Title: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 06, 2012, 07:07:23 AM
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 06, 2012, 07:07:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVkhNpo2pmU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVkhNpo2pmU#ws)
Discuss discus, then watch this trailer, then discuss the trailer.
Discuss discus, then watch this trailer, then discuss the trailer.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 07:19:54 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 07:19:54 AM
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Right then...
Kinda annoying that they all crack a fat about the pulse rifle, but none of the clips they feature has the right sound for it. And those shots of Picthford and Neuman putting their glasses on screams "WANK!"
Not really telling us anything new as such.
Right then...
Kinda annoying that they all crack a fat about the pulse rifle, but none of the clips they feature has the right sound for it. And those shots of Picthford and Neuman putting their glasses on screams "WANK!"
Not really telling us anything new as such.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 06, 2012, 07:55:30 AM
Post by: Space Sweeper on Aug 06, 2012, 07:55:30 AM
Yup. Not to mention that for a video titled 'Xenos vs Marines', there was a distinct lack of gameplay from the Xeno perspective. Really thought we'd be getting some of that when I saw the name.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 06, 2012, 08:03:21 AM
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 06, 2012, 08:03:21 AM
Didn't really show us anything we hadn't already seen.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Aug 06, 2012, 08:05:21 AM
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Aug 06, 2012, 08:05:21 AM
Hmm, 1:56, what is THAT!
Also the xeno at 1:58, I like the look of it, reminds me of the runner (Runner didn't have tubes though)... But why is it brown, reminds me of the Resurrection xeno...
Spoiler
Dear god no (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Fno-1.jpg&hash=27cc12fc5a5faa0804b0ae4401e51e42177d4b88)
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Also the xeno at 1:58, I like the look of it, reminds me of the runner (Runner didn't have tubes though)... But why is it brown, reminds me of the Resurrection xeno...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Dovahkiin on Aug 06, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
Post by: Dovahkiin on Aug 06, 2012, 08:54:09 AM
Looks pretty awesome.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
The GBX guys are funny. They say the PR is caseless ok, then why you implemented a cock animation every time the new mag is inserted even if there is still a bullet in the chamber? If you do that the weapon will jam because the chambered bullet can't go anywhere...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Berserker Pred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
Post by: Berserker Pred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:55:46 AM
I thought this trailer was pretty good. Got to see a few new things. It looks like there are spitter aliens at 1:13 that also have small crest heads. As for the other two new types of Xeno we saw, the brown one looks alright, just looks like a brown Giger alien and the other one with the spikes next to it's lower jaw looks awesome! Looks very fierce! The sniper looks ok but I don't think you will be needing that at all really in the game because all the combat is close to medium range.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 06, 2012, 12:18:21 PM
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 06, 2012, 12:18:21 PM
I quite like the spitters. Check out the double blade on their tails at 1:13; its shape kinda reminds me of the Derelict craft.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Stratocaster on Aug 06, 2012, 01:30:01 PM
Post by: Stratocaster on Aug 06, 2012, 01:30:01 PM
I will never forget BIA hells highway and what a mind blowing piece of garbage it was. When I watch this video the game play and graphics look way too similar. I will probably purchace this but my gut tells me its going to be a waste of money.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 06, 2012, 02:05:03 PM
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 06, 2012, 02:05:03 PM
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Aug 06, 2012, 08:05:21 AMAt 1:58, the concept artwork on the left kinda reminds me of this
Hmm, 1:56, what is THAT!Spoiler
Dear god no (https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Fno-1.jpg&hash=27cc12fc5a5faa0804b0ae4401e51e42177d4b88)[close]
Also the xeno at 1:58, I like the look of it, reminds me of the runner (Runner didn't have tubes though)... But why is it brown, reminds me of the Resurrection xeno...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/avp/promo/normal_promo01.jpg)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Remonster on Aug 06, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
Post by: Remonster on Aug 06, 2012, 02:07:19 PM
What do ya know, he took fall damage. It was nice to see some new weapons, but other than that and some new Xeno-types nothing to really write home about. I gotta say, I am excited for this game.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: DaddyYautja on Aug 06, 2012, 02:39:21 PM
Post by: DaddyYautja on Aug 06, 2012, 02:39:21 PM
those introductions are painful to watch.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 02:51:56 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 02:51:56 PM
They should make a video where they aren't shooting the aliens at all even though they have ammo. Because this video makes it look like we will have unlimited ammo crazily shooting everything that moves with no purpose. Makes me want to take off my shoe and wack someone on the head.
Too far off to tell though a real gameplay video will probably come in 3 months before release date (considering development time will last until then.). That leaves us until November or December. Shucks.
As far as design goes, I can't see shit. They move too fast in this and stuff is way to small in the field of view.
I propose they make more tense ingame scenes where we get to see these Aliens upclose and can't do anything about it.
They all look descent but should not strive away from the classic Gigeresque texturing or this man will be mad.
Too far off to tell though a real gameplay video will probably come in 3 months before release date (considering development time will last until then.). That leaves us until November or December. Shucks.
As far as design goes, I can't see shit. They move too fast in this and stuff is way to small in the field of view.
I propose they make more tense ingame scenes where we get to see these Aliens upclose and can't do anything about it.
They all look descent but should not strive away from the classic Gigeresque texturing or this man will be mad.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: newbeing on Aug 06, 2012, 02:54:53 PM
Post by: newbeing on Aug 06, 2012, 02:54:53 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Aug 06, 2012, 02:39:21 PM
those introductions are painful to watch.
Apparently Mikey Nuemann (the writer for A:CM) hates his and didn't want to do it in the first place hehe.
I'm curious to see what they mean by their method of approaching dialog for a FPS.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 06, 2012, 03:03:53 PM
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 06, 2012, 03:03:53 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 09:22:08 AM
The GBX guys are funny. They say the PR is caseless ok, then why you implemented a cock animation every time the new mag is inserted even if there is still a bullet in the chamber? If you do that the weapon will jam because the chambered bullet can't go anywhere...
Of course it could be worse. It could be like Aliens where the caseless weapon ejected casings.
One could also argue that you'd still need to work the charging handle to eject any sort of jam that occurred in the chamber. Of course if you didnt have an animation of a round ejecting the chamber when you charged the weapon, then it would be a moot point.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: XxecutionerxX on Aug 06, 2012, 03:41:35 PM
Post by: XxecutionerxX on Aug 06, 2012, 03:41:35 PM
Did anyone notice that there is a health bar now? It shows up when the player gets hurt.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 03:54:16 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 03:54:16 PM
Did anyone notice those stupid looking icons of alien heads that pop up during the mulitiplayer?
I had a hard time distinguishing what I was looking at. Its just a yelllow icon and looks like jaws and a helmet. Thats real bogus to think that aaliens are just a pair of sawtooth teeth, human jaw and big construction helmet.
BOOOOO.
I had a hard time distinguishing what I was looking at. Its just a yelllow icon and looks like jaws and a helmet. Thats real bogus to think that aaliens are just a pair of sawtooth teeth, human jaw and big construction helmet.
BOOOOO.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 03:54:27 PM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 03:54:27 PM
I noticed something great. Near 3:28 or so, the xenos are moving bipedal. Oh man this is such a relief (phew)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: DRAKE M. on Aug 06, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Post by: DRAKE M. on Aug 06, 2012, 04:04:43 PM
Pulse rifle sounds TERRIBLE!!! How hard can it be to get the sound right? It ruins the entire game!
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Aug 06, 2012, 04:10:13 PM
Post by: Never say no to Panda! on Aug 06, 2012, 04:10:13 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F666kb.com%2Fi%2Fc65lyaa4jjuan2ysw.png&hash=fdb7e43b20691cb13afb645dab47fc9c1fb4073a)
This trailer feels like THE EXPENDABLES.
This trailer feels like THE EXPENDABLES.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 04:10:29 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 04:10:29 PM
I honestly hope that the bit where the acid blood is hurting the player is from the campaign, because it looks like it DOES a shitload of damage. I really hope I'm right on this being from single player, because I love it.
Everything else in this trailer is actually ok at best. Different kinds of Xenomorphs doing different types of work? I'll buy that, as long as they actually show me that these xenos are doing work that normal xenomorphs can't afford to do. If that happens, I'll be happy.
Still going to have to explain all the other continuity issues though.
Pulse Rifle just sounds like a joke. Pitchford looks like he is about to have a heart attack every time he wants to f**king geek out. Please Pitchford, you don't need to f**king explain what these bastards are, or anything in the game, the same goes for everyone. Just talk about the game as if you're talking to the fans with no bullshit, because in all honesty these will be the MAJORITY of people that will buy this game.
Everything else in this trailer is actually ok at best. Different kinds of Xenomorphs doing different types of work? I'll buy that, as long as they actually show me that these xenos are doing work that normal xenomorphs can't afford to do. If that happens, I'll be happy.
Still going to have to explain all the other continuity issues though.
Pulse Rifle just sounds like a joke. Pitchford looks like he is about to have a heart attack every time he wants to f**king geek out. Please Pitchford, you don't need to f**king explain what these bastards are, or anything in the game, the same goes for everyone. Just talk about the game as if you're talking to the fans with no bullshit, because in all honesty these will be the MAJORITY of people that will buy this game.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: DRAKE M. on Aug 06, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
Post by: DRAKE M. on Aug 06, 2012, 04:52:50 PM
I just cut together some Pulse Rifle audio from ALIENS - Listen to it GEARBOX! You are not even close at this point!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyUAonkzrs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyUAonkzrs#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyUAonkzrs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmyUAonkzrs#ws)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Bio Mech Hunter on Aug 06, 2012, 05:10:25 PM
Post by: Bio Mech Hunter on Aug 06, 2012, 05:10:25 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 09:22:08 AMThese guys seriously need to open up a dictionary and look up the word "authentic". >:(
The GBX guys are funny. They say the PR is caseless ok, then why you implemented a cock animation every time the new mag is inserted even if there is still a bullet in the chamber? If you do that the weapon will jam because the chambered bullet can't go anywhere...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
The pulserifle sound in the movie is actually terrible to listen to. Its tinny and high end and meant for the mix of a 1986 movie. If you actually had it in your hand and recorded it today (not 1986 ) it would sound quiet different. Stop this nonsense.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 05:42:42 PM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 05:42:42 PM
Quote from: Bio Mech Hunter on Aug 06, 2012, 05:10:25 PMYes and I am not even opening the case with the mirrored rifle model. I don't mean just the ammo counter - ok, mirror it for the sake of the gameplay not a big deal. But why they mirrored the charging pull too? In the movie its on the right side, its not a big deal for the soldiers. They will just move their left hand over or under the rifle and pull it with a finger or two. In Ghost Recon Future Soldier its done right.Quote from: WinterActual on Aug 06, 2012, 09:22:08 AMThese guys seriously need to open up a dictionary and look up the word "authentic". >:(
The GBX guys are funny. They say the PR is caseless ok, then why you implemented a cock animation every time the new mag is inserted even if there is still a bullet in the chamber? If you do that the weapon will jam because the chambered bullet can't go anywhere...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 06, 2012, 05:58:50 PM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 06, 2012, 05:58:50 PM
The new "deferred lighting" seems pretty cool, how all the lights and shadows play off the environment. I like it.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WickerMan on Aug 06, 2012, 08:30:12 PM
Post by: WickerMan on Aug 06, 2012, 08:30:12 PM
So the Genetic drones from Resurrection are appearing? Sure looked like them.
