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the feedbacks i read says its a very week game, low ai, boring gameplay, not scary at all, disgrace, worse than avp2010

dunno about the difficulty level was played on

Quotedunno about the difficulty level was played on

This shouldn't matter. A good game, is a good game regardless of the difficulty. Would it be possible to link us to this feedback or quote it so we can read the original?

they are not in english and they are so detailed as my translation


btw it was played on xbox360 , feedback after around 1 hour gameplay

QuoteAbout 5 missions in and it's very average shooter. Mostly it only has nostalgia going for it...mostly.

At 2nd missions you are introduced to human enemies which unfortunately shows how bland it is. Gun customization is basically cosmetic albeit the ability to change the underbarrel weapon. Who the f**k wants to put a silencer on a pulse rifle...that's just wrong.

All in all,it's worth a play for the nostalgia's sake.

QuoteJust played the first mission and someof the second, unfortunately this game sucks Sad Since I'm also a huge alien fan i really wanted to like it but besides the license there really isn't much to like.

Graphics are barely this gen. So imagine Quake4 from the launch window without the slowdowns but with framerate all over the place (it jumps between 25 and 60, at least thats how it feels). Heavy aliasing, shitty textures, shitty lighting, no mimic in character faces whatsoever. The "cutscenes" are super ugly, i couldn't believe it when i started the game up. Evern the start screen is low res :/.

Gameplay wise this is as generic as you can get. In the first mission alone i had like 10 situations where the npc said, cover me while I'm opening this door. Belive me its really that bad. The scripted events completely pull you out of the game and have never felt this clunky :/. AI is nonexistent just as a storyline, but I'm only like 45-60 Minutes into the game, so i won't bash it for that.

My first contender for biggest letdown 2013 Sad

Unfortunate, but expected. Thanks for the posts guys.

Damn, it's what I expected but it's still pretty unfortunate. Will still be getting it day one but I was hoping it was at least going to be somewhat above average.

QuoteYep, this game is bland as f**k. AI is also terrible in this game. Aliens standing still for multiple seconds when they come into the room at times, or your coop AI ignoring enemies at times and vice versa. It feels like a poor mans COD in the alien universe. The f**k yeah brofist attitude is forgiven in this case seeing as the marines were like this in the actual movie.

Pretty much in line with expectation.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:04:47 PM

QuoteAbout 5 missions in and it's very average shooter. Mostly it only has nostalgia going for it...mostly.

At 2nd missions you are introduced to human enemies which unfortunately shows how bland it is. Gun customization is basically cosmetic albeit the ability to change the underbarrel weapon. Who the f**k wants to put a silencer on a pulse rifle...that's just wrong.

All in all,it's worth a play for the nostalgia's sake.

QuoteJust played the first mission and someof the second, unfortunately this game sucks Sad Since I'm also a huge alien fan i really wanted to like it but besides the license there really isn't much to like.

Graphics are barely this gen. So imagine Quake4 from the launch window without the slowdowns but with framerate all over the place (it jumps between 25 and 60, at least thats how it feels). Heavy aliasing, shitty textures, shitty lighting, no mimic in character faces whatsoever. The "cutscenes" are super ugly, i couldn't believe it when i started the game up. Evern the start screen is low res :/.

Gameplay wise this is as generic as you can get. In the first mission alone i had like 10 situations where the npc said, cover me while I'm opening this door. Belive me its really that bad. The scripted events completely pull you out of the game and have never felt this clunky :/. AI is nonexistent just as a storyline, but I'm only like 45-60 Minutes into the game, so i won't bash it for that.

My first contender for biggest letdown 2013 Sad

if your going to post that, you could have at least posted the more positive review from the very same page as well

QuoteMini review

Only couple of missions in so very early impressions but graphics are okay, lighting is good, some of the textures are poor. Sound is great, the voice acting is no where as bad as the last trailer made out. Gameplay wise it feels like Aliens, the guns are authentic, story so far seems in keeping with the movies. I have it preordered and i haven't felt the need to cancel do far.

In summary, if this didn't have the license it would maybe be a 7 out of 10, because i am a huge Aliens fan i can overlook its flaws and i hope the multiplayer is good.

What? I posted all the reviews so far from the forum where I got em..

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:42:18 PM
What? I posted all the reviews so far from the forum where I got em..

Interesting, perhaps he posted it in two seperate forums then

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:42:18 PM
What? I posted all the reviews so far from the forum where I got em..

You know what that smell is WinterActual? I think we all do... *SNIFF* Yep. Denial.  :) (Not you. About the negative reviews, I mean...)

Quote from: unwittytitle on Feb 07, 2013, 06:45:35 PM


Interesting, perhaps he posted it in two seperate forums then

I posted ALL the reviews posted so far from nfohumps. I don't know where you got that review from but I don't have anything against the positive reviews. If I see one I'll post it.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:30:58 PM

QuoteYep, this game is bland as f**k. AI is also terrible in this game. Aliens standing still for multiple seconds when they come into the room at times, or your coop AI ignoring enemies at times and vice versa. It feels like a poor mans COD in the alien universe. The f**k yeah brofist attitude is forgiven in this case seeing as the marines were like this in the actual movie.

Yup, I'm on that boat too. Discouraging, but not surprising.

This in the quote ^ could see it coming a mile away. Even from the earliest gameplay footage, it was clear that the AI comrades joining you will do nothing to advance the terrible NPC counterparts in most games. Awful pathing, no reaction to enemies, the environment, etc...

Most games suffer from this same problem, heavy-hitters like CoD included. I just got through about 8 hours of eye-rolling over Black Ops 2's sometimes-terrible NPCs. The game wants you to be this badass soldier when you can't even count on your teammates to perform basic combat maneuvers like covering you while you move or looking a different direction than everyone else. It's par for the course with shooters these days, but just damn discouraging.

Sad that with all of the work that's gone into this, the game still seems to suffer from these most fixable (and non-Alien related) issues. :-\

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:47:55 PM

Quote from: unwittytitle on Feb 07, 2013, 06:45:35 PM


Interesting, perhaps he posted it in two seperate forums then

I posted ALL the reviews posted so far from nfohumps. I don't know where you got that review from but I don't have anything against the positive reviews. If I see one I'll post it.

Yup thats the same one, top of page 4 is where the review is

You are right, its posted by Foghorn Leghorn. I guess my attention is being held by the emoticon including posts which this post is missing and that's why I missed it  :laugh: One positive review is still something I guess. We will see of the guys will post more detailed reviews.

Good thing my excitement level for this game is currently sitting at 10% rather than 100% -- beats not having to deal with being let down by this.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 07, 2013, 06:04:47 PM

QuoteAbout 5 missions in and it's very average shooter. Mostly it only has nostalgia going for it...mostly.

At 2nd missions you are introduced to human enemies which unfortunately shows how bland it is. Gun customization is basically cosmetic albeit the ability to change the underbarrel weapon. Who the f**k wants to put a silencer on a pulse rifle...that's just wrong.

All in all,it's worth a play for the nostalgia's sake.

QuoteJust played the first mission and someof the second, unfortunately this game sucks Sad Since I'm also a huge alien fan i really wanted to like it but besides the license there really isn't much to like.

Graphics are barely this gen. So imagine Quake4 from the launch window without the slowdowns but with framerate all over the place (it jumps between 25 and 60, at least thats how it feels). Heavy aliasing, shitty textures, shitty lighting, no mimic in character faces whatsoever. The "cutscenes" are super ugly, i couldn't believe it when i started the game up. Evern the start screen is low res :/.

Gameplay wise this is as generic as you can get. In the first mission alone i had like 10 situations where the npc said, cover me while I'm opening this door. Belive me its really that bad. The scripted events completely pull you out of the game and have never felt this clunky :/. AI is nonexistent just as a storyline, but I'm only like 45-60 Minutes into the game, so i won't bash it for that.

My first contender for biggest letdown 2013 Sad

Oh wonderful  :-[ :-\

It's hard to be objective when it comes to reviews. What are shitty textures? Is it a trademarked quality? Is Super Ugly a band?

Quote from: acrediblesource on Feb 07, 2013, 08:07:14 PM
It's hard to be objective when it comes to reviews. What are shitty textures? Is it a trademarked quality? Is Super Ugly a band?

I wouldn't qualify anything posted yet as an actual review, myself.

I'm waiting for reviews to come in on game websites, and then I'll just go by the most common score  :)

My friend got it earlier today, So we both played Co-op. I know there are Movie problems in the game, but you know what. The feel of the marine is quite good. And Because you don't have to worry about Predators at ALL the game keeps the scare factor. It's almost like AvP2 where it had you jump at times

Quote from: First Blood on Feb 07, 2013, 07:40:35 PM
Good thing my excitement level for this game is currently sitting at 10% rather than 100% -- beats not having to deal with being let down by this.

I'm with you dude. I don't really care too much anymore :/ I still talk about it and am excited to play it, but I feel like I know how it's going to go.

I hope I'm surprised, but I'm not surprised by much anymore :D Hopefully the DLC will be creative and bring some new things.

Reactions are worse than I expected. Sadly this shouldn't be a surprise, but it sort of is for me.

i also read that the game is pretty hard, u can die from 2 xeno attacks on soldier difficulty....so beware of ultimate badass according to this info


still wanna stick with the hardest diff :D

Ok, first impressions from the PS3 version.

After only 45 minutes with the game my feelings are mixed.
The environment so far is good. The graphics overall are definitely last gen.
There is nothing particularly wrong with them and they get the job done but they are not impressive either.
The character models are average. There is no actual facial animation. Only eyes and mouth movement. At least the lip sync is ok.
I like the lighting. The sound is probably the best part of this game. The pulse rifle and the motion tracker sound excellent. The music builds the tension nicely and pays homage to the movie. Searching for xenos with the motion tracker is really good. The beeps and the way they change according to distance and movement is spot on.

My main problem so far is with the Aliens themselves. For a game built around survival against uneven odds the Aliens should have been in the spotlight. They seem too weak and they are not scary. Even their size seems wrong. They are not fearful, imposing, deadly creatures like in the movie. The encounters with them have no weight and at times it feels as if you are shooting balloons that pop. The fact that the guns don't feel like packing a punch adds to that feeling too.

Pessimistic as I sound, the game still has the atmosphere of the movie. In that respect it is as authentic as it gets and if you can forgive its shortcomings I think it's safe to say that you don't need to cancel your pre-orders. It's still early to say but so far I think the game will be a solid 7 for generic fps fans and an 8 for the rest of us.

Damn it. I knew it. We all knew it. :-\ I would've picked extremely well-done Aliens over all of the extra stuff like weapon attachments that look like they were taken straight from a COD game and slapped onto a pulse rifle.

QuoteDamn it. I knew it. We all knew it.  I would've picked extremely well-done Aliens over all of the extra stuff like weapon attachments that look like they were taken straight from a COD game and slapped onto a pulse rifle.

I hear you. It's no fun if the Aliens themselves are so rubbish. Every gameplay vid i've seen so far have them running around like idiots, easy targets. I am literally fed up with having them as dumb canon fodder and not the intelligent, sneaky, scary lethal killers they used to be.  This game could have been a step above if they nailed the AI. That's what makes the Aliens so cool. They aren't- and shouldn't- ever be as the generic video-game enemies seen here.

It makes me sad to see them literally running towards you as you shoot them straight on, not doing anything and accepting death like morons. So much for the "perfect organism".

Ahh..well, i won't cancel my pre-order, i'll still play this game, but my expectations/reservations have been severely "demoralized", as Hudson would say.

I thought if they were following the successful Left 4 Dead model so closely that they'd at least take the most impressive part of the entire game: the AI Director.

I thought wrooong :D Sad fact given that you couldn't find a more fitting game to use an intelligent horde-handling program than Aliens...

Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 07, 2013, 10:07:52 PM
I thought if they were following the successful Left 4 Dead model so closely that they'd at least take the most impressive part of the entire game: the AI Director.

I thought wrooong :D Sad fact given that you couldn't find a more fitting game to use an intelligent horde-handling program than Aliens...

Same here, Rage. When I heard they were going for drop-in Co-Op that's exactly what I figured they'd do. Have the AI director in there to see when and where to best drop in aliens, and surprise the players each playthrough.

Bugger.

Watched the first 45 minutes or so with the Latino sounding fellow playing on youtube

(Leroy712plays) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPXBEmxnLfk#ws) that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:

• Dialogue is hammy.
• Textures are exceedingly low resolution.
• Alien Wrastlin'.
• 'Dumb' AI from your squadmates.
• His biggest scare so far was his squadmate warping through his screen from behind.
• Acid is ineffectual.
• Aliens queue up to be shot.
• Less than an hour in and it becomes a generic chest high walls cover shooter versus Weyland mercs.
• There was too much talking and exposition rather than trying to actually get on with surviving in the Hive
• Bodies clipping through floors/walls/doors
• Wey-Yu Marines spawning inside of walls during the second mission
• Squad Mates are completely immune to all non story designated damage
• Super Heavy armour mercs, 5-6 close range shotgun blasts to down them, sort of like the fat guys from Bulletstorm
• Great dialogue like "We'll wait for you son, but don't make us wait for ya!"
• Weyland mercs wearing baseball caps drop Marine helmets when they die
• Armour pickups come as helmets/chest pieces, you can however pick up four helmets in a row and wear them all at once for ultimate realism!
• Blowing the legs off a Xeno, it CANT crawl along the floor at you any more like AVP99 etc.
• In fact, it appears any body damage (legs, arms, feet, etc.) that results in a gib is an instant kill, even though we know in the novelization that the Xeno in Alien loses an arm and is just fine
• AI using consoles - hands hover two to three inches above the console not actually touching it.
• The Bishop model with you knows exactly how long the chestburster takes to mature and what a facehugger looks like after it has laid it's egg. Possible plot device (evil Bishop working for Wey-Yu) or possible oversight in the script
• Bella and Reid bugged and he walked past them while on the mission to look for them
• Alien gibs can get stuck in walls/ceilings, leaving hands, tails, legs and arms sticking out of various surfaces. One hand stuck in the ceiling looked like it was waving at him and freaked him out in the sewer.
• Boilers are rather ridiculous, walking animation makes them look like they've cacked themselves.
• White Husks on the Raven level are supposed to be dead Aliens. They can't be dead from the nuke, because some of them are dead Boilers who are mutated from the nuke, so they must have starved to death. However, some have starved to death mid-roar (Warriors) standing up (Boilers).
• Power Loader boss fight is ridiculously badly animated, it becomes a game of power loader boxing, with a boss who bugs and glitches out mini teleporting around the arena. It's almost like some sort of first person boxing game for the Wii.
• Spitters died very easily doing next to no damage and very inaccurate. They shot at the AI companions more than you, and your companions are immune to damage, making them a bit pointless as enemies.
• Xeno's are immune to damage until 'activated' in game. You can't surprise them at all it seems. Spitters go down to 4-5 pulse rifle bullets, yet he put a whole clip into one on the ceiling and was getting hits (red hit indicators and acid splashes) walked forward a few steps and then it activated and moved off to attack him, dying to one small burst ten seconds later.
• Glitchy Spitters can occasionally shoot through walls.
• Marines are obviously on massive amounts of 'roids, O'Neal kicks down a metal rimmed reinforced glass panel door in one kick, not just opening it but knocking it clear off it's hinges.
• O'Neal and Bella AI glitchess out in the Origin Facility leaving them standing infront of multiple sentry turrets, while playing the wounded animation over and over while immune to the actual bullets.
• Marine walking animations do not actually always contact the ground, several instances in part 14 of O'Neil and Bella hovering two-three feet from the ground.
• Bella conveniently made it just to the operating table before it hatched, where she and O'Neal spend so much time talking and loving it up that he doesn't get to put a bullet in her before it hatches. Presumably this was just to add extra tension but it seems really contrived.
• The face-hugged marines in the Wey-Yu holding labs all had the exact same skin, hair and pose, octuplets!
• Knocking out an APC using a crane requires you to, wait for it... hold down the use button. No interactivity, just hole down the button for awesome!
• Several instances in part 16 of Wey Yu mercs not reacting to an ally dying within a couple of yards of them.
• Hicks being alive, the whole things was f**king stupid to begin with yet alone badly done in game.
• Hicks and Reid dramatically take an APC to escape while you, Cruz and O'Neal remain behind to... go to the same place as Hicks and Reid. Surely we could have shared the same APC, or is this a new two seater model?
• Major bug during part 18 where your allies don't react to the fact you've entered Hadleys, and the mission objective fails to update.
• Marines that you have to save will continue to do the same looped animation and fight off screen xenos indefinitely until you rescue them.
• We leave no marine behind, except for the wounded marines as you re-enter Hadleys and....
• ....for no apparent reason, all the marines you rescue get left behind during the garage defence event and play no further part in the campaign (so far).
• Cruz states repeatedly how many Marines are left active (63 as of part 19) yet you only see eight or so during your missions, where are the rest, and why aren't we grouping up?
• Aliens hit by the flamethrower show blood the same as when they are shot
• The flamethrower fire graphic is much, much worse than AVP10[/lb]
• Aliens on fire stand and pat themselves down trying to put the flames out.
• Controller auto-aim constantly moves towards the targets head, even though there is no hitboxes. (first minute of part 21 shows this best)
• The rocket launcher fires almost as fast as the sniper rifle? How?
• The flamethrower actually fires slightly left of the center of the screen, not bang center.
• On level that are raining, raid continues to fall down your face even when you are underneath cover.
• Queen teleports about the last battle arena.
• Queen fight is absolutely contrived, awful ending.

It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:

• Fighting the Lurker in the nest was very atmospheric.
• Facehuggers made him shit his little girl panties.
• Weapons sound very good, like being in the film.
• Motion tracker is again, very authentic.
• Body destruction and gibbing is cool
• Raven section was very tense and scared him

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And at the end, a critique of the reviewer:

• He frequently complains that the motion tracker gives an all clear and that enemies then spawn from nowhere. No- they just wern't moving!
• He complains about ammo shortages and armour shortages without picking up all the available pickups, the ones that are flashing blue so you can't miss them!
• He has such awful aiming when shooting down the sights that enemies do more damage to him than he should take, plus the obvious of wasting alot of ammo. I should note that he is playing on the XBOX, and so obviously it's not going to be as easy to aim as on Pc because of console control limitations.
• He is often made to jump by simply not seeing things in front of him, Aliens moving to flank him and in a couple of occaisions marines crouched down behind cover. If he spent an extra second or two looking instead of talking he might have noticed them.
• He frequently complains about viewers complaining that he is critiquing the game too harshly. However this is compounded by the fact he spends much of the review reacting negatively to aspects of the game, before reacting positively to them at a later date. EG: "The game is ugly and the AI is dumb" - "Oh god that's so cool, sometime the game looks really good and the AI isn't so dumb." - "The game is really, really poor." - "The game is pretty decent." - Make up your damn mind!
• How can you get lost so often in a corridor shooter?
• Remarks that the Space Jockey was "that horrible thing from Prometheus, such a bad movie. Well not a bad movie, but I expected more from the guy who brought us Aliens!" Ummm. What?
• He's trying rather hard to be amusing. He isn't.
• He uses the weapons secondary attack maybe half a dozen times during the entire campaign.

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Part 11 just went up. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup. 74 Wey-Yu mercs toasted in mission 2, 142 kills within the first hour, authentic yo. I'm actually going to keep a little log in here of how many kills he gets each mission, just so we can see how over the top Gearbox have gone.

1: 68 Xenos
2: 74 Wey-Yu
3: 64 Wey-Yu + Xenos
4: 71 Xenos
5: 62 Xenos
6: 65 Wey-Yu + Xenos (video cuts off before score screen is displayed, average from above levels would be around 65 kills)
7: 67 Wey-Yu + Xenos
8: 87 Wey-Yu + Xenos
9: 65 Xenos (video cuts off before score screen is displayed, average from above levels would be around 65 kills)
10: 96 Wey-Yu + Xenos
11:  Queen - End of Game



Edit: Editted a couple of things, in bold.[/list]

QuoteThe biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Good job Gearbox, way to be unique.

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 12:58:57 AM

Quote68 Xeno's down in the first mission.

Good job Gearbox, way to be unique.

They're wall to wall in there...

Quote from: Njm1983 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:05:37 AM
They're wall to wall in there...

Those guys in Aliens were so whiney. They could have handled the aliens easily if they just walked into the tunnel with their guns ready.

Take em all down.

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 12:58:57 AM

QuoteThe biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Good job Gearbox, way to be unique.

Pitchford had his hard-on right down the barrel of Hicks shotgun, while oblivious to the obvious threat the xenomorphs were.

QuoteI thought I got lucky and bought the game last friday from a shop who clearly had no idea about it's release date, and I have played through the campaign on normal once. And I got bored about halfway through.

The game is buggy, you can walk inside your companions and enemies get stuck. There is a lot of down time waiting for doors to open while your companions chat away. Probably to mask load times, but it's so obvious that it gets old fast.

Ai for both companions and enemies are bad. It just kills the atmosphere when you have your companion and an Alien having a boxing match until you help out. The Aliens aren't very scary since they seem so slow, and if they come to close, as they often will, you'll have to melee them or trow them off with a quick time event. To make matters worse they are badly animated too.

The implementation of the motion tracking sensor doesn't work so well. The screen is too small and the levels dark, so when you finally get yourself orientated the Aliens are on top of you anyway. Just get used to using the shotgun and upgrade all your rifles with one too.

I think the reviews of Aliens: Colonial Marines will probably be about 6-7 on average.

And that is too bad since I had high hopes for this to. But maybe the mp or coop is more fun, but I wouldn't hold my breath...

QuoteI was very disappointed at least so I thought I should tell people. The main problem might be that as a sp game this is not very good, or very scary as you'd hope for in a game version of Aliens.

It seems to have been designed around coop and that deflates all tension. Ai companions shout out long before you see Aliens so there isn't really a need for the motion tracker.

I haven't said anything about the story not to spoil anything, but there really isn't much too spoil either as the story is not the main focus at all. You are running from objective to objective in a linear shooting spree that unfortunately reminds me of Cod....

