Brian Wood is doing another Ripley story in May!
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-dark-horse-announces-aliens-rescue (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-dark-horse-announces-aliens-rescue)
I wonder who Alec is. A character coming up in Resistance, I guess?
Great news!
Mild spoilers in that article for Resistance.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 20, 2019, 05:16:41 PM
I wonder who Alec is. A character coming up in Resistance, I guess?
Sounds like.
I'm not overly fond of the idea of the ever-expanding Amanda Ripley chronicles (loved Isolation but it felt pretty self-contained to me, despite cliffhanger ending), but I'll probably check this out just for the hell of it. Still haven't read any of Defiance or the first issue of Resistance yet; gonna just do a big binge read of it soon to see what it is all about.
Really?
Exciting and disconcerting all at once.
Another one? Resistance has barely started. Wasn't expecting this. I look forward to it and hope that it closes off Amanda's story. It's defiantly interesting to have one writer tackle so many stories, at least he can explore his ideas to the fullest. We'll see how that ends up. Not expecting anything unbelievably great, but I'm excited to see this much media for Amanda and the franchise.
Looks like this might be a stealth ongoing like Aliens was back in the 90s, one mini after another. I'm fine with that.
Not very stealthy though is it?
At least hopefully, with the same team attached all the way through it won't go off the rails.
Resistance is still at issue 1 and they are already announcing a sequel? I don't get where they got that people are that interested on more of Amanda.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Feb 20, 2019, 04:32:00 PM
Brian Wood is doing another Ripley story in May!
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-dark-horse-announces-aliens-rescue (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/exclusive-dark-horse-announces-aliens-rescue)
HHHHHHHHHHOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo nice, keep em coming DH baby! Instant Amazon TPB Pre Order!!!!
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 20, 2019, 06:15:40 PM
Resistance is still at issue 1 and they are already announcing a sequel? I don't get where they got that people are that interested on more of Amanda.
Personally, I'd be more interested in getting the backstories of the rest of the Nostromo crew, the Sulaco Marines, and the prisoners on Fury 161. There is so much more in this universe than just the Aliens and the Ripleys.
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Feb 20, 2019, 06:48:08 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 20, 2019, 06:15:40 PM
Resistance is still at issue 1 and they are already announcing a sequel?
I don't get where they got that people are that interested in more of Amanda Ripley.
Personally, I'd be more interested in getting the backstories of the rest of the Nostromo crew, the Sulaco Marines, and the prisoners on Fury 161.
There is so much more in this universe than just the Aliens and the Ripleys.
Agreed.
Fantastic news! I'm loving that all of this content is coming out this year! Great time to be a fan!
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Feb 20, 2019, 06:48:07 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 20, 2019, 06:15:40 PM
Resistance is still at issue 1 and they are already announcing a sequel? I don't get where they got that people are that interested on more of Amanda.
Personally, I'd be more interested in getting the backstories of the rest of the Nostromo crew, the Sulaco Marines, and the prisoners on Fury 161. There is so much more in this universe than just the Aliens and the Ripleys.
Slight issue with this is, if you put 'Aliens' on the cover - readers logically expect Aliens in the book. Those sorts of stories can't include Aliens.
Correct. :-\
Who knew Amanda would wind up being the top alien expert in the family?
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Feb 20, 2019, 06:48:07 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 20, 2019, 06:15:40 PM
Resistance is still at issue 1 and they are already announcing a sequel? I don't get where they got that people are that interested on more of Amanda.
Personally, I'd be more interested in getting the backstories of the rest of the Nostromo crew, the Sulaco Marines, and the prisoners on Fury 161. There is so much more in this universe than just the Aliens and the Ripleys.
While I will always love seeing Marines/Aliens/Predators duke it out I do agree. Some comics/books expanding on other things would be great.
One of the old comics actually had Vasquez's sister. I thought that was a novel change.
This is something I have discussed with the powers that be.
Unfortunately this isn't Star Wars where you could pick any element and make a story around it that will find an audience - Jedi, Sith, rebels, empire, first order, seperatists, bounty hunters, or myriad other things.
With Alien, it needs to be tied to the creatures in some way, or failing that the USCM which is the next most popular aspect.
We had backstorys to the Covenant crew and some marines and they've generally been regarded as the weakest stories of recent times. Years ago DH press did a few books that pushed the Aliens into the background and they're not exactly fan faves either.
Where does DotS fall on that spectrum?
An entirely different wavelength.
DotS?
I guess this should go into the compiled hard cover with defiance, and resistance...
Maybe with Resistance. Wouldn't think it'd go with Defiance though.
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2019, 01:59:55 AM
Maybe with Resistance. Wouldn't think it'd go with Defiance though.
Only just started reading Defiance today (I know, late to the game) so correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this book going to be a continuation of the Defiance/Resistance story arc (even if Zula herself doesn't feature)?
Resistance and Rescue were conceived as a whole new story arc focusing on Zula and Amanda rather than just Zula like in Defiance. It's what Life & Death was to Fire & Stone.
They're really running with Amanda.
Which reminds me, does anyone know why DH were always so reluctant to put Ellen or Dutch in their Alien/Predator comics? I know Ripley's story was closed off in the movies but they could always claim alternate universes/timelines. Dutch would of course be easier to fit into a Predator comic for obvious reasons.
Is it a rights issue or a "this is sacred ground, no funnybook writers allowed?" type of thing were Fox is vetoing stories with the original characters?
They had Ripley's story (and Hicks and Newts) in the original comic run back in the late 80's then moved off into other areas.
I would assume they are doing what they can to avoid continuity errors like they ended up with after that comic run and Alien 3 killed everyone. Shaw was avoided due to avoid clashing with the sequel and there are no plans to have a story featuring David, Daniels and Tennessee. There was a sequel comic to Predators with Royce and Isabelle - and Goro Predator.
I had no idea the comics were so concerned with preserving continuty.
I guess I'm just user to cape comics where there's about a thousand different alternate universes and even in the main one canon is just a suggestion
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 20, 2019, 06:15:40 PM
Resistance is still at issue 1 and they are already announcing a sequel? I don't get where they got that people are that interested on more of Amanda.
From the reaction to her in Isolation and people wanting to know what happened to her, I imagine.
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Feb 20, 2019, 06:48:07 PM
Personally, I'd be more interested in getting the backstories of the rest of the Nostromo crew, the Sulaco Marines, and the prisoners on Fury 161. There is so much more in this universe than just the Aliens and the Ripleys.
I honestly feel that that has more place within the anthology-style stories. And we had some in Bug Hunt. Unfortunately, they just weren't great. I really enjoyed the Bishop backstory piece, though. I really don't think they have the weight to pull their own dedicated titles.
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Feb 20, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
Fantastic news! I'm loving that all of this content is coming out this year! Great time to be a fan!
Yeah, I'm really enjoying the more constant releases we've been getting over the last 4/5 years. It's no 90s golden age but it's sure better than the 00s! It helps I've largely been enjoying them too.
Quote from: SM on Feb 20, 2019, 10:17:43 PM
We had backstorys to the Covenant crew and some marines and they've generally been regarded as the weakest stories of recent times. Years ago DH press did a few books that pushed the Aliens into the background and they're not exactly fan faves either.
Which specific DH books are you thinking? I know Criminal Enterprises pushed them to the back a little but that's generally regarded as the best of the DH run.
Quote from: Postdark on Feb 21, 2019, 04:30:55 AM
Which reminds me, does anyone know why DH were always so reluctant to put Ellen or Dutch in their Alien/Predator comics? I know Ripley's story was closed off in the movies but they could always claim alternate universes/timelines. Dutch would of course be easier to fit into a Predator comic for obvious reasons.
I can't speak to the Alien-side but on the Predator I'm told it's pretty much as SM mentioned. It's to avoid any potential continuity conflicts in the future - particularly with Dutch for the Predators. They've no real concerns over Harrigan or Royce and Isabelle.
I don't see that huge appeal for Amanda Ripley's story. We all know how it ends thanks to Aliens.
Don't tell stories about anyone ever because eventually they'll die?
Quote[Which specific DH books are you thinking? I know Criminal Enterprises pushed them to the back a little but that's generally regarded as the best of the DH run.
No Exit and DNA War both pushed them to being a secondary concern. Steel Egg less so. Cauldron seemed to be the only one where the Aliens were the main focus.
I'm sure you could do Alien-less stories; I enjoyed Origins overall. I just don't know what kind of audience they're going to garner outside core fans and how you would market it. Those stories are better off in anthologies where you can have the best of both worlds.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 21, 2019, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 20, 2019, 06:15:40 PM
Resistance is still at issue 1 and they are already announcing a sequel? I don't get where they got that people are that interested on more of Amanda.
