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IT BEGINS.

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wtf is going on there

Idris Elba!
F**K YES

High five, photographer.

Quote from: Darkoo on Aug 01, 2011, 06:32:38 AM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro3.jpg

Lets play:

"Where da jockey at?"

post the video c**ts they are screenshots of a video.

Quote from: Darkoo on Aug 01, 2011, 06:32:38 AM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro3.jpg
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro0.jpg

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I want it now.

MORE HERE
http://www.use.com/162b028d8fbacc707c6a#photo=24 (http://www.use.com/162b028d8fbacc707c6a#photo=24)

SAVE THEM AS FAST AS YOU CAN

Quote from: Darkoo on Aug 01, 2011, 06:32:38 AM
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I see where this is going :D.

SAVED THEM ALL

Oh my God!
Thank you, uploader.
Let the speculation begin.

Thx, well i guess they'll release the trailer or photos soon...HD material is much better advertisement than this leaked stuff.

@Pic1: That's exactly my look when i find something exciting in my nose!

Pretty groovy how half the tech runs on Kickin' Kiwi-Lime Kool-Aid and glowstick fluid. Oh yeah.

Ok I just had a heart attack...

I'm really hoping they're balacing out the old/new tech here.  I wanna see a seamless blend of the Nostromo and Mass Effect. 

Now I won't be able to sleep tonight.

Im glad it stylistically conforms to Alien's retro feel. Although it looks futuristic, it still very much has that 70s charm about it.

hell yes, loving this. I want the video god dammit

check out the walls, look familiar :)

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This looks very familiar...It has the Nostromo feeling to it.

Namely to this part of the ship:

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And this one:

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It's just that the older version seems to have more detail (buttons and stuff).

Must...resist....screaming....in caps lock.....

Yessss oh my god, so stoked they are keeping the design so close to Alien. I have a feeling this is more an Alien movie then they wanna admit

ARE THOSE ALIEN EGGS!!!!!

wow!  :o

Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Aug 01, 2011, 07:57:33 AM
ARE THOSE ALIEN EGGS!!!!!

At first sight they look like eggs, but if you watch more carefully, you will see that they  are not completely egg-shaped. The top is sort of cut-off and flat. Or maybe it is just my impression.

Is it for real? Did I wake up? Or I'm still dreaming?

When I saw pics from Predators I had very bad premonitions. And I was right then.
Now my premonitions are so damn good... Please, gods, don't let me be wrong...

Didn't I hear/read somewhere this wasn't going to be a prequel anymore?

Some of these pics are screaming "ALIEN PREQUEL!".

These are all... electrifying  :o

These images do look like they're screencaps from a video file, not single snapshots from a still camera.

One thing I'm afraid of, and this is more personal than anything, is that all I can think of when I see Idris' mug is STRINGER EFFIN BELL

I'm starting to suspect that these are screencaps from an actual recorded video.
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You can see an obvious scrollbar in this image.  Maybe for volume.

Quote from: Lt. Ellen Ripley on Aug 01, 2011, 08:08:22 AM
AWESOME!! Here´s the rest of the lot:

http://i54.tinypic.com/rro1es.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/vy4ldx.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/hv5t2x.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/vwqqgl.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/wi3ryo.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/w0gv3n.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2vt5u6f.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/5zl5pd.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/sw5qbd.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/343swfo.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/14l4kki.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/208inu1.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/i4ikug.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2hhivyp.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/f3rhn5.jpg

http://i56.tinypic.com/kbp26f.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/ad11n9.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/1675nbq.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/i1n1ia.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/29x89i0.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/33upg7k.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/14dodhg.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/34njn8l.jpg

Ok there a picture of a spacesuit guy bending over to look at something, a non-human hand pressing green buttons (I hope that's the space jockeys hand) and a cavern or pit full of possibly eggs..... Awesome. I think I just had a heart attack.

*Terx2 collapses from too much awesomeness*

These look amazing! I wanna see the footage now!

Wow! After all this time since Comic-Con, I was sure we weren't going to see a thing but then we get all this!

The aesthetics is spot-on in terms of replicating the original Alien, whilst not exactly 'copying' it. 

From what were shown here, it does indeed seem as though this is the kind of ship a crew of scientists and corporate types would be piloting around the same time that a crew of miners would be flying the Nostromo.

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LV-426? Colonised?


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Jockey pushing buttons of that scope thing he sits in?



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Entering a room with guns drawn? so or they are going against each other in some part of the movie or it is a hostile take over maybe the movie is being portreited from a Weyland point of view so all the people arent nice ones.

Few things.

Where is the jockey chair? That sure looks like its chamber.

Who or what is getting flamed?  :o

I just came  :o

it looks awesome. VERY  ' A L I E N '  it's pretty clear it's set in the alien universe, that's for sure

Quote from: Infected on Aug 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
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LV-426? Colonised?

It can't be LV-426. This movie takes place 30 years prior to Alien. And in Aliens we find out that the planet has been colonised for 20 years. Since Ripley was in space for 50 years, that means that it will take 60 years in total from the events in Prometheus to the colonization of LV-426. It is either Earth or another colony planet.

Quote from: Ghostface on Aug 01, 2011, 10:36:06 AM
Few things.

Where is the jockey chair? That sure looks like its chamber.

It looks like the SJ chamber, but it isn't. I goggled the original image and there certainly are some big differences between the texture of both sets. Unless this is "yet another SJ spacecraft", then it is not the SJ chamber we know from Alien.
Not to mention that this new one seems to be bigger than in the original movie.

Or it could be the ship has the capability to deploy vehicles.

Well those parts look very similar to the chair design...

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Quote from: maddriver on Aug 01, 2011, 10:42:34 AM


It looks like the SJ chamber, but it isn't. I goggled the original image and there certainly are some big differences between the texture of both sets. Unless this is "yet another SJ spacecraft", then it is not the SJ chamber we know from Alien.
Not to mention that this new one seems to be bigger than in the original movie.

At least it is one of those types of platforms

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 01, 2011, 10:42:34 AM

Quote from: Infected on Aug 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
http://i55.tinypic.com/f3rhn5.jpg

LV-426? Colonised?

It can't be LV-426. This movie takes place 30 years prior to Alien. And in Aliens we find out that the planet has been colonised for 20 years. Since Ripley was in space for 50 years, that means that it will take 60 years in total from the events in Prometheus to the colonization of LV-426. It is either Earth or another colony planet.

Quote from: Ghostface on Aug 01, 2011, 10:36:06 AM
Few things.

Where is the jockey chair? That sure looks like its chamber.

It looks like the SJ chamber, but it isn't. I goggled the original image and there certainly are some big differences between the texture of both sets. Unless this is "yet another SJ spacecraft", then it is not the SJ chamber we know from Alien.
Not to mention that this new one seems to be bigger than in the original movie.

Really? i sure do see the same chamber but without the scope thing elevated on the platform

Quote from: Infected on Aug 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
http://i55.tinypic.com/f3rhn5.jpg

LV-426? Colonised?

Looks like the undercarriage of a ship?

Quote from: Pn2501 on Aug 01, 2011, 11:15:16 AM

Quote from: Infected on Aug 01, 2011, 10:34:30 AM
http://i55.tinypic.com/f3rhn5.jpg

LV-426? Colonised?

Looks like the undercarriage of a ship?

Yes also possible like they are preparing to go some place dangerous :D
The vehicles and lighting reminded me of Aliens.

Quote from: Infected on Aug 01, 2011, 11:09:55 AM
Really? i sure do see the same chamber but without the scope thing elevated on the platform

It looks like it. I mean at first I've also thought the same as you.
But then I made a comparison between this one (Alien):

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And this one (Prometheus):

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The floor texture  and the "cables" don't really seem to match. And it gives me the impression that the one in Prometheus is bigger than the one in Alien. It looks more like a landing platform for a smaller ship.

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 01, 2011, 11:26:04 AM

Quote from: Infected on Aug 01, 2011, 11:09:55 AM
Really? i sure do see the same chamber but without the scope thing elevated on the platform

It looks like it. I mean at first I've also thought the same as you.
But then I made a comparison between this one (Alien):

http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/article/843/843439/space-jockey-alien-1_1199392713.jpg

And this one (Prometheus):

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro3.jpg

The floor texture  and the "cables" don't really seem to match. And it gives me the impression that the one in Prometheus is bigger than the one in Alien. It looks more like a landing platform for a smaller ship.

Your right,
then my guess is as good as nothing probably gonna see a lot of new alien like stuff.

I also wonder how long the movie will be,
a simple one hour and a half? or big two and a half. :D

Clearly this more Alien related than they were letting on...the rascals

I really love the look of this. Can't wait to see some actual footage. ;D

I normally don't geek out, but...are...those...eggs?... :D (nerd scream)

This looks awesome. Totally Alien-ish.

Quote from: Pn2501 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:36:48 AM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro1.jpg

wtf is going on there

Chestburster? :P

Just kidding. If you look closely however, one of the guys in the background is actually in a wheelchair.

Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Aug 01, 2011, 12:51:13 PM

Quote from: Pn2501 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:36:48 AM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro1.jpg

wtf is going on there

Chestburster? :P

Just kidding. If you look closely however, one of the guys in the background is actually in a wheelchair.

Her legs Are almost misshaped looks like one of the aliens out of the arrival, You're right about the wheelchair might have something to do with long periods in space maybe? Rehabilitation? Hence the pushups.

Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Aug 01, 2011, 12:51:13 PM

Quote from: Pn2501 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:36:48 AM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro1.jpg

wtf is going on there

Chestburster? :P

Just kidding. If you look closely however, one of the guys in the background is actually in a wheelchair.

Maybe an alien in pure form or something created by mankind.
They look like scientists and the crew with Fassbender look like they are raiding the scientists maybe the group with Fassbender is there to steal the tech from the jockeys the scientist found.

It looks like this is going to be a fantastic sci fi horror movie. I really like the photos. They remind me of the good old times.

some of those sets look a little Alien Resurrection/Event Horizon, but the others are pure Alien. From the little you can tell from these things, it certainly looks like the films I grew up with.

Quote from: Pn2501 on Aug 01, 2011, 12:57:23 PM

Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Aug 01, 2011, 12:51:13 PM

Quote from: Pn2501 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:36:48 AM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro1.jpg

wtf is going on there

Chestburster? :P

Just kidding. If you look closely however, one of the guys in the background is actually in a wheelchair.

Her legs Are almost misshaped looks like one of the aliens out of the arrival, You're right about the wheelchair might have something to do with long periods in space maybe? Rehabilitation? Hence the pushups.

Whoever it is, they seem to still be wearing the cryosleep bandage/mummy outfit, so maybe they've just awoken and are finding it difficult to walk? This would also coincide with what you said about the wheelchair and the pushups.

Quote from: Lt. Mike Harrigan on Aug 01, 2011, 12:51:13 PM

Quote from: Pn2501 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:36:48 AM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro1.jpg

wtf is going on there

Chestburster? :P

Just kidding. If you look closely however, one of the guys in the background is actually in a wheelchair.

It looks to me like there is a really tall humanoid  attached to the ceiling horizontally. Above and behind the three sitting people. Maybe my eyes are just playing tricks on me.

Also it looks like there's another character further into the background just being the middle person who is kneeling. Or is it some sort of idol or artifact?

SJ experiment on 'em!  :o

So that's the famous giant head.

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Quote from: ikarop on Aug 01, 2011, 01:50:26 PM
So that's the famous giant head.

http://i54.tinypic.com/rro1es.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/343swfo.jpg

So it is I missed that.

Quote from: ikarop on Aug 01, 2011, 01:50:26 PM
So that's the famous giant head.

http://i54.tinypic.com/rro1es.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/343swfo.jpg

Yup. Looking at the first picture you can clearly see the back of the 'ears'.

Bottom pucture you can see a nose!

Well those look absolutely amazing, very ALIEN-like! The shot of the eggs definitely confirms Alien movie :P

Well, my excitement for this just grew, I don't know, about a million times. Visually, at least, it looks stunning. Just need to learn a bit more about the story through trailers now :)

urgh my anus wasn't ready

it wasn't ready at all

Don't see everything before you get to the cinema.

Yup, gets my approval alright

PLEASE!!!!!!


Someone restart my Brain!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

(//)


Definately a wheelchair...maybe just out of hypersleep...the thing in the middle?...maybe something went wrong for one of them in hypersleep?

HOLY F**KING SHIT!!!!!!!!!!




*Head Explosion*

*Universe explosion*

Quote from: howardvegas on Aug 01, 2011, 02:35:29 PM



Definately a wheelchair...maybe just out of hypersleep...the thing in the middle?...maybe something went wrong for one of them in hypersleep?

QuoteMuscles

On Earth, our muscles are constantly working – whether walking, lifting, even sitting or standing upright – during all of these normal activities our muscles are working against gravity to some degree. In a micro gravity environment, there is no appreciable force of gravity for the muscles to work against, so muscle tone is lost. This deconditioning is evident in as few as five days and is progressive. During longer flights, muscles can shrink in size and lose their strength. As the muscles continue to atrophy, they become less resistant to fatigue, and one may experience uncontrolled muscle twitches and a loss of fine motor control. There is a danger of the weakened ligaments and muscles tearing under stresses that would not be a problem under normal circumstances.

As an example, after a 211 day tour of duty on Mir, cosmonauts Berezovoy and Lebedev returned to Earth so debilitated that they had to be carried off their spacecraft, and could barely walk for a week. They required extensive rehabilitation to return to their pre-flight levels of fitness (4). However, the loss of muscle strength and control can be kept to much lower levels by exercising regularly during the mission. A good example of the success of exercise is Shannon Lucid, who after 188 days on board Mir, was able to walk off the spacecraft unassisted, and who experienced a lesser degree of muscle debilitation than she would have had she not exercised regularly during the mission. Harrison, Albert, Spacefaring: The Human Dimension, 2001, University of California Press

Quote from: robbritton on Aug 01, 2011, 01:20:15 PM
some of those sets look a little Alien Resurrection/Event Horizon, but the others are pure Alien.

I had the same impression...for me,a design style more close to that "Nostromo/Blade Runner dirty and machine-like feeling" would be better,however,i like the ilumination and the dark tone of the pictures.The space suits have a great helmet design too.

Good article about sci-fi corridors: ;)
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/313130/in_praise_of_the_scifi_corridor.html (http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/313130/in_praise_of_the_scifi_corridor.html)

Wait, those aren't eggs in the last picture, are they?

hmmmmmm. Seems pretty clear what Neville Page designed.

Think I need to see the footage with the sound before I make up my mind about what I think.

Wow, looks awesome. Hype just went up.

Quote from: Remonster on Aug 01, 2011, 04:02:47 PM
Wait, those aren't eggs in the last picture, are they?

Looks like urns/jars...someone mentioned they are filled with some kind of goo

I just love how all the lighting looks natural inside the spaceship.  No green/blue-tinted muck.

Looks like this will be an Alien film.  I kinda hoped that they the shooter would have taken some pics of the "Alien", though. :-\

Keep in mind that these could be snapshots of the recorded footage that could be released any time now.

