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Title: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Engineer on Aug 24, 2019, 02:57:39 PM
It's coming out May of 2020.
A friend of mine on Facebook found it online; it's not on Dark Horse's website yet though.
Aliens vs. Predator: The Original Comics Series (30th Anniversary Edition) https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506715680/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_IavyDb6CWVFW1
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 24, 2019, 04:06:08 PM
Not a choice I would have expected for the cover but it's about damn time!!!

And foolishly wishing it's a recolouring.  :laugh:
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Engineer on Aug 24, 2019, 04:09:06 PM
Yea, I may have to get this... I'm a sucker for a hard cover, plus the larger format is nice! Not my favorite cover choice or color either. The yellow is going to clash with the black, blue and red from before. Lol purple would have been cool imo.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Aug 24, 2019, 09:19:17 PM
I knew it was Coming  :D. I personally hope it's only the first series.  The page count seems to suggest it and some extras.

I hate the yellow and would have chosen a different cover pic.

Brown background with the Dorman painting of the Pred fighting the Xeno's in the swamp, my profile pic lol.  That would be my choice.

Correct me if I am wrong but that cover pic is the cover to the Dark Horse Presents issue that first features AVP ? Only recoloured.

Also would have preferred  'Versus' in the title, as per the original comics, instead of the modern 'Vs'.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Engineer on Aug 24, 2019, 10:13:43 PM
I'm just happy they didn't use the movie's style of "AVP" logo
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 24, 2019, 11:45:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 24, 2019, 04:06:08 PM
Not a choice I would have expected for the cover but it's about damn time!!!

And foolishly wishing it's a recolouring.  :laugh:

Lord I wish they would finally re-color this series. But I bet this will have the original coloring instead.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Aug 25, 2019, 05:19:35 PM
Quote from: Engineer on Aug 24, 2019, 10:13:43 PM
I'm just happy they didn't use the movie's style of "AVP" logo

Amen to that brother.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: SpaceKase on Aug 29, 2019, 03:27:48 PM
It looks like they're trying to keep in stylistic synergy with the red cover they did for the Predator Anniversary release, where we tantalizingly only got that single Wes Dzioba re-color from the 'Life is Beautiful' cover shot of the original Concrete Jungle. I mean, it's gorgeous but it always cracks me up, like a Collective Soul video or something.

I daren't hope for the full Dzioba treatment on the AvP book, but I can at least dream. There's indelible charm to the 90's water coloring from of the original single issues though. It really emphasized the beauty shots of scenes like the Ryushi sun's-set, or the landing of the Cargo Hauler ship, that and all the rad Ron Cobb design work really fleshed out this colony world in a way that few other stories have. The subsequent colorings were a bit painful, so I'm waiting with bated breath to see what we get here. Until then, my androids will have to just keep dreaming of electric Dziobas. *sigh* Until the day, brothers and sisters.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: The Old One on Aug 29, 2019, 10:25:29 PM
Finally, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 30, 2019, 07:30:15 AM
If not a new colouring, I kinda hope it's the original colouring from the singles. I much prefer those over the Dark Horse Digital recolouring from the trades.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Aug 30, 2019, 07:00:03 PM
I think it will be the original colouring from the singles.

So far all the other releases in this format have been the original material. Aliens book One was back to black and white and used the original names for the characters.

Book two even omitted the bonus page of art from the later trade printings.

I also hope it is the original art as well. As much I i like the consistency with the trade release, the original colours were much better.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Katanu on Oct 28, 2019, 03:49:04 AM
So, this should collect the original AvP and War?
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: SM on Oct 28, 2019, 04:03:21 AM
Judging from the cover and the blurb - no.  Just looks like the original series.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2019, 07:02:29 AM
Given the page count, I'd also just expect the first series. But the new Essential Comics collects AvP, War and 3WW.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: The Old One on Oct 28, 2019, 12:07:51 PM
I'd prefer just the first series, anything after that with Machiko Noguchi is nonsense anyway.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Katanu on Oct 28, 2019, 01:39:11 PM
I was wondering that because Amazon has some page previews, and one of them is from War, guess it's a mistake then.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 28, 2019, 01:51:25 PM
It certainly could be the original and War. All the others have collected more pages worth than just a single 4 issue run.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Nostromo on Oct 29, 2019, 04:38:07 PM
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: The Old One on Oct 30, 2019, 01:22:16 PM
Huh? It's a long time coming.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Nov 22, 2019, 06:47:41 AM
Pulled forward to April, just before Alien Day.

