When I first watched ALIEN, the first Alien movie I saw, I did have some knowledge on the biology of the Alien. I always assumed that the reason the Nostromo takes some damage when it lands on LV-426 is because it landed on top of an Alien, and the Alien's acid blood was causing some short circuting of the Nostromo.
Look carefully when the Nostromo lands, right before the exploding begins. You can see on the right side of the screen, one of the Nostromo's legs appears to land on something that looks kind of like an Alien. It appears to crush whatever this lump on the ground is. Either that, or the weight causes this object to sink into the ground... but something definitely happens there. It looks like some kind of creature, and whatever it is appears to be dead.
Whatever this object is, it definitely is NOT the Xenomorph we are familiar with. But that would make sense, because it is likely the chestburster which burst from the SPACE JOCKEY. So this Xenomorph has taken on DNA from the Space Jockey. It would make sense that this Xenomorph is dead, because it had been there by itself for hundreds or thousands of years while the space jockey was fossilizing, so it likely starved to death.
I do think this explains why parts of the Nostromo exploded and caught on fire when it landed. ACID BLOOD. I've never quite understood why this happened to the Nostromo when it landed, and this explains it. It does look like it lands on top of a weird object, possibly a dead alien. Check it out.
It may sound coincidental that the Nostromo landed on top of the same alien that burst from the Space Jockey, but it might not be the same alien. For all we know there were other Space Jockeys on the derelict which were impregnated.
The leg comes down on an uneven rock formation and gets damaged. There's no Alien.
Quote from: SiL on Oct 29, 2011, 11:07:31 PM
The leg comes down on an uneven rock formation and gets damaged. There's no Alien.
But why was their landing executed so poorly? I assume they are used to landing on planets. Yet this landing was a bit of a failure.
Their landing wasn't executed poorly -- the terrain was uneven and it's doubtful there was a good place to set down on the entire planet. They touched down with everyone alive and the ship intact, if battered; I'd say that counts as a good landing.
The common phrase among pilots is "any landing you can walk away from is a good landing", or something to that effect.
I'd say that went doubly when landing ... in space.
*dramatic music*
StayFrosty , I just rewatched sequence of the Nostromo landing, unfortunately I didn't find those silhouettes to resemble Alien, e. g. there is no dorsal tubes, nor any well-known protrusions either.
In my opinion, so badly performed landing was caused by losing the shield on third desk (maybe, a minor reason) and by the failure of that device, which stabilised ship's floating in the air during the descent. You can listen up to what captain Dallas is saying at the time: "Our inertial damping's going off. Hold on, people, there is gonna be a little bump". So he knew, there would be a tough landing any way.
They landed on a fragment of the Old Ones' homeworld - who's to say they didn't land on a giant dead Shoggoth? :P
Haha, oh man...that's just the weirdest fan fiction i've ever read :laugh:
Oh I see it now. It's not the two foam rocks that the landing gear crushes but a alien'ish looking rock outcropping just behind the forward landing foot. Like it's laying on it's side. Head facing to the left, dorsals away. Still smiling too. You can even make out arms, legs and a body if you use your imagination. The foot doesn't see to touch much less crush it in any way.
Although I always thought the space jockey alien was seen just before the crew entered the derelict, off to the far right. I never noticed it before I saw alien in wide screen as it was cropped out of the frame to fit my tv.
dont forget the ground is really rocky
Everything about Alien has been analyzed to death on this website. There is nothing left to talk about except to speculate about the rocks on LV-426.
We have reached a milestone with this one!
Doesnt the blood lose it's acicity shortly after dying?
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 18, 2011, 01:04:08 PM
Oh I see it now. It's not the two foam rocks that the landing gear crushes but a alien'ish looking rock outcropping just behind the forward landing foot. Like it's laying on it's side. Head facing to the left, dorsals away. Still smiling too. You can even make out arms, legs and a body if you use your imagination. The foot doesn't see to touch much less crush it in any way.
