Poll
Question:
Choose which Pred is the most overated
Option 1: Anytime
Option 2: City Hunter
Option 3: P2 Elder
Option 4: Scar
Option 5: Celtic
Option 6: Gill/Chopper
Option 7: AVP Elder
Option 8: Wolf
I think Celtic is overated. He has a cool mask, but fought one alien and gets killed by it. Yet some think he is the best Pred in AVP.
Wolf, hands down.
How did I know someone would say Wolf?
Definitely Celtic. Poor guy, Anderson made a fool out of him.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 02, 2008, 02:19:04 AM
How did I know someone would say Wolf?
Because the question is the most over-rated, and Wolf gets a lot of hype for not doing anything special.
^ I agree with you, but Celtic also got alot of hype, yet he only killed one alien!!! At least Wolf killed more than one.
Celtic killed no aliens... he was a failure.
I liked Wolf...
Most overrated- AVP elder. People say he looked OK, but he looked pretty bad, and he had a stupid cape. He also didn't do anything special.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 02, 2008, 02:31:23 AM
^ I agree with you, but Celtic also got alot of hype, yet he only killed one alien!!! At least Wolf killed more than one.
Celtic received a lot of hype because his fight with Grid was evenly balanced (well, towards the end anyway), not b/c he killed Grid.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Mar 02, 2008, 02:43:14 AM
Celtic killed no aliens... he was a failure.
Your Right!! Damn, see how overated he is?
The AVP Elder was terrible, the porcupine face, the giant tusks, the cape...it was just so over the top, it looked ridiculous. Next on the list is Chopper....he got killed instantly, & people liked him simply because of his giant arm-blades, which I didn't really like anyway.
I am gonna go with anythime... ppl think he is the best when all he really did was use his plasmacaster.
Wolf. He was a cr@ppy cleaner who failed his entire species. He doesn't deserve the pedestal fans put him on.
Definitely Wolf.
If I never see him described as "badass" again, I'll die a happy man. I mean, he was okay for what he was, but overrated? Most certainly.
Definitely Wolf, but second would be P2 - who spent the last half of the film running away from Harrigan.
Quote from: Spectre on Mar 02, 2008, 07:59:54 AM
I am gonna go with anythime... ppl think he is the best when all he really did was use his plasmacaster.
Plasma spammer lol.
Celtic or Scar =/
Wolf is by far.
How is Scar overrated? If anything, his Alien kills are dwarfed by complaints about his team-up with Lex.
^ I agree with you.
Really there is only three good answers... i.e. the three soloists, the others are clearly awful or did nothing to be considered to be rated.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 02, 2008, 02:47:07 AM
Celtic received a lot of hype because his fight with Grid was evenly balanced (well, towards the end anyway), not b/c he killed Grid.
Were you watching the same movie that I was? Grid put his toungue through Celtic's forehead. Grid didn't die until Scar's nuke went off.
Quote from: Newsfop on Mar 03, 2008, 04:21:11 AM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 02, 2008, 02:47:07 AM
Celtic received a lot of hype because his fight with Grid was evenly balanced (well, towards the end anyway), not b/c he killed Grid.
Were you watching the same movie that I was? Grid put his toungue through Celtic's forehead. Grid didn't die until Scar's nuke went off.
I know that. That's the point I was making, that it was
not Celtic who killed Grid.
Quote from: Eidotemit on Mar 02, 2008, 02:43:14 AM
Celtic killed no aliens... he was a failure.
Yes! After I watched the film, I honestly had no clue people would latch onto Celtic as much as they did.
Up until Celtic made the idiotic mistake of just standing there & letting Grid head bite him, he was actually quite a good predator. He was brutal, unmerciful, & deadly. Although most people just like him because of his mask.
I think his mask is the only thing cool about Celtic.
Well he took on Grid in unarmed combat- & nearly won. That says something. He was a far more interesting predator to me than Scar or Chopper. He was brutal & ruthless, slaughtering whatever got in his way. I doubt he would have resorted to the weak team-up with Lex the way Scar did...
Forgive the question, but how did Celtic get his name?
The mask resembles Celtic knotwork
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 03, 2008, 02:49:04 PM
...He was brutal & ruthless, slaughtering whatever got in his way...
I'm sorry, but how is Celtic the above mentioned?
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 03, 2008, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 03, 2008, 02:49:04 PM
...He was brutal & ruthless, slaughtering whatever got in his way...
I'm sorry, but how is Celtic the above mentioned?
I think Stalker might be he who shall not be named.........(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi266.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fii259%2Fseveren76%2Fanderson968_screen.jpg&hash=5e3623c2536466cdfee4dcf3d3e7d35c2af5be37)
:D Well in that case...