That's what im hoping, they certainly look like grabs.

These pics really put me in the mood to watch "The Thing".  I've been wondering if I should see the film or not.

Holy mother of hell!  :o ;D

I looked, astounded, at the thread title.
Then I opened it. And my heartbeat started increasing, and increasing, and increasing and--
HOLY f**k when does this film come out! I want it now!

Definitely awesome!!

Everything i'm looking at takes me back to the first Alien. Sure, it's not 100% identical, but we need some variety after all.

What's the deal with the famous/infamous head however? I can see it in the pics but it's significance is lost on me. Guess i'm not as educated as some others.

I wonder if we'll see a trailer, perhaps the 1 that gave us these screen shots, with Planet of the Apes this weekend...?

Quote from: predxeno on Aug 01, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
These pics really put me in the mood to watch "The Thing".  I've been wondering if I should see the film or not.

John Carpenters? Hell yes, some people don't seem to really enjoy it but I love that movie.

f**king hell, I'm loving how this movie is looking. It fits perfectly with the Alien series.

Someone really needs to stream Alien for us right now so we can all get together and catch the similarities.

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 01, 2011, 04:38:07 PM
@Omega

Was your reaction similar to your avatar?

Bigger, bigger!!
I was standing there, looking at the screen, open mouth... still.

Oh my this is gonna rock. So. Much.

It looks very much like a cross between Alien & 2001 in some of the ship aesthetics which I would kind of expect, what with it being a fancy shiney (I guess) new ship, not some dank working ship. And the Giger influence is extremely obvious. This is an Alien film. No doubt about it.

The sets look very impressive and very alien-like. I wonder why they said it wasn't an alien prequel when it clearly is.

And I can't figure out the massive head thing. I just can't see it in the pictures.

Haha now imagine this is all some kind of desinformation campaign, this movie will be a comedy...like "Hangover in Space" :D

Quote from: predxeno on Aug 01, 2011, 04:34:09 PM
These pics really put me in the mood to watch "The Thing".  I've been wondering if I should see the film or not.

Watch it predxeno, its great.




And man, these pics are really, really great! I really hope that footage goes online!

Quote from: Darkness on Aug 01, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
The sets look very impressive and very alien-like. I wonder why they said it wasn't an alien prequel when it clearly is.

And I can't figure out the massive head thing. I just can't see it in the pictures.

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That is a shot looking towards the left side of the head, with the nose pointing towards the left side of the screen.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.use.com%2Fimages%2Fs_2%2F162b028d8fbacc707c6a_14.jpg%3Fis%3Dtrue%26amp%3Bps%3Dtrue%26amp%3Brand%3D47327383654&hash=6ca98bd96e75acadcd122e7e7bea55bb6150e301) HOW MANY EGGS ARE THERE!  :o

Quote from: Darkness on Aug 01, 2011, 04:54:54 PM
The sets look very impressive and very alien-like. I wonder why they said it wasn't an alien prequel when it clearly is.

And I can't figure out the massive head thing. I just can't see it in the pictures.

There's still the chance that all these homages are coincidental or are just to reference the Alien film and not actually be a part of the same universe.  But even I have to admit, as one of the biggest skeptics of this film being part of Alien, that that chance is pretty slim at this point.

I don't think they're eggs. In another picture from near-ground level, they seem to have a flat top, not round-shaped, sort of like a canister containing something. It is just my impression and probably I'm very wrong.

Also, in the above picture, the 'eggs' don't have the same size. Maybe it's because of the bad quality.



EDIT:

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Okay, so if you look carefully at the eggs in the foreground, they seem to have a flat top.

And for some reason, I think it has something to do with this:

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It looks like someone is sticking his hand inside an 'egg' and slimy, green goo covers his arm.

I saw these earlier. They are looking great, it won't be long until we see a teaser.

I cannot wait to see this. FINALLY WE GET WHAT WE WANT AFTER 20+ years of waiting. Since ALIEN 3 it was downhill. Now fox has done it right!

I want it to be a classic movie like Alien (1979) or Aliens (1986) the other ones were downhill; I would be very mad if this ends up like Alien: Resurrection or Alien 3, but lets just hope it will be awesome  ;D

Different kind of cryotubes?

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No eggs, might be those jars from this pics:
http://trekweb.com/images/stories/4e157ad656cb4-1.jpg (http://trekweb.com/images/stories/4e157ad656cb4-1.jpg)
http://trekweb.com/images/stories/4e157ad656cb4-2.jpg (http://trekweb.com/images/stories/4e157ad656cb4-2.jpg)

I think its time for me to come back to this forum, great screenshots.

But what the hell is going on here?
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I know people have seen the nose but has anyseen that this is the back of a head?

You can see the back of the ears

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Quote from: ElderPredator on Aug 01, 2011, 05:56:19 PM
I think its time for me to come back to this forum, great screenshots.

But what the hell is going on here?

It looks like someone who rushed into the room and is just about to fall on her knees because some reason.

Quote from: ElderPredator on Aug 01, 2011, 05:56:19 PM
I think its time for me to come back to this forum, great screenshots.

But what the hell is going on here?
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_21.jpg

Some people think that this may be a effect to the human muscles after long space travels...like the guy in the wheelchair in the back. But 2 people with effects on their muscles? I don't think so...maybe she's got a pass out and the pic was taken in the moment she falls down or Mr. SJ experimented on her :D

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 01, 2011, 05:51:50 PM
Different kind of cryotubes?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_9.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_11.jpg

They sure look like freezers to me. Literally :D

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I like the giger look of things, but some of the futuristic stuff looks a little too "Tron" for me.

I hoped for a more dirty and "used" look.

This is looking more and more like a spiritual successor to Alien, incorporating certain design elements but at the same time being completely unrelated.  Seems like it'll be an "Alien meets 2001: A Space Odyssey" of sorts.  Kind of disappointing to be honest.  Sure I love any good sci-fi film, and this looks good, I was just hoping to see Xenomorphs again.   

Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 01, 2011, 06:16:48 PM
This is looking more and more like a spiritual successor to Alien, incorporating certain design elements but at the same time being completely unrelated.  Seems like it'll be an "Alien meets 2001: A Space Odyssey" of sorts.  Kind of disappointing to be honest.  Sure I love any good sci-fi film, and this looks good, I was just hoping to see Xenomorphs again.   

Keep in mind these clips are taken from the Comic Con footage, which wasn't even a true "teaser" trailer.  No way were they going to show images of any alien creatures from the movie, as that would be a huge spoiler.  So, don't dash your hopes for xenomorphs just yet.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2011, 06:16:23 PM
I like the giger look of things, but some of the futuristic stuff looks a little too "Tron" for me.

I hoped for a more dirty and "used" look.

The senior concept artist of Tron Legacy worked on this film after all. 

I quite like it personally.

Quote from: RoaryUK on Aug 01, 2011, 06:14:38 PM
Dunno about you guys, but looking at these 2 pics as a comparison...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_14.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_1.jpg

...I'm seeing a picture of one gigantic circular set, with a pedestal in the middle people seem to agree forms a 'head'. But I wonder if the pedastal leads to another level of what seems like a cave, since Scott often like's to interconnect things to make them appear formed, something like this perhaps...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_18.jpg

So generally what you're saying is that the last picture is the top of the 'head'?

Them limp looking like eggs which we can see on the new photos they would not be her limp held by the character of the very first photo freed by the fox?

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 01, 2011, 05:19:18 PM
I don't think they're eggs. In another picture from near-ground level, they seem to have a flat top, not round-shaped, sort of like a canister containing something. It is just my impression and probably I'm very wrong.

Also, in the above picture, the 'eggs' don't have the same size. Maybe it's because of the bad quality.



EDIT:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/jul11/apro0.jpg

Okay, so if you look carefully at the eggs in the foreground, they seem to have a flat top.

And for some reason, I think it has something to do with this:

http://i55.tinypic.com/wi3ryo.jpg

It looks like someone is sticking his hand inside an 'egg' and slimy, green goo covers his arm.

Yeah, I also noticed that the eggs looked different.

Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Aug 01, 2011, 06:16:23 PM
I hoped for a more dirty and "used" look.

100% agree but i guess there will be more "smooth" stuff

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Looks like where the chair should be.Do you see the circle in the middle of ther platform?Maybe the chair comes from under the floor?

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 01, 2011, 06:21:18 PM

Quote from: RoaryUK on Aug 01, 2011, 06:14:38 PM
Dunno about you guys, but looking at these 2 pics as a comparison...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_14.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_1.jpg

...I'm seeing a picture of one gigantic circular set, with a pedestal in the middle people seem to agree forms a 'head'. But I wonder if the pedastal leads to another level of what seems like a cave, since Scott often like's to interconnect things to make them appear formed, something like this perhaps...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_18.jpg

So generally what you're saying is that the last picture is the top of the 'head'?

Yeah very possibly. There's definately some interest in the head thing anyway. Im thinking maybe some of those people climbed up there.

Maybe this platform...

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is the top of the giant head.

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I haven't been following the news much, just want to make sure before I jump off the bridge...

there are going to be HR Giger black Alien Xenomorphs in this movie right? :-\

Quote from: Effectz on Aug 01, 2011, 06:26:04 PM
http://i52.tinypic.com/2dkxpit.jpg

Looks like where the chair should be.Do you see the circle in the middle of ther platform?Maybe the chair comes from under the floor?

Afaik there've already been a comparison of the original SJ pic and this one...should be a different room.

@ Alienhunter, this might be...looks similar!

@ Phantom, afaik there might be an "original form" of the xenomorph included but the focus of the movie won't be on it...i guess it will be some kind of new creation since we all already know the classic Alien. Can't scare anyone anymore...

It's officially unknown whether we'll see Xeno's or not. They like to claim this as a standalone film within the universe of Alien but the more and more i/we see the more it looks pretty damn related to the original.

And certainly i could by that platform being the top of the giant head. I really don't know that'll i speculate too much about it now though. Sure, that's a good chuck of the fun, but we really have no clue what the giant head symbolizes am i right?

Quote from: Alienhunter15 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:33:09 PM
Maybe this platform...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_18.jpg

is the top of the giant head.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_14.jpghttp://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_1.jpg

That's interesting - could be! :D

Someone else jumped to the conclusion it was a non-human hand but at first glance to me it's just someone wearing a glove...

Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:41:06 PM
Someone else jumped to the conclusion it was a non-human hand but at first glance to me it's just someone wearing a glove...

agreed.. It just looked like one of there space suit gloves. I don't think ridley or fox would put in even a snippet of the alien creatures in the first footage

Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Aug 01, 2011, 06:37:56 PM
@ Phantom, afaik there might be an "original form" of the xenomorph included but the focus of the movie won't be on it...i guess it will be some kind of new creation since we all already know the classic Alien. Can't scare anyone anymore...

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Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:38:29 PM
It's officially unknown whether we'll see Xeno's or not. They like to claim this as a standalone film within the universe of Alien but the more and more i/we see the more it looks pretty damn related to the original.

And certainly i could by that platform being the top of the giant head. I really don't know that'll i speculate too much about it now though. Sure, that's a good chuck of the fun, but we really have no clue what the giant head symbolizes am i right?

Supposedly there's some kind of "pure" form of xeno we havent seen yet, that's pressumably a creation of the Jockeys, maybe workers of some kind, but it's rumoured is nothing like the creature from Alien.  Im guessing what happens is, the goo we've seen in other pics gets contaminated by these humans, and they eventually spawn the alien we know which wreaks havok on everything else.

As for the giant 'head' I'm just going along with everyone else here 'coz I can see what looks like a nose, lol, but it could and probably will be something completely different!

Quote from: nendo on Aug 01, 2011, 06:48:26 PM

Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:41:06 PM
Someone else jumped to the conclusion it was a non-human hand but at first glance to me it's just someone wearing a glove...

agreed.. It just looked like one of there space suit gloves. I don't think ridley or fox would put in even a snippet of the alien creatures in the first footage

Aye,
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Color fits and the design of the plates on her shoulder looks similar to the small plates on the glove.

Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:41:06 PM
...it's just someone wearing a glove...

It is, lol.

The pictures are great. But any movie can have a Bio-mechanical feel to it. Should it, being bio-mechanical, necessarily make it an Alien film? The Giant Head makes me want to not believe that it is an Alien film. Just saying..

Quote from: RoaryUK on Aug 01, 2011, 06:49:17 PM

Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:38:29 PM
It's officially unknown whether we'll see Xeno's or not. They like to claim this as a standalone film within the universe of Alien but the more and more i/we see the more it looks pretty damn related to the original.

And certainly i could by that platform being the top of the giant head. I really don't know that'll i speculate too much about it now though. Sure, that's a good chuck of the fun, but we really have no clue what the giant head symbolizes am i right?

Supposedly there's some kind of "pure" form of xeno we havent seen yet, that's pressumably a creation of the Jockeys, maybe workers of some kind, but it's rumoured is nothing like the creature from Alien.  Im guessing what happens is, the goo we've seen in other pics gets contaminated by these humans, and becomes the alien we know, and wreaks havok on everything else.

Perhaps - I'd heard of the alleged pure alien before but i'm cautious as to what i perceive that to mean. If there's one thing i'm not keen on it's Alien goo, especially if it's of some vital importance to the development of any particular creature. What immediately pops to mind is the Species films, most notably II, when it's an alien goo that triggers the transformation into w/e creature they become. They too often talk of purebred aliens that we've not seen. Now, maybe it's disingenuous to compare the Alien franchise, espec the original, with Species, but that's where my mind goes when talking about 'goo' and pure, or half, breeds.

Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:41:06 PM
Someone else jumped to the conclusion it was a non-human hand but at first glance to me it's just someone wearing a glove...

Unless it is a coincidence of convergent exo-evolution, the "hand" has five fingers, which makes it a tetrapod, and therefore homologous with human.  So, probably a man/woman in a spacesuit (glove) ?

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Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:41:06 PM
Someone else jumped to the conclusion it was a non-human hand but at first glance to me it's just someone wearing a glove...

agreed.. It just looked like one of there space suit gloves. I don't think ridley or fox would put in even a snippet of the alien creatures in the first footage

I was joking dude did you not see mr smiley there lol

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Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 01, 2011, 07:01:19 PM
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You beat me to it man  ;D

Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them.

I have seen this Luke Pic a few hours ago...best MS Paint Job ever :D

One thing bothers me, I sure hope the Space Jockey's in this movie are hostile, some reports suggest they cummunicate with humans in order to save themselves when whatever they're up against gets lose.  Don't fancy sitting through 2 hours of friendly aliens fighting more aliens....surely that won't happen right?   >:(

I haven't seen those reports, but I think that would be quite interesting actually.

I think they were just duff synopsis' that people had written.

The dawn of a new franchise...Alien vs Predator vs Humans & Spacejockeys  :o

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what are they examining here?

Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Aug 01, 2011, 07:20:19 PM
The dawn of a new franchise...Alien vs Predator vs Humans & Spacejockeys  :o

Would you really put it past FOX not to do that???  lol

Almost looks like some sort of proto face hugger around some ones head.

