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Alright, so here's something a lot of us already know: the Alien franchise does not have a particularly strong history with tabletop gaming. In many ways the opposite of it's videogame history, the games have generally been great, but short-lived, quickly forgotten, and few and far-between. There have only been, to me knowledge, 6 tabletop games based on the franchise in over 30 years - 2 of which were aimed at children, and made to tie in to the original movie release, and the unreleased Operation: Aliens cartoon show, respectively. Of the other 4, we had one miniatures game (the AVP Horrorclix releases, limited though they were), one Role-playing game (Leading Edge games' notoriously difficult to track down book), one Board game (Also from Leading Edge, and even harder to procure), and one Collectible Card Game (The legendary Aliens/Predator CCG, cut down before it's time).

But now, a decade since the Horrorclix box sets were released (and a decade before that since the CCG), the recent tabletop gaming revolution is finally paying the Alien franchise a visit.

Legendary is a Deck-building game (a new format of card game that has been taking the gaming world by storm since its' introduction in 2008) based on the Marvel Comics license. Players start with a deck of weak cards representing SHIELD Agents and recruit super-heroes like Captain America, Wolverine, Spider-Man, and Deadpool into their deck in order to be able to take on all manner of villains before they destroy the city. It's a cooperative-style game, with all the players working together against the game's built-in AI running the villains, and as someone who's not all that big of a Marvel fan, let me tell you, it's a ton of fun. I have a weekly board game group that meets and since it released last year, we've played Legendary at least 30 or 40 times.

Now, Upper Deck is releasing a new core set for Legendary with some tweaks to the core game mechanics to make it fit it's new license - ALIEN. I know this won't mean as much to everybody as it does to me, but this is a pretty huge deal. Tabletop gaming has been making a huge comeback over the last couple of years (mostly due to the inevitable social backlash against WoW and similar MMO-games), and to now see Alien in the ring with a game based on one of the most popular and successful engines on the market right now is truly exciting. Here's the press release for the game:

Quote from: Upper DeckLegendary Encounters: An Alien Deck Building Game is a fully cooperative game with original art. While based on the Marvel superheroes version of Legendary, the two games will be compatible but cannot be fully integrated.

Legendary Encounters is a deck-building game in the same family as Legendary, but now players must cooperate in order to survive against hordes of aliens. Players take turns recruiting cards for their deck from a central selection in order to improve their deck and defeat enemy cards that are added to the central game board.

I've always loved card games, have done from a young age. I currently only play Magic (and not very well) but over the years I've enjoyed others. I even have a near complete collection of the premiere set for the Aliens Predator CCG and about 4 starter decks but I've never had the chance to play.

I'm really curious about this and will probably purchase. I've never played any of the new deck building games though. I understand you get everything you need from the box and there are no boosters or additional cards or etc?

Not too sure about it not being competitive play though... :-\

Have you played many of these DBGs?

I've played well over a dozen deck-building games (Thunderstone, Nightfall, Core Worlds, Legendary, Quarriors, and the Star Trek, Lord of the Rings, Resident Evil, and DC Comics games spring immediately to mind), and I think it's a wonderful model. You're correct in that everything you need is in the box, no boosters or anything (although the successful ones get expansion sets from time to time).

Essentially the way they tend to work is you start out with a small deck (usually 10 or 12 cards) that are all very low powered, but give you a little bit of whatever resources the game uses. You use those resources to buy other cards from a common pool, and those go straight to your discard pile. You play every card in your hand each turn, and redraw a new hand, so you cycle through your deck very quickly, and as you run out of cards to draw, you simply reshuffle (including the awesome new cards you've bought) and draw a new hand. Because of this, a large part of the game is in the actual deck-building process, trying to grab good cards that combo off of each other, and weed out starter cards, and cards that aren't working with your strategy.

There are a number of them that are competitive (the Star Trek Deck-Building Game and Core Worlds probably being my two favorites), but the cooperative mechanic works really well, especially in Legendary. In the Marvel version, you've got a number of different "Masterminds", which are your big bad that you're trying to defeat (Magneto, Doom, Red Skull, etc.) and a bunch of "scheme" cards, which define the parameters of the scenario (is the mastermind trying to steal a shipment of weaponized plutonium? Unleash the Legacy Virus? Open portals to the Dark dimension? Replace Earth's leaders with killbots?). There's a ton of different combinations of Mastermind and scheme cards to add to replayability, and it only gets crazier when you add in the fact that the lesser villains that show up in the villain deck will be different each time as well. Even though it's a complete game in a box, you get a lot of the "never the same game twice" factor that makes CCGs so appealing.

So this means I can now have Aliens and Predators fighting against Marvel's superheroes in the Legendary game? I mean they did say it was compatible but then that's what they said with HorrorClix and HeroClix.

-Rakai'Thwei

So no playable Aliens?

*John Hammond's voice*

DAMN!

Quote from: Mr. Runner on Oct 10, 2013, 12:04:37 AM
So no playable Aliens?

*John Hammond's voice*

DAMN!

Totally heard it in his voice too.

I'm excited. I play Magic weekly so it will be cool to try something new. And if this is co-op, then my gf should enjoy it too. She likes playing against me, but much prefers to play with me.

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Oct 09, 2013, 06:49:37 PM
So this means I can now have Aliens and Predators fighting against Marvel's superheroes in the Legendary game? I mean they did say it was compatible but then that's what they said with HorrorClix and HeroClix.

-Rakai'Thwei

Horror and HeroClix were never actually intended to be compatible (although it ended up not being hard to run the conversion - Alien Hive vs. Green Lantern Corps is still one of the most fun games I ever played) - these will likely be much like the DC and Lord of the Rings deck-building games - built on the same engine and fully compatible, but with different card backs and different terms, so you're really only a bunch of opaque card sleeves away from having Avengers vs. Aliens.

Quote from: Mr. Domino on Oct 10, 2013, 03:58:04 AM
Horror and HeroClix were never actually intended to be compatible (although it ended up not being hard to run the conversion - Alien Hive vs. Green Lantern Corps is still one of the most fun games I ever played) - these will likely be much like the DC and Lord of the Rings deck-building games - built on the same engine and fully compatible, but with different card backs and different terms, so you're really only a bunch of opaque card sleeves away from having Avengers vs. Aliens.

Mind sending me that campaign scenario for Green Lantern vs Aliens for the Clix games?

And really? So Marvel vs Aliens would likely be compatible with this? I can kill Superheroes with the Alien/Predator cards?! Shit, I am getting this deck even if I have no one to play with! Heh heh heh!

-Rakai'Thwei

Quite excited for this release. I'm one of those guys who was disappointed when the new Star Wars game was changed from co-op to competitive in development, so this'll suit me and my son to a T; it's easier to get the youngsters to want to learn a game when they're not simultaneously trying to defend themselves from the teacher!

I don't think this game's title is doing it any favours, though. 'Legendary Encounters: an Alien card game'? Wouldn't 'Alien: a Legendary card game' be better? I worry about brand confusion scaring off the casual gamers. Ah, well... as long as I get a copy.

For the record, there's no mention of any predators being involved. And I, personally, really hope there won't be.

Mr. Domino, does Legendary make use of any sort of movement/locations, or do all the cards just sit on the table and duke it out, like Star Wars?

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Oct 10, 2013, 05:22:14 AM
Mind sending me that campaign scenario for Green Lantern vs Aliens for the Clix games?

The way I ran it was essentially just each side plays by the rules of their respective game - all the Aliens, in HeroClix terms, automatically have Willpower, since there's no pushing damage in Horrorclix, but they still become vulnerable, so, in Heroclix terms, all the Green Lanterns essentially gain Penetrating Shot and Exploit Weakness against an alien with 2 action counters. You still put out Victim tokens, and the GLs count as Protectors (or whatever the Horrorclix term was for Good Guys), so they can rescue the victim tokens, but they don't get any benefit from doing so, aside from denying the Aliens. The Alien player also still gets a hand of plot twist cards, just as the GL player has access to any feats they want to use.

When I played it, we did 1000 pts. on each side - the full GLCorps box set with Ganthet, Katma Tui, Tomar Re, Ch'p, Gnort, Arisia, and Abin Sur, along with Kiliwog, Hal Jordan, Jon Stewart, and Kyle Rayner from outside of the box set. The Alien side had the complete Alien box set, along with the fully upgraded Queen and Egg Sac attachment. It was glorious fun. The Aliens made short work of most of the GLs, but then Ganthet strode in and started disintegrating the bugs at long range. In the end, it came down to a battle of wills between Ganthet and the Queen, and, well, in brightest day, in blackest night, no xenomorph will leave this fight.

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 10, 2013, 02:03:04 PM
I don't think this game's title is doing it any favours, though. 'Legendary Encounters: an Alien card game'? Wouldn't 'Alien: a Legendary card game' be better? I worry about brand confusion scaring off the casual gamers. Ah, well... as long as I get a copy.

For the record, there's no mention of any predators being involved. And I, personally, really hope there won't be.

The reason for the title is because Upper Deck has already secured the rights to the Predator and Firefly franchises to use in future deck-builders. From what I understand, the idea is for those to be standalone sets, but that can also be mixed together if the players so choose. So after a while, you'll have Legendary, which is a blanket name for Comic book properties using the Legendary engine, and Legendary Encounters, which is the same thing for Film/TV licenses.

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Oct 10, 2013, 02:03:04 PM
Mr. Domino, does Legendary make use of any sort of movement/locations, or do all the cards just sit on the table and duke it out, like Star Wars?

Neither entirely. In Marvel Legendary, there are five locations in "The City". As a Villain comes out from the Villain deck, he enters "The Sewers". If another Villain comes out before he's defeated, that villain will enter "The Sewers", and the first Villain will be pushed into "The Bank" - and so on into "The Rooftops", "The Streets", and "The Bridge". If the city is ever entirely full (which will generally happen quite often - it's extremely difficult to keep the villain population in check, especially early-game), and another villain comes out of the villain deck, then the villain in "The Bridge" will be pushed into the "Escaped Villains" stack, and the players take some penalties, often dependent upon the scenario. There's no movement on the player side - you simply play down your heroes, spend your recuitment points on more cards into your discard pile, and if you have enough attack points, taking out a villain card from one of the City locations.

Read about the deck-building concept. Not sure I understand it perfectly, but I have always loved card games. Started with Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh, though I haven't played much in recent years.

Depending on the price, I'll definitely try and pick it up as soon as I can.

Huh, this is pretty unexpected. I'll likely buy a bunch of packs/decks of this, if the art and gameplay are cool. I've still got a shitton of the Aliens/Predator (and Terminator) CCG cards.

Part of the nice thing about this is that it's all in one box! The only add-on you need is card sleeves, unless you're one of those awful heathens who plays cards unsleeved.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 11, 2013, 03:40:03 AM
I've still got a shitton of the Aliens/Predator (and Terminator) CCG cards.

Now those are definitely compatible, from what I remember!

The company which made those cards made some kind of systems and scenario for that to occur!

-Rakai'Thwei

Yep, the Aliens/Predator and Terminator cards were designed to be compatible from a gameplay standpoint. :)

I have the entire premiere and Alien: Resurrection CCG cards, except one - Small Arms from the premiere set.

Happy to pay someone for a single card. Was a promo card not in the regular packs.

Used to play the game all the time, had very kick ass decks, especially a tough Marines deck to play against both aliens and predators.

Between this and the other thread, it's seeming more and more like I can flog off all my TTG stuff. Who needs Spess Mahreins or Pokemans when I can have Aliens, Aliens and more Aliens?

Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Oct 28, 2013, 11:26:56 PM
Between this and the other thread, it's seeming more and more like I can flog off all my TTG stuff. Who needs Spess Mahreins or Pokemans when I can have Aliens, Aliens and more Aliens?

Indeed good sir. Indeed.

I still have a very large WH40k Necron force - I like the minis enough that I'm in no hurry to get rid of them.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 30, 2013, 04:09:37 AM
I still have a very large WH40k Necron force - I like the minis enough that I'm in no hurry to get rid of them.

I still have a small Tyranid force. Probably gonna hang on to them since their new codex is just around the corner.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 30, 2013, 04:09:37 AM
I still have a very large WH40k Necron force - I like the minis enough that I'm in no hurry to get rid of them.

TBH, I'll never get rid of my Necrons. I may not like what they've become, but they were the first full-sized army I ever painted completely, and they have a special place in my heart. Plus, I love the glowy green bitz. ;)

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of the green bitz. :P

At first I didn't really like how their new codex rebooted their backstory, but the more I thought about it the more I was okay with the changes.

I feel like popularity has diminished on this since Prodos announced their upcoming game and started their Kickstarter. Has anyone heard any more about this new card game?

Not a whisper. I wouldn't get worried though, it was only announced, what, a month ago?

Upper Deck is going to have a booth at BGG.CON next week - hopefully they'll have something to share about the game then. I'll be on hand, and shall bring back pictures and/or relevant info, if any is to be had.

Nice.

Quote from: [CANCERBLACK] on Nov 14, 2013, 12:52:31 AM
Not a whisper. I wouldn't get worried though, it was only announced, what, a month ago?

Not worried, just curious :)

Quote from: Mr. Domino on Nov 14, 2013, 05:01:04 AM
Upper Deck is going to have a booth at BGG.CON next week - hopefully they'll have something to share about the game then. I'll be on hand, and shall bring back pictures and/or relevant info, if any is to be had.

Very cool! Thank you in advance!

Quote from: Mr. Domino on Nov 14, 2013, 05:01:04 AM
Upper Deck is going to have a booth at BGG.CON next week - hopefully they'll have something to share about the game then. I'll be on hand, and shall bring back pictures and/or relevant info, if any is to be had.