-Edit-
Ya' see DoomRulz, the birds and the bees is a metaphorical story sometimes told to children in an attempt to explain, well sexual intercourse...
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 03, 2008, 06:28:45 PM
Ya' see DoomRulz, the birds and the bees is a metaphorical story sometimes told to children in an attempt to explain, well sexual intercourse...
My parents just showed me
A night in Paris.
>_>
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 02, 2008, 01:07:58 AM
I think Celtic is overated. He has a cool mask, but fought one alien and gets killed by it. Yet some think he is the best Pred in AVP.
I don't think I've seen people say he's the best Pred. He's certainly the
coolest Predator as far as I'm concerned. He's got all the key qualities that make a Predator a Predator and he has them in spades. Physically dominant, extremely aggressive, sadistic with a massive ego.
In terms of skill and combat effectiveness I'd say pretty much all the Predators are overrated to some extent. They're either sniping people in the back or gutting victims who are unaware of them. Out of all of them though Wolf is clearly the most over hyped and over rated Predator. He was billed as being the most badass Predator we'd ever see but after watching AVP-R you have to wonder how this moron ever survived his blooding ritual.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Mar 03, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 02, 2008, 01:07:58 AM
I think Celtic is overated. He has a cool mask, but fought one alien and gets killed by it. Yet some think he is the best Pred in AVP.
I don't think I've seen people say he's the best Pred. He's certainly the coolest Predator as far as I'm concerned. He's got all the key qualities that make a Predator a Predator and he has them in spades. Physically dominant, extremely aggressive, sadistic with a massive ego.
In terms of skill and combat effectiveness I'd say pretty much all the Predators are overrated to some extent. They're either sniping people in the back or gutting victims who are unaware of them. Out of all of them though Wolf is clearly the most over hyped and over rated Predator. He was billed as being the most badass Predator we'd ever see but after watching AVP-R you have to wonder how this moron ever survived his blooding ritual.
Why are ppl bashing Wolf... yeah he is overrated but he is clearly the best predator yet in terms of skill.
You just said why, because hes overrated, and hes only the best in terms of skill because thats what we've been told by the directors... he really didn't do anything impressive (skill wise), in fact he did some pretty stupid hunting.
No he clearly isn't. He doesn't do anything that any other Predator seen before him couldn't do. He has all the subtlety and grace of a sledgehammer in combat, constantly walks into ambushes and is taken by suprise by both humans and Aliens. His survival throughout the movie is based on pure luck, no skill involved.
His survival in the movie is not based on pure luck but the fact he is the only Pred in the movie... the same happened with Dutch in Predator. And what I was saying was yeah he is overrated but he still showed the most balls and melle skill. What did Anytime do oh yeah spam his Shoulder Canon and the only real skill he showed was his stalking abilities which he had time to execute unlike Wolf. Oh and Pussyface, well his name says it all he ran like a pussy from Harrigan in the last 20 minutes... Overall Wolf is the dumbest but at least he had balls... or whatever the hell Preds call their gonads since some fanboy will call me for it. ::) :P
Quote from: Spectre on Mar 03, 2008, 11:53:57 PM
His survival in the movie is not based on pure luck but the fact he is the only Pred in the movie... the same happened with Dutch in Predator. And what I was saying was yeah he is overrated but he still showed the most balls and melle skill. What did Anytime do oh yeah spam his Shoulder Canon and the only real skill he showed was his stalking abilities which he had time to execute unlike Wolf. Oh and Pussyface, well his name says it all he ran like a pussy from Harrigan in the last 20 minutes... Overall Wolf is the dumbest but at least he had balls... or whatever the hell Preds call their gonads since some fanboy will call me for it. ::) :P
Pussyface had to run away only to heal himself. The idea was to lure Harrigan to the ship so that they could fight on the Predator's turf. He still lost yes, but I gather that was the idea.
I think Pussyface was pretty badass, he kept dropping into the center of people who were heavily armed and takin' 'em close range.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 04, 2008, 12:17:54 AM
Quote from: Spectre on Mar 03, 2008, 11:53:57 PM
His survival in the movie is not based on pure luck but the fact he is the only Pred in the movie... the same happened with Dutch in Predator. And what I was saying was yeah he is overrated but he still showed the most balls and melle skill. What did Anytime do oh yeah spam his Shoulder Canon and the only real skill he showed was his stalking abilities which he had time to execute unlike Wolf. Oh and Pussyface, well his name says it all he ran like a pussy from Harrigan in the last 20 minutes... Overall Wolf is the dumbest but at least he had balls... or whatever the hell Preds call their gonads since some fanboy will call me for it. ::) :P
Pussyface had to run away only to heal himself. The idea was to lure Harrigan to the ship so that they could fight on the Predator's turf. He still lost yes, but I gather that was the idea.