Was just thinking, considering there's still over 9 months to go til PROMETHEUS's release, Scott certainly has a lot of stuff to show for it....and it's looking good too!

I'm really looking forward to this film!

Now where is that close up shot of Archeron....

Quote from: zuzuki on Aug 01, 2011, 07:21:52 PM
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what are they examining here?

Looks like the skull of something...

Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:55:59 PM

Quote from: RoaryUK on Aug 01, 2011, 06:49:17 PM

Quote from: Spidey3121 on Aug 01, 2011, 06:38:29 PM
It's officially unknown whether we'll see Xeno's or not. They like to claim this as a standalone film within the universe of Alien but the more and more i/we see the more it looks pretty damn related to the original.

And certainly i could by that platform being the top of the giant head. I really don't know that'll i speculate too much about it now though. Sure, that's a good chuck of the fun, but we really have no clue what the giant head symbolizes am i right?

Supposedly there's some kind of "pure" form of xeno we havent seen yet, that's pressumably a creation of the Jockeys, maybe workers of some kind, but it's rumoured is nothing like the creature from Alien.  Im guessing what happens is, the goo we've seen in other pics gets contaminated by these humans, and becomes the alien we know, and wreaks havok on everything else.

Perhaps - I'd heard of the alleged pure alien before but i'm cautious as to what i perceive that to mean. If there's one thing i'm not keen on it's Alien goo, especially if it's of some vital importance to the development of any particular creature. What immediately pops to mind is the Species films, most notably II, when it's an alien goo that triggers the transformation into w/e creature they become. They too often talk of purebred aliens that we've not seen. Now, maybe it's disingenuous to compare the Alien franchise, espec the original, with Species, but that's where my mind goes when talking about 'goo' and pure, or half, breeds.

''PROMETHEUS, Ridley Scott's kind-of prequel to ALIEN, that we're all terribly excited for, is said to have strains of Alien DNA and will take place within the same universe. More rumors have come out of just how much of that DNA lies in the film.''

"Remember how the alien took on canine qualities after gestating in a dog? You may even suppose that the first film's alien was so recognizably humanoid because it had grown in a human. The same applies here: generation by generation, the creature mutates. As Prometheus begins, the xenomorph is not too recognizable. Sure, it has that alien DNA that Scott and Fassbender teasingly referred to, but it's missing... well, it's missing human DNA. Or dog DNA."

Im guessing that these canisters with the goo contain strains of DNA.

So good.

Oh god.

SO GOOD.

Getting a distinct "Man who fell to Earth" Bowie feels from this character.

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And I love it.

Soooo glad I joined this forum :laugh:

Great pics!  ;D

Anyone notice what looks like an alien clinging to the roof over the guys in white in the pic of the woman with the buckled knees?

Also, those "cryopods" look like the Grav-Couches from Event Horizon, which would be awesome, as Grav-couches are more hard scifi than cryopods and also would be needed for a ship that'll accelerate over a set amount of G, especially for that Time Dilation to be noticable.

"David" looks suitably creepy, as those Vickers, the pic of the guy in the HEV Suit examining something looks like theyre examining someone with a proto-facehugger on them, although its hard to tell with the brightness/contrast so high in the pic.

I think everyone has covered everything else atm, but I'm so glad I checked in today!  :D

Imagine all those pics in HD  :o
Time to release the teaser...trailer...footage...ah whatsoever!

SO to think about. Since this is before Alien. This could be how the alien started; as goo, and as they attack hosts they evolve and evolve. It sort of makes sense.

Would love to see the actual video now! Come on - share the video now! lol

Bri ::)

The movie looks promising!

Thanks to those who saved and shared the pics.
Teaser should be around the corner, probably with Rise of POTA.

I'm suprised whay the amount of people who are actually surprised it looks like an ALIEN film.
It started as an ALIEN direct prequel then it moved to a story taking place in the same universe.
Meaning we would get human tech and Space Jockey tech that looks like the one we already know but a whole new story that do not finish with the crash of the space jockey ship on LV426.

So yeah it's a space jockey ship, but not THE derelict from ALIEN.
It's from the same technologie but is different.
There will be no LINK to the events of ALIEN.
It's a companion, spin off, side story.

As for the pics they reveal a lot.

The Space Jockey ship/cave is not discovered on Earth (they all wear spacesuits, but then at one point they remove the helmets meaning the air is friendly to humans in that space Jockey ship).

So the Space Jockey ship that appears in the first minutes of the movie that takes place at the begining of time do not stay there but must leave some trace since the PROMETHEUS is launched on a mission.
Mission wich includes suits, scientists AND Believers as Charlize Theron said in the SDCC press confrence.
Believers in the theory that some ancient Alien race visited Earth and did something there (impregnated Life maybe since it's what the Space Jockey aka Engeeners do).

Then we have the Space Jockey ship itself.
Either that central part has the Space Jockey/Engeener under it in hypersleep, either it's the top of the big head.
But don't you find weird that the Head looks so Human? Nose, ears, neck...
I always had the theory that the Space Jockey under the suit looks like a tall human, probably fused with biomechanical tech.

Scott also stated that what they will find will evicerate them, from some of the pics you can see that members of the crew are infected by something. I would say either a new parasite that does the same as the Chestbuster or some kind of DNA fusion that transform a +human into something else.

Wow almost a year yet to go...
Its gonna be a tough one to wait for ^^

Quote from: KFS on Aug 01, 2011, 09:20:16 PM
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Scott also stated that what they will find will evicerate them, from some of the pics you can see that members of the crew are infected by something. I would say either a new parasite that does the same as the Chestbuster or some kind of DNA fusion that transform a +human into something else.

that would be cool.
i'm trying to get a sense of what is being flamed in that pic.seems alien but human size.it's hard to make sense of anything.this movie is gonna big.i hope it has 2hours plus

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A...Are those Xenomorph eggs? They sure look like it!

I'm liking more what I see here, people! I'm LIKING IT A LOT!!  ;D

BRING ON PROMETHEUS!!

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Def looks like something standing there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFetLrBOtgg# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFetLrBOtgg#)

I think the mood of this track fits this thread perfectly.

Only thing that annoys me for now is that for the moment all seems very familiar.
Human Spaceship on a mission finds some alien stuff, inside weird alien creatures, then back on the ship shit happens.
I really hope it's juste the tip of the iceberg.
I wanna see whole alien civilisations, epic and wide scenes not just humans hiding or searching in spaceship corridors.
Already saw that.

Quote from: KFS on Aug 01, 2011, 10:19:18 PM
Only thing that annoys me for now is that for the moment all seems very familiar.
Human Spaceship on a mission finds some alien stuff, inside weird alien creatures, then back on the ship shit happens.
I really hope it's juste the tip of the iceberg.
I wanna see whole alien civilisations, epic and wide scenes not just humans hiding or searching in spaceship corridors.
Already saw that.

It looks way 'bigger' than just another Alien1979. Also i think the story is way more complex (judging from the images and interviews). especcialy when there space jockeys involved. There can be so much done withing that concept.

Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 01, 2011, 10:05:42 PM
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Quote from: Snowdog on Aug 01, 2011, 10:35:10 PM

Quote from: KFS on Aug 01, 2011, 10:19:18 PM
Only thing that annoys me for now is that for the moment all seems very familiar.
Human Spaceship on a mission finds some alien stuff, inside weird alien creatures, then back on the ship shit happens.
I really hope it's juste the tip of the iceberg.
I wanna see whole alien civilisations, epic and wide scenes not just humans hiding or searching in spaceship corridors.
Already saw that.

It looks way 'bigger' than just another Alien1979. Also i think the story is way more complex (judging from the images and interviews). especcialy when there space jockeys involved. There can be so much done withing that concept.

I know and hope it will be.
But well i'm sorry but from the pictures themselves it does not look any bigger.
What we are seeing here is not part of the biggers epic parts, if there is any.
Humans in spaceship interiors, Human in spacesuit in harsh then alien environnement (as big or bigger than the derelict), humans fighting against human sized foes (flamethrower, and gun aiming).
I'msure that the teaser is supposed to make us think that we are in familiar grounds then the next teaser or trailers will hint at completely new and unseen stuff in the Alien universe.
I just hope that the Space Jockey's civilisation is not limited to this chamber, ship, cave that they find.

I have a feeling then when we are done with PROMETHEUS it may be that ALIEN seems like a spin off of this film instead  PROMETHEUS may in fact not include SPACE JOCKEY'S in the way we are expecting it to either. I have a feeling that we are finding ruins or some kind of ruins or maybe that there is an even more direct connection between the humans and the alien DNA.

At the end of the last feature on the making of A:R in the ALIEN ANTHOLOGY...there is talk of what comes next and one of the curious additions is a lot of talk of what happens when we mix the alien's dna with human dna.

Im thinking there is something to the head looking human as well

CainsSon,
i don't think it a ruin, looks more like a dormant ship (i really hope we're gonna discover a living civilization not only relics of it wich could be the cas since the SJ from ALIENS seemed from eons ago, a sole SJ survivor woud be really a shame).
Those urns must not be dangerous at first, the xeno eggs were stored in a lower chamber far from the Space Jockey here they are on the same level as the pilot room (BTW i think the SJ pilot is hidden in the head).
Must be some "seeds" of life  that the human will temper with, or even SJ seeds or DNA.
I bet my money on human creted by SJ, then Human mixed with some alien dna create something else.
Also that the SJ will have a lot to share phisicaly with their human creations.

RoaryUK
Sorry my fellow ssfreak ^^ bigger sets doesnt mean bigger scope to me.
Practical sets instead of CGI doesnt mean bigger scope to me.
These shot could be from ALIEN, juste a wider shot of the derelict ship or some other room.
If Ridley had as much money as he does today he would probably have done the same thing and extend the Derelict set furthermore.
See what i mean?

Bigger scope to me, means new horizons, new environnement and situation.
What we saw from the Icelandic shoots THAT! is new to the ALIEN universe, THAT is bigger, epic scope to me.

For the moment like i said we are in known territory. It feels like home.
But i want more that just feel the old ALIEN vibe again.

I know that Scott would have not bethered to come back on board if it was just to rehash his own movie and i'm pretty sure that we will get these new strange worlds and situations of epic proportions.
Like i said i want to see civilizations not just one guy from it and also with FOX i'm always worried.

I am so excited about this HOly shit those pictures are insane those must have been taken from a cam record
i wish they would upload the video XD

when they made prepared the footage for comic con the film wasn't even finished shooting.so they just put together some shots from the movie.simple shots.because the wide-shots and big epic scenes need a lot of post production.and they didn't even start that.all we saw was meant to show the mood of the movie and to build some anticipation.remember it's not even a teaser trailer.it was just a reel acompanied with behind the scenes footage.we won't see anything big untill next year when they'll show the full trailer and featurettes.

anyway come on people.it's too early to moan

Who's moaning?
Can't you read?

I tought my point was clear:

QuoteFor the moment like i said we are in known territory. It feels like home.
But i want more that just feel the old ALIEN vibe again.

I know that Scott would have not bethered to come back on board if it was just to rehash his own movie and i'm pretty sure that we will get these new strange worlds and situations of epic proportions.

Is forbidden to emit ideas, feeling about those pics not just "wow i'm gonna piss my pants its so f**king cool blah blah blah blah..." without being called moaner,hater or whatever?

Love the pictures.  8)

I can't see where people are going with the DNA "thing" though.

It would make the egg's and the facehugger's redundant in the whole process.

Quote from: EarthAngel on Aug 01, 2011, 10:00:46 PM
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Def looks like something standing there.

Haha, on second thought it's probably just another astronaut. Guess I was looking too hard. :P

Thank god, these were finally posted! I was starting to think I was going crazy when I thought I saw vehicles in the teaser!

Wait till you guys see this in High Def. Amazing!   8)

Oh, and when I saw the teaser, those 'eggs' didn't look like eggs... but some sort of hexagonal pillars or spaced out.  I immediately thought they reminded me of Egyptian 'coptic jars'.  Jars that would hold the remains of the dead.... something to think about... then they show the shot of the goo covered arm! eeeew.  http://quistlink.com/WK%202/egyptian_jars.htm (http://quistlink.com/WK%202/egyptian_jars.htm)

I don't remember seeing any shots of an alien or jockey in the footage. maybe theres one hidden somewhere?

Quote from: biosynth on Aug 02, 2011, 01:06:22 AM
Thank god, these were finally posted! I was starting to think I was going crazy when I thought I saw vehicles in the teaser!

Wait till you guys see this in High Def. Amazing!   8)

Oh, and when I saw the teaser, those 'eggs' didn't look like eggs... but some sort of hexagonal pillars or spaced out.  I immediately thought they reminded me of Egyptian 'coptic jars'.  Jars that would hold the remains of the dead.... something to think about... then they show the shot of the goo covered arm! eeeew.  http://quistlink.com/WK%202/egyptian_jars.htm (http://quistlink.com/WK%202/egyptian_jars.htm)

I don't remember seeing any shots of an alien or jockey in the footage. maybe theres one hidden somewhere?

You'll know this better than me having seen the trailer as you say, but could those "eggs" have been containers of some kind, for the goo we know exists??

This is going to be a really great film.

We know that the crew gets stranded on a distant world, plus those scenes with the giant head, they do look slightly different to the Derelict interior - mainly in that those urn structures placed on the ground are less numerous and not arranged like the eggs in ALIEN. Of course this can be explained by the Jockey-Xeno creating its nest in the bowels of the ship, changing its layout.

Seeing as we dont see the top of the Giant Head (which is apparently the pilot for a ship as stated in early material), it could be that the Pilot Jockey as seen in ALIEN would come out from the top of it, explaining the empty Jockey plinth. Perhaps this is new tech that replaces the need for the Jockey-Pilot, an AI that allows Jockeys to other things onboard their ship.

This film will link to ALIEN (obviously now) but the Jockey on LV-426 was eons old. Through this film we'll surely see just what a Jockey-Xeno looks like and also how it occurs. It obviously happened to the Derelict but this film will show humans witnessing this event firsthand on a newer Jockey ship/planet.

Points that make me wonder about the Believers, Scott said when they reach their destination and meet the civilisation, they are very uncivilised compared to what they thought they would be... just what are the Jockeys like, I wonder?

I am really looking forward to seeing this film now, the creature effects are what Im waiting for the most, also I wonder if this film will solve the whole "The Company did/didnt know the specifics of the alien beforehand" question.

What we know - The Company is Weylan Corp, they havent merged with Yutani yet (setting the merger sometime between 2085 and 2122 [first official mention I can find is 2108] AvP and fanfic writers!). In ALIEN they planned for the Nostromo to go from Thedus to Zeta 2 Reticuli, with their plant Ash onboard (They knew the system the alien signal came from and wanted a specimen). This doesnt answer if they knew there were Jockeys or xenos there btw.
(I also wouldnt mind a cameo from a young 16 year old spaceship mechanic Brett on Earth before the crew leaves btw - just for the fanservice).