He uploaded videos to prove it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws)

http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html (http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html)

Quote from: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
Watched the first 45 minutes or so with the Latino sounding fellow playing on youtube that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:

• Dialogue is hammy.
• Textures are exceedingly low resolution.
• Alien Wrastlin'.
• 'Dumb' AI from your squadmates.
• His biggest scare so far was his squadmate warping through his screen from behind.
• Acid is ineffectual.
• Aliens queue up to be shot.
• Less than an hour in and it becomes a generic chest high walls cover shooter versus Weyland mercs.
• There was too much talking and exposition rather than trying to actually get on with surviving in the Hive

It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:

• Fighting the Lurker in the nest was very atmospheric.
• Facehuggers made him shit his little girl panties.
• Weapons sound very good, like being in the film.
• Motion tracker is again, very authentic.

That was about it before part 3 finished, part 4 isn't uploaded yet. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Extremely disappointing to read. It was the same way with the marine campaign in AVP2010. There's still hope for multiplayer, though...

 Amended my post, having found part 4. Added his new complaints to the list, no new plus points though :(

Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:55 AM

Quote from: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
Watched the first 45 minutes or so with the Latino sounding fellow playing on youtube that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:

• Dialogue is hammy.
• Textures are exceedingly low resolution.
• Alien Wrastlin'.
• 'Dumb' AI from your squadmates.
• His biggest scare so far was his squadmate warping through his screen from behind.
• Acid is ineffectual.
• Aliens queue up to be shot.
• Less than an hour in and it becomes a generic chest high walls cover shooter versus Weyland mercs.
• There was too much talking and exposition rather than trying to actually get on with surviving in the Hive

It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:

• Fighting the Lurker in the nest was very atmospheric.
• Facehuggers made him shit his little girl panties.
• Weapons sound very good, like being in the film.
• Motion tracker is again, very authentic.

That was about it before part 3 finished, part 4 isn't uploaded yet. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Extremely disappointing to read. It was the same way with the marine campaign in AVP2010. There's still hope for multiplayer, though...

I think it says something that I found the live stream portions of the multi-player to actually be more fun than the campaign we saw. Looks like actually playing the campaign will be as shit as it was in AvP 2010.


Lol, just saw the edited post of the pros and cons...142 kills in the first hour...with two Marines...brilliant, just f**king brilliant.

Quote from: Sully on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:01 AM

QuoteI thought I got lucky and bought the game last friday from a shop who clearly had no idea about it's release date, and I have played through the campaign on normal once. And I got bored about halfway through.

The game is buggy, you can walk inside your companions and enemies get stuck. There is a lot of down time waiting for doors to open while your companions chat away. Probably to mask load times, but it's so obvious that it gets old fast.

Ai for both companions and enemies are bad. It just kills the atmosphere when you have your companion and an Alien having a boxing match until you help out. The Aliens aren't very scary since they seem so slow, and if they come to close, as they often will, you'll have to melee them or trow them off with a quick time event. To make matters worse they are badly animated too.

The implementation of the motion tracking sensor doesn't work so well. The screen is too small and the levels dark, so when you finally get yourself orientated the Aliens are on top of you anyway. Just get used to using the shotgun and upgrade all your rifles with one too.

I think the reviews of Aliens: Colonial Marines will probably be about 6-7 on average.

And that is too bad since I had high hopes for this to. But maybe the mp or coop is more fun, but I wouldn't hold my breath...

QuoteI was very disappointed at least so I thought I should tell people. The main problem might be that as a sp game this is not very good, or very scary as you'd hope for in a game version of Aliens.

It seems to have been designed around coop and that deflates all tension. Ai companions shout out long before you see Aliens so there isn't really a need for the motion tracker.

I haven't said anything about the story not to spoil anything, but there really isn't much too spoil either as the story is not the main focus at all. You are running from objective to objective in a linear shooting spree that unfortunately reminds me of Cod....

He uploaded videos to prove it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZB0Rjn9qyM#ws)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GdJhSxK2X8#ws)

http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html (http://www.ps3trophies.org/forum/aliens-colonial-marines/187966-lower-your-expectations.html)

Yep...this pretty much settles it for me. As I said before, I am definitely going to buy this game for very cheap, and used.

Despite my horrendous disappointment, this whole page had me laughing freaking hard. :laugh:

I guess I haven't been keeping up on current events, but that first video... he straight rubs on that Alien's face around the 3:30 mark. He rubs it, all up on it man! Why does this have to happen?

The only people to ever rub an Alien's face have had theirs almost immediately eaten. But of course, the Alien has to hiss and scream for no real purpose instead of attack, like an angered but not very dangerous dog.

And that's how they begin the game? With a good Alien face grope? God help us.

They wag their tails too. Watch as the first alien jumps down from the wall. His tail sure is a'waggin (because he knows he's about to get cuddles on his face.)

Just like Avpaliens... These are just Anderson AvP aliens, that's what they forgot to mention. The game is now great. ;)

Short review from a woman who is from England I believe. She gave it an 8 outta 10.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/columnist/2013/02/08/cheryl-mullin-aliens-colonial-marines-100252-32768147/ (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/columnist/2013/02/08/cheryl-mullin-aliens-colonial-marines-100252-32768147/)

So Dog Alien confirmed then? I had hoped so, even assumed, but never heard confirmation from anyone. Best news so far, easily.

Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

That's my thing. If it's fun and brings me back for more than I am okay with it. I mean, I will be satisfied, not happy, as long as ACM is better overall than AVP 2010. Which should not be hard to do.

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 03:39:41 AM

Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

That's my thing. If it's fun and brings me back for more than I am okay with it. I mean, I will be satisfied, not happy, as long as ACM is better overall than AVP 2010. Which should not be hard to do.

F@#king right, have fun man everyone is tearing this game a new asshole. Im right there with ya, im actually digging the vids Ive seen so far cant wait.

In all fairness, Gearbox does make some fun games. Even if it fails on strictly 'Aliens' levels for me, there's still a lot to like about it. At least it looks like they have a decent enough amount of content and some effort went into it.

AvP2010 really felt kind of limited. At least we've got the major functions of most games here, such as ducking. :laugh: I think I'll have some love/hate things about the game similar to how I felt about Prometheus. Too early to tell the final verdict yet, but this dog alien news really has my nipples at attention......

Bug Hunt could be a blast to, and for that price they have to include at least 4 maps.

Quote from: Corporate Merc on Feb 08, 2013, 04:21:08 AM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 03:39:41 AM

Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

That's my thing. If it's fun and brings me back for more than I am okay with it. I mean, I will be satisfied, not happy, as long as ACM is better overall than AVP 2010. Which should not be hard to do.

F@#king right, have fun man everyone is tearing this game a new asshole. Im right there with ya, im actually digging the vids Ive seen so far cant wait.

I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

It's like, whenever someone has anything negative to say, there seem to be two or three people around who feel compelled to completely marginalize critical opinions. No. It isn't that people have any super high standards. It's what Gearbox is saying. If you can shrug off a developers own words and say "I don't care that they lie to my face. I just want a fun experience." That's on you. Don't postulate that other people just like to tear things apart. We don't.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 04:40:25 AM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

It's like, whenever someone has anything negative to say, there seem to be two or three people around who feel compelled to completely marginalize critical opinions. No. It isn't that people have any super high standards. It's what Gearbox is saying. If you can shrug off a developers own words and say "I don't care that they lie to my face. I just want a fun experience." That's on you. Don't postulate that other people just like to tear things apart. We don't.

Developers always say stuff like GBX does. Just like boxing promoters promise the best fight of all-time.

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:54:01 AM
Developers always say stuff like GBX does. Just like boxing promoters promise the best fight of all-time.

...That's a bunch of crap. When they flat out lie about a feature, or intentionally mislead the audience, or promise absolute accuracy, they deserve absolute scrutiny.

I try my best to always take what developers say with a grain of salt, because you never know if they're lying, or just getting way too overexcited about the game they are making and promise too much. I learned quickly to ignore what Peter Molynuex said about his games, and just play the games for what they were. And It's the same with this game. I haven't been listening to much of the "authentic" crap that Gearbox has been spewing, because to me it doesn't matter. If the game plays well, and I'm having fun, then I feel like my money was well spent.

Honestly, I hope the game does well. Because I would love to see what Gearbox could do with a stand alone sequel. Granted, they would actually have to learn some big lessons from this game. But I think they could. They fixed a lot fo the problems I had with Borderlands when making Borderlands 2, and BL2 went on to be one of my favorite games last year.

My first impressions after playing six chapters (X360):

• Ultimate Badass mode is the only way to play it. The aliens are actually semi threatening at this difficulty and the WY mercs will sometimes be frustratingly hard to beat. The AI for the mercs is actually quite good, they take cover, throw grenades and try to flank. I've been killed many times when a merc flanked and shot me from behind. Sadly, the mercs are much tougher than the aliens, it's actually a relief when you get back to shooting aliens, because they're easier. Btw, if you also decide to play on ultimate badass difficulty, be prepared to pull your hair out at some times. Some parts of the levels are ridiculously hard and checkpoints come very irregularly.
• The companion AI blows hard. You can never rely on them to cover a flank, you have to constantly babysit them and save their sorry asses. They also can't hit the broad side of a barn.
• The game is riddled with bugs. Some scripted events get jacked up and you have to replay from a checkpoint and try again. I've encountered a very disturbing bug where suddenly the screen was filled by a enormous (like 100x size) WY merc body model lying on the ground. 
• Graphics suck ass. The look of the game is very dated, looks worse than Halo 2 on Xbox sometimes. There are inconsistencies in level of quality, some levels look better than others. Makes you think that some levels were completed long ago and some more recently. But overall, the textures are very low-res and the level of detail transformations are clumsy, you have to be literally standing next to an object to view it in max res. There seems to be no anti-aliasing or anisotropic filtering (looks like bilinear actually, ugh), so there are lots of jaggies. The game also suffers from a lot of screen tearing, but I've seen that in a few other games too, but it's annoying nonetheless.
• The game is very linear, you have no freedom to go where you want. Corridors and doors are barricaded everywhere.
• Story wise, the game feels lacking. You don't care much for the characters and the characters don't seem to be that bothered with what's going on. I haven't yet played it all through (probably in late game chapters now, though) and it does seem to become better once you get past some filler levels.
• The level in the derelict is very disappointing.

On a more positive note:

• Killing aliens is fun. Hearing that sweet authentic pulse rifle sound is very satisfying.  The smartgun also kick ass, though the targeting system could be better (doesn't always go for nearest target). The shotguns are also cool, incendiary rounds kick ass.
• The motion tracker is useful and gives the game a  somewhat unique feel.

Quote from: teras on Feb 07, 2013, 09:34:53 PM
The fact that the guns don't feel like packing a punch adds to that feeling too.

This is the same for every GBX game. All the guns in their games feel like toys, not like real guns.

So can anyone confirm whether or not there is a MP map that resembles Fury 161?

Something tells me multiplayer is where the main focus is...

Quote from: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 07:46:02 AM
Something tells me multiplayer is where the main focus is...

Fine by me. MP has more replay value than SP anyway. If that is a letdown then I will be pissed.

And that's what they call "The Aliens sequel we never got".  ::)
It remind me so much of Strause brother claiming it is the Predator and Alien film "we've all been waiting for."
The story looks stupid anyway and completely lack the Immersive side. It just feels they wanted to bring you directly into the game so you can be happy that "yeah there are aliens and I'm shooting at them zomg!!!".
They've just shown less than an hour and the script already show how stupid it is with guy killing himself with a grenade, blowing a ship, a girl that has been infected but nobody gives a damn while someone a minute ago just died cos of a chestburster. The ship which land in the hanger is just... meh?

I don't know WTF is going on with all AI Alien/AVP game had.
It's like games like this were never intended to be played in Single Player just like AVP2 and AVP2010 having some of the most retarded AI system I've ever played. I just feel that Gearbox has give to the AI a whole new level of stupidity to be an equal to its predecessor.

The game seems very linear and Humans combat sound so boring. (And what's up with the character Model? I feels like there are only 3 WY guard model. It looks very repetitive).

I think a lot have already been said about graphics, though, it's not the PC version so you never know for real what it is going to like on your system BUT nothing is impressive so far and some level design fells short.

I'm not quite fan yet of the Alien hive texture. Dunno what's going on with this fashion to put Orange everywhere in the Lightning but I'm definitely not a fan of it. I'd rather have dark blueish atmosphere with a lot of haze / fog in the air than an hollywood blockbuster color correction shit ala Transformers.


Overall, I feel that this game is just like AVP2010: Released as a Beta stage.
I can't believe that even the first screenshot we got of the game looked better than the actual footage.
I suspect some smart 3DS Max/Vray render but anyway, they were very ambitious at the beginning. Making us see we would see human cities in the future, futuristic base on an asteroid, different location and possibly even some ALIEN³ locations and Hadley's hope as well.
But nah, they just want everything to be set on LV-426 in three location that we already know.

First impressions: The issue I've seen that really bugs me is the Alien's AI. After watching the game play I've seen several instants were Aliens just stand there and do nothing. Perhaps this is a difficulty setting and hopefully in Ultimate Bad-Ass mode it will be different were the Aliens try to kill you ( Some of the human AI could use some tweaks to). Some of the game bugs I've seen haven't impressed me either; people, and Aliens glitching through doors floors, and etc. I mean come on, Gearbox has been working on this game for how long, and the game looks this buggy? I'm hoping the graphics are better on the PC then the consoles but when I was watching the live stream the graphics looked great (It also could have been the quality of the stream/video. Sources: IGN live stream and Leeroy712Plays). I understand for balance reasons why you can't equip a M56 Smartgun right away in MP but in campaign I'm hoping you can equip it (My fav weapon in the Aliens universe). I think acid should should do more damage, granted I've only seen difficult set on soldier but still you should always have to worry about it. I love how much detail they put in the game. What I've seen looks great, the Sulaco and Hadley's Hope look amazing, and I can't wait to play the game and explore. I'm hoping that in the future they have a non Alien infested Sulaco and a non blown up Hadley's Hope in a DLC to play on. The nerd I am would love to act out scenes from Aliens. Like the first battle against the Aliens in the Atmospheric Processor, to the final stand at Hadley's (Maybe I could save Drake or Hudson, or both? That would have made for an interesting twist to the movie.) After everything I've seen so far I'm still really excited to play the game. The concept of their story I like, how they went about to bring it to life I don't like from what I've seen. I mean the chestburster part and the grenade, common really? I could have wrote a better part. However the story still has my attention, how did the Sulaco get back to LV-426? How and why to Weyland-Yutani breed Aliens on the Sulaco? From trailers it seems that either Hicks or Hundson survived (I'm thinking Hicks, maybe both, that would be epic!) and did they help WY with their research? I can't wait to play to find out.

Game is really easy, even on Hard... standard aliens aren't much of a threat up close, which kind defeats the purpose - they need several hits to kill you, and before they do you have ample time to either melee (which actually works) or point blank shotgun, as there's close to no acid damage. Even alien corpses.
Shotgun is also very overpowered, as it has sick range and you can easily kill one of them with 2 shots, at worst. Even at a distance.
Human ennemies are more challenging indeed, but I ain't playing an Aliens game to fight humans... Chapters 2 and 3 really were a chore to go through (95% of ennemies are human).
Lurkers are the more interesting foes, as they actually try to hide and flank instead of (slowly) going up to you like standard ones (Drones). But even they aren't really a challenge, as even when they get up close and grab you it doesn't mean instant death - you can mash X and push them away, rinse and repeat.

Ambiance wise the game really picks up by Chapter 4, in my opinion that should have been the beginning of the game.

In how many chapters exactly we are encountering a human enemies? If they are present in just 2 chapters its not that much of a deal I suppose.

I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.

By the way, with all the bugs and glitches...Do we know if we're getting a day 1 patch?

Quote from: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
By the way, with all the bugs and glitches...Do we know if we're getting a day 1 patch?

I would hope/think so. None of these early players will get it obviously until the 12th.

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

Disregard that, I encountered more of them later on, but not as much as in the first levels, fortunately.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.

Damn, this game isn't even worth playing if you can beat this in 6 hours on Hardened.

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 09:58:19 AM

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.

Damn, this game isn't even worth playing if you can beat this in 6 hours on Hardened.

I beat Halo 4 in like, 5 and 1/2 on normal by myself. The next difficulty would have maybe tacked on 2 hours.

Yeah, on Legendary you are just forced to retreat plenty of times, backtrack for supplies or wait for the shield to recharge itself, if I played it on Normal I'd have finished it 3 times already.

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And of course if you want to get certain achievements while playing Solo on Legendary, that time is extended even further...

But I gave up on that "Bros to the Close" achievement, on Legendary Solo I always lost 1 guy at worst...If my checkpoints saved tad differently I would manage to do it, but my last one when I had 6 bros was not a good checkpoint, so I decided to screw it and replay those couple of checkpoints on Heroic...

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 10:04:33 AM

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 09:58:19 AM

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 09:22:29 AM
You shouldn't be too far away from the ending. The game is pretty short. I've heard 2 guys finished on Hardened for 6 hours without rushing or anything.

Damn, this game isn't even worth playing if you can beat this in 6 hours on Hardened.

I beat Halo 4 in like, 5 and 1/2 on normal by myself. The next difficulty would have maybe tacked on 2 hours.

6 hours on Hardened sucks, can't even imagine how much less it would be to play the game on Normal. I sure f**king hope that the game is awesome with all the stuff that could happen in each level, because that is what will redeem the time it takes to beat it.

Quote from: DiabloGuapo on Feb 08, 2013, 03:28:22 AM
Based on the videos that I've seen, I like it and I'm still looking forward to playing it. Is it perfect? No, but it still looks fun. It looks no worse than AvP2010, and believe it or not, I like that game. Hammy dialoge, so what. It's no worse than any other FPS. The graphics look fine to me, then again I'm not too picky. Sure, the Alien AI could be more stealthy and acid could do more damage, but the game has to be playable. Could you imagine trying to survive a xenomorph encounter if they were like the ones from the movies? You'll never be able to get pass the first level. I think everyone set their expectations too high and are being too hard on it. I know it's been hyped up about being a "canon" game, but remember that it's a game first and foremost. I think fans would find something to complain about regardless of what's in it. Remember, it's just a game, have fun with it.

Words taken out of my mouth.

Everybody is looking forward to play it. Everybody will try it no matter what either if he rent it, buy it, torrent it, play it in a friend, steal it etc. But that's not the point.

Some of the criticisms are justifiably needed in my opinion. As someone who only plays single player in fps games, this means the entire game is around 6-7 hours long for me, with numerous mistakes, bugs, glitches, bad game-play and inauthenticity.

Co-Op and Multiplayer might very well redeem the game, but as I wouldn't touch them with a 10 ft barge pole, it's irrelevant to me.

Quote from: Dovahkiin on Feb 08, 2013, 01:25:55 AM

Quote from: Elicas on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:54 AM
Watched the first 45 minutes or so with the Latino sounding fellow playing on youtube that Ikarop posted in the stickied video thread. He went from jacked up about playing A:CM to sighing with irritation within the first half an hour.

His complaints:

• Dialogue is hammy.
• Textures are exceedingly low resolution.
• Alien Wrastlin'.
• 'Dumb' AI from your squadmates.
• His biggest scare so far was his squadmate warping through his screen from behind.
• Acid is ineffectual.
• Aliens queue up to be shot.
• Less than an hour in and it becomes a generic chest high walls cover shooter versus Weyland mercs.
• There was too much talking and exposition rather than trying to actually get on with surviving in the Hive

It wasn't all doom and gloom however, bright points included:

• Fighting the Lurker in the nest was very atmospheric.
• Facehuggers made him shit his little girl panties.
• Weapons sound very good, like being in the film.
• Motion tracker is again, very authentic.

That was about it before part 3 finished, part 4 isn't uploaded yet. I'll watch the walkthrough online to see just how bad it really is, but I've cancelled my pre-order. It looks so bad as to not even be worth pirating!

The biggest thing I noted, was how the Aliens are reduced to generic Stormtrooper status. According to his score screen on normal, 68 Xeno's down in the first mission. With a two man squad. Yup.

Extremely disappointing to read. It was the same way with the marine campaign in AVP2010. There's still hope for multiplayer, though...

tbh it sounds worst than avp2010, aliens are scary in that one and fast and hard to kill

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

Any new aliens encountered?

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 09:37:38 AM

Quote from: Speedy_J on Feb 08, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
By the way, with all the bugs and glitches...Do we know if we're getting a day 1 patch?

I would hope/think so. None of these early players will get it obviously until the 12th.

There is a day-one 106MB patch for the PS3 version.

Watched parts 5+6 and amended my post on page 3 accordingly. Half a dozen more negatives, one new positive. Your now three marine squad currently has over 300 kills, no casualties (in combat anyway).

Im so sad... I´ve been waiting for this game for so long... :(

We all did, bro. I was saying how bad this game is going to be, I was pointing its flaws here and there but (almost) no one listened, more of the users called me a troll back then. After the first ever mp footage I was sure where this is going.

so u want a medal for it or what? because what u were guessing is true ?

we are already depressed and upset enough because of the reviews no need for this really

Guessing? No, I was sure.

Quote from: The Runner on Feb 08, 2013, 11:43:59 AM

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

Any new aliens encountered?

Standard Drones, Lurkers, Spitters, creepy explosive ones  and

Spoiler

something akin to a Praetorian in size with a skull face that acts as a boss you have to defeat using a power loader

[close]

I'm nearing the end of my playthrough ... seriously guys, this game is bad. Honestly.
And that's coming from a die hard fan, I played all principal games that this franchise spawned... this one is by far the worst. Bad graphics, bad level design, shit ennemy AI, difficulty is either stupid or non existent... it's unpolished as f**k, bugs and glitches everywhere, and the plot is a joke.
This game has nothing going on for it except wacky fan service. Yeah we got it, it's cool to go through the sets of the movie, but if Gearbox thought this would be enough they were either truly mistaking, or taking us players/fans for a bunch of fools.

... multiplayer better be fun (and not too laggy like AvP2010), or else people are going to feel buyer's remorse. Bad.

I already feel f**kING BUYER'S REMORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

first Prometheus , now this :D

at least that movie has quality look

so after a decade they still havent gotten it right and avp2 2001 is the better game still...

