Secret Predator Movie releasing in 2025!

Started by MudButt, Oct 24, 2024, 06:15:08 PM

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Mr.Turok

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 19, 2024, 11:31:29 AMNaru did have plot armor in the final fight. But that would have been the case if it was a he. Glover had a bit of one in P2's final fight too.
That's a point, many male leads got plot armor but somehow a woman lead getting the same is political according to reactionaries.
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I do wonder who Michael Biehn will portray in the film? Would be ironic if he was a soldier of OWLF hunting Predators. In all 3 series, a man facing down the big three, actual badass status right there.

Man it would be cool to have him fight alongside Dutch 2025 in the modern era under OWLF. Shame it will only be sweet dreams.

CANNON

Meh hunting predators - all this is to superhero for me.

Nightmare Asylum

I doubt we'll see anything OWLF in here. Seems to me like they're going for historical settings for all of the chapters, nothing contemporary.

CANNON

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 20, 2024, 12:59:11 PMI doubt we'll see anything OWLF in here. Seems to me like they're going for historical settings for all of the chapters, nothing contemporary.

Which in my opinion fits perfectly with the Predator film structure.

BigDaddyJohn

One of the period piece I would love to see is french middle ages. I really hope it is actually in this movie.

CANNON

Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Nov 20, 2024, 03:10:37 PMOne of the period piece I would love to see is french middle ages. I really hope it is actually in this movie.

That would be alot of fun, with a setting like Mont-Saint-Michel.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 20, 2024, 12:59:11 PMI doubt we'll see anything OWLF in here. Seems to me like they're going for historical settings for all of the chapters, nothing contemporary.
Could be yeah. Just would have been cool to see Arnie and Michael on the same side of a fight rather than the opposite.

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 20, 2024, 12:51:48 PMMeh hunting predators - all this is to superhero for me.
How? They got no powers and still at a disadvantage.

CANNON

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 21, 2024, 05:59:08 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 20, 2024, 12:59:11 PMI doubt we'll see anything OWLF in here. Seems to me like they're going for historical settings for all of the chapters, nothing contemporary.
Could be yeah. Just would have been cool to see Arnie and Michael on the same side of a fight rather than the opposite.

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 20, 2024, 12:51:48 PMMeh hunting predators - all this is to superhero for me.
How? They got no powers and still at a disadvantage.

Because the Predators are the superior species here, they are the hunters. Once you introduce the idea where humans hunt predators you've essentially destroyed what makes a Predator to begin with. Robbing them of their purpose and quite literally their name.

Nightmare Asylum

A Predator being stranded and hunted down in an environment that it isn't biologically suited for (somewhere cold, snowy) and struggling for survival would be an exciting twist on the standard tropes.

CANNON

CANNON

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Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 21, 2024, 11:56:20 AMA Predator being stranded and hunted down in an environment that it isn't biologically suited for (somewhere cold, snowy) and struggling for survival would be an exciting twist on the standard tropes.

I have to disagree - of course this is all just opinions but that's not something I personally would want to see, Predator is the hunter not the prey.

What I do think the deeper discussion truly is here at its core is, I guess the way it sounds from posts throughout the forum, is that certain people want change whether that be to the Predators themselves, the stories, the action, the face design, their hunting style, their codes - all in all new changes for a new predator, literally and figuratively. Maybe that some how relates to a new audience or new fans.
Where others like myself want to stick with what made the original films classics and Predators so special, sticking with the formula that has been proven and proven with established success. I want to see the Predator I know, new and unique but following the Winston design, in new stories but hunting the way we have seen in the originals. That is Predator.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 21, 2024, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 21, 2024, 05:59:08 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 20, 2024, 12:59:11 PMI doubt we'll see anything OWLF in here. Seems to me like they're going for historical settings for all of the chapters, nothing contemporary.
Could be yeah. Just would have been cool to see Arnie and Michael on the same side of a fight rather than the opposite.

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 20, 2024, 12:51:48 PMMeh hunting predators - all this is to superhero for me.
How? They got no powers and still at a disadvantage.

Because the Predators are the superior species here, they are the hunters. Once you introduce the idea where humans hunt predators you've essentially destroyed what makes a Predator to begin with. Robbing them of their purpose and quite literally their name.

It's not that its easy either lol. Both in the game and novel had expressed that despite learning how to combat Predators more efficiently, lots of people still die. It makes sense that humanity would catch wind of being hunted by an alien race and organization such as OWLF would emerge to combat it. We are an adaptable bunch. Just that again, it doesn't get that easier either.

CANNON

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 21, 2024, 03:02:32 PM
Quote from: CANNON on Nov 21, 2024, 11:40:55 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 21, 2024, 05:59:08 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 20, 2024, 12:59:11 PMI doubt we'll see anything OWLF in here. Seems to me like they're going for historical settings for all of the chapters, nothing contemporary.
Could be yeah. Just would have been cool to see Arnie and Michael on the same side of a fight rather than the opposite.