Amaizing for you guys, you finally got to see the little something that was shown at Comic con, but in pictures. Feel kinda sad because it is not exclusive for me and biosynthanymore ;)

Quote from: ElderPredator on Aug 01, 2011, 05:56:19 PM
I think its time for me to come back to this forum, great screenshots.

But what the hell is going on here?
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_21.jpg

Seems like a couple of possibilities. 1.) The earlier technology of the cryotubes has some temporary effects or something went wrong with it.
2.) That character is an android and something is f**king up with her. or 3.) They tested something on her to see what the effects would be.

Quote from: RoaryUK on Aug 02, 2011, 01:18:24 AM

Quote from: biosynth on Aug 02, 2011, 01:06:22 AM
Thank god, these were finally posted! I was starting to think I was going crazy when I thought I saw vehicles in the teaser!

Wait till you guys see this in High Def. Amazing!   8)

Oh, and when I saw the teaser, those 'eggs' didn't look like eggs... but some sort of hexagonal pillars or spaced out.  I immediately thought they reminded me of Egyptian 'coptic jars'.  Jars that would hold the remains of the dead.... something to think about... then they show the shot of the goo covered arm! eeeew.  http://quistlink.com/WK%202/egyptian_jars.htm (http://quistlink.com/WK%202/egyptian_jars.htm)

I don't remember seeing any shots of an alien or jockey in the footage. maybe theres one hidden somewhere?

You'll know this better than me having seen the trailer as you say, but could those "eggs" have been containers of some kind, for the goo we know exists??

Heh, your guess is as good as mine ;)

a point going through my head lately is based on the fact that Ridley voiced interest in somehow beating Cameron's AVATAR in some way.  I think it's not AVATAR he's interested in beating, but ALIENS.  If somehow Ridley creates a world where a queen alien isn't needed (as written about in Alan Dean Foster's ALIEN novel) thus a slap to Cameron's version of the world?  Could this be his checkmate at reclaiming this world?

I await the 'great rift' if this is so.

another thing I noticed about the biomechanical set. Many of the 'egg-crates' are different sizes and not all the same height/shapes. Interesting.

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Quote from: biosynth on Aug 02, 2011, 02:51:47 AM
a point going through my head lately is based on the fact that Ridley voiced interest in somehow beating Cameron's AVATAR in some way.  I think it's not AVATAR he's interested in beating, but ALIENS.  If somehow Ridley creates a world where a queen alien isn't needed (as written about in Alan Dean Foster's ALIEN novel) thus a slap to Cameron's version of the world?  Could this be his checkmate at reclaiming this world?

I await the 'great rift' if this is so.

Scott liked both ALIENS and the Queen character. He has nothing to 'reclaim' and in fact doesn't seem excited about revisiting the Alien as we know it in his ALIEN film anyway. There may not be as much silly drama on the forums on this issue as you're hoping for, but there's always a 'Lambert rape' and 'Alien 3 Sulaco egg/Bishop II' shitfest going on somewhere.

Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 02, 2011, 02:59:26 AM

Quote from: biosynth on Aug 02, 2011, 02:51:47 AM
a point going through my head lately is based on the fact that Ridley voiced interest in somehow beating Cameron's AVATAR in some way.  I think it's not AVATAR he's interested in beating, but ALIENS.  If somehow Ridley creates a world where a queen alien isn't needed (as written about in Alan Dean Foster's ALIEN novel) thus a slap to Cameron's version of the world?  Could this be his checkmate at reclaiming this world?

I await the 'great rift' if this is so.

Scott liked both ALIENS and the Queen character. He has nothing to 'reclaim' and in fact doesn't seem excited about revisiting the Alien as we know it in his ALIEN film anyway. There may not be as much silly drama on the forums on this issue as you're hoping for, but there's always a 'Lambert rape' and 'Alien 3 Sulaco egg/Bishop II' shitfest going on somewhere.

Weren't Scott and Cameron due to make an Alien 5 before Fox decided to go down the AVP path, or was that just rumour?

Speaking of Lambert. One of those stills looks like the scene in ALIEN when Lambert, Dallas and Cain are in the air lock compartment awaiting the outer door to be opened. Very cool.

They were gonna do it, but FOX made AVP instead.

Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 02, 2011, 02:59:26 AM

Quote from: biosynth on Aug 02, 2011, 02:51:47 AM
a point going through my head lately is based on the fact that Ridley voiced interest in somehow beating Cameron's AVATAR in some way.  I think it's not AVATAR he's interested in beating, but ALIENS.  If somehow Ridley creates a world where a queen alien isn't needed (as written about in Alan Dean Foster's ALIEN novel) thus a slap to Cameron's version of the world?  Could this be his checkmate at reclaiming this world?

I await the 'great rift' if this is so.

Scott liked both ALIENS and the Queen character. He has nothing to 'reclaim' and in fact doesn't seem excited about revisiting the Alien as we know it in his ALIEN film anyway. There may not be as much silly drama on the forums on this issue as you're hoping for, but there's always a 'Lambert rape' and 'Alien 3 Sulaco egg/Bishop II' shitfest going on somewhere.

I expected as much from someone with ALIENS all over their post!!!  ;D Heh, I'm just kidding, Valaquen. . . not trying to start drama, that's for the "Who would win: Batman vs Predator" arguments. ;)

Quote from: biosynth on Aug 02, 2011, 03:24:45 AM
  ;D Heh, I'm just kidding, Valaquen. . . not trying to start drama, that's for the "Who would win: Batman vs Predator" arguments. ;)

;D [answer: Batman, of course!]

Lots of speculation going on. Here's my 2 cents on some things. The clean look, as opposed to dirty look of Alien, is basically a blue collar mission as opposed to a white collar mission, prometheus being the latter. the eggs, if they are in fact a creation by the space jockeys as a bio weapon are perhaps and earlier prototype. as for the giant head, from what I recall was supposed to be piloting a ship? I was always thinking it was the human ship but clearly not from these pics, so if it is actually a ship pilot then that is a huge ship, like the derelict and not a "cave". of course that is if the pilot theory holds true. fun speculation, but i think we can all agree on our excitement here

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Probably my favorite of the bunch, I got chills when I first saw it. Dat Nostromo vibe.

havn't people already confirmed from the footage they they are infact urne objects and not eggs as we know them

Yes, and you see as well that those "jars"/"urns" are no eggs.

Scott said he had to rethink the creatures, reverse engineer them cause the're not scary anymore.
Ancient alien, creating species, DNA, Engineers of worlds...

So no eggs. No facehuggers. No chestbuster. No Xeno.

I'd say Urns. DNA goo. metamorphosis.

I really think that the big head piloting the ship, is actually the SJ hypesleep rack..
Inside it the SJ is dormant.

maybe the ship is some kind of noah's arc with the dna of thousands of different creatures contained in these urns...

Quote from: azrael55 on Aug 02, 2011, 10:28:52 AM
maybe the ship is some kind of noah's arc with the dna of thousands of different creatures contained in these urns...

I like that idea.

Jeah some kind of DNA starter kit for new terraformed worlds

Like Titan AE

I know its sci-fi, but people seems to think DNA is everything.

DNA = instant organism?

Well then call it "Liquid Matter", "Storage fluid" or "Space Jockey goo" ;D

I like the "space jockey goo" thing,
sounds verry legit.

also people are saying this is a ship. There no proof or actually footage to suggest that this is a ship at all. It could be a structure deep within the planet which the cave pictures seem to suggest

also seems like alot of people are applying the knowledge from alien into this film. It maybe in the end but i think people need to start thinking outside of alien for this film.

and dna. I think scott ment that as a metaphore for the story structure not actual dna

^ There probably is a cave and planet landscape, but it was said early on that a Giant Head (in CG, I wonder if the face moves?) would pilot a ship, so the shots of the Giant Head surrounded by the various sizd urns in all probability come from a Jockey-ships interior.
Thats not to say the other Derelict-like interiors do, but I'd say the Head ones are from within a Jockey ship. I dont know for sure, this film is looking immense, just saying IMHO.

Quote from: Terx2 on Aug 01, 2011, 08:48:28 AMOk there a picture of a spacesuit guy bending over to look at something, a non-human hand pressing green buttons (I hope that's the space jockeys hand) and a cavern or pit full of possibly eggs..... Awesome. I think I just had a heart attack.

*Terx2 collapses from too much awesomeness*

That's a human hand.

Did you not notice the large spacesuits/body armor the humans were wearing in some shots? It's just a human hand wearing an armored glove.

Maybe the "Planet" IS a SHIP!!! :o lol

Quote from: nendo on Aug 02, 2011, 12:30:14 PM
and dna. I think scott ment that as a metaphore for the story structure not actual dna

and to it's look, but i agree.

we will see alien related things, no matter in which way we are expecting things.
people will get slaughtered, we will get scarred and we will get a inner look to the origins of alien & sc-fi it self.
i hope to see a awesome ending like in 2001 (the beginning of prometheus also...) and the terror of an movie like alien but updated to this century.
i can't understand people who are moaning of the fact we are getting scared again like in alien.
since alien we never got the chance to shit in our pants in one other of the alien movies. maybe alien³ comes close to this but, nah...

i don't really care anymore will we see a xeno, or not. i just want a freekin' movie, w/spectacular effects, disturbing set-design, psychological fear & terror and also michael fassbender as an droid!
i want that questions, from alien & aliens will be answered, like the origin of the SJ and the xenomorph and the terraforming thing as well, but i want the myth not to be demystify.

I thinks it's a ship for 2 reasons.
A SJ ship is in the scenes shot on Iceland taking place on Earth ate the beginning of time.
From the pics of the entrance, there is like a sas. First is the stone round door, then we get a biomechanical entrance.
Also it was one of the rumors, that proved to be right, that a ship is piloted by a giant head (wich i think is not alive but the hypesleep rack for the SJ pilot).

As for the DNA, i think it's both a metaphor and literal.
hes said this before we got the images leaks, before we knew the SJ and their biomechanical tech would be in.
They are still on the fence about saying clearly that it's an ALIEN movie.
They rather say it has DNA of the ALIEN movies.
Play it coy.

Then from the concepts at work here, Alien ancient race, bioengineering, world builders, Earth at its dawn and from what we see in those pics for me there is no doubt about DNA itself playing a role in the movie.

Quotei can't understand people who are moaning of the fact we are getting scared again like in alien.

Me what i can't understand is those who can't read properly.
I also dont understand why it's moaning to say that i don't want a rehash of the original Alien (knowing that the original prequel was something like that but not Prometheus).

Quote from: bobby brown on Aug 02, 2011, 11:10:00 AM
I know its sci-fi, but people seems to think DNA is everything.

DNA = instant organism?

I really want to see how this

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Ask those guys:

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Hell, that's what i call i mixup...we've got James Cameron from Terminator in here, Spaceships from Star Trek, Mrs. Weaver AND goo from Ghostbusters II  :o

Are those eggs I see in those pics?

And again: NO  ;D

My teory...
There´s no ALIENS in this movie,but humans who were transformed into biomechanic creatures. ;)

Then perhaps these are not cryopods/sleeping pods.

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Perhaps the green glowy gelatin surrounding them is...um...the green thing found in the egg-like containers/alien DNA?
If you look carefully in the second picture, the pod in the foreground...the person inside seems to be covered with the gelatin.

Those are what they seem, hypersleep racks.

And it's been known for long that there is no xeno in PROMETHEUS.

If i were Ridley Scott i would add Predators or Smurfs (or hey it's PG13 so how 'bout Hannah Montana) to this movie without releasing any infos or screenshots 'bout it.
Faces of hardcore fans in cinema => priceless

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 02, 2011, 01:28:57 PM
Then perhaps these are not cryopods/sleeping pods.

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Perhaps the green glowy gelatin surrounding them is...um...the green thing found in the egg-like containers/alien DNA?
If you look carefully in the second picture, the pod in the foreground...the person inside seems to be covered with the gelatin.

The light emitting from these cryopods look more yellow-y to me, as opposed to the stark green goo from the other shot.

The shot of the woman in the doorway with wonky legs is surely just her dropping to her knees? It just looks like an awkward knee drop to me, not some weird mutated leg incident.

Quote from: robbritton on Aug 02, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
The shot of the woman in the doorway with wonky legs is surely just her dropping to her knees? It just looks like an awkward knee drop to me, not some weird mutated leg incident.

It could be a sign of weakness from long hypersleep? Just an idea! It would make sense.

Bri :)

Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Aug 02, 2011, 01:34:29 PM
If i were Ridley Scott i would add Predators or Smurfs (or hey it's PG13 so how 'bout Hannah Montana) to this movie without releasing any infos or screenshots 'bout it.
Faces of hardcore fans in cinema => priceless

True Horror!
I think I would actually faint/throw-up or just leave the cinema. You could see the TV Spots, the audiences face lit up with nightvision, grown men crying. The tagline..........."THE MOST SHOCKING FILM SINCE ALIEN!"

What if the green thing it's actually how the aliens were being born, and after they came in contact with the SJ and hatched from them, they took some huge traits, like the egg-sack for the queen, the eggs, the facehugger that kinda resembles the Space Jockey from the first movie (white and looks like a walking bone hand), maybe these were part of the Space Jockey's DNA, and it affected the aliens in a huge way.

Maybe this green goo is some kind of energy drink to keep those SJ awake during their long flights  ;)

KFS...There WILL be aliens in Prometheus as previously reported. They just will not be in the form we are used to seeing them in. This IS an alien film. Make no mistake. At the very least it's a monster movie. Whether those monsters are the Space Jockeys (which they will be in part) or their frankenstein-like experiments (the aliens) we are still in familiar territory.

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Aug 02, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
KFS...There WILL be aliens in Prometheus as previously reported. They just will not be in the form we are used to seeing them in. This IS an alien film. Make no mistake. At the very least it's a monster movie. Whether those monsters are the Space Jockeys (which they will be in part) or their frankenstein-like experiments (the aliens) we are still in familiar territory.

You're not reading me right.
you will see that i use the term xeno.
aliens= xeno as we know them, not as in aliens= E.T. beings.
I know there will be new biomechanoid alien creatures.
But i won't call them aliens coz there are a new/older/different form or race of creatures.
It will mix up things for fans and non fans alike.

And yes we will be in the same territory (again you did not read my previous post where i talk about known ground from what we saw) but not for long since Scott have not signed to rehash his own movie (wich was the original project when it was an Alien prequel directed by Scott son in law Carl Rinsch), Scott wants to top Cameron and his AVATAR in terms of scope. We ar not in the hauted house in space ride again, at least not before the climax from what the accurate marketsaw reports stated.

Quote from: robbritton on Aug 02, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
The shot of the woman in the doorway with wonky legs is surely just her dropping to her knees? It just looks like an awkward knee drop to me, not some weird mutated leg incident.

Definetly a creation that went wrong you can even see the scientists in the back. man steals jockey tech try to create something and shit happens.

Quote from: Infected on Aug 02, 2011, 06:40:46 PM

Quote from: robbritton on Aug 02, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
The shot of the woman in the doorway with wonky legs is surely just her dropping to her knees? It just looks like an awkward knee drop to me, not some weird mutated leg incident.

Definetly a creation that went wrong you can even see the scientists in the back. man steals jockey tech try to create something and shit happens.