If they have any promo cards or anything cool, make sure to get enough for all of us.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 15, 2013, 05:16:48 AM

Quote from: Mr. Domino on Nov 14, 2013, 05:01:04 AM
Upper Deck is going to have a booth at BGG.CON next week - hopefully they'll have something to share about the game then. I'll be on hand, and shall bring back pictures and/or relevant info, if any is to be had.

If they have any promo cards or anything cool, make sure to get enough for all of us.

And mail them to the land(s) down under.

Actually I think he should do it right and hand-deliver them.

Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 15, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
Actually I think he should do it right and hand-deliver them.

Now that's commitment

Well, sadly, Upper Deck's booth at BGG.CON isn't run by anyone who knows much of anything about the upcoming game. They did have this hanging up on the wall, though, and one of the guys there thought that the plan was to do an early release at GenCon, with the retail rollout a couple of weeks later, which fits with the August release date.

Here's some stuff I noticed from over at BGG from an apparent Upper Deck employee:

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Quote from: ijthompsonDon't forget Lambert! I admit, if I don't get the whole crew of the Nostromo, I'm gonna pout a little. Maybe they could even find a way to work Jones in there somewhere! :laugh:

Jonsey is a bad ass feline that does not dissapoint.  He will make an appearance.

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Quote from: edkofuzzCount me in among the group of people excited for this game! I am holding back on the Marvel one just to get this one. Can never get enough stuff from the Alien universe!

Me too, but the art will be the decider.  I thought the M:L art was god-awful.

This art will probably be worse. It's a lot harder to translate movies to four colour printing style than comics.

Graphically, nothing would please me short of actual film stills (like Decipher did with Star Wars and LotR). I am guessing the chance of that is nil.

I would kill for a good aliens game of any kind, but I don't see the legendary mechanics fitting the IP well. This screams money grab.

To be clear, this is not the Marvel Legendary engine.  I have been very transparent in every interview that I get asked about this game.  I have stated several times that the ALIEN universe does not fit the ML engine and that I WILL NEVER crowbar something in where it does not belong.

That said, the ML engine was ripped apart and rebuilt so that the parts that worked with ALIEN remained and everything else(which is a Sh*t ton) was rebuilt to capture the flavor of the ALIEN universe. 

"Money Grab" is an insult to the year of development time that has been put into this game so far. 

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To be clear, this is not the Marvel Legendary engine.  I have been very transparent in every interview that I get asked about this game.  I have stated several times that the ALIEN universe does not fit the ML engine and that I WILL NEVER crowbar something in where it does not belong.

That said, the ML engine was ripped apart and rebuilt so that the parts that worked with ALIEN remained and everything else(which is a Sh*t ton) was rebuilt to capture the flavor of the ALIEN universe. 

"Money Grab" is an insult to the year of development time that has been put into this game so far. 

If it's not the Legendary engine, then why name it Legendary? Besides the obvious answer.

It is Called "Legendary Encounters: An ALIEN Deck Building Game"...  It is compatible with Marvel not interchangeable.  Simply calling it "Legendary" would have been misleading.

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It is Called "Legendary Encounters: An ALIEN Deck Building Game"...  It is compatible with Marvel not interchangeable.  Simply calling it "Legendary" would have been misleading.

What connection does the word Legendary have to the Aliens IP?

What does "compatible, not interchangeable" mean?

Ok, here is what has been stated prior but I will tie it all up here for you.

Legendary Encounters: An Alien Deck Building Game is a DBG based on some of the core concepts found in the Marvel version.  It is NOT the same game.

Compatible Vs. Interchangeable simply means that you can have characters guest star in either game since we took measures to allow for some crossover.  Since the game play is different, LE does not use schemes or masterminds nor does it have the same board, the components from both cannot be called interchangeable.

"What connection does the word Legendary have to the Aliens IP?" - I don't think this question has any relevance as we made the name up from scratch for Marvel. IT is relevant from a business perspective to allow people to get a grasp of what type of game this will be.

Again, I have stated publicly several times on camera as well as in magazine articles that this is a different game from Marvel and should be viewed as such.  There are similarities between the two but because the universes are so different, the game had to be redesigned to accommodate those differences.   

Sorry, I should have been cross-posting those here as they happened (although I hadn't seen the last one yet). Between this, Warhammer 40K: Conquest, Doomtown Reloaded, D&D Attack Wing, and of course the formal release of D&D Next, this is gonna be a really interesting GenCon. Wish I could go.

That person sounds... more than a little defensive.

Also, I hate being quoted as saying 'Jones', and then being corrected with 'Jonesey'. That cat's name is Jones, dammit! Read the credits!  >:(

Apparently all art in this game is going to be original with no screen grabs. And the first example -

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Just saw this a couple minutes ago on bgg - really glad they're going with this style of illustration. Should look fairly naturalistic for both the characters and the aliens. Hopefully they keep it consistent across all the cards - it'd be great to have Parker, Apone, and Vriess working together and not looking out-of-place next to each other.

Oh just imagine if they had Dan Beauvis, Dorman or Swanland doing some art?  ;D

Don't have a scanner available, but these photos should be readable - just got the new Meeple Monthly in, which has a 2 1/2 page article on the game with some info and several new images:

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Any chance you could retake the 2nd picture? It's very hard to read and I'd love to get it up on the first page.

It sounds really interesting. I'm really curious to try out this co-op engine!!!And the art looks so lovely too.

AVP Alien in my A L I E N?

Go die in a hole.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/104744/legendary-enccounters-rulebook (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/104744/legendary-enccounters-rulebook)

The rules have been uploaded. I haven't read them yet but will do shortly.

I read the basic rules. It's sort of hard to get the feel for it, without being able to see the cards (the cards are where the action is, after all).

It seems that John Hurt and H. D. Stanton didn't allow their likenesses to be used - there doesn't seem to be a Kane or Brett in the game. Bummer.

Some of that art looks pretty dodgy (I'm knee-deep in Fantasy Flight games right now, so the bar is set pretty high). Still, the game could be fun. I really like the impregnation/chestbursting mechanic - you don't know when you're gonna pop! I also like that players can be eliminated from the game, though some will obviously hate that...

I don't think it's necessarily a case of anyone not allowing their likeness to be used, and more that they only wanted to have 16 character decks (the same as with the Marvel game), and with 4 different Ripleys, that leaves only 3 other slots per movie.

I had no trouble with the rules as written, but I've also played the Marvel game extensively.

The art...I feel you. It's a definite stylistic choice, though, and I like that it seems to be fairly consistent. I also like that it is actual art rather than photos. That said, though, I'd definitely rather art more in the style of Dorman/Beauvais/Bolton, or any of the other classic Alien artists.

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Ah, I getcha. I have no experience with the Marvel game, so the rulebook is a little bewildering. That's not a strike against the game though, I just need to have the cards in hand to get the gyst of it.

I'd actually have been fine with screencaps from the films (like in the AvP game), but I get that that would limit them quite a bit.

Still, I'm definitely gonna buy it. I'm delighted they were able to work in all four movies!

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http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1213326/lert-dying-never-felt-so-good (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1213326/lert-dying-never-felt-so-good)

Some more artwork has just been posted up on BGG. It's due out next week apparently.

QuoteI played yesterday. It's HARD! Of course part of that was from never playing before, and part from a bad shuffle of the hive deck (we got 4 eggs in a row). In any case, we weren't able to keep the complex clear, the combat zone soon had several xenos in it, and we were taking multiple strikes per turn. The medic's power (as with all the role powers) is only one card, so she wasn't able to keep up, and we all died. Three from strikes and one from a chestburster. We weren't even close to completing the mission.

I'm itching to play it again, and will buy it today if I can fit it in my bag.

Reaction from GenCon. It's available to purchase now at GenCon, available for public next week.

Sounds like it's playing exactly as it ought to.

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Looks like a laugh. Can't wait to get it.

They coulda tried a little harder with that box!

Looks like fun, though. :)

Actually, most deck-building games leave lots of extra space like that. It allows you to both sleeve the cards, and put later expansions in the box.

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Quote from: Mr. Domino on Aug 16, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
Actually, most deck-building games leave lots of extra space like that. It allows you to both sleeve the cards, and put later expansions in the box.

Oh, I didn't know that - I was expecting a formed plastic tray.

So I guess some of those hard plastic card cases would fit pretty nicely in there?

Haven't tried it. Sleeved cards are reasonably snug in there, though, so I wouldn't imagine that would be the case. The game comes with a bunch of dividers, which is how I have mine set up, and you could probably use some of the thinner plastic deck boxes that Ultra Pro makes as well.

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Another quick review from BGG:

QuoteSo I played the win a box "tournament" at GenCon.

The game is quite good but it is very challenging. It reminds me of the brutality of The Lord of the Rings (lcg FFG). It's very white knuckled, skin of teeth in terms of winning.

As far as being different from Lengedary (original Marvel):
1. Scanning. The hive deck pumps out cards face down in this game. You can't fight or interact with a face down card. So you need to spend attack to scan (flip a card over). The scan cost depends on how close to the hive it is.

This adds the thematic horror of not knowing what is creeping up on you.

2. Avatars (characters). The characters really do not differ that much (they are keyed to the different symbols) as they only get one unique class card in your starting deck. The class cards are pretty useful though.

3. Strikes (replaced wounds). The strikes are quite fun as they are deadly. The aliens attack your avatar and if your collected damage equals thier health rating-- they die. Strikes stay out of your decks next to the avatar.


The cards!

The 600 cards are all mixed together in seemingly random packs. This was frustrating to seperate.
Tip: there are small mission names on the bottom of most cards- seperate according to that. If their isn't small mission text on the bottom- then seperate by title subset.

I bought 600 ultra pro premium sleeves. They are too tight and bend the cards. Be careful here. If someone knows what sleeves to use, I'd appreciate it.

Yeesh. Comparing it to the Lord of the Rings LCG is hogh praise for it's difficulty. That game has some of the most bone-crushingly difficult content I've ever played (I still have yet to put so much as a dent in the Balrog in all the times I've tried).

Really can't wait for Wednesday.

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Seems to be showing up quite a lot in the states. Really wish it was out over here.

Thinking about getting this sometime soon. Would love to hear any info from people that have gotten and/or played it.  ;D

It's already out? Oh shit, I just moved to the country-side. No game stores out here. Can anyone recommend where to order this from?

Amazon will have it in a couple of days.

Ordered from cheapest price on eBay. Just shy of $50. Can't wait to play!

Was gonna go get a copy tonight (in Canada), but I've just gotten off a plane and I'm beat. Will have one in the morning! :)

The wait is killing me.  :-\

Keep seeing complaints about missing cards in the boxes but UDE seem pretty good at sending replacements.

Mine didn't have any missing cards - although I thought it might, qs there were 50 proxy cards included in the box with card backs on both sides.

I've only gotten the chance to play once, and lost, but overall, I think I'd put the difficulty more in line with a game like Pandemic than the Lord of the Rings LCG. Which is to say, it's consistently beatable if you've got a group that knows what they're doing and you don't get screwed over on hive draws. A lot of fun, though, and oozing with theme.

I've now got mine, and have had a solo play-through. First up, I'm missing two cards: one Grunt, and one of the Hive cards from ALIEN's Objective #2 (I don't know which one, naturally). Inexcusable.

BUT, the game is fun. I really like how the excitement ramps up as you complete Objectives. I played the ALIEN scenario, and actually had a fairly easy time of it until Objective #3, when the self-destruct was set and the Perfect Organism was in my face; I'd have Parker use the shock tube to zap him back down the complex, but those Event cards would bring him right back into my face again. I didn't get the chance to be blown up in the explosion, but at least I know I took that sucker down with me. :)

A note about solo play: I see that if you encounter Ash, you can't kill him unless another player Coordinates with you. So unless I'm missing something, if you draw him in a solo game, you're doomed.

Some of the art is pretty embarrassing, but you get over that pretty quickly. I think my favourite art is MU-TH-UR's Advice (I might have that name wrong).

I'm annoyed that the Jones card is called 'Jonesy'. THE. CAT'S. NAME. IS. JONES. That's a pet-peeve of mine. I'd start a thread about it here somewhere, but I'd probably be attacked.  :P

All in all a very fun game, and I look forward to playing it with others.

Overall, I like the art.

Definitely get in touch with Upper Deck about those missing cards. From what I hear, they've been doing a good job so far fixing the missing cards problem for people.

Also, it was confirmed by one of the developers on the BGG forums that Ash is unkillable in solo play.

Played another solo game, and it was even more fun than the first. It was pretty smooth sailing (I survived the self-destruct... twice!), 'til I was 1 Attack shy of blowing the Perfect Organism out the Airlock. He then waltzed into the Combat Zone, where he and Ash (who was already there) proceeded to tear me apart.  :'(

This game does a great job of feeling like a story, which is the mark of a great game, in my opinion. I'm getting hooked, and I haven't even tried playing the other three films yet!

Now I just gotta get on Upper Deck about those missing cards...

Played Alien 3 a few minutes ago with 3 players. Worked really well. The runners at the beginning evoke the feel of the old Alien3 SNES game to me for some reason, as does the mechanic of searching for the missing convicts. Michael Weyland showing up at the end and trying to infect everyone is...problematic, especially when "the beast" is so dang tough to kill (these are both good things).

Got my copy over the weekend and it had no missing cards thankfully. It was also fairly easy to sort despite what some people have said. There are only a few that you have to pay attention to the keywords at the bottom to make sure they go in the right spot.

I played through the first and second films with a group of three and four respectively. Like the others have said it does a good job of building up the excitement like a story and going through the objectives and having the characters makes it feel like the movies. The only times it doesn't is the use of the "generic" soldiers and fighting the "generic" aliens but they have some cool abilities so it is no big deal.