The other alien concept is also very reminiscent of the Kenner scorpion Alien.
The other alien concept is also very reminiscent of the Kenner scorpion Alien.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
I'm getting this feeling that although not accurate to the first or second film at all, this game may be cool to have all these different types of Xenos, so long as the game play is diverse (not just run and shoot) and that we get a great deal of identity associated with each variation of the creature and that each xeno we encounter has a lasting feeling and great replay value strategizing to defeat each foe.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: DaddyYautja on Aug 06, 2012, 09:32:54 PM
Post by: DaddyYautja on Aug 06, 2012, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
The pulserifle sound in the movie is actually terrible to listen to. Its tinny and high end and meant for the mix of a 1986 movie. If you actually had it in your hand and recorded it today (not 1986 ) it would sound quiet different. Stop this nonsense.
It's an extremely signature sound, man.
Out of all the things they can mess up or change a bit this isnt one of them. Specially when you are going to be listening to it constantly.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 06, 2012, 09:59:52 PM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 06, 2012, 09:59:52 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Aug 06, 2012, 09:32:54 PMThe real pulse rifle sound, was used in AVP2 and it worked quite well. I really have to agree, it is such an iconic sound and like you said you'll be hearing it an awful lot, so they best get it right. I also heard somewhere that you get the real pulse rifle sound after you upgrade it, but I heard that on this forum, so really I don't know anything for sure.Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
The pulserifle sound in the movie is actually terrible to listen to. Its tinny and high end and meant for the mix of a 1986 movie. If you actually had it in your hand and recorded it today (not 1986 ) it would sound quiet different. Stop this nonsense.
It's an extremely signature sound, man.
Out of all the things they can mess up or change a bit this isnt one of them. Specially when you are going to be listening to it constantly.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: bov930527 on Aug 06, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
Post by: bov930527 on Aug 06, 2012, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 06, 2012, 09:59:52 PMQuote from: DaddyYautja on Aug 06, 2012, 09:32:54 PMThe real pulse rifle sound, was used in AVP2 and it worked quite well. I really have to agree, it is such an iconic sound and like you said you'll be hearing it an awful lot, so they best get it right. I also heard somewhere that you get the real pulse rifle sound after you upgrade it, but I heard that on this forum, so really I don't know anything for sure.Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
The pulserifle sound in the movie is actually terrible to listen to. Its tinny and high end and meant for the mix of a 1986 movie. If you actually had it in your hand and recorded it today (not 1986 ) it would sound quiet different. Stop this nonsense.
It's an extremely signature sound, man.
Out of all the things they can mess up or change a bit this isnt one of them. Specially when you are going to be listening to it constantly.
Whoa-whoa, slow down... Will it be possible to upgrade weapons in this game? So it's not just like all the other avp's, half-life and whatnot?
On topic, I too find the original sound of PR so iconic that the game claiming to be a "true" sequel to Cameron's "Aliens" simply must have it.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
The pulserifle sound in the movie is actually terrible to listen to. Its tinny and high end and meant for the mix of a 1986 movie. If you actually had it in your hand and recorded it today (not 1986 ) it would sound quiet different. Stop this nonsense.
:laugh:
It's a sound effect. If that's the sound Jim liked for the gun it would sound identical today to what it did in 1986.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 06, 2012, 10:27:47 PM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 06, 2012, 10:27:47 PM
So now there are the aliens from the new terrible comics with blades on the sides of their faces and the others are AvP aliens with a couple of lines running down their heads. Great. And yes, that is the AvP warrior in the concept art. Clearly ripped or at least inspired. Authentic my sweet white ass.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 06, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 06, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 06, 2012, 10:27:47 PM
So now there are the aliens from the new terrible comics with blades on the sides of their faces and the others are AvP aliens with a couple of lines running down their heads. Great. And yes, that is the AvP warrior in the concept art. Clearly ripped or at least inspired. Authentic my sweet white ass.
Don't they know the AVP and Rez designs were the worst.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Pitchford demands authenticity dammit!
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 10:42:41 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
The pulserifle sound in the movie is actually terrible to listen to. Its tinny and high end and meant for the mix of a 1986 movie. If you actually had it in your hand and recorded it today (not 1986 ) it would sound quiet different. Stop this nonsense.
Bingo.
I always thought one of the worst parts of Aliens was the sound of the alien screeches and weapon fire (both rifles and handguns). For being such a classic movie, the sound effects are terrible.
Edit:
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 10:07:18 PMQuote from: acrediblesource on Aug 06, 2012, 05:30:28 PM
The pulserifle sound in the movie is actually terrible to listen to. Its tinny and high end and meant for the mix of a 1986 movie. If you actually had it in your hand and recorded it today (not 1986 ) it would sound quiet different. Stop this nonsense.
:laugh:
It's a sound effect. If that's the sound Jim liked for the gun it would sound identical today to what it did in 1986.
No, not at all actually. Audio technology has come a long way since the 80s.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 10:45:34 PM
And yet people complained when the same guns in Alien3 didn't sound like the ones in Aliens.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 10:53:00 PM
I think a happy medium between quality sfx and authenticity is what GB should be striving for. It can still be "authentic" and sound good in this day and age. Doesn't have to sound like a sample from the 80s to trigger the warm fuzzies.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:02:26 PM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:02:26 PM
It does when it's really cool sound effect. All this "its from teh 80s lol" stuff is just bullshit.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:03:45 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:03:45 PM
I just find it funny how until now people are starting to hate on the Sound Effects from Aliens. Such crap.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:04:21 PM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:04:21 PM
Quite mindboggling really.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:15:18 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:02:26 PM
It does when it's really cool sound effect. All this "its from teh 80s lol" stuff is just bullshit.
Being a soundboard tech, it's my job to over-analyze sounds. It's only bullshit if you don't mind ignoring logic. There's a huge difference between the technology we have today vs. what we had back then, and it seems really, really obvious to some of us. I don't need my trained ear to know that.
That said, I haven't heard the pulse rifle sfx in ACM yet, but there's nothing wrong with expecting quality with your authenticity. I'd be pretty disappointed if ACM's Giger's alien moved as clunky as it did in the first film...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
But THAT's how it's supposed to sound in the future that ALIENS takes place in. It doesn't matter how the quality sounds like if it were done today. It sounds the way it sounds, and that's the way it should be. An iconic sound effect should not be messed around with, it's the Pulse Rifle's signature sound, how can anyone possibly actually want anything different?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Xenomorphine on Aug 06, 2012, 11:23:45 PM
Post by: Xenomorphine on Aug 06, 2012, 11:23:45 PM
"Hives of Aliens conceivably have different types of Aliens working together - and maybe in the films we didn't see all the types. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)"
Reminds me a little of when you said...
"I don't know if you've played 'Duke Nukem Forever'. It's awesome. And it occurred to me, the pacing was exactly like 'Half-Life 2'[...] It's almost identical, beat for beat, in terms of its gameplay pacing, to 'Half-Life'."
Pitchford, instead of being 'inspired' to come up with lots of different creature variations for no practical reason, just spend time on getting the basic ones right. I'm sure the people fighting to their collective deaths in Stalingrad didn't feel bored, just because the enemy were hurling the same infantry at them. If you, as a writer/artist director/whatever, can't make the situations and environments alarming enough to keep the viewer's interest riveted, then maybe you need to take a look at why that is, not replace one set of enemies with others of a slightly different shape and statistical values.
That and the 'computer text' stuff alongside it is so horridly cringe-worthy...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. A motto Gearbox seems to have been happy to gloss over, from what I've seen.
Reminds me a little of when you said...
"I don't know if you've played 'Duke Nukem Forever'. It's awesome. And it occurred to me, the pacing was exactly like 'Half-Life 2'[...] It's almost identical, beat for beat, in terms of its gameplay pacing, to 'Half-Life'."
Pitchford, instead of being 'inspired' to come up with lots of different creature variations for no practical reason, just spend time on getting the basic ones right. I'm sure the people fighting to their collective deaths in Stalingrad didn't feel bored, just because the enemy were hurling the same infantry at them. If you, as a writer/artist director/whatever, can't make the situations and environments alarming enough to keep the viewer's interest riveted, then maybe you need to take a look at why that is, not replace one set of enemies with others of a slightly different shape and statistical values.
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 07:19:54 AM
And those shots of Picthford and Neuman putting their glasses on screams "WANK!"
That and the 'computer text' stuff alongside it is so horridly cringe-worthy...
QuoteIt does when it's really cool sound effect. All this "its from teh 80s lol" stuff is just bullshit.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. A motto Gearbox seems to have been happy to gloss over, from what I've seen.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:31:42 PM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:31:42 PM
QuoteBeing a soundboard tech, it's my job to over-analyze sounds. It's only bullshit if you don't mind ignoring logic.