May be it's a dramatic scene.

Weird thing is that the characters in the background seem all bald.
Let me fanfic for a sec ^^
What if the Prometheus crew story takes years, lets says they meet the space jockey some become his diciples (the bald guys) others refuses but still stay then stuff go bad at some point and humans turn against each other using the SJ tech to destroy each others.
Probably wont be that but hey i'm having fun ^^

Quote from: Infected on Aug 02, 2011, 06:40:46 PM

Quote from: robbritton on Aug 02, 2011, 03:11:27 PM
The shot of the woman in the doorway with wonky legs is surely just her dropping to her knees? It just looks like an awkward knee drop to me, not some weird mutated leg incident.

Definetly a creation that went wrong you can even see the scientists in the back. man steals jockey tech try to create something and shit happens.

It's probably just after-effects of the cryo sleep. One of the people in the background is in a wheelchair, if you look, and all the rest are sitting / kneeling, so it'd make sense. She tried to get up and walk too soon, BAM! Legs give way. Doesn't need any more explanation than that.

Don't think that they're bald, it's just the bad quality...zoom in, you'll see some dark pixels on their heads.

I think you're right.
One seems to be blond could be Theron.
But i'm sure something weird happens here.
The 3 Characters are all wearing white infirmary type clothes and the one entering is in full gear.

As for the Space Jockey i think the enswers are all here, this report is from way before the SDCC footage and it already talk about the giant head :

   

QuoteI was speaking with a guy who is working on the set of prometheus and he showed me some pictures and told me a bout the storyline. The space jockey that you see in alien who has had his chest busted open is the guy who engineers the aliens. He sends the aliens to planet that he wants to take over. The aliens kill the locals and he flys in and pillages the land of its resources. It seems as though he is responsible for the aliens creation, i'm guessing that he is some kind of super scientist.

    The engineer is played by some huge guy who is 8ft tall. He appears even bigger in the space jockey scene from Alien as he is wearing a space suit. He appears to have died in a seat that looks like it is some sort of weapon control, this is in fact the navigation system that the space ship uses to open worm holes and plot its course. Perhaps the aliens revolted and, knowing that he has been impregnated, he is desperately trying to return home to have the alien extricated?

    He showed me some pictures from the set. There is a huge silver bust of the engineers head, it is approximately 15m high. It appears that the engineer is sort of leader of a civilisation and there is a cult around his personality and his alien creations, this is probably due to the fact that he has mastered the technology that continues to provide the resource requirements of his home world. I also saw a picture of the actor who plays the engineer in what appeared to be some sort of cryo-chamber.

On one of the photos we see one throws  flame in action! But what can he burn? ???

Un français surement ^^

Quote from: bworko on Aug 02, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
On one of the photos we see one throws  flame in action! But what can he burn? ???

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awesome JD, awesome

Well ok i hope it has some good new ideas as well and some different scenes, copy the movie 1:1 insures to have the same feeling but could get lame...remember Boondock Saints 1&2? Sequel copied many scenes 1:1 but still sucked.

Never....you're comparing these films to Boondock Saints? Really? Really?

I'm not comparing the movies themselves, i'm comparing the idea to copy the feeling of a movie (without any new ideas) - but i'm up to 99% sure that Scott won't make this mistake since he is an awesome director.

Thanks for illustrating what i was saying before.
For the moment it's ALIEN redux by the book but i know that all the epic new stuff is yet to bee seen.
Scott i making us know that he can make thunder strike twice then he will exeed our expectations.

'ALIEN redux by the book'

Aside from a general feel of the original ALIEN....please elaborate on your assumptions.

*Ahem*

I've been hoping all along and now I'm going to say it.

This IS an Alien prequel... I'm sure all the spin they are putting on Promethus being stand alone is just to be able to give us a few shocking surprises and keep the story under wraps.

I must say... it just looks amazing, I can't wait.

Xenoscream
Mate it's not an direct Alien prequel per se, meaning the event of this film will not lead to the launch of the Nostromo nor the crash of the Derelict on LV426. It's a companion piece, a side story.
It takes place in the same universe and features the SJ race but no xenomorphs as we know them.
Scott has already a follow up to PROMETHEUS in mind wich will go further away from the ALIEN licence.

They wont call it ALIEN for 2 reasons.
ALIEN licence is dead in the water, the average movigoer is not gonna rush in to see another Alien movie thanks to shitty Resurection and AVPs.
Second it wont feature THE Aliens aka Xenomorphs.
But yeah to us fans it's almost a prequel coz we will link stuff to the original ALIEN but it's not a prequel in the sense we are used to like the Star Wars prequel for exemple where you get to know from A to Z how anakin became Vader.
Here you will not see any of the characters from ALIEN save for the SJ race.

ThisBethesdaSea
Again?
Just read my previous posts in this thread mate.
If you can't see from the pics comparaisons that Scott has recreated the look and feel of ALIEN i can do nothing for you.
Human spaceship visit new planet, discover E.T. artefacts, shit happens.
This is what the SDCC reel montage conveys, an ALIEN redux.
We are in common grounds.
BUT BUT BUT BUT i know that Scott did it on purpose.
It's like he's saying "Look guys i can make ALIEN again if i want to but i got more weird shit to show you just wait...".

I'll put it that way, if you were not aware of anything we are talking in this forum but what the mainstream medias or regular movigoers know from those images what would you think? Scott is doing Alien all over again.

And once and for all ill say it again i know there is more.

Revisiting and 'redoing' ALIEN all over again are two separate issues. But, at this point it's semantics. I get what you're saying. Your word usage has a non-chalant, yet flippant tone about them, which maybe you intended? 'Same ol' shit but it's gonna be so different, just wait.'

LOLZ

Which is it?

Well my english semantics are probably not as accurate as yours since it's not my native language.
I think you get my point and that we agree.
I love ALIEN, it's definitly not some "same old shit" to me ^^

It does seem to me that the crew in the pods are covered in a gel-like substance. The green tint does make me think that the crew are in Grav-Couches (seriously, has noone seen Event Horizon here?  ???), where a gel locks them inplace as the ship accelerates to intolerable Gs of thrust. The crew are tranquilised and left in a near coma state, then they awaken at a time set by themselves when the ship isnt accelerating at a dangerous level of G (I think 3G would be the max limit to not be in the Couches and be comfortable).

Its basically a slightly harder scifi version of cryonics. The crew still age in the Grav-couches but time dilation at STL speeds means that at a higher acceleration in Gs, the less they'll age.

Example, accelerating to half way then decceling the rest to Zeta 2 Reticuli at 39 light years at 1G speed would take the ship nearly 41 years but the crew would percieve time as just over 7 years.
The same journey at 5G would take the ship 39 and a half years, but the crew would think 2 years have gone by.

To save on resources, like food and life support, Grav-Couches would be used as the ship's computer monitors life support, probably feeding them intravenously and making them breath a reduced amount of oxygen for survival.

Although the Grav-couch itself has some problems when based in reality (the gel needs to be an exact mass, liquid breathing is not perfected based on our tech level yet), it is much more believable than freezing someone for the same reasons, as people who are frozen like that, have a tendency to not wake back up  ::)

Thats why I'd say the crew pods are tinted with a colour.  ;D

Design is looking pretty swift.

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The shot of the woman in the doorway with wonky legs is surely just her dropping to her knees? It just looks like an awkward knee drop to me, not some weird mutated leg incident.

Definetly a creation that went wrong you can even see the scientists in the back. man steals jockey tech try to create something and shit happens.

It's probably just after-effects of the cryo sleep. One of the people in the background is in a wheelchair, if you look, and all the rest are sitting / kneeling, so it'd make sense. She tried to get up and walk too soon, BAM! Legs give way. Doesn't need any more explanation than that.

That's what I meant, yeah.

I'm not convinced on the wheelchair thing, though - could just be a swishly designed chair, couldn't it? Looks like something Geoffrey Drayton would sell!

All the guessing is fun, though, innit?!

I got an idea with all this things we have as for now
It may be possible that this goo contained in the urns is like the previous  stage of the eggs/xenos? Let me explain:
We know that the SJ terraform or have something to do with creating, managing of worlds and maybe their habitants also. Maybe for extracting their resources, or for whatever goal they have.
Could they have let us the key to get to a distant planet (don't have to be their own homeworld, maybe an outpost for this matters or something) so when our race was enough technologically developed we could get there? Once we get there is the signal that we are in the point of our evolution where they have to stop us or take over the control of our planet for their purposes (maybe workers for them, etc..).
So now comes into play the way they  take control over us or clean the planet. All the urns contains this goo that once mixed with our dna they create the perfect killer for our race  based in our traits. They only need to take one of the specimens that got into their place to start the process. This goo begins the process then of transforming into the eggs we know. Once all the eggs are created the SJ can come to our world and just spread them to start the decimation. In this case it could be that the characters of Prometheus are able to stop the SJ in his way to earth and it ends crashing in LV-426 with his cargo.
What I have not clear yet is why would they want our planet for or why wait until we can space-travel (sign of some technical development). Maybe the SJ we all know is the last of his race? And what he tries is to do a repopulation on our planet because our planet is very similar to his own? For doing this he uses the goo that transforms us into his kind? And if something goes wrong?
These are just some thoughts that could be just plain stupid. Maybe it is the effect of being bored at work right now. Sorry for my English also.

I know how it feels to be bored at work....you may be working in the same office i am in!

Some interesting ideas but I ma not sure that the SJ's would create us only to wipe us out at a later stage for no apparent reason.
The synopsis doing the rounds earlier indicated that retribuation may follow a theft which would be a resonable motive.

I can go home in 4 hours 11 minutes!

Me too, 4 more hours to go! :D
But man does this movie entertain me!
Yes, definetly that part of the reasons for them to put us here to whipe us later on don´t have much sense.
But what seems possible is that this goo contained in the urns is going to be mixed with humans and then create their perfect destructive machine, the Alien as we know. And maybe also that some of the humans are able to stop th SJ in his way to earth to deliver the eggs..
Oh well, is only guessing, but is so wonderfull  :laugh:

Just an idea based on what is being said.

What if:
archaelogical dig on earth.
Find coordinates.
But also find new energy source=all the green/yellow glow shit.
The company want more of this energy source, since we've used all our natural resources on earth.
Hence they go space.
Energy source turns out to be the same thing as the green shit someone is possibly pulling out of an urn.

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Definately a wheelchair...maybe just out of hypersleep...the thing in the middle?...maybe something went wrong for one of them in hypersleep?

QuoteMuscles

On Earth, our muscles are constantly working – whether walking, lifting, even sitting or standing upright – during all of these normal activities our muscles are working against gravity to some degree. In a micro gravity environment, there is no appreciable force of gravity for the muscles to work against, so muscle tone is lost. This deconditioning is evident in as few as five days and is progressive. During longer flights, muscles can shrink in size and lose their strength. As the muscles continue to atrophy, they become less resistant to fatigue, and one may experience uncontrolled muscle twitches and a loss of fine motor control. There is a danger of the weakened ligaments and muscles tearing under stresses that would not be a problem under normal circumstances.

As an example, after a 211 day tour of duty on Mir, cosmonauts Berezovoy and Lebedev returned to Earth so debilitated that they had to be carried off their spacecraft, and could barely walk for a week. They required extensive rehabilitation to return to their pre-flight levels of fitness (4). However, the loss of muscle strength and control can be kept to much lower levels by exercising regularly during the mission. A good example of the success of exercise is Shannon Lucid, who after 188 days on board Mir, was able to walk off the spacecraft unassisted, and who experienced a lesser degree of muscle debilitation than she would have had she not exercised regularly during the mission. Harrison, Albert, Spacefaring: The Human Dimension, 2001, University of California Press

Yeah, I'm guessing this is the case here. If you look closely at this picture, I think you see at least one walking stick (not sure about that right one). They are just woken up and Noomi(?) is trying to walk with those stick(s) and maybe he is just clumsy and weak, about to falling on her(?) knees but... Maybe Ridley just added some humour there. ;)

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P.s. My first post in here, so hello to everybody and every alien fan!  :)

Hello Alienhog and welcome to the "The Galaxy".  You an Alien fan?  Well, can't go wrong there. ;)

I wish the movie would have background score that would be reminiscent of Alien.

I'll second that welcome Alien Dog.

On a related side note, i've noticed a lot more new "faces" around here. That is, there are people i'm used to seeing pop up in everything thread with there unrealistically high post counts. Here though, with Prometheus, it's interesting to see a lot of people that haven't even hit 50.

Guess a lot of people are along for the ride!!

Exactly, always have read the forums, just Prometheus pulled me into actually signing up and posting. Oh and by the way, hello how are you all lol... Anthony

Me being one of those, although I am lurking around since a long time and almost daily  ;)
Really excited about this movie, that´s for sure. It is going to be epic

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Me being one of those, although I am lurking around since a long time and almost daily  ;)
Really excited about this movie, that´s for sure. It is going to be epic

The Prometheus has so much power it stops people from lurking :D

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Me being one of those, although I am lurking around since a long time and almost daily  ;)
Really excited about this movie, that´s for sure. It is going to be epic

The Prometheus has so much power it stops people from lurking :D

Prometheus. The name says it all. :)

Quote from: predxeno on Aug 03, 2011, 03:02:06 PM
Hello Alienhog and welcome to the "The Galaxy".  You an Alien fan?  Well, can't go wrong there. ;)

Thanks and yeah, I've been fan since I saw the second film. I was a young boy then and we went to the woods with my friend with toy guns and started to kill aliens. :D I think I didn't saw the whole first movie until I was a teen and it wasn't as good to me then. But things have changed a lot after that. :D I think the first film is a master piece and I love the second one too, but only as a director's cut. Can't understand how Fox cut it so much. Ripley's daughter's death, even it was relevant to the plot etc. Anyways, great franchise! :)

If memory serves (and THAT'S always a dodgy way to start ANYTHING), did'nt the original Novelisation of 'Alien' have them coming out of their hypersleep chambers and having to 'towel off the goo'? Goo that was supposed to stop them being crushed to Raspberry-jam due to ridiculously high G-forces?

I seem to remember them standing around essentially naked, wiping crap off themselves, whilst having a chat about getting back home and 'the bonus-situation'...

Ah, all these new users. Brings back good memories of when I was like that. :)

But yeah, Glaive, that sounds pretty logical. The acceleration necessary to get to superluminal speeds would probably be pretty powerful.

QuoteThe acceleration necessary to get to superluminal speeds would probably be pretty powerful.

But is there any proof that the ships in the Alien franchise have FTL travel capabilities?

there isn't any goo in those pods people.if the first alien didn't had any,then this movie won't have it eitherthey have to preserve the continuity.that's just light in those pods.nothing else

Quote from: zuzuki on Aug 03, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
if the first alien didn't had any,then this movie won't have it eitherthey have to preserve the continuity.

Tech evolves or changes

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Quote from: zuzuki on Aug 03, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
if the first alien didn't had any,then this movie won't have it eitherthey have to preserve the continuity.