Yeah but that is still being a Pussyface and even after he healed himself he kept running... I would have let Harrigan come in the bathroom than slashed at him either killing him or making him back up enough to fall off the edge.
I would have waited around the corner and just wrist blade Harrigan as he came around. :D
Quote from: Eidotemit on Mar 04, 2008, 12:19:48 AM
I think Pussyface was pretty badass, he kept dropping into the center of people who were heavily armed and takin' 'em close range.
I'll agree Pussyface was cool when he had his mask on but basically after he lost his mask he became well a Pussyface... losing his mask and basically being blind was prolly the main reason he was running into walls and could't hit Harrigan in melle with out risking his own ass.
Quote from: severen76 on Mar 03, 2008, 05:33:07 PM
I think Stalker might be he who shall not be named.........http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii259/severen76/anderson968_screen.jpg
...The ultimate insult.
To me, Celtic was the only decent predator in AVP. And I
hated the predators in that film, so that's saying something. Scar was a weak excuse for a predator, he teamed up with a human, actually had his life saved by her on more than one occasion, & once he had earned his first kill, he ran from the temple like a scared rabbit. Celtic on the other hand showed no fear, as soon as he saw Grid he charged head-on at the beast, fighting it with his bare hands, & he nearly walked away with the victory. Up until that point, he was the alpha of the trio, & showed no mercy to his victims. He was a far more brutal & interesting character than Scar, who in my opinion, was a complete coward, & by far the worst predator we have seen so far.
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 04:43:37 AM
Quote from: severen76 on Mar 03, 2008, 05:33:07 PM
I think Stalker might be he who shall not be named.........http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii259/severen76/anderson968_screen.jpg
...The ultimate insult.
To me, Celtic was the only decent predator in AVP. And I hated the predators in that film, so that's saying something. Scar was a weak excuse for a predator, he teamed up with a human, actually had his life saved by her on more than one occasion, & once he had earned his first kill, he ran from the temple like a scared rabbit. Celtic on the other hand showed no fear, as soon as he saw Grid he charged head-on at the beast, fighting it with his bare hands, & he nearly walked away with the victory. Up until that point, he was the alpha of the trio, & showed no mercy to his victims. He was a far more brutal & interesting character than Scar, who in my opinion, was a complete coward, & by far the worst predator we have seen so far.
Lol at the ultimate insult bit ;D (sorry man, nothing personal, it's just funny)
And on Celtic...he wasn't that much more interesting than Scar. He
would've walked away with a victory had Anderson not decided to make him stupid. At least Scar killed some Aliens whereas Celtic got pwned.
Scar used a plasmacaster to kill aliens, not to mention Lex's help. He would have been dead twice over if she wasn't there to rescue him. At least Celtic put up a solid fight again Grid, & he was actually dominating for the majority of the brawl, but, just like the same mistake made by the original predators, right when his prey was down & out, he dropped his guard, which led to his death.
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 05:02:38 AM
Scar used a plasmacaster to kill aliens, not to mention Lex's help. He would have been dead twice over if she wasn't there to rescue him. At least Celtic put up a solid fight again Grid, & he was actually dominating for the majority of the brawl, but, just like the same mistake made by the original predators, right when his prey was down & out, he dropped his guard, which led to his death.
Don't get me started on Celtic letting his guard down. At least Scar kept his head up.
If by keeping his head up, you mean being facehugged, attacked from behind twice by aliens, having his life saved numerous times by a human, & being impaled by the Queen...then yes, he was really self-reliant wasn't he?
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 05:16:21 AM
If by keeping his head up, you mean being facehugged, attacked from behind twice by aliens, having his life saved numerous times by a human, & being impaled by the Queen...then yes, he was really self-reliant wasn't he?
Um, that facehugger genuinely got the drop on him. He killed the first Alien swiftly, and the 2nd one that tackled him didn't even go after him after he threw it off him.
What numerous times? It was only once, that's hardly numerous. He was pretty much dead after the Queen nailed him.
Let's talk about the numerous, shall we?
First, Lex gave him his plasmacaster, without it, he would have stood no chance of survival. Then she blasted the alien that jumped on his back & stabbed him as they were about to escape, then she ran up & stabbed the Queen in the neck as it was about to kill him at the end of the film. He was saved three times...by a mere human. That is a complete disgrace in every sense of the word.