Logic? It's a fictional gun from 200 years in the future. :D
My own work in sound design has no bearing whatsover, on the fact that the pulse rifle sounds f**king great. It's bordering on iconic, compared to the same old (sub)machine gun noises we get in other action films.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:33:22 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:33:22 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:18:09 PM
But THAT's how it's supposed to sound in the future that ALIENS takes place in. It doesn't matter how the quality sounds like if it were done today. It sounds the way it sounds, and that's the way it should be. An iconic sound effect should not be messed around with, it's the Pulse Rifle's signature sound, how can anyone possibly actually want anything different?
If that's^ all your argument boils down to then I think it's just a matter of opinion. Some of us hear it and think about how reality plays into it, while some of us want to believe it's all cannon right down to the shitty sfx, regardless of that era's limitations. Not sure there's much more I can say here - it's all a matter of opinion.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 06, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 06, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
the quality is NOT the problem. it's the pitch, speed and lack of reverberation.
it sounds piss weak compared to the movie versions.
it sounds piss weak compared to the movie versions.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:36:33 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:36:33 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:31:42 PMWe must be having a 'real-life vs. in-movie' miscommunication. I'm over here in reality on this post as far as the sfx go.QuoteBeing a soundboard tech, it's my job to over-analyze sounds. It's only bullshit if you don't mind ignoring logic.
Logic? It's a fictional gun from 200 years in the future. :D
My own work in sound design has no bearing whatsover, on the fact that the pulse rifle sounds f**king great. It's bordering on iconic, compared to the same old (sub)machine gun noises we get in other action films.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:37:55 PM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:37:55 PM
What 'reality'? The reality of a film or computer game - both of which are fictional. ???
Yeah. It needs to sound accurate as per the film. Whether they sample it or recreate it 'so it doesn't sound all 80s' - doesn't matter. Just make it sound like it does in the film. If you have to upgrade to get to that sound - fair enough, but use the Alien3 effect as a starting point.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 06, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
the quality is NOT the problem. it's the pitch, speed and lack of reverberation.
it sounds piss weak compared to the movie versions.
Yeah. It needs to sound accurate as per the film. Whether they sample it or recreate it 'so it doesn't sound all 80s' - doesn't matter. Just make it sound like it does in the film. If you have to upgrade to get to that sound - fair enough, but use the Alien3 effect as a starting point.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Why the need to upgrade at all in the game? Aren't these Marines already equipped with even MORE shit than in Aliens?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: bov930527 on Aug 06, 2012, 11:41:40 PM
Post by: bov930527 on Aug 06, 2012, 11:41:40 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Why the need to upgrade at all in the game? Aren't these Marines already equipped with even MORE shit than in Aliens?
Where has it been confirmed that we will be able to upgrade weapons? Do they say that in one of the videos? All of you are talking about "upgrades", can anyone provide me links? I'm just really curious.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Post by: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:42:19 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Why the need to upgrade at all in the game? Aren't these Marines already equipped with even MORE shit than in Aliens?
Buggered if I know. Just what I heard.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:43:08 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:43:08 PM
Quote from: SM on Aug 06, 2012, 11:37:55 PM
What 'reality'? The reality of a film or computer game - both of which are fictional. ???Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 06, 2012, 11:34:53 PM
the quality is NOT the problem. it's the pitch, speed and lack of reverberation.
it sounds piss weak compared to the movie versions.
Yeah. It needs to sound accurate as per the film. Whether they sample it or recreate it 'so it doesn't sound all 80s' - doesn't matter. Just make it sound like it does in the film. If you have to upgrade to get to that sound - fair enough, but use the Alien3 effect as a starting point.
'atta boy. Accuracy is the keyword here. Although you'd have to "downgrade" to get the exact movie sound, but we know what you're trying to say.
Edit: upgrade weapons.. I get it. Still, I'd imagine the weakness of the original sound would probably still require a downgrade :P Then again, I know nothing about guns, not to mention pretend guns from the future.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:43:38 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:43:38 PM
Quote from: bov930527 on Aug 06, 2012, 11:41:40 PMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Why the need to upgrade at all in the game? Aren't these Marines already equipped with even MORE shit than in Aliens?
Where has it been confirmed that we will be able to upgrade weapons? Do they say that in one of the videos? All of you are talking about "upgrades", can anyone provide me links? I'm just really curious.
I've heard it on and off in this board. If there is any truth to it at all, please leave that to the multi-player only.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:49:42 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 06, 2012, 11:49:42 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:43:38 PMQuote from: bov930527 on Aug 06, 2012, 11:41:40 PMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Why the need to upgrade at all in the game? Aren't these Marines already equipped with even MORE shit than in Aliens?
Where has it been confirmed that we will be able to upgrade weapons? Do they say that in one of the videos? All of you are talking about "upgrades", can anyone provide me links? I'm just really curious.
I've heard it on and off in this board. If there is any truth to it at all, please leave that to the multi-player only.
QFE
I sure hope they aren't wasting too much time on the MP game. Games like this area all about the campaign experience.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:51:34 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:51:34 PM
And it seems like the MP is the only thing they have been showing off a lot about. Just give me another developer walk through that takes place halfway through the game, Gearbox!
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 07, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 07, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
Were all really gonna have this age old discussion of the pulse rifle sound when 2 new aliens have just been revealed?
Title: Re: \\\'Xenos vs. Marines\\\' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 12:11:53 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 12:11:53 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 07, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
Were all really gonna have this age old discussion of the pulse rifle sound when 2 new aliens have just been revealed?
So far.
Well just by looking at these new types, I'm just wondering exactly what they are supposed to do. The Giger Alien is more stealth, while the Cameron Alien is more about full on attacks. So is the one with the Razor blade mouth supposed to be more like...just attacking the player? What about the other one that has those lines running down the dome?
Gah!
Hold on, so what the hell is the one with the Double bladed tail, and what I assume to be acid spit?
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45132.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45132.0)
at 1:13.
Isn't this a third one? Because the concept art for the two we can see much more clearly don't have that tail.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Aug 07, 2012, 12:47:19 AM
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Aug 07, 2012, 12:47:19 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:43:38 PMWhen was that ever anything more than speculation? I thought someone pulled that out of their ass just to explain why the trailer sound effects were so off.Quote from: bov930527 on Aug 06, 2012, 11:41:40 PMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 06, 2012, 11:39:42 PM
Why the need to upgrade at all in the game? Aren't these Marines already equipped with even MORE shit than in Aliens?
Where has it been confirmed that we will be able to upgrade weapons? Do they say that in one of the videos? All of you are talking about "upgrades", can anyone provide me links? I'm just really curious.
I've heard it on and off in this board. If there is any truth to it at all, please leave that to the multi-player only.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 12:49:14 AM
It became speculation the moment it spread around the board. It's been said for who knows how long.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 01:14:17 AM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 01:14:17 AM
This is turning out to be the weakest argument in design philosophy.
There's nothing wrong with a unique sound in a specific movie in it's era, but when I have my subwoofer cranked and have 5.1 sound, I'm going to want something great, something similar.
I'm not playing cassette tapes on it, so Id rather not have gearbox pull a half assed fan made soundclip off the dvd dub because some moron made a YOUTUBE clip to publicly humiliate some hard working american citizens.
Some of these people on this forum should just put a James Holmes avatar on.
Thats cowardess shit.
There's nothing wrong with a unique sound in a specific movie in it's era, but when I have my subwoofer cranked and have 5.1 sound, I'm going to want something great, something similar.
I'm not playing cassette tapes on it, so Id rather not have gearbox pull a half assed fan made soundclip off the dvd dub because some moron made a YOUTUBE clip to publicly humiliate some hard working american citizens.
Some of these people on this forum should just put a James Holmes avatar on.
Thats cowardess shit.
Title: Re: \'Xenos vs. Marines\' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 01:14:44 AM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 01:14:44 AM
Yeah I think someone made that up about the pulse rifle sound changing as an upgrade.
We really don't know much about how the upgrades will work yet. The weapon/armor/appearance upgrades will transfer between singleplayer and multiplayer. So any progress made will carry over between the different modes.
I think most of us can agree that the pulse rifle should sound as close to the movie as possible. Yes it will have to fit in with modern technology, but they should be able to get the sound right. Its pretty much the most iconic weapon in ALIENS. They just released a new video and they all said its their favorite weapon.
We really don't know much about how the upgrades will work yet. The weapon/armor/appearance upgrades will transfer between singleplayer and multiplayer. So any progress made will carry over between the different modes.
I think most of us can agree that the pulse rifle should sound as close to the movie as possible. Yes it will have to fit in with modern technology, but they should be able to get the sound right. Its pretty much the most iconic weapon in ALIENS. They just released a new video and they all said its their favorite weapon.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 07, 2012, 01:35:33 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 07, 2012, 01:35:33 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 01:14:17 AM
This is turning out to be the weakest argument in design philosophy.
There's nothing wrong with a unique sound in a specific movie in it's era, but when I have my subwoofer cranked and have 5.1 sound, I'm going to want something great, something similar.
I'm not playing cassette tapes on it, so Id rather not have gearbox pull a half assed fan made soundclip off the dvd dub because some moron made a YOUTUBE clip to publicly humiliate some hard working american citizens.
Some of these people on this forum should just put a James Holmes avatar on.
Thats cowardess shit.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi50.tinypic.com%2F33cq4wg.jpg&hash=7f8143720a988b011215e83bd5312cfbe8a58781)
it sounds like shit. i don't care how many bald eagles they killed to get it right.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 07, 2012, 01:39:27 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 07, 2012, 01:39:27 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 01:14:17 AM
This is turning out to be the weakest argument in design philosophy.
There's nothing wrong with a unique sound in a specific movie in it's era, but when I have my subwoofer cranked and have 5.1 sound, I'm going to want something great, something similar.
I'm not playing cassette tapes on it, so Id rather not have gearbox pull a half assed fan made soundclip off the dvd dub because some moron made a YOUTUBE clip to publicly humiliate some hard working american citizens.
Some of these people on this forum should just put a James Holmes avatar on.
Thats cowardess shit.
:laugh:
Yeah 'cos people talking about video game = anti American mass murder.
f**kwit.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 01:46:13 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 01:46:13 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 01:14:17 AM
This is turning out to be the weakest argument in design philosophy.
There's nothing wrong with a unique sound in a specific movie in it's era, but when I have my subwoofer cranked and have 5.1 sound, I'm going to want something great, something similar.
