Quote from: shawsbaby on Dec 31, 2016, 01:04:31 AM
Which facts specifically are you referring to? I'd LOVE for the 4chan to be total BS since I spoiled it for myself ;-)
Well obvious fact - Juggernaut crashed on the planet; He mentioned that David bombed engineers with the goo why omitting the fact that he crashed just moments after the act of bombing. He described that very well, yet he somehow forgot to mention that crash.... MORE THAN SUSPICIOUS if you ask me.
4chan guy said we ll not learn anything new about Engineers while Ridley just said totally different story. Even Wayne Haag spoke about Engineers technology and how we ll learn much more about that than the ultimate origins of the Aliens. Wayne mentioned that the doors for ultimate interpretations of their origins will remain opened.
4chan guy said Philosophy will not be so present like in Prometheus except that prologue scene with David and Weyland and thats about philosophy. Now Ridley again spoke differently.
Full transcription of 4chan guys words...
THUS SPOKE 4CHAN GUY Spoiler
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-Main character is Katherine Waterston's Daniels but Billy Crudup, Danny McBride, and both androids get good screen time
-I liked it fine, it was pretty spooky/intense when they first arrive on the Engineer planet and the ending sequence. As a Prometheus sequel, people might get upset. They explain what happened to the Engineers and the mummified corpses you see in set pics but there's not too much followed up on apart from the setting and black goo stuff.
-Shaw is only in flashbacks when David finds the Covenant crew on the planet. She's dead before the movie begins and she sent the beacon the Covenant ship tracks to the planet.
-The Neomorphs are spooky and burst out of a guys back and another ones throat. They run on all fours at first then stand upright later on. They also have fang teeth and two spike things on their back they can shoot.
-I guess the only new monsters are the Neomorphs and some wildlife that has changed due to black goo exposure.
-Score in the rough cut was the original Alien 1979 score, they said the OST wasn't done.
-Sort of, he plays it straight this time (regarding characters) as an Alien film. Though some of the characters are generic like Prometheus.
-Engineer planet is not populated by anyone except David. It's pretty much Earth-like but with crazy storms. You get to see the Engineer citadel and the city left behind.
-No, it's the wildlife on the Engineer home world called Paradise. They are spores that send out an airborne version of the black goo basically when triggered. Those cause the Neomorphs
-(would you say the characters are comparable to Alien?) I wish I could. Honestly, there are only a couple characters I really liked but the whole cast wasn't memorable like Alien. Walter is great, Danny McBride's character Tennesse was cool, and Daniels.
-(How big is the budget?)
Doesn't seem like it's too big, somewhere around 120-150.
-Not that I remember, maybe a fly or something.
-Daniels is good, she reminds me of Ripley in the first Alien. Similar arc.
-David is a straight up villain yes. He's got a creepy shop of horrors underneath the Engineer citadel set up that you can see in pics I've posted in thread. Brownish looking room with failed experiments. Basically he *beep* over the Covenant crew when he finds them so he can use them for Xeno experiments. Also he doesn't like Walter.
-When David first tells the crew of Covenant what happened to Shaw, he claims she died when the Jockey ship crashed on the planet. Later we find out David killed her or exposed her to black goo for testing.
-The atmosphere and general tone felt the most like the original yeah, but also a bit of the intensity of Aliens because theres more than one creature running around.
-Ending was fine. I was a little confused, but it does set up a sequel.
-She (daniels) doesn't start off a badass but grows along the way
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-Engineer planet is pic related, they move through the forest and David finds them. From there they go to Engineer city and citadel. That's basically the location the whole movie.
-David saves the Covenant crew from a Neomorph attack in the forest and brings them to the Engineer citadel which is basically his home. He *beep* over the crew and gets people killed because he doesn't care about humans and wants to experiment.
-It's 10 years after Prometheus, David has been there the whole time. The Engineer planet was exposed to the black goo and it has affected the environment.
-David is able to somewhat communicate with the Neomorphs and wants to protect them
-The Neomorphs are the main creature up until the 3rd act. David is able to lure a character into his egg room and exposes them to a classic facehugger. This spawns the Proto-Xenomorph. It's not the classic one we know, but the closest to it. It is more animal in nature.
-It was just under 2 hours (runtime) I think. Rough cut looked good. Mostly practical stuff, real sets and on location filming. Just like Prometheus.
-It is more violent than Prometheus. The Neomorph bursting scene alone is more violent than that movie.
-Cinematography, set design, costumes, and everything looked great. I liked the locale of this film more. The forest setting was more interesting than the dull desert of Prometheus imo
-The Proto Xeno is basically like the Runner in Alien 3, but looks like the one from 1979 movie. Looked pretty cool, but a lot of the CGI wasn't finished on it.
-Deacon does not make an appearance
-I felt the pacing was a little off, and it moved fast in places but I guess those are my only complaints
-The Engineers are gone, at least on their home planet. David wipes them out.
-David creates a Proto Xenormorph by exposing someone to a classic facehugger, but it's not exactly the one we know. I guess he's responsible for the facehugger.
-Shaw is dead and David "dies" off screen
-The only stuff that was claustrophobic was the last 15 mins or so when they get back on the Covenant. My favorite action sequence was the Neomorph bursting scene that happens shortly after they land on Paradise, really intense. Also the Covenant stuff at the end was cool.
-Color tone of the movie I'm not sure how to answer. It was set on a planet with wildlife and Engineer structures.
- the Engineers are barely in the movie apart from corpses
-(philosophical and religious themes present?)Not much apart from the prologue with Weyland and David vs Walter later on
-Inside the Covenant, lighting was like some of the images I posted earlier with McBride and Ridley on the bridge. Blue ish with some corridors being grey and red.
-Space suits are closer to original film, bigger and not the bubble helmet design from Prometheus
-It ends with Tennesse and Daniels going back into cryo sleep for the long journey to their original destination before receiving beacon at Paradise. Walter closes their pods and goes down to the colonist bay wheres theres 2 thousand grown colonists and 1,300 embryos or something. Turns out he snuck two Proto Xeno embryos on the ship and puts them with the human embryos. He skips away and movie ends.(this one maybe false)
-David "dies" of screen after fight with Walter towards the end, Walter fights him because he tries to kill Daniels and Walter finds out David has been screwing them over the whole time.
-Shaw reattaches David's head during the flight to Paradise with David's help.
-I was confused by that myself. The whole film Walter seems to not like David screwing around with the Xenos or black goo then at the end it seems he has a change of heart.
-Proto Xeno is the result of David's experiments or at least the facehugger is.
-The crew have WY patches on their gear so I'm guessing in the 10 years between this and Prometheus, the merger happened.
-We unfortunately don't learn anything new about them. When the Juggernaut ship David and Shaw are in arrives at Paradise, David positions the ship above the Engineer citadel. Thousands of Engineers look up in the sky confused, then David unleashes the full cargo hold of black goo containers and it wipes out all of them. The corpses are mummified.
-The Covenant is massive and stays in a low orbit. The ship in these pics is a small drop ship the exploration team takes.
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-When David takes out the Engineers, Shaw is still asleep in one of the cryo pods on the Juggernaut. She goes in there and tells David to wake her up when they arrive. David does it behind her back. "To create, one must first destroy."
-At the end, a Proto Xeno is on board the Covenant. Daniels and Tennesse fight it and she has on the space suit, it's bulky(maybe false).