Tech evolves or changes

It evolves in sequels (Alien to Aliens or Alien 3 to Resurrection). But in a prequel?

On the contrary, the technology in Prometheus should be less advanced than the one in Alien. Although it seems to be otherwise.

It's also 2011.

Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 08:33:42 PM
It's also 2011.

Yes, but continuity should be their main concern. Of course, it is the same issue with the Star Wars prequels, where the technology is more advanced than in the original trilogy. I understand that times change, but if you're doing a prequel at least TRY to make the new tech blend-in somehow and make sense, rather than just dumping it on screen. Newer audience won't notice, but these movies are made first of all for those who saw the original movie(s).

We're watching a movie here, the story, the universe. It has to make sense so that it doesn't look 'fake'. It's about the atmosphere.

They've already implemented some of Alien in there.  The room where fassbender is walking in looks pretty old school.
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And keep in mind that the Prometheus ship is a different working-class ship than the Nostromo.  I wouldn't even call it a working-class ship.  It's a ship made for scientists and explorers so it would be at the VERY top of the line. 

I think that the one where they're all together in a small chamber and they have their helmets on takes place in one of the wheeled vehicles

Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
They've already implemented some of Alien in there.  The room where fassbender is walking in looks pretty old school.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_2.jpg

And keep in mind that the Prometheus ship is a different working-class ship than the Nostromo.  I wouldn't even call it a working-class ship.  It's a ship made for scientists and explorers so it would be at the VERY top of the line.

Here I agree with you.

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 03, 2011, 06:26:18 PM
But is there any proof that the ships in the Alien franchise have FTL travel capabilities?

The fact that they make voyages of several dozen lightyears in months or weeks.

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Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 08:33:42 PM
It's also 2011.

Yes, but continuity should be their main concern. Of course, it is the same issue with the Star Wars prequels, where the technology is more advanced than in the original trilogy. I understand that times change, but if you're doing a prequel at least TRY to make the new tech blend-in somehow and make sense, rather than just dumping it on screen. Newer audience won't notice, but these movies are made first of all for those who saw the original movie(s).

We're watching a movie here, the story, the universe. It has to make sense so that it doesn't look 'fake'. It's about the atmosphere.

Exactly. The Nostromo is like an oil rig whereas this ship is like a high-tech research lab.

Yeah it is two different kinds of ships completely. One was miners (Alien 1979) and now this one is of really explorers. Being explorers like some of the possible spoilers are saying about archeology dig in which they find some map or heroglyphs and all that. And Noomi saying her character was a scientist that is passionate about what she is trying to discover or prove. A mining ship would be out there constantly and dirty or whatever and this ship would have been probably made just for that mission only, to go and explore or follow a map to somewhere you know... Anthony

Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
They've already implemented some of Alien in there.  The room where fassbender is walking in looks pretty old school.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_2.jpg

And keep in mind that the Prometheus ship is a different working-class ship than the Nostromo.  I wouldn't even call it a working-class ship.  It's a ship made for scientists and explorers so it would be at the VERY top of the line.

when we are talking interiors and different gadgets yes.but cryopods?i think those are pretty standard if you do faster then light.they can't have newer tehnology cryopods 30 years before the first film.

and also remember aliens?it is set 70 years after the first movie .it has a military vessel,wich theoretically should use the latest in tehnology and be very fast.it still didn't have jelly in the pods.i still say that in those screens there is only light.

people only make the asumption it is goo because we saw the goo in the eggs and started fantasizing about it.it's stupid.also the pics we have are low quality.the contrast in them is bad.the colours are off.when we'll se the actual detailed footage are doubts will be resolved

I also remember the Pods from Resurrection (the hijacked ones). They had no goo inside either.
They might be right - they are doing the Event Horizon thing, I'm fine with that.

The thing is that the alien jars seem to have green goo inside. And those people are covered in green goo. So I don't know, it just seems to be the same thing.

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Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
They've already implemented some of Alien in there.  The room where fassbender is walking in looks pretty old school.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_2.jpg

And keep in mind that the Prometheus ship is a different working-class ship than the Nostromo.  I wouldn't even call it a working-class ship.  It's a ship made for scientists and explorers so it would be at the VERY top of the line.

when we are talking interiors and different gadgets yes.but cryopods?i think those are pretty standard if you do faster then light.they can't have newer tehnology cryopods 30 years before the first film.

and also remember aliens?it is set 70 years after the first movie .it has a military vessel,wich theoretically should use the latest in tehnology and be very fast.it still didn't have jelly in the pods.i still say that in those screens there is only light.

people only make the asumption it is goo because we saw the goo in the eggs and started fantasizing about it.it's stupid.also the pics we have are low quality.the contrast in them is bad.the colours are off.when we'll se the actual detailed footage are doubts will be resolved

I see what you are saying. But why would the goo be newer tech? If anything I think that the goo would be a step backward. Why have to clean goo off when you can just get out and be alright you know. Are they really going that much faster then the other movies, I would think it is about the same especially since this movie is basically a prequel. Plus in Alien and Aliens when they get out of the tubes they are groggy yes, but not like we think that one picture shows where it looks as if they have just awoken and one of them is falling down to their knees you know.

So yes I would think the goo is a step backwards in tech.

But I can also see where you think it is just lighting. Remember this movie is being filmed in 3D so this could be something they did to enhance the look you know... Anthony

Although it appears to be a conceit within some sci-fi novels as well as films...employing liquid or gel to suspend your body will do NOTHING to help protect you from excessive g-loads.  Your internal organs, circulatory system, connective tissues, etc. will all experience the extra g's, which will kill you slowly (at extended low g's) or very, very quickly (at high g's).  Air Force G-suits use air pressure to constrict lower extremities of a pilot's body in order to try to keep the blood from draining from the brain.  Even so, modern G-suits only play a minor part in preventing "G-LOC"...with the greater contribution coming from the pilot's physical training, and specifically the "G-Strain" technique.  Nevertheless, accelerations of 6-9 g's can only be sustained physically for a matter of seconds.

What would make sense, from a technical/scientific standpoint, would be using a liquid gel to prevent pressure ulcers (bed sores) forming in crew members who are in suspended animation.  By the way, bed sores (if untreated) will ultimately lead to infection, tissue necrosis and eventually death.  The only real solution in preventing such conditions in humans who would be immobile for long durations, would be complete immersion AND suspension in a liquid, in order to achieve a floating, neutral buoyancy.

yeah but with goo inside or liquid you would need a mask to breath air i think.
i still don't understand why people are quick to decide or to think it's goo in the pods?just because there's goo in the jars?why would then immerse themselves in their pods with that goo?doesn't make sense.
and again because the quality of the images is so bad that goo colour in the pods may be only because of the contrast in this bad pictures.or it could be a light,but a pale yellow who is enhanced by the bad camera.and now we see it as goo.

anyways doesn't matter.we are talking about it like it holds the answer of the movie :))

It's not goo or any fluid there guys.
It's a yellow lighted gel bed just like the blue one from AVATAR.
Remember when Jake puts his finger in it?
It's all soft and weird.
Same thing here but yellow.

http://www.benprocter.com/picture/linkcoffin_newgel_nervous_02.1.jpg?pictureId=8071604 (http://www.benprocter.com/picture/linkcoffin_newgel_nervous_02.1.jpg?pictureId=8071604)

I like how the cryo rack seem to come out from the walls, remind me of some concept art i saw of Scott's Forever War.

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It evolves in sequels (Alien to Aliens or Alien 3 to Resurrection). But in a prequel?

I would say goo in ya tube is a step before the tubes we see in Alien ;)
Could be better tech as well, maybe the tubes in Alien have bad side effects on humans like cancer :D
Could be on the same tech level as well, just a different version...

IF there is goo in 'em - i don't think there will be any.

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Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
They've already implemented some of Alien in there.  The room where fassbender is walking in looks pretty old school.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_2.jpg

And keep in mind that the Prometheus ship is a different working-class ship than the Nostromo.  I wouldn't even call it a working-class ship.  It's a ship made for scientists and explorers so it would be at the VERY top of the line.

when we are talking interiors and different gadgets yes.but cryopods?i think those are pretty standard if you do faster then light.they can't have newer tehnology cryopods 30 years before the first film.

Whos to say the tech in alien was state of the art brand new tech?

With a massive investment they are hardly going to just ditch a ship that size after 30 years. the tech in alien could be 70-100 years old for all we know

And the impression I get with Prommy is that its all brand spanking and state of the art.

The Prometheus ship is meant to be the badass piece of hardware, according to Shadow 19 [which I assume was the progenitor of the Alien prequel, now that Harvest was thankfully debunked]. The Nostromo was a piece of shit vehicle, falling to pieces. I don't mind if the Prometheus ship has tech not seen in Alien, or even tech that seems to out-strip it.

Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
They've already implemented some of Alien in there.  The room where fassbender is walking in looks pretty old school.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_2.jpg

And keep in mind that the Prometheus ship is a different working-class ship than the Nostromo.  I wouldn't even call it a working-class ship.  It's a ship made for scientists and explorers so it would be at the VERY top of the line.

You stick an octagonal table in that middle of that room and have John Hurt's twitching, chestbuster-raped corpse hanging over the edge of it...it would be the Nostromo.

Retro-fitting...it's something Ridley Scott was famous for (in Blade Runner)...in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the Nostromo itself was actually a decommisioned, retro-fitted Prometheus [class-ship] (or the actual one, assuming the Prometheus doesn't blow-up at the end of this movie...)

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Quote from: maddriver on Aug 03, 2011, 10:27:55 PM
I also remember the Pods from Resurrection (the hijacked ones). They had no goo inside either.
They might be right - they are doing the Event Horizon thing, I'm fine with that.

The thing is that the alien jars seem to have green goo inside. And those people are covered in green goo. So I don't know, it just seems to be the same thing.

You have totally ignored the fact  that Alien Resurrection Set 200 years after Alien 3 and there was no goo in any of the pod's EVER through all 4 installments.Its not fluid in the pods guys its just light.The pods are obviously not as advanced as the ones seen in ALIEN with the Muscle problems and the wheelchairs and all.

agreed. Tbh i never saw any green goo. All i saw was green light behind some transparent material.

kinda seems like people have got two pics that are unrelated and tried to make a connection.

Quote from: nendo on Aug 04, 2011, 10:11:05 PM
agreed. Tbh i never saw any green goo. All i saw was green light behind some transparent material.

kinda seems like people have got two pics that are unrelated and tried to make a connection.

amen.look at the picture of fassbender with that helmet visor thing on.similar light because of the contrast.but that doesn't mean he has goo inside his visor

the tecnology of prometheus looks more advanced than the nostromo, the suits, the screens, prometheus is 30 years before the alien events right?

Quote from: Stans on Aug 06, 2011, 08:07:06 AM
the tecnology of prometheus looks more advanced than the nostromo, the suits, the screens, prometheus is 30 years before the alien events right?

Prometheus is  years before Alien (I'm not sure how many :-\) and I think the technology on that ship is experimental or super advanced.

i like the gotic, retro and rudimentary tecnology showed in alien, really i don´t wanna see plasma screens or advanced 3d holograms in a movie which pretends to be a prequel of ALIEN  >:(

Alien is an old movie, normal that monitor screens are catalytic, if he had been able to make better he would have made the 3D screens with hologram and everything. Regrettably the movie went out in 1979 thus necessarily. Now this movie is of 2011 needs that there are special effects there. Because well if we compare the car of my father has more gadget than the nostromo. ;) But in the movie that can explain by the fact that the equipage which aims at returning ores does not need a great scientific vessel equipped in the point as Prometheus. We thus confided them an old vessel.

Quote from: Stans on Aug 06, 2011, 08:07:06 AM
the tecnology of prometheus looks more advanced than the nostromo, the suits, the screens, prometheus is 30 years before the alien events right?

yes but it doesn't mean the nostromo is state of the art/modern tech

Nobody catch on that the Nostromo was designed to be a bit of a bucket? A glorified space truck? Allegedly, the ship i Prometheus is pushing all tech to the limit [according to Shadow 19, apparently the Spaights' Alien prequel progenitor]

I don´t believe this...
We are in 2011 and some people still want monitors running DOS,some criticize the Star Wars prequel´s technology.Look at the cockpit monitors from the Jedi Starfighters in Episode III...they are almost identical to the TIE-Fighters from the old trilogy.

This isn't Star Wars. Modern day spacecraft aren't using any holographic projectors, 3D high-definition images with touch screens when you push them they look more like a flash animation with tons of effects.
Computer screens have to be basic, to offer a minimal interface. These guys have to work with an efficient interface, they don't care about glowing effects on their display screens.

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This is the cockpit of a NASA shuttle craft. Notice any holographic, 3D projections?
As you can see, they are using state of the art technology, but keep working with a black screen with green writings.

this is all presumption that this is actually an alien prequel, and possibly the best reason why it shouldn't be, stop people bitching out about it maybe?

Up to now,i have not seen any holographic screen in Prometeus leaked images.Only a 2D screen with a human body figure.
Nothing too advanced...

Quote from: Ivymike on Aug 06, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Up to now,i have not seen any holographic screen in Prometeus leaked images.Only a 2D screen with a human body figure.
Nothing too advanced...

Dude, that could be added with CGI...don't think that they've got a holographic device on the set  ;D

Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Aug 06, 2011, 04:05:55 PM

Quote from: Ivymike on Aug 06, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Up to now,i have not seen any holographic screen in Prometeus leaked images.Only a 2D screen with a human body figure.
Nothing too advanced...

Dude, that could be added with CGI...don't think that they've got a holographic device on the set  ;D

Oh God...
What gives you so sure that will be holographic screens in Prometheus? ::)

Quote from: Ivymike on Aug 06, 2011, 09:07:41 PM
Oh God...
What gives you so sure that will be holographic screens in Prometheus? ::)

If I recall it's due to a crewmember's facebook update talking about working on hologram table displays or something.

Quote from: Valaquen on Aug 06, 2011, 09:18:26 PM

Quote from: Ivymike on Aug 06, 2011, 09:07:41 PM
Oh God...
What gives you so sure that will be holographic screens in Prometheus? ::)

If I recall it's due to a crewmember's facebook update talking about working on hologram table displays or something.

or something. Said from memory working on the ships control panels. No mention of holograms from what i can remember

I was the one who talked to the guy.  He's a prop modeller who was there during the first few days of shooting at Pinewood.  He directly confirmed to me that there's going to be a holo table.

And I really feel that this doesn't need a huge discussion.  We've already accepted that the Prometheus is a more advanced ship than the Nostromo and we can leave it at that.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi54.tinypic.com%2F34pf2ja.jpg&hash=0c8847983fbbf5ded89fbe58873bb0645a96ad31)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=38334.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=38334.0)

Quote from: Ivymike on Aug 06, 2011, 09:07:41 PM

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Quote from: Ivymike on Aug 06, 2011, 01:34:53 PM
Up to now,i have not seen any holographic screen in Prometeus leaked images.Only a 2D screen with a human body figure.
Nothing too advanced...