QuoteAliens Vs Predator: 30th Anniversary—The Original Comics Series HC
Randy Stradley (W), Phill Norwood (A), and Chris Warner (A/Cover)
On sale Apr 22
FC, 192 pages
$44.99
HC, 8" x 12"

Throughout history, the screen's mightiest monsters have clashed: in the 1940s it was Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman, in the '60s it was King Kong vs. Godzilla, and in the '90s it was Aliens vs. Predator! Fourteen years before the Aliens and the Predators met on film, they collided in the pages of a comic book. Now, on the thirtieth anniversary of that battle, the original comics stories are collected in one massive volume!

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/11/20/bang-blackwood-bprd-dark-horse-comics-february-2020-solicits/
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: The Old One on Nov 22, 2019, 10:18:43 AM
Yes!!! I can't wait.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 22, 2019, 11:56:02 AM
I am really hoping that it's just the 4 core issues of the original AVP plus the three prologue pieces and epilogue piece from Dark Horse Presents.

Then a shed load of bonus behind the scenes material  :laugh:
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: The Old One on Nov 23, 2019, 12:14:27 PM
I'm with you on that one.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 26, 2019, 05:56:34 PM
I am still annoyed that they went with the 'VS' instead of the original 'Versus' in the title.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
Originally it was "vs."

(https://d2lzb5v10mb0lj.cloudfront.net/covers/300/a/avp1.jpg)

It was changed to "versus" for a reprint in the 90s. Then it went back to the short version.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 26, 2019, 09:19:44 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 26, 2019, 06:03:19 PM
Originally it was "vs."

https://d2lzb5v10mb0lj.cloudfront.net/covers/300/a/avp1.jpg

It was changed to "versus" for a reprint in the 90s. Then it went back to the short version.

I never knew that.  I'll shut the F up lol.

I even had the original issues years back.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: The Old One on Nov 27, 2019, 01:42:02 AM
I'd also love to see it in more serious tones.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Nov 27, 2019, 01:50:19 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 27, 2019, 01:42:02 AM
I'd also love to see it in more serious tones.

It would be a dream come true to get it recolored again.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Nov 27, 2019, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Nov 27, 2019, 01:42:02 AM
I'd also love to see it in more serious tones.

I'd also love a modern recolouring. Give me tones to match the palette of Aliens.

I doubt it's getting recoloured though as that would be in the solicit as a selling point. Could be wrong.

Given the choice of the two options for colouring we have, I hope we get the originals. And hope the DHP's prologues are black and white as they were.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: HuDaFuK on Nov 27, 2019, 09:54:38 AM
Quote from: Russ840 on Nov 26, 2019, 09:19:44 PMI never knew that.  I'll shut the F up lol.

:)

They've fiddled with the name of the comic franchise a few times. They started out using vs., then it went to versus, on a few series it was even simply Aliens/Predator, now we're back to vs. again. Practically everything has been standardised to Aliens vs. Predator since the digital re-releases, the only things still using weird permutations are the crossover comics that have never been collected anywhere.

Quote from: Russ840 on Nov 27, 2019, 08:36:14 AMI doubt it's getting recoloured though as that would be in the solicit as a selling point. Could be wrong.

Plus the whole point of these recent fancy hardcovers is that they're the original series, like how we got Outbreak in black and white with Hix n' Noot. Recolouring it wouldn't be original :)
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Kimarhi on Nov 27, 2019, 05:39:26 PM
At one time the best selling independent comic of all time.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Katanu on Jun 06, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
So, when is this one coming out? Amazon says June 16, Dark Horse July 1.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: SpaceKase on Jun 07, 2020, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Nov 27, 2019, 09:54:38 AM
[...]
They've fiddled with the name of the comic franchise a few times. They started out using vs., then it went to versus, on a few series it was even simply Aliens/Predator...
[...]

yeah, regarding that, I've been cooking up something kinda big on that particular front... stay tuned.
(but not too tuned, its going to be super esoteric and niche)
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Jun 07, 2020, 07:02:25 PM
Quote from: Katanu on Jun 06, 2020, 06:32:40 PM
So, when is this one coming out? Amazon says June 16, Dark Horse July 1.

I'd say go by the Dark Horse date.  They are the publisher and most likely to be accurate.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Jun 16, 2020, 09:08:01 PM
https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/Aliens_Vs_Predator_The_Original_Comics_S.html?id=robnDwAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

Preview for the collection.  Shame to see that its the trade recolour and no the originals colours and black & whites. 