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 12:29:45 PM
I already feel f**kING BUYER'S REMORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So trade it or sell it... no big deal?

if its that bad really im guessing someone who called the creative manager will lose his job

Quote from: piff on Feb 08, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
so after a decade they still havent gotten it right and avp2 2001 is the better game still...

That sounds about right.
I'm trying to remain as objective as possible, but even as a fan, trying to find bits and pieces of redeeming qualities, can't help but face the fact the game is a mess. You know when it's almost a chore to play through it something is wrong.
Dunno what they've been doing for 4 years, this has to be some kind of sick joke.

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Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:35:24 PM

Quote from: piff on Feb 08, 2013, 12:33:30 PM
so after a decade they still havent gotten it right and avp2 2001 is the better game still...

That sounds about right.
I'm trying to remain as objective as possible, but even as a fan, trying to find bits and pieces of redeeming qualities, can't help but face the fact the game is a mess. You know when it's almost a chore to play through it something is wrong.
Dunno what they've been doing for 4 years, this has to be some kind of sick joke.

Can i ask please... what games do you like play generally? Whats your fav game of this current gen....

Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:40:05 PMCan i ask please... what games do you like play generally? Whats your fav game of this current gen....

When it comes to shooters, I mostly played the Halo series and Battlefield. Never liked CoD, haven't touched any of those since CoD4.
Dunno if that's gonna help... I would understand if people would rather give the benefit of the doubt and see for themselves... by any means, please do. That's also what I did, reserved my judgement until I got my hands of the game. And I was utterly disappointed. I'd take AvP2010 Campaign over this one's anyday, that says a lot.

Disapointing to see this game being blasted all to hell :/

Canon? Nope!lolz.

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:46:13 PM

Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:40:05 PMCan i ask please... what games do you like play generally? Whats your fav game of this current gen....

When it comes to shooters, I mostly played the Halo series and Battlefield. Never liked CoD, haven't touched any of those since CoD4.
Dunno if that's gonna help... I would understand if people would rather give the benefit of the doubt and see for themselves... by any means, please do. That's also what I did, reserved my judgement until I got my hands of the game. And I was utterly disappointed. I'd take AvP2010 Campaign over this one's anyday, that says a lot.

.... oh bugger!(good answers imo!) Oh well lets hope mp is good!? I am more of a multiplayer fan anyway... when there are no kids fcukin up the chat ect ect!!

Quote from: LogansFolly on Feb 08, 2013, 12:55:02 PM
.... oh bugger!(good answers imo!) Oh well lets hope mp is good!? I am more of a multiplayer fan anyway... when there are no kids fcukin up the chat ect ect!!

If you want my opinion, MP has the potential to be better than AvP2010's, and maybe on par with AvP2 - there's a lot of customization so the fans will be much more pleased than the very limited options AvP2010 had, and the concept of class based xenos is a solid mechanic, AvP2 proved it. I'm only fearing lag. Still have bad memories from AvP2010's MP in that regard... and let's be realistic, what are the chances they can provide a lag free game when they seem to suck at everything else so far ?

All I see is inconsistent bitching from everyone on this forum day in, day out.

You are all whining about something you have yet to play.

Fan-based reviews are biased, everyone that is a fan usually sets their expectations way too goddamn high, and most company-based reviews require a bribe or a bandwagon to give a positive review.


Instead of being mindless sheep with no opinion for yourselves, worthlessly only taking the opinion of people that got an early copy or got paid a salary to write a few paragraph's about something, why don't you actually play the game before judging it? The entire point of video game reviews is pointless unless you share the exact same needs, preferences, and personality as the person writing the review.

Idiots.

And for those of you that have an early copy, I honestly don't give a flying f**k about Graphics, AI, or the like. I'm getting this game mostly for the multiplayer and because i'm a die-hard fan, so I would like to know what happens in the story. That's all.

wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros

but why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)

wich gives the question what the F are u doing here?

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros

Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)

That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?

Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 12:25:35 PM

Quote from: The Runner on Feb 08, 2013, 11:43:59 AM

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 09:20:31 AM
I'm at Chapter 6 and so far I only encountered them in Chapters 2 and 3. Hopefully it stays that way.

Any new aliens encountered?

Standard Drones, Lurkers, Spitters, creepy explosive ones  and

Spoiler

something akin to a Praetorian in size with a skull face that acts as a boss you have to defeat using a power loader

[close]

I'm nearing the end of my playthrough ... seriously guys, this game is bad. Honestly.
And that's coming from a die hard fan, I played all principal games that this franchise spawned... this one is by far the worst. Bad graphics, bad level design, shit ennemy AI, difficulty is either stupid or non existent... it's unpolished as f**k, bugs and glitches everywhere, and the plot is a joke.
This game has nothing going on for it except wacky fan service. Yeah we got it, it's cool to go through the sets of the movie, but if Gearbox thought this would be enough they were either truly mistaking, or taking us players/fans for a bunch of fools.

... multiplayer better be fun (and not too laggy like AvP2010), or else people are going to feel buyer's remorse. Bad.

argh... It's THAT bad huh? Dammit!!!!

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros

Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)

That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?

Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.

u saw it was the case with Prometheus last year aswell , the EXACT same case...we got bad reviews from fans aswell so we dare to believe its not good, glitches are glitches, dumb enemies are dumb enemies , linear stages are linear stages, short gametime is short gametime...u cant argue with these...and mostly these are my problems here with ACM

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:10:53 PM
All I see is inconsistent bitching from everyone on this forum day in, day out.

You are all whining about something you have yet to play.

Fan-based reviews are biased, everyone that is a fan usually sets their expectations way too goddamn high, and most company-based reviews require a bribe or a bandwagon to give a positive review.


Instead of being mindless sheep with no opinion for yourselves, worthlessly only taking the opinion of people that got an early copy or got paid a salary to write a few paragraph's about something, why don't you actually play the game before judging it? The entire point of video game reviews is pointless unless you share the exact same needs, preferences, and personality as the person writing the review.

Idiots.

And for those of you that have an early copy, I honestly don't give a flying f**k about Graphics, AI, or the like. I'm getting this game mostly for the multiplayer and because i'm a die-hard fan, so I would like to know what happens in the story. That's all.

So, what exactly are you doing in a thread called Fan Reviews?
??? ???

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

My thoughts exactly.

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros

Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)

That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?

Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.

Agreed with this guy, to be fair he has a point fan reviews are mostly subjective rather than objective, expectations set far to high. While currently looking at the game, yes it isn't going to be a 9 or 10. It's definitely not perfect but It still might be a half decent game. Personally I would wait for a official reviews since they are not subjective at all, they are paid to give a objective opinion on the game and look at both the positives and negatives.

Who knows, they might find more positives that you think. Just chill guys  :)

Edit: Yes I know this thread is based around fan reviews, we can still talk about published reviews. Hell some guy already posted a official article review in this forum.

Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PM

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!

No, give it to ID how it was originally planned back in the 90s.

my fear is not based on opinions but facts

Quote from: Soffish on Feb 08, 2013, 01:33:30 PM

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
wow smartass...guess what i've read dozens of FAN reviews...and the contras alwasy was more then the pros

Fan reviews.
Biased.

Quotebut why am i talking to u we are just whining little bitches u dont want to chat with us in this forum :)

That is because half of this forum complains worse then the Bungie forums.

Quotewich gives the question what the F are u doing here?

Unfortunatly this website seems to be the one that updates the most about the latest A/P/AvP/A:CM news. Additionally, i've been here for over 5 years.

Agreed with this guy, to be fair he has a point fan reviews are mostly subjective rather than objective, expectations set far to high. While currently looking at the game, yes it isn't going to be a 9 or 10. It's definitely not perfect but It still might be a half decent game. Personally I would wait for a official reviews since they are not subjective at all, they are paid to give a objective opinion on the game and look at both the positives and negatives.

Who knows, they might find more positives that you think. Just chill guys  :)

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:04 PM

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:24:57 PM

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM

u saw it was the case with Prometheus last year aswell , the EXACT same case...we got bad reviews from fans aswell so we dare to believe its not good, glitches are glitches, dumb enemies are dumb enemies , linear stages are linear stages, short gametime is short gametime...u cant argue with these...and mostly these are my problems here with ACM

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:37:30 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PM

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!

No, give it to ID how it was originally planned back in the 90s.

Yeaaahh, I can dig on that, too.

I am wondering why no one's making an Aliens mod for DooM ]I[? id released its source code long time ago so everybody is able to do whatever he wants with the game, even to rebuild it from scratch. I am sure it can work out pretty well with the right team behind it.

Continuing with my PS3 impressions.

Just because the game doesn't stand up to the huge hype doesn't mean it is bad.
It does entertain as long as you don't expect to be wowed.

I'm on chapter 2 now (I play as slowly as I can to enjoy the atmosphere) and yes, there are gunfights with humans that are as generic as they come and will probably bore most of you.

I would like to point out that on the PS3 so far, I haven't experienced framedrops, glitches or notable aliasing.
I play on the "soldier" difficulty and although the game is not hard, there are some difficulty spikes here and there. For example, some Aliens may give you time to finish them but sometimes they will circle around you and attack fast, killing you with 2-3 blows.

I like the bro-talk in this game. It is consistent with how the movie portrayed the marines.

Can you tell me if the pre order bonuses are just an early unlocks? Just check if you can see the movie characters in the MP customization menu. Or if it says something like "Purchase to unlock". Thanks in advance!

They are nowhere to see in the vanilla character customization.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:54:10 PM
Can you tell me if the pre order bonuses are just an early unlocks? Just check if you can see the movie characters in the MP customization menu. Or if it says something like "Purchase to unlock". Thanks in advance!

I haven't tried the MP menu yet, because it's probably not functional before the official release but i will give it a go.

Not gonna lie, so far I'm pretty dissapointed. And I was really hoping to at least get a somewhat enjoyable experience. Gearbox's games haven't graphically wow'd me or anything so it's not that aspect so much as the AI and gameplay. God, your allies are pretty goddamned retarded at shooting. Oh...and the dialog is a bit...how should I put it? Theatrical? It's not nearly as bad as I pictured but still.... :B Hoping that we'd one day get an Aliens game that has some amount of natural-esque dialog that we've heard in Alien.
Definitely won't be buying the game anytime soon unless something comes along that blows my mind. Some actual PC gameplay would be nice, preferably in 1080p.

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 01:56:02 PM
They are nowhere to see in the vanilla character customization.

What about the SHARP rifle or the Ripley's rifle?

Damn, that's not good news at all. Ah well, with the recent gameplay I expected something sort of mediocre but solid-ish. Guess it's worse than that. Ah, well...it doesn't look like the Alien series will ever get a proper game. Such a long, long, long waste of time.
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.

Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.

What is that?

QuoteWhat is that?

Too lazy to link. It doesn't have a name anyway, but it's being developed by Creative Assembly.

Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:18:42 PM

Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.

What is that?

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 10:28:26 AM
The most PATHETIC thing is we all were mad how SEGA rushed AVP 2010 ahead of A:CM and we felt that AVP 2010 was indeed a rushed product make for an easy cash-in so in turn we expected even more from A:CM, to be finally this serious, very well-conceived game that is finally going to make the series justice...But guess not. We'll have to wait for yet another such instance!!! Which might never happen btw.

Oh and I wouldn't put too much hope in Creative Assembly's next Alien IP coz this is their console dev team having nothing in common with the team from Total War series and other quality PC games...Those console devs from that team made Viking: Battle for Asgard (70/100 metacritic), and Stormrise, that pathetic RTS for consoles (48/100 metacritic, 360 version, PC version got 42/100!) :D

This is yet another Alien IP but probably in works for next-gen consoles, it was meant to be a TPP game and more like Dead Space 1/2...But I wouldn't get my hopes up...

Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:21:19 PM

QuoteWhat is that?

Too lazy to link. It doesn't have a name anyway, but it's being developed by Creative Assembly.

That'll do, pig. That'll do.


SALT THE FRIES - Sometimes teams have bad games. I thought Viking was fun for what it was.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:43:43 PM
I am wondering why no one's making an Aliens mod for DooM ]I[? id released its source code long time ago so everybody is able to do whatever he wants with the game, even to rebuild it from scratch. I am sure it can work out pretty well with the right team behind it.

I Beleieve someone has already made one for doom and doom 2 I just need to find the link again.

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 02:21:46 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:18:42 PM

Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Feb 08, 2013, 02:12:48 PM
Welp, there's always mods and that other Alien game that's in developement.

What is that?

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 10:28:26 AM
The most PATHETIC thing is we all were mad how SEGA rushed AVP 2010 ahead of A:CM and we felt that AVP 2010 was indeed a rushed product make for an easy cash-in so in turn we expected even more from A:CM, to be finally this serious, very well-conceived game that is finally going to make the series justice...But guess not. We'll have to wait for yet another such instance!!! Which might never happen btw.

Oh and I wouldn't put too much hope in Creative Assembly's next Alien IP coz this is their console dev team having nothing in common with the team from Total War series and other quality PC games...Those console devs from that team made Viking: Battle for Asgard (70/100 metacritic), and Stormrise, that pathetic RTS for consoles (48/100 metacritic, 360 version, PC version got 42/100!) :D

This is yet another Alien IP but probably in works for next-gen consoles, it was meant to be a TPP game and more like Dead Space 1/2...But I wouldn't get my hopes up...

*Pours a bottle of scotch*
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Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 01:10:53 PM
All I see is inconsistent bitching from everyone on this forum day in, day out.

You are all whining about something you have yet to play.

Fan-based reviews are biased, everyone that is a fan usually sets their expectations way too goddamn high, and most company-based reviews require a bribe or a bandwagon to give a positive review.


Instead of being mindless sheep with no opinion for yourselves, worthlessly only taking the opinion of people that got an early copy or got paid a salary to write a few paragraph's about something, why don't you actually play the game before judging it? The entire point of video game reviews is pointless unless you share the exact same needs, preferences, and personality as the person writing the review.

Idiots.

And for those of you that have an early copy, I honestly don't give a flying f**k about Graphics, AI, or the like. I'm getting this game mostly for the multiplayer and because i'm a die-hard fan, so I would like to know what happens in the story. That's all.

yes this ^ love it eat it read it

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 02:05:39 PMWhat about the SHARP rifle or the Ripley's rifle?

You can use what they call "Legendary weapons" in MP once you find them in Campaign, such as Hudson's pulse rifle or Vasquez's smartgun, but the ones you mentionned I've yet to see in vanilla.

To folks who played the game: what about using sentries? Are we free to place them whenever we want? Is there any degree of freedom in welding objects? Or it is 100% up to the course of the story?

How does using sentries differ from games like RAGE where you could also use them?

Is there ANYTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE GAME ANYMORE? Apart from having to pull out the motion tracker???

Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:38:33 PM

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 01:37:30 PM

Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PM

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:29:50 PM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 08, 2013, 04:31:39 AM
I mean, it's one thing to have high hopes but it almost seems like people here want a GOTY type game. End of the day I just want a game that is solid. I think ACM will be decent enough for me.

If another AVP or Aliens game comes out though I would hope SEGA gets a top-notch developer. I think 343 or Bungie would do wonders with this kind of series.

My thoughts exactly.

I think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!

No, give it to ID how it was originally planned back in the 90s.

Yeaaahh, I can dig on that, too.

I'd have Insomniac Games do it. In fact I would kill every single one of you here without hesitation for that.

Every one of you.

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 08, 2013, 02:53:47 PM
To folks who played the game: what about using sentries? Are we free to place them whenever we want? Is there any degree of freedom in welding objects? Or it is 100% up to the course of the story?

How does using sentries differ from games like RAGE where you could also use them?

Is there ANYTHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE GAME ANYMORE? Apart from having to pull out the motion tracker???

Yeah you can place sentries wherever you like... the first time you place one is just some kind of tutorial that's why the spot is highlighted. I guess that's good news... somehow.
You only get one at a time though. Maybe that's different in coop. Dunno, I only played 1P.

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 08, 2013, 02:24:12 PM

I Beleieve someone has already made one for doom and doom 2 I just need to find the link again.

Yes I know about the DooM 2 mod, but I am talking about some other stuff  :laugh:

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 02:50:01 PM

You can use what they call "Legendary weapons" in MP once you find them in Campaign, such as Hudson's pulse rifle or Vasquez's smartgun, but the ones you mentionned I've yet to see in vanilla.

Yep but I thought the Ripley's weapon is not part of the legendary weapons for some reason  :laugh:

I guess it's a preorder/DLC weapon, hence why it wouldn't appear in vanilla. The other Legendary weapons are ingame unlockables - Hudson's pulse rifle, Hick's shotgun, Vasquez's smartgun, Gorman's pistol - all of those you can unlock and use in MP once you find them in Campaign.

Leeroy712Plays
Part 7 is going up.

To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

has anybody tried to play online i just keep hearing the same SP bullshit blah blah blah we know that its terrible how about some MP maybe we can get something people wont complain about

Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:48 PM

Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic

lol i like this guy he's a smartass

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 03:05:49 PM
I guess it's a preorder/DLC weapon, hence why it wouldn't appear in vanilla. The other Legendary weapons are ingame unlockables - Hudson's pulse rifle, Hick's shotgun, Vasquez's smartgun, Gorman's pistol - all of those you can unlock and use in MP once you find them in Campaign.

I thought the smartgun can be acquired only by picking it up from the ground. The way you are saying it it seems like you can select Vasquez' smartun as default weapon  :o

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:48 PM

Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_KrGP61uo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_KrGP61uo#)

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 03:33:41 PMI thought the smartgun can be acquired only by picking it up from the ground. The way you are saying it it seems like you can select Vasquez' smartun as default weapon  :o

Actually you're right, it was a mistake - I was listing the Legendary Weapons you find in SP - but since smartguns can't be used as starting weapons in MP, you can't use Vasquez's either, yeah.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 08, 2013, 03:30:48 PM

Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 08, 2013, 03:27:00 PM
To everyone still in denial and saying everyone should make up there mind about the game by playing and ignoring reviews. When 90% of people say the game is not very good it is safe to assume the game is not very good. Some of the gameplay on youtube shows the games mishaps and downfalls very clearly. Yes there is still fun to be had but as a game and being ranked against other games it obviously is not up to par. When a game takes 8 years to make there are going to be problems.

When 90% of america's congressmen vote to censor the internet without having any idea how the internet works, clearly the internet needs to be censored regardless.

>your logic

It's different when everyone here is a fan of the Aliens franchise and has watched this game for years and years to watch it age and grow up into a sub-par game. It's more or less people who love Aliens and were hoping and praying for a good game. Watch LeeRoy's video and watch him go from being hella excited to gradually figuring out it is not an overall "Good" game. As a game it stands with all other games an also stands with Aliens/AvP games. I'm buying the game and I will still have fun with it but that's not to say it's going to be a Great game. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but when you go on a thread entitled "Fan Reviews" and say reviews/opinions mean nothing it makes no sense.

QuoteCompleted it - 5.75/10

It gets slightly better; open spaces, the story gets more interesting and you get some new weapons. But thats about it... so is it worth playing? Well, if you don't have anything else to play, sure Smile
11 missions, took me about 6-7 hours.

that doesnt sound to bad im ok with it idk about some others but im good with that

Even though this game hasn't looked that great for the past year, I am still disappointed at just how lazy and generic it seems to have turned out to be.

All I know is that I'm gonna be playing it on my bad ass PC so it's gonna look a hell of a lot better than the console versions....will probably get more updates as well. I'm also planning on playing it with friends via 4 player coop so the squad AI doesn't matter to me at all. All I can say to you console guys is.....you shoulda got the PC version.

Quote from: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:17:51 PM
All I know is that I'm gonna be playing it on my bad ass PC so it's gonna look a hell of a lot better than the console versions....will probably get more updates as well. I'm also planning on playing it with friends via 4 player coop so the squad AI doesn't matter to me at all. All I can say to you console guys is.....you shoulda got the PC version.

I can see how that makes perfect sense  :laugh:

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So...New Xenos? at least not those we already know off?
Any story twist?...What about Hicks/bag ect?
Engineers?...Alien 3/Prometheus connections?

Guys...somebody? The end of the game/story? How did the egg end up there finally?
(since this is the true sequel of Aliens  :laugh: )

AAA?????

From now on i can only view Randy Pitchford as the gaming equivalent of David Brent (i am big fan btw). Both are charming but not to be taken seriosly.

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Well, it's more a sequel to Alien 3 in terms of it's placement in chronology. Spiritually it's a sequel to Aliens, but... Well, questions like "How the eggs got on the Sulaco" may have been ignored entirely, or be only vaguely dealt with. I don't know yet, I have not yet received my copy, but what I've seen in the playthroughs seems to indicate they probably don't go into detail.

Quote from: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 04:25:25 PM

Quote from: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:17:51 PM
All I know is that I'm gonna be playing it on my bad ass PC so it's gonna look a hell of a lot better than the console versions....will probably get more updates as well. I'm also planning on playing it with friends via 4 player coop so the squad AI doesn't matter to me at all. All I can say to you console guys is.....you shoulda got the PC version.

I can see how that makes perfect sense  :laugh:

Yep, I'm laughing...everyone has a PC these day man and the specs on this game are so low that you really don't need that great of a computer to play it. Even on medium settings, the game will probably look better that a console.

Quote from: DRAKE M. on Feb 08, 2013, 04:37:56 PM

Yep, I'm laughing...everyone has a PC these day man and the specs on this game are so low that you really don't need that great of a computer to play it. Even on medium settings, the game will probably look better that a console.

This

Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
From now on i can only view Randy Pitchford as the gaming equivalent of David Brent (i am big fan btw). Both are charming but not to be taken seriosly.

http://withfriendship.com/images/b/9282/Ricky-Gervais-picture.jpg

lol

Not on my 7 year old Acer Pentium M 768MB RAM notebook  :P

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Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 04:33:28 PM
From now on i can only view Randy Pitchford as the gaming equivalent of David Brent (i am big fan btw). Both are charming but not to be taken seriosly.

http://withfriendship.com/images/b/9282/Ricky-Gervais-picture.jpg

Vote Brent for President  :laugh:

Warning for major spoilers upcoming guys... be advised.

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMSo...New Xenos? at least not those we already know off?

List of Xenos :

Spoiler

Drone
Lurker
Spitter
Explosive (forgot its name)
Massive Rhino type (forgot its name)
Queen

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Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMAny story twist?...What about Hicks/bag ect?