From the reaction to her in Isolation and people wanting to know what happened to her, I imagine.
To her or to the game itself? The game would still have a positive reaction if she wasn't Ripley daughter. And it worked by being an isolated event, now things are getting to a scale that I feel its too big to fit between the first 2 movies. Aliens seems to be becoming so available to WY during this period that going after Ripley on Alien 3 wouldn't even be needed. People would probably prefer another game like Isolation than other Amanda stories.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 21, 2019, 08:47:17 AM
I can't speak to the Alien-side but on the Predator I'm told it's pretty much as SM mentioned. It's to avoid any potential continuity conflicts in the future - particularly with Dutch for the Predators. They've no real concerns over Harrigan or Royce and Isabelle.
Jeff VanderMeer still managed to bring Dutch back, it was cool cameo appearance. Guess the Fox guys didn't connect the dots to who Onyx was. :D
Not sure if the synopsis has been shared yet, but the full solicitations are up.
https://www.newsarama.com/44012-dark-horse-may-2019-solicitations.html (https://www.newsarama.com/44012-dark-horse-may-2019-solicitations.html)
Spoiler
QuoteAliens: Rescue #1
Brian Wood (W), Kieran McKeown (A), JL Straw (C), Roberto De LaTorre (Cover), and Mack Chater (Variant Cover)
On sale May 22
FC, 32 pages
$3.99
Miniseries
Following the events of Aliens: Resistance, Alec Brand, the colonist rescued by Amanda Ripley and Zula Hendricks, has grown up into an elite Colonial Marine. A secret mission brings him back to the alien-infested moon where he was rescued . . . and face to face with the past.
- Written by Brian Wood of Aliens: Defiance and Aliens: Resistance.
- Find out the fate of Amanda Ripley after Aliens: Resistance.
- Zula Hendricks and Alec Brand return!
Looks like there is going to be a significant time jump between Resistance and Rescue. I wonder if Ripley has been living on the xeno-infested moon?
Spoiler
Who the hell is Alec? Is that a spoiler from the next Resistance Issues? Fells kind of the weird that they are already revealing info about a sequel before actually finishing the previous entry.
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2019, 09:17:14 PM
Don't tell stories about anyone ever because eventually they'll die?
Quote[Which specific DH books are you thinking? I know Criminal Enterprises pushed them to the back a little but that's generally regarded as the best of the DH run.
No Exit and DNA War both pushed them to being a secondary concern. Steel Egg less so. Cauldron seemed to be the only one where the Aliens were the main focus.
I'm sure you could do Alien-less stories; I enjoyed Origins overall. I just don't know what kind of audience they're going to garner outside core fans and how you would market it. Those stories are better off in anthologies where you can have the best of both worlds.
It's not about knowing they'll die. Everybody dies. It's about knowing their ultimate fate which could make for a boring story. We KNOW Amanda dies of old age, married to some guy named McLaren. For all intents and purposes, she achieves "happily ever after", so knowing the ultimate result may diminish the journey somewhat.
Or...
Burke could have been lying. The motive could have been to prevent Ripley from having any other interests other than those he put before her. Personally, I find her story compelling enough that I just want it to continue. I really enjoyed Isolation, and she was a great part of that.
Did it harm Isolation when we knew she was going to survive?
No, but records could've been falsified by the "Special Order" dudebros. We don't really know how her story ends, that's not what worries me about utilizing Amanda Ripley. It's artfully finishing a story set between Alien and Aliens, which doesn't make the latter seem absurd that worries me, or seem absurd in of itself.
Quote from: SM on Feb 22, 2019, 02:28:33 AM
Did it harm Isolation when we knew she was going to survive?
No, not at all. Just sayin'. If we're talking broad strokes, you can definitely spoil a story by knowing the ending. I thought Isolation was great. Her journey was so good, I am looking forward to reading a novelization of it, as well as watch a 7-part animated series about it. ;-)
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2019, 09:17:14 PM
No Exit and DNA War both pushed them to being a secondary concern. Steel Egg less so. Cauldron seemed to be the only one where the Aliens were the main focus.
From what I remember No Exit's problems were not a lack of Aliens but from that crazy ass last third where a fella went around beating Aliens up with his fists. That would have been the best of DH Press' run if it wasn't for that stupid last third. I remember rather enjoying Cauldron, though. I always remember that blowing through the chest trick.
QuoteI'm sure you could do Alien-less stories; I enjoyed Origins overall. I just don't know what kind of audience they're going to garner outside core fans and how you would market it. Those stories are better off in anthologies where you can have the best of both worlds.
I agree. I definitely think there's room for Alien-less stories in the Alien universe - whether that's full novels or part of anthologies. I don't even think it needs to be ET-less. I'd be curious to see novels that further expand on what Prometheus setup or see the Neomorphs explored.
Quote
I agree. I definitely think there's room for Alien-less stories in the Alien universe - whether that's full novels or part of anthologies. I don't even think it needs to be ET-less. I'd be curious to see novels that further expand on what Prometheus setup or see the Neomorphs explored.
Definitely some very interesting Xenomorph-less avenues that deserve exploring.
QuoteI remember rather enjoying Cauldron, though. I always remember that blowing through the chest trick.
Cauldron was the worst for mine. Painful characters delivering painful dialogue. The chest trick was the only positive I can remember.
DNA war lost me when the Aliens started doing cartwheels on their tails to get around.
Battle balls!
There was an Alien in the old arcade game that used to roll into battle, wasn't there?
Yes, yes there was.
Quote from: SiL on Feb 22, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
DNA war lost me when the Aliens started doing cartwheels on their tails to get around.
So you won't be wanting it back then...?
;D
Quote from: SiL on Feb 22, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
DNA war lost me when the Aliens started doing cartwheels on their tails to get around.
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The Novelisation will hopefully be good framing for how Amanda Ripley's overall story will progress and finish in these books.
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Variant cover art by Mack Chater
That's... A traced Aliens still...
Yeah I'll definitely be sticking with the regular cover.
Yeah, it's pretty much that still from Aliens.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Feb 23, 2019, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: SiL on Feb 22, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
DNA war lost me when the Aliens started doing cartwheels on their tails to get around.
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I don't know why but this makes me...uncomfortable.
@JokersWarPig
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/JR2Qz
Personally, i'm surprised how they rushed to making as much as possible out of Amanda Ripley character. Not a good sign for me.
Cause for concern? Yes, I agree.
Death sentence? No.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 26, 2019, 12:12:28 PM
Personally, i'm surprised how they rushed to making as much as possible out of Amanda Ripley character. Not a good sign for me.
Rushed? Isolation is four and half years old.
Quote from: SM on Feb 26, 2019, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 26, 2019, 12:12:28 PM
Personally, i'm surprised how they rushed to making as much as possible out of Amanda Ripley character. Not a good sign for me.
Rushed? Isolation is four and half years old.
I was talking about Blackout, Resistance and Rescue.
Even factoring in this series was first planned over a year ago - that's still three years after the game.
I don't understand how it's rushed?
Even if it was well-planed before for the sake of what these things have started to come out right now and with so small breaks between them?
It's all part of the same story, so coming out close together is part of the plan.
Exactly. Comics are supposed to come out at regular intervals. DH have often had a rep for missing deadlines, but it seems they're fairly on track at the moment.
Quote from: David's Creation on Feb 26, 2019, 11:15:43 PM
It's all part of the same story, so coming out close together is part of the plan.
Logically enough, cannot deny it. But personally i'm gonna to stay suspicious untill comics have came out.
I'm just happy that we're getting the comics at a regular interval again which hasn't happened for the longest time. I like the quicker pace.
I just view it as an ongoing that renumbers with each arc to keep sales higher (gotta get those #1s). I'm cool with that, as long as the story is good.
Not really. They're different stories that form a larger arc, not unlike Fire & Stone and Life & Death.
Quote from: Still Collating... on Feb 26, 2019, 11:28:29 PM
I'm just happy that we're getting the comics at a regular interval again which hasn't happened for the longest time. I like the quicker pace.
As long as the story and art is good they can take all the time it takes...
The key is quality.
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Feb 22, 2019, 02:21:39 AM
Quote from: SM on Feb 21, 2019, 09:17:14 PM
Don't tell stories about anyone ever because eventually they'll die?
Quote[Which specific DH books are you thinking? I know Criminal Enterprises pushed them to the back a little but that's generally regarded as the best of the DH run.
No Exit and DNA War both pushed them to being a secondary concern. Steel Egg less so. Cauldron seemed to be the only one where the Aliens were the main focus.
I'm sure you could do Alien-less stories; I enjoyed Origins overall. I just don't know what kind of audience they're going to garner outside core fans and how you would market it. Those stories are better off in anthologies where you can have the best of both worlds.
