Marvel Announces Predator vs. Black Panther Series!

Started by Corporal Hicks, May 23, 2024, 06:00:33 AM

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happypred

Vibranium in weaponised form is more destructive than adamantium? The kinetic absorption and discharge has much more utility than simply being extreeemely durable, no?

Anyway...
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rival pred clans is always a fun concept and if you throw in some brotherly enmity and an interesting pred character (kinda like Shorty but smarter and with implants), could have us something beyond the basic Predator comic
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RakaiThwei

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 22, 2024, 04:50:43 AMI couldn't help but laugh at how they call Vibranium, "Godmetal", having no idea of all the other Marvel metals out there. My crab faced friend, if you think that's Godmetal, wait till you find out about Adamantium or even Mysterium.

Oh, if they learned about Uru metal... Oh my God.

As for them knowing about Adamantium, I would think that the one Yautja that came across Wolverine might have shared some stories to the rest of his clan mates or even friends from affiliated clans. So they might know about it but... whether or not they want to pursue, I don't know.

But uh...

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In regards to the way the Predators are presented in this comic, well... I just wish that they didn't go with the idea of a monarch society for this depiction. I never liked the idea of Yautja having a monarch based society especially when they're tribal based. I could forgive this one instance, if it's just this one clan that's so large that it's got two branching clans, and because they are in possession of Vibranium, this powerful clan took over a planet and formed a semi-society of their own that isn't reflective of the Yautja back on homeworld (I never liked the term Yautja Prime. Screw that terminology). Maybe that is the case. I don't know. But... Benjamin Percy seriously needs to do more research into the Predator/AVP lore-- especially with the concept of the Council of Ancient. At least NECA kinda sorta incorporated that too but I wouldn't count NECA's stuff as canon anyways.
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Mr.Turok

Quote from: happypred on Aug 22, 2024, 03:00:50 PMVibranium in weaponised form is more destructive than adamantium? The kinetic absorption and discharge has much more utility than simply being extreeemely durable, no?

It depends I think, you want armor/weapons that have lots of utility but still have limits of durability or  reliability that can save your life from any threat always? Both Wolverine and BP go far with each resource, so guess it's the matter of what ya like. I'm team why not both lol

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 23, 2024, 02:11:50 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 22, 2024, 04:50:43 AMI couldn't help but laugh at how they call Vibranium, "Godmetal", having no idea of all the other Marvel metals out there. My crab faced friend, if you think that's Godmetal, wait till you find out about Adamantium or even Mysterium.

Oh, if they learned about Uru metal... Oh my God.

As for them knowing about Adamantium, I would think that the one Yautja that came across Wolverine might have shared some stories to the rest of his clan mates or even friends from affiliated clans. So they might know about it but... whether or not they want to pursue, I don't know.

But uh...

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In regards to the way the Predators are presented in this comic, well... I just wish that they didn't go with the idea of a monarch society for this depiction. I never liked the idea of Yautja having a monarch based society especially when they're tribal based. I could forgive this one instance, if it's just this one clan that's so large that it's got two branching clans, and because they are in possession of Vibranium, this powerful clan took over a planet and formed a semi-society of their own that isn't reflective of the Yautja back on homeworld (I never liked the term Yautja Prime. Screw that terminology). Maybe that is the case. I don't know. But... Benjamin Percy seriously needs to do more research into the Predator/AVP lore-- especially with the concept of the Council of Ancient. At least NECA kinda sorta incorporated that too but I wouldn't count NECA's stuff as canon anyways.
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I guess of seeing how one of their buds bit the dust, perhaps its not worth it for so little gain but hey, there is always one mofo who always is trying to skate up hill. Would love to see a reoccurring Predator character with Adamantium or Vibrainium weapons/gear one day.

As for the King thing:

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Like us humans on Earth, it makes sense that Predators have different types of societies as we had across our own world, so perhaps this particular clan practices monarchy. I mean look at Vikings, they have clans and tribes but also work on the system of having kings and queens. Just that people think these days of kings and queens to be these posh rulers of peasantry as portrayed in media, when even far back, not all kingdoms are as such and lots of them are of simple smaller lands and smaller groups of people.
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happypred

Im not a Marvel Expert, but Vibranium, while not as super-duper insanely tough as Adamantium, is still very tough and enough to survive most situations no?

If the idea is...it somehow magically converts kinetic impact into store energy (can be discharged later), then almost impossible to break Vibranium with kinetic impact, no? Or maybe Vibranium can be cut or pierced more easily. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain more.