I'm not playing cassette tapes on it, so Id rather not have gearbox pull a half assed fan made soundclip off the dvd dub because some moron made a YOUTUBE clip to publicly humiliate some hard working american citizens.
Some of these people on this forum should just put a James Holmes avatar on.
Thats cowardess shit.
James Holmes, really?
I'm sorry....but...
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 07, 2012, 01:50:48 AM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 07, 2012, 01:50:48 AM
What the above people said^ That shit isn't needed here. this is supposed to be a place to chat with likeminded folks.. and not about mass murderers. :-\
Now for the reason I came back to this thread - anyone have images of the new xeno type(s)? I'd love to see them. If my neighbor's internet wasn't so slow..
Now for the reason I came back to this thread - anyone have images of the new xeno type(s)? I'd love to see them. If my neighbor's internet wasn't so slow..
Title: Re: \\\'Xenos vs. Marines\\\' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 01:53:04 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 01:53:04 AM
Quote from: And stuff on Aug 07, 2012, 01:50:48 AM
What the above people said^ That shit isn't needed here. this is supposed to be a place to chat with likeminded folks.. and not about mass murderers. :-\
Now for the reason I came back to this thread - anyone have images of the new xeno type(s)? I'd love to see them. If my neighbor's internet wasn't so slow..
If someone hasn't already done it, I'll take screen caps right now.
Razor Blade Tail-Acid Spewing Aliens...I only say "Acid Spewing" because that's a guess.
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Razor Mouth Alien
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Funky Line Dome Alien
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I wonder if the drawing of it upside down, which is on the top right corner, is supposed to be it just camping on the ceiling waiting to strike with it's tail as the poorly photo shopped image on the left is suggesting.
And I am now wondering whether I should call it Funky Line Dome Alien, or Camper Alien.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 02:06:15 AM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 02:06:15 AM
Thank you for the Screenshots! on that note, my god is that corridor incredibly empty. There are like 4 polygons total with 2 textures. wow. I didnt travel back in time did i? Its still 2012 right?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:10:44 AM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:10:44 AM
I hope the giger alien and warrior alien are still going to be the meat and potatoes of the game, and not just a supporting cast to highlight the new alien types.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:12:55 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:12:55 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 02:06:15 AM
Thank you for the Screenshots! on that note, my god is that corridor incredibly empty. There are like 4 polygons total with 2 textures. wow. I didnt travel back in time did i? Its still 2012 right?
*Delayed until Fall 2013*
Needs to happen for that, lol.
Quote from: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:10:44 AM
I hope the giger alien and warrior alien are still going to be the meat and potatoes of the game, and not just a supporting cast to highlight the new alien types.
It would be so f**king awful if this happened.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 02:17:04 AM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 02:17:04 AM
Oh, shite, and now i got a hankerin for meat and potatoes.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:12:55 AMQuote from: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 02:06:15 AM
Thank you for the Screenshots! on that note, my god is that corridor incredibly empty. There are like 4 polygons total with 2 textures. wow. I didnt travel back in time did i? Its still 2012 right?
*Delayed until Fall 2013*
Needs to happen for that, lol.Quote from: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:10:44 AM
I hope the giger alien and warrior alien are still going to be the meat and potatoes of the game, and not just a supporting cast to highlight the new alien types.
It would be so f**king awful if this happened.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:36:45 AM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:36:45 AM
Now we have aliens with a battle axe for a tail that spit acid. What's next, a spiked ball and chain flail tail? Where does this stuff come from? Will the crusher have a cousin named the stretcher, which pulls marines apart limb by limb? The meat grinder alien, which chews up its victims into hamburger meat? Maybe we will see a street bum alien sneak out of the shadows to wash the windows on your dropship.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:41:30 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:41:30 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:36:45 AM
Maybe we will see a street bum alien sneak out of the shadows to wash the windows on your dropship.
LMFAO
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 07, 2012, 02:45:34 AM
Post by: SpaceMarines on Aug 07, 2012, 02:45:34 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:41:30 AMQuote from: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:36:45 AM
Maybe we will see a street bum alien sneak out of the shadows to wash the windows on your dropship.
LMFAO
It washes them... WITH BLOOD.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:48:37 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:48:37 AM
Acid Blood...and then it kills you.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:55:06 AM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 02:55:06 AM
Are all these new alien types available in multiplayer? Yet still no playable female marines? Lulz
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:58:54 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:58:54 AM
Not sure if they are available for multi-player yet, though I don't see why not.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 07, 2012, 03:00:28 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 07, 2012, 03:00:28 AM
Has that thing got two tails?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb57524%2Fglee%2Fimages%2F4%2F4d%2FSrsly_gtfo.gif&hash=a993d47b5a22488caa0bf9ceb08521785096703b)
EDIT- Oops - two Aliens. Didn't see the other one. Don't really mind that axe tail.
The mouth on that bottom brown one is all kinds of derp.
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EDIT- Oops - two Aliens. Didn't see the other one. Don't really mind that axe tail.
The mouth on that bottom brown one is all kinds of derp.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 07, 2012, 03:02:06 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 07, 2012, 03:02:06 AM
wonder if it can scissor shit with them.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 03:02:28 AM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2012, 03:02:28 AM
As we have seen in those screen shots. I suppose they have uniqueness to each class. ...this.
I want to take an Alien, break it's jaw off. examine it's jaw in the lab. Then I want to sample it's acidic blood and determine how to reinforce our armour to make us immune to its corrosive effects. Then I want to examine it's metabolic contents to see why it needs to eat and kill humans and develop a gaseous bomb that make their brain exhibit the effects of it already been fed. Then we can make them sleep. Then a DNA sample to determine what animal they stastically resemble the most.
The Derelict is next..the very place the company told us not to go.whose with me?
I want to take an Alien, break it's jaw off. examine it's jaw in the lab. Then I want to sample it's acidic blood and determine how to reinforce our armour to make us immune to its corrosive effects. Then I want to examine it's metabolic contents to see why it needs to eat and kill humans and develop a gaseous bomb that make their brain exhibit the effects of it already been fed. Then we can make them sleep. Then a DNA sample to determine what animal they stastically resemble the most.
The Derelict is next..the very place the company told us not to go.whose with me?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 03:10:52 AM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 03:10:52 AM
It will take time for me to digest all these new alien types. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for gearbox, so I can see why they would take advantage of it to add new aliens. Hard to resist! ;)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 03:12:17 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 03:12:17 AM
Ok, someone else seeing what I'm seeing with the Razor Blade Tail-Acid Spewing Alien, it looks like it has a dome very similar to the Queen's crown, and I think I see green bulbs or something on the sides of it too.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 03:29:35 AM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 07, 2012, 03:29:35 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 03:12:17 AMYes it was hard to tell. I paused the video but the graphics were poor. Those green bulbs might be part of how they spit acid. I hope they aren't bug eyes.
Ok, someone else seeing what I'm seeing with the Razor Blade Tail-Acid Spewing Alien, it looks like it has a dome very similar to the Queen's crown, and I think I see green bulbs or something on the sides of it too.
Strange how they strafed back and forth in a scissors fashion, yet both their tails were pointing "east." It really looked like they were coordinating attacks and working together. The same could be said about the aliens in Galaga as well, however.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:00:25 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:00:25 AM
It would be nice if they work in pairs.
Title: Re: \\\'Xenos vs. Marines\\\' Trailer
Post by: scm on Aug 07, 2012, 04:09:03 AM
Post by: scm on Aug 07, 2012, 04:09:03 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 01:53:04 AMMan that acid looks terrible.Quote from: And stuff on Aug 07, 2012, 01:50:48 AM
What the above people said^ That shit isn't needed here. this is supposed to be a place to chat with likeminded folks.. and not about mass murderers. :-\
Now for the reason I came back to this thread - anyone have images of the new xeno type(s)? I'd love to see them. If my neighbor's internet wasn't so slow..
If someone hasn't already done it, I'll take screen caps right now.
Razor Blade Tail-Acid Spewing Aliens...I only say "Acid Spewing" because that's a guess.
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Razor Mouth Alien
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Funky Line Dome Alien
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I wonder if the drawing of it upside down, which is on the top right corner, is supposed to be it just camping on the ceiling waiting to strike with it's tail as the poorly photo shopped image on the left is suggesting.
And I am now wondering whether I should call it Funky Line Dome Alien, or Camper Alien.
I'm ok with the new aliens for the most part they dont look too bad. The designs are at least better looking than the crusher.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:15:51 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:15:51 AM
Wait a sec...the acid isn't burning through anything!!!!!
PITCHFORD!!!!!!!!!!!
PITCHFORD!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 07, 2012, 04:17:43 AM
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WickerMan on Aug 07, 2012, 04:19:48 AM
Post by: WickerMan on Aug 07, 2012, 04:19:48 AM
The big problem I have about the whole "oh jee we need a ranged alien so let's make a new acid spitting one" is the fact that, like, don't we already have an acid spitting Alien? I thought the bambi aliens could spit.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:20:57 AM
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 07, 2012, 04:23:20 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 07, 2012, 04:23:20 AM
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They spat in Alien3 and Resurrection. Extrapolating from this it would suggest all Aliens can do it, but they never had cause in the first two films.
QuoteThe big problem I have about the whole "oh jee we need a ranged alien so let's make a new acid spitting one" is the fact that, like, don't we already have an acid spitting Alien? I thought the bambi aliens could spit.