We were progressing pretty well both games until getting to the end of objective 3 when we got overrun by large enemies. The game does a good job of increasing the enemy power towards the end. Hopefully the next time we can come out on top!

Some more videos - haven't watched them yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuDlzZFWa0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuDlzZFWa0#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SURnnoU8JjI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SURnnoU8JjI#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-Eq1TqWo0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-Eq1TqWo0#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfh_qWCe4QI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfh_qWCe4QI#ws)

So I've watched the first 2 videos and I really love the looks of it. Surprised you can just throw away cards (is that right, Domino?) but I'm getting the idea behind the deck building nature of the game. Really wish my FLGS would get this in ASAP. I like to support them but I really really want to buy this so tempted to get online.

Yeah, "trashing" cards is a common mechanic to all deckbuilders. The basic idea is you start off with a deck of borderline useless cards whose main function is to allow you to buy better cards into your discard pile. As the game progresses, you're wanting to make sure you have the best five or six card hand (depending on the game you're playing - Legendary is six) possible, which means getting rid of those basic cards through various means. Different games have different ways of doing this (the Star Trek deckbuilder has you "upgrading" cards, trashing red shirts to gain more experiences officers, whereas this one just has your basic marines get "killed" like the cheap fodder they are), and sometimes you may even want to get rid of some of the cards you've bought, depending on the strategy you're going for. For instance, I'm notorious in my game group for always trying to get down to a "perfect" five or six card deck, where I'm always drawing the same cards every turn (sometimes at the expense of actually winning the game lol).

Don't you find that sameness dull?

It can be. Certain deckbuilders (the DC and Lord of the Rings offerings from Cryptozoic spring immediately to mind, as they're the same game with a different theme pasted on) take a fairly lazy approach to the genre, just copying and pasting what others have done before. Others (Core Worlds, Pathfinder, Legendary Encounters) take the core mechanics and make something new with them.

In essence, having a trash mechanic in multiple deckbuilders doesn't cause sameness any more than (almost) always having to play down cards as resources in TCGs. Some games take a lazy approach to it, and are basically just Magic clones, while others do something innovative with it.

I was thinking more of your strategy. Doesn't that get boring?

Eh, I have an obsessive-compulsive personality. Doesn't get any duller than buying the 43rd action figure of an alien. But, that's not to say that I do that every single time in every single game. Just that it's a prevailing theme with me.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 02, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
Some more videos - haven't watched them yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuDlzZFWa0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuDlzZFWa0#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SURnnoU8JjI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SURnnoU8JjI#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-Eq1TqWo0#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG-Eq1TqWo0#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfh_qWCe4QI#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfh_qWCe4QI#ws)

I watched the first 10 minutes of the first vid.

I don't have the faintest idea what the f**k that guy was talking about.

As in the mechanics of the game?

The mechanics are a breeze to learn. My 14 year-old son went from knowing nothing about it (and not really caring) to getting totally swept up in the excitement. It's one that anyone can learn through playing.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 04, 2014, 07:19:02 AM
As in the mechanics of the game?

He might as well have been speaking Zulu.

Except I know one word of Zulu.

But CCGs have always baffled me.

I remember playing Magic The Gathering wayyyy back when it was new (and I was in, like, elementary school) and the old Star Wars CCG which was a lot of fun, but I haven't played anything since then.

This isn't like a CCG.  I haven't played it, only watched the videos and read the rules so I'm trying how to best describe it...

You build your desk as you go on. You have cards that have "recruit" values that let you pick new characters from the HQ if you have enough points for them. You have other cards that deal damage instead. You're able to combo cards based on traits and etc.

Whatever - CCG, deck building, there's cards of characters, and places and events and makes me go like Marlin in Finding Nemo trying to understand the little turtle.

Got the opportunity last weekend to play with my cousins (14 and 18 yr old) and we had fun. It's a game that can be a struggle the first time you play. No where in the rules booklet does it talk about how to recruit or fight. That is, what you do with the physical cards.

It would have been nice for them to specifically say "Keep your 13 card deck in front of you on the table but not on the playmat as there are no spaces for your specific deck. When you fight or recruit, you discard your cards into a discard pile that should be kept face up next to your specific deck." Arguably, for new players, this is the second biggest hurdle when your new to the game and playing alone or with other newbies, right next to the nightmare of sorting the cards after first opening the box.

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For those who have played, a rule clarification please. Certain cards have the Weyland-Yutani symbol in the text with an ability next to it. I know the symbol corresponds to the Alien deck's character cards, but the ability itself is triggered when you play the card but only if you played a character card already that turn (or 2, in some cases) correct? Same for class abilities right? Thanks.

You're absolutely correct on that rule, PRJ. As to the things not in the rulebook, I can't really speak to that, since I played the Marvel version first, and watched videos, so the rulebook for me was just filling in the gaps.

If I only had the pleasure of playing the Marvel one first I probably wouldn't of had such a tough time but it all makes sense now. And thanks for clarifying. I don't think there's any other confusing items at this time. Anything you can think of?

Watch some of the play through videos I posted earlier. It's how I've picked up most of the rules.

Already did Hicks! Actually had the greatest game even tho we lost in the end. Got facehugged and had to shuffle the chestburster into the deck. My fiancé played the card that let's you look at the top card of my deck and kill it. Guess what card it was...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07lZncIe5zM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07lZncIe5zM#ws)

Some more videos for the Aliens scenario. I've ordered the game from Beer and Pizza Games - seems to be the only place in the UK that is selling. None of my FLGS have got it in and I got too impatient. Really looking forward to getting my hands on it. Watching play videos on YouTube can only sustain me for so long.

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My copy has been shipped!  ;D

I got my copy yesterday!!  ;D Considering the reports of missing cards, I'm pretty chuffed to find I'm only missing a single objective card - Obj 3 for Alien Res. Can someone post up what the card text is whilst I wait for a replacement?

I played 2 games of Alien with some friends -there were 3 of us and I found the difficulty ramped up a bit. For the first game was followed the suggestion of the rulebook for a first playthrough. The 3rd hazard took me and another player out in our first playthrough and then the Aliens got the last player. We immediately reset for another go. I love all the different avatars: it wasn't as clear-cut as I thought it was going to be.

We changed roles for the next playthrough, going for medic, recon and synthetic. We managed to make it through to the final objective on that go but ultimately the Aliens swarmed up because we weren't always buying the right cards from the HQ. But we loved it!

I played a game of Alien 3 when I got home - because I haven't seen anyone playing it on the videos - and thoroughly enjoyed the scenario. I had medic and mercenary out and really loved the merc. It was another fun one. Lots of friends are interested in playing so I'm hoping to get more table time in and do a review. But I recommend picking this up!

Just thought I'd mention that on Sunday night my housemate and I did the trilogy, one after the other and managed to beat them all. Took some effort and coordination but we did it. Then Monday morning, it took us 3 goes to beat Alien Resurrection. And I barely even did anything xD I died in Obj2, after having an unfortunate chain of strikes xD

I absolutely love this game. xD

I played a three player game with resurrection and lost pretty bad. It was tough dealing with the ten power xenomorph clones that early if you don't have the containment chambers out. Have only played a handful of times and have a 1-4 record with the only win coming on Alien 3.

I think Alien Resurrection is the hardest one. If you can keep the complex semi-clear while you look for the containment chambers then you'll fair better. But then the flooded rooms show up and make it harder later on. The more players you have, the harder the game gets, I think. As it takes longer to swing around and that means longer to get your decks built.

I went round to Shevvie's last week and we had 3 or 4 games. Tried playing with the Alien deck and the agendas.

The Alien deck is frigging deadly!!! Do not let a friend get infected!

My fiancée wiped the floor with me when she got bursted. Crazy funny tho since she kept hissing at me the whole time! Lol!

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2014/11/26/legendary-encounters-alien-deck-building-game-review/ (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2014/11/26/legendary-encounters-alien-deck-building-game-review/)

Just posted my review up.

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The housemate and I used the randomizer to generate some custom combinations. The game absolutely nailed us. We tried 2 games and just got slaughtered. xD Still so fun. We've beat the game a total of 6 times and lost it 5. It's nice to know the game continues to challenge.

I'm chatting with Jason Brenner from Upper Deck at the minute. He's confirmed that the next expansion will be July - just waiting for his response to see what license it is going to be.

That's exciting! I'm still having fun with the game. Just introduced some friends to it at New Years and they got hooked. Played it like 4 times in a row. They wanted to go again but had to kick them out. The game still kicks your ass more often than not so I'm glad that it's not just a typical you can't lose kind of game. Challenge and longevity are key and this game nails both.

Jason commented on BGG that we can expect Predator in July.

Cool. I'm assuming these will be 100% compatible with the Alien card series?

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 07, 2015, 09:32:51 PM
Jason commented on BGG that we can expect Predator in July.

Source? Couldn't find anything on BGG

http://boardgamegeek.com/article/18144518#18144518 (http://boardgamegeek.com/article/18144518#18144518)

There you go.

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 07, 2015, 09:57:45 PM
Cool. I'm assuming these will be 100% compatible with the Alien card series?

Should be.

I'm still debating getting this. I'll have to make an international order, and the only people nearby who I'd be able to convince to play it will make me learn MTG in return.

Learn MTG, you don't have to buy into it :P and you can play ME solo.

As an avid MTG player for 12 years i can definatly say a one time spending of 60 bucks is like.... 2 cards in magic. (Of course depends on what you are playing) but magic is faaaar from cheap :P

Edit* also thanks for the link. Stoked about the predator expansion. I wonder if the expansion will be a small taste of what the main pred game will be like.

I imagine it is going to be the "main predator" game. I think the term expansion might be a little bit of a misnomer.

I resleeved this last night. I'd been using those cheap 100 for £2 thin ones as I have a lot of my Star Trek Attack Wing but they don't need reshuffling. I found these thin ones get stuck together pretty fast so I thought I'd buy some better Ultra Pro ones. Went for black to be thematic and the like...Spent about £40 and over 2 hours on the job. xD

It's a good job I like sorting. xD

Yea, me and some friends have recently been playing it every Tuesday, so I decided to invest in sleeves. Dropped about 40 bucks into 12 or so packs. Got barracks, role card, sargents, hatchery and grunts/specialists in dark blue. Strikes in red. Hive deck in green. Alien deck in black. Location in purple. Objectives in orange and avatars in white. Everything looks and feels perfect. Only issue is that sometimes you get a hive card like newt or jonsy into your deck and its a different color, but its a small price to pay when I save 10 minutes on setting up and taking apart the game.

I was playing this last night with a few buddies. I decided to try out the Alien deck. I've only played a game with it in once before and it was Shevvie who was playing as the Alien - I got chestbursted last night so I decided to give it a go. Jesus Christ, it is brutal!!! Only my first turn I took out one of the players and made it pretty impossible for my other buddy to do anything. xD So powerful.

Can anyone refresh my memory on how compatable this is with the Marvel Legendary game? Like.. 80% or something?

Would that make game-play impossible if someone wanted to crossover with the Marvel deck?

Few adjustments needed and its fine. They give guidance in the back of the rulebook. Mostly just keyword changes.

Quote from: elemental-of-all on Feb 21, 2015, 03:49:12 PM
Yea, me and some friends have recently been playing it every Tuesday, so I decided to invest in sleeves. Dropped about 40 bucks into 12 or so packs. Got barracks, role card, sargents, hatchery and grunts/specialists in dark blue. Strikes in red. Hive deck in green. Alien deck in black. Location in purple. Objectives in orange and avatars in white. Everything looks and feels perfect. Only issue is that sometimes you get a hive card like newt or jonsy into your deck and its a different color, but its a small price to pay when I save 10 minutes on setting up and taking apart the game.

I have done the same thing, with only slight color changes on the minor cards. Ultra Pro is totally worth it.

And not for nothing but MTG is totally worth learning. It has influenced so many games including this one, it makes future games so much easier to learn. Plus it's a ton of fun and super customizable. :P

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Feb 26, 2015, 01:10:03 AM
And not for nothing but MTG is totally worth learning. It has influenced so many games including this one, it makes future games so much easier to learn. Plus it's a ton of fun and super customizable. :P

Definitely agree. Even if you don't get into it, it's worth learning the mechanics of it.

Played Alien3 last night with Shevvie and a friend. Took us 2 goes to get through but we managed the second playthrough much better than we did the first. I still love this game. It's way too much fun.

I hope we get expansions for the Alien side of things.

I think Alien 3 is the easiest of the scenarios to beat in my experience. I think I have beaten that both times I have played it but only beaten one of the others in about five or so attempts. And by easy I mean still barely winning at the last second before dying the next turn  ;D

I actually find A3 and Resurrection to be the hardest. With Aliens in just after.

I would have to play each one a few more to make an official difficulty ranking. I guess I was just going off of my undefeated record of 2-0 for Alien 3 against a record of 1-4 for all other scenarios.

I love that we're all having different experiences with it.  ;D

I found the Marvel Legendary Heroes card game at a Walmart.. Any chance these could be found in either a Walmart or a Target? Especially with a Target since my folks get a discount and I could probably get it at said Target.

I don't know to be frank. They sell like hotcakes either way.

I guess it is possible, though I have only seen it at comic/gaming type stores. My guess is the larger stores like that would only have the Marvel one because it has a much more widespread appeal with all of the Marvel movies, toys, apparel etc.

Indeed. I wouldn't argue with that.

I'd try and find your LFGS. But they are quite expensive.

To expand on the good corporal's statements: Find your FLGS, get the game from them, then find out what nights they do open gaming or board game nights, and become a part of their community. Yes, buying from a FLGS is more exoensive then buying online, but there's a lot that a store can offer you that an online seller or a mass market chain can't.

