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QuoteNearly a century after the rediscovery of King Tut's tomb ignited a worldwide craze for Egyptology, new findings could turn out to be almost as stunning: secret doors may conceal the burial chamber of Queen Nefertiti.

National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/09/150928-king-tut-tomb-door-nefertiti-archaeology-egypt/?sf13597893=1)

QuoteArchaeologists have discovered the remains of a massive stone monument buried under a thick, grassy bank only two miles from Stonehenge.

The hidden arrangement of up to 90 huge standing stones formed part of a C-shaped Neolithic arena that bordered a dry valley and faced directly towards the river Avon.

The Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/07/stonehenge-archaeology-ritual-arena-neolithic-monument)

QuoteArchaeologists excavating the famous 2,050-year-old Roman shipwreck off the remote island of Antikythera, Greece, have uncovered more than fifty new artifacts including a bronze armrest (possibly part of a throne), remains of a bone flute, pawn from an ancient board game, luxury ceramics and glassware.

Sci-News (http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/science-antikythera-shipwreck-new-artifacts-03279.html)

QuoteA serendipitous deal between a history museum and a smuggler has provided new insight into one of the most famous stories ever told: "The Epic of Gilgamesh."

The new finding, a clay tablet, reveals a previously unknown "chapter" of the epic poem from ancient Mesopotamia. This new section brings both noise and color to a forest for the gods that was thought to be a quiet place in the work of literature. The newfound verse also reveals details about the inner conflict the poem's heroes endured.

Discovery News (http://news.discovery.com/history/art-history/new-gilgamesh-verse-is-epic-15100.htm)   

QuoteA mechanical model of the Universe attributed to the ancient Greek mathematician and polymath Archimedes has been reconstructed after more than two millennia. The metallic globe, which reproduces the motions of the Sun, Moon and planets through the night sky, will be displayed for the first time at an exhibition in Basel, Switzerland, starting on 27 September.

Nature (http://www.nature.com/news/archimedes-legendary-sphere-brought-to-life-1.18431)

I'm sure that Stonehenge-adjacent arena won't be the last major Neolithic monument we find in England. There are processional causeways from the period all over the place, often leading away from spiritual sites like Stonehenge and Avebury, and in many cases we don't currently know where they lead. Unfortunately there's not a lot of funding for investigating British pre-Roman archaeology.

QuoteThe discovery provides yet more evidence that we may have underestimated the capabilities of our evolutionary cousins. The structures were made from hundreds of stalagmites, the mineral deposits which rise from the floors of caves. Dating techniques showed that they were broken off 175,000 years ago. The findings are reported in the journal Nature.

See more (http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-36381786)

QuoteGreek archaeologists at Ancient Stagira, Central Macedonia, say they have found Aristotle's tomb. Addressing the Aristotle 2400 Years World Congress, they point to the 2,400-year-old tomb as the most important finding from the 20-year excavation.

Watching thread with interest

QuoteKing Tut was buried with a dagger made of an iron that literally came from space, says a new study into the composition of the iron blade from the sarcophagus of the boy king.

See more (http://www.seeker.com/king-tuts-space-blade-identified-1831900657.html)

QuoteBETHLEHEM, West Bank—Silvia Starinieri, a young restoration technician, was slowly passing a thermographic camera over the smooth plaster walls of the Church of the Nativity, the traditional birthplace of Jesus Christ, when she spotted an intriguing shape.

See more (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/05/Greeks-Geographic-exhibit-ancient-treasure-Agamemnon-Alexander-archaeology-museum/church-of-nativity-bethlehem-restoration-mosaics-angel/)

QuoteFor millennia it remained an untouched paradise of giant baobab trees, strange birds and a unique group of primates called lemurs.

But around 2,000 to 1,000 years ago the first humans arrived on the enormous and eccentric island of Madagascar, just off the east coast of Africa.

Now researchers have discovered the first archaeological evidence for where these first human inhabitants of Madagascar may have come from – southeast Asia.

See more (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3616671/Did-humans-sail-3-700-miles-Asia-Madagascar-1-000-years-ago-Island-colonised-Austronesians.html)

QuoteSometimes you can find a real gem on eBay. The UK's National Museum of Computing at Bletchley Park certainly did: It spotted a Nazi teleprinter used during the war for sale on the site and bought it for just $15.