It's not about knowing they'll die. Everybody dies. It's about knowing their ultimate fate which could make for a boring story. We KNOW Amanda dies of old age, married to some guy named McLaren. For all intents and purposes, she achieves "happily ever after", so knowing the ultimate result may diminish the journey somewhat.
Or...
Burke could have been lying. The motive could have been to prevent Ripley from having any other interests other than those he put before her. Personally, I find her story compelling enough that I just want it to continue. I really enjoyed Isolation, and she was a great part of that.
I guess they could do that, but it'd make that scene a little less meaningful to Ellen's story, from what we knew at the time Amanda had a normal life, and Ellen missed it all because she was in hyper sleep for 57 years. Her marriage possible grandkids birth, etc. She missed all of this and when she finds Newt on LV-426 it makes protecting her and being called Mom all the more meaningful as she gets a second chance as being the parent she couldn't be for Amanda.
It would demean what she went through in Aliens if she did find Amanda at some point in the future. If she finds out that Amanda survived, but she misses meeting her by a slim margin somehow, that would add to the horror. That would be similar to Jeffrey Archer's Kane and Abel.
Anyway...
Alien 3 demeans everything..
::)
Incorrect.
Alien³ enhances Aliens & Alien.
As The Cold Forge & Isolation strengthens them all.
Yes I'm sure Ridley Scott and James Cameron thought Alien 3 enhanced their films.
Where's the head-shaking emoji?
Missing Amanda Ripley by a margin of error is a contrivance, a ridiculous, laughable idea.
Thank you David Fincher for Alien³'s existence, for restriction of inferior conclusions and ideas commensurate.
The author's dead anyway.
So is Ellen Ripley.
I thought you enjoyed the film -the idea it "Demeans everything" is the adverse.
???
Regardless the thread is concerning a new story (and a new character), not a old story.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 02, 2019, 05:22:50 AM
a ridiculous, laughable idea.
That hasn't stopped Ridley Scott in recent years.
Haha, yeah.
Okay maybe I'm just having a brain fart because work has been insane lately, but if this is Amanda Ripley part 3, what were part 1 and 2? Isolation and Resistance?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2019, 10:10:37 AM
Probably Isolation/Blackout/Resistance.
That's three things. :P
I'd call Rescue part 4... but I assume the OP is discounting the mobile game.
Yeah, that's why I deleted my post. :P
Quote from: David's Creation on Mar 03, 2019, 10:15:49 AM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 03, 2019, 10:10:37 AM
Probably Isolation/Blackout/Resistance.
That's three things. :P
I'd call Rescue part 4... but I assume the OP is discounting the mobile game.
I meant in the context of this thread's title.
Isolation, Blackout, (Defiance) Resistance, "Rescue" et cetera. IMO.
Quote from: The Old One on Mar 03, 2019, 01:40:46 PM
Isolation, Blackout, (Defiance) Resistance, "Rescue" et cetera. IMO.
I get that, I meant what, specifically, are parts 1 and 2 in the context of Rescue being "part 3"?
Message Ultramorph and ask him.
Anyone know when the Aliens Rescue TPB will become available for pre-order on Amazon?
Quote from: Nostromo on Mar 18, 2019, 05:16:34 PM
Anyone know when the Aliens Rescue TPB will become available for pre-order on Amazon?
I don't know, but I keep checking every few days and all I find is stuff like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Latrothian-Warrior-Book-ebook/dp/B01LZ8ERA9/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=aliens+rescue&qid=1552930735&s=gateway&sr=8-2 (https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Latrothian-Warrior-Book-ebook/dp/B01LZ8ERA9/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=aliens+rescue&qid=1552930735&s=gateway&sr=8-2)
lol!
Quote from: David's Creation on Mar 18, 2019, 05:40:18 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Mar 18, 2019, 05:16:34 PM
Anyone know when the Aliens Rescue TPB will become available for pre-order on Amazon?
I don't know, but I keep checking every few days and all I find is stuff like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Latrothian-Warrior-Book-ebook/dp/B01LZ8ERA9/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=aliens+rescue&qid=1552930735&s=gateway&sr=8-2 (https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Latrothian-Warrior-Book-ebook/dp/B01LZ8ERA9/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=aliens+rescue&qid=1552930735&s=gateway&sr=8-2)
LOL yea, same here, usually they are available within a week or so, will keep checking, can't wait for Dust to Dust to arrive in May with Resistance and x's Alien 3 TPB both coming in August. Will order it with the new Terminatr TPB, feel guilty for not getting the issues but I like TPB's better on bookshelves.
June solicitations are in. http://www.firstcomicsnews.com/dark-horse-comics-june-2019-solicitations/
I
love the cover!
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Mack Chater variant.
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Synopsis doesn't give much away.
QuoteOn sale June 19
FC, 32 pages
$3.99
Miniseries
Amanda Ripley, Zula Hendricks, and Alec Brand team up on a new mission. A classified planet houses a powerful resource that could save millions in the right hands. With Weyland-Yutani ever-threatening, will the team manage to secure the planet? Or will the alien threat overwhelm them?
That first cover is great! Love the cues from the Covenant poster.
SMH that there's still no announcement for that Doug Wheatley AVP series, though.
Solicitation also mentions trade for Resistance but says it's an August date, not June. :-\
That first cover is amazing, love it.
The default cover is "Run" esque.
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I like the run poster myslef. I actually won an AvPGalaxy contest for a large theater sized version of the poster. I got it framed and have it hanging on my wall.
The comic cover is similar but I think its actually much better than the poster that probably inspired it.
On a side note, the Conestoga-class light assault carrier sure gets around lol. So overly used in the EU :laugh:
Yeah, it's a irritation.
The Conestoga Class vessel utilisation is conventional? Yes.
But the iconography is prosaic now, the William Gibson treatment adaptation's a notorious offender.
Both covers are awesome IMO, but I'm literally in love with first one. Breathtaking! Titan, take note...
I gave up on these comics half-way through Defiance. I might buy the TPBs.
Quote from: Kradan on Feb 26, 2019, 11:11:17 PM
Even if it was well-planed before for the sake of what these things have started to come out right now and with so small breaks between them?
So you're mad because there's new Alien content coming out to fast?
Scratches head until it hurts.
Quote from: SM on Feb 26, 2019, 11:24:43 PM
Exactly. Comics are supposed to come out at regular intervals. DH have often had a rep for missing deadlines, but it seems they're fairly on track at the moment.
Exactly.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 22, 2019, 12:39:35 PM
June solicitations are in. http://www.firstcomicsnews.com/dark-horse-comics-june-2019-solicitations/
I love the cover!
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Awesome cover!!!
As usual, variant is some artistic nonsense.
Cover resembles Covenant poster. Not saying it's bad thing though.
Great cover. Style looks like Prometheus: Omega. Very detailed and realistic!
No sign of the skull. Approved.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 24, 2019, 05:45:54 AM
No sign of the skull. Approved.
Fixed it for you. :laugh:
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Oh man, that's perfect. I'm gonna have that printed off and have RidgeTop drop round to give you a framed copy, Local.
I think it's a sign of a good day when Hicks's mischievously evil side comes out.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 22, 2019, 04:04:40 PM
I like the run poster myslef. I actually won an AvPGalaxy contest for a large theater sized version of the poster. I got it framed and have it hanging on my wall.
The comic cover is similar but I think its actually much better than the poster that probably inspired it.
On a side note, the Conestoga-class light assault carrier sure gets around lol. So overly used in the EU :laugh:
I pointed out to the Powers That Be that it's probably too early for Conestogas and a slight variation would show it's not the same ship class.
My powers are weak.
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;D
https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Arathians-Nicole-Krizek-ebook/dp/B07M79ZX4J/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Alien%3A+rescue&qid=1553621388&s=books&sr=1-3
Quote from: Nostromo on Mar 26, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Arathians-Nicole-Krizek-ebook/dp/B07M79ZX4J/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Alien%3A+rescue&qid=1553621388&s=books&sr=1-3
Wat.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 26, 2019, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Mar 26, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Arathians-Nicole-Krizek-ebook/dp/B07M79ZX4J/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Alien%3A+rescue&qid=1553621388&s=books&sr=1-3
Wat.
Bay 12 please.
"With Weyland-Yutani ever-threatening"
sighs, this is getting tiresome. I know I am sounding like a broken record as well but come on, they should have a new antagonist or at least a plot that doesn't involve W-Y/some other corporation in a negative light.
It's part of a series. Why wouldn't it have the Company as a baddie?
A new foe is a refreshing idea.
But yes, it is all part of the same overarching story from Defiance, Resistance, Rescue etc.
Quote from: The Old One on Apr 03, 2019, 04:31:06 AM
A new foe is a refreshing idea.