I've played Legendary Encounters about 6 times now. All on Alien, and only 2 victories. SO GOOD.

I'm hoping, and it's just hope, that we see an Alien: Isolation expansion. Adding Sevastopol to locations would be badass.

Agreed. The first thing I want for Encounters is a character expansion that adds characters for the existing scenarios - but then an Isolation expansion would work fantastically. Ideally, though, we probably want that to come out after Isolation 2 and have scenarios for both games.

Just as an aside (and maybe this doesn't belong here), I'm so pleased to see how much excitement Isolation is generating: people want a novel! People want a movie! People want toys! People want a Legendary expansion!

I do, too. :)

That's because Isolation is awesome.:) I rave about it to normal people every chance I get. I buy copies of it for friends that haven't played it, and hound them as to why they've not played it yet!

I think more characters would be great. Maybe more than just archetype avatars. I want to play as Kane. Special rule: Starts game with face hugger in front of him. Kane cannot fight the face hugger this turn.:)

I've lost count of how many times I've played the game but every single time we love the experience. A friend brought a house and got the keys last week. First game we played in that house was Legendary.  ;D

I'd love to see an Isolation expansion too. Even if it was just a mini one. I'd eager to see more expansions for the game. Predator doesn't really seem like one, that's like an entirely new core game from the sounds of it. But it's still missing Predators so there's still an expansion opportunity there.

As for Isolation being awesome - damn right! That game made me proud to be an Alien gaming fan again. I vaguely remember some raving conversations at the pub last week with some fella from school who I barely ever spoke to. xD

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New Alien expansion coming later this year:

QuoteHere you go. Predator hits in July with a SEPERATE Alien expansion hitting later this year.

Vasquez unfortunately, will never be in the set, legal stuff.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/18734785#18734785 (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/18734785#18734785)

This pleases me.

Indeed. Very curious as to what they'll include. One of the 100-card boxes that they've done for the Marvel game could give us a character expansion with an extra 7 characters. Or, you could probably do Isolation as a 100-card set. 4 characters (Amanda, Samuels, Taylor, and the Marshal) - 56 cards, 3 hive decks - 33 cards, 3 objectives, 1 location. That leaves 7 cards to be creative with - new agendas, maybe, or a couple of new strikes or Drone deck cards.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcf.geekdo-images.com%2Fimages%2Fpic2512751_lg.jpg&hash=c24296b8ddd37e85dccc9b599eba04dac3347f78)

Just saw this over on BGG. Made me chuckle.

http://upperdeckstore.com/games-collectibles/legendary-encounters-conversion-kit.html

Conversation pack for play with the Predator expansion is now out.

I just finished my first game on Alien(with the starter rules). I loved it and was surprised at how good it was. I had a fortunate shuffle on my hive deck. Ash and Big Chap were the last two. I was able to keep Ash in the complex until I finally had the right combo to kill it. I was playing 1 player. My son is going to play with me tomorrow.

Shevvie and a buddy came around last night and we played Alien Resurrection and then a mixed scenario. I don't get to play this game enough. The game was swinging and we almost lost right at the very end, pulling the self destruct hazard which took out Shevvie and left our buddy on one health. I love this game so much.

I gave the Alien 3 deck a run last night and it was awesome. By the time I was finished, the Objective 3 hazard card had murdered my barracks, just like the movie. I had 1 card left and the ones in my deck(around 20). The rest were all dead. It was pretty cool.

I think 3 and 4 are actually the hardest scenarios.

I agree that one can't play this game enough and I love we all have different experiences. One thing I kind of miss when playing the other scenarios is the inclusion of eggs, as we only see them in the first film experience. Maybe they can release some more as Drone deck cards?

I think you could probably just use the egg cards in any scenario. I doubt it would even unbalance anything. You can customize it to quite a degree. I can't believe I turned my nose up at this type of game until now.

Quote from: razeak on Sep 07, 2015, 04:09:53 PM
I think you could probably just use the egg cards in any scenario. I doubt it would even unbalance anything. You can customize it to quite a degree. I can't believe I turned my nose up at this type of game until now.

Don't feel bad. Card games can carry a weird stigma about them, as well as some Alien(s)-based games in the no-so-distant decade that still have people upset. I can understand.

What a pleasant surprise, seeing how crazy Legendary Encounters is and how it still captivates us play after play. We know what's coming, like watching the movies, yet we still watch and enjoy every moment countless times.

We don't know what's coming though! Every playthrough is pretty damn different!

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 10, 2015, 07:25:54 AM
We don't know what's coming though! Every playthrough is pretty damn different!

Great point Hicks...unless we scan everything! Lol

We gave A:R a try last night. I think it was the best. We were feeling pretty good, but the newborn devastated us. It must be payback for all the crap I talk about the movie.

Quote from: razeak on Sep 11, 2015, 01:06:21 AM
We gave A:R a try last night. I think it was the best. We were feeling pretty good, but the newborn devastated us. It must be payback for all the crap I talk about the movie.

Oh that is funny. To be fair, haven't beaten the AR game. It is very tough.

It makes a better game than a movie!

I actually beat it somehow on my first try, ONE card before drawing my Chestburster.  :o

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Sep 14, 2015, 10:01:05 PM
It makes a better game than a movie!

I actually beat it somehow on my first try, ONE card before drawing my Chestburster.  :o

Totally agree. Had a similar event happen where I was able to kill the top card of my deck and it was a burster!

I've only ever let a chestburster get into someone's deck once. And he made us pay for it by taking the Alien deck!

Same here, just that one time (I got swarmed by those Cloned Facehuggers in solo and just couldn't waste 'em all).

How did you guys find the Alien player experience?

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Sep 15, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
Same here, just that one time (I got swarmed by those Cloned Facehuggers in solo and just couldn't waste 'em all).

How did you guys find the Alien player experience?

Haven't played it myself but had it played against me and it is unforgiving. Seriously overpowered. But gives the game a new dynamic and lets dead players continue playing for a bit which I like.

Have you gotten to play with it Clemens?

No I haven't, I've been strictly one- or two-player so far. Looking forward to trying out that hidden traitor business when my son gets more familiar with the game!

I beat Alien 3 legit last night. It was a lot of lucky draws.. I only took two 1 point strikes. I pretty much just rolled through it. I was able to kill a lot of my 1 point cards and I could drop 10-13 dmg almost every turn.

The Alien deck is brutal. I think I wrote about it in my review. Lemme find it, save me writing thoughts out again.

"The game comes with 2 additional sets of "advanced rules" that differ from the Legendary – Marvel. These are Hidden Agenda cards and the Alien deck. The Hidden Agendas are a separate set of cards in which players pick from a mixed set of "good" and one "evil" agenda – the idea being to represent a Company operative. These agendas are discovered when Secret Revealed cards are found in the Complex (one for each player is shuffled into the Hive deck).

The "evil" player has to impede the progress of the others but without being too overt about it. It's a fun set of additional rules but its best when played with a group of 4 or more players. It allows for some interesting suspicions to formulate.

The Alien deck is a fun one too! If a player is killed by drawing a chestburster card after being face-hugged, he can become an Alien. There are 4 Alien avatars and one is selected randomly.  The player than takes the Alien deck and it is full of devastating cards. It really is in your best interest to work to get rid of those face-huggers – something I learnt the hard way!

My biggest problem with these additional components is the artwork – they use the same image for every card within the Alien deck, the same image for all the Good Agendas and the same for all the Evil Agendas.  It lacks the visual diversity of the main decks and can be dull to look at. It also means you aren't able to reconigze the card text from the artwork alone."

http://www.avpgalaxy.net/games/legendary-encounters-alien-review/

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Sep 16, 2015, 04:30:44 PM
No I haven't, I've been strictly one- or two-player so far. Looking forward to trying out that hidden traitor business when my son gets more familiar with the game!

Don't feel bad, I haven't been able to play with the traitor rules yet either. I can't wait myself! Best of luck teaching your son. It really isn't impossible to learn.

Quote from: razeak on Sep 20, 2015, 04:37:53 PM
I beat Alien 3 legit last night. It was a lot of lucky draws.. I only took two 1 point strikes. I pretty much just rolled through it. I was able to kill a lot of my 1 point cards and I could drop 10-13 dmg almost every turn.

Did you play solo??

Yeah I played solo and only used one deck.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 08, 2015, 08:28:17 AM
http://boardgamegeek.com/article/18144518#18144518 (http://boardgamegeek.com/article/18144518#18144518)

There you go.

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 07, 2015, 09:57:45 PM
Cool. I'm assuming these will be 100% compatible with the Alien card series?

Should be.

They are indeed. Slight wording changes provided in the rule book for easy understanding.

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https://twitter.com/BoardGameGeek/status/698860957615972352/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Yay! Specially themed Aliens set, I guess, for the anniversary. Wonder if we'll be seeing Vasquez and more characters!  ;D

I hate to break the news, but Vasquez has been officially confirmed to be a no-go due to likeness rights issues. :(

Still, looking forward to this expansion. I want Brett!  :)

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Feb 15, 2016, 03:04:41 PM
I hate to break the news, but Vasquez has been officially confirmed to be a no-go due to likeness rights issues. :(

Still, looking forward to this expansion. I want Brett!  :)

Any chance you have an official link for that? I'm hoping against hope lol

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Yay! Specially themed Aliens set, I guess, for the anniversary. Wonder if we'll be seeing Vasquez and more characters!  ;D

I can't wait to see what this set has inside. I felt they covered quite a bit in the game so I'm eager to see new cards! Hopefully more healing abilities lol

Exciting news indeed! I love the Legendary game, I look forward to this new expansion!

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Feb 16, 2016, 01:57:30 AM
Any chance you have an official link for that? I'm hoping against hope lol

It might actually be linked to in this thread. It was probably from BoardGameGeeks.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 16, 2016, 08:23:18 AM

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Feb 16, 2016, 01:57:30 AM
Any chance you have an official link for that? I'm hoping against hope lol

It might actually be linked to in this thread. It was probably from BoardGameGeeks.

It was. I don't have time to find it just now 'cause I'm on my lunch break, but if no one's found it by tonight I'll dig it up.  :)

I don't think this will be specifically aliens.
I think some comic stuff will be included.

All I want is an alien barracks deck, with 4 or 5 avatars. Or a way to convert the current avatars.

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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 16, 2016, 08:23:18 AM

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Feb 16, 2016, 01:57:30 AM
Any chance you have an official link for that? I'm hoping against hope lol

It might actually be linked to in this thread. It was probably from BoardGameGeeks.

It was. I don't have time to find it just now 'cause I'm on my lunch break, but if no one's found it by tonight I'll dig it up.  :)

I just had a flick through but couldn't find it.

Aaaaand, I forgot to go find it. On lunch again, but will link it tonight!

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EDIT: nevermind, found it:

http://boardgamegeek.com/article/18734785#18734785 (http://boardgamegeek.com/article/18734785#18734785)

QuoteHere you go. Predator hits in July with a SEPERATE Alien expansion hitting later this year.

Vasquez unfortunately, will never be in the set, legal stuff.

Thanks, Clemens.

And again, sorry to break the bad news. :(

In lieu of Vasquez, I'd really like to see Apone - hopefully his inclusion as the 'face' of the Sergeant deck doesn't disqualify him. Or maybe Drake, to work in some o' that smartgun action that Vasquez would've provided...

I finally beat the Resurrection scenario the other day. It was a four player game with people that were all veteran gamers even though they haven't played this game before. There were a few dicey times but we eventually won with a few massive turns against the Newborn and Cloned Queen. I think the key was great team work with the most coordinate cards being used in any game I've played.

I also believe it helped that I was the priest avatar which can be very powerful with its main ability. I was able to buy several high cost cards to put in my deck since I was able to spend all my attack points as recruit points. I got the Fa Th Ur card and drew it several times and it let me scan all the rooms as well as providing four attack points.

It also helped that we were able to get rid of the chestburster card that had gotten into my discard pile. I think that was only the second time that a burster had gotten that far, but we were able to use a mobilize ability to get rid of it. Overall I think it was one of the most fun games that I have played since it was the first time I beat that scenario and the amount of team work that we had.

Quote from: Machiko Naguchi on Feb 28, 2016, 03:06:31 AM
I also believe it helped that I was the priest avatar which can be very powerful with its main ability. I was able to buy several high cost cards to put in my deck since I was able to spend all my attack points as recruit points. I got the Fa Th Ur card and drew it several times and it let me scan all the rooms as well as providing four attack points.

I love the Merc for his reverse ability. The option of deciding between recruit and attack is just great!

Yeah they can both be really powerful I think. Not sure if I have done the Merc one yet but I think if you have a group that includes both of those then you should be in fairly decent shape.

It's just the flexibility of the choice. Really powerful. I prefer either of them to the Scientist or Gunner.

Yep, I have thought the exact same thing.

http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/33714/deadpool-homies-shark-island-more

QuoteThe Legendary Encounters Alien Expansion is due in May.  "It focuses a lot on the Alien queen, so there will be a lot ot of Queen dynamics going on, as well as more marines, more chaos."

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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 14, 2016, 11:36:25 AM
http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/33714/deadpool-homies-shark-island-more

QuoteThe Legendary Encounters Alien Expansion is due in May.  "It focuses a lot on the Alien queen, so there will be a lot ot of Queen dynamics going on, as well as more marines, more chaos."

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Looks great. Shame they couldn't get it done in time for Aliens Day. Also, from that article there's another game coming out called Shark Island next year, which the premise sounds hilarious. I couldn't help but think of Jaws but in a board game. 