The Predator King seems to be a glorified Chieftain. He is the King of a big tribe with two sons and their respective actions. Its not weird to me at all. Weve already hade Predator Elders with flowing red capes, so this seems more like a title change, or just semantics.

RakaiThwei

Quote from: happypred on Aug 23, 2024, 04:59:41 AMIm not a Marvel Expert, but Vibranium, while not as super-duper insanely tough as Adamantium, is still very tough and enough to survive most situations no?

If the idea is...it somehow magically converts kinetic impact into store energy (can be discharged later), then almost impossible to break Vibranium with kinetic impact, no? Or maybe Vibranium can be cut or pierced more easily. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain more.

Vibranium is insanely durable but it has a limit, albeit an insanely high one but if it ever breaks that limit-- it can break with explosive results.

In the case of BP's suit, as durable as it is, it's not without its weakness. It can be torn if it's cut along the grain of the weave. I don't see this as being a problem for skilled and precise Predator.

Also can we talk about...

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How a Predator plasma caster overwhelmed BP's suit and TKO'ed him? The standard suits not as impervious against the caster as Marvel fans want to believe!
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Mr.Turok

Quote from: RakaiThwei on Aug 23, 2024, 06:17:45 AMVibranium is insanely durable but it has a limit, albeit an insanely high one but if it ever breaks that limit-- it can break with explosive results.

In the case of BP's suit, as durable as it is, it's not without its weakness. It can be torn if it's cut along the grain of the weave. I don't see this as being a problem for skilled and precise Predator.

Also can we talk about...

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How a Predator plasma caster overwhelmed BP's suit and TKO'ed him? The standard suits not as impervious against the caster as Marvel fans want to believe!
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I'm curious to know why Marvel fans wouldn't think the caster can do damage. It's an plasma based weapon, not kinetic based, so it should indeed do some kind of heavy damage. I am not fully in the know of BP lore and power scaling so I have no idea of the limits of his tech.

Now I'm even more curious to see how he will hold up against the xenos in the other crossover.
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Corporal Hicks

It's a shame both the current Predator and AvP runs are crossovers, but like the AvP series, I enjoyed this first issue. Very much enjoying the visual style here. The Predator Prince masks are very interesting, and it's interesting to see something tackle the whole less physically able Predator dealing with Predator society thing. I admit I'd have expected the disabled son to just be killed at birth, but I'm definitely curious to see where they go with it.

The Wakanda aspect of the story seems kinda run-of-the-mill from my limited experience with Black Panther? Does the sharing thing come up very often with the character?

One thing confused me, would the people inside Wakanda's shield not hear/see the Predator's attack before they hacked their way through?

Off to a pretty strong start.

Scott Conover

They were cloaked and the text emphasises that the Predators' technology is more advanced so I suppose it checks out. Did they attack before breaking in? I don't remember

Corporal Hicks

They tried to attack the shield first before they hacked it.

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Don't want to spoil my own podcasts review of #1, but I enjoyed the first issue. I love that we're finally getting a Predator series under Marvel that is from the Yautja's perspective (well, at least half of it)

Plus, I really enjoy that the Predator is hunting the Vibranium, rather than T'Challa


Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 01, 2024, 01:14:25 PMThe Wakanda aspect of the story seems kinda run-of-the-mill from my limited experience with Black Panther? Does the sharing thing come up very often with the character?


It feels very MCU inspired, which I suppose makes sense. The Predator fans that are non-comic readers are probably at least familiar with the film version

Scott Conover

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 02, 2024, 05:28:31 AMThey tried to attack the shield first before they hacked it.

Ohhh. Yeah that is a bit strange then.

Xenomrph

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 01, 2024, 01:14:25 PMIt's a shame both the current Predator and AvP runs are crossovers, but like the AvP series, I enjoyed this first issue.
What AvP series?

Corporal Hicks


RakaiThwei


Mr.Turok

Second Issue is out, not much to look at actually:

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A fight between the Dora Milaje and a Predator hunting party results in the Dora Milaje turning to retreat.

T'Challa recovers and manages to take down a Predator with an assist from a crocodile.

Shuri survives and is trying to regroup, but gets kidnapped by a Predator

The Prince manages not only get his own vibranium spear, but also finds where all the Vibranium of Wakanda is stored.
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A transition issue from point A to B, not a huge fan of the art here but its ok.

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