See more (http://gizmodo.com/nazi-teleprinter-from-world-war-ii-bought-on-ebay-by-mu-1779571607)

QuoteUsing an unprecedented technique of matching stars to the locations of temples on Earth, a 15-year-old Canadian student says he's discovered a forgotten Maya city in Mexico. Images from space suggest he may actually be onto something—but experts say it's something much simpler.

See more (http://gizmodo.com/teen-discovers-lost-maya-city-using-ancient-star-maps-1775735999)

Quote"I think scientists are jealous," the teen declared. "Sometimes they are scared of new ideas. They're afraid to have their established ideas criticized." Ultimately, Gadoury wants scientists "to have more open minds and to listen to other ideas."

See more (http://gizmodo.com/teen-who-discovered-lost-maya-city-says-scientists-ar-1780343549)

QuoteAn underwater "lost city" appearing to boast colonnades and courtyards has turned out to be nothing more than the aftermath of a gas leak.

When divers first spotted the structures in shallow water off the Greek island of Zakynthos in 2013 they thought they had discovered the ruins of a long-forgotten civilisation.

However, new research published today reveals the site was created by a natural geological phenomenon that took place up to five million years ago in the Pliocene era.

See more (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/03/lost-city-in-greece-actually-the-aftermath-of-a-gas-leak/)

QuoteFor more than 4,500 years, Egypt's pyramids have kept their secrets hidden deep within the labyrinth of passages and chambers that lie inside their towering stone structures.

But the long-running row over whether the Great Pyramid of Giza is hiding a network of previously undiscovered tunnels behind its stone walls could soon finally be answered.

A group of researchers who have been using cosmic particles known as muons to scan the Great Pyramid of Giza have said they expect to finish their work later this month.

See more (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3623671/What-hiding-wonder-world-Scans-using-cosmic-particles-reveal-secrets-Great-Pyramid-Giza.html)

QuoteMore than a dozen tunnels have been found in Cornwall, England, that are unique in the British Isles. No one knows why Iron Age people created them. The fact that the ancients supported their tops and sides with stone, suggests that they wanted them to endure, and that they have, for about 2,400 years.

See more (http://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/more-dozen-mysterious-prehistoric-tunnels-cornwall-england-mystify-researchers-020858)

QuoteRemains of at least three tiny humans dating to 700,000 years ago have been found on the Indonesian island of Flores, which was the homeland of Homo floresiensis, aka "Hobbit Humans," according to two new papers in the journal Nature.
The newly found early humans, represented by a partial right jaw and some isolated teeth, predate the Hobbits by more than half a million years, the papers report. Their presence on the island suggests that the small individuals were part of a population that later gave rise to the Hobbits, whose fossils were previously discovered at Flores' Liang Bua cave.

See more at Seeker (http://www.seeker.com/700000-year-old-tiny-humans-found-at-hobbit-homeland-1847236701.html)

QuoteAn enormous monument has been hiding in plain sight at the World Heritage site of Petra, according to a study recently published in the Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research.

Archaeologists Sarah Parcak, a National Geographic fellow, and Christopher Tuttle, executive director of the Council of American Overseas Research Centers, used high-resolution satellite imagery followed by aerial drone photography and ground surveys to locate and document the structure.

See more at National Geographic (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/06/space-archaeology-satellite-petra-ancient-city-discovery-jordan-monument/)

QuoteDiamond miners recently discovered a ship that went down 500 years ago after draining a man-made lagoon on Namibia's coast. While shipwrecks are often found along Africa's Skeleton Coast, this one just so happened to be loaded with $13,000,000 worth of gold coins.

It also answers a centuries–old mystery and is what some archaeologists are calling one of the most significant shipwrecks ever found.

See more at FOX NEWS (http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/06/07/500-year-old-shipwreck-loaded-with-gold-found-in-namibian-desert.html)

QuoteFire arrows are in everything from Gladiator to Braveheart to Game of Thrones. The good guys stretch their bows in unison and rain flaming death en masse onto the opposing army, looking like total badasses the whole time. But like so many things on this terrible planet, fire arrows are too good to be true and almost no Medieval army actually used them in open warfare.

See more at Sploid (http://sploid.gizmodo.com/sorry-but-medieval-armies-probably-didnt-use-fire-arrow-1781748322)

Wild speculation below...

QuoteAlberto Nadgar Rojas, researcher, visual artist, and photographer, defends the existence in northern Chile of an ancient civilization of giants as a hypothesis to explain what may be the biggest geoglyphs in the world. He explained to Ancient Origins that some geoglyphs are atypical because they contain many designs and predominantly geometric forms, in comparison to the classical anthropomorphic geoglyphs of the Inca culture.