He never managed to take an alien down in a fight, he just had quick enough reflexes to swing his shuriken & kill one before it attacked him.
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 05:30:16 AM
Let's talk about the numerous, shall we?
First, Lex gave him his plasmacaster, without it, he would have stood no chance of survival. Then she blasted the alien that jumped on his back & stabbed him as they were about to escape, then she ran up & stabbed the Queen in the neck as it was about to kill him at the end of the film. He was saved three times...by a mere human. That is a complete disgrace in every sense of the word.
He never managed to take an alien down in a fight, he just had quick enough reflexes to swing his shuriken & kill one before it attacked him.
Dude, he was going to kill Lex regardless. He only let her live b/c she killed an Alien.
I'm not talking about him letting her live...the part where she saved him 3 times just breezed over your head didn't it?
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 05:36:43 AM
I'm not talking about him letting her live...the part where she saved him 3 times just breezed over your head didn't it?
Kinda ya, b/c she
didn't save him three times.
1) He was going to kill her for the plasma caster
2) There's no way of knowing what would've happened had he fought the Alien instead of Lex spearing it
3) She only truly saved him once when she stabbed the Queen in the neck
I wasn't referring to the alien that Lex stabbed with the combistick...I'm talking about the one that jumped on his back & stabbed him through the shoulder right before the self destruct bomb exploded. The alien was just about to head bite him then Lex shot it with the harpoon gun used to install the tunnel's light fixtures, blowing its head in half.
Let's not forget that Scar also used the time Lex was struggling with the alien speared on the combistick to actually attach his caster. If she had put up any sort of struggle or tried to run, the time wasted trying to kill her would have allowed the aliens to ambush him before he could use the plasmacaster.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here(or maybe a branch ;D ok i know that wasnt funny ;)) and say Urban hunter was overrated and then Celtic. P2 got killed by a cop in h2h combat!! :o And not only that, it was the black guy. The black guy always dies!! :D Im jp, please dont crucify me. >_> I swear Im not racist, just going by the facts. :) And Celtic got whooped fair and square by an Alien despite all his little weapons. I mean, he had the dagger ready to kill the Alien and what does he do? He just stands there and lets Grid escape the net and kill him. :-\
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 05:52:58 AM
I wasn't referring to the alien that Lex stabbed with the combistick...I'm talking about the one that jumped on his back & stabbed him through the shoulder right before the self destruct bomb exploded. The alien was just about to head bite him then Lex shot it with the harpoon gun used to install the tunnel's light fixtures, blowing its head in half.
Let's not forget that Scar also used the time Lex was struggling with the alien speared on the combistick to actually attach his caster. If she had put up any sort of struggle or tried to run, the time wasted trying to kill her would have allowed the aliens to ambush him before he could use the plasmacaster.
Ok, I'll give you the first point.
What struggle? Scar was like 5 times her size, how the hell would she have struggled? Lex wasn't going to run, she was too frightened to anyway.
I never said it would have been hard for him to kill her, but it would have wasted time he did not have. By the time Lex had slid the plasmacaster on the ground, the first alien had already attacked. Even if Scar had killed her within a matter of seconds, he still wouldn't have had enough time to attach his weapon before he was ambushed.
A quick reminder via the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary entry on "skill":
QuoteMain Entry: skill
Function: noun
2 a: the ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance b: dexterity or coordination especially in the execution of learned physical tasks
3: a learned power of doing something competently : a developed aptitude or ability
Wolf had the most skill? I find that to be hard to believe. The highlight of his Alien escapades is the sewer fight, as it's the only time where he seems to have properly planned things out. In terms of skill, the first Predator was the model of a skilled hunter: he consistently used what he knew of his prey to his advantage, and had no massive discrepancies in his performance. Maybe that lacks honor, but it sure as hell isn't the Scar Predator approach to killing.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 04, 2008, 06:02:46 AM
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 05:52:58 AM
I wasn't referring to the alien that Lex stabbed with the combistick...I'm talking about the one that jumped on his back & stabbed him through the shoulder right before the self destruct bomb exploded. The alien was just about to head bite him then Lex shot it with the harpoon gun used to install the tunnel's light fixtures, blowing its head in half.
Let's not forget that Scar also used the time Lex was struggling with the alien speared on the combistick to actually attach his caster. If she had put up any sort of struggle or tried to run, the time wasted trying to kill her would have allowed the aliens to ambush him before he could use the plasmacaster.
Ok, I'll give you the first point.
What struggle? Scar was like 5 times her size, how the hell would she have struggled? Lex wasn't going to run, she was too frightened to anyway.