Dude, that could be added with CGI...don't think that they've got a holographic device on the set  ;D

Oh God...
What gives you so sure that will be holographic screens in Prometheus? ::)

You said u haven't seen any holo screen on the leaked photos...that's clear since there can't see any on leaked pics, they would be added later.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi30.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc323%2FBlestBadge%2FUntitled-5.jpg&hash=b5638840b375d8d861e30d2b4c3616b43dce76ef)

That's what I expect it to look like anyways,

even alien resurection respected the rudimentary tecnology,  :-\ i don´t like the holograms in a alien prequel, it feels like a sequel  ::)

Your loss man.

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Quote from: Ivymike on Aug 06, 2011, 09:07:41 PM
Oh God...
What gives you so sure that will be holographic screens in Prometheus? ::)

If I recall it's due to a crewmember's facebook update talking about working on hologram table displays or something.

or something. Said from memory working on the ships control panels. No mention of holograms from what i can remember

Quote from: Darkoo on Aug 06, 2011, 09:40:17 PM
http://i54.tinypic.com/34pf2ja.jpg
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=38334.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=38334.0)

There.

Quote from: AnthonyWC70788 on Aug 03, 2011, 10:32:59 PM

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Quote from: JaaayDee on Aug 03, 2011, 09:18:05 PM
They've already implemented some of Alien in there.  The room where fassbender is walking in looks pretty old school.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/AndyUK_1962/Prometheus/162b028d8fbacc707c6a_2.jpg

And keep in mind that the Prometheus ship is a different working-class ship than the Nostromo.  I wouldn't even call it a working-class ship.  It's a ship made for scientists and explorers so it would be at the VERY top of the line.

when we are talking interiors and different gadgets yes.but cryopods?i think those are pretty standard if you do faster then light.they can't have newer tehnology cryopods 30 years before the first film.

and also remember aliens?it is set 70 years after the first movie .it has a military vessel,wich theoretically should use the latest in tehnology and be very fast.it still didn't have jelly in the pods.i still say that in those screens there is only light.

people only make the asumption it is goo because we saw the goo in the eggs and started fantasizing about it.it's stupid.also the pics we have are low quality.the contrast in them is bad.the colours are off.when we'll se the actual detailed footage are doubts will be resolved

I see what you are saying. But why would the goo be newer tech? If anything I think that the goo would be a step backward. Why have to clean goo off when you can just get out and be alright you know. Are they really going that much faster then the other movies, I would think it is about the same especially since this movie is basically a prequel. Plus in Alien and Aliens when they get out of the tubes they are groggy yes, but not like we think that one picture shows where it looks as if they have just awoken and one of them is falling down to their knees you know.

So yes I would think the goo is a step backwards in tech.

But I can also see where you think it is just lighting. Remember this movie is being filmed in 3D so this could be something they did to enhance the look you know... Anthony

I don't think Ridley Scott see's beyond his Alien film. So anything that's been seen post Alien 1 mean's nothing in terms of Tech or Alien hybrid.

I'm hoping that the bio-mech head pilot thingy is reminiscent in style to something like the below:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giger.cz%2Fimages%2Fimage_Hyperspace_II.jpg&hash=2f53eca0648e5fcdc8f751fb15d8df78796a661a)

or

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giger.cz%2Fimages%2Fimage_Necronomicon_III.jpg&hash=779de442a63725f4149c50722be71e3f0a4d2e11)

This might be a stupid question here.... (im out of the loop) lol,

But i assume the jockey is still a bag of bones/fossil when the crew explore the  derelict? seeing as this movie is around 35 years before A.L.I.E.N ?

The only time the jockey is seen alive is that (Million years scene yea?)

And we see more of this ship new places/sections right? Those screenshots look awesome.

The crew wont be going to the Derelict on LV-426, it'll be another Jockey ship, with at least one living Jockey in hypersleep, or they do go to the Derelict and find the Engineer(s) in another part of the ship. I'm sticking with the former explanation.

As an aside, apart from the tusks, I'd say the Giant Head will look more like the second picture from the above post.

Quote from: harlock on Aug 09, 2011, 05:32:49 PM
The crew wont be going to the Derelict on LV-426, it'll be another Jockey ship, with at least one living Jockey in hypersleep, or they do go to the Derelict and find the Engineer(s) in another part of the ship. I'm sticking with the former explanation.

As an aside, apart from the tusks, I'd say the Giant Head will look more like the second picture from the above post.

Me too. Hopefully HR Giger is having more input than we've been lead to believe...

Question for you guys...is this still being planned (and filmed) as two separate films, or has that changed and we are now talking about one, stand-alone film.

i have another question, this film will discard the alien queen seen in aliens?  :-\

Quote from: deuterium on Aug 09, 2011, 11:02:03 PM
Question for you guys...is this still being planned (and filmed) as two separate films, or has that changed and we are now talking about one, stand-alone film.

There is an article that says Ridley is "buttering up" Lindelof to help him again with a 2nd one.  So you can presume from this article that at least Ridley wants to do a sequel to Prometheus.

http://collider.com/prometheus-comic-con/104058/ (http://collider.com/prometheus-comic-con/104058/)

The article is probably referencing what Ridley said in the satelitte feed video in SDCC. I didn't watch the actual feed.

Quote from: Stans on Aug 10, 2011, 12:26:26 AM
i have another question, this film will discard the alien queen seen in aliens?  :-\

That is not yet known.

thanks for answer, a lot of my friens are saying that if prometheus discard the alien queen life cycle they will not go to see it and they will ignore it.

Quote from: Stans on Aug 10, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
thanks for answer, a lot of my friens are saying that if prometheus discard the alien queen life cycle they will not go to see it and they will ignore it.

yeah, a lot of people are divided on the issue, contrary to what some posters say otherwise.

I hope at least that nothing in Prometheus will contradict the existence of queens. But for me, not a deal breaker. Just glad that another real Alien movie will come about, because for me the last truly great movie in the franchise was created 25 years ago.

really? people are gonna protest this if it contradicts the alien queen? that's beyond retarded. if you're gonna be that anally technical about semantics like that, the queen was contradicted in the first movie with the deleted cocoon scene.

who are you talking to?

the guy before me didn't use the exact words "contradict", but I never said anything about protesting.

Don't know who you're referencing

Quote from: Stans on Aug 10, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
thanks for answer, a lot of my friens are saying that if prometheus discard the alien queen life cycle they will not go to see it and they will ignore it.

Don't worry, whether or not this film is in any way related to the Alien franchise is still relatively up for debate.  I imagine this debate will still exist even after the film is released.

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Quote from: Stans on Aug 10, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
thanks for answer, a lot of my friens are saying that if prometheus discard the alien queen life cycle they will not go to see it and they will ignore it.

Don't worry, whether or not this film is in any way related to the Alien franchise is still relatively up for debate.  I imagine this debate will still exist even after the film is released.

Yeah probably this. This will be Ridley's first movie that goes back to the same universe (purportedly) as his older movies. I don't think he cares about continuity. While you guys debate, he'll probably be working on his next romance or heist movie

Quote from: prometheUSA on Aug 10, 2011, 01:40:46 AM
who are you talking to?

the guy before me didn't use the exact words "contradict", but I never said anything about protesting.

Don't know who you're referencing

"thanks for answer, a lot of my friens are saying that if prometheus discard the alien queen life cycle they will not go to see it and they will ignore it."

Quote from: m138jewski on Aug 10, 2011, 03:03:37 AM

Quote from: prometheUSA on Aug 10, 2011, 01:40:46 AM
who are you talking to?

the guy before me didn't use the exact words "contradict", but I never said anything about protesting.

Don't know who you're referencing

"thanks for answer, a lot of my friens are saying that if prometheus discard the alien queen life cycle they will not go to see it and they will ignore it."

And that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Quote from: maddriver on Aug 10, 2011, 03:15:36 AM
And that doesn't make a lot of sense.

yes it does makes sense.

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Quote from: maddriver on Aug 10, 2011, 03:15:36 AM
And that doesn't make a lot of sense.

yes it does makes sense.

it makes sense but is it really worth missing out on what will likely be the best alien movie since the original?

It makes sense for them, but it's the dumbest thing I've read in a while. They should see Prometheus because it has the capability to be one of the best science fiction films in decades, not because they're angry that they're not getting what they want. If Ridley Scott pandered to fanboys wishes I wouldn't respect him as an artist, nor would i be interested in his art.

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Aug 10, 2011, 04:34:07 AM
It makes sense for them, but it's the dumbest thing I've read in a while. They should see Prometheus because it has the capability to be one of the best science fiction films in decades, not because they're angry that they're not getting what they want. If Ridley Scott pandered to fanboys wishes I wouldn't respect him as an artist, nor would i be interested in his art.

agree 100%

If Prometheus was to throw the alien sequels and spin offs out of canon then I will too. The only sequel that I can watch over and over again is the extended alien 3.

The other 2 seem like dumb action movies, good dumb action movies, but still dumb action movies.

Quote from: m138jewski on Aug 10, 2011, 01:36:03 AM
really? people are gonna protest this if it contradicts the alien queen? that's beyond retarded. if you're gonna be that anally technical about semantics like that, the queen was contradicted in the first movie with the deleted cocoon scene.

clarifying i like the ridley´s work, i love the first alien is my favorite of all the saga, i love the gigerezque alien, so erotic, so biomechanical, perverse and terrifying, i love the cocooned scene of bret and dallas is very misterious and dark, actualy i dont like all the cameron´s vision about the alien lifecycle compared with ants, my friends love the queen alien and we are speculating about if the queen posibly will be discarded of the saga canon, they dont want to see prometheus if discard the alien queen .

i realy don´t care if the queen is discarded, i prefer the terror and suspense of alien than the action of aliens.

If I hear people complain about Fu€king canon one more time...I swear...

Who gives a shit. Let the film be what it is as opposed to preparing opposition if it doesn't fit in your box of expectations.

I just hope Ridley has fun making a film that I will love to watch over and over.

Can we really ask for, or expect anything more?

I have no doubt in my mind this will be amazing, regardless of what the content covers.

Quote from: josh_axey on Aug 11, 2011, 04:24:46 AM
I just hope Ridley has fun making a film that I will love to watch over and over.

he said its the most fun he's had on a picture in years. this adds to the sizable list of things to be excited about. it all seems to damn good to be true

no matter what happens i really going to see prometheus, im pretty sure that ridley can bring the essense of alien, how it should be

Quote from: Stans on Aug 11, 2011, 05:00:42 AM
no matter what happens i really going to see prometheus, im pretty sure that ridley can bring the essense of alien, how it should be

My take on is that Ridley will bring his inherent style and influence and thus Prometheus will have very a similar look and feel as the original Alien. There's no point in changing artistic styles, especially when there's so much money, time, etc... on the line.

Now, what I'm really interested in is what Lindelof and Dariusz Wolski will bring to the table. Maybe even what Ridley's brother Tony will bring because Tony is a producer on here too. Too many good names to mention. There will be a lot more proven talent around Ridley this time.  And I'm just very excited from this fact alone especially since I'm a huge movie buff

On canon:
It's entertainment. As long as some kind of logical explanation is presented that makes getting from A to B plausible...then you should just go with it.

It's entirely possible that the original creatures were asexual. What we see in Alien is IMPLIED to be something that was borne of the space jockey. The egg that impregnated Kane, we assume, came from Space Jockey/Alien DNA.

But obviously, in Alien, we never saw a full life cycle of the creature...one born from a human...to know what would have happened to it.

It's completely logical to assume that what happened in Aliens was the result of human hosts. Something we would have seen in Alien, had the creature survived longer.

It's also completely logical to assume what happened in Aliens could be explained by something that happened elsewhere on LV-426, independent of the human hosts...and we were never shown it or had it explained (uh...Prometheus anyone?).

And it could be parts of both...hmmmm.....

Either way, saying you will IGNORE a movie if it doesn't acknowledge the Queen's life cycle is obviously a personal choice. But it's one you should think about...because making a statement like that...to me at least...means you have taken something too far.

What if Prometheus never mentions a Queen in the life cycle...but there is a second prequel that does? You won't know until then, will you?

I am a huge Star Trek fan from back in the days of TOS. But I enjoyed the reboot and accepted the premise. Even if it had been less logical, I would have still accepted it and tried to enjoy it. Why deprive yourself of that?


On the relationship to Alien:
I saw somebody post about not knowing if this movie is related to Alien.

I'm sorry...unless time and money has been spent to purposefully mislead us (we know some probably has), it would be almost impossible for this not to be an Alien prequel...part I.

I mean seriously...space jockey...the design of the set (Giger design everywhere)...the things people have seen on the set. If anything, they have tried to lead us away from that because Ridley doesn't want someone to be disappointed if a chest hasn't burst by minute 20 of the film.

On Scott, the actors, the film in general:
I can't imagine who better to try and preserve the legacy of the original film...one that obviously was a big deal for Ridley...than the man himself.

I don't know how any movie like this could meet EVERYONES expectations...but I am excited to see it because so many of the people you would want involved in this movie ARE working on it.

What more could you ask for?

Quote from: icedog97 on Aug 12, 2011, 02:06:45 PM
On canon:
It's entertainment. As long as some kind of logical explanation is presented that makes getting from A to B plausible...then you should just go with it.

It's entirely possible that the original creatures were asexual. What we see in Alien is IMPLIED to be something that was borne of the space jockey. The egg that impregnated Kane, we assume, came from Space Jockey/Alien DNA.

But obviously, in Alien, we never saw a full life cycle of the creature...one born from a human...to know what would have happened to it.

It's completely logical to assume that what happened in Aliens was the result of human hosts. Something we would have seen in Alien, had the creature survived longer.

It's also completely logical to assume what happened in Aliens could be explained by something that happened elsewhere on LV-426, independent of the human hosts...and we were never shown it or had it explained (uh...Prometheus anyone?).

And it could be parts of both...hmmmm.....

Either way, saying you will IGNORE a movie if it doesn't acknowledge the Queen's life cycle is obviously a personal choice. But it's one you should think about...because making a statement like that...to me at least...means you have taken something too far.

What if Prometheus never mentions a Queen in the life cycle...but there is a second prequel that does? You won't know until then, will you?

I am a huge Star Trek fan from back in the days of TOS. But I enjoyed the reboot and accepted the premise. Even if it had been less logical, I would have still accepted it and tried to enjoy it. Why deprive yourself of that?


On the relationship to Alien:
I saw somebody post about not knowing if this movie is related to Alien.

I'm sorry...unless time and money has been spent to purposefully mislead us (we know some probably has), it would be almost impossible for this not to be an Alien prequel...part I.

I mean seriously...space jockey...the design of the set (Giger design everywhere)...the things people have seen on the set. If anything, they have tried to lead us away from that because Ridley doesn't want someone to be disappointed if a chest hasn't burst by minute 20 of the film.

On Scott, the actors, the film in general:
I can't imagine who better to try and preserve the legacy of the original film...one that obviously was a big deal for Ridley...than the man himself.

I don't know how any movie like this could meet EVERYONES expectations...but I am excited to see it because so many of the people you would want involved in this movie ARE working on it.

What more could you ask for?

Here here. I think you've sumarised a lot of my feelings about this.