See more at Ancient Origins (http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-mysterious-phenomena/loa-giants-impressive-and-enigmatic-geoglyphs-northern-chile-005958)

QuoteArchaeologists in Cambodia have found multiple, previously undocumented medieval cities not far from the ancient temple city of Angkor Wat, the Guardian can reveal, in groundbreaking discoveries that promise to upend key assumptions about south-east Asia's history.

See more at The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/11/lost-city-medieval-discovered-hidden-beneath-cambodian-jungle)

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QuoteThe researchers described the machine as a kind of philosopher's instructional device. The new analysis confirms that the mechanism displayed planets, while also showing the position of the sun and the moon in the sky. But while the device had a definite astronomical purpose, it appears the machine was also used to see what the future holds. The researchers suspect this because some of the inscriptions on the device refer to the color of a forthcoming eclipse.

See more at Gizmodo (http://gizmodo.com/the-world-s-oldest-computer-may-have-been-used-to-predi-1781749625)

QuoteAny pilgrims visiting Vatican City will spend some time in the Raphael Rooms. Decorated with iconic frescoes by Raphael and the artists of his workshop, these reception rooms in the Palace of the Vatican have left generations of tourists awestruck. They may also have inspired awe in the less high-minded.

According to legend, these Vatican showrooms, the apartments of the popes, once contained the now-lost artwork for the western world's first pornographic blockbuster.

See more at Atlas Obscura (http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/europes-first-pornographic-blockbuster-was-made-in-the-vatican)

QuoteThe Great Pyramid of Giza may be a Wonder of the Ancient World, but it's not perfect: Its base is a little lopsided because its builders made a teensy mistake when constructing it, new research reveals.

The west side of the pyramid is slightly longer than the east side, scientists have found. Although the difference is very slight, it's enough that a modern-day research team, led by engineer Glen Dash and Egyptologist Mark Lehner, was able to detect the small flaw in a new measuring project.

QuoteArchaeologists have unearthed an elongated skull in a grave belonging to the ancient Silla culture of Korea, which experts say was NOT deliberately flattened through the practice of cranial deformation.

The skull was found in the grave of a woman near Gyeongju, which was once the historical capital of the Silla Kingdom that reigned over most of the Korean peninsula for nearly 1,000 years from 57 B.C. to A.D. 935.

QuoteDan Brown, who gave us tomes like The Da Vinci Code and Angels & Demons, and words like "symbologist," is donating €300,000, or around $337,500, to a Dutch library with a vast collection of books and other materials about ancient mysticism, according to the Guardian.

QuoteThe massive megaliths at Stonehenge have fascinated scholars and tourists for centuries, but one of the most enduring mysteries about the site is how the ancient builders of the monument moved the giant stones into place — some more than 100 miles (160 kilometers) from where they were quarried.

In the Middle Ages, a legend arose that Stonehenge was built by giants on the orders of the wizard Merlin, as a tomb for British nobles who were slain by the invading Saxons. Now, a group of university students in the United Kingdom has come to grips, literally, with how the Neolithic people of Britain might have transported the huge stones over such distances. Using only rope, wood and stone tools, in front of a cheering crowd in a park in central London last month, they put their theories — and their muscles — to the test.

In an archaeological experiment that combined the public demonstration with feats of strength, dozens of students joined an effort to haul a sycamore-wood sled carrying a 1-ton stone block over a wooden trackway. The experiment took place in Gordon Square, which is located next to the University College London (UCL) Institute of Archaeology.

QuoteThe talented pilots and cinematographers of France's BigFly skillfully piloted a camera-equipped drone through the sanctuary of the 137-year-old Église Saint-Louis de Paimbœuf. Given the church is filled with priceless art and architecture, the skills needed to ensure the drone didn't hit anything are easily as impressive as the stunning footage they captured.

https://twitter.com/PopMech/status/1062730951258595330

https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1063559900889051136

Grain of salt alert...

https://twitter.com/ScienceAlert/status/1062528370586607616

https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1083817730615230465

https://twitter.com/PopMech/status/1095400899063754753

Anyone watching Bright Insight videos on Youtube? Lots of interesting speculation there - guy basically claims that many of the perplexing ancient sites, such as the pyramids, the City of Petra in Jordan, or the recently discovered Gobekli Tepe, are a work of civilizations that existed prior to the cataclysm inaugurated by an asteroid hitting the Earth approx. 12.000 years ago (that the latter happened is now confirmed - there's the crater in Iceland). Kinda like the Ancient Aliens stuff, except, you know, without the ancient aliens part. He certainly raises a lot of interesting questions as to what kind of knowledge would have been needed to build some of these sites, as well as to what their original purpose could be. Granted, I haven't watched all his videos, so it's possible that some historical quackery slips in now and then, but from what I've seen so far, the dude isn't just some sensationalist loon/fraudster.  His videos on Atlantis are certainly captivating and if nothing else, he draws attention to things a layperson is probably unaware of.