Although I always thought the space jockey alien was seen just before the crew entered the derelict, off to the far right. I never noticed it before I saw alien in wide screen as it was cropped out of the frame to fit my tv.
Are you sure about this? I'm not so sure I was right now.
Also, I've never noticed any alien-looking creature when they enter the derelict.
I sort of think if either of us were right about this, the directors would have commented about this on some commentary or interview. But, nothing. So it doesn't look like they intended on any of this.
Quote from: StayFrostyAre you sure about this? I'm not so sure I was right now.
Also, I've never noticed any alien-looking creature when they enter the derelict.
I sort of think if either of us were right about this, the directors would have commented about this on some commentary or interview. But, nothing. So it doesn't look like they intended on any of this.
Thought that was what you were talking about. :P
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8259/2456q.jpgOh and I always thought that this was the space jockey alien. I was only 2 when the movie premiered so I never saw it in the theater; all I had was the 4:3 vhs to watch. It wasn't till the dvd that I notice that funny looking thing and assumed it was the jockey alien. You know how the creature always lurks near the door you shouldn't go into but people always go into either not noticing the warming or ignoring it. So I thought it was a movie homage put in on purpose.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9489/214r.jpg
We're literally seeing monsters in the shadows and strange rock formations now?
Okay.
Quote from: Ghostface on Nov 19, 2011, 06:42:49 AM
Doesnt the blood lose it's acicity shortly after dying?
If its exposed to the air. I believe Bishop mentioned it was oxidizing. One could argue on whether or not the blood will still be capable without any air exposure, or the fact that LV-426 had no oxygen on the surface at the time...
Quote from: whiterabbit on Nov 19, 2011, 12:53:06 PM
Quote from: StayFrostyAre you sure about this? I'm not so sure I was right now.
Also, I've never noticed any alien-looking creature when they enter the derelict.
I sort of think if either of us were right about this, the directors would have commented about this on some commentary or interview. But, nothing. So it doesn't look like they intended on any of this.
Thought that was what you were talking about. :P
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8259/2456q.jpg
Oh and I always thought that this was the space jockey alien. I was only 2 when the movie premiered so I never saw it in the theater; all I had was the 4:3 vhs to watch. It wasn't till the dvd that I notice that funny looking thing and assumed it was the jockey alien. You know how the creature always lurks near the door you shouldn't go into but people always go into either not noticing the warming or ignoring it. So I thought it was a movie homage put in on purpose.
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9489/214r.jpg
Actually, I was talking about the big rock formation on the right in the first pic.
I don't notice any aliens in what you're talking about. In your pic, it's extremely likely Dallas' crew would have seen these aliens before they entered the derelict, so that can't be what it is.
Quote from: StayFrostyI don't notice any aliens in what you're talking about. In your pic, it's extremely likely Dallas' crew would have seen these aliens before they entered the derelict, so that can't be what it is.
As someone put it, it's just rocks right? They walked right past it because they didn't know what they were looking for.
You know, almost every other rock look like an alien. I guess it is an "Alien" world after all. :)
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Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Nov 19, 2011, 05:05:30 PM
Quote from: Ghostface on Nov 19, 2011, 06:42:49 AM
Doesnt the blood lose it's acicity shortly after dying?
If its exposed to the air. I believe Bishop mentioned it was oxidizing. One could argue on whether or not the blood will still be capable without any air exposure, or the fact that LV-426 had no oxygen on the surface at the time...
Ahh I think you're right
Guys...this thread is fun and all... but this whole thing can be totally negated by the reasons Parker gives to Dallas.
From the SCRIPT...
EXT. NOSTROMO
Engines coughing to life.
Nostromo begins its descent.
Below night's tide rolls across the planet's surface.
INT. BRIDGE
The viewscreen shimmers.
RIPLEY
Turbulence.
EXT. NOSTROMO
Tug-module hydroplaning downward.
A set of brilliant lights switch on.
Cut through the thick atmosphere.