Spoiler

Hicks is the bag guy. He's being held by Wey-Yu for most of the game until you save him, he then joins the squad as an NPC and fights alongside you for the rest of the game.
The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.
Whoop Dee f**king Doo, nicely played Gearbox...

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Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMEngineers?...Alien 3/Prometheus connections?

Only Prometheus connection is this (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=47011.msg1607089#msg1607089).

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMGuys...somebody? The end of the game/story? How did the egg end up there finally?
(since this is the true sequel of Aliens  :laugh: )

Spoiler

Nothing on how the egg got into the Sulaco.
End of the game is basically confronting Mister Weyland, realizing he's not the real thing and just another cyborg, shooting him in the face, then Bishop offers to plug into what's left of it to learn more about Wey-Yu's plans. Game ends on Bishop saying he got everything.

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Quality plot, no doubt about it.

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 05:12:18 PM
Warning for major spoilers upcoming guys... be advised.

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMSo...New Xenos? at least not those we already know off?

List of Xenos :

Spoiler

Drone
Lurker
Spitter
Explosive (forgot its name)
Massive Rhino type (forgot its name)
Queen

[close]

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMAny story twist?...What about Hicks/bag ect?

Spoiler

Hicks is the bag guy. He's being held by Wey-Yu for most of the game until you save him, he then joins the squad as an NPC and fights alongside you for the rest of the game.
The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.
Whoop Dee f**king Doo, nicely played Gearbox...

[close]

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMEngineers?...Alien 3/Prometheus connections?

Only Prometheus connection is this (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=47011.msg1607089#msg1607089).

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 04:29:46 PMGuys...somebody? The end of the game/story? How did the egg end up there finally?
(since this is the true sequel of Aliens  :laugh: )

Spoiler

Nothing on how the egg got into the Sulaco.
End of the game is basically confronting Mister Weyland, realizing he's not the real thing and just another cyborg, shooting him in the face, then Bishop offers to plug into what's left of it to learn more about Wey-Yu's plans. Game ends on Bishop saying he got everything.

[close]

Quality plot, no doubt about it.

Thank you.To be honest,i realize all of us who tried to explain the story trailer posted more original explanations than the one Gearbox chose.
Something about the story...:

Spoiler

If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?

[close]

btw i forgot to ask one more thing...remember that pic with the facehugger with the ''sword'' tail?  Anything about it?

Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Thank you.To be honest,i realize all of us who tried to explain the story trailer posted more original explanations than the one Gearbox chose.
btw i forgot to ask one more thing...remember that pic with the facehugger with the ''sword'' tail?  Anything about it?

Not sure what you're referring to... I have to admit I didn't follow the promotion/hype too much, so I may not have heard about that... and I don't remember seeing any strange looking facehugger during my playthrough. Got a pic ?

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:25:47 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.

On the other hand, shoddy AI/weak sauce aliens, limited multiplayer maps, very linear and fairly short campaign, expensive DLC...

Disappointing SP aside, I could see this game becoming as popular as AvP2 if the MP delivers. It has interesting mechanics, fun gametypes, lots of customization and cool maps. It only needs a decent netcode. I guess time will tell.

AVP2 had a crap net code

ACM MP may deliver on the consoles but I doubt it on the PC. Its p2p based on the PC too so it will be pain in the ass to find fellow players.

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 08, 2013, 05:27:26 PM

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:24:29 PM
Thank you.To be honest,i realize all of us who tried to explain the story trailer posted more original explanations than the one Gearbox chose.
btw i forgot to ask one more thing...remember that pic with the facehugger with the ''sword'' tail?  Anything about it?

Not sure what you're referring to... I have to admit I didn't follow the promotion/hype too much, so I may not have heard about that... and I don't remember seeing any strange looking facehugger during my playthrough. Got a pic ?

I'm very sorry,i just cant remember who uploaded the pic.It was a hugger flying towards our face but it was like he was gonna use his tail for the kill and the end of the tail was like the tip of a sword.I'm sure someone will remember that pic too.
Probably a pic from a trailer.

Something about the story...:

Spoiler

If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?

[close]

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Something about the story...:

Spoiler

If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?

[close]

Doesn't fit the timeline of events.

Spoiler

WY jacked the ship after Alien 3 happened.

[close]

QuoteI'm very sorry,i just cant remember who uploaded the pic.It was a hugger flying towards our face but it was like he was gonna use his tail for the kill and the end of the tail was like the tip of a sword.I'm sure someone will remember that pic too.
Probably a pic from a trailer.

Reading too much into it. That's just them conserving polygons in conjunction with asthetics in spots that you usually won't notice while playing..

I think that a collaboration between ''Ubisoft'' and ''Monolith'' or ''4A Games'' would serve the franchise justice.
So you don't have to look the m up, A4 Games are responsible for Metro 2033. The only downer was the retarded human AI in SP, everything else was simply gorgeous.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:25:47 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.

On the other hand, shoddy AI/weak sauce aliens, limited multiplayer maps, very linear and fairly short campaign, expensive DLC...

Aliens are suppose to be weak, thats why they attack in numbers. So put the game on Ultimate Badass mode. This isn't at you but I hate it when people say "weak AI" when there playing on normal. The DLC was ridiculously priced and that's why I'm getting the season pass and I think if people blowup SEGA, and Gearboxes twitter, Facebook and mailbox then they will add more and maybe do some improvements. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! :P

I would love to see Guerilla Games take a shot at the Alien franchise.
Killzone 2 and 3 look amazing and they've stated that they are huge Aliens fans too..

It's starting to sound like a bad case of bait and switch. :(

They look amazing FOR A CONSOLE titles and their gameplay is a CoD ripoff. ACM will end up just like now.

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:50:07 PM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:25:47 PM
Has anyone ever heard of a game called Deadly Premonition? Looks horrible got 1 & 2 ratings from major game review companies. It ended up being a cult classic and now there releasing a directors cut. The point is, it doesn't have to look amazing or get good reviews from everybody. It depends on your mindset and how you go into the game. I think the multiplayer looks sick and I'm going to be tearing it up. I like how they force you to use teamwork to win unlike other multiplayers. So if you RAGE quit, that means your not using the fundamentals of battle.

On the other hand, shoddy AI/weak sauce aliens, limited multiplayer maps, very linear and fairly short campaign, expensive DLC...

Aliens are suppose to be weak, thats why they attack in numbers. So put the game on Ultimate Badass mode. This isn't at you but I hate it when people say "weak AI" when there playing on normal. The DLC was ridiculously priced and that's why I'm getting the season pass and I think if people blowup SEGA, and Gearboxes twitter, Facebook and mailbox then they will add more and maybe do some improvements. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! :P

So you thing the DLC is ridiculously priced and you are buying the season pass, which is what they wanted all along.
Nice logic there.

Weak AI means weak AI. It's not just about the difficulty, it's about how the npc's move and react to the player.
For example the Aliens could be moving smart reacting to your actions accordingly while still not being able to do a lot of damage. The difference is that you would have more challenge to actually hunt them down and put them in your sights, making the game more "real like" in a sense.

Wow...

From reading the reviews, it sounds like the storyline in A:CM completely lacks innovation.  I agree that this game will make Alien3 a better film (as Pitchford claimed) but only in the sense that it shows us how much worse people can handle the franchise material they're given.

I will not count A:CM as canon but...

Spoiler

Is there any explanation as to why Hicks is retrieved from the Sulaco while Ripley is left to her to own fate on Fury 161?  Surely, she would be more valuable to WY than Hicks...as a matter of fact, that point was an entire sub plot in Alien3.  WY wanted her back and had a huge intent to retrieve her alive after her EEV was jettisoned.

And whose body is in Hick's cryotube on Fury 161 then?  Clearly, there was an opportunity to provide an awesomely gruesome, Fincher-esque subplot to explain that...I mean, the jig would've been up if his face was recognizable as opposed to being smashed in the crash.  But how would WY have known he'd be unrecognizable after the fact?  If they wanted a cover-up, it would be in their best interest to disfigure someone first and then make the switch...its an interesting thing to think about and a great opportunity to make something else out of the story...but I don't think GBX knows much about subplots from what I'm reading here. LOL

Still, do we get any answers for these questions?

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Will that game be worse than Aliens: Infestation on Nintendo DS? I found that game to be fun even if somewhat formulaic later on, a solid 7.5/8 out of 10...

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
They look amazing FOR A CONSOLE titles and their gameplay is a CoD ripoff. ACM will end up just like now.

It's not just the graphics. The enemies have decent AI and the combat is meaty. The player you control has weight in his movement and shooting the Helgans actually feels like your bullets punch into something. It's a bit hard to explain if you haven't played those games.

Am I to take it that this game has no connection to Aliens Infestation? It seems that it may have been a better game. How Is Alien 3 a better movie now?

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
Aliens are suppose to be weak, thats why they attack in numbers. So put the game on Ultimate Badass mode. This isn't at you but I hate it when people say "weak AI" when there playing on normal. The DLC was ridiculously priced and that's why I'm getting the season pass and I think if people blowup SEGA, and Gearboxes twitter, Facebook and mailbox then they will add more and maybe do some improvements. POWER TO THE PEOPLE! :P

No. Aliens are supposed to be deadly. Yeah, you shoot them, they die. Beyond that, they are supposed to be cunning foes. Otherwise what is the point? They should be far more dynamic and dangerous. Not to mention aggressive. I've seen both the human AI and the Alien AI walk past eachother, go around corners, stop and wait right in your line of fire. That is unacceptable in 2013. Absolutely unacceptable.

Quote from: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:03:20 PM
Am I to take it that this game has no connection to Aliens Infestation? It seems that it may have been a better game. How Is Alien 3 a better movie now?

Initially Infestation was entitled "Aliens : Colonial Marines" and intended to be a portable version of it, but when A:CM was delayed, things changed.

Did Leeroy712Plays get a cease and desist order?

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:45:12 PM

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Something about the story...:

Spoiler

If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?

[close]

Doesn't fit the timeline of events.

Spoiler

WY jacked the ship after Alien 3 happened.

[close]

WeaN wrote that:

Spoiler

The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.

[close]

So how did it happen After alien 3?

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 06:15:31 PM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 05:45:12 PM

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 05:41:35 PM
Something about the story...:

Spoiler

If WY boarded the ship,maybe they put the eggs?

[close]

Doesn't fit the timeline of events.

Spoiler

WY jacked the ship after Alien 3 happened.

[close]

WeaN wrote that:

Spoiler

The explaination on how he's alive : He says Wey-Yu hijacked the Sulaco when it was around Fury and replaced him by somebody else - so the body from Aliens3 isn't actually Hicks, according to the game.

[close]

So how did it happen After alien 3?

That really doesn't add up with the events of Alien 3 at all. So they got on board the ship, replaced Hicks, let/or lost Ripley to Fury 161, were still in the area obviously, but didn't bother to retrieve her until several days later.

Yeah. Okay. Sure. Really makes a lot of sense.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 08, 2013, 05:54:21 PM
They look amazing FOR A CONSOLE titles and their gameplay is a CoD ripoff. ACM will end up just like now.

Dude, the graphics of Killzone 3 are phenomenal and not just for consoles. Guerrilla Games, were using for the physics a modified Havok engine which is one of the best on the market. I can't speak of gameplay though, don't own a PS but the visuals are stunning even within the console's restrictions.
Resistance and Killzone are the only two games that have tempted me to buy a PS.

QuoteSo you thing the DLC is ridiculously priced and you are buying the season pass, which is what they wanted all along.
Nice logic

I should have explained myself better. It's always smarter to get a season pass or wait for the DVD release of DLCs. Buying DLCs individually are usually not the way to go. Who cares if "they" are hustling us, they aren't the only ones slanging DLCs or other products.

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I think we can all agree about the story OpenMaw that:

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Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:30:58 PM

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.

True, we mustn't reward failure, generally speaking.

Eeeeesh.  This sounds horrendous!!!  I watched part of that 2 hour video on IGN the other day and was amazed at how horrible the graphics, animation, and textures are.  DOOM3 BFG runs at 60fps and looks a lot better than this.

I'd probably still buy it if it had Horde mode, but no way I am I paying $75 for a 6 hour, linear, scripted game with a "possibly" good horde mode.

Heck, now that I know Bug Hunt is not in the game, I'd be hesitant to pick it up at $30 cause I'd still have to pay $15 for the mode I care about.

Major dissapointment.

Is there a Horde mode in AVP2010?  If so how many maps does it have?

I'll have to see if my buddy's indie store will cancel this for me.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:30:58 PM

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.

And what's your plan to stop the MAN from working us? Trust me I don't like being used or manipulated just like the other guy, but its about making money. Soooo... Dew the Dew! I just made $10 on that comment.  :laugh:

On another note are you going to buy the DLC or season pass?  :P

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:48:00 PM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 06:30:58 PM

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
Who cares if "they" are hustling us,

This right here is exactly what is wrong with the mentality of the mass consumer market.

We should care, and just because others are doing it doesn't make it right. And the fact that people roll over everytime this kind of thing happens. every. single. time. Just shows them they can get away with it.

And what's your plan to stop the MAN from working us? Trust me I don't like being used or manipulated just like the other guy, but its about making money. Soooo... Dew the Dew! I just made $10 on that comment.  :laugh:

On another note are you going to buy the DLC or season pass?  :P

If we all actually, ya know, got together a community and actually made the tough choice of NOT BUYING their stuff until they dropped their prices, things would likely change. That's how you fight that kind of crap, and it does work. It has worked in the past many times. Developers, and particularly publishers, get really scared when a community organizes and gives their high price tags the finger.

Neither. Not until I know absolutely what the game is like for myself 100%, and what the DLC is offering, 100%.

Before we all collectively agree that this game is a failure...

...be mindful that the game spent years in development hell (over a decade if you go as far back as the planned PS2 version).  It's also based on a Sci-Fi film that came out in the 27 years ago, well before the majority of current gamers were even born.  Public interest and advocacy for getting this game developed, hyped, and released was probably never going to be easy thing for any developer.  Perhaps we should consider ourselves fortunate that we even got a playable game out of this at all...

Quote from: DemonicD13 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
Did Leeroy712Plays get a cease and desist order?

No, he made those vids private and if you put your email on his first vid he will let you see them. I have no idea why he is doing this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y74MZsTCCtw# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y74MZsTCCtw#)

Quote from: Ash 937 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
Before we all collectively agree that this game is a failure...

Success or failure aside, the prices are terrible.

How are the prices any worse than other major game releases?

For now, I don't think it will be too long before prices plummet. Very glad I didn't pre-order this, but I think I will still check it out as MP looks OK.

It's disappointing escape mode only has two maps without DLC because multiplayer is what will keep me playing A:CM.

As for Brian Burleson saying there would be a ton of maps, two feels more like the bare minimum. Although this is the same person who said there were no playable females in A:CM.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 08, 2013, 07:03:41 PM

Quote from: Ash 937 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:56:14 PM
Before we all collectively agree that this game is a failure...

Success or failure aside, the prices are terrible.

Your stuck on the prices, Black Ops 2 Revolution DLC was the same price (it came with 4 maps, a new Zombie mode and a new weapon). As long as the Bug Hunt DLC delivers I really don't see a price difference from what other games have already done. I guess we will all just have to wait and see.

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 08, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
It's disappointing escape mode only has two maps without DLC because multiplayer is what will keep me playing A:CM.

As for Brian Burleson saying there would be a ton of maps, two feels more like the bare minimum. Although this is the same person who said there were no playable females in A:CM.

Same here.

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 07:34:22 PM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 08, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
It's disappointing escape mode only has two maps without DLC because multiplayer is what will keep me playing A:CM.

As for Brian Burleson saying there would be a ton of maps, two feels more like the bare minimum. Although this is the same person who said there were no playable females in A:CM.

Same here.

I think Hadley's Hope sewers might end up being the more popular of the two maps for escape mode. They showed it on the IGN live feed last weekend.

Quote from: teras on Feb 08, 2013, 06:00:58 PM
It's a bit hard to explain if you haven't played those games.

I have played the third one.

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 08, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
were using for the physics a modified Havok engine which is one of the best on the market.

Yeah but sadly Havok is very dated engine by now. It was my fav physics engine long time ago but its already too old for the current standards. Also there are better looking games on the PS than the KZ series. Uncharted 3 looks way better for example. KZ is just covered with blur, the textures are pretty low res actually.

Leeroy knocked off 71 Xenos in Hadleys Hopes first level, I'd be suprised if that many were left on the entire plane,t let alone on the first level of entering Hadley.

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 08, 2013, 07:23:00 PM
Your stuck on the prices, Black Ops 2 Revolution DLC was the same price (it came with 4 maps, a new Zombie mode and a new weapon). As long as the Bug Hunt DLC delivers I really don't see a price difference from what other games have already done. I guess we will all just have to wait and see.

Those are terrible prices too.

There's nothing to "wait and see" when you pay a third of the game price for what is essentially 1/10 the content, you are being jipped. Expansion packs back in the day would run you about 20 bucks total, but you'd get new weapons, a full new campaign, new gameplay for multiplayer, all in one go. Things have changed, and they've changed badly. Just compare what you got in AVP 2 Primal Hunt, to this kind of bullshit they do with modern DLC.

Spoiler

So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldn't be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.

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Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM

Spoiler

So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldnt be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.

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Nothing about this game makes sense anymore but you need to obey to the cannonz so kindly obey and don't question. I bet you
want the game to fail. I give the game 10 out of then. 

A lot of these reviews arent the best...Oh well.
Everyone said AVP2010 was crap and I've been enjoying the game every couple of months since its release. i still have very high hopes for this game

Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM

Spoiler

So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldn't be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.

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LOL The story is for an Oscar...if WY boarded the ship why not simply take as prisoners Hicks,Ripley,Newt and Bishop?
Then impregnate them all and take the cherstbuster and whatever.Why risk letting them fall on Fury?

They fell victim of their own logic.They wanted to be canon so they were ''tied'' by the start of Alien 3.
But when Alien 3 was written none had in mind that WY boarded the Sulaco ect.So it is natural the story to be bullshit.

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They chose to bring back Hicks,well nice welcome but...  >:(

Quote from: SPECIAL FORCES on Feb 08, 2013, 09:41:58 PM

Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM

Spoiler

So Hicks is indeed alive then. Why would WY take Hicks from the crytube and leave a double in his place? Why leave Ripley behind and take Hicks? I know Burke was acting alone in Aliens and not with WY but he refers to Hicks as a grunt and a nobody if I remember right but he employers apparently see him as a valuable kidnap target, more valualble than Ripley. It just doesn't make sense. So did WY plant the egg in the Sulaco and were they responsible for starting that fire? If so did they actually kill the Hicks double so he couldn't be identified or did they not care if Ripley realise that Hicks was mysteriously replaced much like Homer bieng replaced with a German in the Simpsons. Not of this makes any sense.

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Spoiler

LOL The story is for an Oscar...if WY boarded the ship why not simply take as prisoners Hicks,Ripley,Newt and Bishop?
Then impregnate them all and take the cherstbuster and whatever.Why risk letting them fall on Fury?

They fell victim of their own logic.They wanted to be canon so they were ''tied'' by the start of Alien 3.
But when Alien 3 was written none had in mind that WY boarded the Sulaco ect.So it is natural the story to be bullshit.

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They chose to bring back Hicks,well nice welcome but...  >:(

It's just a shame that the story is so crap. Judging by these reviews the gameplay itself is so generic shooter with dodgy AI. The game has to rely on its Aliens atmosphere and story and it turns out the story is crap.

Well. I guess I may be the only still going to get the game to see it for myself.

Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 08, 2013, 09:31:49 PM
I bet you
want the game to fail. I give the game 10 out of then.

Huh?  ???

Quote from: Marvelnerd1 on Feb 08, 2013, 11:22:48 PM
Well. I guess I may be the only still going to get the game to see it for myself.

Nope. I will be as well but I am expecting trash at this point. Just gonna rent the game unless the multiplayer is any good.

Is Morse even mentioned?

Spoiler

QuoteLOL The story is for an Oscar...if WY boarded the ship why not simply take as prisoners Hicks,Ripley,Newt and Bishop?
Then impregnate them all and take the cherstbuster and whatever.Why risk letting them fall on Fury?

They fell victim of their own logic.They wanted to be canon so they were ''tied'' by the start of Alien 3.
But when Alien 3 was written none had in mind that WY boarded the Sulaco ect.So it is natural the story to be bullshit.

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Christ, that's awful. And completely non-sensical and f**ktarded. I'm curious to see what  Bradley Thompson and David Weddle's original treatment for the game was.

seems like i should continue to play with Aliens Infestation to have at least a little bit of joy regarding the Alien universe...

I played chapter one on hard then decided to go up to the ultimate badass difficulty for chapter two. Playing on Badass with no hub adds some spice. Its ok that you can find the secret stuff with your motion tracker, but that takes away from the searching. The AI is under par, you do catch them standing around at times. And the achievements are pretty simple i unlocked 12 in just 2 chapters. But I'm having a blast with the game.

I know this has been said before but WHO THE HELL NEEDS A SUPPRESSOR IN A RUN AND GUN GAME!

SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 09, 2013, 12:06:43 AM
I played chapter one on hard then decided to go up to the ultimate badass difficulty for chapter two. Playing on Badass with no hub adds some spice. Its ok that you can find the secret stuff with your motion tracker, but that takes away from the searching. The AI is under par, you do catch them standing around at times. And the achievements are pretty simple i unlocked 12 in just 2 chapters. But I'm having a blast with the game.

I know this has been said before but WHO THE HELL NEEDS A SUPPRESSOR IN A RUN AND GUN GAME!

How did you get your copy and where?

Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.

Lol, f**k off Gearbox. Honestly, what more can they do for the campaign, are they going to add missing levels? Or, hopefully, they actually add missions that take place AFTER the campaign.

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 12:12:44 AM

Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.

Lol, f**k off Gearbox. Honestly, what more can they do for the campaign, are they going to add missing levels? Or, hopefully, they actually add missions that take place AFTER the campaign.

I'm hoping that Morse shows up, kills the revealed-to-be-a-synthetic-double-of Hicks, and helps you go kick some ass. Or something similar.

fix  the ai and the bugs gbx for f**k sake at least

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 12:12:44 AM

Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

So there's a chance at a better story ending.

