http://www.thearnoldfans.com/news/2016/3/6/exclusive-arnold-to-discuss-the-predator-with-director-shane.html
Take this with a grain of salt guys... We know that last time that Robert Rodriguez wanted to get Arnold in the last Predator movie.
I think it's very important to get Arnold in Predator 3, of course, not like in the silly alternate ending where he comes out a spaceship leading a pack of predators ...(See the Predators script.)
Would be cool for him to be the co star.
I don't know if I want Arnold back. I mean the man is pushing 70.. And he really looks aged. Sure, he looked fine in Terminator Genisys but... I don't know if I want him back. Maybe as a mentor role... MAYBE but... for him to take on the Predator? No.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 07, 2016, 01:53:16 AM
I don't know if I want Arnold back. I mean the man is pushing 70.. And he really looks aged. Sure, he looked fine in Terminator Genisys but... I don't know if I want him back. Maybe as a mentor role... MAYBE but... for him to take on the Predator? No.
He looks ace for the job, a 70 years old Arnie will always be more credible than a skinny pianist.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 07, 2016, 01:50:37 AM
I think it's very important to get Arnold in Predator 3, of course, not like in the silly alternate ending where he comes out a spaceship leading a pack of predators ...(See the Predators script.)
Would be cool for him to be the co star.
Isn't this predator 4?
Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 07, 2016, 03:01:57 AM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 07, 2016, 01:50:37 AM
I think it's very important to get Arnold in Predator 3, of course, not like in the silly alternate ending where he comes out a spaceship leading a pack of predators ...(See the Predators script.)
Would be cool for him to be the co star.
Isn't this predator 4?
After Predator 2 there is Predator 3.Predators is just a bad dream.
Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 07, 2016, 03:01:57 AM
Isn't this predator 4?
If you want to count the AVPs for completion's sake... this would be Predator 6.
His role needn't be bigger than either a cameo or as a small plot point role. I mean if he is involved in the story, then it should be minimally or if in a more substantial role. Then he doesn't really have the kind of show down with the Predator he did in '87. I'd rather he not steal the spotlight from the new main character.
All in all, I do think Arnie should return before he dies or gets any older. Again, only in a small cameo or part.
I don't think it can work well. I don't think its needed. I was all for Arnold's cameo in early 2000 but now I feel time for such things has ended.
I would be all for it, the character has become a cult over the years and i always wanted to know what happened to Dutch after all this years, that would really be awesome.
If it must be done then bring back both Dutch and Harrigan. Could be good as long as they aren't killing shit.
Quote from: Master on Mar 07, 2016, 07:46:01 AM
If it must be done then bring back both Dutch and Harrigan. Could be good as long as they aren't killing shit.
Agreed. I don't want to see a senior citizen fighting a Predator. That would be...just a sad sight. Namely for the Predator.
Quote from: bobcunk on Mar 07, 2016, 03:01:57 AM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 07, 2016, 01:50:37 AM
I think it's very important to get Arnold in Predator 3, of course, not like in the silly alternate ending where he comes out a spaceship leading a pack of predators ...(See the Predators script.)
Would be cool for him to be the co star.
Isn't this predator 4?
It is Predator 4. The AvPs are a separate series but this is the 4th in the Predator series. :)
Whilst I think Arnie is more than capable of going in with some degree of a combat role (I mean, seriously, look at the guy! He looks amazing for his age!) I'd quite happily see him in some sort of advisory role. Or perhaps some sort of commander figure.
Thanks for the news Rakai. It's a shame I was asleep at the time (damn timezones!).
For somebody that liked T:G are you guys sure you want Arnold in this? I mean I sure as heck want to see him in it. However the way I look at it is this, there's no bullshit time travel in the Predator Universe (that we know about) so both P1 and P2 should be safe. :P
However this is 70 year old human being Arnold and not cyborg Arnold. So direct combat just isn't going to happen. Well hopefully he isn't cyberentic in this... the same thing goes for Danny Glover. I wouldn't mind seeing him either. However I'd have to think that perhaps Arnold want a little payback for his squad of ultimate bad asses. Plus as da choppa was leaving he had that look of why, what, how, etc. I think he has a desire to get some answers.
QuoteFor somebody that liked T:G are you guys sure you want Arnold in this?
I liked T:G, personally, and even the haters of this movie will agree that Arnold was the best thing about it, and he really was, i enjoyed it very much because of Arnold, he's great in it.
I see it this way: Arnold isn't necessary for The Predator, agreed on that, but if he's in it, that would be an extra bonus for me and from all the Sequels it would actually be something new, because we haven't seen the character for over 30 years.
Either way, win win for me.
Arnold must arrive by choppa to meet him. :D
If he ends up being in it, they better not have him fighting a Predator. He's way too old for that to be believable.
That said, a cameo would be cool. I'd even love to see him either advising or heading up a military team that's after or studying a Predator.
I'd love to see Arnold.
But like others have pointed out, he's way too old to fight a Predator. I doubt the Predators would even notice him on a hunt as he once had the strength to take on one (barely), now that strength is gone.
However, Arnie's biggest strength against the Predators wouldn't be physical, but experience.
He'd be a great advisor against them. Though I must ask, Arnie's biggest pointer will be "they see in heat", would Arnie know that other Predators have different vision modes? That could be an interesting point.
"They see een heet, you mast covah yourself in mahd so they don't see youu... theoretically..."
"But, sir, our Spec Ops team did just that and got slaughtered..."
"... geev me a meenut, I need to theenk ahp a nyu plan. I'll be back..."
Ok, I really want Arnie to be in this now. ;D
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 07, 2016, 03:04:38 AM
After Predator 2 there is Predator 3.Predators is just a bad dream.
Good man
I've yet to see anybody come up with a story concept involving Dutch which came across as desirable, let alone necessary.
Dutch searching for answers for thirty years and just now getting some would be an interesting g story. He isn't necessary, but that doesn't mean a good story can't be told if he is in it. I would argue he is more necessary than some character that hasn't been involved already. I agree, he shouldn't go mano a predator either. Except maybe with heavy firepower and good cover and a good visual on the target. Seeing a predator disregard him due to age could be interesting too. I also need to hear Dutch say pussyface lol.
Dutch searching for answers for thirty years and just now getting some would be an interesting g story. He isn't necessary, but that doesn't mean a good story can't be told if he is in it. I would argue he is more necessary than some character that hasn't been involved already. I agree, he shouldn't go mano a predator either. Except maybe with heavy firepower and good cover and a good visual on the target. Seeing a predator disregard him due to age could be interesting too. I also need to hear Dutch say pussyface lol.
Arnold is not too old to push a trigger that's for sure.
All I'm gonna say is...
Spoiler
GET TO THE CHOPPER!!!!
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 07, 2016, 02:41:47 PM
All I'm gonna say is...
Spoiler
GET TO THE CHOPPER!!!!
DO EET NAAAUUUUWWWW!!!