Expansion focusing on Queen: YES!YES!YES!  ;D  8) The queen is my favorite if you couldn't tell  ;)

I hadn't noticed any fondness for the Queen!  :P

Wow love the art on the expansion set!! Even though sorting the cards in the first set were
a pain in the ass, they were still nice to look at so I'll be looking forward to this popping out
for sure. I've owned the game for months now & really need to get on playing it soon it looks
like a blast

Quote from: XenoZipper on Mar 17, 2016, 06:22:22 PM
Wow love the art on the expansion set!! Even though sorting the cards in the first set were
a pain in the ass, they were still nice to look at so I'll be looking forward to this popping out
for sure. I've owned the game for months now & really need to get on playing it soon it looks
like a blast

You haven't tried it solo? It's a lot of fun!

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Mar 17, 2016, 09:39:38 PM
You haven't tried it solo? It's a lot of fun!

Yea unfortunately I just haven't gotten around to playing a solo game yet. I'm not very well versed in these kind of card games so figuring out how to play takes a little longer for me. I didn't really play many card games as a kid. I've never played Magic or anything like that before. I really do want to play it though don't get me wrong, I just need to stop being lazy & maybe watch a solo play on youtube & then take it from there because it does look awesome to play.

Oh man, don't sweat it. Games like Magic and stuff intimidate me too, but this one is so simple that you can practically learn as you play. And if you get something wrong - who cares, it was a solo game! Just correct the mistake next time.

You're in for a lot of fun!

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Mar 17, 2016, 10:53:10 PM
Oh man, don't sweat it. Games like Magic and stuff intimidate me too, but this one is so simple that you can practically learn as you play. And if you get something wrong - who cares, it was a solo game! Just correct the mistake next time.

You're in for a lot of fun!

Thanks dude that's refreshing to hear honestly. Yea a lot of those card based games are intimidating to me. I play a board game called Zombies which is a lot of fun, a tile based game so the map is never the same. I mostly a video gamer so my experience with card games sucks haha but I'll certainly sit down with Legendary Encounters pretty soon, you guys give me a lot of hope for it being awesome  :)

I hadn't played any deckbuilding games either before this and I just watched a play video once and then read instructions. I have played a lot of MtG so that might have helped a little, but I don't think it will be hard to pick up at all. Like I tell people about MtG, you don't have to remember that many rules, for almost everything you just read the info on the cards. So if you can read you should be ok  ;)

Haha reading I can do  ;) I really look forward to it. Maybe if time permits I'll give it a go tomorrow

I was actually going suggest solo play too. However, I actually play with 2 hands like I saw someone do in a playthrough video. I'd suggest giving playthrough videos a look at, they'll explain near enough everything you need to know.

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QuoteI asked Mr. Brenner some questions during the Dice Tower live stream yesterday:

Will the new Alien expansion be fully compatible with Predator? Yes (I wonder what that means, but hopefully the cards will take the trophy mechanic into consideration)

Will there be a dedicated Alien Vs Predator expansion somewhere in the future? No

https://boardgamegeek.com/article/22108579#22108579

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QuoteI asked Mr. Brenner some questions during the Dice Tower live stream yesterday:

Will the new Alien expansion be fully compatible with Predator? Yes (I wonder what that means, but hopefully the cards will take the trophy mechanic into consideration)

Will there be a dedicated Alien Vs Predator expansion somewhere in the future? No

https://boardgamegeek.com/article/22108579#22108579

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Good find Hicks. Honestly, I think there will be some sort of AvP thing in the future. They just need the rights to it. And the interest from the community.

I gotta thank you guys for giving me the push  to finally sit down & learn how to play this game!! I'm totally hooked & addicted haha This is definitely one of those games where I felt a little "duh" at being intimidated by it after I played a game or 2. Now I've been playing it for the last 3 days trying to get through the movies. Really wish I had picked up Predator now as well but I held off on it not having played Alien yet at the time. Of course there's still ways I haven't played the game yet. I haven't included Good/Evil Agendas yet or the Hidden Order cards nor have I played with having a dead character come back as an Alien so there's still new ways for me to try in the future but for now I'm just having a lot of fun trying to get through the objectives of each movie. Sometimes not all that easy either. I think so far I've only won a found of Alien & Alien 3 but both Aliens & Resurrection murdered me haha Now I definitely look forward to this Queen expansion!

The add-ons like the Agendas or the Alien deck are things you probably want to wait until you have a good amount of people at the table to really play. I'm glad you gave it a go though!

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 28, 2016, 10:34:47 AM
The add-ons like the Agendas or the Alien deck are things you probably want to wait until you have a good amount of people at the table to really play. I'm glad you gave it a go though!

Completely agree & I've kept the Good/Bad Agendas, the Secrets Revealed & the Alien Player deck away from me for the time being & haven't incorporated them into the game yet though I am looking forward to adding the Alien deck in soon haha. It's been a lot of fun though, not as intimidating when you finally find a video playthrough on youtube with someone explaining it for super noobs at card games like me haha Now I feel a little silly I took so long to get around to playing it. Kinda wish I bought Predator now when I had the chance haha I still might if the store here still has it. There's not much for Alien/Predator fans in my area so it's not like I have much competition to acquire haha What I do need to invest in though is individual card holders. I really don't want any damage to my cards from constant shuffling n such.

Quote from: XenoZipper on Mar 28, 2016, 03:10:22 PM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 28, 2016, 10:34:47 AM
The add-ons like the Agendas or the Alien deck are things you probably want to wait until you have a good amount of people at the table to really play. I'm glad you gave it a go though!

Completely agree & I've kept the Good/Bad Agendas, the Secrets Revealed & the Alien Player deck away from me for the time being & haven't incorporated them into the game yet though I am looking forward to adding the Alien deck in soon haha. It's been a lot of fun though, not as intimidating when you finally find a video playthrough on youtube with someone explaining it for super noobs at card games like me haha Now I feel a little silly I took so long to get around to playing it. Kinda wish I bought Predator now when I had the chance haha I still might if the store here still has it. There's not much for Alien/Predator fans in my area so it's not like I have much competition to acquire haha What I do need to invest in though is individual card holders. I really don't want any damage to my cards from constant shuffling n such.

Pick up some sleeves online like Amazon or at a local gaming shop. Ultra Pros are meant for Magic the Gathering cards but they are a perfect fit for Legendary. And color coded for your organizational needs.

I unfortunately don't have proper means for online buying. I don't have a credit card or anything that so it would have to be local which causes another problem. I live in an extremely small town. I was surprised that the store I got the game from even had it to begin with. Maybe I might be able to get sleeves from them but I'd have to get them ordered in & probably cost me more that way (it's a local store not chain so he charges more for ordering things in for you). My best bet is to travel an hour & 45mins to the next town over which is also a problem as I don't drive so it's not like I can hop over anytime. It sucks living in a super small town. I come from Vancouver originally which is not small in the slightest & I had everything awesome at my fingertips but then I had to move to where I am now & it's been downhill on my collecting ever since. I'm one of those guys that prefers going into a store & not knowing what I'll find. Buying online just makes it too easy for me to blow every penny I got. To put it bluntly, the biggest thing the town I live in now has going for it is Walmart if that says anything. We have a local theater, no chains like a Famous Players or Cineplex. I need to move out & get back into the big city again but it got way too costly in Vancouver. Couldn't live & collect without a job that paid big bucks which I've never had in my life yet.

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With that said though, I do really like the idea of those Ultra Pro's being color coded sleeves haha I'm definitely the kind of person who would use a different color for each deck, each movie type thing. I used to keep all my Aliens/Predator comics alphabetical but now I keep them in order of when they came out so you know I'm not one day reading a story from 92 then the next one I pull out is from 98 or something like that. I want to keep them in proper year order. Of course I still keep Alien & Predator separate in the major alphabet order but each comic in the series is done by release year of Issue 1.

Quote from: XenoZipper on Mar 29, 2016, 02:48:55 AM
I unfortunately don't have proper means for online buying. I don't have a credit card or anything that so it would have to be local which causes another problem. I live in an extremely small town. I was surprised that the store I got the game from even had it to begin with. Maybe I might be able to get sleeves from them but I'd have to get them ordered in & probably cost me more that way (it's a local store not chain so he charges more for ordering things in for you). My best bet is to travel an hour & 45mins to the next town over which is also a problem as I don't drive so it's not like I can hop over anytime. It sucks living in a super small town. I come from Vancouver originally which is not small in the slightest & I had everything awesome at my fingertips but then I had to move to where I am now & it's been downhill on my collecting ever since. I'm one of those guys that prefers going into a store & not knowing what I'll find. Buying online just makes it too easy for me to blow every penny I got. To put it bluntly, the biggest thing the town I live in now has going for it is Walmart if that says anything. We have a local theater, no chains like a Famous Players or Cineplex. I need to move out & get back into the big city again but it got way too costly in Vancouver. Couldn't live & collect without a job that paid big bucks which I've never had in my life yet.

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With that said though, I do really like the idea of those Ultra Pro's being color coded sleeves haha I'm definitely the kind of person who would use a different color for each deck, each movie type thing. I used to keep all my Aliens/Predator comics alphabetical but now I keep them in order of when they came out so you know I'm not one day reading a story from 92 then the next one I pull out is from 98 or something like that. I want to keep them in proper year order. Of course I still keep Alien & Predator separate in the major alphabet order but each comic in the series is done by release year of Issue 1.

I understand. I grew up in a small town that everything interesting was at least 20 mins away. Now I live in a small city outside a larger one so everything is 5 mins down the road including Toys R Us, Walmart, the movies and plenty of gas stations so currently my wife and I are set lol. However, we do want to move and so I would have to do the longer drive again. Ironically, our family and friends and church we attend are farther away because of the initial move.

I love going into a store and looking around for cool stuff. Did that at a toy show a couple weekends back and I found several funko figures I wanted and the NECA Warrior Predator from Series 6 that I had been looking for and got for a great price!

Yeah I bought over 400 sleeves to color code the Legendary game and it's super nice, both to reorganize after play and during. It was quite a bit to sleeve it but worth it in the end. As long as you don't pay more than $7-$8 per 100 sleeves, you aren't getting taken to the cleaners by your local. I'm all for supporting local small businesses but not when they unreasonably overcharge.

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 29, 2016, 03:23:23 AM
I understand. I grew up in a small town that everything interesting was at least 20 mins away. Now I live in a small city outside a larger one so everything is 5 mins down the road including Toys R Us, Walmart, the movies and plenty of gas stations so currently my wife and I are set lol. However, we do want to move and so I would have to do the longer drive again. Ironically, our family and friends and church we attend are farther away because of the initial move.

I love going into a store and looking around for cool stuff. Did that at a toy show a couple weekends back and I found several funko figures I wanted and the NECA Warrior Predator from Series 6 that I had been looking for and got for a great price!

Yeah I bought over 400 sleeves to color code the Legendary game and it's super nice, both to reorganize after play and during. It was quite a bit to sleeve it but worth it in the end. As long as you don't pay more than $7-$8 per 100 sleeves, you aren't getting taken to the cleaners by your local. I'm all for supporting local small businesses but not when they unreasonably overcharge.

That's EXACTLY the kind of life I was used to. I lived in Vancouver for a good 20 some odd years having almost anything I would have wanted at my disposal to having next to nothing in my area now. Even the game shop I got the Alien game from is just a small little local store. They normally deal with Warhammer/Magic so I was very surprised to even see the game in there. It was the only copy too & well, now it's mine I guess haha I've really been thinking about going for those Funko ReAction figures. I would prefer Neca obviously for the look/detail but with the ReAction being about $10 each, shouldn't be too hard to complete that collection fast & go back to Neca.

Thanks for the head's up on prices of the sleeves! I didn't know what they go for & certainly don't want to get drained cause there's a lot of damn cards in that game haha I'm the same I like to suppose local small businesses but if they're selling the same product I can find for say $5 cheaper at Walmart, I'll take the $5 cheaper. It's bad enough the one time I got them to order me in the Metroid Prime Trilogy on Wii & that ran me $100 for a used copy. Would have been more for a sealed one. Sadly, the price for it online was no better so I sucked it up & paid it. Now I see the same game is on the WiiU Virtual Store for $20. Win some, lose some but at least it's a real physical copy haha

If you're gonna be sleeving the different decks in different colours, bear in mind that sometimes some cards get shuffled to/from different decks (facehuggers in the barracks, for example), so you could be spoiling some surprises for yourself!

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Mar 29, 2016, 04:00:29 PM
If you're gonna be sleeving the different decks in different colours, bear in mind that sometimes some cards get shuffled to/from different decks (facehuggers in the barracks, for example), so you could be spoiling some surprises for yourself!

Ah good thinking there Mr.Clemens I didn't think of that! This is rumor control, here are the facts.. haha I did recently play a game where I had to take 3 Facehuggers from the Hatchery & stick them in random spots in the barracks & yea you're right that it would have been spoiled by seeing the different color sleeve. Maybe Barracks & Hatchery I would keep the same color for those "in case" times & then have different colors for Strikes, Hive cards.

I went for all black. Seemed a fitting colour for Alien and it's not like I can't tell what decks they're from. It says it on them.

I do still need to buy proper sleeves for Predator though. I'm still using those flimsy penny ones for that.

Black sounds nice too. It would have been nice if the back of the cards was the kinda of "A" logo that's on the Quadrilogy boxset or even a small graphic of the egg that's on the box.

If you want to sleeve them for a small amount of money you can just use the penny sleeves. I used those for the whole thing and they work fine for me. I know the Ultra Pro are better but as long as you don't play all the time then they hold up well enough.

Penny sleeves are the cheapest way to go and honestly, offer exactly what you want mainly, protection. Colors are nice and I like it color coded so I don't ever run the risk of the game falling off the table or the box exploding and it takes forever to resort it. With colors, such as red for the strike deck, it helps make set up and clean up easier. However, no one is wrong here. It really comes down to preference and budget.