Hopefully.

Lol, f**k off Gearbox. Honestly, what more can they do for the campaign, are they going to add missing levels? Or, hopefully, they actually add missions that take place AFTER the campaign.

It's like they intentionally want to f**k with their biggest fanbase. What's the betting it adds a mission after the deliberately ambiguous ending. It's ok folks, pay just £14.99 to access the real end of the game you paid £30 for, oh and another payment for the real skirmish MP you wanted at release too.

We did this all for you, you know. You should feel honoured! All hail Gearbox, the true authentic fans.

Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:10:39 AM

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 11:55:51 PM

Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 08, 2013, 11:47:32 PM
The season pass description seems to indicate that there will be more campaign missions, so there might be more story that salvages this... hopefully >__>

Which is f**king bullshit.

SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

why not just add the hive-escape-fight scene as a "mission" from Aliens with the actual squad where u can be any of the soldiers and where u can save as many mates as u can and u can escort them back to the apc ...ofcourse with only a flamethrower as Apone or Dietrich, or with a smartgun with low ammo as Vasquez or with a shotgun as Hicks for example, no pulse rifle this time, u would have pistol ofcourse....the more people u can save in the shortest time and the more xenos u can kill the better rank u get xD

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:27:19 AM

Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 09, 2013, 12:10:39 AM

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 08, 2013, 11:55:51 PM

Quote from: HybridNewborn on Feb 08, 2013, 11:47:32 PM
The season pass description seems to indicate that there will be more campaign missions, so there might be more story that salvages this... hopefully >__>

Which is f**king bullshit.

SEGA just confirmed (http://blogs.sega.com/2013/02/08/aliens-colonial-marines-dlc-and-season-pass-bundle/) like 20 minutes ago that there will be more campaign missions in the DLC packs.

why not just add the hive-escape-fight scene as a "mission" from Aliens with the actual squad where u can be any of the soldiers and where u can save as many mates as u can and u can escort them back to the apc ...ofcourse with only a flamethrower as Apone or Dietrich, or with a smartgun with low ammo as Vasquez or with a shotgun as Hicks for example, no pulse rifle this time, u would have pistol ofcourse....the more people u can save in the shortest time and the more xenos u can kill the better rank u get xD

Now that would be a good DLC. A mode where you all pick a character and try and escape the Hive, it's dark, moody, smokey, Aliens are buffed for one hit kills and no Alien Wrestling Championship. Get back to the APC as fast as possible, with as many squad mates alive as possible.

Im gonna go out on a limb and say this whole thing stinks of meddling by SEGA.

AVP2010 was a rushed buggy imbalanced game
A:CM appears to be a rushed buggy game

AVP2010 only offered a handful of multiplayer modes
A:CM only offers a small number of multiplayer modes

AVP2010 had a handful of regular multiplayer maps and a 2 each for 2 other specialized game modes
A:CM  has a handful of regular multiplayer maps and a 2 each for 2 other specialized game modes

AVP2010 Had expensive DLC in the form of 4 maps
A:CM appears to be following a similar pattern with adding a game mode only to the game for its first DLC

My point is, you cant tell me to separate game developers like Gearbox and Rebellion are doing the exact same thing, when theres a mutual production company involved with both. Coincidence? I think not..

Quote from: Njm1983 on Feb 09, 2013, 12:40:08 AM
AVP2010 was a rushed buggy imbalanced game
A:CM appears to be a rushed buggy game

Again, there's a massive flaw in the logic here. A:CM was delayed repeatedly. It's not a rushed game. It had a very lengthy and protracted development cycle.

ummm AVP2010 was a finished, decent game besides a few bugs that i just SAW in walktroughs it doesnt had problems...my only problem was that it was short and it was focused more on the preds wich just killed the terror for me

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 09, 2013, 12:54:31 AM
ummm AVP2010 was a finished, decent game besides a few bugs that i just SAW in walktroughs it doesnt had problems...my only problem was that it was short and it was focused more on the preds wich just killed the terror for me

And it had a crap story and Tequilla was beyond annoying and could not act worth a damn.

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Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 12:53:02 AM

Quote from: Njm1983 on Feb 09, 2013, 12:40:08 AM
AVP2010 was a rushed buggy imbalanced game
A:CM appears to be a rushed buggy game

Again, there's a massive flaw in the logic here. A:CM was delayed repeatedly. It's not a rushed game. It had a very lengthy and protracted development cycle.

Yeah I think this game was in development longer than Halo 3 and 4 combined. (Figure of speech, I dont really mean that)

yeah beyond that :D and beyond that every marine had the same skin almost and u can get to see it every time

Actually I think the flaw in your logic is that A:CM was actually "in" production the entire time. Which I highly doubt. Its PR, of course they will pour honeyed potion in your ears, and get you chanting "GEARBOX, GEARBOX". There is no fricken way this game had been worked on for this long and turns out this bad, unless it a DNF scenario. Start, Stop, Start, Stop etc Then they get a green light and rush it into the limelight and release it when it really needed to be overhauled.

Ive played game mods that have been in production since 2003 and with each patch or new version they go back through and update the older content to keep the game looking current.

AVP 2010 was buggy and and imbalanced as shit on release, it got patched and became better. PC got the best patching. I did enjoy it for about 6 months, but I dont bother now because its a broken game.

AVP was bad, like really bad but at least they got the "minimum" required for a game to work.
Aliens animations were very nice, graphics were good, controls were almost good only concerns were some part of the mechanic that were clearly broken and several things as the inability to change species in game.

A:CM doesn't seems to have that minimum.
Graphic sucks, we agree on that.
Animation sucks, we agree on that.
Mechanic is totally random and full of non sense like placing a ***** sentry gun in the middle of nowhere just for the sake of having a sentry gun in the game.
AI sucks, it could have work very very well if all Aliens were behaving like lurker and wouldn't stand 90% of the time on the ground.
Coding sucks, full of bug/lag/glitch that could have easily been fixed if given the proper amount of time to run correct test.
Story is unwise, why trying to change something that is already set up? Gearbox did not succeed where ALIEN³ or AVP failed, it mimic the exact same non linear mistakes that have been bothering the fans since ages. It is a total failure and far from giving an alien experience since their vision matches more the Strause soap.

Can someone locate and paste here that Mikey Neumann photo with "badass" subtitle written on it?? :D

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We should make a meme out of it!!!

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:19:34 AM
Can someone locate and paste here that Mikey Neumann photo with "badass" subtitle written on it?? :D

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We should make a meme out of it!!!

Blame the video editor.

Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F666kb.com%2Fi%2Fc65lyaa4jjuan2ysw.png&hash=fdb7e43b20691cb13afb645dab47fc9c1fb4073a)

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.

Haggle me for extra DLC money and make wild declarations of authenticity. No respect earned.  ;)

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

u did buy some rotten food yesterday but i should show some respect to the seller really?

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:26:22 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.

Completely agree on this.

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:29:19 AM
Have fun bashing a game you haven't even played yet.

Peace.

If that's what it seems like to you, then ok dude, see ya. I'm not really trying to bash a game, I'm only bashing what I have seen with my own two eyes. If I enjoy playing the game when I get my hands on it, then that's fine, I'll be glad. Despite this, the game has shown that it's not doing as good as it should have been. I don't know why you feel like there's some need to defend anyone or anything about this game.


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Seems Predaker deleted his post.

For those of you that have played the game or watched up to a certain part may I ask.....

Spoiler

Why do the marines go to the derlict and how long is the level with the derlict and how much of it can you explore?

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Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game. I won't stop you. Besides I'm sure they'll patch it.

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:31:10 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:29:19 AM
Have fun bashing a game you haven't even played yet.

Peace.

If that's what it seems like to you, then ok dude, see ya. I'm not really trying to bash a game, I'm only bashing what I have seen with my own two eyes. If I enjoy playing the game when I get my hands on it, then that's fine, I'll be glad. Despite this, the game has shown that it's not doing as good as it should have been. I don't know why you feel like there's some need to defend anyone or anything about this game.


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Seems Predaker deleted his post.

Seems he just started playin' with the game  ::) :P

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:28:29 AM
Completely agree on this.

You know... It's not even that I want to bash on Gearbox or Aliens : CM. I expect better from the company that gave us Half-Life Blue Shift and Opposing Force. I expect more from Randy, who is, to a degree, part of the old guard of game developers. I expect more

When someone asks "What? Were you actually expecting GOTY material?" As if that's too high a standard... I have to ask, Why? It wasn't for Monolith a decade ago. Or Rebellion nearly 13 years ago.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliensonline.hu%2Fspgm%2Fgal%2FPC_Jatekok%2FPC_AVP2%2Favp2-gold2.jpg&hash=16f752c572b0f2639f0eb529e93d930f2dd029f9)

Why should it be too high for Gearbox? This is the Alien franchise. It deserves a genuinely triple A experience. Not something that is a mere novelty or a fashionable skin over done-to-death shooter experiences that can be had in a dozen different games.


And, Predaker, I saw your post before it disappeared. Look, we've seen most of the game in walk through form now. We've seen it from several people. I've been reading and watching everything on the game. There isn't much left that I can get from the hands on experience that my eyes, and ears aren't already able to figure out.

In the words of Corporal Dwayne Hicks himself "We've got problems."

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM
I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game. I won't stop you. Besides I'm sure they'll patch it.

Not much experience with this brand in terms of the legal ferocity eh?(aside from this remark being a total straw man. I don't have to be a musician to judge music, why should I have to be a game developer to judge a game?) Fox has a habit of shutting people down who try. I'm shocked I haven't received a C&D for "Into the Vents" yet.

Alien Quake, foxed, computers stolen out of the creators home, a few months later AVP 99 was announced.

Several alien mods for Quake 2, GoldSRC (An online game called USCM : Infestation, dealing with similar gameplay to Infestation/Evac marines against aliens.), Quake 3, and Source were all foxed.

Believe me, there are many people who would LOVE to do it ourselves.

Also, they don't earn my respect until i'm a satisfied customer. They aren't our friend. They are a company offering a product. We're the people buying said product.

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.

This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.

This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I just had to quote this one for truth!

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.

This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I also hate this "argument", you don't have to be a programmer to criticise poor scripting, coding, etc., because such flaws are otherwise tangible. It's not a duel ffs!

I can't help but assume most of these negative reviews are from game snobs who are way pickier than I am.
I personally loved shit out of the latest AVP game, especially the marine levels.  My only complaint about AVP was that it was a bit short.  So I still anticipate enjoying this game for myself.
I'm always up for playing as a colonial marine in a "shake-n-bake colony" killing rigid-headed aliens, and with this game, I'll finally get to do it without predator taint all over it.  This is all I'm personally asking for.  I don't see what more you guys are expecting.

Decent AI, a challenge, a non-retarded story, compelling characters, non entirely linear gameplay...


You're right, it's too much to expect.

I got the game and I'm liking it. You gotta play on hard or Badass, I like Badass it keeps it interesting.

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.

This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I'm just saying you deal with what your given and if you don't like than change it yourself. You don't have to be an artist to criticize artwork I agree with that.

@OpenMaw I understand theres legal trouble people can get into I just meant if you have those skills and you could do it yourself. Would you? This is a franchise thats dear to thousands of people. If you do something different in your own vision these potential backlash while if you keep doing the same thing it will get boring. I'm leaving this thread. I need time to cool off all this negativity towards myself and a game I am yet to play.

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

Most certainly this.

Quote from: necrotard on Feb 09, 2013, 02:02:21 AM
I can't help but assume most of these negative reviews are from game snobs who are way pickier than I am.
I don't see what more you guys are expecting.

I can't speak for anyone else, and I can only talk about what I have seen, but I was expecting to see a game that had A.I. that would have been intelligent. I would have wanted to see their "authenticity" talks to actually hold some weight when they so far have been lying about it completely, there's no excuse there when they continue to say that they have all the details right, and everything is as it should be when it clearly isn't. That's my biggest gripe with them, that they said they were going to do something and then not do it. Other things I was expecting for the Acid of the Aliens to actually harm the player, seeing the game...it really doesn't do anything but prevent the player from auto-regenerating their health bar for a short time. The facial animations of the characters do not exist, they are pretty much robotic in nature. There's just so much more that I was expecting that this game shows they didn't do.

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 02:11:57 AM

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.

This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I'm just saying you deal with what your given and if you don't like than change it yourself.

I don't see how this is any different than what you said earlier though.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

Most certainly this.

Screw that they made a shit game and they need to hear it.  If we spend are money on it then we have the right to rip it apart if it's shit which it is.  There the ones who promised a great ands authentic game which they didn't deliver.

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 02:11:57 AM

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 09, 2013, 01:42:08 AM

Quote from: Terx2 on Feb 09, 2013, 01:32:02 AM

I couldn't agree more. If you think you can do better than go ahead and make you own game.

This is such a lame argument that a lot of people keep dishing out. As if anyone on here can't criticize something because they can't do it themselves, such crap. By this logic about "do it yourself then" it should apply to everything. That means that people who can't draw, can't criticize people that can, people that don't like a movie can't criticize it if they can't make one, etc.

Complete BS.

I'm just saying you deal with what your given and if you don't like than change it yourself. You don't have to be an artist to criticize artwork I agree with that.

How do you expect us to change it by ourself if we're able without a SDK?
Years we've been asking for it on both AVP and A:CM.
Still nothing on the surface and I doubt we'll ever get one for at least one of this games.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

Most certainly this.

Strause brother poured their heart by making AVP-Requiem.
So did Paul Anderson when he did AVP.
So does the FOX CEO with the amount of money he makes every second.

They're trying to sell you a product.
Will you create something and then tell to people to not buy it because you were completely uninterested into its conception during the creation process?
It's called Communication and each studio as a department that gives a brief to people so they can follow it.
SEGA holds everything, if they tell Gearbox to do/say something like "promise their a sequel to ALIENS", they'll execute and have no choice.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:41:58 AM
Not much experience with this brand in terms of the legal ferocity eh?(aside from this remark being a total straw man. I don't have to be a musician to judge music, why should I have to be a game developer to judge a game?) Fox has a habit of shutting people down who try. I'm shocked I haven't received a C&D for "Into the Vents" yet.

Alien Quake, foxed, computers stolen out of the creators home, a few months later AVP 99 was announced.

Several alien mods for Quake 2, GoldSRC (An online game called USCM : Infestation, dealing with similar gameplay to Infestation/Evac marines against aliens.), Quake 3, and Source were all foxed.

Believe me, there are many people who would LOVE to do it ourselves.

Also, they don't earn my respect until i'm a satisfied customer. They aren't our friend. They are a company offering a product. We're the people buying said product.

You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:53 AM

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

Most certainly this.

Strause brother poured their heart by making AVP-Requiem.
So did Paul Anderson when he did AVP.

And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more then a crossover.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:41:58 AM
Not much experience with this brand in terms of the legal ferocity eh?(aside from this remark being a total straw man. I don't have to be a musician to judge music, why should I have to be a game developer to judge a game?) Fox has a habit of shutting people down who try. I'm shocked I haven't received a C&D for "Into the Vents" yet.

Alien Quake, foxed, computers stolen out of the creators home, a few months later AVP 99 was announced.

Several alien mods for Quake 2, GoldSRC (An online game called USCM : Infestation, dealing with similar gameplay to Infestation/Evac marines against aliens.), Quake 3, and Source were all foxed.

Believe me, there are many people who would LOVE to do it ourselves.

Also, they don't earn my respect until i'm a satisfied customer. They aren't our friend. They are a company offering a product. We're the people buying said product.

You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:53 AM

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:10 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

Most certainly this.

Strause brother poured their heart by making AVP-Requiem.
So did Paul Anderson when he did AVP.

And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more then a crossover.

1) They can't nail the MS because it would be useless, anyone else could replace it, countries have different laws concerning copyrighted material and the AVP2 source code was released in Public for a few hours on some old Website making the usage of it legal (even if it was then removed by FOX request). According to the EULA, anyone could create its own MS and would be perfectly legal to do so.

2) And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more than a casual FPS that mimic all the story mistake fans have been complaining as discontinuity since ALIEN³ and a pathetic gameplay disfavored to an atmosphere that is supposed to be reproduced to the identical (while it's not according to some hardcore fans on this forum).

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

ALIENS : Online was an officially licensed Fox game. Unless you're talking about the mod/conversion for AvP2, that's a different thing entirely.

The one that I really forgot was Aliens A Comic Book Adventure, which to this day still confuses me as to the legal nature of that beast. Somebody didnt have the rights to something and Fox said "Hell no" and the developers said "Oh **** yes." and then shenanigans... bizzaro land.


Point is, Fox has generally shut down any attempts by fans to create TCS or mods, or even full on games of a high quality that weren't licensed.

The original Aliens Doom TC was the biggest exception. Though it did wake Fox up to the potential of the franchise as a whole. (AVP Jaguar came out the next year, Alien Trilogy a couple years later, AVP 99 followed just five years later.)

No Software Development Kit? Great! Sorry I take back what I said. I'd thought they'd at least have it for PC. Make acid for blood damge and map out you own terrain and enemy spawn points. Hope they at the very least patch it so we have acid for blood damage.

Seeing i managed to get this early via work, i figured i'd just give everybody my perspective on the game, considering a lot of negativity has come out so far. This is just for Single Player though, as i can't play MP, although i have looked about in the loadouts and challenges etc. This is only from the first mission so far.

Graphics:

Well, right off the bat the graphics aren't terrible, certainly not last gen quality as people have been saying. There are quite a few dodgy looking textures here and there, some of which can be very prominent when your running around searching for collectibles as i tend to, but overall they aren't dreadful, the majority in gameplay look pretty good. I;ve certainly seen a lot worse in current gen games.

A.I.

Again a lot of people saying the Aliens A.I. is terrible, IMO it seems ok to me, nothing groundbreaking but i wouldn't call it bad. Very much standard FPS AI, with some smart bits thrown in here and there, i've noticed the Xeno's will tend to try and swarm when in groups, but when theres only one or two left, they will go hide behind cover, or underneath platforms, which i thought was nice. One or two times i've noticed them just standing around, but its been very rare. Teammate AI, again standard FPS fare, they run around and shoot the Aliens. Again it just seems like standard AI to me, dunno how much it changes between difficulty levels though.

Gameplay

First of all, i just want to say as well, that i am really enjoying this. The Shooting feels very solid, with the Pulse Rifle, Shotgun and Pistol, all feeling completely different like they should. The Aliens seem able to take a fair bit of a beating, with a few even taking around 2-3 shotgun blasts from close before dying, with melee attacks being next to useless except for making some space between you and the Aliens. The game also does set up tension quite well, as noted with the first lurker fight, but especially just walking through dimly lit corridors, your always staying alert, watching for aliens, something which i don't think comes across when just watching a youtube vid, as hearing somebody talk over something does ruin any sense of immersion for me.


I think i've covered a lot of the issues i've read so far, so any questions fire away.

For all the people who have seen some of these fan reviews, first off i'd just say don't write the game off yet, i'd seen a lot of the comments before playing and i disagree with most of them, so definitely try to play it before casting judgement.

I'd not gonna go and say this is TEH BESTEST GAME EVAR, because it's not, it does have its flaws, with the occasionally poor textures, and moments of bad AI. 

So far, i'd give it a solid 7/10. I think a lot of people had very high expectations for this, which GBX didn't help with comments they made over the authenticity of all the events and canon and blah blah. For me at least, it's an enjoyable FPS in a universe i know and love.

Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:30:35 AM
2) And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more than a casual FPS that mimics all the story mistakes fans have been complaining as discontinuity since ALIEN³ and a pathetic gameplay disfavored to an atmosphere that is supposed to be reproduced to the identical (while it's not according to some hardcore fans on this forum).

You really enjoy run-on sentances, don't you? I applied a few grammatical corrections where they need apply for you. I'll save punctuation for you, though.

Regardless, those are ideas and inspirations implimented into the genre. They were making a game that was to be a spiritual successor to the movie ALIENS. Of course they would make it play out like an action shooter, that's what the movie was you dolt.

Meanwhile trying to make a good film out of a crossover never ends well.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 02:36:13 AM

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

ALIENS : Online was an officially licensed Fox game. Unless you're talking about the mod/conversion for AvP2, that's a different thing entirely.

Nay, i'm talking about the mod for the game that the fans created after it was shut down to try and keep the online servers running. Fox subsequently smashed their copyright hammer down at the several attempts made by the fan community until they ground it into dust.

Topics merged.

And thanks for the hands-on impressions, Dachande. :)

Dachande, your review doesn't seem littered with the constant "This didn't live up to 7 years of hype and expectation so I hate it" that nearly every other fan review i've seen on here has been littered with.

Nay, yours seems to be rather simple and to the point. I find your review the most legitimate out of all i've read thus far.

Additionally, I was wondering why that topic disappeared, Xenomorphine.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:28 AM

Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 02:30:35 AM
2) And it's their fault for pouring their heart and souls into nothing more than a casual FPS that mimics all the story mistakes fans have been complaining as discontinuity since ALIEN³ and a pathetic gameplay disfavored to an atmosphere that is supposed to be reproduced to the identical (while it's not according to some hardcore fans on this forum).

You really enjoy run-on sentances, don't you? I applied a few grammatical corrections where they need apply for you. I'll save punctuation for you, though.

Regardless, those are ideas and inspirations implimented into the genre. They were making a game that was to be a spiritual successor to the movie ALIENS. Of course they would make it play out like an action shooter, that's what the movie was you dolt.

Meanwhile trying to make a good film out of a crossover never ends well.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 02:36:13 AM

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 02:17:59 AM
You forgot ALIENS ONLINE.

The only reason that Fox hasn't nailed the guy that patched AvP2's servers after they were shut down is because the game's license to AvP2 belongs to about 7 different companies.

ALIENS : Online was an officially licensed Fox game. Unless you're talking about the mod/conversion for AvP2, that's a different thing entirely.

Nay, i'm talking about the mod for the game that the fans created after it was shut down to try and keep the online servers running. Fox subsequently smashed their copyright hammer down at the several attempts made by the fan community until they ground it into dust.

