Predator: Hunting Grounds Catch-All Thread

Started by Corporal Hicks, Oct 07, 2019, 09:39:48 AM

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Wweyland

I would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.

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Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 08:31:39 AMI would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.
That's my thoughts as well. I saw a page from Illfonic getting go ahead from Fox. Able add a little to the lore with the game and it would be canon, so it must be. I don't think it went out of bounds with anything.
 
Though the only criticism I would say is the Isabelle tapes, mentioning she and the science team hypothesized that predators were "not very smart" due to how they had their equipment interface set up. In the end though, it's simply her opinion and she knows very little about them as a race outside of a few Bad Blood encounters. Maybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol

Corporal Hicks

Pretty much all new licensed releases are canon. Until the next new licensed release doesn't want to use/didn't want to research it, and then it's not.

Wweyland

Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 08:31:39 AMI would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.
That's my thoughts as well. I saw a page from Illfonic getting go ahead from Fox. Able add a little to the lore with the game and it would be canon, so it must be. I don't think it went out of bounds with anything.
 
Though the only criticism I would say is the Isabelle tapes, mentioning she and the science team hypothesized that predators were "not very smart" due to how they had their equipment interface set up. In the end though, it's simply her opinion and she knows very little about them as a race outside of a few Bad Blood encounters. Maybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
We are yet to see a smart Predator who survives a movie. Wolf came close (in the game he survived).

(Bad Blood)

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Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 10:16:16 AM
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AM
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 08:31:39 AMI would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.
That's my thoughts as well. I saw a page from Illfonic getting go ahead from Fox. Able add a little to the lore with the game and it would be canon, so it must be. I don't think it went out of bounds with anything.
 
Though the only criticism I would say is the Isabelle tapes, mentioning she and the science team hypothesized that predators were "not very smart" due to how they had their equipment interface set up. In the end though, it's simply her opinion and she knows very little about them as a race outside of a few Bad Blood encounters. Maybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
We are yet to see a smart Predator who survives a movie. Wolf came close (in the game he survived).
To be fair we have yet to see any creature from any film survive. Aliens, gremlins, critters, predators, etc. It's unfortunately never going to change as long as humans are in the story. However in the comics they survived quite often. There are even more than a few recurring predators.

 Also technically all of the predators at the end of Predator 2 would be surviving predators from hunts and an elder who very much has survived countless encounters. Also to note, at least 30 people die in every film besides the first movie before a single predator goes down and they have a far greater understanding of advanced technology as well as our own even in the films. The ones that do die, they typically fall to hubris and not a severe lack of intelligence.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AMMaybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
You know what....that didn't eve occur to me either lol! Its just another detail that is shamefully forgotten in later media. Funny how OWLF studied Predator corpses but never found out of their poor eyesight or researching their brains to determine their mental capabilities. We see this all the time in other sciences of other creatures to even MRI scans in dinosaur skulls to determine their brain size and intelligence.

Actually, thinking about it even more, it makes me review the final fight between Naru and Feral with more context now, seeing how there was movements he missed Naru doing as he had no mask in the fight. Like no wonder he struggled even more than people think he did. Predators are short sighted beings without their masks. I recall that in the final fight, the red vision has less details far away compared to their masked blue thermal vision where details is more defined and sharp. Thanks for that point!

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Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 27, 2024, 06:31:52 AM
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AMMaybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
You know what....that didn't eve occur to me either lol! Its just another detail that is shamefully forgotten in later media. Funny how OWLF studied Predator corpses but never found out of their poor eyesight or researching their brains to determine their mental capabilities. We see this all the time in other sciences of other creatures to even MRI scans in dinosaur skulls to determine their brain size and intelligence.

Actually, thinking about it even more, it makes me review the final fight between Naru and Feral with more context now, seeing how there was movements he missed Naru doing as he had no mask in the fight. Like no wonder he struggled even more than people think he did. Predators are short sighted beings without their masks. I recall that in the final fight, the red vision has less details far away compared to their masked blue thermal vision where details is more defined and sharp. Thanks for that point!
It is so very often left out, overlooked, or even considered. They are basically near blind without their masks. Exactly! Couldn't have said it better myself. Feral was at an extreme disadvantage against Naru.

He had his Brian's blown out so he had trouble thinking. Basically blind to her movements, heavy damage from prior fights. Exactly. Oh you are most welcome!

CANNON

It actually would of been cool to have that red natural predator vision in Hunting Grounds at the very least as an option.

Corporal Hicks

I think it would have been unplayable.  :(

CANNON

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After the latest Patch 3.0.3 (HotFix) for Xbox they fixed the 'Early Bird' achievement which was locked previously.


Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2024, 12:02:19 PMI think it would have been unplayable.  :(

Haha you're absolutely right, it would of been unplayable.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2024, 12:02:19 PMI think it would have been unplayable.  :(
Would it? The AVP and AVP2 showed no real issues on having a red vision mode. I just think there would be a visual limit on spotting their thermal signature after a few yards but can see their environment is fine.

Samhain13

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 07, 2024, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2024, 12:02:19 PMI think it would have been unplayable.  :(
Would it? The AVP and AVP2 showed no real issues on having a red vision mode. I just think there would be a visual limit on spotting their thermal signature after a few yards but can see their environment is fine.

I always thought that one was the darkest vision hardest to see anything besides the aliens

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 07, 2024, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2024, 12:02:19 PMI think it would have been unplayable.  :(
Would it? The AVP and AVP2 showed no real issues on having a red vision mode. I just think there would be a visual limit on spotting their thermal signature after a few yards but can see their environment is fine.

AvP1 & 2's red vision mode is very detailed, and the Aliens stand out very well. Perhaps it was just the jungle setting, but I don't recall the environment being particularly clear in film.

CANNON

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 08, 2024, 06:55:25 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 07, 2024, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2024, 12:02:19 PMI think it would have been unplayable.  :(
Would it? The AVP and AVP2 showed no real issues on having a red vision mode. I just think there would be a visual limit on spotting their thermal signature after a few yards but can see their environment is fine.

AvP1 & 2's red vision mode is very detailed, and the Aliens stand out very well. Perhaps it was just the jungle setting, but I don't recall the environment being particularly clear in film.

You are absolutely right in the original 87 film, Preds natural vision is extremely difficult to see, it's like a monochromatic with no contrast red. Id imagine that lack of clarity was probably due to the special effects at the time of filming and not a purposeful choice.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: Samhain13 on Nov 07, 2024, 10:17:50 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 07, 2024, 08:35:47 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 26, 2024, 12:02:19 PMI think it would have been unplayable.  :(
Would it? The AVP and AVP2 showed no real issues on having a red vision mode. I just think there would be a visual limit on spotting their thermal signature after a few yards but can see their environment is fine.

I always thought that one was the darkest vision hardest to see anything besides the aliens
That's odd. Perhaps at that time, your settings were off? Not enough brightness and contrast?

Plus it also depends the kind of shade or tint of red we talking here. Some kind of mid-light red could help if its too much trouble. But least for me, I had no such problems.

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