I certainly appreciate the suggestions on both though, thanks guys. It's definitely more for protection & keeping them in good condition over anything else so it doesn't really matter to me which one I end up going with. For budgetary reasons I see myself going for the penny sleeves. I got the dividers in good use splitting up the decks & been labeled already so set up & all that is fairly fast for me. I don't always play so well & don't always beat a game but I have a blast playing it. I'll have to pick up Predator next time I have a chance or just wait for the Queen set.

Quote from: XenoZipper on Mar 31, 2016, 01:29:48 AM
I certainly appreciate the suggestions on both though, thanks guys. It's definitely more for protection & keeping them in good condition over anything else so it doesn't really matter to me which one I end up going with. For budgetary reasons I see myself going for the penny sleeves. I got the dividers in good use splitting up the decks & been labeled already so set up & all that is fairly fast for me. I don't always play so well & don't always beat a game but I have a blast playing it. I'll have to pick up Predator next time I have a chance or just wait for the Queen set.

They are both super enjoyable and flavorful! You'll love Predator and I can't wait to see what Upper Deck does with this expansion!

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 31, 2016, 01:52:02 AM
They are both super enjoyable and flavorful! You'll love Predator and I can't wait to see what Upper Deck does with this expansion!

Sounds good to me! I did see the store I grabbed Alien from did have Predator as well though not sure if they still do or not. Good chance though, there isn't much at all for Aliens/Predator fans in my area. Yea I'm looking forward to that Expansion as well! Box art looks deadly! I don't think I've had this much fun playing a card game in many many years

Personally I suggest using the penny ones until you can afford to get proper ones. It's better to have some protection than none at all but I don't recommend them as a long term solution, especially not when you're shuffling.

Quote from: PRJ_since1990 on Mar 31, 2016, 01:23:27 AM
Penny sleeves are the cheapest way to go and honestly, offer exactly what you want mainly, protection. Colors are nice and I like it color coded so I don't ever run the risk of the game falling off the table or the box exploding and it takes forever to resort it. With colors, such as red for the strike deck, it helps make set up and clean up easier. However, no one is wrong here. It really comes down to preference and budget.

The sorting ability would be a nice side benefit, but if I did the colors it would be for a more thematic reason. It would be awesome to have a green hive deck and a red strike deck and so on.

There's still the issue of mixing decks, though. Like, if you had Jones, Newt, a 'Brother', or Purvis in your deck, with a green back you'd always know when they were coming up.

Like XenoZipper, I'd definitely be up for sleeves that had the LE 'egg' graphic on them, though. I'd sleeve the whole game in that.

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Mar 31, 2016, 10:41:01 PM
There's still the issue of mixing decks, though. Like, if you had Jones, Newt, a 'Brother', or Purvis in your deck, with a green back you'd always know when they were coming up.

Like XenoZipper, I'd definitely be up for sleeves that had the LE 'egg' graphic on them, though. I'd sleeve the whole game in that.

That would be great! Sign me up.

Those special cards? I have spare sleeves (hive in green, strike red, everything else blue) so I can switch to the necessary color when those ones come up.

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/226201

July release.

Awesome! Can't wait to pick that up! I'm still having a blast playing the main game & I still haven't done EVERYTHING you can with it yet. I've still yet to add Good/Evil Agendas into the game, still yet to have a dead character become an Alien & play as that still too. I still have to get the Predator one as well.

The extra stuff in Alien seems very tacked on. And the Alien deck is mega OP. However, the alternate stuff in Predator fits far better.

I am the same as xenozipper in that I haven't played any of the extra parts of alien. But I am very excited for new content, especially being able to play as the queen 😀

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 13, 2016, 08:03:21 AM
The extra stuff in Alien seems very tacked on. And the Alien deck is mega OP. However, the alternate stuff in Predator fits far better.

I agree the Alien stuff seems a bit tacked on & really only seems to be useful if you're playing with a bunch of people but honestly it's usually just me playing it by myself playing as 2 different characters. Sometimes my brother plays with me but not often so when it's just me, it seems pretty pointless to have one of my guys turn into an Alien & then attack myself haha But yea, Secrets Revealed & Good/Evil Agendas are still something I need to include in the game at some point when it's my brother & I playing.

Quote from: XenoZipper on May 14, 2016, 01:23:44 AM

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 13, 2016, 08:03:21 AM
The extra stuff in Alien seems very tacked on. And the Alien deck is mega OP. However, the alternate stuff in Predator fits far better.

I agree the Alien stuff seems a bit tacked on & really only seems to be useful if you're playing with a bunch of people but honestly it's usually just me playing it by myself playing as 2 different characters. Sometimes my brother plays with me but not often so when it's just me, it seems pretty pointless to have one of my guys turn into an Alien & then attack myself haha But yea, Secrets Revealed & Good/Evil Agendas are still something I need to include in the game at some point when it's my brother & I playing.

I haven't tried these new rules yet myself. Def want to though but need a bigger player group and my 2 cousins aren't always available.

That's my prob too. Barely any of my friends will play board/card games with me let alone being Alien fans. Only my brother will play with me.

Rather than bump both this and the Predator Legendary Encounters thread, I'll just ask here: which of the two would you guys recommend picking up first? Does one offer more value for money than the other (given that the Alien one covers four movies whereas Predator only covers two, for example)? Or is it really just down to personal preference?

I've watched just about every playthrough I could find Youtube of the two of them, and I really like everything I've seen and heard. I was kind of leaning towards Predator, but I like how varied the Alien one looks, with all the different movies/scenarios and cards that those entail (all the various types of Aliens look like a cool feature). But I also like that you can play as the Predator in that game.

I'm completely new to deck building games, if that has any bearing on anything, but I feel like I've got a pretty good grasp of the basics from all the hours of videos I've watched of people playing them both. Chances are I'll mostly be playing by myself with only the occasional muliplayer sessions, again just in case that might be a factor in picking one up over the other.

I'm sure I'll end up getting them both eventually, but as is usually the case with so many things, the initial barrier is money. :-\ So better to go with one for now, then pick up the other one at some point down the road.

I was completely new to deck building games too before I played Alien. So far, that's the only one I've played so I've had no chances to try Predator yet. I would say it's just down to preference for which one you want. I'm more of an Alien fan than I am Pred (not by much though) so for me, made sense to go for Alien. It's a fun game & it's not that hard to play by yourself either if you can suspend your imagination a little bit (that's only if you're like me & have no one to play the game with)

Quote from: Kailem on Aug 07, 2016, 03:12:13 PM
Rather than bump both this and the Predator Legendary Encounters thread, I'll just ask here: which of the two would you guys recommend picking up first? Does one offer more value for money than the other (given that the Alien one covers four movies whereas Predator only covers two, for example)? Or is it really just down to personal preference?

Whilst Predator only covers the first 2 movies, it's actually doubled in that it comes with 2 kind of Legendary games. It includes the mechanics for a co-op human based gameplay that Alien does, but it also has a second gameplay mechanic as Predators where you vs. each other. It's a much more fleshed out vs. mode than is included in Aliens.

QuoteI'm completely new to deck building games, if that has any bearing on anything, but I feel like I've got a pretty good grasp of the basics from all the hours of videos I've watched of people playing them both. Chances are I'll mostly be playing by myself with only the occasional muliplayer sessions, again just in case that might be a factor in picking one up over the other.

I think it's pretty friendly to get into. It's not really like your major card games. And you should figure out everything you need by watching the gameplay videos on YouTube.

Really, it's just down to preference. Do you like Alien or Predator more? They're both great games and I really recommend both eventually. They're great fun to play with buddies who love the films.

Thanks for the input guys. :) Sounds like they're both as good as each other, as I figured/hoped.

So I guess now, since it sounds like neither is really superior to the other in any sort of gameplay or value kind of way, I just need to get back to the agonising task of simply deciding which one I'd prefer to get first! :P

The Aliens expansion seems to have been pushed back to November.

QuoteThe company is planning an expansion for Legendary Encounters: An Alien Deck-Building Game (see "'Alien' Deck-Building Game"). Release is planned for November.

http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/35208/upper-deck-reveals-schedule-five-new-games

Boo

My response exactly. I thought it was due out this month.

Some more details regarding the expansion:

Quote400 cards
The roster of playable characters grows with fan favorites form the 4 Alien universe movies.
New Keywords, Drones, and Strikes.
New never before seen content and stories.
Play as the Alien Queen with her very own playmat and cards.

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https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1653267/what-will-be-hatching

QuoteWelcome to the first preview of the new expansion for Legendary® Encounters: An Alien™ Deck Building Game. Over the next few weeks we will delve into new stories, new mechanics, and a whole new mode of play, but today we're going to start off with some old favorites. Specifically, here are some characters that we didn't have room to include in the Core set.

Here's good old Engineer Brett with a new take on the Coordinate mechanic.

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For the first time Dual Class Character cards are introduced into Legendary® Encounters.

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Each of the four films gains two new characters, and each of those characters has an "uncommon" card that counts as two classes and has two different class abilities. (Yes, if you play two copies of Find a Way to Help Him, both abilities on the second copy will trigger.)

If you've played enough of the base game, you're aware that things can get pretty desperate. Fortunately, there are some new cards designed to help you out in those situations.

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The Desperation keyword lets you know that the card has two modes: one regular effect and a more powerful or flexible effect if things are going badly in a specific way (defined by each Desperation card).

In addition to two new characters for each film, this set includes a "greatest hits" Ripley. This 14 card playable character version of Ellen Ripley has one new card for each movie that references a keyword or other mechanic from the base set.

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We hope you enjoyed today's preview. Tune in next time for a look at the two new Hives.  The Legendary® Encounters: An Alien™ Deck Building Game Expansion hatches in stores this December and is available for pre-order now at your favorite local gaming store.

http://upperdeckblog.com/2016/11/legendary-encounters-alien-expansion-preview-old-favorites/

Looks cool so far, but now its not until December. ugh  :(

Quote from: Machiko Naguchi on Nov 05, 2016, 05:39:09 PM
Looks cool so far, but now its not until December. ugh  :(

Which is fine, patience is a virtue we could all benefit from having more of! :)

From what I've read, this expansion is as big as the full game. This is wonderful! One of the best things to happen to this franchise on the gaming side of things that is.

Yep I'm with you. I'd rather it be later and totally badass than rushed and not as good.

It's funny... I'm excited for this expansion, but I kind of wonder how much use I'll get out of it. Reason being, I always play pure vanilla: each movie's location along with its related hive and characters. I've never attempted mixing the films, particularly since I play solo and thus I'm the one shuffling all the cards. Having to kick out, say, Dallas and Lambert to get Kane and Brett into my game would sort of bother me.

Perhaps I'm just lazy.  :P

I wouldn't say lazy at all. No one likes cleanup so to completely avoid it is actually a skill in and of itself lol. I play vanilla too, but with people

Just depends how you store it, I guess. I've no issue with cleaning away after a mixed game.

And another blog: http://upperdeckblog.com/2016/11/legendary-encounters-alien-expansion-preview-death-from-above

Looks like they're taking some creative freedom and I like it!

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"Steve? Steve?!?! STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!"



I never actually got round to picking up either one of the other of the Legendary Alien/Predator card games, but I'm strongly thinking I will be for Christmas. And seeing these previews of this new expansion is really making me lean towards the Alien one (even though I doubt I'll actually get the expansion for a long while yet).

I'm a fan of all the crazy EU and Kenner-style xenomorph variants, so I'm totally cool with them coming up with some new ones for this. Heck, compared to some, these actually seem pretty restrained!  :D And the first new story scenario sounds cool as well, definitely a recipe for more cool types of Aliens to show up as well as lots of survivors and people to get in and out of trouble.

All in all this looks to be shaping up really well!

Hey there is finally a release date and it is on my birthday!  Seems like an easy idea for a present  ;D

Quote from: Kailem on Nov 11, 2016, 08:00:16 PM
"Steve? Steve?!?! STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!!!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHr3ag7B410

I never actually got round to picking up either one of the other of the Legendary Alien/Predator card games, but I'm strongly thinking I will be for Christmas. And seeing these previews of this new expansion is really making me lean towards the Alien one (even though I doubt I'll actually get the expansion for a long while yet).

I'm a fan of all the crazy EU and Kenner-style xenomorph variants, so I'm totally cool with them coming up with some new ones for this. Heck, compared to some, these actually seem pretty restrained!  :D And the first new story scenario sounds cool as well, definitely a recipe for more cool types of Aliens to show up as well as lots of survivors and people to get in and out of trouble.

All in all this looks to be shaping up really well!

LOL Steve. What is this, Blue's Clues meets Alien? The dog and the salt & pepper shakers have to find Steve in the Hive....

Anyways, I'm very apathetic regarding the flying thing. I'm glad it's not like the mechanic in MTG where a creature with flying can only be fought with other creatures with flying. I hope there's some sort of electric fence or flak cannons we'll be able to keep the skies clear, like the sentry guns in the second film.

When it comes to Aliens, I always figured they were scary enough and didn't need wings. When I saw flying Aliens, I thought Kenner and not in a good way, like a "that's goofy" kind of way.

Another preview's up: http://upperdeckblog.com/2016/11/legendary-encounters-alien-expansion-preview-enhanced/

Looks like the second story/location takes place post-Alien: Resurrection and features "enhanced" xenomorphs.

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Judging by that third hazard and this new "Enhanced" mechanic, it looks like this one's going to be particularly tough!

That looks pretty cool! I like how it fits with the Rage War trilogy mentioning how many times WY tried methods like nano control and genetic engineering to control the xenos, only for it to be a disaster every time.