They spat in Alien3 and Resurrection. Extrapolating from this it would suggest all Aliens can do it, but they never had cause in the first two films.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:24:57 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:24:57 AM
Pitchford: Now they do.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
Post by: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
1:53
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:51:41 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:51:41 AM
Quote from: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
1:53
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
No it is not the Pred-Alien. If it was...this thread would be over 50 pages long filled with ranting.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 06:48:03 AM
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 06:48:03 AM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:51:41 AM(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1228.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee450%2Fpoisonstrudel%2Fno-1.jpg&hash=27cc12fc5a5faa0804b0ae4401e51e42177d4b88)Quote from: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
1:53
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
No it is not the Pred-Alien. If it was...this thread would be over 50 pages long filled with ranting.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Jango1201 on Aug 07, 2012, 08:23:59 AM
Post by: Jango1201 on Aug 07, 2012, 08:23:59 AM
I really don't mind that design at all. They could have done a lot worse. Maybe this is their on the Praetorian?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: newbeing on Aug 07, 2012, 11:49:34 AM
Post by: newbeing on Aug 07, 2012, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 06:48:03 AMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:51:41 AMhttp://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/poisonstrudel/no-1.jpgQuote from: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
1:53
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
No it is not the Pred-Alien. If it was...this thread would be over 50 pages long filled with ranting.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloody-disgusting.com%2Fphotosizer%2Fupload%2Faliens3.jpg&hash=9f50035ef76d0316f1ccc3f86400f88dcf2b9f35) It's from the recent Aliens comic series. Not sure why they're borrowing from the comics or taking the Alien from resurrection unless weyland did some weird cloning bioresearch.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 07, 2012, 12:26:10 PM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 07, 2012, 12:26:10 PM
Are any of the new issues any good? I stopped following the comic series of Aliens long time ago. This drawing looks pretty good actually.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 07, 2012, 01:04:40 PM
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 07, 2012, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: newbeing on Aug 07, 2012, 11:49:34 AMQuote from: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 06:48:03 AMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:51:41 AMhttp://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/poisonstrudel/no-1.jpgQuote from: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
1:53
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
No it is not the Pred-Alien. If it was...this thread would be over 50 pages long filled with ranting.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloody-disgusting.com%2Fphotosizer%2Fupload%2Faliens3.jpg&hash=9f50035ef76d0316f1ccc3f86400f88dcf2b9f35) It's from the recent Aliens comic series. Not sure why they're borrowing from the comics or taking the Alien from resurrection unless weyland did some weird cloning bioresearch.
I don't read the comics, but what's the story behind that alien looking the way it does?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 07, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 07, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
The new comics are atrocious. Art, story. Everything. Predator ones too. Only thing good about either of them is the cover art.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: bobby brown on Aug 07, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
Post by: bobby brown on Aug 07, 2012, 02:46:57 PM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 07, 2012, 01:42:12 PM
The new comics are atrocious. Art, story. Everything. Predator ones too. Only thing good about either of them is the cover art.
The alien one was OK, and had great art.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: XxecutionerxX on Aug 07, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
Post by: XxecutionerxX on Aug 07, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 02:58:54 AMIt's all multiplayer footage. Take a look at the top-left corner when watching the video and you can see the kill-feed.
Not sure if they are available for multi-player yet, though I don't see why not.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 10:37:28 PM
Quote from: PsyKore on Aug 07, 2012, 01:04:40 PMA subspecies of xenomorph.Quote from: newbeing on Aug 07, 2012, 11:49:34 AMQuote from: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 06:48:03 AMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:51:41 AMhttp://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/poisonstrudel/no-1.jpgQuote from: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
1:53
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
No it is not the Pred-Alien. If it was...this thread would be over 50 pages long filled with ranting.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloody-disgusting.com%2Fphotosizer%2Fupload%2Faliens3.jpg&hash=9f50035ef76d0316f1ccc3f86400f88dcf2b9f35) It's from the recent Aliens comic series. Not sure why they're borrowing from the comics or taking the Alien from resurrection unless weyland did some weird cloning bioresearch.
I don't read the comics, but what's the story behind that alien looking the way it does?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 10:39:03 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 10:39:03 PM
So is the Queen different as well?
Because now I'm thinking that these new Xenomorphs might be coming from different hives in the 17 weeks that this game takes place after ALIENS.
Because now I'm thinking that these new Xenomorphs might be coming from different hives in the 17 weeks that this game takes place after ALIENS.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 10:42:17 PM
Post by: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 10:42:17 PM
Quote from: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 10:37:28 PMIn the comics, the Predators control them as warhound by using pheromoneQuote from: PsyKore on Aug 07, 2012, 01:04:40 PMA subspecies of xenomorph.Quote from: newbeing on Aug 07, 2012, 11:49:34 AMQuote from: alanwu1233 on Aug 07, 2012, 06:48:03 AMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 04:51:41 AMhttp://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee450/poisonstrudel/no-1.jpgQuote from: Lie on Aug 07, 2012, 04:50:54 AM
1:53
Is that the Predalien?! With the Predalien gameplay I was denied in AVP 2010! ;D
No it is not the Pred-Alien. If it was...this thread would be over 50 pages long filled with ranting.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloody-disgusting.com%2Fphotosizer%2Fupload%2Faliens3.jpg&hash=9f50035ef76d0316f1ccc3f86400f88dcf2b9f35) It's from the recent Aliens comic series. Not sure why they're borrowing from the comics or taking the Alien from resurrection unless weyland did some weird cloning bioresearch.
I don't read the comics, but what's the story behind that alien looking the way it does?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Vers on Aug 08, 2012, 01:38:17 AM
Post by: Vers on Aug 08, 2012, 01:38:17 AM
PR sound: Sounds fine when you're firing it, but it should be the original legit sounds when someone else is firing it. I didn't really hear it that well in this video.
As far as the different xeno types: It should add more strategy to the multiplayer. I agree, being a Marine I won't have a problem mowing down / dying by the same xenos. If I were inclined to be a xeno though, options are nice to plan different strategies. It will keep multiplayer interesting, it's going to (HAS) come at the cost of p*ssing off a lot of fans though.
Really until we play it and feel how it works, we're speculating that change is baaaaad. And yup, it definitely could be. We'll see... If in the end it keeps me, and lots of others on the servers, I'm all for it.
As far as the different xeno types: It should add more strategy to the multiplayer. I agree, being a Marine I won't have a problem mowing down / dying by the same xenos. If I were inclined to be a xeno though, options are nice to plan different strategies. It will keep multiplayer interesting, it's going to (HAS) come at the cost of p*ssing off a lot of fans though.
Really until we play it and feel how it works, we're speculating that change is baaaaad. And yup, it definitely could be. We'll see... If in the end it keeps me, and lots of others on the servers, I'm all for it.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 08, 2012, 04:41:58 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 08, 2012, 04:41:58 AM
The caste system doesn't really bother me. AvP2 is one of my favorite all time games, and the caste system allowed me to play as my beloved praetorian a bullet soaking sponge that shredded the head of his enemies.
More concerned about balancing and servers in mp more than anything else. Since playing a marine was suicide in AvP3 if you weren't in a marine heavy map, IF you could load a map.
I'd worry about them in SP, but since I doubt I'll accept it as canon anyways, despite the developers continued harping on this point, I don't really care.
Honestly as long as it makes some kind of contextual sense, I'll probably dig it. With prometheus entry into the franchise, I'm not sure how seriously I take the chain anymore anyways.
More concerned about balancing and servers in mp more than anything else. Since playing a marine was suicide in AvP3 if you weren't in a marine heavy map, IF you could load a map.
I'd worry about them in SP, but since I doubt I'll accept it as canon anyways, despite the developers continued harping on this point, I don't really care.
Honestly as long as it makes some kind of contextual sense, I'll probably dig it. With prometheus entry into the franchise, I'm not sure how seriously I take the chain anymore anyways.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 08, 2012, 04:46:12 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 08, 2012, 04:46:12 AM
If they had access to the Prometheus license, it'd be easy to explain all these Insta-Aliens.
I kinda doubt they do though.
Unless the hold ups are due to acquiring Prometheus IP?
I kinda doubt they do though.
Unless the hold ups are due to acquiring Prometheus IP?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 08, 2012, 05:05:02 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 08, 2012, 05:05:02 AM
I'd wager they are trying to put a little something connecting prometheus to the aliens universe even further. Perhaps WY weaponzing the black goo and using it to fertilize eggs with different kind of Aliens.
Or something.
Or something.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Jango1201 on Aug 08, 2012, 05:16:45 AM
Post by: Jango1201 on Aug 08, 2012, 05:16:45 AM
Oh dear god....
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 08, 2012, 05:18:36 AM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 08, 2012, 05:18:36 AM
They already said the game will not be connected to Prometheus.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: The Runner on Aug 08, 2012, 05:28:23 AM
Post by: The Runner on Aug 08, 2012, 05:28:23 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Aug 08, 2012, 05:18:36 AM
They already said the game will not be connected to Prometheus.
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 08, 2012, 05:35:01 AM
Post by: Kimarhi on Aug 08, 2012, 05:35:01 AM
Quote from: Predaker on Aug 08, 2012, 05:18:36 AM
They already said the game will not be connected to Prometheus.
Or this.
Since we already know at one time Cameron preferred a caste system with his Albino Aliens.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 12:18:59 PM
Post by: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 12:18:59 PM
Quote from: Vers on Aug 08, 2012, 01:38:17 AM
PR sound: Sounds fine when you're firing it, but it should be the original legit sounds when someone else is firing it. I didn't really hear it that well in this video.
My sentiments exactly, although I have never quite understood why they've been doing this. Shouldn't it sound the same from both points of view?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 08, 2012, 01:44:01 PM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 08, 2012, 01:44:01 PM
Quote from: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 12:18:59 PMNo.
Shouldn't it sound the same from both points of view?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: newbeing on Aug 08, 2012, 04:01:14 PM
Post by: newbeing on Aug 08, 2012, 04:01:14 PM
Quote from: Predaker on Aug 08, 2012, 05:18:36 AM
They already said the game will not be connected to Prometheus.
I don't know.Pitchford seems to hint that it will.
QuotePSB: Are you excited to see Prometheus? Will any of the Space Jockey lore hinted at in the film make it into Aliens: Colonial Marines?
RP: I'm very excited about Prometheus. 20th Century Fox invited us to read the script and check out production and ACM's director, Brian Martel, had a discussion with Ridley Scott about the matter years and years ago, so it's been a really interesting seat for us on this one. A bunch of our guys went out to read the script a while back. I chose to decline because I didn't want the spoilers — I can't wait to see the final film! Ridley is such a master storyteller and filmmaker and I'm thrilled that he's spending some more time in science fiction. Oh, and I haven't dodged your real question. Yes, ACM will bring you inside The Derelict on LV-426. I don't want to spoil anything, so I'll leave it at that!