The disappearance of the Amazon cities remind me of Alien: Covenant.

https://twitter.com/NewsfromScience/status/1176973327354793984

https://twitter.com/TheNationalUAE/status/1243549586892812288?s

Colossus of Rhodes, Greece

(https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BB164gt6.img?h=552&w=750&m=6&q=60&u=t&o=f&l=f)

"This mighty statue wasn't called the Colossus of Rhodes for nothing. Taking 12 years to build between c.294-282 BC, the bronze sculpture of the Greek sun-god Helios stood in Rhodes harbor at a whopping 105 feet (32m)

The statue was destroyed by an earthquake just over half a century later in c.225 or 226 BC and was left in a state of disrepair for another 800 years. It was melted down and sold for scrap metal during the 7th century, after Arabian forces conquered the island. It took roughly 900 camels to carry all the metal away."

I bet it was an ancient robot (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automaton#:~:text=There%20are%20many%20examples%20of,employed%20gold%20and%20silver%20watchdogs.) like Talos. Probably damaged as he couldn't defend himself.

(https://i.ibb.co/J3kh1QJ/thalos.gif)

You actually fight him In God of War 2. It's one of my favorite boss fights.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/17/72/ff/1772ff75567c0bc011f67a41122f549c.jpg)

Workers in Athens find ancient head of the Greek god Hermes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/workers-in-athens-find-ancient-head-of-the-greek-god-hermes/a-55677876

At least the finds weren't gold members  :laugh:

Quote from: New York TimesTwo of the people buried there had golden tongues nestled in their jawbones. According to a statement from the ministry, the tongues were meant to ensure that the deceased people would be able to "speak in the afterlife."

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1357060086770900995

cool thread. Our origins and world history is fascinating. Imagine what we don't or will never know.

This Norwegian band of folk music ~ with shamanic-looking members, who use bones (among other things) as musical instruments, bring the sounds of the ancient Germanic peoples.



I also love Jonna Jinton's channel; a Swedish artist who shares her music and her paintings, but also she dedicates her videos to show what her life is like in the natural places of Sweden:









In that last video she visited the U-shaped mountainous valley called Lapporten (gates to Laponia).


Lapland is home to the Sámi people.They have a rich culture that includes music (Yoiks), art, a semi-nomadic reindeer herding, but also games! as Sáhkku and Tablut  8)


Before being assimilated by the Scandinavians, their religion was a form of polytheistic animism, which included shamanic practices in worship of ancient spirits and deities such as the goddess Rana Niejta.


I'm not too much into religion, but what I like is that they seems to be more focused in individual spiritual progress and nature like in Tibetan Buddhism.

Quote from: razeak on Feb 11, 2021, 07:46:39 PM
cool thread. Our origins and world history is fascinating. Imagine what we don't or will never know.

Here is an interesting video that tackles the ancient past from a more philosophical perspective. Also, how the "archaeologists" of the future would recreate our current present.

The bird and the tree are fake, but the place is real: Sigiriya, the ancient rock fortress located from Sri Lanka.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNSaaG2jWip/?igshid=iojhsmkagumz

Göbekli Tepe: oldest temple structure ever found (11 000 years old) from a time when humans were still supposed to be hunter/gatherers.

(https://alltourstoturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gobekli-tepe.jpg)

(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eleni-Asouti/publication/322508486/figure/fig9/AS:614081748811789@1523419906476/T-shaped-pillars-from-Enclosure-D-at-Goebekli-Tepe-images-courtesy-of-the-late-Klaus.png)

Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Apr 07, 2021, 09:39:11 PM
Göbekli Tepe: oldest temple structure ever found (11 000 years old) from a time when humans were still supposed to be hunter/gatherers.

https://alltourstoturkey.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/gobekli-tepe.jpg

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Eleni-Asouti/publication/322508486/figure/fig9/AS:614081748811789@1523419906476/T-shaped-pillars-from-Enclosure-D-at-Goebekli-Tepe-images-courtesy-of-the-late-Klaus.png

According to new theories of scholars, it is the other way around: the construction of architectural wonders served as fuel for the creation of more complex societies.

