want to keep the Black Super Predator's face a secret.
And what a cool face this guy has. I can't wait to see it in the movie.
By some sculptor over at Neca, he really likes the new face, by the way he doesn't like the AvP 1 preds, at all.
You gotta' link?
I tried to draw an BSP myself... not too happy though, especially with the mandibles...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fconceptart.org%2Fartimg%2Fgallus%2Fthumbgrid%2Ffullgrid.jpg%3F1272285241&hash=b69d8cb24abdb9d9a3500410850216ba1abc94c3)
Iiv always thought the BSP looked like this only in the face not body and darker color too since the concept art in the sneak peak had a similar head shape and the script described the BSP to have red furious eyes like an enraged disfigured being
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fimages%2Fmodel_kit_buildups%2Fwarlord%2Fwarl11.jpg%255Bimg%255D&hash=cac1009dac2f70ba677711c627f5162f25e39245)http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/images/model_kit_buildups/warlord/warl10.jpg[/img]
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fimages%2Fmodel_kit_buildups%2Fwarlord%2Fwarl11.jpg&hash=90d3b6ce798f51ca639bc6a6b055bf87c80eb4b8)
Quote from: Phlizz on Apr 27, 2010, 11:33:23 AM
I tried to draw an BSP myself... not too happy though, especially with the mandibles...
http://conceptart.org/artimg/gallus/thumbgrid/fullgrid.jpg?1272285241
Well done, I like the shadings... :) But is it me or the upper left mandible is kind of "pumped"? ???
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 12:50:47 PM
Iiv always thought the BSP looked like this only in the face not body and darker color too since the concept art in the sneak peak had a similar head shape and the script described the BSP to have red furious eyes like an enraged disfigured being
http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/images/model_kit_buildups/warlord/warl11.jpg[img]http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/images/model_kit_buildups/warlord/warl10.jpg[/img]
Can I say I hope it's not like that? :P
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelzone.com%2Fmangrasshopper%2Fimages%2Fmodel_kit_buildups%2Fwarlord%2Fwarl10.jpg&hash=9a1c66daf4df152f481f71eb3bed8da5441a997a)
fixed
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Apr 27, 2010, 10:47:32 AM
You gotta' link?
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71220&page=117
Somewhere in this forum, don't know the page anymore, the poster is "Tankman".
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 27, 2010, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: Phlizz on Apr 27, 2010, 11:33:23 AM
I tried to draw an BSP myself... not too happy though, especially with the mandibles...
http://conceptart.org/artimg/gallus/thumbgrid/fullgrid.jpg?1272285241
Well done, I like the shadings... :) But is it me or the upper left mandible is kind of "pumped"? ???
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 12:50:47 PM
Iiv always thought the BSP looked like this only in the face not body and darker color too since the concept art in the sneak peak had a similar head shape and the script described the BSP to have red furious eyes like an enraged disfigured being
http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/images/model_kit_buildups/warlord/warl11.jpg[img]http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/images/model_kit_buildups/warlord/warl10.jpg[/img]
Can I say I hope it's not like that? :P
well the BSP is a new concept to the franchise so u never know fingers crossed it wont look retarded even though its supposed to be :P
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 27, 2010, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Apr 27, 2010, 10:47:32 AM
You gotta' link?
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71220&page=117
Somewhere in this forum, don't know the page anymore, the poster is "Tankman".
here http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=collection&id=2&page=1 (http://www.modelzone.com/mangrasshopper/index.php?level=collection&id=2&page=1)
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
well the BSP is a new concept to the franchise so u never know fingers crossed it wont look retarded even though its supposed to be :P
It's
supposed to look retarded? :-\
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 27, 2010, 12:58:19 PM
Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Apr 27, 2010, 10:47:32 AM
You gotta' link?
http://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71220&page=117
Somewhere in this forum, don't know the page anymore, the poster is "Tankman".
Ok, thanks!