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/03/randy-pitchford-talks-aliens-colonial-marines-release-date-prometheus-possibilities/ (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/02/03/randy-pitchford-talks-aliens-colonial-marines-release-date-prometheus-possibilities/)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 08, 2012, 04:30:25 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 08, 2012, 04:30:25 PM
More delays for sure once all the Engineer shit is added into the game, just wait and see, we're going to see some of them inside the damn Derelict, just watch. Possibly in stasis mode, and they'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Predaker on Aug 08, 2012, 04:30:41 PM
Post by: Predaker on Aug 08, 2012, 04:30:41 PM
^lol I wouldn't be surprised...
I could be wrong, I just remember in one of the older interviews someone said they wouldn't be connected since they happen "at different times." Vague stuff, I know. :)
I could be wrong, I just remember in one of the older interviews someone said they wouldn't be connected since they happen "at different times." Vague stuff, I know. :)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 08, 2012, 04:32:23 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 08, 2012, 04:32:23 PM
I want this to happen now just so that I could laugh at everyone complaining about it.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Novak 1334 on Aug 08, 2012, 04:34:51 PM
Post by: Novak 1334 on Aug 08, 2012, 04:34:51 PM
The smugness of Pitchford is putting me off this game
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 08, 2012, 04:57:01 PM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 08, 2012, 04:57:01 PM
The "were makin a sequel to Aliens... AS A GAME!!!!!" in literally every interview is what put me off.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 05:35:40 PM
Post by: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: WinterActual on Aug 08, 2012, 01:44:01 PMQuote from: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 12:18:59 PMNo.
Shouldn't it sound the same from both points of view?
Erm... ::) Care to elaborate? I'd understand the slight change in pitch as per a standard modern war game, but in most occurences it's valid to say it sounds like a totally different weapon.
Quote from: Sexy PootThe "were makin a sequel to Aliens... AS A GAME!!!!!" in literally every interview is what put me off.
Reluctantly agreed since I'm doing my best to keep a positive attitude. There must be bigger (and more) things to brag about by now rather than the whole 'canonical sequel' thing; especially since that whole concept seems wasted on the vast majority of the fans now considering the setting and events taken place within their game.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 08, 2012, 09:30:36 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 08, 2012, 09:30:36 PM
yeah, its puzzling. Since who the hell makes sequels in the same setting(by setting I mean 'set') as the preceeding film?
I suppose they are building the Sophora (but then every game developer builds ship interiors, its not a major effort.They could have re-used assets from previous games as reference/textures etc.)
I mean, every space combat game is set on a ship, thats not big business here. The bulk of the work should be put into programming gameplay and animations. I would be sorrily disappointing if they did not.
I suppose they are building the Sophora (but then every game developer builds ship interiors, its not a major effort.They could have re-used assets from previous games as reference/textures etc.)
I mean, every space combat game is set on a ship, thats not big business here. The bulk of the work should be put into programming gameplay and animations. I would be sorrily disappointing if they did not.
Quote from: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 05:35:40 PMQuote from: WinterActual on Aug 08, 2012, 01:44:01 PMQuote from: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 12:18:59 PMNo.
Shouldn't it sound the same from both points of view?
Erm... ::) Care to elaborate? I'd understand the slight change in pitch as per a standard modern war game, but in most occurences it's valid to say it sounds like a totally different weapon.Quote from: Sexy PootThe "were makin a sequel to Aliens... AS A GAME!!!!!" in literally every interview is what put me off.
Reluctantly agreed since I'm doing my best to keep a positive attitude. There must be bigger (and more) things to brag about by now rather than the whole 'canonical sequel' thing; especially since that whole concept seems wasted on the vast majority of the fans now considering the setting and events taken place within their game.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: newbeing on Aug 08, 2012, 09:38:39 PM
Post by: newbeing on Aug 08, 2012, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 08, 2012, 09:30:36 PM
yeah, its puzzling. Since who the hell makes sequels in the same setting(by setting I mean 'set') as the preceeding film?
I suppose they are building the Sophora (but then every game developer builds ship interiors, its not a major effort.They could have re-used assets from previous games as reference/textures etc.)
I mean, every space combat game is set on a ship, thats not big business here. The bulk of the work should be put into programming gameplay and animations. I would be sorrily disappointing if they did not.Quote from: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 05:35:40 PMQuote from: WinterActual on Aug 08, 2012, 01:44:01 PMQuote from: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 12:18:59 PMNo.
Shouldn't it sound the same from both points of view?
Erm... ::) Care to elaborate? I'd understand the slight change in pitch as per a standard modern war game, but in most occurences it's valid to say it sounds like a totally different weapon.Quote from: Sexy PootThe "were makin a sequel to Aliens... AS A GAME!!!!!" in literally every interview is what put me off.
Reluctantly agreed since I'm doing my best to keep a positive attitude. There must be bigger (and more) things to brag about by now rather than the whole 'canonical sequel' thing; especially since that whole concept seems wasted on the vast majority of the fans now considering the setting and events taken place within their game.
They have mentioned that we will be seeing areas of LV-426 that were never seen in the previous films. My guess is they're talking about the WY facility, but who knows what else they might show.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 08, 2012, 09:46:30 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 08, 2012, 09:46:30 PM
Predator Pyramid Underground, lulz.
Pitchford: "Why was the Space Jockey heading to this planet? They never said that in the films, so what we're saying, and this is canon by the way, is that the Space Jockey was transporting Xenomorph eggs to the Predator Pyramid that is underground on LV-426!"
Pitchford: "Why was the Space Jockey heading to this planet? They never said that in the films, so what we're saying, and this is canon by the way, is that the Space Jockey was transporting Xenomorph eggs to the Predator Pyramid that is underground on LV-426!"
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 09, 2012, 12:34:53 AM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 09, 2012, 12:34:53 AM
Predator my ass. They don't exist in this beeyoch.
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 08, 2012, 09:46:30 PM
Predator Pyramid Underground, lulz.
Pitchford: "Why was the Space Jockey heading to this planet? They never said that in the films, so what we're saying, and this is canon by the way, is that the Space Jockey was transporting Xenomorph eggs to the Predator Pyramid that is underground on LV-426!"
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
I sure hope not, you know how crazy that Pitchford can be.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 09, 2012, 12:42:26 AM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 09, 2012, 12:42:26 AM
You forgot to mention you just made that up! ::)
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 12:35:56 AM
Pitchford: "Why was the Space Jockey heading to this planet? They never said that in the films, so what we're saying, and this is canon by the way, is that the Space Jockey was transporting Xenomorph eggs to the Predator Pyramid that is underground on LV-426!"
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
I thought that would be obvious...but yes.
DISCLAIMER: Do not take my Pitchford jokes as fact, unless of course there is truth to them.
DISCLAIMER: Do not take my Pitchford jokes as fact, unless of course there is truth to them.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Inverse Effect on Aug 09, 2012, 01:20:23 AM
Post by: Inverse Effect on Aug 09, 2012, 01:20:23 AM
Still not impressed by the sound effects and the red blip on the motion tracker. So it looks like i'm still going to be getting the pc version
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:31:04 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:31:04 AM
Quote from: Guts on Aug 09, 2012, 01:20:23 AM
Still not impressed by the sound effects and the red blip on the motion tracker. So it looks like i'm still going to be getting the pc version
why would you even consider getting it for console?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 09, 2012, 01:35:07 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 09, 2012, 01:35:07 AM
What's the difference?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
bad controls(for a fast paced shooter), bad FOV, worse graphics, no mods, no patches, worse online community, servers with finite lifespan.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 01:59:40 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 01:59:40 AM
Already a disaster to begin with anyway.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: SM on Aug 09, 2012, 02:18:07 AM
Post by: SM on Aug 09, 2012, 02:18:07 AM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
bad controls(for a fast paced shooter), bad FOV, worse graphics, no mods, no patches, worse online community, servers with finite lifespan.
Ah. That sounds like it would cover it then.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Getting it for 360. Not paying $1000 bucks minimum to run a game. Take that PC gamers!
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Novak 1334 on Aug 09, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
Post by: Novak 1334 on Aug 09, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
360 too, providing Pitchford doesn't continue to be a douche at every opportuity
"We're making a true sequel to Aliens" (or something to that nature)
F**k off
"We're making a true sequel to Aliens" (or something to that nature)
F**k off
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 02:26:11 AM
Post by: ShadowPred on Aug 09, 2012, 02:26:11 AM
Pitchford: *grin*
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 02:27:22 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Getting it for 360. Not paying $1000 bucks minimum to run a game. Take that PC gamers!
it's only expensive because you only look for built rigs.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:30:13 AM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:30:13 AM
Been building and repairing PCs since I was 15. Couldn't be more wrong guy. ;)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: XxecutionerxX on Aug 09, 2012, 02:31:08 AM
Post by: XxecutionerxX on Aug 09, 2012, 02:31:08 AM
It's all preference really. I've been playing on PC since 2003 (AvP2 ;D) and I still prefer consoles, mainly because it's much simpler and family friendly (gotta love splitscreen fights).
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 02:33:19 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 02:33:19 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:30:13 AM
Been building and repairing PCs since I was 15. Couldn't be more wrong guy. ;)
don't go to the slum markets very often?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:58:58 AM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:58:58 AM
Not really sure what a slum market is, so im gonna have to give ya a big no on that one. :laugh:
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Aug 09, 2012, 03:21:55 AM
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Aug 09, 2012, 03:21:55 AM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Getting it for 360. Not paying $1000 bucks minimum to run a game. Take that PC gamers!
You can pay 500 and build a rig that's better than a 360, take that :p
Oh yeah...Steam Sales anyone?
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 03:24:29 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 03:24:29 AM
GABEN IS GREAT GABEN IS ONE!
GABEN ACKBAR!
GABEN ACKBAR!
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Aug 09, 2012, 03:27:01 AM
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Aug 09, 2012, 03:27:01 AM
Basically ;D That and paying 7...that's right, 7.00 USD for the ENTIRE grand theft auto series :x
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Aug 09, 2012, 05:22:13 AM
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Aug 09, 2012, 05:22:13 AM
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 09, 2012, 06:05:04 AM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 09, 2012, 06:05:04 AM
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: bov930527 on Aug 09, 2012, 07:34:28 AM
Post by: bov930527 on Aug 09, 2012, 07:34:28 AM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
bad controls(for a fast paced shooter), bad FOV, worse graphics, no mods, no patches, worse online community, servers with finite lifespan.