But yes, it is all part of the same overarching story from Defiance, Resistance, Rescue etc.
Like The Rage?
Haha, no.
I ought to specify;
A new good, believable foe.
I thought the concept and execution of The Rage was actually well done. It was an interesting and new idea in the universe and was one of the best parts about the trilogy.
Hmm i think a lot about the Rage kinda sucked.
But religious extremist could work. An Alien worshipping cult like in some of the old EU stuff.
Agreed Kurgan.
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The whole Rage War trilogy sucked.
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Despite some super silly stuff the biggest complain for me was it never "felt" like Alien or Predator.The full on scifi\space opera approach just does not fit it
With religious extremists you would have villains that don't have to act too rational or half way relatable to be believable and it's way more believable that they would engage in large scale atrocities than a publicly traded company. A cult full of amoral religious nutbags that sacrifice human live without second thought is not that farfetched.
You could also have them infiltrate key positions in society to give them more influence etc.
Sounds exactly like The Rage.
Quote from: SM on Apr 03, 2019, 09:37:55 AM
Sounds exactly like The Rage.
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Minus mindcontrolled aliens, synthetic generals, arch spaceship exodus, miracle alien snails that improve their ships and tech etc... You could keep the religious angle and make it something pretty different.
Correct Kurgan.
All the nonsensical aspects discarded equals perhaps a worthy concept and believable organisation.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 26, 2019, 05:55:01 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Mar 26, 2019, 05:31:03 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Arathians-Nicole-Krizek-ebook/dp/B07M79ZX4J/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=Alien%3A+rescue&qid=1553621388&s=books&sr=1-3
Wat.
https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=aliens+rescue&i=stripbooks&rh=n%3A916520%2Cn%3A13932641&dc&qid=1555087697&rnid=927726&ref=sr_nr_n_8
Where's that TPB so I can pre-order it a year in advance, when it comes to my Aliens TPB's, I'm quite anal.
Bay 12 puhlease.
The solicitation for #3 is out:
http://www.firstcomicsnews.com/dark-horse-comics-july-2019-solicitations/ (http://www.firstcomicsnews.com/dark-horse-comics-july-2019-solicitations/)
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QuoteAliens: Rescue #3 (of 4)
Brian Wood (W), Kieran McKeown (P), JL Straw (I), Dan Jackson (C), Roberto De LaTorre (Cover), and Mack Chater (Variant Cover)
On sale July 24
FC, 32 pages
$3.99
Miniseries
The Colonial Marines are the best at what they do, and what they do is kill bugs. Amanda Ripley takes her command deep into a nightmarish Heart of Darkness—a massive Alien lair
That cover! :o
Oh sheet. That is gorgeous. Some sort of new synth?
Yeah I think that's one of the synths from Resistance #3. They're badass. I'm starting to really like the idea
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of rogue synths running experiments with no human oversight.
The covers:
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Issue 3 announced, but still no pre order for TPB...weird, no?
Finally, is this the TPB? https://www.amazon.com/Alien-Rescue-Latrothian-Warrior-Book-ebook/dp/B01LZ8ERA9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=aliens+rescue&qid=1560189839&s=gateway&sr=8-1
I'm gonna have to go with no.
There's some sort of announcement coming from Dark Horse tomorrow. Whatever it is, it has Tristan Jones covers.
https://twitter.com/alienanthology/status/1138920197237198851?s=21 (https://twitter.com/alienanthology/status/1138920197237198851?s=21)
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 12, 2019, 09:29:56 PM
There's some sort of announcement coming from Dark Horse tomorrow. Whatever it is, it has Tristan Jones covers.
https://twitter.com/alienanthology/status/1138920197237198851?s=21 (https://twitter.com/alienanthology/status/1138920197237198851?s=21)
Good stuff man thanks.
And now we know. ;D
It's nothing to do with Amanda Ripley, thankfully.
In shops on Weds....
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/MAR190274
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/MAR190275
Hope it's good.
The Aliens: Rescue TPB is now available for pre-order, only see the Kindle version on Amazon.uk though. This item will be released on February 11, 2020.
https://www.amazon.ca/Aliens-Rescue-Brian-Wood/dp/1506711278/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3CN7RA496BUB1&keywords=aliens+rescue&qid=1563809205&s=gateway&sprefix=alien+resc%2Caps%2C145&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/Aliens-Rescue-Brian-Wood/dp/1506711278/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1563809294&sr=8-2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VG4JB52/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i2
Just finished issue 1. Mostly all set up.
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Bit of Brand's upbringing, a Colonial Marines bug hunt, and orders to rendezvous with Amanda and Zula
Looking forward to the next issue.
How many years have passed since the last comic?
October solicitations are in. Covers for 4 are out.
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https://www.newsarama.com/46239-dark-horse-comics-october-2019-solicitations.html
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jul 25, 2019, 02:19:22 PM
How many years have passed since the last comic?
I'd assume like 6 years based on Alec Brand. I'd assume he was probably like 18 in Resistance and is now about 24. Just my guess though
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 25, 2019, 04:20:36 PM
October solicitations are in. Covers for 4 are out.
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https://www.newsarama.com/46239-dark-horse-comics-october-2019-solicitations.html
That's a mean cover!
The Queen cover looks awesome.
The second evokes painful memories of some of the ridiculously cartoony uberarmors from the old EU...
I do really love the fact the marines actually look the way they should in the more recent comic runs
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Jul 24, 2019, 08:17:16 PM
Just finished issue 1. Mostly all set up.
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Bit of Brand's upbringing, a Colonial Marines bug hunt, and orders to rendezvous with Amanda and Zula
Looking forward to the next issue.
That was a lot crammed into one issue but I felt it worked pretty well. Would have liked a little more of Brand being worthy of that elite status though.
I'm not sold on the art yet, but curious to see more to see whether it grows on me.
Thanks SM.
Good guess then Xiggz456!
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Liking what I'm seeing so far. Though the lack of military tactics when shooting the bugs did get an eye roll from me.
I know it's not clear yet, but I just hope they're not gonna try and make it like Amanda and Zula survived on that planet for all this time surrounded by a horde of aliens. My guess is they got picked up soon after the blast or that most aliens were destroyed while they're surviving.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 25, 2019, 07:42:42 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Jul 24, 2019, 08:17:16 PM
Just finished issue 1. Mostly all set up.
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Bit of Brand's upbringing, a Colonial Marines bug hunt, and orders to rendezvous with Amanda and Zula
Looking forward to the next issue.
That was a lot crammed into one issue but I felt it worked pretty well. Would have liked a little more of Brand being worthy of that elite status though.
I'm not sold on the art yet, but curious to see more to see whether it grows on me.
There was indeed a lot crammed into it (as was also the case with "Resistance's" first issue) probably due to the pacing of comics in general. Gotta make the issue entertaining but still set the story up right. It'd maybe be beneficial if Issue 1's were slightly longer like the final issues of F&S and L&D. That way the setup could have a bit more breathing room.
@Still Collating
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ya I'm definitely dying to know what happened with Zula and Amanda
I hope it redeems the storyline path followed thus far.
Particularly the last half of Defiance and the entirety of Resistance, tall order.
I think this first issue is a pretty good setup for the series. Hopefully the story arc delivers on the interesting first issue. The art is okay but a little toon-ish for me, kinda reminds me of Xenogenisis a little.
I was more impressed with this issue than I was with Resistance. It might be that I liked the art here a bit more. The bugs looked pretty cool, and I'm interested to see how this whole story ends up shaking out.
I finally read it and it seems like a good set up. I thought the mars bugs were interesting, a small but cool little bit of world building.
Quote from: SM on Jul 25, 2019, 08:42:44 PM
Quote from: Still Collating... on Jul 25, 2019, 02:19:22 PM
How many years have passed since the last comic?
Five.
Out of curiosity, where did this number come from? I've been scouring the Infobahn for clues but I've come up with zilcho. Is there a Brian Wood interview about Rescue that slipped through the cracks?
It gets mentioned in a later issue.
Nice! I gotta loves me some nice solid data points. As long as they steer well clear of the Unreliable Narrator shtick I'll be able to maintain my sanity.
Aliens: Rescue "2145" Boom.
Now the agonizing wait until we get more details about ACM: Rising Threat. I'm only halfway through Echo and the timeline clues are mighty spartan.
I enjoyed #2. Interesting to see them get into the politics of the corp, and opposing the privatisation that is W-Y. Feels a little at odds with the end of Defiance though.
Not digging this series' take on the Alien artwork though. I like the rest of it, though.
Who wants to bet that the migration
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is because of a Queen. I don't believe Amanda or Zula have run into one yet, have they? So they don't know about them.