If she did run, she could've ran, she was faster than Scar, watch the end.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 04, 2008, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 04, 2008, 06:02:46 AM
Quote from: Stalker on Mar 04, 2008, 05:52:58 AM
I wasn't referring to the alien that Lex stabbed with the combistick...I'm talking about the one that jumped on his back & stabbed him through the shoulder right before the self destruct bomb exploded. The alien was just about to head bite him then Lex shot it with the harpoon gun used to install the tunnel's light fixtures, blowing its head in half.
Let's not forget that Scar also used the time Lex was struggling with the alien speared on the combistick to actually attach his caster. If she had put up any sort of struggle or tried to run, the time wasted trying to kill her would have allowed the aliens to ambush him before he could use the plasmacaster.
Ok, I'll give you the first point.
What struggle? Scar was like 5 times her size, how the hell would she have struggled? Lex wasn't going to run, she was too frightened to anyway.
If she did run, she could've ran, she was faster than Scar, watch the end.
Haha, you're right there, but they were neck-to-neck at times. Meh, I guess Scar would've speared her first.
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Mar 04, 2008, 08:34:41 AM
A quick reminder via the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary entry on "skill":
QuoteMain Entry: skill
Function: noun
2 a: the ability to use one's knowledge effectively and readily in execution or performance b: dexterity or coordination especially in the execution of learned physical tasks
3: a learned power of doing something competently : a developed aptitude or ability
Wolf had the most skill? I find that to be hard to believe. The highlight of his Alien escapades is the sewer fight, as it's the only time where he seems to have properly planned things out. In terms of skill, the first Predator was the model of a skilled hunter: he consistently used what he knew of his prey to his advantage, and had no massive discrepancies in his performance. Maybe that lacks honor, but it sure as hell isn't the Scar Predator approach to killing.
Yeah but guess what Anytime had alot of time to hunt and prepare while the Wolf had alot less considering he had to control the infestation.
Wolf was badass; very skilled. And then I'd say Anytime, then Scar or Pussyface, probably pussyface, Lex really did save Scar's ass on 3 occassions if I recall:
1. spears the Alien when he gets his shoulder cannon
2. shoots the one on his back and..
3. stabs the queen with the makeshift spear Scar made her
And P2 Predator imho, just let things get too deep a little too quick, he just messed around too much and by the time he was really pissed he had already lost an arm and suffered 9 shotgun wounds, point blank.
Pussyface was careless, main point he was kind of noobish.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 04, 2008, 10:18:39 PM
Pussyface was careless, main point he was kind of noobish.
I heard he was supposed to be a n00b like you said; who established that?
No idea, I always thought he was as old, or close to it, as Anytime.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 04, 2008, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 04, 2008, 10:18:39 PM
Pussyface was careless, main point he was kind of noobish.
I heard he was supposed to be a n00b like you said; who established that?
Paul W.S. Anderson
There you have it, coming up with stupid questions, the amazing awful, Paul Anderson!!
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 04, 2008, 11:18:21 PM
There you have it, coming up with stupid questions, the amazingly awful, Paul Anderson!!
Fixed ;D
Hahaha :D
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 04, 2008, 11:16:14 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on Mar 04, 2008, 10:46:26 PM
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 04, 2008, 10:18:39 PM
Pussyface was careless, main point he was kind of noobish.
I heard he was supposed to be a n00b like you said; who established that?
Paul W.S. Anderson
Why am I not surprised ::)
He likes to make up things in his mind. I believe he said the Preds in 1 and 2 were kids, and ones in AVP were teens. Stupid right.
He said the original preds would be like kids, while the ones in AvP were older and going through a blooding ritual like teens. I don't think he meant to imply that the originals are pre-teen and the AvP ones are just teenagers.
Or maybe he did. Either way hes an ass.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 05, 2008, 12:49:16 AM
He likes to make up things in his mind. I believe he said the Preds in 1 and 2 were kids, and ones in AVP were teens. Stupid right.
XD
Quote from: Eidotemit on Mar 02, 2008, 02:25:42 AM
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 02, 2008, 02:19:04 AM
How did I know someone would say Wolf?
Because the question is the most over-rated, and Wolf gets a lot of hype for not doing anything special.
we see him fight more than the others and he was the coolest.
We see him do absolutly nothing special. He just kills aliens, and gets seen by humans carelessly.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 05, 2008, 01:32:19 PM
We see him do absolutly nothing special. He just kills aliens, and gets seen by humans carelessly.
Well what else is he supposed to kill? He killed those two stoners with the guns xD and he was seen by that cop because he was distracted with disintegrating corpses, and then later skinned him alive.