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Mar 07, 2016, 03:36:57 PM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 07, 2016, 02:41:47 PM
All I'm gonna say is...
Spoiler
GET TO THE CHOPPER!!!!
DO EET NAAAUUUUWWWW!!!
I do believe the CIA may have you pushing too many pencils..
No, bad Arnold. Take the Conan meeting and get that movie made instead.
Anybody know Dutch's last name?
Schaefer.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 07, 2016, 04:19:23 PM
Schaefer.
Oh yeah, that's right. I remember that from the original Dark Horse comic now that I think about it. It's Dutch's brother who didn't have a first name if I remember correctly.
your on a alien vs predator website and you don't like predators haha wtf, sure some of the dialog was to simplified but if anything predators is better then the first sequel, if Arnold is involved at the very least of a co-starring role this film will bring in bigger box office numbers then predators , and ultimately as fans of this franchise that's what we need to get another sequel happening faster rather then so many years in between.
Sounds like it will be a minor cameo appearance if he hasn't even talked to Shane yet. If it was anything more substantial, they'd have approached him ages ago, given the script is finished. It's what I predicted though. Arnie was always going to be in it in some way but it does limit the story to a sort of present day Earth setting in some remote part of the world. It's cool though. Arnie is a big reason why I like Predator so much.
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Mar 07, 2016, 02:09:24 PM
But like others have pointed out, he's way too old to fight a Predator. I doubt the Predators would even notice him on a hunt as he once had the strength to take on one (barely), now that strength is gone.
"They see een heet, you mast covah yourself in mahd so they don't see youu... theoretically..."
Ok, I really want Arnie to be in this now. ;D
theoretically... haha that's actually f**king hilarious now. I'll be back. Theoretically... If it bleeds, we can kill it. Theoretically... Oh good god that is amazing. Theoretically...
Hmm can't have old Arnie battling predators in mortal combat, however, what about old Arnie battle old Predator. I mean they do age, right? Maybe a grand smack down between Dutch and the Elder in charge. Yea it sounds stupid but I'm just saying. Theoretically... :laugh:
I'm totally up for Arnold.. The less seriously you take Predator, the better...
Yeah... No. Goofy stuff is needed but shouldn't dominate. On the other hand Predators tried to be dead serious and it didn't work out so well either.
It would be cool to see Arnold return as Dutch one more time.
I wonder if Shane Black will continue off at the end of Predator 2 when Harrigan tells Garber " Don't worry Asshole, you'll get another chance" or if he's going to somehow tie all the solo Predator movies together not the Avp's. If that's the case then maybe All 3 should return Dutch Harrigan and Royce. But I remember reading that The Predator will be a sequel to Predator 1987 but takes place before Predator2. If that's the case then the timeline of the Predator films in order of events would be like this 1) Predator
2) The Predator
3) Predator 2
4) Predators.
Even though Predators doesn't acknowledge Predator 2 it still takes place after it ( According to Nimrod Antal ) so it's Predator 3.
I heard a while back that Arnie was originally going to be in Predator 2 but he decided to sign up for Terminator 2 with James Cameron. I really wonder what the movie would be if it was Arnie instead of Danny Glover. The whole setting could have been different maybe. I don't know anything about the first rewrites.
I read that Garey Buseys role as Peter Keyes was going to be Dutch and Dutch and Harrigan would team up at the end to fight the Predator which would of been so cool but the character was rewritten for Garey Busey.
Quote from: Master on Mar 07, 2016, 10:37:52 PM
Yeah... No. Goofy stuff is needed but shouldn't dominate. On the other hand Predators tried to be dead serious and it didn't work out so well either.
I think at this stage there is no way to see Arnie in this type of film without it being a sort of farcical satire of himself. I think if he tells anyone to Get to the Chopper or anything like that, the audience will laugh their asses off, and rightly so. Every two-bit comedian will pick up on it and incorporate it into their skit. Its what SNL dreams are made of.
Duch,Harrigan and Garber could be back but we dont know anything about the plot yet.
Garber became the head of the OWLF and he may need the old guys to help him out with a plan which Harrigan dont like and hates Garber so he's leaving.(Later rejoins because he afraids preds visiting him because he killed one ,so he better prepare)
They have time to prepare because they know the hunters visiting Earth in every ten years and they alredy had Predstuff from P2.
So,if they have Arnold than this is present day in 2017.I prefer for a predator movie to be on Earth in present time.
Will be interesting if they mentions Predators or not.
+They need Alan Silverstri back as well for the score.
Quote from: Master on Mar 07, 2016, 07:46:01 AM
If it must be done then bring back both Dutch and Harrigan. Could be good as long as they aren't killing shit.
I want these characters to have some more closure. And not the wrist blades through the heart kind either. I think if they were in a mentoring role/leadership role, that would be awesome. However, a duel would not be unheard of. Elder vs Harrigan.
Quote from: Spooky799kil on Mar 07, 2016, 11:52:35 PM
I heard a while back that Arnie was originally going to be in Predator 2 but he decided to sign up for Terminator 2 with James Cameron. I really wonder what the movie would be if it was Arnie instead of Danny Glover. The whole setting could have been different maybe. I don't know anything about the first rewrites.
I also remember the rumors that he was going to have a cameo in the first AVP movie if he lost the election for California governor.
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Mar 08, 2016, 03:52:15 AM
I also remember the rumors that he was going to have a cameo in the first AVP movie if he lost the election for California governor.
Those rumors were confirmed but never came through since he won the election.
Its well past time for Arnold to reprise his role in a Predator film. This is very exciting news.
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 08, 2016, 03:54:48 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Mar 08, 2016, 03:52:15 AM
I also remember the rumors that he was going to have a cameo in the first AVP movie if he lost the election for California governor.
Those rumors were confirmed but never came through since he won the election.
Wait... you mean they actually would have referenced something from the Predator movies? That's insane, AVP and Req were practically Alien series mythology porn. They seemed to care very little about the Predator movies.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 08, 2016, 03:57:02 AM
Wait... you mean they actually would have referenced something from the Predator movies? That's insane, AVP and Req were practically Alien series mythology porn. They seemed to care very little about the Predator movies.
Yeah, I think Anderson approached Arnold to do a cameo.. There was even a bit written in the script where Alexa sees a big burly figure with a lit cigar, and is grabbed by the arm by Dutch who is leading a special forces group or something.
Quote from: marrerom on Mar 08, 2016, 03:55:03 AM
Its well past time for Arnold to reprise his role in a Predator film. This is very exciting news.
True, one could argue that this is his second biggest role on screen after Terminator. Why not?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 08, 2016, 03:57:02 AM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 08, 2016, 03:54:48 AM
Quote from: Hellspawn28 on Mar 08, 2016, 03:52:15 AM
I also remember the rumors that he was going to have a cameo in the first AVP movie if he lost the election for California governor.
Those rumors were confirmed but never came through since he won the election.
Wait... you mean they actually would have referenced something from the Predator movies? That's insane, AVP and Req were practically Alien series mythology porn. They seemed to care very little about the Predator movies.