I didn't even know #2 was out...gonna have to check my local spots tomorrow. For whatever reason the Alien books have been flying off the shelves in my area
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 21, 2019, 04:24:20 PM
I enjoyed #2. Interesting to see them get into the politics of the corp, and opposing the privatisation that is W-Y. Feels a little at odds with the end of Defiance though.
Not digging this series' take on the Alien artwork though. I like the rest of it, though.
Who wants to bet that the migration Spoiler
is because of a Queen. I don't believe Amanda or Zula have run into one yet, have they? So they don't know about them.
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Zula did in Defiance.
Duh! Of course. Maybe not then.
So, Rescue #2 is finally out and...
YASSSSS SO MUCH WORLD BUILDING!
I think it's safe to say I've been enthusiastically chomping at the bit for this one.
Here's a smattering of thoughts.
The ships!
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Okay, so the Sulaco's Conestoga class ships weren't commissioned until around 2169-ish. So clearly these are an earlier design iteration, possibly early Hellespont carriers or something totally different; older than the Conestoga's but not quite as old a class the janky ancient Europa which was probably contemporary with the first gen of USCMC from the turn of the century (circa 2101) and sold to the private sector after decommissioning. The class shown here is probably a subsequent generation commissioned in the 2120's, having those weird side mounted launch bays in lieu of the dual Particle Beam gun placements of the later designs.
The modified lander. I *love* the modified Lander. I can't wait to model it.
Stellar Cartography
Finally more info on this system! So um, spoiler alerts, I guess...? Well, only if you're as nerdy about this stuff as I am...
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Going back to the first issue, the advanced training on Mars is likely taking place on the Sinai or Solis Planum just South/Southeast of Camp Hanneken in the Valles Marineris.
So, apparently the 'Home Planet' is a terrestrial Super Earth with an appx diameter of 127,427.9 km (79,180mi), hopefully it's reeeeally light and porous like a marshmallow or our heroes are gonna get squished by the gravity something fierce. The system's star appears yellowish, like Sol, and given how close it is, (just a 9 day jump from Earth), this could be as close as the Rigel Kentaurus system, around either Alpha Cen A or B. But I've got some other ideas that might better fit the bill if you wanna get super nerdy about it. Also, since the clunky name 'Home Planet' sounds like something a Navi would come up with, I'm going to tentatively refer to the big world as Doren and the smaller world as the Forest Moon of Doren. A small homage to the old wook-ee/e-wok inversion from you-know-where.
This also gives us a rough size for the Forest Moon, check check it.
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Other Design nods
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I Love the turnabout design of the gun Zula offers Alec. The design aesthetic of the Sulaco was supposed to be reminiscent of a giant floating gun, and this gun seems to be reminiscent of a tiny Sulaco. Pretty rad.
The deus ex "saccus dorsualis" from the last series is apparently called a Hex Shelter. I really want one.
Regarding the timeline
In issue #1 of this series Alec mentions growing up in El Hoyo, a suburb of Mexico city, so, ostensibly Alec is from Mexican culture. Given his features from this series and the other interpretation from Resistance, it would seem to indicate that he might be Filipino. Which, if accurate, would make him the first Filipino character of the franchise, which would be pretty cool. This also likely puts the opening scenes of Resistance in Mexico city as well. Since Alec is sent away by his family upon, what is presumed to be his coming of age, this would most likely his Quince Anos, a practice gaining ever more popularity in this day and age but which would presumably be even more common in the future, making him 15 in Resistance.
The average age for Marine recruits is 18-28, so at first I figured this story probably takes place 8 (plus or minus 5 years) years after Resistance's 2140; but it could be as early at 2143 or as late as 2153.
According to this issue, back on Earth, El Hoyo was finally evacuated 5 years ago, this was some time after our heroes lifted off, but not apparently simultaneously with those scenes. A better clue about our current time is Amanda specifically referring to the meteorites falling from the Forest Moon to the blue "Home Planet" over the last *half dozen* years; a figurative term seeming to mean roughly six years, as one wouldn't presumably wouldn't describe 5 years as 'half a dozen', but could conceivably describe 7 or so years as half a dozen. So given that the meteorites were caused by Davis' nuke detonation of the W-Y blacksite. I'm gonna say this is probably 2147 or 48.
Also, unless there's some weird word bubble shenanigans happening here, which is not out of the question considering the shifting tenses and perspectives throughout, Zula is apparently also from El Hoyo. Aw, fams. <3
I'm really stoked about how this series is turning out so far, but it's really anybody's game still. When will we find out about the crazy cloaking super androids??
Rescue is five years after Resistance.
I raised the bit about it being too early in the timeline for Conestogas but they went ahead anyway.
Meh, I have no gripe with the Conestogas having been in service for a few decades by the time of Aliens.
Most of the things I raise with Fox are exceedingly nitpicky and likely to be noticed by three people. Four tops.
That doesn't matter so long as it's the right three or four people.
Quote from: SM on Aug 22, 2019, 02:12:17 AM
Rescue is five years after Resistance.
I raised the bit about it being too early in the timeline for Conestogas but they went ahead anyway.
A hard 5 raises some unnecessary and easily avoidable problems with internal consistency, but hey, whatever makes the powers that be happy. Does something pop up in a later issue that makes the timespan unambiguous or is this editorial/author intent metadata? Hey Wibbly Wobbly.
Regarding the class, just like the variant look they finally settled upon with the Europa in the latter half of Defiance, I think it's totally plausible for these to be a precursor class, similar but different, no timelines fouls necessary. I mean really, how different does the overall shape of a 1952 Mitscher-Class Destroyer look from a 1972 Spruance class Destroyer?
It brings to mind the more advanced post-Conestogas like the Tarawa and her fleet from in Three World War, kinda sleek and sexy. Those were meant to be the Bougainville's weren't they? I think I saw at least one with that hammer head design like the Marlowe in there. But I digress...
I'm really looking forward to seeing if we get any further information about where this classified star system may actually be.
The design in some of the later issues of Defiance was a mistake. Pretty sure the last issue or two corrected it back to the original design.
I also raised the five years vs. half a dozen years thing - but it's kinda close enough not to be an big issue.
Hey man, at least it's not as bad as the whole, 'Androids are designed to last up to one whole minute in a vacuum!' thing.
Trade announced for Jan 29th release: https://www.bleedingcool.com/2019/08/21/dennis-culver-justin-greenwood-crone-dark-horse-comics-november-2019-solicitations/
Just read issue 2
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Amanda and Zula are back! I loved how the artist drew Amanda while she was piloting the lander (very Ferro-esque). Also really enjoyed the art of the ships and weaponry. So the art is definitely growing on me. Also I liked the mention of the planet being "classified" as soon as it was discovered as I found it a little unlikely in the past series that such a resource rich planet could be kept hidden (especially one that's only 9 days from Earth). So I'm glad they addressed it. Really getting "Aliens" vibes from this series. Looking forward to the next issue.
Right?? You think they're going to give any clue about where these mystery planets are, or just leave things super ambiguous like these Brian Wood runs seem to like to do?
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Isn't this an odd place for a hangar bay? I thought those things were big guns.
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Also...
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Why don't the marines just use their air superiority to strafe or bomb those aliens instead of sniping them from their gunships like Sarah Palin?
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Exactly, and the number of marines for such a mission is too low.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 23, 2019, 04:02:09 AM
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Why don't the marines just use their air superiority to strafe or bomb those aliens instead of sniping them from their gunships like Sarah Palin?
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Shooting them for "fun", but I think they want to know why they're moving with purpose, based on the dialogue it doesn't seem like they've seen the aliens behave like this before
Quote from: SpaceKase on Aug 23, 2019, 01:23:36 AM
Right?? You think they're going to give any clue about where these mystery planets are, or just leave things super ambiguous like these Brian Wood runs seem to like to do?
I'd be surprised if he didn't leave it ambiguous.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 23, 2019, 04:02:09 AM
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Isn't this an odd place for a hangar bay? I thought those things were big guns.
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Also...
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Why don't the marines just use their air superiority to strafe or bomb those aliens instead of sniping them from their gunships like Sarah Palin?
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Cuz where's the fun in that haha. No but I'm certainly interested in seeing how they deal with them in the next couple of issues.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 23, 2019, 04:02:09 AM
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Isn't this an odd place for a hangar bay? I thought those things were big guns.
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Yeah, on ships like the Sulaco, built after the late 2160's, they are; secondary armament dual 800 MeV Neutral Particle Beam guns. But I guess vessels in the 40's used the side housings as Galactica-esque fighter and support craft launchers. Kinda cool, if unexpected.
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Why don't the marines just use their air superiority to strafe or bomb those aliens instead of sniping them from their gunships like Sarah Palin?
