Aliens vs Avengers

Started by MudButt, Apr 18, 2024, 02:19:30 PM

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Mr.Turok

Mr.Turok

#255
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This kinds of implies that in the OG main Alien timeline that Engineer tech has the ability to jump from not only timelines, but universes as well.

Which also tickles the concept of The Predator's deleted endings of universe travelling a bit more into reality.
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Oasis Nadrama

Oasis Nadrama

#256
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 10, 2024, 01:49:46 AM
Quote from: SM on Nov 09, 2024, 09:08:14 PMThere's twenty years of a universe of comics and books that omit Black Goo, Engineers, Super Predators, Ferals, Upgrades  ;)

But they have praetorians and royal jelly.

And also the White Hybrids. Don't forget the White Hybrids. They are the worst thing to ever come out of the Extended Universe.





Quote from: RakaiThwei on Nov 09, 2024, 06:33:37 PM
Quote from: SM on Nov 07, 2024, 09:25:11 PMDoes it really matter if it's official?

I like the idea of alternate Alien-Predator universe that can co-exist alongside with the cinematic entries.

It still surprises me how many franchises, to this day, have trouble with the idea of multiple, parallel canons. It works pretty well for Marvel and DC since decades.

SM

SM

#257
Because anything goes in Marvel and DC like time travel and other dimensions or universes. Ditto Star Trek.

We're decades in to Alien and those things haven't ever been established.


RakaiThwei

RakaiThwei

#258
Quote from: Oasis Nadrama on Nov 10, 2024, 11:13:01 AMIt still surprises me how many franchises, to this day, have trouble with the idea of multiple, parallel canons. It works pretty well for Marvel and DC since decades.

Don't forget Godzilla, Halloween and Robocop.

I think having multiple canons would be a good thing.

Great thing, really.

Quote from: SM on Nov 10, 2024, 12:26:12 PMBecause anything goes in Marvel and DC like time travel and other dimensions or universes. Ditto Star Trek.

We're decades in to Alien and those things haven't ever been established.

Except that now, Alien-Predator is now in the hands of Marvel and both are owned by the same parent company. So these crossovers aren't just your typical inter-company publication that can be handwaved as they're in-house now.

And the idea of an Alien-Predator multiverse doesn't really have to be explicitly stated or narratively shown. There's plenty of franchises that do this, the earlier ones I mentioned do that and they don't deal with dimension hopping or time travel.

Would it be bad if we wound up with multiple canons?

Nightmare Asylum

Nightmare Asylum

#259
Alien has had multiple continuitues since 2012, when Prometheus released and was totally incompatible with AVP and AVPR.

Slutty Badger

Slutty Badger

#260
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Nov 10, 2024, 02:15:17 PMWould it be bad if we wound up with multiple canons?

We already have. Alien, Predator, and AVP are all separate universes. Can't remember where I read it, but three versions of Aliens occur in all three timelines according to Andrew Gaska.

SM

SM

#261
Wut?

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Nov 10, 2024, 02:15:17 PM
Quote from: Oasis Nadrama on Nov 10, 2024, 11:13:01 AMIt still surprises me how many franchises, to this day, have trouble with the idea of multiple, parallel canons. It works pretty well for Marvel and DC since decades.

Don't forget Godzilla, Halloween and Robocop.

I think having multiple canons would be a good thing.

Great thing, really.

Quote from: SM on Nov 10, 2024, 12:26:12 PMBecause anything goes in Marvel and DC like time travel and other dimensions or universes. Ditto Star Trek.

We're decades in to Alien and those things haven't ever been established.

Except that now, Alien-Predator is now in the hands of Marvel and both are owned by the same parent company. So these crossovers aren't just your typical inter-company publication that can be handwaved as they're in-house now.

And the idea of an Alien-Predator multiverse doesn't really have to be explicitly stated or narratively shown. There's plenty of franchises that do this, the earlier ones I mentioned do that and they don't deal with dimension hopping or time travel.

Would it be bad if we wound up with multiple canons?

I was talking more in terms of the source material than the spin off material which has multiple canons anyway.

Or one canon and many apocrypha if you want to look at it that way. And since some of that apocrypha is cool, no it would not be bad.

[cancerblack]

[cancerblack]

#262
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Nov 10, 2024, 06:55:38 PMaccording to Andrew Gaska.

To be fair, some of us don't give a f**k what Gaska thinks.

Nightmare Asylum

Nightmare Asylum

#263
It's so weird that (in my very limited second hand experience) this friggin crossover comic seems to be the most interesting thing Marvel has done with the license thus far.

SM

SM

#264
Utopia was cool, but as far as series go, it's easily the most interesting.


Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 10, 2024, 10:12:17 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Nov 10, 2024, 06:55:38 PMaccording to Andrew Gaska.

To be fair, some of us don't give a f**k what Gaska thinks.

Quite.

Mr.Turok

Mr.Turok

#265
*raises hand*

I do, I like consistency.

Quote from: Slutty Badger on Nov 10, 2024, 06:55:38 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Nov 10, 2024, 02:15:17 PMWould it be bad if we wound up with multiple canons?

We already have. Alien, Predator, and AVP are all separate universes. Can't remember where I read it, but three versions of Aliens occur in all three timelines according to Andrew Gaska.

I would have to wonder what went different on the Predator version of the Aliens incident. I figured Fire and Stone/Life and Death was the AVP version of what went down on Hadley's Hope, so funny wondering on the Predator "only" side of things.

I just want them to plop down the Predator bible already.....

BlueMarsalis79

BlueMarsalis79

#266
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 10, 2024, 02:22:01 PMAlien has had multiple continuitues since 2012, when Prometheus released and was totally incompatible with AVP and AVPR.

I'm not sure I'd call that alternate continuities, just them being retconned. (In my perspective anyway, and in the near future Badlands might do the sane with The Predator imo)

With everything outside the films existing in a grey area between them being acknowledged or not on a case by case basis.

426Buddy

426Buddy

#267
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 10, 2024, 10:12:17 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Nov 10, 2024, 06:55:38 PMaccording to Andrew Gaska.

To be fair, some of us don't give a f**k what Gaska thinks.
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Nov 10, 2024, 10:12:17 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Nov 10, 2024, 06:55:38 PMaccording to Andrew Gaska.

To be fair, some of us don't give a f**k what Gaska thinks.

The more I hear about his ideas from Badger, the less I like him. Now I hear his name and my eyes automatically role.

RakaiThwei

RakaiThwei

#268

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