I always thought of them more as Predator movies. I remember hearing that rumour too.
Quote from: Darkness on Mar 07, 2016, 07:12:46 PM
Arnie was always going to be in it in some way but it does limit the story to a sort of present day Earth setting in some remote part of the world.
I hadn't thought about that. :-\ That actually saddens me.
QuoteI always thought of them more as Predator movies.
Really? Weyland Industries, Lance Henriksen, strong female leads... interesting
Quote from: Darkness on Mar 07, 2016, 07:12:46 PM
Sounds like it will be a minor cameo appearance if he hasn't even talked to Shane yet. If it was anything more substantial, they'd have approached him ages ago, given the script is finished. It's what I predicted though. Arnie was always going to be in it in some way but it does limit the story to a sort of present day Earth setting in some remote part of the world. It's cool though. Arnie is a big reason why I like Predator so much.
Totally. Would be so good to see Arnie in a Predator film again. It could really be the last ever opportunity.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Mar 08, 2016, 09:34:18 AM
QuoteI always thought of them more as Predator movies.
Really? Weyland Industries, Lance Henriksen, strong female leads... interesting
Modern day settings, heavy in expansion of Predator lore. Though I can see where people could swing either way.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 08, 2016, 11:04:18 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Mar 08, 2016, 09:34:18 AM
QuoteI always thought of them more as Predator movies.
Really? Weyland Industries, Lance Henriksen, strong female leads... interesting
heavy in expansion of Predator lore. Though I can see where people could swing either way.
Of course, the movies do have Predator trademarks, but they are definitely more grounded in the Alien universe, given the same Company and stuff, serving (if one likes to) as a prequel why the company knew about the Alien.
QuoteModern day settings
If you think about it, that's really the only thing they share with the Predator universe.
Outside of attempting a strong female character and having the name Weyland (and Yutani), I don't agree with it being more grounded in Alien. Neither film feel like an Alien film to me.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 08, 2016, 11:41:06 AM
Outside of attempting a strong female character and having the name Weyland (and Yutani), I don't agree with it being more grounded in Alien. Neither film feel like an Alien film to me.
TBH, neither film felt like either of the franchises. I agree with
Johnny Handsome, the first film leaned more towards Alien slightly (or tried too). AvPR was unquestionably the Predator centric of the two.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Mar 08, 2016, 11:25:11 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 08, 2016, 11:04:18 AM
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Mar 08, 2016, 09:34:18 AM
QuoteI always thought of them more as Predator movies.
Really? Weyland Industries, Lance Henriksen, strong female leads... interesting
heavy in expansion of Predator lore. Though I can see where people could swing either way.
Of course, the movies do have Predator trademarks, but they are definitely more grounded in the Alien universe, given the same Company and stuff, serving (if one likes to) as a prequel why the company knew about the Alien.
QuoteModern day settings
If you think about it, that's really the only thing they share with the Predator universe.
The first AVP was certainly grounded in the Alien lore and served as a prequel of sorts. However, AvP-R was solidly a unofficial Predator film and had more aspects of the Predator universe (O.W.L.F. the setting, the homeworld).
I don't think either series wants the AvP movies to be apart of them :laugh: lol
Quote from: razeak on Mar 07, 2016, 02:37:45 PM
Dutch searching for answers for thirty years and just now getting some would be an interesting g story. He isn't necessary, but that doesn't mean a good story can't be told if he is in it. I would argue he is more necessary than some character that hasn't been involved already. I agree, he shouldn't go mano a predator either. Except maybe with heavy firepower and good cover and a good visual on the target. Seeing a predator disregard him due to age could be interesting too. I also need to hear Dutch say pussyface lol.
See, that's exactly what I mean. He really
isn't necessary. He already
gained retribution. The Predator who killed his guys is dead - effectively by his own hand, no less. What difference would it make whether it's Dutch or a new character going on investigations?
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 07, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
No, bad Arnold. Take the Conan meeting and get that movie made instead.
Agreed. If done right, that's got both huge potential and far more of a need for him to be featuring.
Quote from: Mike on Mar 08, 2016, 12:50:22 AM
I read that Garey Buseys role as Peter Keyes was going to be Dutch and Dutch and Harrigan would team up at the end to fight the Predator which would of been so cool but the character was rewritten for Garey Busey.
Am not sure of the particulars, but yes, from what I've read, it was meant to be the character of Keyes.
And I'm sure nobody here thinks that would have been a good end for Dutch's character... Not that Dutch would have made much sense in that role (certainly not an in-the-know operative type), but '
Predator 2' was a big ball of neon-lit nineties crazy, anyway. :)
I've never quite been able to figure out whether Dutch's team were even a part of the military or some sort of mercenaries. The first film never really makes that clear. There are some mentions about wanting them for some sort of plausible deniability and Dutch makes it clear he can pick and choose which missions he undertakes, which wouldn't make sense if he's a part of the actual military chain of command - he'd have to comply with whichever missions he is being tasked with.
Either way, the guy's a soldier in the field. Not someone who's spent most of his career in analysis. There would be no reason for him to be put in a Keyes-like position and filled in on black secret projects.
Quote from: Danny Harrigan on Mar 08, 2016, 01:54:16 AM
Garber became the head of the OWLF
Why? He seemed like a generic underling. What made him so special? There would have been many more like Keyes ready to be shunted over to that position (hopefully, candidates who were a lot more competent, too).
Also, OWLF was their acronym for the Predator. Wouldn't have made much sense for them to be calling their own organisation that. :)
Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 08, 2016, 03:02:07 AM
I want these characters to have some more closure.
Dutch/Harrigan already
had closure.
I'd very much like to see Adam Baldwin back. Yeah he was not competent enough in P2 but now he could have been much older and seasoned. A manhunt (predhunt?) a la First Blood done by prepared unit was and is my dream come true scenario for Predator sequel.
Quote from: Master on Mar 09, 2016, 07:52:29 AMI'd very much like to see Adam Baldwin back.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing more of him. Considering his role was something of a non-part, I'm strangely interested in the character.
I'd also love to see Baldwin return - mostly just because it's Adam Baldwin than any attachment to Garber though.
Maybe he will give ideas.
If Arnold does come back I rekon he should only play a small part like maybe get killed at the start of the movie by 'the predator' (as a sort of revenge) and then they can introduce new characters.
I doubt an early death would go down very well with fans.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2016, 01:45:45 PM
I doubt an early death would go down very well with fans.
No. No it would not... >:(
I actually wouldn't mind him dying, but you'd need a reason for a Predator to kill him when other films reveal the species apparently has respect for those who best one in combat. That would kinda negate it happening right at the start.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 10, 2016, 02:08:05 PM
I actually wouldn't mind him dying, but you'd need a reason for a Predator to kill him when other films reveal the species apparently has respect for those who best one in combat. That would kinda negate it happening right at the start.