INT. ENGINE ROOM - CUBICLE
Parker and Brett strapped in their seats.
Begin rocking from the sudden, extreme turbulence.
PARKER
Chirst. Overloading. What the
hell are we going through.
BRETT
Dust fritzing the compressor.
PARKER
There goes the conversion
stabilizer.
BRETT
I don't know if the digital
solenoid...
PARKER
Forget it. If we don't crash,
dollars to your aunt's cherry
we get an electrical fire...
INT. BRIDGE
The turbulence continues unabated.
Lambert's eyes follow cross-plot gauges.
LAMBERT
Drop begins...now. Fifteen
kilometers and descending...
twelve...ten...eight and
slowing. Five. Three. Two.
One kilometer and slowing.
DALLAS
Lock tractor breams.
A loud electrical hum.
KANE
Locked.
DALLAS
Kill drive engines.
The engines fall silent.
LAMBERT
Nine hundred meters and dropping.
Eight hundred. Seven hundred.
EXT. PLANET - NIGHT
Storm blowing across the night-shrouded surface.
The Nostromo hovers on glowing beams of light.
Landing struts unfold like insect legs.
The ship slams down.
Rocks heavily on massive shock absorbers.
INT. BRIDGE - NIGHT
RIPLEY
We're down.
An enormous vibration.
The panels in the room flash simultaneously.
Light go out.
KANE
Lost it. Lost it.
INT. ENGINE ROOM
Another huge vibration.
An electrical fire breaks out along three control panels.
INT. OILY CORRIDOR
Huge flash fire whips along corridor.
INT. ENGINE ROOM - CUBICLE
Parker and Brett see the pandemonium below.
Brett hits the secondary generator switch.
A pressure valve blows.
Another conduit breaks loose.
All lights go out.
They grab hand lights from wall.
INT. BRIDGE
Still in darkness.
LAMBERT
Secondary generator should
kick over.
KANE
Where is it.
Moments. Nothing. Kane grabs emergency headlamp from
facia.
Followed by Dallas and Lambert.
DALLAS
What happened?
Ripley hits the voice-amp.
RIPLEY
Engine room, what happened.
PARKER
(voice over)
God damn electrical fire, that's
what happened.
BRETT
(voice over)
It's big.
INT. ENGINE ROOM
Parker fighting an electrical fire on one of his panels.
Brett shouting into his voice-amp.
BRETT
The intakes are clogged. We
overheated and burned out a
whole cell...Christ, it's really
breaking loose down here...
INT. BRIDGE
DALLAS
Somebody give me a simple answer,
Has the hull been breached.
Ripley scans her gauges.
RIPLEY
I don't see anything. We've still
got pressure.
A beep from the communicator.
DALLAS
Hit the screen.
Kane snaps three toggles.
The screens flicker, but remain black.
KANE
Nothing.
EXT. SHIP - NIGHT
The wind sounds.
Storm continues to blow around the craft.
A few glittering lights distinguish the Nostromo from
absolute darkness.
INT. ENGINE ROOM CUBICLE
Parker on the communicator to the bridge.
PARKER
4 panel is totally shot, the
secondary load sharing unit is
out, at least three cells on
12 module are gone.
INT. BRIDGE
Ripley listening to Parker.
Dallas standing over her.
No images on any screens.
RIPLEY
Is that it.
PARKER
(voice over)
Couldn't fix it out here anyway.
And we need to reroute a couple
of these ducts. Can't really fix
them without a whole drydock...
DALLAS
What else.
PARKER
(voice over)
We lost a cell. Some fragments
caked up and blew the whole
system. We've got to clean it
all out and repressurize.
BRETT
(voice over)
Right.
RIPLEY
Get started on 4 panel. I'll
be down in five minutes.
She shuts off her voice communicator.
QuoteGuys...this thread is fun and all... but this whole thing can be totally negated by watching the movie properly.
Yes, I agree now.
Nope. The ship landed on a rock and that made the ships landing difficult.
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