Quote from: SmithsonianmagTo Schmidt and others, these new findings suggest a novel theory of civilization. Scholars have long believed that only after people learned to farm and live in settled communities did they have the time, organization and resources to construct temples and support complicated social structures. But Schmidt argues it was the other way around: the extensive, coordinated effort to build the monoliths literally laid the groundwork for the development of complex societies.

▶Gobekli Tepe: The World's First Temple?

And yet, this dark gap of ancient human prehistory is an interesting subject indeed. I don't believe however that it involves aliens, although believers would say something like "absence of evidence is not evidence of absence" which falls into the Non-falsifiable territory. I.e, something that cannot be ascertained whether it is true or wrong. And of course we have philosophical razors such as the Occam's razor or the Newton's flaming laser sword to cut the weeds that don't let us see what is there. Although basically they tell us that the simplest answer tends to be the correct one or that when it comes to non-falsifiables, it is not worth investing any intellectual effort at all.

What I do agree on is how difficult it is to know what happened in the past, especially in the ancient past, through reproducible observations.

So with that in mind ...

Is it possible that a civilization older than the first human civilizations that we know of existed?

I think it's possible though Non-falsifiable. Anyway, here are a couple of interesting videos that put this in perspective.




To admit that I kind of like the idea of a pre-human civilization  8) although not necessarily a space alien culture but maybe a terrestrial civilization, just not of the homo sapiens species.  :-X

Quote from: WikipediaAccording to Frank and Schmidt, since fossilization is relatively rare and little of Earth's exposed surface is from before the quaternary time period, the chances of finding direct evidence of such a civilization, such as technological artifacts, is small. After a great time span, the researchers concluded, contemporary humans would be more likely to find indirect evidence such as anomalies in the chemical composition or isotope ratios of sediments. Objects that could indicate possible evidence of past civilizations include plastics and nuclear wastes residues buried deep underground or on the ocean floor.

▶Silurian hypothesis


Oh and yeah, I find this cool fan art called Ancient Ritual by Marcel van Vuuren 👀

"A hybrid set inspired by Göbekli Tepe, Geo-thermals and Australia's Aboriginal culture."

It's a bit funny that now you are the one who starts mentioning aliens  ;D
I'm not getting into any theories. All I'm convinced of is that there are more similar things still hidden.

I'll check out the videos later.

Nice art. Especially that first peace.

If you're bored and like to nerd out, you might like Graham Hancock's latest book.

Audio
https://archive.org/details/abelc

PDF (includes some nice pictures)
https://archive.org/details/america-before-the-key-to-earths-lost-civilization-a-new-investigation-into-the-

What are your thoughts on the "handbag" symbol?

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I don't know, you tell me. I promise I won't mess you up with my square skepticism.

I got no idea and did no research.
Thought you might have read about it before and could share your knowledge or personal theories.

Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Apr 12, 2021, 07:23:48 PM
I got no idea and did no research.
Thought you might have read about it before and could share your knowledge or personal theories.

It's just a ceremonial artifact.

(https://i.ibb.co/ThjK9T7/4075-jpg.webp)

QuoteThis is a close-up image of an Assyrian bucket (banduddu) held by a protective spirit (Apkallu). During certain ceremonies, this bucket was filled with a fluid and the Apkallu dips a pine cone (mullilu) into it; the Apkallu then sprinkles the Assyrian king and his courtiers to purify them. The "standard inscription" of Ashurnasirpal II runs horizontally across the upper part of the relief. From the north-west palace of the Assyrian king Ashurnasirpal II at Nimrud (ancient Kalhu; Biblical Calah). From Mesopotamia, modern-day Iraq. Neo-Assyrian period, 875-860 BCE. The Sulaymaniyah Museum, Iraq.

▶World History Encyclopedia (https://www.worldhistory.org/image/4075/assyrian-ceremonial-bucket-banduddu/)

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Apr 13, 2021, 01:51:24 AMIt's just a ceremonial artifact.

Thanks for the info  :)

Still interesting they used the same in ancient Americas.