Agreed. I don't mind Dutch being killed off if it somehow serves the story and gels with what we've seen In previous installments. I just don't fancy Durch being killed off for the sake of it in the beginning of the movie ala Hicks n' Newt. Not after all these years no less.
I'd have no issue with Dutch dying in the film, as long as it served a purpose to the story. And as long as he went down fighting.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2016, 02:41:07 PM
I'd have no issue with Dutch dying in the film, as long as it served a purpose to the story. [bold]And as long as he went down fighting.[/bold]
Yes, that. I defiantly don't want Dutch getting punked by a Predator without trying to fight back. That just goes against the character we've known for 20 some odd years.
Yes it would have to be a "good death" like that of Han Solo. If they go the meaningless death route, the fans will be very displeased..
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 10, 2016, 02:41:07 PM
I'd have no issue with Dutch dying in the film, as long as it served a purpose to the story. And as long as he went down fighting.
Pretty sure he's not gonna die if he's in the film.
Dutch should live I think why kill him off. He's legendary. You think by killing Dutch would make him more? No I think that's a stupid ideal. Dutch Harrigan and Royce should all live and not get killed off.
I think its better of not having him at all,Just have him a character that has been mentioned(which it has!)
Quote from: THE CITY HUNTER on Mar 10, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
I think its better of not having him at all,Just have him a character that has been mentioned(which it has!)
Arnie will be a nice addition if the story fits, it would be cool to see the OWLF still trying to capture another predator, and Dutch would fit.
Arnold as the President of the United State of America?
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 10, 2016, 10:52:51 PM
Arnold as the President of the United State of America?
"I was elected to lead, not to read!"
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 10, 2016, 10:55:50 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 10, 2016, 10:52:51 PM
Arnold as the President of the United State of America?
"I was elected to lead, not to read!"
They could go the independence day route. "I'm a killer General. I belong in the battle." No you were part of an elite rescue team. Nah, Dillon was right, I'm an asset. An expendable asset and soon the predator will be expended.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 10, 2016, 04:09:15 PM
Yes it would have to be a "good death" like that of Han Solo. If they go the meaningless death route, the fans will be very displeased..
Han's death was lame and was obvious.
Fans are pissed about it. They are just over shadowed by the $900mill domestic box office.
predator is legendary i hope they don't terminator genysis it. theres so many places to go with it! I'm at the point where i would like some new stories. seriously same story with alien 5 i love ripley and hicks as much as you guys but whats done is done. don't convolute it anymore
Please no.
If more 'Predator' movies are made just do one thing... try to make a good movie. Don't try to include fanservice. Don't. Just don't. Nope. Bad idea. It distracts from the movie (it completely takes you out of it to remind you that the first movie's a thing and that was good). That is with the exception of "You're one ugly mother..." because that's tradition.
To relate this back to the article, keep Arnold Schwarzenegger away from the movie. Whether it be a cameo or main role, it is a bad idea as it turns the movie into "meh" fanfiction.
Quote from: CelticPred97 on Mar 11, 2016, 08:24:31 AMTo relate this back to the article, keep Arnold Schwarzenegger away from the movie. Whether it be a cameo or main role, it is a bad idea as it turns the movie into "meh" fanfiction.
But that's assuming Black hasn't come up with a story that involves Dutch in a meaningful way. There's nothing wrong with having him come back if it actually serves a purpose in the film. It only becomes fanfiction when they shove him in there for no other reason than because they wanted to.
^^ As HuDa says. It's too early to judge that it's going to be fanwank. Arnold and Dutch has never been shoehorned into the Predator like Weaver and Ripley has in Aliens.
Quote from: Master on Mar 09, 2016, 07:52:29 AM
I'd very much like to see Adam Baldwin back. Yeah he was not competent enough in P2 but now he could have been much older and seasoned. A manhunt (predhunt?) a la First Blood done by prepared unit was and is my dream come true scenario for Predator sequel.
He had the chance to return to that character in '
Requiem'. He laughed at the Strause brothers' request and slammed the telephone down -
without even bothering to so much as look at the script. So, there really isn't much chance of that happening, at all.
Can't say I blame him. Garber was absolutely
not the kind of role he would've done for anything other than the money (his role in '
Independence Day' was much the same). He's moved on to infinitely better and more memorable characters since those days.
Yeah ok. but this Garber would be much more important character then in 1990. I know what he did when Strause contacted him. It was a good call in the end.
They should make the movie a retired buddy cop drama. Two old fogy's pair up to investigated some murders totally unaware that both have dealt with the predator in the past. They then used good old detective work and experience and capture the sob. The Predator then realizes that humans aren't just stupid beast but something that could be mutually beneficial to them. The US Government wants none of this shit. Hilarious puns ensure. Danny Glover's like, I'm really too damn old for this shit. Arnold says, I'm not coming back. They then untie the Predator and what follows is the greatest car chase sequence in film history.
They should give Seagal a cameo and confirm that the Jamiacan voodoo gangs from Predator 2 and Marked for Death are the same. :laugh:
Yea he can ride shotgun in one of the pursuer cars. Glover then punches him in the face at some point. Like a literal drive-by punch from car to car. The predator then blows up the car and they all have a laugh. Arnold hands out the cigars.
No, the predator is not Joe Pesci's Leo Getz.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Mar 12, 2016, 12:16:52 AMThey should give Seagal a cameo and confirm that the Jamiacan voodoo gangs from Predator 2 and Marked for Death are the same. :laugh:
:laugh:
"Who do it? Da white boy Hatcha?"
Quote from: whiterabbit on Mar 11, 2016, 11:45:30 PM
They should make the movie a retired buddy cop drama. Two old fogy's pair up to investigated some murders totally unaware that both have dealt with the predator in the past. They then used good old detective work and experience and capture the sob. The Predator then realizes that humans aren't just stupid beast but something that could be mutually beneficial to them. The US Government wants none of this shit. Hilarious puns ensure. Danny Glover's like, I'm really too damn old for this shit. Arnold says, I'm not coming back. They then untie the Predator and what follows is the greatest car chase sequence in film history.
:laugh:
Well their hasn't been a strong lead role in these films since the first movie, so why not bring Arnold back. Just don't kill him or play second fiddle to a younger lead.
Predator 2 and Predators both had strong lead role. It's just not Arnold's strong lead role.
Royce was one of the best things about Predators, I thought.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 14, 2016, 08:35:33 AM
Royce was one of the best things about Predators, I thought.
I agree, i thought Adrian Brody did a fine job as the lone mercenary type.
Brody did a fine job at sucking hardcore.With his crappy forced voice a la Batman.
Watching him trying to mimick Dutch with the mud and torch was almost comical despite the pain.
Royce was the best part of the movie for me as well, thought he did a great job.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 14, 2016, 03:34:57 PM
Brody did a fine job at sucking hardcore.With his crappy forced voice a la Batman.
Watching him trying to mimick Dutch with the mud and torch was almost comical despite the pain.
Lol! What 'Batman Voice'? He never once tried a phony baritone voice. As for the mud, he tried it with multiple fires too disrupt the Berserkers Thermal Vision. I don't remember Dutch doing the same.