What makes you think that this "hate" as you like to name it comes from a so long wait?
I knew since the announcement of the game that something was quite wrong with it.
They imitated the Strause Brother in interviews:
"Our game gonna be the best, blabla, true and authentic, very much has ALIENS atmosphere and is true sequel blablablabla"
I'm not surprised at all, they do what they do the best: lie to sell.
Thanks for the corrections and yes I do enjoy them.
I hope it wasn't a question you were asking but an affirmation.
Feel free to apply corrections in the future.

BTW, I can't remember that 2/3 of the movie were about gunfire.
Maybe we didn't watch the same movie, maybe we did and forgot.

I had a feeling this game would suck since the first time I saw Randy Pritchford talk about it. Watching him spaz out about the game made me cringe.

Can people shut the f**k up with the fighting in this topic? I'm sick of seeing a new comment that isn't a fan review.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:26:22 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.

Haggle me for extra DLC money and make wild declarations of authenticity. No respect earned.  ;)

So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 04:12:22 AM

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 01:26:22 AM

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 01:23:46 AM
Gearbox poured their heart into this game. Like it, love it, hate it... please show some respect.

It's earned, not given.

Haggle me for extra DLC money and make wild declarations of authenticity. No respect earned.  ;)

So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?

Mods are free. Games are not.

I guess not.

Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 09, 2013, 01:11:50 AM
AVP was bad, like really bad but at least they got the "minimum" required for a game to work.
Aliens animations were very nice, graphics were good, controls were almost good only concerns were some part of the mechanic that were clearly broken and several things as the inability to change species in game.

A:CM doesn't seems to have that minimum.
Graphic sucks, we agree on that.
Animation sucks, we agree on that.
Mechanic is totally random and full of non sense like placing a ***** sentry gun in the middle of nowhere just for the sake of having a sentry gun in the game.
AI sucks, it could have work very very well if all Aliens were behaving like lurker and wouldn't stand 90% of the time on the ground.
Coding sucks, full of bug/lag/glitch that could have easily been fixed if given the proper amount of time to run correct test.
Story is unwise, why trying to change something that is already set up? Gearbox did not succeed where ALIEN³ or AVP failed, it mimic the exact same non linear mistakes that have been bothering the fans since ages. It is a total failure and far from giving an alien experience since their vision matches more the Strause soap.

Perhaps a patch could fix some of these issues? Prehaps a patch is due to go live from day one! (12/2)? I just wanna add that I'm more stocked for the multiplayer and couldn't give two fooks about single player? Has anyone played this co-op or would that not make any difference?

Quote from: Dachande on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:07 AMThe Aliens seem able to take a fair bit of a beating, with a few even taking around 2-3 shotgun blasts from close before dying

Playing on Hardened, I never had to shoot them more than twice with the shotgun to kill them, and that was mid range. Which difficulty were you playing ?

Finding it hard to find a proper review on this game. Is it not out yet in some regions??

I went into EB today and they have it on sale so I assume it's out??

Stores are breaking the street date which is why you see it on shelves. It's not out till the 12th.

Quote from: pixelbaron on Feb 09, 2013, 08:42:21 AM
Stores are breaking the street date which is why you see it on shelves. It's not out till the 12th.

ahh ok, The Australian shops don't usually do that.

I was going to pick it up but these games have a track record of being rubbish so I thought I'd hunt down a review first.

I'm finding the vast majority of these reviews to have no hinderence towards me. Graphics? They look fine to me, personally. I'm not a graphics whore. AI? Doesn't matter to me in the slightest. Linear campaign levels? Won't be an issue.

Why?

Because i'm getting the game mostly for the multiplayer, which while limited looks fun as hell. I've yet to see a review cover multiplayer at all, and only complain about the campaign. I've enjoyed playing from the xenomorph's POV since AvP 2000, and AvP2 after that. That is the main reason I am getting the game.

The second reason is that I have been a ALIEN fan for nearly twenty years and, since Fox green-lit this as canonical, i'm interested to see what they do with the storyline. And while I don't expect the story to be superb, I don't see any of the problems/issues presented by any review i've read in here to hinder the overall story.

IMO

1) Graphics are not everything.

2) AI sucks in most games. I think some of the AI in even Halo 4 sucks.

The fact ACM is lacking in graphics and AI does not bother me...at all.

Quote from: WeaN on Feb 09, 2013, 07:24:10 AM

Quote from: Dachande on Feb 09, 2013, 02:48:07 AMThe Aliens seem able to take a fair bit of a beating, with a few even taking around 2-3 shotgun blasts from close before dying

Playing on Hardened, I never had to shoot them more than twice with the shotgun to kill them, and that was mid range. Which difficulty were you playing ?

Just on soldier, granted they were mostly body shots. Who knows, maybe I just have shit aim! :P

Having watched alot of those videos now and going through the feedback and especially the critique and letdowns. A:CM looks like an average shooter through and through and it is, for me, sad that the wait was so long for everyone here.
So, I want to lay down my opinion what went wrong for those who expected something more:

Alien fans, especially the fans of Aliens, are looking more into the survival terror experience, not to a military COD -style on rails shootout. I personally think that the whole feeling of surviving is somehow lessened when there is an actual plot, a laid down path for you to follow through the cabinet of horrors. This works in a movie, but doesn't work in a game. Perhaps Aliens does not translate into a game in a cinematic way, as it is more about spontaneous intelligence to come up with quick solutions to keep yourself alive in an overwhelming stress situation where death is most certain if you stay put. Try staying put in A:CM, I promise you absolutely nothing happens as you have to trigger the events by moving forward blabla. You know the drill assholes and elbows! What an aliens game should be, might be something more of a simulation. Lets just say that you have two hours to get the hell out of some installation, a'la hadleys hope/the atmosphere processor and the game has an endless generation of aliens from a certain hive throughout the whole time. They wont wait, they will actively search for you, and they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead. There are the possibilities for emergent gameplay scenarios, how to barricade, what to scavenge, when to hide, when to run and why not ultimately, when to kill yourself to save your mates. So I would put my time and money into creating the ultimate sandbox experience. There could be civilians, who could act as the actual pawns and there would be a race against time to reach them before the xenos, as the casualties transfer directly to new aliens and there will not be enough ammo to kill them all.

Perhaps it is something like this, a role playing, bonding experience, surviving a hell together, or at least wishing to. Why did gearbox create almost a carbon copy of AVP 2010?

Guys, guys, guys and girls.
The game is good. Sure, it should have been much better but it's good.
Hadley's hope is better than the Sulaco, much better and things are starting to pick up.
Ripley's pulse rifle rocks (limited edition DLC).

To someone who asked before, I put the limited edition code last night and saw the movie characters in the MP customization menu.
They are there to play with.

Don't lose hope. The game is better than AVP 2010.

So everyone is comfortable with relegating it to Warhammer 40k: Space Marine class of game out of sudden while it has been hyped as an AAA title since 2008?

How would you compare this game in terms of quality to W40k: Space Marine?

Quote from: Salt The Fries on Feb 09, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
So everyone is comfortable with relegating it to Warhammer 40k: Space Marine class of game

You know that I am not  :laugh:

How does it fare compared to Alien: Trilogy and Resurrection btw?

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 09, 2013, 10:39:29 AM
I'm finding the vast majority of these reviews to have no hinderence towards me. Graphics? They look fine to me, personally. I'm not a graphics whore. AI? Doesn't matter to me in the slightest. Linear campaign levels? Won't be an issue.

Why?

Because i'm getting the game mostly for the multiplayer, which while limited looks fun as hell. I've yet to see a review cover multiplayer at all, and only complain about the campaign. I've enjoyed playing from the xenomorph's POV since AvP 2000, and AvP2 after that. That is the main reason I am getting the game.

The second reason is that I have been a ALIEN fan for nearly twenty years and, since Fox green-lit this as canonical, i'm interested to see what they do with the storyline. And while I don't expect the story to be superb, I don't see any of the problems/issues presented by any review i've read in here to hinder the overall story.

Wow, your standards are low. Do you even like videogames?

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 09, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
2) AI sucks in most games. I think some of the AI in even Halo 4 sucks.

No, actually, I haven't seen AI performing this poorly in quite some time.

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 04:12:22 AM
So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?

Was I making outlandish promises and hyping the shit out of it? No. I cited an example with regards to AI. That's it. I didn't lie to anybody about the content.

Not to mention, I expect something more from a developer with several dozen members working on something for six years with millions of dollars invested than a single hobbyist working out of his freaking bedroom. Just a bit of a gap there, wouldn't you say?

to those who have the game, whats the customization like? Marine and Xeno? screencaps if possible?

Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)

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Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 09, 2013, 11:16:47 AM
2) AI sucks in most games. I think some of the AI in even Halo 4 sucks.

No, actually, I haven't seen AI performing this poorly in quite some time.

Quote from: Predaker on Feb 09, 2013, 04:12:22 AM
So if I don't like that mod you made with the flamethrower in the air ducts, it's perfectly acceptable to post pictures of your face and make fun of you?

QuoteWas I making outlandish promises and hyping the shit out of it? No. I cited an example with regards to AI. That's it. I didn't lie to anybody about the content.

Not to mention, I expect something more from a developer with several dozen members working on something for six years with millions of dollars invested than a single hobbyist working out of his freaking bedroom. Just a bit of a gap there, wouldn't you say?

OpenMaw you really remind me of Hudson when he spazzez out.

6 YEARS MAN, 6 YEARS MAKING THIS GAME! IT AIN'T FAIR MAN

(https://thedoorisajar.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hudson.jpg)

Quote from: Sgt.Camacho on Feb 09, 2013, 03:56:45 PM
6 YEARS MAN, 6 YEARS MAKING THIS GAME! IT AIN'T FAIR MAN

https://thedoorisajar.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hudson.jpg

Don't know how you're making that leap. I'm not yelling, angry, afraid, panicky, irrational, or nonsensical.

If you have a point you disagree on, state it and refute it. Trying to say i'm emotional, irrational, or a cry baby doesn't discount what i'm saying.

It's a fact. I can list dozens of games released over the last twelve years that have had exceptional AI compared to what we've seen so far in A:CM.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)

but not the xeno customization man XD chompin at the bit to see these ridiculous cosmetic upgrades

Quote from: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 04:06:38 PM

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)

but not the xeno customization man XD chompin at the bit to see these ridiculous cosmetic upgrades

They did show some of it very briefly at one point.

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 04:07:21 PM

Quote from: Byohzrd on Feb 09, 2013, 04:06:38 PM

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 09, 2013, 03:37:33 PM
Watch the IGN Live! and you can see the full customization  ;)

but not the xeno customization man XD chompin at the bit to see these ridiculous cosmetic upgrades

They did show some of it very briefly at one point.

No they mentioned it when someone asked if you could change the color of your xeno and he said something vague about different cosmetic upgrades, they didn't show any though, they did however show some of the xeno loadouts and attack/defense upgrades.

Ah, my apologies. I thought that's what you were referring to.  :laugh:

Quote from: OpenMaw on Feb 09, 2013, 04:23:10 PM
Ah, my apologies. I thought that's what you were referring to.  :laugh:

Its all good mate, i'm just really interested in the crazy new designs they made for the xenos, the few i saw in the MP previews were okay at best, really hoping theres a lot more, there seemed like there was DOZENS of customizations for the marines i just hope the xenos got the same treatment.




Also, from what ive gathered from the videos posted, SP is meh at best, and MP is prettty sweet itself. I'm okay with this. Not thrilled, but not exactly heartbroken either, just, okay with it.

Can we get a PC Review?

Quote from: reecebomb on Feb 09, 2013, 02:14:30 PM
Wow, your standards are low. Do you even like videogames?

If I sold half of the video games I own for half the price I paid for them, I could probably pay off my car.

I'm an avid gamer. I just know what to expect from a video game, and have my priorities more on gameplay, multiplayer, and the overall story rather then small details like graphics.

So I just got through a few missions. What is everyone complaining about? The graphics look great on my Xbox and high def television. The game play is entertaining and the mix between human and alien enemies is good. The AI definitely needs a little work but its nothin to cry over as I've seen so much worse. Story is pulling me in so far and is keeping my interest in completing the SP campaign. Lurkers are definitely my favorite encounters so far and I'm hoping to run into more. When I complete the game ill put my full review. I think gamers like me who don't nitpick at every single little detail will enjoy this game.

Quote from: Jango1201 on Feb 09, 2013, 06:44:45 PM
So I just got through a few missions. What is everyone complaining about? The graphics look great on my Xbox and high def television. The game play is entertaining and the mix between human and alien enemies is good. The AI definitely needs a little work but its nothin to cry over as I've seen so much worse. Story is pulling me in so far and is keeping my interest in completing the SP campaign. Lurkers are definitely my favorite encounters so far and I'm hoping to run into more. When I complete the game ill put my full review. I think gamers like me who don't nitpick at every single little detail will enjoy this game.

^Probably going to be exactly what I think.

I'm also enjoying the game immensely, it's not perfect but its still great fun and very playable.

ATTN: Byohazard.

From what i've looked through each Xeno has 3 different head customisations. the Warrior has three that look like dinosaur skulls, some of which look pretty sweet. The Spitter has 3 variations of the bulbous green sacs, with different patterns. ATM i can't remember all the Lurker one's, but the one that springs to mind was a really awesome looking one with no dome, a sort of spiked mohawk, and the original Alien face, so it looks kinda like a skull.

I just finished playing the campaign. Took me exactly six hours. Here's my thoughts coming from someone who has barely followed the game for the past few months.

The good:

Rooted in the Aliens universe but I don't consider it canon.

Graphics look fine to me. Environments are very nicely detailed. I liked being able to explore Hadley's Hope and the Derelict even if everything is very linear in nature.

Iron Sights and been able to crouch are a big plus.

The atmosphere, I guess.

Some alien classes that we've not seen before.

Michael Biehn and Lance Henriksen. Even though they didn't have much to do. It was nice having the connection.

Ability to upgrade your weapons.

The bad:

The character models could be a lot better. How they look and move.

There's quite a few bugs. Lip-sync issues. A lot of doors seem to take to up to 30 seconds to open. Not sure if that's a bug or deliberate. The way the xenos move and die. Some seem to vanish in front of you while others explode.

Marines - I didn't like how the shooting felt. Maybe it was the sound effects. But it felt very weird when you hit a human or a xeno. For some reason it was hard getting the gun steady with iron sights. Aiming for headshots if near impossible as the gun is bouncing around. Doesn't seem to do it when you upgrade it though.

The weapon selection menu thing is a mess quite frankly. Takes way too long to get what you want. The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.

The game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

The biggest complaint for me is the complete lack of story. There really isn't one. There's very few cut scenes that actually explains anything and the game ends rather abruptly. The game basically gives you the chance to explore the Sulaco, Hadleys Hope and the Derelict while doing some objectives. That's it. It's not necessarily a bad thing but it could have been so much better.

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How does it compare to AvP? Hard to say as there were three separate campaigns in AVP with varied environments and gameplay. I'd say Rebellion were a lot more passionate about the franchise than Gearbox ever was. At the end of the day though, it's just a game set in the Aliens universe and in a few months, we'll have forgotten all about it. It's just not worth arguing about the things that could have been better.

Darkness, why can you only hurt? I could laugh off the fan reviews as people expecting too much, but I trust you. I really wanted this game to be just average, above average maybe.

Damn. DS3 and A:CM. GoW Judgement is going to be this way too. The only silver lining is at least Halo 4 is popular and I like it.

Quote from: Enenra on Feb 09, 2013, 10:25:21 PM
Darkness, why can you only hurt? I could laugh off the fan reviews as people expecting too much, but I trust you. I really wanted this game to be just average, above average maybe.

Damn. DS3 and A:CM. GoW Judgement is going to be this way too. The only silver lining is at least Halo 4 is popular and I like it.

I liked Halo 4 as well but there were some things I definitely did not like. But it was still a very good game.

I got the game today . i have not yet completed singleplayer but i am pretty far in . I must say i realy like it so far . Yes sure it feels kind of dated it has some bugs here and there but i hope a patch will be released soon for this. only thing is story could have been better and the scare factor is almost except for mission 5 not present . Multiplayer is also  little buggy but i have had a blast so far :) . its realy cool to stalk and pounce your buddys from the dark .  i will give it a solid 7 out of 10 , just dont go in expecting the ultimate alien experience . still think avp 2 holds that title, for me that is .

Quote from: Enenra on Feb 09, 2013, 10:25:21 PM
Darkness, why can you only hurt? I could laugh off the fan reviews as people expecting too much, but I trust you. I really wanted this game to be just average, above average maybe.

Damn. DS3 and A:CM. GoW Judgement is going to be this way too. The only silver lining is at least Halo 4 is popular and I like it.

Dead Space 3 is an awesome game, A:CM completly the opposite. The game just ruined my entire day. I would have rather spend my money on something different, or even give my money to charity... instead I am stuck with a box I don't want to open anymore...
I am no longer pre-ordering games... such a waste of everything including my hopes

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PMThe game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

Really? All of the AvP games can be exceptionally scary in my opinion.

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.

I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.

I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"

In fact, several mods for various games made that the way it functioned. You had to pull it out, and risk being caught off guard.

Aliens : Online, had it that way too. Which I thought was way cooler, especially because it took up a large chunk of your screen.

alot of people are completely off topic. i clicked on here to read reviews not people bitching about a game they've yet to play.

Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 10, 2013, 02:06:52 AM
alot of people are completely off topic. i clicked on here to read reviews not people bitching about a game they've yet to play.

This. Every time I've looked at this thread.

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 10, 2013, 02:15:30 AM

Quote from: hfeldhaus on Feb 10, 2013, 02:06:52 AM
alot of people are completely off topic. i clicked on here to read reviews not people bitching about a game they've yet to play.

This. Every time I've looked at this thread.

Seconded.

Cos posting "This thread is off topic" and have it followed by two posts that contribute f**k-all but "Agreed" is helping.

I don't know how far through I am -- I just finished the mission The Raven -- and so far my only gripes stem from two things:

* It's about as tense as watching kittens frolicking in a field of daffodils
* Their attempts to make the game flow with the game are making me pick holes in it where I otherwise wouldn't care.

There's no threat from the Aliens. The only times I've died so far have been from accidentally blowing myself up with a pulse rifle grenade, a sentry gun cutting me down before I saw it, and getting trounced by the first boss thing because we couldn't see the pipe we were supposed to run through to get around him. I'm amazed at the utter, utter lack of any kind of suspense or atmosphere in the game, which is a first for me playing an Aliens-related FPS. The AvP games, particularly the first two PC ones, were tense as balls and they barely had Aliens in their first marine missions (Slash none at all for AvP2).

Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 04:34:59 AM
Cos posting "This thread is off topic" and have it followed by two posts that contribute f**k-all but "Agreed" is helping.

I don't know how far through I am -- I just finished the mission The Raven -- and so far my only gripes stem from two things:

* It's about as tense as watching kittens frolicking in a field of daffodils
* Their attempts to make the game flow with the game are making me pick holes in it where I otherwise wouldn't care.

There's no threat from the Aliens. The only times I've died so far have been from accidentally blowing myself up with a pulse rifle grenade, a sentry gun cutting me down before I saw it, and getting trounced by the first boss thing because we couldn't see the pipe we were supposed to run through to get around him. I'm amazed at the utter, utter lack of any kind of suspense or atmosphere in the game, which is a first for me playing an Aliens-related FPS. The AvP games, particularly the first two PC ones, were tense as balls and they barely had Aliens in their first marine missions (Slash none at all for AvP2).

I might have missed it earlier, but what difficulty are you paying as? And how does the shooting feel? The Gunplay in borderlands 1 felt too floaty, but they improved it quite a bit in the sequel and I'm curious how it compares.

I think I've only got it on Soldier, but considering how inaccurate every weapon is and how many Aliens you get swarmed by, there should be some struggle.

The shooting feels like playing Borderlands before you level up your weapon proficiency ... even with upgrades. I can't tell if I've hit anything half the time unless I'm right next to it.

I just watched a full 1080p walkthrough of the campaign, and have not yet played the game myself. These are my thoughts on what can be seen and what has made itself apparent, having played or not.

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At one point in the campaign, a Marine can be seen through glass in an incredibly small boxed room that serves seemingly no purpose. He's screaming things as he shoots into a dark vent over and over where aliens are presumably trying to advance on him from. You're supposed to cut the door to get him out, but it's clear that you can keep watching him through the glass do this forever on a loop. All of the elements are there to make it a summation of the campaign. Confining, repetitive, and obnoxious.

This is the Duke Nukem Forever Gearbox and not the Borderlands Gearbox, to be certain. The game design is outdated, the gameplay is a headache of repetition as you gun down a plethora of Aliens and (what seems to be even more) Weyland Yutani mercenaries, press buttons, and move on to the next 'wink wink' setpiece. And man are they utterly unspectacular. While the aesthetic is better than most games, and follows closely to that of Aliens, the actual spaces are dull playgrounds, like a gravel 'sandbox'. It comes down to uninspired, linear fan service that is magically cramped close together.

The plot is next to non-existent. Luckily, there are some bearable characters (aside from Cruz' unbearable macho-man voice and godawful lines) with likeable personalities and well done voice-acting work. The writing isn't anything special, but most of anything amusing comes from the in-game banter. As for the story, the claim that it will make you feel that Alien³ is better because of it is utterly self-indulgent and not true in the slightest bit...

Spoiler

All it does is salvage Hicks and give a reason for the Sulacco going into high-alert and ejecting the EEV, never once mentioning the egg on-board or how Ripley was impregnated. The worst part is Hicks never explaining but supposedly knowing why there was a body in his place. When asked whose body it is, he simply responds "that's a longer story". Are you-- are you f**king kidding me? The one thing left from validating his presence in the game aside from being fan-wank and that's what we get? "That's a longer story"? f**k off. That is truly terrible writing.

[close]

Atmosphere is something I thought the game would actually have going for it, but after the first 10 or so minutes of actual gameplay and once the hordes of brainless xenos come in, with the Call of Duty-Experience™ Weyland-Yutani mercs very soon after, it goes straight out the window. Everything around the player, from the environments to the aliens themselves just become novelty items and the authenticity that the game was so heavily hyped upon (thank you, Gearbox PR department) is nothing more than a nudge and a wink. Any AvP game did it better... and those had Predators for god's sake.