Mount Nemrut, Turkey

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Rego Grande, Brazil

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(https://stanflouride.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/screen-shot-2016-12-19-at-3-18-55-pm.png)

Quote from: Trash Queen on May 10, 2021, 10:15:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcrV5hc5k3U

I feel like a Minoan. I like to wear light clothes and short shorts because I feel more comfortable and agile lol  ;D

Great video.  8)

Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on May 10, 2021, 04:22:26 AM
Mount Nemrut, Turkey

https://www.pandotrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Untitled-106.jpg

https://www.pandotrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Untitled-1112-740x495.jpg

https://www.pandotrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Untitled-127-740x555.jpg

https://www.pandotrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Coolbiere.-A.-740x494.jpg

Alexander the Great conquered that territory I think. 🤔

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S7Bb0Qg-oE

A buddy watched some tv show where they recreated an medieval dish: it was a chicken, in a phaesant in a turkey. Anyway, 3 different birds.
End result was supposed to be pretty bad.

Somewhat related:
I'm foggy on the details but supposedly for a long period of time beverages contained mushoorms (psychodelics). Due to some change it became less mushroom-y and more typical alcohol, leading to a general way of thought and behaviour.

There's a Joe Rogan Experience episode (yeah, I know, Joe Rogan) starring a "crypto" historian talking about all kinds of stuff like that.
True or false, there's some intersting stuff.
Used to be on youtube, now only on spotiy. Here's the link should care.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0FwCgmkG2Cfb36etijDIho

Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on May 12, 2021, 05:16:41 AM
A buddy watched some tv show where they recreated an medieval dish: it was a chicken, in a phaesant in a turkey. Anyway, 3 different birds.
End result was supposed to be pretty bad.

Somewhat related:
I'm foggy on the details but supposedly for a long period of time beverages contained mushoorms (psychodelics). Due to some change it became less mushroom-y and more typical alcohol, leading to a general way of thought and behaviour.

There's a Joe Rogan Experience episode (yeah, I know, Joe Rogan) starring a "crypto" historian talking about all kinds of stuff like that.
True or false, there's some intersting stuff.
Used to be on youtube, now only on spotiy. Here's the link should care.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0FwCgmkG2Cfb36etijDIho

Oh yeah, the somewhat controversial Mr. Hancock. I think he gave a new age TED talk on the use of ayahuasca.  :laugh:

I don't want to try that hallucinogen, but when it comes to psychedelic experience I prefer a more science oriented  experience like the one of Michael from Vsauce. He claims to have seen colorful fractal patterns and a maya-like pyramid among other things, and apparently the experience can be both; terrifying & fascinating. Even so, I find interesting the "ego dissolution" concept (a.k.a Ego death) and how that might be a rebirth of our true self, produced by psychedelic substances and their neurotransmitter-like properties that apparently turn off parts of our brain, allowing us to have a naked perception of reality. Such a topic in particular is addressed in the first Vsauce video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3lWVLuc6CE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eP8yDXHn1o

I'll see if I listen to the podcast later.

Edit ~ Edit: one wonders how many religious prophets were under the psychedelic effect when they sighted their ancient aliens. gods 🤔

It's more about the other guy: Brian Muraresku who researched everything from a religious point.
Might remember wrong but his theory is that most religions (if not all) origin from a single ancient one.
Hancock is about civilizations orginating from one ancient one.
So the subject overlap in parts.
True or not, it's interesting if you're into that sort of stuff.

Hancock is about getting high.  :laugh:

"My first investigation of an ancient mystery was "The Sign and The Seal: A Quest for the Lost Ark of the Covenant", which I began to research seriously in 1987, shortly after getting into cannabis. "The Sign and The Seal" was published in 1992. During the writing of that book it was my habit to smoke cannabis only in the evenings for an hour or two before going to bed, but things changed from 1992 onwards when I began to work on my next non-fiction historical mystery "Fingerprints of the Gods". This was when I began to smoke cannabis all day long and to experiment with writing while I was stoned. I liked the result and it soon became my practice to light up my first joint (or pipe if it was hash) the moment I sat down at my desk in the morning and then just to carry on smoking all day long until I went to bed – often in the small hours of the morning. This remained my habit thereafter – smoking continuously from morning to night, whether writing or not, and gradually seeking out stronger and stronger strains of the herb."

▶Giving up the Green Bitch: Reflections on Cannabis, Ayahuasca and the mystery of plant teachers (https://grahamhancock.com/giving-up-the-green-bitch-hancock/)


Also...

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Brian Muraresku doesn't seem to be a Scholar. He looks like a Ben Shapiro's younger brother. Well, it's not like Graham Hancock is one anyway.  :-\ I'm not a scholar either, but I don't need to be one to know that they suck.  :laugh:

Thought he basically quit and now only smokes (eats) on occasion.