1. Actually, I rather prefer console controls for shooters. I f*ckin hate mouse.
2. I'd say the FOV is pretty much the same.
3. Most computers with standard graphics-card pretty much have same quality as a console on a good tv.
4. Why would I need mods? The game is supposed to be fun itself. I hate when people mod games for sh*ts and giggles, it ruins the entire seriousness of games. Especially this game. Who would ever take this game as canon if there is going to be a mod that gives your player a clown-skin?
5. You can get patches and updates on Xbox Live (I guess same goes for PS3)?
6. Dunno about online community, never really bothered me (although I do mostly play with people I know).
7. First time I hear that about servers, but okay...
And most important of all:
8. I have a guarantee that it will work and that there wont be any lag.
I can agree that first seven points outline opinion rather than practical issues, but the last one is indeed of importance and what I would consider the most obvious reason as to why many people buy shooters for their console rather than PC. On a comp you pretty much have to buy a new graphics-/sound-/whatever-card every 2-3 years. And they must be compatible and all that crap, or else you'll get errors or lag. Buying a console ensures you ability to play any game for many years without lag and without need to spend money on additional stuff.
Just my 0.02$
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Ash 937 on Aug 09, 2012, 07:39:23 AM
Post by: Ash 937 on Aug 09, 2012, 07:39:23 AM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
bad controls(for a fast paced shooter), bad FOV, worse graphics, no mods, no patches, worse online community, servers with finite lifespan.
Maybe. But consoles are where the money's at these days. A:CM is being developed with the 360 and PS3 in mind first and then it will be ported to the PC...even though, I admit, a better and more powerful game could be built out of A:CM if it was the other way around. Out of the box however, all the PC game will sport is a higher resolution.
Right now there is no way to prove that the PC version will have better controls, more patches, a better online user base, or servers with longer lifespans. That's just speculation.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Aug 09, 2012, 02:54:45 PM
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Aug 09, 2012, 02:54:45 PM
Quote from: bov930527 on Aug 09, 2012, 07:34:28 AMQuote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 09, 2012, 01:58:36 AM
bad controls(for a fast paced shooter), bad FOV, worse graphics, no mods, no patches, worse online community, servers with finite lifespan.
1. Actually, I rather prefer console controls for shooters. I f*ckin hate mouse.
2. I'd say the FOV is pretty much the same.
3. Most computers with standard graphics-card pretty much have same quality as a console on a good tv.
4. Why would I need mods? The game is supposed to be fun itself. I hate when people mod games for sh*ts and giggles, it ruins the entire seriousness of games. Especially this game. Who would ever take this game as canon if there is going to be a mod that gives your player a clown-skin?
5. You can get patches and updates on Xbox Live (I guess same goes for PS3)?
6. Dunno about online community, never really bothered me (although I do mostly play with people I know).
7. First time I hear that about servers, but okay...
And most important of all:
8. I have a guarantee that it will work and that there wont be any lag.
I can agree that first seven points outline opinion rather than practical issues, but the last one is indeed of importance and what I would consider the most obvious reason as to why many people buy shooters for their console rather than PC. On a comp you pretty much have to buy a new graphics-/sound-/whatever-card every 2-3 years. And they must be compatible and all that crap, or else you'll get errors or lag. Buying a console ensures you ability to play any game for many years without lag and without need to spend money on additional stuff.
Just my 0.02$
QuoteWhy would I need mods? The game is supposed to be fun itself. I hate when people mod games for sh*ts and giggles, it ruins the entire seriousness of games. Especially this game. Who would ever take this game as canon if there is going to be a mod that gives your player a clown-skin?
For replayability so the game lasts longer.
QuoteMost computers with standard graphics-card pretty much have same quality as a console on a good tv.I get what you mean, but most console games in '1080p' are actually 720p upscaled. Ultra-resolution antialiasing isn't possible with alot of the console games. ANYWAY, colonial marines looks fantastic lighting-wise and I can't wait to play it in the dark with headphones. :)
Title: Re: \\\'Xenos vs. Marines\\\' Trailer
Post by: OmegaZilla on Aug 09, 2012, 05:37:27 PM
Post by: OmegaZilla on Aug 09, 2012, 05:37:27 PM
Quote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 01:53:04 AMTop left, that's one of the laziest professional concept art pieces I have ever seen.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi124.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp30%2FShadowPred%2FRandom%2Ffunkylinedomealien.png&hash=24c255b8be5f0a94c8734777d376b514798372f9)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 09, 2012, 05:45:12 PM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 09, 2012, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: FightFinda on Aug 08, 2012, 05:35:40 PMGo to some firing range and you will see.
Erm... ::) Care to elaborate? I'd understand the slight change in pitch as per a standard modern war game, but in most occurences it's valid to say it sounds like a totally different weapon.
Btw lol @ the guy who need 1000$ PC to run a game with textures from 2006.
Title: Re: \\\'Xenos vs. Marines\\\' Trailer
Post by: newbeing on Aug 09, 2012, 06:59:34 PM
Post by: newbeing on Aug 09, 2012, 06:59:34 PM
Quote from: OmegaZilla on Aug 09, 2012, 05:37:27 PMQuote from: ShadowPred on Aug 07, 2012, 01:53:04 AMTop left, that's one of the laziest professional concept art pieces I have ever seen.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi124.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp30%2FShadowPred%2FRandom%2Ffunkylinedomealien.png&hash=24c255b8be5f0a94c8734777d376b514798372f9)
To be fair the person making this probably didn't know it was going to be shown to the public nor are they trying to produce a masterpiece. It was probably quickly put together to just get a basic point across. When you have hundreds of assets to concept I can understand cutting some corners to get the basic concept across.
It does look goofy however considering how disproportionate the head is.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Aug 09, 2012, 07:01:50 PM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Aug 09, 2012, 07:01:50 PM
Exactly. It's trying to get the basic vibe of the design across. The mandibled alien also used pieces from photos of the Sideshow/Hot Toys Big Chap figure on the jaw I noticed.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Aug 09, 2012, 08:11:17 PM
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Aug 09, 2012, 08:11:17 PM
I don't mind the idea of new xeno's as long as they don't look like a bunch of rejects from the 90's kenner toys.
I've pretty much abandoned the idea of this being a truly 'authentic' aliens game and I've made my peace with that, just make it good ok GBX.
I've pretty much abandoned the idea of this being a truly 'authentic' aliens game and I've made my peace with that, just make it good ok GBX.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: And stuff on Aug 10, 2012, 08:19:12 PM
Post by: And stuff on Aug 10, 2012, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Getting it for 360. Not paying $1000 bucks minimum to run a game. Take that PC gamers!
If you have a computer for general use, you wont need that much to run a game. Once you get a decent gpu in your rig you can get any game for free. I play PC games because I'm broke.
Take that console gamers! :P
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 08:28:14 PM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 08:28:14 PM
Quote from: And stuff on Aug 10, 2012, 08:19:12 PMError message 67897653: This game has unexpectedly crashed,windows will now pretend to search for a solution, but you know we won't find anything, you can google how to fix it all you like but it won't work so just give up and by a real gaming system.Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Getting it for 360. Not paying $1000 bucks minimum to run a game. Take that PC gamers!
If you have a computer for general use, you wont need that much to run a game. Once you get a decent gpu in your rig you can get any game for free. I play PC games because I'm broke.
Take that console gamers! :P
Take that PC gamers!
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Aug 10, 2012, 09:02:37 PM
Post by: PVTDukeMorrison on Aug 10, 2012, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 08:28:14 PMQuote from: And stuff on Aug 10, 2012, 08:19:12 PMError message 67897653: This game has unexpectedly crashed,windows will now pretend to search for a solution, but you know we won't find anything, you can google how to fix it all you like but it won't work so just give up and by a real gaming system.Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Getting it for 360. Not paying $1000 bucks minimum to run a game. Take that PC gamers!
If you have a computer for general use, you wont need that much to run a game. Once you get a decent gpu in your rig you can get any game for free. I play PC games because I'm broke.
Take that console gamers! :P
Take that PC gamers!
That just made my day, F*ck you Amnesia...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Nightlord on Aug 10, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
Post by: Nightlord on Aug 10, 2012, 09:08:57 PM
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Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 09:12:37 PM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 09:12:37 PM
Quote from: PVTDukeMorrison on Aug 10, 2012, 09:02:37 PMOh sh*t you have that problem with amnesia too!Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 08:28:14 PMQuote from: And stuff on Aug 10, 2012, 08:19:12 PMError message 67897653: This game has unexpectedly crashed,windows will now pretend to search for a solution, but you know we won't find anything, you can google how to fix it all you like but it won't work so just give up and by a real gaming system.Quote from: Sexy Poot on Aug 09, 2012, 02:20:30 AM
Getting it for 360. Not paying $1000 bucks minimum to run a game. Take that PC gamers!
If you have a computer for general use, you wont need that much to run a game. Once you get a decent gpu in your rig you can get any game for free. I play PC games because I'm broke.
Take that console gamers! :P
Take that PC gamers!
That just made my day, F*ck you Amnesia...
Quote from: Nightlord on Aug 10, 2012, 09:08:57 PMYou can have fun with all those nice things, just let me know when you get the game to run.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcHPes.png&hash=fee00a1da660ef5deee123482e709c64d36cdf6d)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 10, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 10, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
they all do because they aren't offensively shitty, gimped ports.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 09:39:18 PM
Hey, I own both a Ps3 and an Alienware M11X. For gaming I like my PS3 much more, I find a lot of PC games you have a chance of it not running or running poorly. With PS3 when you buy a game you don't have that fear. With PC it's constantly this error, that error, the game lags like crazy, the game crashes and you end up wasting your time trying to fix it, using google or youtube and a lot of the time the you just give up. With a PS3 the game freezes you take it out wipe it down with a cloth to get out some smudges and you play. I find when I play a new game on a PC, I'm almost expecting it to not work the first few times, and I end up frustrated and completely pissed off. When you get the damn thing to work, yeah you get mods, and other great things but it's being able to play that is the problem. You call up a tech guy or something when you're really stuck and he starts telling you, right click here, type the code 14929 into the text box below, check to see if this is there, then scratch your left ball, but not the right one cuz that will crash your computer, spin 381 degrees clockwise but if you go one degree off your computer will explode and don't even try counter clockwise because you'll wind up launching skynet, ok now the game should run, but it doesn't so you go back, and he tells you are you sure you didn't scratch your right ball, and the shit just continues.