I loved the fires. I thought it was a smart touch.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 14, 2016, 06:52:17 PM
I loved the fires. I thought it was a smart touch.
So did I, it was a nice spin on the mud idea. It also showed Royce's ingenuity.
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on Mar 14, 2016, 06:16:44 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 14, 2016, 03:34:57 PM
Brody did a fine job at sucking hardcore.With his crappy forced voice a la Batman.
Watching him trying to mimick Dutch with the mud and torch was almost comical despite the pain.
Lol! What 'Batman Voice'? He never once tried a phony baritone voice. As for the mud, he tried it with multiple fires too disrupt the Berserkers Thermal Vision. I don't remember Dutch doing the same.
You know that forced voice he used to look badass,kinda like Bale when he played Batman.
Dutch sets a fire.
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 14, 2016, 07:59:05 PMDutch sets a fire.
Not to hide himself. It's just a signal to let the Predator know he's there.
Royce actually used the flames for concealment. It was one of the few times I thought
Predators was genuinely clever.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 14, 2016, 08:02:18 PM
Quote from: Predator_Spirit on Mar 14, 2016, 07:59:05 PMDutch sets a fire.
Not to hide himself. It's just a signal to let the Predator know he's there.
Royce actually used the flames for concealment. It was one of the few times I thought Predators was genuinely clever.
That ,but the fire was also used To spot the pred , he had To approach the fire, making him very visible and
Slow,a perfect target for Dutch.
I for one liked Royce. They set him up as being unlikable but in the end the dude was just trying to survive like everyone else. I also like how he was aware of his surroundings and always thinking one or two steps ahead. Instead of just walking into it like most character do in this movie. It also showed why military training is important in combat vs the average street thug mentality.
I had no beef with Royce. The actor was perhaps an unusual choice for an action hero, but he played it well. He had a good arc. He started on one side of the arc and his value changed completely by the time he was on the other end. He came out a different person.
Royce was an interesting and believable character. Brody did a great job.
I'm not familiar with his previous roles enough to associate him with other roles that are polar opposites from this one. I just knew he was the guy from Pianist and that's it. He's probably the best thing about Predators.
Other than Predators, I only really know him from Splice. Which was a different kind of film. I still think he was good as Royce. I really liked that he was less of an overly muscular guy but someone who had his wits about him.
Arnold should be in this. Plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise you are over-thinking it AND you have a ton of other crappy Pred movies to be your guide. AVP's, Predators.... They were C-level (Predators you can argue was "B"-level, some cool stuff). Pred and Pred 2 are legit movies. You need to bring legitimacy back to this thing. Not some campy comic-book-like irrationality.
Arnold being old is no matter, if anything it brings a sense of REALITY back to the screen. Also Arnold leading a pack of Preds is LOL. No doubt he LOL'd at Rodriguez on that one and said "no thanks".
Shane Black knows the gameplan that got Pred to be legit and he's gonna get back to that gameplan. AKA Arnold. And Arnold knows it too.
It's gonna happen and it's looooooooooooooong over due. Can't wait to add "The Predator" to my movie shelf and finally toss AVP's to the garabage and move "Predators" to the bottom shelf. It's pretty bad when my 10 year old loll's at the movies after Pred 1 and 2, asking after...."Why didn't Arnold come back?"
Quote from: Original Predator on Mar 15, 2016, 02:21:00 PMArnold should be in this. Plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise you are over-thinking it AND you have a ton of other crappy Pred movies to be your guide. AVP's, Predators.... They were C-level (Predators you can argue was "B"-level, some cool stuff).
Those films wouldn't have suddenly become better just because you put Arnie in them.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 15, 2016, 02:52:54 PM
Quote from: Original Predator on Mar 15, 2016, 02:21:00 PMArnold should be in this. Plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise you are over-thinking it AND you have a ton of other crappy Pred movies to be your guide. AVP's, Predators.... They were C-level (Predators you can argue was "B"-level, some cool stuff).
Those films wouldn't have suddenly become better just because you put Arnie in them.
Yes, they probably would.
Quote from: Original Predator on Mar 15, 2016, 02:21:00 PM
Arnold should be in this. Plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise you are over-thinking it AND you have a ton of other crappy Pred movies to be your guide. AVP's, Predators.... They were C-level (Predators you can argue was "B"-level, some cool stuff). Pred and Pred 2 are legit movies. You need to bring legitimacy back to this thing. Not some campy comic-book-like irrationality.
Arnold being old is no matter, if anything it brings a sense of REALITY back to the screen. Also Arnold leading a pack of Preds is LOL. No doubt he LOL'd at Rodriguez on that one and said "no thanks".
Shane Black knows the gameplan that got Pred to be legit and he's gonna get back to that gameplan. AKA Arnold. And Arnold knows it too.
It's gonna happen and it's looooooooooooooong over due. Can't wait to add "The Predator" to my movie shelf and finally toss AVP's to the garabage and move "Predators" to the bottom shelf. It's pretty bad when my 10 year old loll's at the movies after Pred 1 and 2, asking after...."Why didn't Arnold come back?"
I am more and more leaning towards Arnold as a core element of the Predator franchise. Perhaps that was the missing element all this time? It's like doing a Terminator film focused on Cyberdyne, with no T-800 Arnold Terminator models.
I think a good angle would be if we see Arnold working for the CIA like Dylon was. Somebody asks him if he's been pushing too many pencils, and he finds himself getting back into the jungle.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 15, 2016, 03:15:19 PMYes, they probably would.
OK, admittedly they might have been
better. But they still wouldn't have been
good.
You can put a few grams of gold in shite, but you've still got mostly shite at the end of the day.
Admittedly, I'm really enjoy of all 3 of the Predator films, but the problems with Predator 2 and Predators lie a bit deeper than simply one cast member. Bear in mind both were already intended to feature Arnie anyway. In the case of Predator 2 we got Keyes instead, with Predators we had a lame ass ending sequence.
I actually really wish we'd got Arnie in the second film as originally planned. Not because I think the film needed it - I really like Predator 2 and consider it a pretty underrated movie - but because it would've been fun to see Arnie play a more villainous, perhaps psychologically damaged version of Dutch.
But having Arnie in Predators or the AVP films wouldn't have magically made them great films, because the cast either wasn't the main problem, or there were too many other issues on top of that.
I dunno, not sure I'd trade crazy Busey for Arnold in that movie.
Busey was great and clearly went his own way with the role, but I just feel there was more potential in giving Arnie the part.
Especially if they'd given some of the character's earlier scenes to Adam Baldwin instead, then held Arnie back for the big reveal nearer the end. That would've been sweet.
Stay with me here guys.
The point of Arnold being in the film is "legitimacty". As I stated before. Arnold LOL'd at Rodriguez, wanting to "lead" a pack of Preds'. Campy, comic book fodder save that for a different realm of entertainment (books, comics, video games etc...).
