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Posted by Xenomrph
 - May 30, 2020, 01:08:03 AM
That's not what Gaska said, he was awfully clear on it. The audience is deciding what's canon, and those stories are part of it if they want them to be. Even SM recognized that, even if he made the claim that the stories "hadn't happened yet" (which is contingent on when one places them in the timeline).

Also Star Wars =/= Alien/Predator/AvP
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - May 30, 2020, 12:35:19 AM
Places/locations/ideas from old content showing up in the new canon doesn't make the old content canon... if merely makes those places/locations/ideas canon. When Thrawn appeared in Star Wars Rebels, that didn't make the old Timothy Zahn novels canon again. It just created a new, canon version of Thrawn. Darth Bane being in The Clone Wars didn't re-canonize old Darth Bane stories. Or the planet Malachor in Rebels. Or the mention of Life Day in The Mandalorian. And so on and so forth.

Same principle applies here. Maybe some locations from old Dark Horse comics are canon, since they're on the map, but that doesn't make the old stories that were set on those planets canon.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - May 29, 2020, 11:53:04 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 28, 2020, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2020, 08:52:16 PM
Also consider that nearly all that old EU stuff hasn't happened in the timeframe of the RPG yet.
That doesn't change Gaska's point or intent.
[...]

Truth.
Posted by Xenomrph
 - May 28, 2020, 09:06:02 PM
Quote from: SM on May 28, 2020, 08:52:16 PM
Also consider that nearly all that old EU stuff hasn't happened in the timeframe of the RPG yet.
That doesn't change Gaska's point or intent.

Also the bulk of the old EU is vague to the point that it can happen just about whenever you want in the timeline.
Posted by SM
 - May 28, 2020, 08:52:16 PM
Also consider that nearly all that old EU stuff hasn't happened in the timeframe of the RPG yet.
Posted by j0nesy
 - May 28, 2020, 03:59:00 PM
same, when it comes to the alien rpg i consider the locations, characters and general story premises as canon, and then whatever path playing the game actually takes, is in line with his "overheard in a bar" take
Posted by Still Collating...
 - May 28, 2020, 08:39:40 AM
Love that explanation.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - May 28, 2020, 07:55:47 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 27, 2020, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: SM on May 27, 2020, 09:40:54 PM
The RPG doesn't make old licensed material canon. The RPG just uses some of the old locations.
[...]
I'll ask him about it anyway.


Got an answer:
https://imgur.com/a/ZMFcQI3

Damn. That is classy AF.  Right on, man. I'm really looking forward to checking that out.
Posted by Local Trouble
 - May 27, 2020, 11:48:08 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 27, 2020, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: SM on May 27, 2020, 09:40:54 PM
The RPG doesn't make old licensed material canon. The RPG just uses some of the old locations.

Not exactly, the locations are canon (and in the case of Tanaka 5, the scorpions and by proxy Scorpion Aliens), but according to Andrew Gaska it's done that way so players can treat the old stories as "canon" if they want to. He talked about it on the podcast he participated in for Alien Day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5sSiYwEF-Y

I'll ask him about it anyway.


Got an answer:

https://imgur.com/a/ZMFcQI3

:o
Posted by Xenomrph
 - May 27, 2020, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: SM on May 27, 2020, 09:40:54 PM
The RPG doesn't make old licensed material canon. The RPG just uses some of the old locations.
Not exactly, the locations are canon (and in the case of Tanaka 5, the scorpions and by proxy Scorpion Aliens), but according to Andrew Gaska it's done that way so players can treat the old stories as "canon" if they want to. He talked about it on the podcast he participated in for Alien Day.



I'll ask him about it anyway.


Got an answer:

https://imgur.com/a/ZMFcQI3
Posted by SM
 - May 27, 2020, 09:40:54 PM
The RPG doesn't make old licensed material canon. The RPG just uses some of the old locations.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - May 27, 2020, 08:03:52 PM
Quote from: EJA on May 27, 2020, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 26, 2020, 04:14:25 PM
NEVER.

Hey the old DHPress and Bantam stuff (and f**kin' Kenner stuff) got rolled back into "the official canon" courtesy of the RPG, so if we're tracing Alien origins then there's a lot more work to be done. ;D

Eh? How can that be? There are too many contradictions.

Not contradictions so much as paradoxes.
Posted by Xenomrph
 - May 27, 2020, 02:48:36 PM
Quote from: EJA on May 27, 2020, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 26, 2020, 04:14:25 PM
NEVER.

Hey the old DHPress and Bantam stuff (and f**kin' Kenner stuff) got rolled back into "the official canon" courtesy of the RPG, so if we're tracing Alien origins then there's a lot more work to be done. ;D

Eh? How can that be? There are too many contradictions.
"Canon" and "continuity" are not synonyms. :)

But to use your words - it is canon, and we must roll with it. ;)
Posted by EJA
 - May 27, 2020, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on May 26, 2020, 04:14:25 PM
NEVER.

Hey the old DHPress and Bantam stuff (and f**kin' Kenner stuff) got rolled back into "the official canon" courtesy of the RPG, so if we're tracing Alien origins then there's a lot more work to be done. ;D

Eh? How can that be? There are too many contradictions.
Posted by SpaceKase
 - May 26, 2020, 06:46:31 PM
Quote from: Hudson on May 26, 2020, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: EJA on May 24, 2020, 09:01:43 AM
Quote from: SpaceKase on May 24, 2020, 02:50:48 AM
There's no reason to believe that the xeno varieties we know and love couldn't have or didn't exist before David played around with his tissue remixes on Planet 4

Actually, there is very good reason to believe they didn't exist before David. It's what Covenant said, and it's what Ridley Scott fully intends, and since it is canon, we must roll with it.

I believe what I want.

"It's what I.. Choose to believe..."
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