Wolf should've stayed cloaked and checked his surroundings first.
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 05, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Wolf should've stayed cloaked and checked his surroundings first.
That could've helped, but still, u cant know the very second when someones gonna come up to u. I also think he shouldve heard the cop though, being hes supposed to be an elder with lots of experience and all.
Quote from: b-raz on Mar 05, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 05, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Wolf should've stayed cloaked and checked his surroundings first.
That could've helped, but still, u cant know the very second when someones gonna come up to u. I also think he shouldve heard the cop though, being hes supposed to be an elder with lots of experience and all.
When did it ever say that Wolf was supposed to be an elder? ???
^^ People just assume because hes "teh coolnezz!!!1"
Quote from: severen76 on Mar 05, 2008, 03:39:10 PM
^^ People just assume because hes "teh coolnezz!!!1"
lol :D...I def don't think Wolf was an Elder. He was too young.
Yeah but it comes down to the fact that Wolf was rushed due to the time factor. His first objective was to "clean house"...
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 05, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Wolf should've stayed cloaked and checked his surroundings first.
Exactly, I mean he knew humans were in the woods, if he was a smart pred*cough*Anytime*cough* he would have hid in the trees and stayed cloaked.
City Pred. He runs away after he gets his hand lobbed off. Oh and he's defeated by DANNY GLOVER.
Quote from: XenoVC on Mar 05, 2008, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: b-raz on Mar 05, 2008, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 05, 2008, 03:26:17 PM
Wolf should've stayed cloaked and checked his surroundings first.
That could've helped, but still, u cant know the very second when someones gonna come up to u. I also think he shouldve heard the cop though, being hes supposed to be an elder with lots of experience and all.
When did it ever say that Wolf was supposed to be an elder? ???
Personally, I dont find it to be true either, but I believe it was in a magazine article that the Brothers said that he was in fact an Elder. Didnt seem like it to me though. I'd say he was a Warrior, maybe an honored one.
Colin said he was like the original, wiser in his years.
He wasn't an Elder. Look at his face, then look at an Elder's. Serious lack of hair there.
ive always thought anytime was really overrated. he was taken down by arnold with sticks and twigs and 1 grenade ish thing. even when he was hunting he was mostly attacking from a long range.
Quote from: Byohzrd on Mar 06, 2008, 08:44:23 PM
ive always thought anytime was really overrated. he was taken down by arnold with sticks and twigs and 1 grenade ish thing. even when he was hunting he was mostly attacking from a long range.
I wouldnt say hes
really overrated, he was a pretty good tracker and was able to dispose of bodies quite well, and he got 3 kills with the wristblades. I just dont think hes as good as some of the people think on this site, like better than Wolf which isn't true.
Quote from: Byohzrd on Mar 06, 2008, 08:44:23 PM
ive always thought anytime was really overrated. he was taken down by arnold with sticks and twigs and 1 grenade ish thing. even when he was hunting he was mostly attacking from a long range.
haha...sticks and twigs. A log was triggered to fall on the Predator's head from the trap that Dutch set. The sticks that you are referring to had explosive tips from an M203 (40mm round). The only person that is taken from a distance was Blain. I consider Poncho a mercy kill. All other kills were up close and personal.
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 06, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Byohzrd on Mar 06, 2008, 08:44:23 PM
ive always thought anytime was really overrated. he was taken down by arnold with sticks and twigs and 1 grenade ish thing. even when he was hunting he was mostly attacking from a long range.
haha...sticks and twigs. A log was triggered to fall on the Predator's head from the trap that Dutch set. The sticks that you are referring to had explosive tips from an M203 (40mm round). The only person that is taken from a distance was Blain. I consider Poncho a mercy kill. All other kills were up close and personal.
Dillon got his arm blown off and incapicatated, and Mac got plasma to the back of the head
But Anytime was up close when he blew Macs brains out, and he also didn't make Dillon to where he couldn't shoot.
Quote from: Byohzrd on Mar 06, 2008, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 06, 2008, 09:06:10 PM
Quote from: Byohzrd on Mar 06, 2008, 08:44:23 PM
ive always thought anytime was really overrated. he was taken down by arnold with sticks and twigs and 1 grenade ish thing. even when he was hunting he was mostly attacking from a long range.
haha...sticks and twigs. A log was triggered to fall on the Predator's head from the trap that Dutch set. The sticks that you are referring to had explosive tips from an M203 (40mm round). The only person that is taken from a distance was Blain. I consider Poncho a mercy kill. All other kills were up close and personal.
