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Posted by The Old One
 - Dec 18, 2019, 03:12:02 PM
You don't know the man then, H.R Giger's said when it becomes that devoid of subtext, it essentially becomes ridiculous.
Posted by Samhain13
 - Dec 13, 2019, 10:39:55 PM
People can say it doesn't make any sense but I don't think Giger would have much of a problem with an alien doing that type of humping.
Posted by Voodoo Magic
 - Dec 13, 2019, 09:54:16 PM
Posted by SM
 - Dec 13, 2019, 09:25:22 PM
Quote from: SiL on Dec 13, 2019, 09:31:15 AM
You are. What I mean is they all grow immediately into Aliens with no domes -- there's no moulting, no dome falling off, nothing. Whatever process would create the dome just doesn't happen and they go straight to exposed ridged skulls.

I just fansplained that away by saying they moulted off screen at a much faster rate similar to the sped up gestation in AvP.
Posted by The Old One
 - Dec 13, 2019, 02:34:12 PM
Just disgusting. lol
Posted by SiL
 - Dec 13, 2019, 09:31:15 AM
You are. What I mean is they all grow immediately into Aliens with no domes -- there's no moulting, no dome falling off, nothing. Whatever process would create the dome just doesn't happen and they go straight to exposed ridged skulls.
Posted by SM
 - Dec 13, 2019, 07:42:01 AM
The bursters in Requiem all have smooth heads or am I missing something?
Posted by SiL
 - Dec 13, 2019, 05:51:06 AM
Quote from: razeak on Dec 13, 2019, 02:48:12 AM
That's also assuming we are forced to explain away the lack of cowl in Aliens from an in-universe perspective.
Requiem offers a neat explanation: they weren't born with them.
Posted by The Old One
 - Dec 13, 2019, 03:50:35 AM
H.R Giger approves.
Posted by razeak
 - Dec 13, 2019, 02:48:12 AM
I don't disagree. I think the theory can fit easily though.  I had just thought about a more recent batch of xenos a few minutes ago.

As for not needing to eat to grow, I agree there too. That's pretty much shown on film. I also think there is plenty of wriggle room to allow that they can't necessarily continue that metabolism for more than a couple of days without negative effects.

That's also assuming we are forced to explain away the lack of cowl in Aliens from an in-universe perspective. Could just be the newer ones weren't directly observed in all the confusion and chaos.

Now I've got this nagging foreskin comparison in mind trying to take hold. Lol. Yuck
Posted by SiL
 - Dec 13, 2019, 02:12:09 AM
Alien 3 and Requiem show eating.

Alien had it scripted that the Alien raided the food lockers; the novel also has it, but it's conspicuously absent in the film. All films are consistent that they don't appear to need to eat to grow. Requiem, for what it's worth, shows that the domed/ridged distinction is made at birth.

Considering some of the Aliens in the hive are relatively fresh in Aliens, you'd still expect to see some domes even if it's a malnourishment thing.
Posted by razeak
 - Dec 13, 2019, 01:37:23 AM
I think the one in Alien 3 appeared to eat.

Was it the novelization that mentioned the chest burster in relation to the food stores or am I misremembering?

Posted by SiL
 - Dec 12, 2019, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: razeak on Dec 12, 2019, 03:35:35 PM
Whatever calorie needs they have
Which appears to be zero, considering they grow to full size without ever being seen to eat.
Posted by Elmazalman
 - Dec 12, 2019, 09:13:04 PM
Getting back to Lambert, her reaction to being confronted by the creature was a natural one that fit the character. Freezing the way she did, backed into a corner with no space to move, was a hopeless situation for her.

It's interesting in the way each character reacts to their (final) encounter with the Alien, fits with earlier moments in the film.
Logically (within the film), they behave according to what is revealed about their personalities:

Brett is seen stunned (perhaps frozen) as the infant emerges from Kane, and later, the same response to facing the adult before being attacked. His buddy, Parker - prone to heroics - a reckless character flaw that gets him killed.

The only genuine surprise (characterwise) being Ash, but even here there are clues as to his inhuman nature throughout the film.





Posted by The Old One
 - Dec 12, 2019, 09:07:00 PM
Yes! I can really get behind the idea, especially because if you look at the Alien in Covenant it's so far beyond them, and the one in Alien is toying with it's mostly weaponless prey.
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