"If anything, they have tried to lead us away from that because Ridley doesn't want someone to be disappointed if a chest hasn't burst by minute 20 of the film."

I think this kind of thing is the main reason for the name change and the "is a prequel/isn't a prequel" official vagueness.
At this point the Alien saga comes with too much presumptions and expectations that they have to play against the past in order to do something genuinely new and not just "oh yeah, change the monster a bit, that'll do fine".

With comments like "I won't see it unless there's a queen" I realize some people have a limited ability to understand fully the laws of nature when it applies to science fiction. Parthenogenesis is the process by which a female of the species becomes pregnant without contact with a male. It would then make plausible sense for the aliens to have alternate forms of reproduction as well. The possibilities are endless. Again, making a stand that you won't see the film because in your mind, things should only happen one way it quite ridiculous.

In terms of the queen....ultimately she was a device, and as eloquent as she was in terms of the design, she furthered the 'bug slash hive' mentality as promoted by Cambo in Aliens. Instead of a continuation of the quiet terror of ALIEN, he turned everything into a device including the creatures themselves, ergo dumbing the entire saga down. No queen needed.

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Aug 12, 2011, 04:01:33 PM
With comments like "I won't see it unless there's a queen" I realize some people have a limited ability to understand fully the laws of nature when it applies to science fiction. Parthenogenesis is the process by which a female of the species becomes pregnant without contact with a male. It would then make plausible sense for the aliens to have alternate forms of reproduction as well. The possibilities are endless. Again, making a stand that you won't see the film because in your mind, things should only happen one way it quite ridiculous.

In terms of the queen....ultimately she was a device, and as eloquent as she was in terms of the design, she furthered the 'bug slash hive' mentality as promoted by Cambo in Aliens. Instead of a continuation of the quiet terror of ALIEN, he turned everything into a device including the creatures themselves, ergo dumbing the entire saga down. No queen needed.

I definitely understand your point of view...and to an extent, I agree with it.

But in terms of film making and the time (1986) that the film was made, Cameron made a lot of really insightful and smart decisions.

While I would like to have seen a more Alien-like sequel, I remember walking out of the theater after Aliens thinking "that was a great sequel". And obviously, the queen was a huge part of why that was so.

The really tough part about this franchise is that Alien 3 COULD have been fantastic. The extended edit is better than the theater version...and the somber ending is even acceptable finally...20 years later...but what killed my movie going experience, even in the extended edit, are some of the terrible effects shots.

As much as I want to believe it, the dog alien running along the ceiling is just not believable...and that's all I can think of when I see those scenes...

At least we don't have to worry about anything like that happening with Prometheus.

Again, I think Ridley really wants to make a science fiction movie (first) that's worthy of it's predecessor...(well, actually it's successor...but that's another issue entirely)...and if that's how it turns out, I think I'll be very happy with the result...

Really, why is anyone bothered about canon with the   A  L  I  E  N   sequels? Cameron didn't give an arse about continuity in 1986; why should Ridley worry about other people's bad decisions? He can make anything he likes and it'll still be better than anything that followed   A  L  I  E  N.

We don't need to get riled by the queen remarks.  People are going to watch this movie even if they say they won't.  They're just trying to express support for Aliens which has seen a growing trend of unfair criticism in these threads lately.

Quote from: Gash on Aug 12, 2011, 07:07:00 PM
Really, why is anyone bothered about canon with the   A  L  I  E  N   sequels? Cameron didn't give an arse about continuity in 1986; why should Ridley worry about other people's bad decisions? He can make anything he likes and it'll still be better than anything that followed   A  L  I  E  N.

This, this, this!

Quote from: kelgaard on Aug 12, 2011, 07:14:11 PM
We don't need to get riled by the queen remarks.  People are going to watch this movie even if they say they won't.  They're just trying to express support for Aliens which has seen a growing trend of unfair criticism in these threads lately.

Actually, I agree with you and with the queen haters. Im in the hater camp tbh, but even I think the debate is tired.

And apparently the footage was leaked onto youtube but was taken down promptly. (http://www.alienprequelnews.com/2011/08/is-patrick-wilson-in-prometheus.html?showComment=1313511209993#c4951762931331577885)

At least that means it's out there somewhere.  It's bound to surface again.

Quote from: Gash on Aug 12, 2011, 07:07:00 PM
Really, why is anyone bothered about canon with the   A  L  I  E  N   sequels? Cameron didn't give an arse about continuity in 1986; why should Ridley worry about other people's bad decisions? He can make anything he likes and it'll still be better than anything that followed   A  L  I  E  N.

Actually, when you think about it, continuity doesn't even come into the equation when dealing with prequels. Any director with half a brain would logically avoid everything done already so they could say "Well, this is how it could have happened, but it didn't...so what!". Assuming Prometheus is a prequel, I'm willing to bet anything Scott put's into his film, when/if ALIEN 5 actually happens, someone will come along and try and make sense of it again, that's just the nature of things... unlike sequels where you can be inventive, but still follow what's already in place.

Just a question - but can someone quote someone who actually said that they would not see Prometheus if a Queen was in it? I think I'm the one who instigated the Queen-hating, but I never said I wouldnt see it if it's in there, so who did?  ???

Someone said some of their friends had told them they would not go and see it.

Quote from: Stans on Aug 10, 2011, 01:00:12 AM
thanks for answer, a lot of my friens are saying that if prometheus discard the alien queen life cycle they will not go to see it and they will ignore it.

Hey everyone! I've been reading this Prometheus forum for a few weeks now and just decided to register.

My question is: has anyone here actually seen the video version of this? I'm not going to lie, I've been scouring bittorrent and soulseek but i haven't found a damn thing yet. I know its out there somewhere.  I dont have the patience to wait for the next official release.

Thanks!

Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Aug 24, 2011, 02:32:33 AM
Hey everyone! I've been reading this Prometheus forum for a few weeks now and just decided to register.

My question is: has anyone here actually seen the video version of this? I'm not going to lie, I've been scouring bittorrent and soulseek but i haven't found a damn thing yet. I know its out there somewhere.  I dont have the patience to wait for the next official release.

Thanks!

I've been hunting it like it was the last animal on earth a starving man could eat.
Zip.

Also, given no one can confirm they actually saw the video - only that there was a video with a name that appears to be what we're after... I'm starting to doubt it is out there.

/sadface

Ha! I knew I couldn't be the only one. But what's the deal? I don't believe for a second that no one recorded it.

Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Aug 24, 2011, 04:17:29 PM
Ha! I knew I couldn't be the only one. But what's the deal? I don't believe for a second that no one recorded it.

I assume (uh oh) someone managed to swipe some footage with their phone (those stills had *some* kind of bar up the side of them, lending to the theory)... and now they are far too afraid to share it for fear of Fox binding them to a rock and letting birds peck their liver over and over.

Alternatively, that bar was just a scroll wheel type deal and they were flicking through photos or some such and there is no footage (LIES!).

Either way... someone needs to get it and leak it! 8)

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Either way... someone needs to get it and leak it!

Yeah, let's send a team (callsign "Prometheus") in to steal the fire...uhm urns...the eggs...argh, no steal the secret Big Mac recipe...nah, the teraform tech...just the footage - STEAL THE DAMN STUFF!

Quote from: Never say no to Panda! on Aug 24, 2011, 10:52:29 PM

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Either way... someone needs to get it and leak it!

Yeah, let's send a team (callsign "Prometheus") in to steal the fire...uhm urns...the eggs...argh, no steal the secret Big Mac recipe...nah, the teraform tech...just the footage - STEAL THE DAMN STUFF!

Count me in.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gifsoup.com%2Fwebroot%2Fanimatedgifs5%2F2576550_o.gif&hash=df36189b4224005c56b7c81b5dce6cea0d5f7a77)

In one shot you can see the space Jockey's hand on his telescope and it has lights,don't know if its allowed, ??? but its  to cool take a look at it before you take it down if you do. http://youtu.be/e0V-6b45DZ8 (http://youtu.be/e0V-6b45DZ8)

Quote from: APC DRIVER on Sep 29, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
In one shot you can see the space Jockey's hand on his telescope and it has lights,don't know if its allowed, ??? but its  to cool take a look at it before you take it down if you do. http://youtu.be/e0V-6b45DZ8 (http://youtu.be/e0V-6b45DZ8)

I'm PRETTY sure that's a human-hand inside a spacesuit glove, and NOT the Space Jockey.

not the hand..duh....what it's in front of.

You SO sure that's the ''telescope''?

I didn't call it a telescope. Who knows what it is?

I also didn't call it a telescope, I called it a ''telescope''...and I'm assuming you're referring to what the SJ is sitting beneath, and I'm wondering how you know it to be what that hand is in front of...

Apart from the angle and vague similar ribbing...

can anybody send me the pics?

Great pics and they really got me pumped up about the movie, but too bad none of them revealed anything about the creature or the live Jockey

Quote from: 4ridley on Sep 29, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
can anybody send me the pics?

There must be a thread somewhere...

Quote from: JaaayDee on Sep 30, 2011, 03:04:31 AM

Quote from: 4ridley on Sep 29, 2011, 09:58:16 PM
can anybody send me the pics?

There must be a thread somewhere...

"news" section of the homepage.

Edit: My bad, didn't realise they were removed.

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 29, 2011, 08:02:57 PM
I didn't call it a telescope. Who knows what it is?

Something that opens wormholes or timeholes somekind of course plotter.

Quote from: Infected on Sep 30, 2011, 12:22:22 PM

Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Sep 29, 2011, 08:02:57 PM
I didn't call it a telescope. Who knows what it is?

Something that opens wormholes or timeholes somekind of course plotter.

I've often liked to imagine it was to scan the future so that he could see where the best places to leave eggs there for thousands of years. There might be other things.

Man the set peices are huge! just google Prometheus set images.

Quote from: Glaive on Sep 29, 2011, 06:29:17 PM

Quote from: APC DRIVER on Sep 29, 2011, 05:28:59 PM
In one shot you can see the space Jockey's hand on his telescope and it has lights,don't know if its allowed, ??? but its  to cool take a look at it before you take it down if you do. http://youtu.be/e0V-6b45DZ8 (http://youtu.be/e0V-6b45DZ8)

I'm PRETTY sure that's a human-hand inside a spacesuit glove, and NOT the Space Jockey.

Yeah its a hand in a glove all right, was confimed by FOX a few months ago, more or less stating no one had seen anything of the Space Jockey yet...pretty much says it all.

What are you talking about confirmed by FOX more or less? Fox have confirmed nothing relating to the Space Jockey or anything. All they've done is asked for pictures to be taken down etc.

If the Jockey is a humanoid in the large suit then it could be a hand in a glove.
I hope the Jockey is the jockey though and there is not exo-skeleton malarkey or English being spoken.

Quote from: tmjhur on Oct 26, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
I hope the Jockey is the jockey though and there is not exo-skeleton malarkey or English being spoken.

Based upon Ridley Scott's old comments, I'm willing to bet that the remains onboard the derelict is in fact an exo-skeleton.  At first I disliked this concept strongly but I've since not only accepted it and now embrace it.

I think the initial problem was that we've all formed our own views and ideas of what the Space Jockey race looked like over the years.  If you go into Prometheus with that attitude then you're almost sure to be disappointed.  I think it's best to wipe away all expectations and let Ridley and co take us on a ride.

Quote from: St_Eddie on Oct 26, 2011, 07:31:23 PM

Quote from: tmjhur on Oct 26, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
I hope the Jockey is the jockey though and there is not exo-skeleton malarkey or English being spoken.

Based upon Ridley Scott's old comments, I'm willing to bet that the remains onboard the derelict is in fact an exo-skeleton.  At first I disliked this concept strongly but I've since not only accepted it and now embrace it.

As much as I respect your view, if we're introduced to a 'space-jockey' and there's suddenly a comedic zipper-sound or velcro-rip, and a 'seeming' human steps out of this bio-mechanical suit...well, I think the ONLY word I can muster is I would be 'PISSED!!!'
I'll hold fast on the 'ranting-and-railing' as it hasn't happened, yet...and if it does Ridley (if anyone) could make it work...

I, for one, don't believe the Space Jockey is just some comedy suit...this isn't 'Big Momma's House' or some Eddie Murphey vehicle.

Quote from: Glaive on Oct 26, 2011, 08:18:07 PM
As much as I respect your view, if we're introduced to a 'space-jockey' and there's suddenly a comedic zipper-sound or velcro-rip, and a 'seeming' human steps out of this bio-mechanical suit...well, I think the ONLY word I can muster is I would be 'PISSED!!!'
I'll hold fast on the 'ranting-and-railing' as it hasn't happened, yet...and if it does Ridley (if anyone) could make it work...

I, for one, don't believe the Space Jockey is just some comedy suit...this isn't 'Big Momma's House' or some Eddie Murphey vehicle.

Velco-rip? Big Momma's House? Eddie Murphy?! I like the way that you've purposefully tried to swing the bias meter towards making the concept of an exo-skeleton as ludicrous as possible. :laugh:

As for a humanoid emerging from within = Unimaginative and boarderline silly. 

However, a Giger designed humanoid emerging from within = Potentially ten kinds of awesome.  ;D

I was thinking the giant head might actually look something like that. That it might have an ALIEN biomechanoid look about it. And if that is the look of the SJ beneath the exoskeleton, then I'm down with that.

Quote from: tmjhur on Oct 26, 2011, 09:31:47 PM
I was thinking the giant head might actually look something like that. That it might have an ALIEN biomechanoid look about it. And if that is the look of the SJ beneath the exoskeleton, then I'm down with that.

In one of the leaked Comic-Con stills with the giant head (the one with a torch shining on it), you can see details very similar to the above Giger painting (minus the horns and the addition of a nose).  If someone can find the still, then compare the exposed teeth and the large round eyes.  It looks very similar.

I'm thinking that the above painting is the basis for what the Space Jockey will look like in Prometheus.

That exactly it.
A humanoid creature but with Giger's biomechanical features.
This painting of the head must not be far from the Engineer's actual design.
From the screenshot you can see that it has more human's features, nose, ears.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi30.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc323%2FBlestBadge%2Fprometheus%2520comic%2520con%2520footage%2520screenshots%2Fapro19.jpg&hash=55f16c979b89ef88f34d0de2d9a89db3c67c5232)

Quote from: Engineer1 on Oct 26, 2011, 11:38:43 PM
That exactly it.
A humanoid creature but with Giger's biomechanical features.
This painting of the head must not be far from the Engineer's actual design.
From the screenshot you can see that it has more human's features, nose, ears.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c323/BlestBadge/prometheus%20comic%20con%20footage%20screenshots/apro19.jpg

Ah, that's the shot I was referring to.  Thanks for posting it.

It really does look as though it has the same large, round bug eyes as Giger's painting and it definitely has the same same toothy mouth.  I prefered the noseless design of the painting though.

Quote from: tmjhur on Oct 26, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
What are you talking about confirmed by FOX more or less? Fox have confirmed nothing relating to the Space Jockey or anything. All they've done is asked for pictures to be taken down etc.

If you say so ....lol