Hey man, they got one of those schmancy Weyland Storm rifles on hand, might as well use it for something if you don't have to get your hands too dirty. It'll
probably work, assuming it's not installing any new updates. But just in case, it's good to be in an aircraft far from your target, 'cause you may have to reboot the thing a couple times.
"It's not a bug, it's a feature!"::thumbs up::
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Exactly, and the number of marines for such a mission is too low.
Which begs the question of what's
really going on here.
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Obviously there's some kinda story to be filled in here about how sanctioned this whole operation is and who knows about it. We know from Defiance that at least some higher ups in the Brass are in the Company's pocket, and historically, we know there's no widespread knowledge in the military rank and file about this particular kind of bug until after the Acheron Fiasco dust up between Wey-Yu and the USMC about 34 years down the line from present. So who did Zula and Amanda have to convince in the USCMC command and how did they do it? Is this whole operation Blackops or all of our jarheads involved here rogue elements slowly gathered up over the ensuing years. Also what's the deal with these crazy ass Super Advanced Combat droids? Who are the puppet masters here?
I'm finding the artwork somewhat too cartoonish at times - it's distracting - might actually be the colouring to be honest. Way too vibrant. Prefer a muted palette. Actually McKeown's rendering of the Aliens running remind me a lot of some poses from the artwork in Harvest.
Sorry if that's sounding picky but if I compare Tristan's renderings of Zula compared to what I'm seeing now ... it's like jumping from a Capello styled Batman to a Saturday morning DC Teen Titans Go :D
Agreed, not really to my liking as well. Though it doesn't help I just reread Sacrifice.
Ya the characters are a bit too cartoony for my tastes but the ships and weaponry are drawn well.
Yeah, I did find the style shift of this series a bit jarring in the first issue. But I guess over the years, since there have been so many different takes and artistic variations among the different series, (a feature I've almost always loved about the films), that i never get too attached to one style or another since it's always bound to change again soon enough. Kinda like a big macroscopic version of Havoc parts 1&2. Chaos pizza. Sometimes horrific, always surprising, but mostly great... mostly.
Issue 2 was good, art is okay and the story is interesting. For me though its still suffering from the same problems as the Resistance.
No atmosphere, no tension.
Just bugs running around in wide open spaces and in broad daylight. Getting picked off like they are a mere nuisance. The atmosphere and dread in the first half of Defiance was some of the best in the entire EU, I need that again lol.
Quote from: SM on Aug 22, 2019, 02:53:10 AM
Most of the things I raise with Fox are exceedingly nitpicky and likely to be noticed by three people. Four tops.
:D
SM you tell me what you want to raise with Fox and I'll annoy the shit out of them.
I annoyed the shit out of them with nearly all the historical dates in the Isolation novel. But more or less won on that one. And it wasn't really annoying Fox; they generally just take my word for it and pass it up the line.
Tell them we want and AvP2 (game) remake.
Quote from: SM on Sep 04, 2019, 04:16:27 AMI annoyed the shit out of them with nearly all the historical dates in the Isolation novel. But more or less won on that one. And it wasn't really annoying Fox; they generally just take my word for it and pass it up the line.
That must be intoxicating.
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Doesn't mean people up the line pay any attention. There was a continuity error in Rescue regarding nomenclature that I'm fairly certain will get published.
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Doesn't mean people up the line pay any attention. There was a continuity error in Rescue regarding nomenclature that I'm fairly certain will get published.
Blug, it's a direct and anachronistic reference to the Conestoga class or an M41A way ahead of its time, or something, isn't it?
Nah. We'll wait and see. I don't remember which issue it was in.
We'll see, hard to redeem the series now.
So we find out what happened with Zula and Amanda at the end of Resistance. Not sure how much time was supposed to have elapsed or where
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Davis got the ship and body from
but shrug.
Curious to see where the last issue goes. I'm wondering if it's anything more than just a Queen.
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Yeah, I think there's something wrong with the colors on my issue, I'm pretty sure all those guys in the back two rows are supposed to be wearing red shirts.
Gotta go to my local after work to pick it up
My local comic shop went out of business :-[ It was a nice couple years, having one in my town.
Now i'm back to ordering online, through TFaW. :'(
I should have this issue next week sometime hopefully.
Time to buy digital?
I have some digital. Prefer tangible.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 14, 2019, 11:41:28 PM
I think it's time to stop with the physical media. Get with the times, people.
No thanks, I like things to have mass.
For games I have gone full digital by now. But the books are staying physical. I like to grab them by the pages.
Heavy books needs fewer reps.
Some cool moments of art in this final issue but story wise it's just alright. Ultimately my biggest issue of all 3 of Wood's (good riddance) stories is that he leaves too many threads unresolved. He doesn't address everything that he brought to the table.
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In Defiance we follow the "mission" of tracking xeno outbreaks to the "source" but that stops being the case after arriving at the station where Hollis is found. In Resistance we're introduced to synthetics and weaponry utilizing alien biology but no more info on that (also the multiple chestbursters and the random Xenos that were on the Gaspar prior to landing on the orbital station was completely glossed over). And in Rescue the aliens are completely uninterested in any potential hosts (issue 3) which leads one to believe that maybe the company succeeded in controlling them but no they were just migrating to an enormous egg chamber (apparently no need for hosts even though there's 3 queens which also doesn't make much sense).
Here's to hoping Dark Horse hires Mira Grant to re-write "Rising Threat".
The "mission" in Defiance stopped because Zula's back injury was deteriorating and the ship was starting to fall apart.
Obviously. But it's still a loose end.
It was my biggest problem with Defiance too. Everything is good in Defiance but I don't like to know that there are places where xenomorphs are and we don't know where ^^' Though it's a good idea to permit the creation of a lot of other stories ;D
And what is the origin of the Xenomorph in Defiance by the way ? There has never been an official explanation ? What are the theories ?
Oh, look, it was just
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Queens.
If only there was a yawn emoji.
Yeah, I've really not enjoyed Brian Wood's run on Aliens. Defiance started really interesting and just didn't feel like it really did too much. I really enjoyed Zula and Davis so I'm thankful for those characters, and I'm glad to see them in a novel now. This series feels like a whole lot of nothing too. It just always feels like lots and lots of setup, and I'm not sure we'll ever really get pay-off unless this ties into some other media.
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Obviously. But it's still a loose end.
If it's addressed in the story, then no, it's not a loose end.
With regard to where the Aliens come from in Defiance, it's not addressed nor does it need to be addressed.
But I'd lean towards Sevastopol.
Yeah Ive not been terribly thrilled with Brian Woods work. I did like Defiance, the beginning especially. I didn't like Resistance at all and Rescue was only a little better.
These events feel like they can't really be covered up anymore before Aliens either. Am I wrong or were the events of Resistance made public? Plus the USCM seems to be aware of whats been happening throughout all three series.
@SM I like Sevastopol for ground zero. What did you think of Rescue?
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 23, 2019, 09:56:35 PM
These events feel like they can't really be covered up before Aliens begins.
Yeah... I don't like that its set before Aliens.
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Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 23, 2019, 08:30:05 PM
Obviously. But it's still a loose end.
If it's addressed in the story, then no, it's not a loose end.
With regard to where the Aliens come from in Defiance, it's not addressed nor does it need to be addressed.
But I'd lean towards Sevastopol.
I think you once said it was unlikely that the aliens in Defiance came from Sevastopol. Retcon?
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@SM I like Sevastopol for ground zero. What did you think of Rescue?
That was off the top of my head. I don't remember if dates line up though. It's possible Europa left Z Doradus before any Sevastopol Aliens could've got there.
I've not read the final released copies of Rescue yet, but from the scripts it seemed a bit lacking. I
think it was supposed conclude Amanda's storyline, but it wasn't terribly satisfying. And I really liked Resistance.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 23, 2019, 09:56:35 PM
Yeah Ive not been terribly thrilled with Brian Woods work. I did like Defiance, the beginning especially. I didn't like Resistance at all and Rescue was only a little better.
These events feel like they can't really be covered up anymore before Aliens either. Am I wrong or were the events of Resistance made public? Plus the USCM seems to be aware of whats been happening throughout all three series.
Not really. The events are known by a handful of people.
That is for the station LV-44-40 and the Europa. But what about the Wright-Aberra fuel depot ?
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That is for the station LV-44-40 and the Europa. But what about the Wright-Aberra fuel depot ?
I'd say the best guess would be that the Wright-Aberra depot was infected by the Sevastopol outbreak. Although it is not said inside the comics, it's possible.