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 20, 2024, 12:51:48 PMMeh hunting predators - all this is to superhero for me.
How? They got no powers and still at a disadvantage.

Because the Predators are the superior species here, they are the hunters. Once you introduce the idea where humans hunt predators you've essentially destroyed what makes a Predator to begin with. Robbing them of their purpose and quite literally their name.

It's not that its easy either lol. Both in the game and novel had expressed that despite learning how to combat Predators more efficiently, lots of people still die. It makes sense that humanity would catch wind of being hunted by an alien race and organization such as OWLF would emerge to combat it. We are an adaptable bunch. Just that again, it doesn't get that easier either.

Listen, you are absolutely entitled to your opinion if that's the type of Predator movie you want to see. What I mentioned in a previous post sort of covers what I consider the disconnect between fans.

"What I do think the deeper discussion truly is here at its core is, I guess the way it sounds from posts throughout the forum, is that certain people want change whether that be to the Predators themselves, the stories, the action, the face design, their hunting style, their codes - all in all new changes for a new predator, literally and figuratively. Maybe that some how relates to a new audience or new fans.
Where others like myself want to stick with what made the original films classics and Predators so special, sticking with the formula that has been proven and proven with established success. I want to see the Predator I know, new and unique but following the Winston design, in new stories but hunting the way we have seen in the originals. That is Predator."

Mr.Turok

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 21, 2024, 03:17:24 PMMaybe that some how relates to a new audience or new fans.
The issue is that it hasn't since Predator 2. OWLF originated from that film and onwards had various stories of various organizations trying to hunt Predators. All of them failed of course as the ultimate hunter usually prevails. Simply that OWLF is that one organization that is a bit more successful than others. Other stories simply follow this foundation laid out. I mean eventually we have Dutch becoming a canon Predator Hunter.



It's simply there is nothing to go back to, we have long past that. We can still follow the formula but to say that people aren't capable of adapting and fighting back is also pure coping.

CANNON

CANNON

#208
Again I think our perspectives just differ on this subject. I only see the original films as my canon so to speak. They successfully established what a Predator is, the design, the hunting, the style, the nature as well as the films structure and formula. Hunting grounds (which I love the game) is just a game to me and holds no real relevance to canon.

OWLF was a fun addition to P2 but in the end they failed, outsmarted and out maneuvered. Predators are the superior species here, they are the hunters. Once you introduce the idea where humans hunt predators you've essentially destroyed what makes a Predator to begin with. Robbing them of their purpose and quite literally their name.

Its one thing when a human rises and stands against this superior species and wins but its another thing entirely when humans are now the superior force hunting the Predator. Predator by definition is, an animal that naturally preys on others.

Point is we wont see eye to eye on this subject, and to repeat what I mentioned in my other posts on this subject "What I do think the deeper discussion truly is here at its core is from the way it sounds from other posts throughout the forum, are that certain people want change whether that be to the Predators themselves, the stories, the action, the face design, their hunting style, their codes - all in all new changes for a new predator, literally and figuratively... Where others like myself want to stick with what made the original films classics and Predators so special, sticking with the formula that has been proven and proven with established success. I want to see the Predator I know, new and unique but following the Winston design, in new stories but hunting the way we have seen in the originals. That is Predator."

Mr.Turok

Mr.Turok

#209
Quote from: CANNON on Nov 21, 2024, 05:21:21 PMAgain I think our perspectives just differ on this subject. I only see the original films as my canon so to speak.
Aahhhhhhhh so you argue from headcanon then. Ok, then besides the last response down below, I just won't bother with this any further, I don't argue anyone's headcanon. I only engage with proven details of a story.

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 21, 2024, 05:21:21 PMThey successfully established what a Predator is, the design, the hunting, the style, the nature as well as the films structure and formula. Hunting grounds (which I love the game) is just a game to me and holds no real relevance to canon.

Well factually, this is not true:
New Footage Of Predator: Hunting Grounds Unveiled at Gamescom 2019
https://blog.playstation.com/2019/08/19/new-footage-of-predator-hunting-grounds-unveiled-at-gamescom-2019/

QuoteWhen we looked at this IP, it was really important to us that we stayed true to the canon already created in the Predator universe, but to also move it forward. It has been really great having everyone at Fox on hand to answer questions and riff and run things by. Especially since we have been given the unique opportunity that everything we make in this game becomes a part of the official Predator lore.

From the lore tapes that connects the films together, to the tidbits of new Predator studies done by OWLF, yes it is official canon to the lore. Both officialized by Illfonic and Fox/20th Century. It's fine if you don't want to believe it, I know I don't like Ridley's work myself, but it is what has been established that supplements what I have been discussing for quite sometime. I only argue from what is, not how some else wishes it to be.

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