Did anyone even bother to read my last post?
I'd really recommend reading some of the 26-page thread OmegaZilla linked to. The discussion there shows us there really is no answer.
The whole argument is fubar. After everything the Marines had gone through, it makes no sense that Ripley didn't do some kind of ship scan to make sure there were no other aliens on board, after the Queen had been eliminated. It would have been COMMON SENSE to scan the ship and look for invaders before going into hyper sleep.
QuoteI like to think the Queen took an egg with her from the hive, one that didn't get burnt, and stuck it on her back for the journey to the Sulaco. It's bullshit of course, but it doesn't seem too far-fetched to me that she could piggyback one with her.
Yes, part of that seems realistic. But the Queen had no time to take that egg and put it somewhere else on the Sulaco. In Alien3, the egg was definitely not on the drop ship. There are other problems with your theory too, but I won't go into them. Even if we assume the egg WAS on the dropship, the dropship would have been likely closed and sealed. So how did the face hugger get out? And most importantly, *what* made the egg open up in the first place?
Unless the egg was somewhere near the cryo room, the face hugger would have had to spit TONS of acid and open all these doors into order to get in there and impregnate Ripley. But still, no answer to why the egg opened in the first place.
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"I cannot harm, nor by omission of action allow to come to a harm, a human being."
This doesn't matter in the least. When Bishop said that line, he was stating he cannot harm a human being on his own accord. But he is a *robot*. He has to taken orders from *someone*. He is property of the *company*. There is no reason to believe that Bishop, a robot, has freewill.
What would Bishop do if say, Hudson went A-WOL and started trying to stab Newt? What if the only way to stop Hudson from doing this, was to harm Hudson? By your logic, Bishop wouldn't be able to do anything, because he cannot harm a human being. You're taking his words out of context.
Plus, what if Bishop was lying that he cannot harm a human being? What if he was just saying what the company wanted to say to shut Ripley up?
I do believe Bishop cared about Ripley, the crew, and humanity in general. But he still does not have freewill, and he has to obey orders. He worked for a greedy, manipulative company that did not care about Ripley, the crew, or humanity.
Even if Bishop was property of the military, and not the company directly, he still could have been reprogrammed *before* the Marines sent out on the journey to LV-426.
QuoteAlso there were only two alive. And they both got wasted.
Aaand Burke didn't speak for the Company -- he was a representative, yes, but he was there solely to assess the situation. Otherwise he was flying solo.
Ok, you are right about the two face huggers being killed. But we saw from Burke's actions later in the film that he was willing to do ANYTHING to bring the alien back. We don't know how Bishop may have been reprogrammed before the Marines came to LV-426.
Either way, you may be right. If that's the case, then that just further exposes this plot-hole in Alien3, because the Bishop answer is really the best one.
QuoteThe pods are different in A³. It was a creative decision by Fincher.
I don't understand why the directors blatantly put these plot-holes into the movie. What were his reasons for making this creative decision?
I suppose it makes sense that the cryo tubes slid into different casing on board the Sulaco's shuttle (we see this happening at the beginning of Alien3), but I believe it showed them on board the Sulaco *before* they slid into the shuttle, so it still doesn't make sense.
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Bishop could have gone to take an egg while Ripley went inside to rescue Newt. When she returned, he wasn't there. He emerged from the lower levels of the facility, where Ripley just came from.
He might have taken an egg and stuck it at a place where the rest of the crew wouldn't really go. Like the weapons shaft.
Hicks was injured and all three of the humans would be in their hypersleeps.
Bishop was an android, so the facehugger would never attack him.
There wasn't enough time for Bishop to do all that when Ripley was rescuing Newt. I agree he could have grabbed an egg within this time frame and hid it aboard the shuttle, but there was no time to hide it on the Sulaco itself. It's already been stated here that the egg was *not* on board the shuttle when we see it in Alien3. And I've already raised further questions about this, like how the egg itself opened up, or how the face hugger would be able to get off the shuttle.
If Bishop did just hide the egg on board the shuttle, there was no time for him to take it and hide it somewhere on board the Sulaco. Bishop is attacked and decimated by the Queen as soon as the shuttle returns.
QuoteA: CM says that there was a party of humans that arrives after the crew was in stasis. They had Alien specimens of their own but something goes wrong and they all end up dying (or facehugged). There is no Queen in Sulaco at the moment and one of the Aliens might have done the magic tricks of molting eggs into super facehugger eggs on one of the later-crew.
That facehugger than spits acid around and impregnates Ripley.
Revenge!
Who's CM?
This theory is just silly. It's been covered before, like in the 26 pages that have already been discussed in the other thread. Even if another party had recovered alien eggs, it makes no sense that they'd just bring them to the Sulaco, hide them there, and hope everything plays out the way they want it to. If the company recovered eggs, they would be studying them in their own labs. There would be no reason to bring them to the Sulaco, especially hide them there and then leave. There are so many problems with this theory it's not even worth going into. Plus, in Alien3 Bishop says the Alien was with them ALL THE WAY.... as in, as soon as they left LV-426.