I don't care about their status but more about their theories and (possible) findings.
Hancock was written off for thinking there were big complex societies in the Amazon, which later turned out to be true with all the lydar scans.

Not sure what the person's looks have anything to do with it.
And I can get the scholar thing, but it's not like you can study something on your own.

Edit: There's JRE episode with Hancock, Randall Carlson (geologist) AND Michael Schermer from Skeptic.Com.
Not to prove or disprove any point, just interesting imo.

 ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVfttDdtN2A

"No, we know everything about the past"

said no historian or academic ever.

Yisus madness, the fandom of this woo-woo magician give me goosebumps  :laugh:

Immortan.Jonesy/skeptic.analyse:Freddy.Silva.exe

Got a new documentary by him so I'm curious as to what your sources have to say  :)

Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Jun 30, 2021, 04:28:05 AM
Immortan.Jonesy/skeptic.analyse:Freddy.Silva.exe

Got a new documentary by him so I'm curious as to what your sources have to say  :)

Wikipedia says this is called a neuralizer. It's a gift from some friends from outta town.

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Now that I honestly need your knowledge and skepticism, you make some MIB reference.
Been hitting the devil's lettuce again?

Sorry, I've been feeling a little lazy in these days.  ;D I don't have too much knowledge to be honest.  :-\ More than anything I practice critical thinking.  :-X

Since she was mentioned in the first post, check out this episode of the Highlander Series that has Nefertiri in the episode "Pharaoh's Daughter." Her adapting to the 21st century is really humorous, "silence slave!" and "how can anyone walk in these (heels)."

Found a new documentary which is bound to be 100% correct  ;D

"Explore evidence of colossal, biblical Giants that once towered over man in a mysterious realm of our ancient past that is far stranger than any fiction."

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True or not, the documentary above wasn't that bad.
It's about possible giants (=taller than average humans) that may have lived on Earth.
One case, the San Diego giant, is kinda interesting. About a giant mummy, bought by the Smithsonian, tested, deemed false and never seen again.

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Up next:

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I only know this one.  ;D

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA5Hw4jAqWQ

But apparently, the humanoid giants are not very scientifically plausible.  :-\

Consequently, most animals show allometric scaling with increased size, both among species and within a species. The giant creatures seen in monster movies (e.g., Godzilla, King Kong, and Them!) are also unrealistic, given that their sheer size would force them to collapse.

▶Square–cube law (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square%E2%80%93cube_law)

Galileo begins Two New Sciences with the striking observation that if two ships, one large and one small, have identical proportions and are constructed of the same materials, so that one is purely a scaled up version of the other in every respect, nevertheless the larger one will require proportionately more scaffolding and support on launching to prevent its breaking apart under its own weight. He goes on to point out that similar considerations apply to animals, the larger ones being more vulnerable to stress from their own weight...

▶Why Giants Don't Exist (https://galileoandeinstein.phys.virginia.edu/lectures/scaling.html)

Quote from: Baron Von Marlon on Aug 08, 2021, 02:47:15 AM
True or not, the documentary above wasn't that bad.
It's about possible giants (=taller than average humans) that may have lived on Earth.
One case, the San Diego giant, is kinda interesting. About a giant mummy, bought by the Smithsonian, tested, deemed false and never seen again.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0Q6-m3WoAEvxiO.jpg)

Isn't that mummy one of the Si-Te-Cah? a legendary culture of red-haired giants of cannibalistic habits among Native americans mythos.   :o

Definitely nightmare fuel for a horror movie. 👻

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Aug 08, 2021, 04:29:02 AM
Isn't that mummy one of the Si-Te-Cah? a legendary culture of red-haired giants of cannibalistic habits among Native americans mythos.   :o

Definitely nightmare fuel for a horror movie. 👻

Don't you mean fake mummy ;) ? Yeah, I think it was related to Native American stories. Turns out lots of cultures have their own mythos on giants.

I'd say see the docu for yourself  ;D Whatever you believe, it's full of Prometheus influences which are interesting enough by themselves imo.

Quote from: SmithsonianMagArthur's Stone, an enigmatic rock burial in Herefordshire, England, is one of the United Kingdom's most famous Stone Age monuments. Now, reports Carly Cassella for Science Alert, excavations carried out near the tomb—named for its supposed ties to King Arthur—have shed light on its beginnings, revealing that Neolithic people built it as part of an intricate ceremonial landscape.

https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1432814221805252608

What are your thoughts on the ancient Siberian bracelet?
Supposed to be the oldest piece of jewelry ever found. And proof that early humans were more advanced than assumed.