Which is the entire point. Arnold would have never done AVP's and even LOL'd at Preds (the superior movie of the bunch) because he knew it was crap. Hence putting him in it, would still be crap (as pointed out).
Him holding out AND at this point in his career (money is in the bank, Star is on the map) he can be selective. So by virtue of him merely meeting with Shane Black (and I'm gonna say Black has a LEGIT non Comic-Book script ala the first pred) Arnold is already in the process of legitimizing this thing.
If Arnold agrees. You can count on a good Pred (finally) movie.
I understand your line of thinking there. However, it hasn't stopped Arnie from being in some stinkers - looking at you Genisys!
Exactly. Arnie's done more than his fair share of naff films. And to be honest none of his films since his return to cinema have been especially exceptional.
For some reason he was only really picky about Predator movies. Maybe he only has a sense for what makes a good Predator movie.
Not really. He was notoriously anti-sequel during the late 80s/early 90s. After Conan the Destroyer was so badly received he refused to do any sequels until Cameron came along with Terminator 2. It's the reason he wasn't in Predator 2 and it's also the reason Commando 2 never got made.
And also wasn't he too busy being the Governator at some point which prevented him from being in Predators or something?
That wasn't until much later, during the 2000s.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 15, 2016, 09:37:45 PM
That wasn't until much later, during the 2000s.
I meant for the AvP's or Predators. I may be misremembering. I just recalled hearing he was meant to appear in one of the films he's well known being in for but his duties as governor got in the way. It might've been for Terminator 4.
Adrienne Brody does not have the presence to be an action hero. He seems more suited playing a villainous henchmen. He is way too small and wiry of a man to stand up to the Predator the way he did. You need big people like Terry Crews in these kinds of movies.
Quote from: genocyber on Mar 15, 2016, 11:26:28 PM
Adrienne Brody does not have the presence to be an action hero. He seems more suited playing a villainous henchmen. He is way too small and wiry of a man to stand up to the Predator the way he did. You need big people like Terry Crews in these kinds of movies.
Danny Glover wasn't exactly mister Olympia either. So... Is he also more suited to a villainous henchmen role?
When it comes down to it. Muscle was never the reason Dutch survived his encounter with the Predator. It was his ingenuity and knowledge of the Jungle Hunter's weakness that helped. Even
then he got his ass kicked in a purely pyshical confrontation. So I don't think you
need muscle heads to star in these movies.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 15, 2016, 05:49:32 PM
I understand your line of thinking there. However, it hasn't stopped Arnie from being in some stinkers - looking at you Genisys!
Batman and Robin... Let's not forget Batman and Robin! Those ice puns! Ha ha ha ha!!
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Mar 16, 2016, 02:55:55 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 15, 2016, 05:49:32 PM
I understand your line of thinking there. However, it hasn't stopped Arnie from being in some stinkers - looking at you Genisys!
Batman and Robin... Let's not forget Batman and Robin! Those ice puns! Ha ha ha ha!!
Junior...
Quote from: genocyber on Mar 15, 2016, 11:26:28 PMAdrienne Brody does not have the presence to be an action hero. He seems more suited playing a villainous henchmen. He is way too small and wiry of a man to stand up to the Predator the way he did. You need big people like Terry Crews in these kinds of movies.
As JungleHunter87 says, Danny Glover wasn't even slightly ripped in the second film. Brody was way bigger than him in
Predators.
But muscles aren't important.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 16, 2016, 08:39:37 AM
As JungleHunter87 says, Danny Glover wasn't even slightly ripped in the second film. Brody was way bigger than him in Predators.
But muscles aren't important.
Muscles are sort of important because the stronger the man, the more he attracts the Predator (for hunt, you perverts).
It would be a bit insulting if any random scrawny guy defeated an alien who specializes in hunting dangerous life forms. It's insulting Danny Glover was able to defeat one. Hunting is what they do and you can't tell them not to quit their day job if they get killed by a nearly retired cop.
Almost everyone could have beaten up Glover in the movie, yet he defeats the monster, and it's not even on wit. It was a hand to hand combat. I don't care the Predator was shot several times and lost his arm, he still should have been able to kill him without a problem.
So I'd say muscles are important to portray that the human they're after is not an ordinary guy, but someone who's strong and able to fight.
A human being is perfectly capable of being dangerous and challenging without having Arnie's physique.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 16, 2016, 09:52:23 AM
A human being is perfectly capable of being dangerous and challenging without having Arnie's physique.
Not one-on-one. Not even Arnold was able to win one-on-one.
I also have a problem with that yakuza guy in Predators killing a Predator in a sword fight.
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 09:29:45 AMMuscles are sort of important because the stronger the man, the more he attracts the Predator (for hunt, you perverts).
It would be a bit insulting if any random scrawny guy defeated an alien who specializes in hunting dangerous life forms.
Have you ever seen real-life special forces soldiers? The guys in the SAS don't look anything like Dutch, or even Royce. Physique has almost zero bearing on whether you're a badass or not.
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 09:29:45 AMHunting is what they do and you can't tell them not to quit their day job if they get killed by a nearly retired cop.
:laugh: I think you're getting Harrigan confused with Murtaugh, there :)
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 09:57:09 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 16, 2016, 09:52:23 AM
A human being is perfectly capable of being dangerous and challenging without having Arnie's physique.
Not one-on-one. Not even Arnold was able to win one-on-one.
Exactly the point.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 16, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
Exactly the point.
But Harrigan wins in a one-on-one fight, when he's neither strong, skilled or witty at all.
Though, to be fair, the Predator did apparently win and only get killed because Harrigan pretended he's down and used the moment to slice him, but that shouldn't have happened either.
Why? Cause Preds are unsuprisable? :D
They should be unbeatable when it comes to a one-on-one vs a human.
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 10:53:01 AMBut Harrigan wins in a one-on-one fight, when he's neither strong, skilled or witty at all.
Based on what? As I said, he seems pretty skilled when he flanks and annihilates all those Colombians at the start of the film. The police were screwed until he showed up and turned the tables. And just because he isn't some enormous muscle-bound caricature like Arnie, that doesn't mean he isn't strong. I refer you to my earlier point regarding real-life special forces guys.
Any member of real life special forces shouldn't pose a problem for a Predator in a hand to hand fight.
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 09:57:09 AM
I also have a problem with that yakuza guy in Predators killing a Predator in a sword fight.
Why is there a problem. The Yakuza guy probably had more sword training and hell, the technique he used was meant to kill his foe by leaving himself completely open. Something that a predator probably never thought about aside from blowing everyone up. As said by others, human beings are dangerous. Especially when armed and in a fair match. I see no problem.
This does harkin back to how Noland was blown away by Berserker(I think that was the one) on sight. He knew that Noland was too dangerous to be taken one on one. So he just blew him away and shrugged it off. :)
He just blew him away because those so-called Super Predators are just crazy. No honor, no sport. But then again, that other Predator fought in the sword fight. There's no consistency in that movie.
