Started by Robotpo, Nov 20, 2007, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: Remonster on Nov 20, 2007, 10:47:44 PMI lost all interest at Colorado hicks in a hick town.
Quote from: Remonster on Nov 20, 2007, 10:47:44 PMI lost all interest in Colorado hicks in a hick town.
Quote from: DB on Nov 20, 2007, 10:59:52 PMThere is obviously a problem here. That problem is that you, Robotpo, you pathetic fool, do not realize that the Bros. are infallible and that it is you who is misunderstanding their words.When they said they were going back to the roots, they obviously meant that they were going into the roots of someone's arse, and pulling out whichever ideas were hardcore and badass enough to suit their superior (compared to yours) tastes.You... baboon! ^^ Yeah, it's probably what he says. They had me fooled, though...
Quote from: Robotpo on Nov 20, 2007, 10:42:23 PM-Characters. Original films, "Alien/Aliens/Predator/Predator 2," all had ADULT characters with unique professions/character arcs, involving motivations, and were played by, with the exception of Predator, talented actors. AVP-R has a bunch of Colorado hicks in a hick town who, instead of piloting deep-space ore refineries, deliver pizza
Quote-Locations. All of the previous Alien/Predator films had visually stimulating and detailed, well-conceived locations. Nostromo, Hadley's Hope, Fury 161, the Auriga, South American jungle, war-torn 1997 LA, Antarctica..now an unbelievably bland Colorado town, (which, like most productions shot in Canada, is bland as only a Canada-based production can be), and is poorly designed, shot and edited, from everything we've seen so far, (which is more than enough).
Quote-Themes. The Alien films all were more than met the eye, (especially the first two), and dealt with themes of sexuality, corporate maleficence, family, the nature of man, ETC. Even the first two Predator's had government conspiracy angles, making our "protectors," just as dangerous to the heroes as the Predator itself. AVP-R is obviously absent of all this more complex layering and metaphor in exchange for BAS-ASS chaotic gore and teenagers waggling their boobies at each other, (and possibly, the aliens)
QuoteSubtlety- The original films all had a fair amount of physiological horror and Lovecraftian unease. Alien and Aliens weren't gory at all; they established how destructive the creatures were, then let your mind fill in the blanks. AVP-R, well..does not. I'm very impressed with the CGI gore, though. Oh wait, no I'm not.
Quote-The creatures themselves. The Original Alien/predator films obviously defined how aliens and predators looked and behaved. AVP-R gives us the worst/cheapest-looking aliens ever, a Predator that's anorexic and doesn't even begin to have the character and charisma that Kevin Peter Hall endowed it with, and a PredAlien that looks like something from a d-level parody of "Alien." The creatures looked better 30 years ago.
Quote-Characters. Original films, "Alien/Aliens/Predator/Predator 2," all had ADULT characters with unique professions/character arcs, involving motivations, and were played by, with the exception of Predator, talented actors. AVP-R has a bunch of Colorado hicks in a hick town who, instead of piloting deep-space ore refineries, deliver pizza
Quote-Story. The original films all has original, classic stories of suspense and horror. Even the first AVP had a better plot than this. AVP-R seems to have no coherent narrative, and amounts to a bunch of unrelated incidents of people running around being attacked by aliens/predators in their hick town.
Quote-The cast and crew of the first Alien films were top-notch people who loved the craft and art of film, and who had genuinely interesting things to say in their work. Predator 1/2 also had the benefit of Stan Winston, Alan Silvestri, great cinematography, ETC. AVP-R has a bunch of 3rd and 4th rate actors who've been in a couple of 2nd-tier TV shows, a guy from the OC, the screenwriter of "Shaft," the composer of "Fast and the Furious 3," and two-first time directors who aspire to be the guy that did "300." Oy.
Quote from: PRAETORIAN MONSTER on Nov 21, 2007, 12:03:08 AMpretty rude thing to say about Kevin Peter Hall. he was phenominal at what he did.
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