Dillon got his arm blown off and incapicatated, and Mac got plasma to the back of the head
All we see happen to Dillon is his arm get blown off and get stabbed (off-screen). Mac saw the shot coming.
Quote from: Private Hudson on Mar 06, 2008, 10:57:21 PM
But Anytime was up close when he blew Macs brains out, and he also didn't make Dillon to where he couldn't shoot.
Yeah, it was like draw there and Anytime gave him a chance, but he still lost. And Anytime kills: Hawkins(first kill) with the wristblades, finishes off Dillon with his wristblades after shooting off his arm, and Billy as well.
Anytime was good at Stealth kills ill give ya that but Wolf might be the dumbest Pred yet but he had balls unlike the other two... ;D
I think your forgetting that Anytime won. He would have easily just owned Dutch right there and been done with it. He just decided to get the most of his catch.
Scar, some thought he was awesome but here's my reasons why he is NOT
1)Gets outrunned by Sanaa Lathan
2)Only kills one alien w/h-h combat but the alien never expected it
3)Gets stabbed about how many times??
4)2nd most overweight Predator in the film ;D
But onlookers still think he is great but he=overrated
Quote from: Spectre on Mar 07, 2008, 02:06:42 AM
Anytime was good at Stealth kills ill give ya that but Wolf might be the dumbest Pred yet but he had balls unlike the other two... ;D
Wolf, all balls, no brain.
He was smart enough not to be killed by the inner mouth.
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Mar 03, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
He was billed as being the most badass Predator we'd ever see but after watching AVP-R you have to wonder how this moron ever survived his blooding ritual.
Well he destroys a lot of aliens that has to count for something
Quote from: happypred on Mar 07, 2008, 04:33:02 AM
Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Mar 03, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
He was billed as being the most badass Predator we'd ever see but after watching AVP-R you have to wonder how this moron ever survived his blooding ritual.
Well he destroys a lot of aliens that has to count for something
A lot of INEPT aliens......
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Mar 07, 2008, 04:45:27 AM
A lot of INEPT aliens......
if that makes you feel better ;D
Quote from: Spectre on Mar 07, 2008, 02:06:42 AM
Anytime was good at Stealth kills ill give ya that but Wolf might be the dumbest Pred yet but he had balls unlike the other two... ;D
How was Wolf dumb? Just because he got snuck up on by a human when he was disposing of carcasses(which btw is smart imo) doesnt mean that. He was
occupied. Setting the plant on fire, he couldve given a shit about, and the powerglove scene- the Aliens wouldve gotten into the street anyways, he just had to get out there as well as quick as possible to stop them. Remember they were going to that grate that led to the street? Wolf was able to adapt to situations like when his shoulder cannon shorted out, he was a very skilled fighter and didnt let a single Alien get the best of him. Save for Chet that is, but still he gutted him with his combi-stick- didnt do anything, PredAliens are just mad durable. And he managed to stalemate him shoving his wristblades into his skull after Chet gutted him with his tail.
Quote from: b-raz on Mar 07, 2008, 05:57:58 AMJust because he got snuck up on by a human when he was disposing of carcasses(which btw is smart imo)
How was it smart, in the way he was going about it? Dude gets half of his face scarred, loads of markings on his mask, and he still can't figure out that Aliens reproduce faster than he can drip his blue liquid onto them. Then, while he's off on the world's slowest disposal run, he kills a guy, skins, and hangs him. Mind you, I'm supposed to believe he's trying to be stealthy...?
Like I said, Wolf is a letdown if you go by the hype. His actions made no sense.
I voted Scar but then I remembered about God(Wolf)...
Quote from: The Chibi Kiriyama on Mar 07, 2008, 06:50:03 AM
Quote from: b-raz on Mar 07, 2008, 05:57:58 AMJust because he got snuck up on by a human when he was disposing of carcasses(which btw is smart imo)
How was it smart, in the way he was going about it? Dude gets half of his face scarred, loads of markings on his mask, and he still can't figure out that Aliens reproduce faster than he can drip his blue liquid onto them. Then, while he's off on the world's slowest disposal run, he kills a guy, skins, and hangs him. Mind you, I'm supposed to believe he's trying to be stealthy...?
Like I said, Wolf is a letdown if you go by the hype. His actions made no sense.
He just wanted to get rid of the corpses, thats all. I dont see how a dead carcass could produce an Alien, I mean is that what ur saying? I might be misreading u here. And thats what Predators do when they find prey(mostly humans) to be unworthy of a trophy- skinning, its not a matter of being stealthy (he can already do that with his cloak ;)) its part of their clan laws and what Predators do.