And by my vision of Predators, they should know how to handle themselves in a sword fight better than a human.
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 11:05:01 AMAny member of real life special forces shouldn't pose a problem for a Predator in a hand to hand fight.
But Harrigan wasn't fighting hand-to-hand. He had a Smart Disc. It doesn't really matter how beefy or scrawny you are if you're holding a machete.
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 11:10:24 AM
He just blew him away because those so-called Super Predators are just crazy. No honor, no sport. But then again, that other Predator fought in the sword fight. There's no consistency in that movie.
And by my vision of Predators, they should know how to handle themselves in a sword fight better than a human.
No. He blew him away out of fear. That's how I read that scene.
It was said in the moving that they come here to hone their skills. It's like evolution, they train to become better killers. The Predator lost in a suicide attack. Who was better is rendered mute. Hanzo committed himself to an attack which purposely left him completely open. An over confident foe will always take the bait, and thus, it's a draw.
Also Harrigan wasn't a slouch. There was some mean shit going on way before the Predator showed up. However, if anything, the Predators Achilles heal is it's sheer arrogance. That or it's a macho thing. :P
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 16, 2016, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: overthere on Mar 16, 2016, 11:05:01 AMAny member of real life special forces shouldn't pose a problem for a Predator in a hand to hand fight.
But Harrigan wasn't fighting hand-to-hand. He had a Smart Disc. It doesn't really matter how beefy or scrawny you are if you're holding a machete.
What HuDa said and as far as I remember Harrigan didn`t win. He was bested in one on one duel, yet Predator screwed the job being too cocky and overconfident.
Its a complete hollywood myth that bulk and big muscles make a better fighter or soldier. All that muscle requires a lot of oxygen and causes a person to gas rather quickly when being used. Royce is a much more realistic representation of an expert combat soldier.
You'll notice most MMA fighters and Boxers dont look like body builders a.k.a Arnold.
Quote from: 420Buddy on Mar 16, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Its a complete hollywood myth that bulk and big muscles make a better fighter or soldier. All that muscle requires a lot of oxygen and causes a person to gas rather quickly when being used. Royce is a much more realistic representation of an expert combat soldier.
You'll notice most MMA fighters and Boxers dont look like body builders a.k.a Arnold.
True. A very key thing about surviving a fight is breathing. As long as you are able to breathe properly and continuously, without inefficient movements, you should be able to have an advantage over somebody who is really muscle-bound. But one cannot deny the appeal of seeing a human in peak physical shape. Movies are still about suspension of belief, and the perception that Arnold in his prime would make a formidable opponent is very real.
I have a guy who looks just like Schwarzeneger in my fight class and it is obvious that he manages his breathing very well as he is just formidable to work against. I sometimes think he could work as a stunt double for Arnie because he even has a similar face. But in truth, I always find the small guys to be surprisingly tough. Firstly, they have a life-long over-compensation, and secondly, they can be very nimble..
Quote from: 420Buddy on Mar 16, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Its a complete hollywood myth that bulk and big muscles make a better fighter or soldier. All that muscle requires a lot of oxygen and causes a person to gas rather quickly when being used. Royce is a much more realistic representation of an expert combat soldier.
You'll notice most MMA fighters and Boxers dont look like body builders a.k.a Arnold.
That's not always the case. Look at Dolph Lungren and how jacked he is. When they filmed Rocky 4 he hit Stallone so hard in the chest he bruised his heart and almost killed him. Something that doctors only see happen in car accidents.
You're missing the point, overthere.
Just because someone is huge and beefy doesn't mean they are automatically a strong fighter.
Put Bruce Lee against someone like Brock Lesnar and Bruce Lee would have a decent chance, so long as he stays out of Brock's grip. It's not about strength but technique.
Also, big biceps don't mean hard punch, you need to KNOW how to punch and a scrawny ass shrimp can punch harder than a bullet. (It's called a Bullet Shrimp and it can punch much harder than Arnie)
Big muscles won't automatically make a Predator go for that person. It's skill, technique and so on. City Hunter didn't look and go "WOW, that guy driving that vehicle looks so beefy!" no, he looked at him use tactical thinking to go past the gang and ambush them and probably thought "DAMN, this guy's smart!"
Glover beat the Predator because he tricked him as you noticed, plus he had a smart disc, hell, YOU could kill a Predator if you tricked it and then sliced its belly with a smart disc... it really ain't that hard with such an insanely sharp tool.
As for Hanzo, well, Predator skin seems surprisingly vulnerable to cutting attacks as opposed to blunt force. Hence why they take explosions literally to the face and shrug it off but a slice makes them bleed. (Kind of how Kevlar body armour is able to stop a bullet but you can easily plunge a knife through as if it were a normal shirt) Hanzo used technique and must have struck an artery or something.
For example, if you slice a human's fermoral artery on the leg, without medical attention, they're going DOWN.
Predators are super strong, but they're realistic and believable. The big charm about this alien is the fact that despite being an intergalactic badass, it has weaknesses.
Think of Predators as big cats. A lion can break a man's neck with a swipe of its paw just like a Predator can most likely do seeing as they shred us to bits... but even we can take on a lion if we act quick and get lucky. And how do we often take on lions? With traps and tools... and how did we defeat all the Predators so far? With tools and traps! I haven't found a scenario where a human punched the ever living green shit out of a Predator with his bare hands yet.
Alright guys, I accept the fact muscles do not equal great and strong fighter. But what muscles represent is body mass. Predators are probably 200 - 250 kg (450 - 550 pounds). It's hard to challenge them on body mass alone. No matter how skillful a punch is of a master fighter, his mass is probably trivial compared to Predator's.
The only way to take out a Predator is with weapons or witty traps.Harrigan did use a pretty badass weapon, but he also managed to rival Predator during the fight and block/counter his attacks.
I just don't see anything special about Harrigan that made him worthy. Like that scene underground when Predator is done slaughtering everyone in the subway but runs away from Harrigan. Why not confront him there? He wanted to kill him just a little bit later in the meat factory, so it's not like he wasn't ready for him yet.
Arnie's punches were very trivial to the Predator, besides Arnie, no one else has actually punched a Predator because they've all resorted to tools or traps.
I think Harrigan used momentum, sometimes lighter fighters can use their opponents weight against them. Harrigan's smart disc likely reflected the Predator's blade and directed the force into another direction or something, it's been a while since I watched the fight. Or the Predator toyed with him like Anytime did with Dutch. That was both their mistakes, taking their sweet time and savouring the moment instead of acting now.
The whole movie showed the Predator was in a way seeing what Harrigan would do next (leaving Danny Boy's necklace for him to find it etc) and was in a way baiting him to chase the hunter to his hunting ground.
Besides, he also wanted to get that trophy out of the way, he's not risking losing his prize!
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Mar 16, 2016, 09:30:57 PMHarrigan's smart disc likely reflected the Predator's blade and directed the force into another direction or something, it's been a while since I watched the fight.
He uses the disc to parry the City Hunter's Wristblades.