That is why I prefer console.
That is why I prefer console.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 10, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 10, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
calm down, grampa.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 10, 2012, 10:52:49 PM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 10, 2012, 10:52:49 PM
I don't pay for PC games. Lets just leave it at that. I don't mind paying for console games cause most of the time, I get them for under $20 bucks after a months time has passed. Unless its a good old Nintendo game. Than I gladly shell out the $50 cause i know I'm getting my moneys worth. What I pay for is a guarantee that it'll run and i don't have to sit 2 feet in front of my screen. I can play on a nice big TV on a big comfy couch. PC games are fine for FPS and RTS, but for real "video games", the console is just the superior choice.
NOW LET THE WAR DIE. I CREATED IT AND I AM DESTROYING IT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ez5Y9LZc8Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ez5Y9LZc8Q#ws)
NOW LET THE WAR DIE. I CREATED IT AND I AM DESTROYING IT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ez5Y9LZc8Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ez5Y9LZc8Q#ws)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 10, 2012, 11:18:56 PM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 10, 2012, 11:18:56 PM
Peace?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20110124141920%2Faliens%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fb2%2FAlien_Independence_Day.png&hash=741d49296f063599e9ba3009ef0932bdb8c94a7e)
No Peaace...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages2.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20110124141920%2Faliens%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fb2%2FAlien_Independence_Day.png&hash=741d49296f063599e9ba3009ef0932bdb8c94a7e)
No Peaace...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 10, 2012, 11:27:01 PM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 10, 2012, 11:27:01 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Novak 1334 on Aug 11, 2012, 01:47:28 AM
Post by: Novak 1334 on Aug 11, 2012, 01:47:28 AM
I'm all about console gaming, purely because I have other important shit to worry about than mods and Graphics cards....
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 11, 2012, 05:31:05 AM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 11, 2012, 05:31:05 AM
Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 09:39:18 PMThats your problem then. Alienware PC's are garbage. No offense to you though, its all about the Alienware's cheap work.
and an Alienware M11X.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 11, 2012, 05:33:04 AM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 11, 2012, 05:33:04 AM
Alienware, also known as "my mom bought me a gaming PC".
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 11, 2012, 06:25:03 AM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 11, 2012, 06:25:03 AM
Quote from: WinterActual on Aug 11, 2012, 05:31:05 AMSo far it's actually been alright to me for the most part. Recently though it's been saying when ever I tried to check my Nvidia graphics card, that I'm not attached to an Nvidia GPU. Which is kinda annoying, but other than that it has been pretty good. However the screen is wobbly which is apparently a common problem that Dell fixes for free, but they still haven't responded to my email (which I sent a month ago) so their customer support isn't so great.Quote from: delsaber8 on Aug 10, 2012, 09:39:18 PMThats your problem then. Alienware PC's are garbage. No offense to you though, its all about the Alienware's cheap work.
and an Alienware M11X.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Light on Aug 11, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
Post by: Light on Aug 11, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
Thanks to that video now I finally know what a xenomorph is...
Well, they are bullshitting us in the same way they did with AvP3, talking big about how they consider the feedback and then saying there will be no lifecycle.
I just hope we are gonna have more than just 4 MP maps...
Well, they are bullshitting us in the same way they did with AvP3, talking big about how they consider the feedback and then saying there will be no lifecycle.
I just hope we are gonna have more than just 4 MP maps...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 11, 2012, 08:12:22 AM
Post by: PsyKore on Aug 11, 2012, 08:12:22 AM
Quote from: Light on Aug 11, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
I just hope we are gonna have more than just 4 MP maps...
I'm sure there will probably be another 4 more added later as overpriced DLC. ;)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 11, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 11, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
YEESH, I remember playing the alien and having to start off as a facehugger first then chestburster. I think this was AVP2.
Quote from: Light on Aug 11, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
Thanks to that video now I finally know what a xenomorph is...
Well, they are bullshitting us in the same way they did with AvP3, talking big about how they consider the feedback and then saying there will be no lifecycle.
I just hope we are gonna have more than just 4 MP maps...
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: RagingDragon on Aug 11, 2012, 03:57:50 PM
Post by: RagingDragon on Aug 11, 2012, 03:57:50 PM
Its reminding me so much of AvP 2010, just another halfway-there product. The weapons and models look great, environments look pretty good, graphics, eh... those acid splatters are kind of hideous, but we won't have to worry about that pesky acid anyway.
I really don't get any tension from the gameplay, or a feeling of being afraid at all. Those double/triple-kill bonuses don't help. You don't have a HUD for immersion, but you have "triple kill" flashing up on the screen like we're playing an arcade game?
Maybe that was just multiplayer...
Overall, I still think it looks below-average. Looks like a pretty good sci-fi shooter, but not so good as an Aliens game. Most depressing. Still on an express elevator to hell, going down.
I really don't get any tension from the gameplay, or a feeling of being afraid at all. Those double/triple-kill bonuses don't help. You don't have a HUD for immersion, but you have "triple kill" flashing up on the screen like we're playing an arcade game?
Maybe that was just multiplayer...
Overall, I still think it looks below-average. Looks like a pretty good sci-fi shooter, but not so good as an Aliens game. Most depressing. Still on an express elevator to hell, going down.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: FightFinda on Aug 11, 2012, 05:18:48 PM
Post by: FightFinda on Aug 11, 2012, 05:18:48 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Aug 11, 2012, 03:57:50 PM
Maybe that was just multiplayer...
Clearly... put it this way, if it isn't I'll throw my balls in a 'to go' bag for express delivery to Gearbox HQ because I've just been emasculated.
Quote from: RagingDragon... Express elevator to hell...
Please, Please no elevators/lifts/cranes/moving platforms. If you've played the Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine campaign you'll know what I mean.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 11, 2012, 05:45:01 PM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 11, 2012, 05:45:01 PM
Quote from: RagingDragon on Aug 11, 2012, 03:57:50 PMExactly mate. That's why I am way more excited about Natural Selection 2
Overall, I still think it looks below-average. Looks like a pretty good sci-fi shooter, but not so good as an Aliens game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjPywj1TODo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjPywj1TODo#ws)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 11, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Aug 11, 2012, 07:16:00 PM
Fantasy Scifi. ALiens is not fantasy sci-fi just sci-fi. There better not be any Jetpack business goin on in ACM.
But Natural Selection looks like a good alternative to Starcraft. It looks too busy for my taste as a conventional FPS game.
But Natural Selection looks like a good alternative to Starcraft. It looks too busy for my taste as a conventional FPS game.
Quote from: WinterActual on Aug 11, 2012, 05:45:01 PMQuote from: RagingDragon on Aug 11, 2012, 03:57:50 PMExactly mate. That's why I am way more excited about Natural Selection 2
Overall, I still think it looks below-average. Looks like a pretty good sci-fi shooter, but not so good as an Aliens game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjPywj1TODo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjPywj1TODo#ws)
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Nightlord on Aug 11, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
Post by: Nightlord on Aug 11, 2012, 08:21:43 PM
Quote from: FightFinda on Aug 11, 2012, 05:18:48 PMThere ain't nothing wrong with elevators, it's just that everyone does them wrong, they are always used for exposition and they are oversaturated in every game they're in.Quote from: RagingDragon... Express elevator to hell...Please, Please no elevators/lifts/cranes/moving platforms. If you've played the Warhammer 40,000 Space Marine campaign you'll know what I mean.
They should be rare and used for a quick reaction test, like say this guy breaks through the roof of your lift, if you don't kill him in about 5-6 seconds your dead.
Would be good I think since every game makes out that elevators are basically safe zones.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: RagingDragon on Aug 11, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
Post by: RagingDragon on Aug 11, 2012, 09:17:41 PM
Quick reaction test, you say?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb290%2FBartleby24%2Faliens10.jpg&hash=f85f7878795d8ae7d117c00ef53c57204df11542)
Would be pretty cool, if it weren't for the fact that even when you win...
You lose. :laugh:
Not in A:CM though, Hicks would be all good. Drake too. Vasquez too. Hudson's arm too.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi21.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb290%2FBartleby24%2Faliens10.jpg&hash=f85f7878795d8ae7d117c00ef53c57204df11542)
Would be pretty cool, if it weren't for the fact that even when you win...
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brainkiller.it%2Faliens%2Faliens%2Fhicks07.jpg&hash=27db3943ca0ebe0dbe4bef6e94a5e34ac73294cf)
[close]
You lose. :laugh:
Not in A:CM though, Hicks would be all good. Drake too. Vasquez too. Hudson's arm too.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 11, 2012, 09:21:57 PM
Post by: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 11, 2012, 09:21:57 PM
remember the SNES Alien 3 in which acid would randomly drop from the ceiling and you had to dodge it?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 11, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 11, 2012, 09:29:11 PM
Love that game.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 11, 2012, 11:28:16 PM
Post by: delsaber8 on Aug 11, 2012, 11:28:16 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Aug 11, 2012, 09:21:57 PMSadly never beat that game, still have it and I should probably give it a play through one of these days.
remember the SNES Alien 3 in which acid would randomly drop from the ceiling and you had to dodge it?
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 11, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
Post by: Sexy Poot on Aug 11, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
I remember I got to the queen once and never did again. That was years ago. It really is the precursor to the Infestation game. Atmosphere out the ying-yang.
Title: Re: 'Xenos vs. Marines' Trailer
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 12, 2012, 05:31:49 AM
Post by: WinterActual on Aug 12, 2012, 05:31:49 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 11, 2012, 07:16:00 PMI was talking about the gameplay. Also there's no common thing between NS2 and SC2. In NS2 the commander just build a base but there are no units to command because the units are actual players.
Fantasy Scifi. ALiens is not fantasy sci-fi just sci-fi.