The infection began three weeks before the arrival of Zula and David, via a colony hauler. At that point in Defiance, we are after the November 11th (Amanda called Zula and told her about the Torrens) and before December 24th (Dr. Yang is trying to get Zula back by then). The first alien got loose on Sevastopol on November 12th and quarantine was established on November 18th. There is a window for the colony hauler to have been at the station at that time, leaving before 11/18 and arriving at the depot at least 3 weeks before Zula and David, so early December at the latest. It's not a comfortable window to have happened that way, but I can't explain the origin of the aliens otherwise. Thematically, the reference to Amanda, the presence of Seegson on the first issues, Davis' Working Joe look, the general technological retro-vibe point to Isolation and it wouldn't be out of place to have, within story, a common origin for the aliens too.
I suppose the aliens from LV-44-40 and the Europa came from those three ships that left the fuel depot before quarantine was established there.
About Rescue, this last issue was quite lacking. The explanation to the mysterious behavior of the aliens wasn't imaginative or satisfactory. Although it's quite a (involuntary) callback to Aliens: Earth War. ;)
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That is for the station LV-44-40 and the Europa. But what about the Wright-Aberra fuel depot ?
All the infestations were linked. So wherever the LV-44-40 Aliens came from, that's where the Wright-Aberra ones came from.
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Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 23, 2019, 10:07:04 PM
@SM I like Sevastopol for ground zero. What did you think of Rescue?
That was off the top of my head. I don't remember if dates line up though. It's possible Europa left Z Doradus before any Sevastopol Aliens could've got there.
I've not read the final released copies of Rescue yet, but from the scripts it seemed a bit lacking. I think it was supposed conclude Amanda's storyline, but it wasn't terribly satisfying. And I really liked Resistance.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Oct 23, 2019, 09:56:35 PM
Yeah Ive not been terribly thrilled with Brian Woods work. I did like Defiance, the beginning especially. I didn't like Resistance at all and Rescue was only a little better.
These events feel like they can't really be covered up anymore before Aliens either. Am I wrong or were the events of Resistance made public? Plus the USCM seems to be aware of whats been happening throughout all three series.
Not really. The events are known by a handful of people.
Agreed that it was both lacking and unsatisfying.
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Quote from: Predator@Alien on Oct 24, 2019, 06:46:23 AM
That is for the station LV-44-40 and the Europa. But what about the Wright-Aberra fuel depot ?
I'd say the best guess would be that the Wright-Aberra depot was infected by the Sevastopol outbreak. Although it is not said inside the comics, it's possible.
The infection began three weeks before the arrival of Zula and David, via a colony hauler. At that point in Defiance, we are after the November 11th (Amanda called Zula and told her about the Torrens) and before December 24th (Dr. Yang is trying to get Zula back by then). The first alien got loose on Sevastopol on November 12th and quarantine was established on November 18th. There is a window for the colony hauler to have been at the station at that time, leaving before 11/18 and arriving at the depot at least 3 weeks before Zula and David, so early December at the latest. It's not a comfortable window to have happened that way, but I can't explain the origin of the aliens otherwise. Thematically, the reference to Amanda, the presence of Seegson on the first issues, Davis' Working Joe look, the general technological retro-vibe point to Isolation and it wouldn't be out of place to have, within story, a common origin for the aliens too.
I suppose the aliens from LV-44-40 and the Europa came from those three ships that left the fuel depot before quarantine was established there.
About Rescue, this last issue was quite lacking. The explanation to the mysterious behavior of the aliens wasn't imaginative or satisfactory. Although it's quite a (involuntary) callback to Aliens: Earth War. ;)
Haha it was a bit similar to Earth War. And it was certainly unimaginative how the marines supposedly "cleaned the planet up".
Just read the final issue. That was so bland, by the numbers and the ending was extremely unsatisfying. As mentioned, so many of the previous new concepts that introduced very important stuff for the universe were just dropped and forgotten about. But you don't even need to have a story at all if you just want to show some cool action. But that was bland too. The art and coloring were meh at best. Not my cup of tea at least.
I realized that the only part of Defiance that I really liked were the parts where Tristan was involved. It was the art that got me hooked. The "recent" comics are such a mixed bag for me. Some good stuff and a lot of bland forgettable stuff. I'm not sure that the older comics had that much better stories, but the art certainly was. Even with questionable color pallets, environment and human designs, when the alien itself is done right, I'm hooked.
The newer comics try to do a more complex and eventful story but the most common 4 issue mold doesn't leave room for it to be done well. I at least IMO don't appreciate the pacing. And you can have an okay or even good story but if the art isn't well done, it ruins it for me. Defiance wasn't too rushed, but half of the art was so jarring that it pulled me out of the experience. Fire and Stone was better for me than Life and Death mostly cause of the art. Bits of Defiance, bits of Fire and Stone, Dead Orbit, Dust to Dust, all of them had really nice art, detailed depictions of the Alien and created a suitable, most often dark atmosphere that worked well with the franchise.
If I want to read a great story, I'll pick up a novel (the strongest points in the EU as of now). If I want a visual narrative, then I'll pick up a comic, which are slowly disappointing me... Either go with a simple story that can be thoroughly developed in its short 4 issue run (like Dust to Dust) or try something more elaborate when you have more issues at hand. It's very possible that I'm picky and not really a comic book guy, but if the art isn't up to par, the comic is ruined for me. That's why I'm revisiting the old comics and reading some I've never read before and being surprised at how good they actually are.
Ya I've been saying that 4 issues is just too short. Dead Orbit and Dust to Dust were exceptions and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that they're both written and illustrated by the same creator; where the art drives the narrative just as much as the text does. So hopefully we see more single creator comics series if they go the 4 issue route.
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Quote from: Predator@Alien on Oct 24, 2019, 06:46:23 AM
That is for the station LV-44-40 and the Europa. But what about the Wright-Aberra fuel depot ?
All the infestations were linked. So wherever the LV-44-40 Aliens came from, that's where the Wright-Aberra ones came from.
Oh okey, I didn't understand that, thank you ! So there is firstly the Wright-Aberra, after 3 ships plus the Europa plus LV-44-40 ? Is that right ?
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Quote from: SM on Oct 24, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: Predator@Alien on Oct 24, 2019, 06:46:23 AM
That is for the station LV-44-40 and the Europa. But what about the Wright-Aberra fuel depot ?
All the infestations were linked. So wherever the LV-44-40 Aliens came from, that's where the Wright-Aberra ones came from.
Oh okey, I didn't understand that, thank you ! So there is firstly the Wright-Aberra, after 3 ships plus the Europa plus LV-44-40 ? Is that right ?
More or less. First, it was the Wright-Aberra depot, with 3 ships leaving it, one of them (at least) infected and then docking at LV-44-40. Then the Europa leaving LV-44-40 and going for the Solar System. It's not said if the Europa was the ship coming from the fuel depot or not.
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 24, 2019, 04:49:50 PM
Ya I've been saying that 4 issues is just too short. Dead Orbit and Dust to Dust were exceptions and I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that they're both written and illustrated by the same creator; where the art drives the narrative just as much as the text does. So hopefully we see more single creator comics series if they go the 4 issue route.
That too and I would add it's also about the type of story they're actually telling. The premise was simple and the execution was done stylistically. Simple story, the space station/colony is infected, get out. From the perspective of a survivor you're not gonna try and figure out a great mystery here, you're just trying to survive and get out as quickly as possible. That works well with the format of a 4 issue story. It can be easily stretched into more issues when someone is surviving for a longer time, but in it's simplest form, it has no problem fitting to the 4 issue format. Dead Orbit did not feel rushed. Dust to Dust did not feel rushed as well ("the power of love" saving Max problem I have with that one has nothing to do with the pacing though). And cause of the pacing, it feels like these stories are complete, no real loose ends. For that, I appreciate them much more than the other recent comics I mentioned.
The four issue thing is a furphy. Nearly all the old series were four issues. It's more to do with pacing and editorial input at DH.
Yes on the pacing and editors, but even amongst the old stories there's only a handful of good ones. And it's just an opinion and a selfish one at that as I just want more Aliens content. However Gibson's A3 was a solid translation of a two hour film/audio drama and that was a 5 issue Series; so I think 5 issues (or a longer first or final issue if they do 4) would be nothing but beneficial for the narrative.
Lastly wtf is a furphy :laugh:
"A furphy is Australian slang for an erroneous or improbable story that is claimed to be factual. Furphies are supposedly 'heard' from reputable sources, sometimes secondhand or thirdhand, and widely believed until discounted."
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Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 25, 2019, 11:06:53 PM
Yes on the pacing and editors, but even amongst the old stories there's only a handful of good ones. And it's just an opinion and a selfish one at that as I just want more Aliens content. However Gibson's A3 was a solid translation of a two hour film/audio drama and that was a 5 issue Series; so I think 5 issues (or a longer first or final issue if they do 4) would be nothing but beneficial for the narrative.