I'll try not to dwell on the graphics for too long, but technically in general, the game is less-than remarkable. The character models and ani... er, animations (if that's what they can truly be called) are last-gen, and that is no hyperbole. It shows how long the game has been in development for in the worst way, and without the excuse of a studio switch like Duke Nukem Forever had. If a facial expression ever changed, it was a slight furrow of the brow and nothing more. On top of that, the eyes barely blinked, the mouths seldom moved, and everybody looked as though they were lacking an entire texture layer. From a distance, some of the lighting looks pretty and helps with the mood of some of the lower-maintenance scenes, but it's just a distraction from what it looks like when you move slightly closer. The sound design is the best part of the presentation with everything hitting the right beats, the score most of all, but after a while, like the rest of the game, it all drones on and recycles itself to headache inducing levels.

The AI are below sub-par (save from the sometimes cunning and oddly competent Lurker), particularly friendlies, doing next to nothing at all aside from shooting what is directly in their line of sight. They're useless, and the enemies aren't much better. The Wey-Yu mercs will pull the standard duck and cover or stand out in the open and shout 'come, sweet death' as your gunfire reigns down upon them. At least your teammates blocking doorways isn't an issue, seeing as you can clip right through them at any time as if you were f**king Casper the Friendly Ghost. Really, at no point in development, did nobody look at the fact that you could walk straight through your allies and think "this is kind of awful"? Who am I kidding, they've got the a million other un-assessed basic problems on their hands already. These are basic contemporary game design expectations, so please, apologists, think before you forgive this kind of miserable offering.

I figure I'll wrap it up pretty quickly here, seeing as this is slipping into TL;DR territory, if I haven't reached that point already. I may get some flack for writing this before playing the game myself, but after watching it the whole way through for 6+ hours, what more can be said for the game's campaign? I'm still holding out hope that much more attention has been put into the multiplayer and playing it with friends will hold up nicely (as it did with AvP 2010... though even that, for all of its backtracking, had a better Marine campaign than this). This has been a troubling 6-year stretch blunder of a game, and it seems to just ride the backs of a slew of other games that have come out in that time... most notably Call of Duty and Battlefield series. With nothing but Alien and repeat mercs, that formula can't fly in the Alien universe, and this is exhibit-A of why not.

As somebody who has gone along for the full arc of this game's hype, even at times playing the optimist, I can honestly and objectively say that this is certainly not the sequel to Aliens we 'always wanted'.

I was so excited for this game. SO hopeful. Duke Nukem territory huh? Fantastic. I even skipped out on registering for a school dance because I figured this is what I'd want to be doing on my Friday. Don't I feel retarded.

Hopefully I'll still have fun with the game, even if it is a another buttcheeks quality rendition of a once great franchise.

I've started a couple of threads recently, and I intend for this to be my last. In the other threads I tried not to get to the point of just utterly insulting the developers, but now that's I've seen the game beginning to end, I can't help but say I am actually kind of offended.  I know that's probably taking it a bit far, but I don't bother much with games these days, and when I do it's usually something that I'm already invested and interested in. I think most of the real Aliens fans are the ones who were alive to see at least the third movie in theatres, and that's the perspective I'm taking.

First off, this game was in development for a long time, scrapped, and reworked, and this is what they make. This wouldn't be a huge point with me, but I'm an avid hater of mindless shooter games, such as Call of Duty. I asked a friend to sit through a walk through with me, and around the fourth part he mentioned that this was a "clone of Call of Duty." Granted, with aliens. I'm not asking for the most intelligent game out there with this one, nor was I expecting it, but to Have Hicks alive and not really explain how or why (the body that was on the EEV is still a mystery, as far as I know), is a flat out slap in the face to the efforts of those who made Alien 3 (which was trouble from the beginning, but released by the perseverance of Fincher. For a young guy he had alot on his plate).

Also, he mentioned that the graphics were "Practically last Gen" which I agree with. There's alot of pixillation when you look at certain lights, or when you actually bother to study the surroundings. this was even brought up in a walk through of the game I watched later. For as long as this was in development, you'd think minor matters such as lights and glare would be honed in and polished off, it doesn't feel that way.

What was an amazing concept of no HUD at all has turned into "Badass mode" This to me is gimmicky. They might as well have added the motion tracker to the HUD (which, by the way, having to switch over to use it like it was done so in the film feels gimmicky). I believe anyone could beat this game without it and not miss it. Not that it was pertinent in the previous games, but at least then it wasn't a conscious effort to remind you that 'this is a game'.

The welding tool could have been used better. cutting open a hand-ful of doors, sealing others at key points in the game is kind of a turn off. The previous build always gave me the impression that the welding tool was more essential and offered more freedom. Don't want an alien sneaking up behind you? Weld the door. Need to hold a position against the aliens, weld the vents and doors shut. I could have just assumed to much, but as linear as this game is, we could have foregone the welding tool entirely, and it's just another cheap, near meaningless game mechanic. I was hoping ACM, because it's centered around the marines, would give the player more options and use out of these iconic pieces of equipment.

And the AA guns? What shooter game doesn't have those? Again, falling back on readily available mechanics to prolong the time spent playing the game. I had hoped for something more imaginative. The corridor shooter vibe of this game is possibly the second biggest turn off, after the "Canon" Story which infringes upon the canon of Aliens Resurrection (in matters of cannon, always go with the first media base, in this case the films, and then what established the facts firsts, in this case Aliens Resurrection, which i'm not much a fan of).

It's because of these things, and more that I've lost my drive to play this game. I don't like being the "Hater" but in this case, I think it's justified. Go look at my other posts and threads, I've given Gearbox as much benefit of the doubt as I reasonably could, as I know many others in this forum have. Gearbox called this cannon and authentic, and I just don't feel it, hear it or see it. The atmosphere might be similar, the guns might sound the game, but the story with Hicks, the massive amount of weyland yutani commandos, and the often silly Alien A.I. that we've seen in some of the walk throughs, I won't try to defend the developer anymore.

Enough of my rant for now, how about yours?

Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 06:51:34 AM
I think I've only got it on Soldier, but considering how inaccurate every weapon is and how many Aliens you get swarmed by, there should be some struggle.

The shooting feels like playing Borderlands before you level up your weapon proficiency ... even with upgrades. I can't tell if I've hit anything half the time unless I'm right next to it.

Just like every GBX game since BL. Why they can't do the shooting like in BiA? It was fine there.

I have no rant. I'm an alien fan for 20 years now and a casual gamer. I've played 1/2 the game and I love it so far. It has some fault but nothing that makes me feel insulted. I believe they really tried and would love to see someone do better (minus a graphics arguement).

Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 10, 2013, 12:40:01 AM

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PMThe game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

Really? All of the AvP games can be exceptionally scary in my opinion.

Perhaps when they first came out. But nowadays, we've seen the creatures that many times, they're just not scary any more.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.

I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"

I get that it's a separate thing in the movies but you'll barely use it in singleplayer because of that. Apart from the first encounter with an alien, you never need it because there's always so many of them around you. I think if it was on screen, it would add to the tension a bit more hearing the beeps all the time.

Knowing what they're like isn't why it's not scary; the game just isn't well done. Any enemy can be scary so long as it poses a threat and the game makes you fear for your character's wellbeing. That just did not happen here. When you dread the human enemies in an Aliens game more than the Aliens, you dun gone f**ked up.

Usually I'm pretty forgiving when it comes to games, I can get past unpolished games, because I try to see good sides in everything. Hell, I enjoyed Alone in the Dark from 2008...But come Tuesday, if it really turns out to be as bad as so many people already suggested - I might not account for my actions on Gearbox forums and I would never STOP.

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Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
Knowing what they're like isn't why it's not scary; the game just isn't well done. Any enemy can be scary so long as it poses a threat and the game makes you fear for your character's wellbeing. That just did not happen here. When you dread the human enemies in an Aliens game more than the Aliens, you dun gone f**ked up.

So, still Alien: Resurrection remains the infinitely superior game, right?

Compared to this, God yes. That game was great and the Aliens were pants-shitting in all their low-poly glory.

I finally finished the game, so I have some kind of review to write:

On the story front, this is one of the worst self-indulgent masturbatory fan-fics I've ever had the displeasure of sitting through, and good God have I read through a lot of them. I've read better fan-fics than this. I've written better fan-fics than this. The entire thing is geared towards crawling up Aliens' backside and making base camp somewhere around the lower intestinal tract. It's like watching someone pick up a priceless broken vase to glue it back together with hot glue muttering "See? See? It still fits! It still goes together! It can be just like nothing ever happened!"

In terms of the actual gameplay it's a shambles. The directional pad on the XBox 360 controller never seemed to work properly, and assigning two functions to one button -- turn your torch on and pull out your pistol -- ended with me drawing a pea-shooter in the middle of a fight with six Aliens when I decided it'd be nice to see what the hell was going on. I didn't mind the tracker being something you had to pick up, but the game was so devoid of atmosphere, tension, or dread, there didn't seem to be any risk in whipping it out to check for targets or see your mission waypoint. At that point they may as well have integrated it with the HUD like old times.

The worst aspect, though, for my money, when it comes to actually enjoying the game, is that the Aliens aren't the primary threat. The Weyland-Yutani guys are. Aliens may be in the title and there might be a shitload of the buggers, but the only sections which gave me difficulty in any real sense were ones wherein I was being shot at, not clawed to pieces. The Aliens were a persistent yet minor annoyance for most of the game, and I swear they didn't start bleeding acid until the last couple of levels.

Overall I sincerely feel like I've wasted my money :-\

I find Gearbox expecting fans to swallow their bullshit about the storyline kind of insulting as well as their baseless claims about "authenticity".  Beyond that, can't say without playing it.

"Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining" springs to mind when it comes to what was said vs. what was delivered.

Is every god damn shooter game going to be a Call of duty clone from now on.
By the sounds of some people you would think COD was the first shooter game ever made. >:(

I want to post every quote of mine that I can find on this game, but all I'll say is that I am not personally insulted, but I do feel offended when they say all this stuff about being authentic, and that every details is strictly the same as the movie...which it obviously is not. The fact that they continue to stay adamant about this is madness.

It's like Uwe Boll now, isn't it? It has reached THAT levels of denial, hasn't it?

If Uwe Boll made a  movie I think we'd come full circle.

After playing Halo 4 multiplayer for just 2 days - there was no f**king way I'd trade that awesomeness for A:CM...In the end I'm glad I kinda bought A:CM - I'll have something to trade it in for BioShock: Infinite and keep Halo 4 - FOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER!!!

Looks like A:CM won't even make me sell L4D2 to keep a multiplayer-oriented game in my possession...

I never even realised the motion tracker also had your objectives on it until the end of the game. That's how much I used it. Could have done with having the objectives on screen all the time.

I don't think the acid even hurts you does it?

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:02:43 AM


I don't think the acid even hurts you does it?

From what I've seen, it only makes you not be able to regenerate a health slot like you normally would if you were attacked by a claw, or a bullet, or something. It's possible that it does damage you, but if it does I'm not seeing.

Acid spit seems to bypass your armour to damage you. I noticed I was taking damage when I shot Aliens up close and walked on their corpses towards the end of the game, but the first Alien I killed I blasted with a shotgun and danced a merry jig on its corpse with no repercussions.

My God, even in Alien Trilogy acid from the corpses hurt you upon walking...In Alien Resurrection they could spit acid on you at times and it was a pleasant surprise how much they were able to do there, acid hurt you too...Oh and they only walked bi-pedally once they were close to you and centered at you.

The AvP for the Atari Jaguar was the biggest pain with acid blood. Alien corpses never disappeared and would often take up the whole hallway -- and clogged vents something chronic.

But with this, I don't even know. Maybe on higher difficulty settings?

What is wrong with u people the game is brilliant. Seems like all u want to do is hurt the sales of this game and then will never be an aliens game ever again and this forum will have nothing to moan about seeing as u killed the franchise with ur whining. All i can say is play the game on ultimate badass mode if u want to install fear and get the proper experience. Playing the game in normal and fluing theough it in 6 hours is not how u play this game or watching a 6 hour video. The aliens are a real threat in UBA mode and i often get cut down when overwhelmed by them.
The AI seems good to me,the weyland yutani flank me,the aliens flank me,they attack from all directions just like the end scene in hadleys hope.and the aliens dont have a high IQ in the films anyway so what do u expect.

The graphics are great particually the lighting. The animations on the cut scenes are not the best i admit which kinda pulls you out of the experience sometimes but it wasnt a major issue like some moan about on here. Im here to kill bugs nothing more and this game lets me do that with style

Dont let the moaners on here cloud your judgement. Judge the game yourself.

What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

If ACM sells more than AVP 2010, which I think it will, then we will definitely see another game withing 2-3 years. I just want ONE good one. ONE that can be GOTY material. Is that too much to ask?

I don't think it'll sell anywhere near as much as AvP did.

Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what

Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:44 AM

Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what

Triple A or not, we'll see the Xenomorphs in video game form again.

Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:20:58 AM
What is wrong with u people the game is brilliant. Seems like all u want to do is hurt the sales of this game and then will never be an aliens game ever again and this forum will have nothing to moan about seeing as u killed the franchise with ur whining.

Yeah man, I'm hoping for a good, hm, let's say six thousand unit sale loss because of my negative review of the campaign.

Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:44 AM

Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what

The last AAA Aliens title was called what?

Gearbox flat out lied about so many things it's not even funny. We should not let them get away with that.

Gearbox made the mistake of starting the campaign with the Sulaco.
If the first level was Hadley's hope, the reception would have been better because first impressions are most important.
Anyway, with all it's shortcomings it's still a fun game to play when you actually play.
And I insist that it's miles better than AvP 2010!

Avp 2010 was a AAA title.

(video games) A video game expected to sell well, typically with a higher budget than budget software.[1]

I must admit it took a bit too long to get to Hadley's Hope. It was nice to have a change of scenery.

They did drag out the sulaco section. I think level 2 was fun but pointless. They game picks up when you hit hadleys hope

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 09:08:08 AM

Quote from: Vertigo on Feb 10, 2013, 12:40:01 AM

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PMThe game isn't scary but I don't think the series ever can be.

Really? All of the AvP games can be exceptionally scary in my opinion.

Perhaps when they first came out. But nowadays, we've seen the creatures that many times, they're just not scary any more.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:55:47 AM

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 09, 2013, 09:09:46 PM
The motion tracker should also be part of the HUD, not tucked away.

I disagree entirely. It was a seperate device in the film that the marines had to holister their weapons and hold out in front of them, it was never a part of their HUD. I prefer it this way, it adds more gameplay. "Should I keep my weapon ready, or sneak a quick glance at the tracker since it's pinging?"

I get that it's a separate thing in the movies but you'll barely use it in singleplayer because of that. Apart from the first encounter with an alien, you never need it because there's always so many of them around you. I think if it was on screen, it would add to the tension a bit more hearing the beeps all the time.

So let me get this straight.

You guys are all complaining that this game isn't immersive and has very little atmosphere, and yet you want to get rid of one of the only gameplay mechanics that add immersion? A gameplay mechanic that was shown to be used in the exact same way in the films, no less.


Brilliance.

No, the opposite. I wanted the motion tracker on the screen all the time, not hidden away.

I think the issue is that the tracker is useless because there are so many Aliens on screen. What's the point when they are literally coming out of the walls? You don't see them using a tracker in the Hive once the shit hits the fan. On the other hand, the tracker is excellently well done when fighting Lurkers in the Hives.

Basically all the Warriors should have been scrapped, and every level consist of 4-5 Lurkers who can kill you in one hit. Sorted.

Kalawaki, I know you're a faith-driven apologist and all, but do try to understand what people are saying. The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it. Like everything else, it's a novelty item. Try playing one of the AvP games where it's part of the HUD, and you'll see that it's of more persistent use (also having to do with the Aliens trying to stalk instead of rush).

It just occurred to me that being able to use the Motion Tracker is no different than occasionally glancing at a motion tracker that is a part of your hud...holy f**k this knowledge saddens me. Regardless, I think it's a nice addition, but yeah.

Let's see if it's a more valuable dynamic in MP where human wit comes into play.

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
I don't think it'll sell anywhere near as much as AvP did.

Why? People wanted another game and AVP was a letdown. I can see sheer sales just because of the name alone.

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Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 11:27:02 AM
It just occurred to me that being able to use the Motion Tracker is no different than occasionally glancing at a motion tracker that is a part of your hud...holy f**k this knowledge saddens me. Regardless, I think it's a nice addition, but yeah.

That icon is too small to tell where movement is and how far. I don't really think it's a big deal. I'd rather not have it at all though. Rely on your ears when the pings start going off.

We were all waiting for an AvP game forever. It already had an established franchise. The only thing ACM has is the fact it's based on Aliens. Is that enough? Plus, the marketing for ACM has been pretty poor compared to AvP.

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 11:40:31 AM

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
I don't think it'll sell anywhere near as much as AvP did.

Why? People wanted another game and AVP was a letdown. I can see sheer sales just because of the name alone.

Not necessarily, a major part of the gaming turnover is going to be your typical 16-20 year old male right? I suggested to my nephew to wait for reviews before buying the new Aliens game as he always buys the latest shooters. Not only had he never heard of this game, he'd never heard of or seen the original Alien quadrilogy, his entire knowledge of Aliens and Predators is that AVP and AVP:R were shit, and who cares about those things anyways?

He's 17, and we're in the UK (maybe Aliens is more prevalent in the states, I do not know) but at least in my experience, anyone under the age of 25 is a very real minority in the Aliens fanbase. Even tried running a D&D campaign recently at my local FLGS based on recreating the film Aliens. We got one sign up, out of a forum with over two hundred gaming members, because it wasn't 40k or Warmachine and most of them had either never heard of Aliens or thought it was simply old and shit.

Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 10:46:24 AM

Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:20:58 AM
What is wrong with u people the game is brilliant. Seems like all u want to do is hurt the sales of this game and then will never be an aliens game ever again and this forum will have nothing to moan about seeing as u killed the franchise with ur whining.

Yeah man, I'm hoping for a good, hm, let's say six thousand unit sale loss because of my negative review of the campaign.

Quote from: SilkySilly on Feb 10, 2013, 10:43:44 AM

Quote from: SiL on Feb 10, 2013, 10:25:33 AM
What a load of wank.

There's been plenty of unsuccessful Aliens games. We still ended up with this one being made. There'll always be more.

And the last unseccessful AAA aliens title was called what

The last AAA Aliens title was called what?

Aliens Infestation (DS) 10/10
Aliens Resurrection (PSX) 10/10  (just the movie killed this game for me aswell...i just couldnt play it)
/and imo Aliens vs Predator: Extinction (PS2) 8/10 /

these games imo had everything u want in an Aliens game and they are quality games

i like really AVP2 aswell because of the scary atmosphere on that distant planet but had some annoying bugs for me...eg. saved a bunch of marines in a scripted alien attack where they supposed to die...then they stood there in the hallway waiting for the colony to explode.. -.-' a big moment killer not to have a line for this situation like "we are going after you buddy or something..."
AND YES I JUST HATED THIS IN IT thats why is just a 8/10 for me :D

I can't believe not only Aliens: Infestation but also AVP 2010 might turn out to be a lot better games than this...

Until I get my hands on it, I really can't tell if this is better or worse than AvP 2010...because that game made me so mad at how broken it was.

i dunno guys whats your problem with AVP2010 besides it's length, story, voice acting, characters...and it was just empty, no alien vibe at all ...but as a shooter and as a game it was ok, no serious glitches, dumb things and graphic problems

it seems like ACM has the same problems plus its not a well written game

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:06:00 PM
i dunno guys whats your problem with AVP2010 besides it's length, story, voice acting, characters...and it was just empty, no alien vibe at all ...but as a shooter and as a game it was ok, no serious glitches, dumb things and graphic problems

it seems like ACM has the same problems plus its not a well written game

Well, besides all that, I have to chalk up my experience with very bad A.I. then. Because for me, The Aliens were literally falling into single file lines. You could stealth kill a Marine, and his buddy...who wasn't even 8 feet away, would even bother to do anything, and if they did see the body...only that Marine would be on patrol mode while another who was fairly close would just be standing there. The former marine would eventually end patrolling and act as if his buddy wasn't killed. It was really awful in that regard for me if you don't count everything else that was bad.

Well, aside from the backtracking, AvP 2010 was actually a competently designed and programmed game in the basic respects. What it really lacked was species balance, even level design, replayability, better pacing, and proper story conclusion. It actually got quite a few things right in comparison to A:CM.

hey all, Been a long time ago since I wrote anything in here. I tried this game yesterday and I would like to share my opinion.

1. Graphic looks like this game was made for xbox 1 and not xbox 360 or ps3. 2. Gameplay is not that bad but its still bad that it sucks if you know what I mean. ME like many of you have been waiting for many years for this game to come out and when it got released then I wished it never did. They f**kt us all by releasing some good looking trailers but in real life this game has the graphic of a game that is 5 or 6 years old. The loading time when you die is a pain in the A. I could go smoke and take a coffe before the loading time is over.

The Aliens in this game looks bad, not enough blood, and picking up AMMO is a pain in the ass sometimes. I been playing dead space 3 and I can tell you its a masterpeace to this peace of crap game. Trust me when I say this, alot of people are gonna get pissed and dissapointed.

Only good thing about this game is the sound of the motion sensor and the rifle.  I will give this game 3.5 out of 10.

Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it.

Playing Devils advocate: Thats the meaning I have read so far from what people are saying.

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. The ammo pickups were just neverending. Why couldn't they just make it so that you could pick them up automatically without having to select a button.

Quote from: Darkness on Feb 10, 2013, 12:35:22 PM
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. The ammo pickups were just neverending. Why couldn't they just make it so that you could pick them up automatically without having to select a button.

Good idea but to late now

Quote from: ShadowPred on Feb 10, 2013, 12:11:01 PM

Quote from: szkoki on Feb 10, 2013, 12:06:00 PM
i dunno guys whats your problem with AVP2010 besides it's length, story, voice acting, characters...and it was just empty, no alien vibe at all ...but as a shooter and as a game it was ok, no serious glitches, dumb things and graphic problems

it seems like ACM has the same problems plus its not a well written game

Well, besides all that, I have to chalk up my experience with very bad A.I. then. Because for me, The Aliens were literally falling into single file lines. You could stealth kill a Marine, and his buddy...who wasn't even 8 feet away, would even bother to do anything, and if they did see the body...only that Marine would be on patrol mode while another who was fairly close would just be standing there. The former marine would eventually end patrolling and act as if his buddy wasn't killed. It was really awful in that regard for me if you don't count everything else that was bad.

my bad :) i forgot i havent played with the predator that much because i dont like it...but that doesnt matter, fair point

Hi guys,

I managed to buy a copy of the game last night. Its great!