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 27, 2010, 01:04:21 PM
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
well the BSP is a new concept to the franchise so u never know fingers crossed it wont look retarded even though its supposed to be :P
It's supposed to look retarded? :-\
Im guessing u haven't read the script. They have a disfigured facial appearance in a more scary sense like the model i posted
So much for being Banned :D Cool.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Apr 27, 2010, 01:54:23 PM
So much for being Banned :D Cool.
dont start i have no idea how it happened and why the sign banned is still there its like a mark of shame everywhere i post people know ive been banned before or is currently banned
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 01:51:33 PM
Im guessing u haven't read the script. They have a disfigured facial appearance in a more scary sense like the model i posted
Disfigured =/= Retarded.
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 27, 2010, 02:17:27 PM
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 01:51:33 PM
Im guessing u haven't read the script. They have a disfigured facial appearance in a more scary sense like the model i posted
Disfigured =/= Retarded.
retarded would not seem right cause that would make them ummm mentally challenged its more being mutated. Like an outcast from a tribe or clan for being ugly or in some physical manner not looking so right but not less inteligent the SP are known to be more savage and ruthless
I know.
But you said:
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
well the BSP is a new concept to the franchise so u never know fingers crossed it wont look retarded even though its supposed to be :P
Or am I missing something? ???
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Apr 27, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
I know.
But you said:
Quote from: arabianhunter on Apr 27, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
well the BSP is a new concept to the franchise so u never know fingers crossed it wont look retarded even though its supposed to be :P
Or am I missing something? ???
by retarded i meant messed up in the face
Most of my fears about this film have been abated, but I'm still not sure about the 'mutant' preds and the black blood thing. From what we've seen of the new preds so far I think they look really good, just a bit concerned how the 'mutant' facial features are going to look. I'm hoping they'll still look like preds just 'scarier' somehow. The black blood thing though.....
I really hope the
Spoiler
plasma caster shooting bullets out the air WTF
from the script doesn't appear in the film.
Personally I think I'd prefer if the new preds were simply a different tribe with a slightly different/updated look and different values etc rather than mutants. I think they could probably pull off the mutant thing and not make it too terrible it's just that, well, I'm not too keen on it.
I still think BSP and the 2 SP's look awesome.
well since they are something new to the predator franchise theirs a likely chance they will look quite disfigured but look on the bright side its disfigured but in a more scary way they made them like that to kinda belittle the anytime predator
Well, it would be alot simpler just to call them Bad Blood.
But they weren't exactly bad bloods. They were just a larger species of Predators.
We call them BSP's because thats what they are. Bad Bloods are something entirely diffrent from the expanded universe. People call them Bad Bloods because they saw them fight a predator, that doe's not make them Bad Bloods.
Quote from: predatorfandrc90 on Jul 15, 2010, 11:54:01 PM
We call them BSP's because thats what they are. Bad Bloods are something entirely diffrent from the expanded universe. People call them Bad Bloods because they saw them fight a predator, that doe's not make them Bad Bloods.
A bad blood is a Predator who doesn't follow the Yautja code, the Yautja code is based on actions done by Anytime and Pussyface, mostly Anytimes actions in the movie.
So a bad blood is basically a Predator who doesn't blow himself up upon defeat, it doesn't skin it's prey at any time during a hunt, it doesn't collect trophies of it's killed prey, it targets unarmed prey who haven't shown any aggressive behavior. It hunts in a conflict free area and the area isn't hot. It hunts in a area who is unknown to the target.
So I would call the superpredators bad bloods because they abduct ppl and hunts them in a area they are unfamiliar with.
They kill unarmed Prey and they are at war with Anytimes race.
Both Yautja and Badbloods hunt us and we end up dead if they are successful.
The reason and set up behind their hunt is the only thing that separates them at this time, (from what I can tell).
Yautja kill for trophies under special conditions (heat and conflict), the Bad bloods/ Super predators seem to kill/hunt so that they may become better at it, so that they may improve as hunters/killers.
The Super predators being Bad Bloods doesn't really have such a big impact on the prey...
The Yautja will hunt and kill you for your skull,
The bad blood would hunt and kill you so it may become a better killer.