I also like how they've worked a 'weaponised by WY' version of the Aliens' ability to take characteristics from their hosts into a gameplay mechanic. That's one of the things I really like about these Aliens and Predator Legendary Encounters games, how they take scenes and character abilities and stuff and actually find a way to make them part of the gameplay rather than just window dressing.

QuoteWhen an Enhanced Alien is revealed, put the top character card of the Barracks face up underneath that Alien. That card represents the host that Xenomorph was born from. The class symbol on that card determines which of the five different enhancements is active on the alien. (Inactive ones are ignored.)

If the host turns out to be a character with two class symbols, the Xenomorph will get both of those enhancements. When an Enhanced Enemy is killed the character card is placed at the bottom of the Barracks.

Oh man, I love that Enhanced mechanic. Upper Deck are just fantastic at really making the gameplay flavorful.

No a massive fan of the artwork though. It's still hit and miss.

While I don't have a problem with any of the artwork in these last couple of previews, it certainly seems to be a bit of an issue in general with these games. I guess that's just what happens when multiple artists are hired for all the various cards. Some look great, others you'd have a hard time telling who or what they were supposed to be without the text to tell you. :P

These games just seem like a huge missed opportunity in terms of artists. Could you imagine Den Beauvais on these cards?

Oh man, that would just be too good.

Maybe that's been their plan all along, release the game as-is, then somewhere down the line announce the "Den Beauvais Card Pack" with all the same cards redone by him and make a fortune! :laugh:

The Queen gameplay preview is up! http://upperdeckblog.com/2016/11/legendary-encounters-alien-expansion-preview-all-hail-the-queen/

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Sounds like she's going to make things really tough for the other players!

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Jesus. Christ. That is horrific. Quadruple strike?! That is going to be impossible.  :laugh:

I will say I'm a little surprised they're only using the "official" xeno variations from the movies for the Queen's deck rather than pulling in anything from the EU, especially given that one of the new game modes here has flying Aliens in it. I would have liked to have seen some Praetorians or something along those lines make an appearance somewhere too (Predaliens would have been cool too, but probably a bit tricky to implement if you the players didn't also have the Predator game).

This is gonna be fun! And more expansions down the line to incorporate the AvP films and more EU stuff. Still hoping that AVP Extinction gets some love. Def asking for this for Christmas is it's available

I couldn't decide between getting either the Aliens or the Predator game for Christmas, so I just said "screw it" and ordered both. :laugh: As always, when an "option A or option B?" decision is too hard, go with option "C". ;) I'm really looking forward to finally playing them both.

Is that confirmed about more expansions in the works after this one? I've no idea when I might pick this one up, but the more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.

Quote from: Kailem on Nov 26, 2016, 06:54:23 PM
I couldn't decide between getting either the Aliens or the Predator game for Christmas, so I just said "screw it" and ordered both. :laugh: As always, when an "option A or option B?" decision is too hard, go with option "C". ;) I'm really looking forward to finally playing them both.

Is that confirmed about more expansions in the works after this one? I've no idea when I might pick this one up, but the more the merrier as far as I'm concerned.

I don't blame you! Both are quite different in the nuances and it really has the flavor of the respective movies.

Nothing as of yet that I am aware, all attention is on the current ALIENS expansion. We should all buy it if we want to see new expansions released since that's how they gauge the interest!

Yeah I'd definitely like to pick it up at some point since I like the look of these previews and I already know I'm going to have a great time with these base games going by all the Youtube videos I've watched of them being played. And like you say, they've still got the two AVP movies plus Predators on that side of things to potentially make new content out of, not to mention just going full-on expanded universe like they have with parts of this expansion, so more content in one form or another would be great!

Quote from: Kailem on Nov 27, 2016, 01:48:42 AM
Yeah I'd definitely like to pick it up at some point since I like the look of these previews and I already know I'm going to have a great time with these base games going by all the Youtube videos I've watched of them being played. And like you say, they've still got the two AVP movies plus Predators on that side of things to potentially make new content out of, not to mention just going full-on expanded universe like they have with parts of this expansion, so more content in one form or another would be great!

Completely agree. Hope someone from Upper Deck is reading this thread...

I just watched another video last night and saw the Alien player cards for the first time, and I didn't know that one of them was a Praetorian. That's pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egh27jJxHSk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egh27jJxHSk)

I thought all of the alien player cards looked like fun to play with as well but I have never actually gotten a chance because we always kill the facehuggers right away. I think only one time did someone actually get a chestburster, but we removed it somehow before it was drawn.

And the alien cards look like they would just make the game brutal for the normal players. The game is hard enough without some of those ridiculous abilities being played! :o

The Alien deck in this, despite looking like a tacked on after-thought, is f**king relentless. Just absolutely brutal.

I really like the idea of 'switching sides' and playing as the Alien, though yeah I imagine it probably doesn't happen very often, as most of the time you'd want to kill the facehuggers as soon as possible.

Also, the final expansion preview is up, and oh man, I guess they didn't think "quadruple strikes" for the Queen would make things difficult enough; they're adding a "Hard Mode"! :laugh: - http://upperdeckblog.com/2016/12/legendary-encounters-alien-expansion-preview-hard-mode/

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This expansion just got HARDER! These cards are insane and I can't wait to give it a go!

I agree the new stuff looks like it will be fun. I absolutely love the new drone and strike that they showed and the hard mode stuff will give interesting options for each scenario. Definitely looks like it will be harder!

So, has anyone picked this up yet? I've seen online that it's making its way into people's hands now. With just over a week to go until I can get my hands on the regular Aliens and Predator games I was hoping there might be some videos of the expansion to help tide me over until then, but there seems to be nothing so far.

I'm heading to FLGS tomorrow so will see if they have it in.

No such luck. Doesn't look like it's made it across the pond yet.

I got mine about a week ago from a special order at a local gaming store. I have only had time to open it and briefly look at a few cards and the new playmat. The queen playmat and cards look badass, but I am not sure how often I will be able to have enough people to play as the queen. I will post more when I have a chance to go through the rest of the cards and/or play it.

Hopefully will receive as a Christmas gift. Eventually will do video reviews of all the games. Again, one of the best things to come out the franchise in a while, both Alien and Predator. These games are very well done.

Look forward to seeing it.

I don't think I'm going to see this over here until after the New Year now.

Well I finally had a chance to go through all of the cards in the new expansion and play a few games. I played both of the new scenarios and they seem pretty fun. Just like before they are pretty tough and we lost both times, but I really like both of the ideas for "storylines" even though they are not based on any movies. They both seem like very Weyland-Yutani type of things.

There are a lot of new options with hard mode cards, new drones, soldier aliens and obviously the queen mother mode. In my experience we never needed the game to be harder, but it's nice that they have the options in there for people that do. The new characters for each movie seem pretty good; some have some newer things and some are just fairly basic. Again it just gives more options for what you want to use and adds more thematic elements.

There are a few new strikes as well. Watch out for the "Slow Gestation" one because it can be difficult to avoid if you have less players. My wife drew that fairly early and we couldn't avoid it and she died pretty fast. I was worried she would never play again because she doesn't like games that well in the first place, but luckily she took my suggestion of using the Alien Player deck and gleefully destroyed me.

As for Queen Mode, it looks pretty interesting after looking through the cards. And the Queen playmat is pretty bad ass as well. She has some interesting abilities and the game play should make it more similar to a regular player as opposed to the alien deck that you just kind of blindly play. Hopefully I will get to try it out sometime, but it will probably make the game much more difficult for the players and I already have a hard time getting people to play very often.

Quote from: Machiko Naguchi on Jan 05, 2017, 03:58:13 PM
Well I finally had a chance to go through all of the cards in the new expansion and play a few games. I played both of the new scenarios and they seem pretty fun. Just like before they are pretty tough and we lost both times, but I really like both of the ideas for "storylines" even though they are not based on any movies. They both seem like very Weyland-Yutani type of things.

There are a lot of new options with hard mode cards, new drones, soldier aliens and obviously the queen mother mode. In my experience we never needed the game to be harder, but it's nice that they have the options in there for people that do. The new characters for each movie seem pretty good; some have some newer things and some are just fairly basic. Again it just gives more options for what you want to use and adds more thematic elements.

There are a few new strikes as well. Watch out for the "Slow Gestation" one because it can be difficult to avoid if you have less players. My wife drew that fairly early and we couldn't avoid it and she died pretty fast. I was worried she would never play again because she doesn't like games that well in the first place, but luckily she took my suggestion of using the Alien Player deck and gleefully destroyed me.

As for Queen Mode, it looks pretty interesting after looking through the cards. And the Queen playmat is pretty bad ass as well. She has some interesting abilities and the game play should make it more similar to a regular player as opposed to the alien deck that you just kind of blindly play. Hopefully I will get to try it out sometime, but it will probably make the game much more difficult for the players and I already have a hard time getting people to play very often.

Overall sounds like you had a great time with it. I haven't picked my copy up but my wife and I play now and then (it's admittedly been a while) but I had the pleasure of getting destroyed by her with the Alien deck as well. What I really am excited about is all the new options, even if like you said, some are cool and some are basic.

I've said it before, I'll say it again. We vote for what we like with our wallets. If we want to see more expansions, we better go out and get our own copies ASAP. 

I finally got both the base Alien and Predator games for Christmas and have had several goes with them each since then, and I've really been enjoying them.

I've only won a couple of two-player/two-avatar games, but none with three players yet. It definitely gets tougher the more players you add, as people had said. It's also funny how the "obvious" mistakes you spot while watching videos of other people playing suddenly become easy to make when you're playing it yourself, like forgetting about cards with a specific thing you're supposed to do on your turn. :P One time a player escaped getting a face hugger on him because we forgot that revealing an event triggers the eggs, but so many cards had been played by that point that we decided to just let it slide. :P

From what I've played so far the Alien cards (at least for the first movie) feel a bit more powerful than the Predator ones, but there also feels like there's a big difficulty spike later on compared to Predator, which feels a bit more of an even increase in its difficulty the further into it you get. The wording is definitely a bit more ambiguous on certain cards than necessary though, like one of the Predator cards talking about 'revealing a card from the Armory and being able to play a copy of it if it's a character', despite them all being equipment, not characters, when you're playing as the Predators (after looking around on the interwebs I found that referring to that stuff as "characters" is a holdover from the Marvel games, which seems a little pointless). But thankfully that doesn't seem to crop up too often.

It feels like the key to winning with more people isn't just coordinating, but also conferring with each other about which specific cards to buy. Most of the time we were just buying whichever cards we could afford that looked good, without really paying much attention to things like class icons or which cards other players had. I can certainly imagine smarter card gaining being a big part of how you're able to be victorious more often, since we would often get to the second or third objective and then get swamped by too much stuff entering the combat zone that we just couldn't deal with.

But yeah, they're both really, really fun. I'm looking forward to playing through the rest of the movies, since I've only done about half of them so far. And it's certainly given me a new appreciation for just how tough those new "hard mode" cards in the expansion are going to be, that's for sure!

My FLGS has just ordered me the expansion in so hopefully not be too long.

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Picked up from my local this weekend.  ;D I've not tried it yet but I sorted through it. Looking forward to meeting up with Shevvie and giving it a go. Gotta order some sleeves first though!

Cool  8) I've enjoyed it so far. Let me know what you think.

ALIENS RETURN IN 'LEGENDARY ENCOUNTERS: ALIEN COVENANT' EXPANSION (https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/42826/aliens-return-in-legendary-encounters-alien-covenant-expansion)

QuoteUpper Deck revealed the next expansion for its Legendary Encounters line, Legendary Encounters: Alien Covenant, at GAMA Trade Show.  The expansion will draw content from the Alien: Covenant portion of the timeline (see "'Alien: Covenant' Trailer and Poster"), an Upper Deck spokesperson told us.

Upper Deck will release Legendary Encounters: Alien Covenant at Gen Con later this year.

I'm not going to lie...I'm super excited.

Still haven't found anywhere in NZ that stocks it long enough for me to get it, and shipping heavy ass boxes of cards internationally is a bit rich for my blood.

Not going to lie, I'm disappointed. I'd much rather they put out a Predators-featuring expansion to their Predator game before a second expansion for the Alien one; especially one revolving around Covenant.

Well that is kind of a crappy thing to make an expansion with  :-\  But I guess any new content is good since I love the game and I will still definitely be buying it right when it comes out. Actually I may be going to GenCon this year so I might be able to get it there  ;D

I would like to see some more Dark Horse based narratives, but I'm not against Covenant. David getting introduced will be good hopefully.

I got signed up to play in a demo session of the new Covenant expansion at GenCon in a couple weeks. Unfortunately I was too late to get signed up for the new Hadley's Hope board game as it was all sold out already. Might be able to at least check it out for a minute if they have it at their booth. But I will give my thoughts after I get back to let you know how everything goes  ;D

New Hadley's Hope board game?

Could be the GF9 one? That's supposed to be finally coming out.

Nice Full Page Color Ad in "Internal Correspondence" #96

"origin of terror"

Hoo boy. Lol.

So we've got Lope and David as characters. I'm really looking forward to this! This game is just fantastic.

It's great how support keeps rolling out for it. Not to mention the compatibility with other properties.

Origin of Terror lmao

Until somebody retcons it... it is.

There is wiggle room still. Ridley could change his mind lol. I'm accepting of it, but prefer the original, ancient monster.

Technically wiggle room, less so as of Covenant. I imagine Ridders is just as likely to change his mind again and do a reveal of something ancient, just because he seems to be doing it all on a whim and very open to influence/suggestions from those around him. Also might never get a third prequel and just get some kind of retcon/reboot, which may or may not itself go for the new/old concepts.