Also, ol' Pussyface only has one arm at this point, lets not forget that.
I hope Predators learned by now not to be arrogant and overconfident to play around with a human they consider worthy. Fool me once - shame on you, fool me thrice - we suck at this killing humans for sport thing.
That would also serve as a little bit different ending to what we're used to by now for the endings. Something else is going on besides the main character figuring out a way to trick it, or at least on a larger scale than what we've seen so far.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Mar 16, 2016, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: The Alien Predator on Mar 16, 2016, 09:30:57 PMHarrigan's smart disc likely reflected the Predator's blade and directed the force into another direction or something, it's been a while since I watched the fight.
He uses the disc to parry the City Hunter's Wristblades.
Also, ol' Pussyface only has one arm at this point, lets not forget that.
And he's been shot like a dozen times point blank plus fell from a distance into a bathroom not long after his own bath in liquid nitrogen.. ;D
For a human in such weakened states, even squirrels will kick our asses.
I wish Gary Busey actually captured him. I hope they capture a Predator in the new movie and study him a bit before he breaks out from whatever he's locked in and wreaks havoc.
I hope Shane Black secures "Arnold" for this sequel ,now that it is not a " Reboot ". These Studios, have 'Reboot on their brain's . What next 'Reboot " CITIZEN KANE "..
It would be great to see Dutch return. A predator comes to the jungle 30 years later, and Anna contacts Dutch to say "It's happening again." He replies, "Get to the choppa!", or trains fighters to wear mud and ambush the predator. Only this time, the predator turns out not to be alone, and "all f**king hell is going to break loose". Or something like that.
There's probably going to be one Predator, judging from "The" in the title.
I was thinking, what if we steal a little bit from the early draft of Prometheus and make The Predator an emissary? Yea and we then hunt it, capture it, and kill it. In that order.
Nah.
Man, 2018. is far away. I need a steady dose of news about this movie, ASAP.
I always liked the idea of Dutch coming back. I liked the idea of Predators coming after him because he killed one of their own, like in PredatorS, "Every once in awhile one of us kills one of them, and that's when they 'really' get interesting."
Quote from: Number13 on Apr 05, 2016, 08:21:44 PM
I always liked the idea of Dutch coming back. I liked the idea of Predators coming after him because he killed one of their own, like in PredatorS, "Every once in awhile one of us kills one of them, and that's when they 'really' get interesting."
Good thinking
Quote from: overthere on Mar 19, 2016, 09:32:12 AM
Nah.
Man, 2018. is far away. I need a steady dose of news about this movie, ASAP.
What we need is a cryo-pod and set the wake up date to 2018. Then watch Alien: Covenant and read any books and comics that came out in that timespan while we wait the few months or weeks left until The Predator. ;D
They should just get the cast of The Expendables to take on the Predators in their home world already.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Apr 08, 2016, 02:00:31 AM
They should just get the cast of The Expendables to take on the Predators in their home world already.
Better yet, send the Broforce:
Although, there's a Predator on the team, so that could get awkward...
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2016, 02:33:23 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOAQ7t9JjY
Please for the love of God tell me that's an actual thing...!
It's a real game on Steam.
:laugh: Excellent.
You can't escape freedom!
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2016, 02:33:23 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOAQ7t9JjY
Please for the love of God tell me that's an actual thing...!
Oh you better believe it is. The character roster is
huge.
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2016, 04:24:03 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 08, 2016, 07:57:22 AM
Quote from: KiramidHead on Apr 08, 2016, 02:33:23 AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOAQ7t9JjY
Please for the love of God tell me that's an actual thing...!
Oh you better believe it is. The character roster is huge.
Wicked! I love how Ripley is a "Bro" too...
That game will make you a goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus!
...Just like me.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Apr 13, 2016, 12:05:32 PM
That game will make you a goddamn sexual Tyrannosaurus!
...Just like me.
Strap this on your sore ass! ;)
Danny Trejo should get another shot. I say bring him back and forget about Arnold.
Quote from: Ash 937 on Apr 18, 2016, 01:55:13 AM
Danny Trejo should get another shot. I say bring him back and forget about Arnold.
We already had a predator movie with drug cartels... you telling us you want another one? Yea the poor bastard is typecasted hard.
He could show up as Machete and knife-duel the Predator.
Arnold was just live broadcasting on facebook while he was training and was asked about being in The Predator. He said it depends on how good the script will be and that he hasn't met with Shane Black yet.
Edit: The Video is now on his Facebook, he actually doesn't mention that he hasn't met with Black yet, he just said that the script has to be good and that he thinks that Shane Black will be directing the next one, and that it will end up being good.
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Farnold%2Fvideos%2F10153993974941760%2F&show_text=0&width=560
Around 5 or 6 minutes into the video.
Thanks for sharing, Johnny.
The only way I would be interested in Dutch coming back at this stage is if he was a very high ranking officer and takes it upon himself to be an overseer of a team setting out to confront the Predator. No crazy post trauma dude or any of that.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7JHfZgN3wk8/maxresdefault.jpg)
I'd prefer he didn't actually get his hands dirty, and MAYBE if he has to die, he goes down like that badass russian guy in the news the other day who calls in an airstrike on himself... Dutch is in his command centre when the predator corners him, he nonchalantly gets in the predator's grill and reveals he already called in the strike and blows them both up... but then the predator rises from the debris to hunt whoever is left.
Come with me if you want to lift!
"I would love to do another Predator...if the script is good. Shane Black is doing the script, I believe it will be good..."
Math is adding up.
Dutch!!!
How do you come to that conclusion?
All he said was, "I'd be game."
Not, "I'm going to be in it." Not even, "I've spoken to someone involved." All he said was he'd be interested. And considering how many other 80s film stars have been trying desperately to recapture their glory days over the last few years, who can blame him.
I'm certain Arnold is going to be in this. Mark my words.
Maybe he will, but it certainly doesn't sound like it's been arranged thus far.
The wheels are in motion. Once they actually meet and discuss it, I'm sure he'll accept the role.
I really don't believe it's Arnold's choice.
His sole vendor these days are his most popular roles in famous franchises, otherwise it doesn't look that good for Arnold at the moment, with most of his comeback movies bombing hard, and he's very aware of this fact.
Arnold was and will always be a professional businessman, and being in another Predator will only bring benefits to him, either way you cut it.
If Shane wants Arnold, he gets Arnold. If he doesn't end up in the movie, it's because they didn't ask him.
Hey guys. Just wanted to share an article I wrote highlighting 5 possible scenarios where Arnold could return as Dutch in The Predator. I'm all for his return, even it were to be a smaller cameo role.
I've listed a variety of possibilities, I'd love to hear what you guys think and/or what other possible scenarios you could come up with.
Here's a link to the post: https://www.scified.com/news/5-ways-arnold-schwarzenegger-could-return-as-dutch-in-shane-blacks-predator-4
Merged with existing Arnold topic.
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The CIA obviously has these guys pushing too many pencils..