I believe the Predators on the scout ship were overrated. One can definitely tell they were a part of Wolf's clan. Trying to look tough while cleaning skulls and shooting at a hybrid. Instead of calling for help, they should've just hit the self destruct button on the way down. People would have thought it was a meteor. :P
I dont think there would be much left of the ship with the self destruct gauntlets being nuclear.
I'm not a bomb expert though. :-\
haha...no, you're right. Don't sell yourself short, you do sound like bomb expert. :)
Can anyone tell me why Wolf threw away the remainder of its arsenal down for the last fight? I don't think that's what an Elite Predator should do. I'm no Elite Predator though. (homage for severen 8))
The mission was a wash at that point, so I guess he figured "If I'm going down, might as well go down in style."
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 07, 2008, 09:18:16 PM
haha...no, you're right. Don't sell yourself short, you do sound like bomb expert. :)
Can anyone tell me why Wolf threw away the remainder of its arsenal down for the last fight? I don't think that's what an Elite Predator should do. I'm no Elite Predator though. (homage for severen 8))
No, dont sell urself short, ur an elite Predator. :D Instead of the Master Chief :P
Quote from: Master Chief on Mar 07, 2008, 04:11:39 PM
I believe the Predators on the scout ship were overrated. One can definitely tell they were a part of Wolf's clan. Trying to look tough while cleaning skulls and shooting at a hybrid. Instead of calling for help, they should've just hit the self destruct button on the way down. People would have thought it was a meteor. :P
I didn't realize ppl thought so highly of those preds I thought they were foolish allowing the Pred-alien to go unoticed...
wolf is badass somewhat but I think both anytime and pussyface can take him out.
as we are judging predators in combat and how crap some of them were, i wonder what it would be like to see the elder predator in combat- surrely he should be like the ultimate bad ass, all the knowledge and experience (kinda like yoda fighting). maybe he would have various combat skills we've never seen the predators use?
My list of best to worst predator:
Anytime
Celtic
Pussyface
Scar
Chopper
Wolf
Why would you rate Celtic ahead of Pussyface, he accomplished more than Celtic ever did...
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 17, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Why would you rate Celtic ahead of Pussyface, he accomplished more than Celtic ever did...
Because Pussyface was way more careless than Celtic.
I know Danny Glover had script immunity, but just the way that Pussyface got owned was very poorly handled, making him out to be an idiot.
Quote from: gameoverman on May 17, 2008, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 17, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Why would you rate Celtic ahead of Pussyface, he accomplished more than Celtic ever did...
Because Pussyface was way more careless than Celtic.
I know Danny Glover had script immunity, but just the way that Pussyface got owned was very poorly handled, making him out to be an idiot.
He still managed to take out an entire apartment full of gangsters and a room filled with them armed to the teeth (in the beginning).
Quote from: gameoverman on May 17, 2008, 03:35:42 PM
Quote from: DoomRulz on May 17, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Why would you rate Celtic ahead of Pussyface, he accomplished more than Celtic ever did...
Because Pussyface was way more careless than Celtic.
I know Danny Glover had script immunity, but just the way that Pussyface got owned was very poorly handled, making him out to be an idiot.
Agreed, I think Urban hunter was most overrated, I mean even if he did take out all those gangsters in the beginning, he was still probably just cloaked, and shot a weapons cache of explosives with his plasma caster from above that took em all out. And seeing how he just slowly walked to attack Danny Glover and then stood there when he has a shotgun was kinda retarded. He could've lunged at him with his wristblades, shot him with his gauntlet-bolt, net-gunned him or speared him
What slowly walked, he was charging as best he could thru the hanging bodies ???
They are all over Rated! I think the fact that all the Preds can take so much damage, not die and still be in good condition to fight is rediculous! There is no mortal organisme that can get shot 7 times in the chest, and have enough strength to rpley to his adversary with: Mother F****er, and then run a half mile, loose his arm and still keep running! BS! Scar Predator still got stabbed like twice and still managed to move just fine. The jungle Pred, or as you call 'em: "anytime", is just the same. Accept he wasn't as bad as the others. Also, what is with all their weapons?!?!?! Like they are supposed to be the ultimate hunters right? On a hunt, you want to keep your payload small, as to carry less weight, and reduce noise, am I right? So that makes no sense! Plus they team up with humans! Lame. The only cool Pred I think was the Celtic Predator. That was the best "fight between Alien and Pred". Wolf is by far the most over rated Pred though. He just is. I'm sorry.
Being an Alien fan, I think all Preds are over-rated, but if I had to choose, it would be WOLF.
Peace everyone. 8)