Collects the expected, AVP 0-4 and the Dark Horse Presents Anniversary issues AvP content.

Also includes War Part 1

Gallery and layout are included and a forward by Phil Norwood.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Jun 17, 2020, 03:27:38 AM
Going to be a hard pass for me. I wanted a new recoloring but would have been alright with the original colors. But this? What a bummer.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: HuDaFuK on Jun 17, 2020, 07:56:54 AM
Surely if it's the "Original" series it should be the original colours? The anniversary reissue of Aliens: Book One was in the original black and white, after all.

Also seems bizarre that they'd include a bit of War and not all of it. I'm guessing it's the prologue that was originally published as AVP 2 and later collected as War #0?
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: SiL on Jun 17, 2020, 08:12:42 AM
I've only seen the collected version. What were the original colours like?
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jun 17, 2020, 09:41:04 AM
Monika Livingston did the original colours for the series. A far better effort than her work on Female War. I actually preferred her original colour work. And completely agree with everyone above. With it being titled Original, I would have expected the original like they did with the Alien series. Disappointed there.

I don't have the best scans of the original but...

(https://i.imgur.com/TeAt6Lt.jpg)
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: SiL on Jun 17, 2020, 10:14:54 AM
Oh, that is nice!
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Jun 17, 2020, 11:45:49 AM
Yeah. Im disappointed.

Considering that, for the second Aliens Vol, Dark Horse didn't include the extra page for Book 2 that was featured in the Nightmare Asylum release because it was not in the original comics, you would have thought they would have been consistent with the 'Original Comics Series' theme here.

Also, I'm concerned that we won't be getting the bonus content from the old paperback releases. That material should definitely been in here.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Katanu on Jun 28, 2020, 03:53:33 AM
Well, I'll buy it anyway cause I'm a sucker for hardcovers. And I really enjoy the original AvP comic.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Jul 04, 2020, 06:30:38 PM
So I got my copy of this and i must say that it is the most disappointing of the 'Original Comics Series' so far.

The build is great but the first problem I have is that the print is almost blurred. I compared it to my original paperback copy and the print is so much sharper in that edition. It's like the ink has bleed on the pages in the new Hardcover. 

Couple this with the fact that this edition uses the recolouring that the original trade was given, as opposed to the original colours from the single issues.  This is not the best way to view the series' artwork.

Next problem I have with this is that it is really light on extra material. We get a nice forward by Phil Norwood, which is great, and some original layouts in the back. This is all new to me. Cool. But all of the extra material from the original trade is not here. That content was awesome to have and would have been an easy addition to the collection. There was some great insight in the afterword of that collection.   We don't even get an afterword this time.

We don't get a very inclusive cover gallery either. Another disappointment.   

Being that this collection is suppose to be 30th anniversary celebration, it is quiet a poor effort. This is the first time I have actually been disappointed with Dark Horse when it come to their collections.  It feels like a cheap cash grab to me.

Shame.

Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 05, 2020, 01:10:25 AM
That sucks, I ordered it after I heard tbe news about DH.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Jul 05, 2020, 02:41:02 PM
Also excludes the map of Prosperity Wells and the opening description of the location. I.e population, function and what not.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 05, 2020, 04:41:21 PM
Yikes, I wonder why? Maybe they had run out of time to put it together with losing the license. Still ahould have just scrapped the book then put it out in this condition.

:'(
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Jul 05, 2020, 05:12:48 PM
Yeah. This is real poor.

Does anyone know if the very first paperbacks for this had the original colours ?
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 05, 2020, 05:19:14 PM
They do not... just the original issues have the original water colors :-[

I was hoping for a collected edition using the original colors, I actually like them. However my dream is for a re-coloring.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Jul 05, 2020, 05:44:04 PM
I may have to track down the original issues then.

You never know. Marvel may give us that recolouring.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 05, 2020, 05:55:05 PM
I have the original issues, the prequel DHP issues (#36 signed by Dorman) as well. I also have the orignal TPB, the 6 DHClassics reprint single issues, the AvP2010  HC recolor of the prequel, AvP Omnibus, the DHP 5th Annv prequel reprint, and now the 30th anniversary on the way now. :laugh:

Don't know why I have so many versions of one story :D
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Kailem on Jul 07, 2020, 07:28:23 AM
'Cause it's AVP! :laugh:
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: happypred on Jul 08, 2020, 07:00:33 AM
Original colours were really sloppy

Recolour was dull and dreary

Only good colouring was that of the AvP 2010 #0 special
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 02, 2020, 09:25:47 AM
Picked my copy up yesterday. Having read the foreword, looks like we have Phil Norwood to blame for the colouring. He convinced Stradley to get it redone.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 02, 2020, 10:47:18 AM
Yeah I thought that was funny, still I prefer the original colors by far. I'm surprised Stradley and Norwood prefer the recolor.

