Dark Horse Fire and Stone (Prometheus/Aliens/AvP/Predator/Omega): All Reviews

[The Old One]

So unbelievably idiotic.
The fact nobody vetoed it is, unfortunate.

[Samhain13]

Maybe it was forced by Fox. Ripley's presence was forced on Out of Shadows, in Sea of Sorrow they might have asked to tie the story and the main character to Ripley.

[Russ840]

The empathic ability doesn't need to come from Ripley.

Agreed. That's why I said that it doesn't matter either way.

How is the audio drama for Sea Of Sorrows ?

[HuDaFuK]

I think HuDa is refereeing to the empathic ability.

Being a relative of Ripley 8 would be an easy way to explain said ability.

Being a relative of OG Ripley means humans would have to evolve this ability.

Yeah, pretty much.

There's also the fact there's infinite scope for Ripley 8 to have had children at some point, whereas we're specifically told Ellen Ripley had no living descendants by 2179.

It wasn't exactly ridiculous the way it was, I just thought there was an obvious and logical tally there that the book needlessly avoided.

[Russ840]

Would also be a nice nod to Resurrection as well. If they went out of their way to acknowledge Ripley 8 it would highlight the potential for further tales with her.

[Samhain13]

whereas we're specifically told Ellen Ripley had no living descendants by 2179.

They went for the retcon path, didn't the author said Burke was lying? Don't remember the podcast well. Anyways Amanda had kids now.

[HuDaFuK]

Oh sure, you could say Burke was simply lying. But by making Decker's forebear Ripley 8 instead you don't need to faff about with work-arounds like that.

On top of which there'd be a nice link for the Xeno-empathy thing.

[Samhain13]

I assumed Ripley 8's Xeno-empathy thing was exclusive to the AR hive, since they had her memories too, weren't average aliens, being cloned mutants like her.

So an unrelated hive like the one in LV-178 wouldn't really react to that link. But I get what you mean, when I first heard about the book I was sure he was a descendent of Ripley 8, seemed like the obvious route to go for that case.

[The Cruentus]

How is the audio drama for Sea Of Sorrows ?

Really good, there is a lot of interesting changes to it, one or two them is not as good and should have been left as it was in the book though. Namely

Spoiler

Rollins decision regarding the hive, she made a smart and pragmatic choice in the book, not so much in the audio.

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[SM]

There's also the fact there's infinite scope for Ripley 8 to have had children at some point, whereas we're specifically told Ellen Ripley had no living descendants by 2179.

She could've had cousins.

[HuDaFuK]

You'd think any surviving family would rate a mention in Aliens. The film implies that with her daughter gone she's very much alone.

[SM]

Why would they rate a mention?

Probably a good chance any hypothetical cousins were also dead.  Assuming she had any meaningful relationship with them before she left.

[HuDaFuK]

A connection to her past life, however tangible.

I'd like to think if I got frozen in time for almost six decades, I'd be told about any living relatives I might still have when I woke up so that there'd at least be someone I knew I could potentially relate to.

Besides, "descendant" of Ripley implies Decker comes from an offspring of hers directly rather than a cousin or some such. I certainly wouldn't call my cousins' children my descendants.

[Corporal Hicks]

You'd usually just use relatives.

[SM]

She obviously has no descendants.