QuoteStartling new scientific evidence is to be reviewed by international experts which - if true - would transform our knowledge of the skills and sophistication of early man.

Quote"The ancient master was skilled in techniques previously considered not characteristic for the Palaeolithic era, such as easel speed drilling, boring tool type rasp, grinding and polishing with a leather and skins of varying degrees of tanning," Derevyanko said.

https://siberiantimes.com/science/casestudy/features/could-this-stunning-bracelet-be-65000-to-70000-years-old/

https://www.archaeology.org/news/3270-150507-siberia-denisovan-bracelet

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21,000 - 23,000-Year-Old Human Footprints Discovered in New Mexico

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http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/americas-oldest-known-human-footprints-10100.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJL0XoNBaac

https://twitter.com/Gizmodo/status/1513939267881381888

https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1527016520337039360

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUXIPElqJZ4

Medieval madness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEDdjKGiMgk

How am I JUST finding out this thread exists damn

https://twitter.com/tipheret/status/1567037256057094144

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq0Ex_qCKeQ

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Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 01, 2022, 06:44:41 PM

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▶The Lloyds Bank coprolite
(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thevintagenews.com/2019/10/02/lloyds-bank-coprolite/amp/%3fprebid_ab=enabled)

This seems to show a time of abundance.

Quote from: Shinawi on Jan 12, 2023, 11:12:42 PM

Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Nov 01, 2022, 06:44:41 PM

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▶The Lloyds Bank coprolite
(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thevintagenews.com/2019/10/02/lloyds-bank-coprolite/amp/%3fprebid_ab=enabled)

This seems to show a time of abundance.

Yup 😂 haha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os-VVTJ_l34
at 5:02 a plaster cast of napoleons face the day after he died. sorry not exactly ancient world but didnt know where else to share it.

sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFXx_XFbgJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PADK6Qq2hgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shoWLpGmVJM

https://twitter.com/SPSalisbury/status/1628378260772904960

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1631327830280744964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLOQDXgt8Mc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oens3_k3xmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqz4-J4Ow3c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZiQ_LFRvBU

AI 👀👉👈

Spoiler

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https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1691680230656684430

https://twitter.com/ConversationUS/status/1698454711483892077

X is also the ancient Roman numeral for ten.

https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1699400392193233052

https://twitter.com/historyinmemes/status/1700644510190158152

Ridley should have made this instead of The Last Duel ;D

https://twitter.com/Nature/status/1701900670431793199

https://twitter.com/Jerusalem_Post/status/1707947120182137041

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https://twitter.com/guardianscience/status/1710284665511436400

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9w-i5oZqaQ

https://twitter.com/NatGeo/status/1712256768581968255

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1719382139316125880

https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1725266242255143159

https://twitter.com/ScienceAlert/status/1724746242905821368

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Quote from: The Medieval BestiaryThe beast list includes all of the beasts found in Bestiaries and the Physiologus, as well as many from Medieval encyclopedias and some from other sources. It does not include beasts from non-European sources unless those beasts are the basis of Bestiary, Physiologus, or other Western beast legends.

▶️ Beast Index - Alphabetic

https://twitter.com/KiloFxTrot/status/1727244776943002078

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DgnmI88pW8

https://twitter.com/albedojourney/status/1733250601151016968

Hunter gatherers, or so we are told, constructed Gobekli Tepe almost 12000 years ago with some of the upright T-stones weighing twenty or thirty tons...so this wouldn't be   more implausible than that

Moving heavy rocks was not impossible for the ingenuity of ancient humans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvvES47OdmY

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https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1741804526410039803

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QziP4Rkd2wI

Oh, Mr. nonsense Hancock 👏::)

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Zahi Hawass is a true academic, but an insufferable asshole who shouldn't even be loved by his mother.

😒👉👈

https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1745544144544755848

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G3EREY2asM

https://twitter.com/notesfrompoland/status/1747234539896979705

https://twitter.com/physorg_com/status/1750127935174959499

https://twitter.com/archeohistories/status/1751914339827961996

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https://twitter.com/AndyVermaut/status/1757452215307186604

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https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1769454918371283155

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o2fnTNxE_Q

"How Korea Defended against the Mongols - Medieval History"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_uV1ijx1ec

https://twitter.com/SmithsonianMag/status/1777424417578000887

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DL1_EMIw6w