Lastly wtf is a furphy :laugh:
Book2, Genocide, Labyrinth, Berserker, Stronghold, Music of the Spears, Apocalypse, AvP, AvP - Eternal - are all four issues and generally well regarded. Off the top of my head.
It's a pity nothing after the first part of Defiance is worth anyone's time.
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Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 25, 2019, 11:06:53 PM
Yes on the pacing and editors, but even amongst the old stories there's only a handful of good ones. And it's just an opinion and a selfish one at that as I just want more Aliens content. However Gibson's A3 was a solid translation of a two hour film/audio drama and that was a 5 issue Series; so I think 5 issues (or a longer first or final issue if they do 4) would be nothing but beneficial for the narrative.
Lastly wtf is a furphy :laugh:
Book2, Genocide, Labyrinth, Berserker, Stronghold, Music of the Spears, Apocalypse, AvP, AvP - Eternal - are all four issues and generally well regarded. Off the top of my head.
Well technically Labyrinth and AvP had Issue 0's (originally released as a series of shorts in DHP) and Book 2, Genocide, Berserker, and Music of the Spears all have novel counterparts that further flesh out the source material. Eternal and Apocalypse are two great examples though. However my opinion stands that an extra issue wouldn't hurt anything.
@LocalTrouble so Furphy is Australian for beer? :laugh: Thought that was Fosters' tagline!
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@LocalTrouble so Furphy is Australian for beer? :laugh: Thought that was Fosters' tagline!
I hear tell they export Foster's for a reason.
This is totally from memory and I might just be flat out misremembering, but didn't the comic issues in the past used to be 31 pages, and now they are 28?
I'm not willing to dig my old issues out to confirm, and I just buy everything as a TPB these days.
But it could explain why some of the older stories feel longer.
If its even true, but I thought I remember reading that before when this argument came up in the past that the older stuff felt more fleshed out because there was actually more content per issue.
Possibly. Possibly more writing also instead of pow pow pow beep bop.
Quote from: Kimarhi on Oct 27, 2019, 04:12:39 AM
This is totally from memory and I might just be flat out misremembering, but didn't the comic issues in the past used to be 31 pages, and now they are 28?
I'm not willing to dig my old issues out to confirm, and I just buy everything as a TPB these days.
But it could explain why some of the older stories feel longer.
If its even true, but I thought I remember reading that before when this argument came up in the past that the older stuff felt more fleshed out because there was actually more content per issue.
Rescue may have felt short because it was at 20 pages per issue.
However they've always been around the same ballpark. By way of comparison from different periods, the original Book 1 was 23 pages, Glass Corridor was 22 pages, Life and Death was 22 pages, Dust to Dust was 20, More Than Human was 22, Defiance was 22, Resistance was 20, Stalker was 20, Rising Threat would've been 20.
That was quite lazy writing, I'd say.
Especially the ending...
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Quote from: Kimarhi on Oct 27, 2019, 04:12:39 AM
This is totally from memory and I might just be flat out misremembering, but didn't the comic issues in the past used to be 31 pages, and now they are 28?
I'm not willing to dig my old issues out to confirm, and I just buy everything as a TPB these days.
But it could explain why some of the older stories feel longer.
If its even true, but I thought I remember reading that before when this argument came up in the past that the older stuff felt more fleshed out because there was actually more content per issue.
Rescue may have felt short because it was at 20 pages per issue.
However they've always been around the same ballpark. By way of comparison from different periods, the original Book 1 was 23 pages, Glass Corridor was 22 pages, Life and Death was 22 pages, Dust to Dust was 20, More Than Human was 22, Defiance was 22, Resistance was 20, Stalker was 20, Rising Threat would've been 20.
I'm not sure where that came from. Maybe somebody counted one of the old comics with more pages and compared it to one of the new ones with less, but didn't verify more than that.
Ad pages and letter columns maybe.
So does Prototype take place after Rescue?
Prototype is between Defiance and Resistance.
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 27, 2019, 10:35:27 PM
So does Prototype take place after Rescue?
Alien: Prototype takes place after Alien: Isolation and before Aliens: Resistance. Tim Waggoner explains it here (https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/excerpt-titan-books-tim-waggoner-alien-prototype-novel).
Cool thanks all!
I was flipping through issue 3 yesterday and noted they didn't fix what I thought was a pretty glaring continuity error, but I guess no one caught it, or cared enough to catch it.
Regarding nomenclature?
Yes
Is it something a filthy casual might catch or do I need intimate knowledge of the story?
Considering no one has mentioned it's in the 'only really anal stuff that I seem to catch and when no one else catches it makes me wonder why I bothered' category.
The "xenomorph" thing?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 02, 2019, 01:19:03 AM
The "xenomorph" thing?
That's what I was thinking it may be.
Was it coined before then in prior comics or in Isolation?
Davis calls them Xenomorphs in Defiance issue 1.
And they're referred to as Xenomorphs all through Prototype.
That certainly qualifies as a continuity issue regarding nomenclature.
I would've thought so.
Would it make any difference if you told them we were outraged about it?
No.
Most vexing.
I wished they'd just call everything Xenomorphs and stick to the XX121 designation for our Aliens. That's the only way I actually like them being called Xenomorphs.
This comic implies that the term was invented specifically for our aliens.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 02, 2019, 11:26:21 AM
I wished they'd just call everything Xenomorphs and stick to the XX121 designation for our Aliens. That's the only way I actually like them being called Xenomorphs.
"Xenomorphs" rolls off the tongue easier than "Ex-Ex-One-twenty-one". But then, I've always liked "Big Chap", but that's too subjective for scientific nomenclature. Oh well...
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This comic implies that the term was invented specifically for our aliens.
And that's something I hate.
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 02, 2019, 11:26:21 AM
I wished they'd just call everything Xenomorphs and stick to the XX121 designation for our Aliens. That's the only way I actually like them being called Xenomorphs.
"Xenomorphs" rolls off the tongue easier than "Ex-Ex-One-twenty-one". But then, I've always liked "Big Chap", but that's too subjective for scientific nomenclature. Oh well...
Doesn't even need to be XX121. Could just be 121. :'(
Well the series started out interesting but by the end it was just not good.
Didnt like the story or the art overall.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Nov 05, 2019, 05:16:50 PM
Well the series started out interesting but by the end it was just not good.
Didnt like the story or the art overall.
Now go read "Prototype" it's a very good palette cleanser after this story!
I thought Resistance was "meh" but Rescue managed to be even more ... well, "meh" .
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What irritates me the most surprisingly is that they litterally have dozen marines with Amanda, Zula and guy from Resistance ( whose name I can't even remember now ) but none of them IIRC spoke a single word throughout the series .
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They don't even have names.
Yep. Never thought I'd say it myself but WHAT A WASTED OPPORUNITY !
SM, is there any sort of franchise "bible" that the stories use to stay within established limits, or to know where they are so as to break them when needed? Or is it just up to the author and the story line demands?
There is a bible but it doesn't really impose limits. It's a massive document that details every story, the main characters, technology, ships, etc.
The writer produces a treatment then a draft. Editors, me and who knows who else, read it, suggests changes. Those changes get fed back to the licensee and author. Sometimes the suggestions are adopted (eg. there was a line in Prototype about an egg closing and no seams were visible. I said eggs always have visible seams, and I believe that line got tweaked) and sometimes they're not adopted (eg. earlier in this thread about the use of "Xenomorph").
Do you ever notice flaws in the bible itself and suggest revisions?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 10, 2019, 12:06:41 AM
Do you ever notice flaws in the bible itself and suggest revisions?
That is handled by Geppetto, an elderly, impoverished woodcarver.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 10, 2019, 12:06:41 AM
Do you ever notice flaws in the bible itself and suggest revisions?
No.
Have you ever voiced your opinions regarding praetorians to them?
Quote from: SM on Nov 09, 2019, 11:44:03 PM
There is a bible but it doesn't really impose limits. It's a massive document that details every story, the main characters, technology, ships, etc.
Seems like there's an intent to keep things somewhat open-ended, what with more original characters that can have their arcs that won't complicate the film characters. Avoid the whole Star Trek universe conundrum of writing oneself into a corner until a reboot was necessary just to have a little creative breathing room.
Quote from: SM on Nov 09, 2019, 11:44:03 PM
The writer produces a treatment then a draft. Editors, me and who knows who else, read it, suggests changes. Those changes get fed back to the licensee and author. Sometimes the suggestions are adopted (eg. there was a line in Prototype about an egg closing and no seams were visible. I said eggs always have visible seams, and I believe that line got tweaked) and sometimes they're not adopted (eg. earlier in this thread about the use of "Xenomorph").
Oh, and these details were very informative. Thank you.