I feel bad for Monika Livingston, her coloring may not be imperfect but it has more charm and quality to it than the soulless recolor which has been printed ever since the original single issues (in the US anyway). Both the coloring's are a disservice to the art.. Dzioba did a great job though.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: SpaceKase on Aug 02, 2020, 12:45:55 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 02, 2020, 09:25:47 AM
Picked my copy up yesterday. Having read the foreword, looks like we have Phil Norwood to blame for the colouring. He convinced Stradley to get it redone.

Well that's disappointing as hell. It's time to start planting some sound massage and subliminals into Marvel's ear... dzioba...  dzioba...
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Rambo on Aug 02, 2020, 01:43:34 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 05, 2020, 05:19:14 PM
They do not... just the original issues have the original water colors :-[

I was hoping for a collected edition using the original colors, I actually like them. However my dream is for a re-coloring.
The original 1991 TPB does not have the original coloring? I always thought it did.

Also, not quite the same but, Aliens Magazine Vol 1 in the UK did an 11-part serialization with the original colors in 1991. And there was an original color 3-part release in Germany that same year. Some more printings for 426Buddy to collect...
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 02, 2020, 01:47:53 PM
Yeah Rambo I purchased the original TPB a few years back thinking the same but alas it was not the original.

I've limited myself to US publications only  :laugh: I don't have the resources for any more but I did make an exception with the Aliens UK Mag Vol 2 since they are a little easier to come by, but I still don't have the last issue.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: SpaceKase on Aug 02, 2020, 02:41:04 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Aug 02, 2020, 01:47:53 PM
Yeah Rambo I purchased the original TPB a few years back thinking the same but alas it was not the original.

I've limited myself to US publications only  :laugh: I don't have the resources for any more but I did make an exception with the Aliens UK Mag Vol 2 since they are a little easier to come by, but I still don't have the last issue.

We really need to start pooling our AvP Galaxy resources and collections and get some decent scan archives put together of the old Aliens Magazines, there is no way these are going to be collected officially and as more of us get older and time goes by these are simply going to be lost to the ages as their print paper crumbles. Lets face it, no one cares about these gems but us.

If not now, when? If not us, who?
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 02, 2020, 04:22:51 PM
Right, the paper quality is already poor for the UK mags, time is not kind to them.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Aug 29, 2020, 09:37:59 AM
So i was just giving this another look through.

This is a real piss poor effort, it really is.

I noted before that there was not a very inclusive cover section but damn. It does not even include all the series covers. The covers we get are

The Dorman wrap around for the trade
Issue 0 by Mignola
Issue 3
Issue 4
The trade cover to War is in the book as well.

That's it.  No issue 1 and 2. No Dark Horse Presents cover either.

Another exclusion i noticed is the pin up art pages from the original trade (the ones that decide the chapters) they aren't here either.

If page count was an issue, which i cant see that is would be, Dark Horse should have sacked off War and given us all the covers and previous behind the scenes content.

The worst offender here, though, is the printing.  God it is bad. Compared to the original trade it like comparing a CRT tv to a HD tv. How can my 25 year old book look better than this 'premium' book?

Am i the only one here this disappointed?
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2020, 11:45:03 AM
I was disappointed but I didn't find the print quality to be that bad, it seemed the about same as Aliens Book II/earthwar special edition.

The only one that got any real love was the original Aliens series 30th hardcover.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Russ840 on Aug 29, 2020, 11:48:56 AM
I'll post some comparison shots of the art.

You are right, Buddy.  The first Aliens Vol is by far the best volume and prob the best way to experience the comic.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: 426Buddy on Aug 29, 2020, 11:57:56 AM
It's unfortunate really, its a wonderful format. The colors should pop and be vibrant and the art crisp and clear but they're not really.  Missed opportunity imo.
Title: Re: AVP the Original Comic Series 30th Anniversary
Post by: Tichinde on Aug 29, 2020, 09:56:23 PM
yeah the 2010 reprint had topknots original armor colored in as Red too, small detail but one I miss.