Agreed. A simple change would be that in his arrogance, David merely believed he created the alien, rather than unlocking old code.

With the murals in Prometheus, I don't think having him be that ignorant of previous incarnations would work, considering how much he claims to have studied the Engineers and the Accelerant.


However, if in his ill maintained, delusional state, something was manipulating him into resurrecting it... I could buy that.

Spoiler

It's all happened before, and will all happen again. We've got the entire life cycle here already.
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That's true. I like the arrogance idea though. There could be millions of "recipes" waiting to be discovered.

At the very least I hope the arrogance leads to his fall.

Some clear images of the card text and box here: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/43738/legendary-encounters-alien-covenant

Including a look at one of the Neomorph player cards (rather than the enemy cards). That Bloodbuster is lethal.

Yeah I was referring to the Gale Force Nine game in my post. It sounds like the scenarios for the game mostly take place in the colony so that is probably why I referred to it like that.

Yikes, that bloodburster card is painful.

As expected.

So I got to try out a demo of the Covenant expansion at Gen Con. Overall it seems pretty fun though we didn't get too far into it. If possible it seems even a little harder than the original game lol. We played for probably about 40 minutes or so and out of our five man team two were dead and the other three had 1 health each. As you noted the bloodburster card is a huge problem. Our first two turns were literally and egg sac and then an event to activate it and we had a bloodburster on turn two  >:(  We even found David in the complex and one of us got him in our deck but he wasn't able to help before we started dying. But everything I saw seemed pretty on theme for the film as far as characters, enemies, locations etc. I went ahead and bought the expansion from the Upper Deck booth but haven't yet had a chance to go through it. I did get a special promo for buying it there so my final enemy alien has the artwork pose of the alien on top of the loader ship instead of the normal generic artwork. Once I open it and go through the new stuff I can give some more info. Even though the movie may not have been the best it still looks like some cool new ideas for the game, which is great  :)

So the game was available to purchase at the con? Would love to see the promo if you can?

The expansion was rock solid too. They don't f**k about the difficulty in this game.

Yep, they had a big stack of expansions for sale at the Upper Deck booth. Not sure when exactly it comes out at retail but they were definitely prepared for the convention. Though they were pushing most of their advertisement to the Legendary James Bond game that is coming out. Everybody's badge lanyard had that logo on it and their booth even had a fancy car and you walked in through a swirl tunnel thing from the Bond logo. But after getting the expansion they did show me another of their new games that is like a suped up fantasy version of the card game War that I ended up getting as well  ;)

The promo is this image from their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/genconindy/posts/10156744569723155

Too fleshy to be perfect lol. It is an awesome image regardless..

Well the bloodburster is definitely just the beginning of the crazy shit in the Covenant expansion. I was able to finally go through all of the cards and here are some other noteworthy things:

--a hazard that puts the whole Barracks into cryosleep by wiping them and putting new ones in facedown
--a hazard that puts each player into stasis meaning they can't discuss strategy, coordinate or heal with one another
--an event that kills the top card of the barracks and then all copies everywhere (hands, decks, discard, etc.)
--several enemies that say if you draw a Close Call or Flesh Wound strike you have to draw again  :-\
--two final enemies that represent both aliens in the film; have to be killed on the lander and the terraforming bay
--after killing the final enemies you can decide if you want to finish or go ahead and try to kill David by using an added objective 3b card;
he has four different avatar cards that you randomly pick from and they all have seriously bad abilities
--similarly to the Queen Mother mode, you can play as David against the players and have your own hand and deck

On the good side there is the new Covenant keyword letting you grab another adjacent barracks card when buying one and there are several new avatar characters that seem to have decent abilities.

Haven't been able to play again since GenCon but it seems like a lot of new interesting ideas that will give varied and creative gameplay. And it definitely looks like it retains if not surpasses its previous difficulty. Overall I would definitely give it a thumbs up if you have liked the previous material for the game.

Does it have a new matt?

Nope. You just use the Queen playmat I assume since everything is pretty much the same except for being David obviously. It would be sweet to have a new David themed playmat though. Since there is no playmat it comes in a small box, pretty much the same size as the VS Alien Battles box that was also put out by Upper Deck. I think it will still fit into the original box though, I will just have to take out some of the foam blocks. Though it will make the box even heavier and it was already pretty heavy; just have to be careful when hauling it around so as not to bust the box  ;)

Speaking of extra modes, has anyone played with Queen mode, hard mode, hidden agendas or extra soldiers? I find the game very difficult just as the base game and can't imagine using any of these other things. Playing as queen/david or using agendas as a traitor seems like a very fun idea but when you can barely beat the regular game they seem kind of impractical.

I've played the queen mode. It's a wash lol. Its fun, but I feel like you get ganked pretty had. My son is the only one that will play with me and he is hell bent on getting facehugged every game so the little traitor doesn't need an agenda card. He's like his own character. The xeno picks up his aggression towards me and mows me down once it gets the alien deck in hand haha. It's been that way for about 3 years. He makes Burke seem timid.

Haha that sounds pretty rough. Bad enough with those other modes not even considering him being his own evil character. That's hilarious that he basically already has his own agenda card lol

I really want to get this game, but it looks like a new copy of the base set would be ~$150 to buy and ship. Even on the second hand ones that are inside the country already, the price is higher than I feel is reasonable for second hand cards.

Yeah he's been stabbing me in the back for 3 years. He is 11 now. He gets pouty if I kill the facehugger lol.

Cancer, what country are you in?

New Zealand.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W3FJN64

Releases on 21st of October.

 Wonderful cover.
"Don't let the bed bugs bite.
I'll tuck in the children."

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 16, 2019, 09:02:48 AM
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07W3FJN64

Releases on 21st of October.

Yeah I saw that the other day. I figured I got it a little early at GenCon but I didn't realize it was going to be that much earlier. I haven't had a chance to play any more since the demo at the convention but if anybody has any questions or wants to see pics of any of the cards I can try to help out  ;D

I'd love to see more of the enemy Neomorphs.

I vastly prefer the biomechanical look, but that is a pretty epic rendering of the fleshy version.

Here are some of the other neomorph enemies:

The term Protomorph used officially now. Huh.

Can't wait to get the Covenant expansion. Per Upper Deck's facebook page(https://www.facebook.com/LegendaryDBG/), it comes out September 25th. A lot earlier(and cheaper) than the amazon page says.

There's a youtube video out there of a full playthrough of the Covenant scenario: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVzzb45_ICw

It looks great. I'll probably watch the movie all opening week.

Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Sep 09, 2019, 01:44:08 AM
The term Protomorph used officially now. Huh.

I just f**king vomited in my mouth.

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Quote from: Machiko Naguchi on Sep 08, 2019, 11:40:45 PM
Here are some of the other neomorph enemies:

Thanks for sharing! Some really interesting looking abilities in there. Looks like it's gonna be tough!

Well crap. At least the game looks good.

I may be reaching here, but..


combining form
indicating the first in time, order, or rankprotomartyr
primitive, ancestral, or original prototype
indicating the reconstructed earliest stage of a language Proto-Germanic
indicating the first in a series of chemical compoundsprotoxide
indicating the parent of a chemical compound or an element protactinium

lol, I don't really care. It's clearly a "prototype" of sorts, regardless.

I loathe it because it came from a bullshit article that Scified published and got spread around like gospel. It gained enough traction to have just become part of the lexicon now.

Yeah I understand your perspective.

https://www.upperdeckblog.com/2019/09/legendary-encounters-alien-covenant-card-preview-1-meet-the-team/

First preview is up on the Upper Deck Blog.

Ordered my copy. And another Play Through on YT:

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And a new preview from Upper Deck: https://www.upperdeckblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/ALIEN_Covenant_AllCards-84-290x405.jpg

Last preview is up!

https://www.upperdeckblog.com/2019/10/legendary-encounters-alien-covenant-card-preview-3/

Looking good.

Very tasty.

Played through 3 games with Shevvie last night. It's as hard as the last expansion. Managed to make it to objective 3 on the first two attempts, and we managed to get one of the two final enemies before things got out of hand. Decided to try to record the third game and got killed off in the second objective. I still f**king love this game.

Glad to hear it.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 02, 2019, 05:10:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6WHbx9Tm0I

Apologies for posting on an out of date topic but would you mind telling this board game noob what sleeves you're using and where you get them?

I've just bought the base game and I really need to sleeve them but I see so many different variants online. Yours look excellent and snug!

Cheers in advance

No worries, HIA. I'd rather people resurrect than create new ones. I just use normal UltraPro sleeves.

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 13, 2020, 09:41:37 AM
No worries, HIA. I'd rather people resurrect than create new ones. I just use normal UltraPro sleeves.

Ah ok, think it's time to grab some.

....aaaand maybe the Aliens expansion too?! :P

Naturally! I liked they actually did their own story for that. And the DNA reflex mechanic they use in the Aliens expansion is really fun.

I actually just use the thin penny sleeves and they work just fine. I have seen people that use different colors for each type of card to make sorting easier: red for strikes, green for hive, blue for barracks, etc. Or there are also the official Legendary logo sleeves if you want to be fancy.

Thanks for the advice guys. I still haven't taken the plunge on the sleeves but really just looking for the best/cheapest option since there are 600 cards in the base game and 400 in the expansion!

Also somewhat unrelated - check out the Kickstarter below that starts Thursday. Nemesis is an incredible, "Alien" themed game with amazing miniatures. The first wave and original game is available as part of the Kickstarter. Highly recommended!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/awakenrealms/1897919106?ref=ek0vh3&token=dace0a50

For someone like myself who hasn't played any card games besides Star Wars Destiny, how easy/hard would it be to get into this? I've always wanted to try it but it'd just be my wife and myself playing this if I purchased it...

I think it's a pretty easy engine myself. Easy to learn. But it's sometimes quite hard if things go wrong. It's all part of the Alien feel. Honestly, I'd try and watch some gameplay videos to pick it up.

Yeah it's a very easy game to pick up and learn, and it's really, really good.

Both the Alien and Predator Legendary Encounters games were the first/only deck building games I've ever played and I love them both. They're a ton of fun, and playing the different movies (in either game) makes for great variety, though each one is also extremely replayable on its own. In the case of Alien the difficulty varies between movies as well, (Alien and Alien: Resurrection are really tough, whereas Aliens and Alien 3 are much easier) so if one keeps kicking your ass you can always just try another one instead (though it's also great to replay the tougher ones to try and beat them).

The theming is great too. They all follow the structure of their respective films, and each one has its own unique mechanics that fit with their respective films, so each one really feels like it fits what it's based on.

And I definitely wouldn't worry about not having many people to play it with. It's still great even if there's just the two of you, and it can be played solo too, so technically you don't even need anyone but yourself!

Like Hicks said it's a good idea to watch some Youtube videos to get an idea for the mechanics and the flow of the game etc., and if you like what you see then you'll definitely enjoy playing it yourself.

I agree with all of the above sentiments. It is easy to learn but hard to beat if that makes sense. Plus the deckbuilding mechanic is good to know since there are so many other cool games out there that you might end up playing that use it. And the majority of the times I have played it has only been my wife and I and it is still fun. If you have a few more people then it gets even better, but it's definitely not required. If you love the alien theme and you like games in general then I would say you should absolutely go for it  ;D

Sorry if gonna get in trouble for bringing this back. But had a question. Is the Aliens expansion worth it? How many sleeves would you say needed for this?

I ordered the base game yesterday. It came in a bundle with Covenant. Really excited for it. Especially to try solo. Since live outside town and not many friends nearby that have interest in this.

I think the expansion is worth it. More characters, and 2 new original scenarios that bring the DNA reflex into it in a fun way.

Yeah it is definitely worth getting the first expansion too. I would say its more important than the covenant one because it adds so much to the game. It adds two new scenarios and more characters to each movie as the major upgrades, but also adds more variety to things like strikes, drones and starting avatars. It also added a few things that are cool but I have not tried out such as the Queen Mother mode where you play as the queen and Hard Mode which makes the original missions even harder. I can imagine either of these things since they would make an already hard game even harder!!  :o

Quote from: Machiko Naguchi on Jun 04, 2021, 06:07:58 PM
Yeah it is definitely worth getting the first expansion too. I would say its more important than the covenant one because it adds so much to the game. It adds two new scenarios and more characters to each movie as the major upgrades, but also adds more variety to things like strikes, drones and starting avatars. It also added a few things that are cool but I have not tried out such as the Queen Mother mode where you play as the queen and Hard Mode which makes the original missions even harder. I can imagine either of these things since they would make an already hard game even harder!!  :o

On a high note, have all of the Alien Legendary Encounters arriving Tuesday. The Aliens expansion was only round $30. Not bad. Got it before it inflates in price like Predator.

Now tossing the idea round for the VS System Alien Battles. Only $15 for it.  Not bad of a deal.

Yeah, you can't argue for that. That's still around retail, I think.

Why would the price inflate? Is it out of print now?

Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Jun 07, 2021, 10:30:46 AM
Why would the price inflate? Is it out of print now?

Perhaps not, but being released more than 7 years ago, many would assume that it is out of print now. But I can tell at least through Amazon U.S. that Amazon U.S itself (not an associated vendor) still has brand new Alien Legendary Encounters stock to sell, and so does Upper Deck itself, i.e. it has yet to sell out, so no price inflation.

On the other hand, Predator Legendary Encounters appears to have sold out and now it's all about supply versus demand in the secondary market. If there are more consumers that want to buy your product than there is product, it drives the price up. And the Predator version went way up.

Perhaps Upper Deck overestimated demand during their manufacturing run for Alien and/or underestimated demand for their manufacturing run for Predator? Who knows, but that's the current state of things.  :)