Graphics are superb. The game blends in well with the workd of J Cameron. The aliens themselves are very good.

Ive still to try MP. but the customs section is great fun!!

Great to hear some positive feedback!  cant wait for tuesday

I have MY PC Collectors Edition Ready too

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ak-prn1%2F859255_413939228690299_256175532_o.jpg&hash=fa0f9e3f8145ac3f156344b735189daa60e1aad9)

Quote from: BUGZ on Feb 10, 2013, 02:50:26 PM
Hi guys,

I managed to buy a copy of the game last night. Its great!

Graphics are superb. The game blends in well with the workd of J Cameron. The aliens themselves are very good.

Ive still to try MP. but the customs section is great fun!!

Game on man, what country you live in? I went to Walmart yesterday on the off chance they might have it but no dice. Guess I gotta wait till Tuesday like everyone else.

Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Kalawaki, I know you're a faith-driven apologist and all, but do try to understand what people are saying. The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it. Like everything else, it's a novelty item. Try playing one of the AvP games where it's part of the HUD, and you'll see that it's of more persistent use (also having to do with the Aliens trying to stalk instead of rush).

Pausing to look at the motion tracker is no different now then it was when it was smaller and at the bottom of your screen. I played both AvP, AvP2, and AvP2010. I never looked at my tracker while shooting something, and always watched it when not shooting something.

The fact is, having it a part of your HUD would be useful maybe on 2 occasions tops, because you wouldn't need to use it anyway. The problem isn't the Tracker mechanic, it's the abundancy of enemies. And without an abundance of enemies the game might feel dull and stagnated. In this game you would be too busy aiming and shooting regardless of the position of the tracker. By the logic you are giving me having a Tracker at all seems useless in this game.

QuoteWell, aside from the backtracking, AvP 2010 was actually a competently designed and programmed game in the basic respects.

You're cute. I like you.

UK based dude. Loving the game. I wont post spoilers, but they have kept to proper aliens tradition!

Loving the box set!! Ive pre ordered it!

Bri

Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 06:54:55 AM
-Snip.-

As somebody who has gone along for the full arc of this game's hype, even at times playing the optimist, I can honestly and objectively say that this is certainly not the sequel to Aliens we 'always wanted'.

Granted, as you said, you haven't played it yet. However, I think it is very possible to watch a game and see many of the issues cropping up. It's very linear, and it doesn't make good use of what it has in the license. (The tracker has been used far better in previous games, imho.)

It seems like such a sad end to this game's development.  So much potential, wasted.

What are Al Matthews, Michael Biehn, and Mark Rolston's voice acting like?

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 03:03:41 PM
The fact is, having it a part of your HUD would be useful maybe on 2 occasions tops, because you wouldn't need to use it anyway. The problem isn't the Tracker mechanic, it's the abundancy of enemies. And without an abundance of enemies the game might feel dull and stagnated. In this game you would be too busy aiming and shooting regardless of the position of the tracker. By the logic you are giving me having a Tracker at all seems useless in this game.

I too find the motion tacker useless in SP because of the poor AI.
MP though is a whole different story.

Quote from: Prime113 on Feb 08, 2013, 01:32:42 PMI think SEGA might be part of the problem. 343 won't be making it, as they are a halo only company I believe, and Bungie wants to do more original stuff. I say give it to Ubisoft. Ubisoft would be the shit!

I was thinking Rocksteady Studios should do it.  They turned their Batman license into gold with the Arkham games and I can only imagine what they'd do with Aliens.

Two reviews that gave the game a 7 each

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws)

http://setinstonegaming.tumblr.com/post/42753536156/danxios-review-of-aliens-colonial-marines (http://setinstonegaming.tumblr.com/post/42753536156/danxios-review-of-aliens-colonial-marines)

I will take a 7 over the 5.5-6 that AVP 2010 was.

I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.

Quote from: PFC Hudson on Feb 10, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.

He said the MP wasn't great but I wonder if he had trouble finding games since the game is not out in mass numbers yet?

I will take a 7 over what I read from people here as well. You would think the game is a 3-5 with some of these reviews. I am hoping IGN trolls the haters and give it an 8. They somehow gave AVP 2010 a 7.

The main concern I have is not really over quality but of the theme/context the game has,

are the combat situations more akin to the first dead space where you can go a whole level with a couple of encounters and have it be tense as f**k or more like dead space 2/3 where the only real difference is more enemies and go for an action game


I know the media suggests the latter but it is hard to make trailers out of the situation where it's one alien


I honestly would prefer a worse quality tense experience rather than a well executed action experience, for a load of reasons mainly because theres loads of solid action games and because then the only pull is for the license when other games are better at the same gameplay I was just wondering how the balance was, as most people are commenting on the quality rather than the whether than what the preference was gameplay wise was and what we got.

Quote from: MrBrokenTusks. on Feb 10, 2013, 10:15:39 PM
The main concern I have is not really over quality but of the theme/context the game has,

are the combat situations more akin to the first dead space where you can go a whole level with a couple of encounters and have it be tense as f**k or more like dead space 2/3 where the only real difference is more enemies and go for an action game


I know the media suggests the latter but it is hard to make trailers out of the situation where it's one alien


I honestly would prefer a worse quality tense experience rather than a well executed action experience, for a load of reasons mainly because theres loads of solid action games and because then the only pull is for the license when other games are better at the same gameplay I was just wondering how the balance was, as most people are commenting on the quality rather than the whether than what the preference was gameplay wise was and what we got.

It's a straight up action shooter. Page three of this thread I have a post dissecting someones playthrough of the campaign, over 250 kills in the first 5 missions. They throw Aliens at you like cheap Russian cannon fodder during the WW2 COD games.

Quote from: Kalawaki on Feb 10, 2013, 03:03:41 PM

Quote from: Space Sweeper on Feb 10, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Kalawaki, I know you're a faith-driven apologist and all, but do try to understand what people are saying. The motion tracker adds nothing to the experience because the gameplay seldom requires it. Like everything else, it's a novelty item. Try playing one of the AvP games where it's part of the HUD, and you'll see that it's of more persistent use (also having to do with the Aliens trying to stalk instead of rush).

Pausing to look at the motion tracker is no different now then it was when it was smaller and at the bottom of your screen. I played both AvP, AvP2, and AvP2010. I never looked at my tracker while shooting something, and always watched it when not shooting something.

The fact is, having it a part of your HUD would be useful maybe on 2 occasions tops, because you wouldn't need to use it anyway. The problem isn't the Tracker mechanic, it's the abundancy of enemies. And without an abundance of enemies the game might feel dull and stagnated. In this game you would be too busy aiming and shooting regardless of the position of the tracker. By the logic you are giving me having a Tracker at all seems useless in this game.

Quote

Agreed u barley use the tracker in SP but in MP is where u will actually use it more. And if a marine has to pull it out to find out where u r, it will make is so much better.

Reception on other less... invested websites seems to be much, much worse than here. Bad, but not unforeseen.

I can safely say that I'm not surprised. All you need to do is watch all the footage they released. It makes you think they missed the whole point of Aliens and watched Starship Troopers instead. Ineffectual acid blood, only one xeno type actually behaves like an Alien, rare usage of ceilings and walls... yikes. Finding a way to make the Aliens generic space zombies must have been rather difficult to do on accident. They downplayed the very things that made our Aliens unique to shoot at and would have helped the game stand out.

Even the Kick Ass trailer seemed completely oblivious to the film's theme; tough macho spess mahrenes getting raped by random space gecko/termites. Instead, we play marines Master Chief would be jealous of.

The unfortunate implications of such boring adversaries is that it opens the door for the worst sin in any shooter - making the act of shooting things boring.

Dead Space is another action title that features (mostly) dumb zombies, but it makes the act of shooting them interesting and how you shoot them drastically changes how the enemies interact with the player. Some of the guns behave completely differently and you have jedi gloves and stuff to have fun with, versus this title's large armory of guns that spit bullets slightly differently. These Aliens are just moving targets, barring the Lurkers during the times where they don't bug out. In fact, I would argue the game would be much more fun to play if every Xeno type behaved like the Lurker, even if they had different abilities.

Rebellion's own poor Xenos, whom could be kited eternally with liberal application of the sprint button, would try and dodge your shots. They would occasionally jump up on a wall or a ceiling, promptly getting lost with crap pathing, but at least they tried. There was more to melee than a single godlike elbow. Their acid could kill you. What happened here?

Compare and contrast the most common enemy, the Cameralien, with Halo's useless Grunt. Grunts can charge up their pistols to remove the hero's armor instantly. They can lob grenades that kill the hero instantly. Cameraliens can... absorb your ammo?

Killing the poor things in and of itself lacks... oomph. They fall over like cardboard, when they explode, all that happens is that their model vanishes in the blink of an eye and is replaced with a small sprite of green goo, not a single F given. Just like in AvP2. How long ago was that? Acid? What's that? They don't crawl towards you when you blow off their legs. They don't come at you with one arm. The WY guys are more dangerous and take more bullets to down (how come they don't explode into red sprites when shot by the same guns?). What the hell doesn't even begin to cover it.

As I read in another website:

"Right, right. Somebody said "colonial marines" Gearbox thought they said "Space Marines" and signed up!"

The campaign itself is of questionable design, though it adheres to the modern day "cinematic experience" nonsense. Cutscenes and loading and waiting for your stupid and immortal NPCs to open the door for you... All to move forward in a straight line for a few meters and whack a few moles before another long cutscene/dialogue begins and my guys have to open another door for me. Not only does this minimize player interaction but it means that the story has to hold up since it's such a focus. It... it doesn't. They don't even really address all the Super Aliens that are running around.

I'm also rather amazed the game has some long stretches where all you do is shoot guys with baseball caps that for some reason drop marine helmets (?). Does not bode well for a game with Aliens in the title. I also like how your marine can duct tape 5 different marine helmets together and wear them as full armor, that's ingenuity!

The multiplayer and customization basically seem like the game's one shot to do something right, though I'm not very convinced. Much of the cool stuff about playing an Alien has been removed. You no longer are the Alien. You remote control one whose arse blocks your view. You are constantly reminded of the sub par animations for the Xenos. If there's one thing I cannot critique about Rebellion's effort is that at least the Xenos animated well. The crawling animation is light years better than hopping like a bunny in menace and creepy factor. Insects and lizards crawl. They are disgusting and creepy. Ponies and bunnies? They are cute. I love them. Do you want me to cuddle the Xenos, Gearbox? Should I love them and feed them biscuits?

Although a rather personal observation of mine, I find that the multi doesn't really look very enticing to me. I prefer a title that makes me feel like I'm improving at the game whenever I play it again. I can aim better, I can move and dodge better, etc. But in this game, everything's so slow, the Aliens die so easily, and you don't even have to learn how to navigate as an Alien anymore so it's that there's just no room to really improve anything.

"Remember to climb on the ceiling and camp corners". Alien mastery.

"Elbow smash, stick with the herd and instagib slow xenos with your guns". Marine mastery.

Just doesn't call out to me, is all. It can't really compare to all the cool stuff you can pull off as a skulk in NS, for example. That kept me going back. Not grinding to remove artificial gameplay limitations. What difference does it make to me if I instagib a Xeno with a grenade or with a shotgun?

All that said, eating people from behind always gives some jollies, so if the multi looks to be up your alley, I would suggest waiting for a Steam sale and picking up the game for 15 Ameribucks when you can. Perhaps with time people will find there's some good to it.

The game does have its solid points: the music is really good and the Cowadooty perks look like they could keep you trying different builds. There is, indeed, ONE nice segment in the game that's well made. You know which one it is.

Spoiler

Boilers in sewers. Though the solution to the problem is far too simple and being just told what to do removes most of the tension.

[close]

But... that's about it.

To be quite frank, this game is best watched on the tube, to curb your curiosity, and then left forgotten.

If you ask me, and this is completely unscientific and little more than fan wank, the biggest problem with the game is that it's just marine pr0n. "Guys, look at these guns! They're from Aliens!" Ok? So... how does that make the game good? "THE MARINES WERE AWESOME THOSE ONE LINERS!!" Really, why do I care about Hick's shotgun? Do I seriously care if I ever see Hudson again? I want to have fun shooting some Aliens. Make the Aliens fun to shoot. Get these WY guys out of here, I want to shoot Xenos, not shoot the same guys I shoot in every other game. I don't care about all the guns in the technical manual, bro, I just want to shoot the Aliens from the movie, with the guns from the movie and for it to keep me engaged and entertained for awhile. Focus on the interactions between the marines and the Aliens. What would make shooting the Aliens more fun than shooting the same zombies we've shot in a billion other games? What makes them unique? How does their presence affect the shooting mechanics? Embrace these elements, don't just make them zerglings. A shooter based on Aliens is a game where you shoot Aliens. Think about that statement. It's an incredibly obvious thing to say, isn't it? So why does it feel like shooting the Aliens, not just aliens, the Aliens, took a back seat? Was Aliens really about cool marines with ridiculous sounding guns making one liners? Is a generic termite shooter really authentic to the movie?

The game is really about the evils of heresy space corporations versus the heroic noble badass space marines that are so manly even the women run balls to the wind. Also there are some Aliens running around and stuff while the people shoot each other.

If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.

Edit: Oh my. I think I'll take back what what I said about multiplayer. No dedicated servers coupled with no effective host migration is a death sentence. The same mistakes AvP3 made. You don't even get XP when the host dcs it seems. So it's like AvP only worse, since XP actually matters in this game.

Quote from: DB on Feb 10, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.

Not everyone has a good gaming desktop.

For being such a popular topic of discussion on this forum, it seems like no one is going to even give A:CM a chance even. Were we all so embittered by AVP 2010 that we can't give anyone another chance? And it does always seem that no matter how much people complain about a game they continue to buy it and play it for a long time. I have a friend who's like this with COD and it is so strange to me. Overall, the point I want to make is I think we should at least give the game our own personal walkthrough before we say yay or nay.

What do you guys think?

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 10:13:05 PM

Quote from: PFC Hudson on Feb 10, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.

He said the MP wasn't great but I wonder if he had trouble finding games since the game is not out in mass numbers yet?

I will take a 7 over what I read from people here as well. You would think the game is a 3-5 with some of these reviews. I am hoping IGN trolls the haters and give it an 8. They somehow gave AVP 2010 a 7.

Agreed. In the end, if it gets a 7 or above from IGN, I'll be very happy. I think that most of the hate that the game is getting right now is from people who had their expectations WAY too high. I'm not saying that the game doesn't have problems but some people are calling it the worst game ever made. I find that VERY hard to believe.

Oh, and I should probably mention that I'm not one of those people that hated AVP2010 with a passion. I enjoyed the marine campaign (though I wished it had coop...which I now get!), found the Alien campaign to be tolerable, and felt like the Pred campaign was ok. MP was horrendous at first on the PC because it was just beta but once they finished it, I found it be enjoyable enough but unfortunately the MP community had mostly died by then.

One way or another, I'm still excited to play ACM despite the negativity of some. Again, if it's a 7 or above, I'll find the experience to be well worth my $60.

Im on chapter 7. So far Im enjoying the game. The shooting mechanic feels satisfying. The graphics for consoles isnt bad at all. Aliens attack you now instead of running in circles like avp2010. Different enemy types makes the game feel fresh instead of shootin the same target over and over again. Lots and lots of easter eggs for Aliens fans. Music is freaking awesome. Lurkers are by far the best enemies. Its just fun trying to figure out where theyre gonna come from. Story isnt half as bad as people say it is. Uprgading your weapons is awesome. The atmosphere is among the best Ive seen in this generation of consoles.

The negatives.

Glitches: I shot an Alien in chapter 4 and he sky rocketed to lv-223

Voice acting: some of them are just meh (bishop is great though)

Facehuggers arent that threatening all you have to do is constantly press square to push them off your face.

8.5/10 for me

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
I've been reading some reviews where they say the MP is a weaker element because of server problems. They don't seem to get that they weren't supposed to be playing right now, so the server is probably not up to snuff at the moment. MP elements to a game don't seem like they're reviewed properly because the critics get the games early and the MP stuff isn't supposed to be up and at em until everyone has a chance to play.

What do you guys think?

I would think/hope the MP will be 100% when the game is actually released. But I am not a tech person so I can't really comment.

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
I've been reading some reviews where they say the MP is a weaker element because of server problems. They don't seem to get that they weren't supposed to be playing right now

I totally forgot that actually, thanks for bringing that last part up. It's not technically out till Tuesday, it was released early by some. I'm no server tech but what you say seems to make sense.

What they're playing on is most likely a beta server, or a server that's not fully open yet. That's the disadvantage of breaking the street date. That and it's probably hard to find a whole lot of people to play with right now.

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
Two reviews that gave the game a 7 each

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws)

Holy shit man.. this guy spoiled the whole game with his vid  >:(

Quote from: DB on Feb 10, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.

I know man, but the NS2 is so badly optimized that I rarely go above 40fps. I run every other game like FC3, BF3, Crysis, Metro 2033 in DX10, AvP '10 in DX11 etc. maxed out but I can't run NS2 in steady fps no matter on what settings I try. I really want to play it more but I simply can't do it right now. I cant wait to see some optimization and I mean heavy optimization by the devs.

Quote from: WinterActual on Feb 11, 2013, 06:19:42 AM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 09:33:36 PM
Two reviews that gave the game a 7 each

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGGP4NtRVbo#ws)

Holy shit man.. this guy spoiled the whole game with his vid  >:(

Quote from: DB on Feb 10, 2013, 11:07:59 PM
If you want multiplayer just play Natural Selection. Still the best Aliens game ever. Call of Aliens: In Space! is just not that good.

I know man, but the NS2 is so badly optimized that I rarely go above 40fps. I run every other game like FC3, BF3, Crysis, Metro 2033 in DX10, AvP '10 in DX11 etc. maxed out but I can't run NS2 in steady fps no matter on what settings I try. I really want to play it more but I simply can't do it right now. I cant wait to see some optimization and I mean heavy optimization by the devs.

My bad. There were a few spoilers but it wasn't stuff I was not expecting already from trailers and what not. There was something with the boiler alien that he f**king ruined though. Oh well.

Was that a boiler? I've seen a video review where he says that there's another type of xeno that walks around the areas but the footage he showed wasn't a boiler. Interesting....

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 05:39:07 AM
I've been reading some reviews where they say the MP is a weaker element because of server problems. They don't seem to get that they weren't supposed to be playing right now, so the server is probably not up to snuff at the moment. MP elements to a game don't seem like they're reviewed properly because the critics get the games early and the MP stuff isn't supposed to be up and at em until everyone has a chance to play.

What do you guys think?

Actually no.
Since there are no dedicated servers to host the MP matches this logic doesn't apply.
The matches are hosted by the peers as with almost every other game on the consoles. I haven't heard anything about the PC version having dedicated servers.
I played on the PS3 a couple of matches and didn't run into problems, apart from the matchmaking taking a long time and some collision detection issues.

Quote from: Vezner on Feb 11, 2013, 03:20:43 AM

Quote from: PRI. HUDSON on Feb 10, 2013, 10:13:05 PM

Quote from: PFC Hudson on Feb 10, 2013, 10:01:17 PM
I will also take that 7 over all the negativity I've been reading. I also find it interesting that the reviewer liked the campaign over the multi-player, most people have thought the opposite.

He said the MP wasn't great but I wonder if he had trouble finding games since the game is not out in mass numbers yet?

I will take a 7 over what I read from people here as well. You would think the game is a 3-5 with some of these reviews. I am hoping IGN trolls the haters and give it an 8. They somehow gave AVP 2010 a 7.

Agreed. In the end, if it gets a 7 or above from IGN, I'll be very happy. I think that most of the hate that the game is getting right now is from people who had their expectations WAY too high. I'm not saying that the game doesn't have problems but some people are calling it the worst game ever made. I find that VERY hard to believe.

Oh, and I should probably mention that I'm not one of those people that hated AVP2010 with a passion. I enjoyed the marine campaign (though I wished it had coop...which I now get!), found the Alien campaign to be tolerable, and felt like the Pred campaign was ok. MP was horrendous at first on the PC because it was just beta but once they finished it, I found it be enjoyable enough but unfortunately the MP community had mostly died by then.

One way or another, I'm still excited to play ACM despite the negativity of some. Again, if it's a 7 or above, I'll find the experience to be well worth my $60.

Ign uk gave avp2010 8.5. Must have been because rebelion are british? It won't beat that... i think ign will give it a 6 which is 'okay' by there system i just read this giving it a 7.9 http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/02/review-aliens-colonial-marines/ (http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/02/review-aliens-colonial-marines/) dispite canning it for the whole review!?! Must have been an aliens fan!

Here's a youtube parody!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

It's really funny..and sad at the same time!

Its sad because its true.

Hysterical, for all the wrong reasons!

"My god"
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi49.tinypic.com%2Fvkv0p.jpg&hash=edbef8da4b883b907dea68a4817ebb87ce7b5af1)

(They sure liked using that phrase)

"My god!"

"Not ur god wink wink"

Its a fun game. And having fun is why started gaming. Loving all the easter eggs.

Updated my post on page 3 up to video part 19, and wow, the cons list is getting massive.

Edit: Any news on an upcoming AVP:G official review?

I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!

Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Feb 11, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!

How so?

Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Feb 11, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!

You obviously only own this one game.

Im from the UK and i manage to get this game a day early from the small computer shop for my Xbox 360. I only played like the first few levels and here is what i think, my option will no doubt change as i get more in to the game. BTW the was already a 3mb update when i installed ACM.

The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era... I dont judge any game for it's graphics, its all about atmosphere and playability for me. So far the atmosphere in the game has been ok but nothing out of this world... i would say it's defo better then AVP2010 atmosphere, you do sort of feel like you are in the Aliens Universe, but i aint had any shock or jump moments yet.

My biggest problem with the graphics is sometimes its hard to make out whats going on, when your in a room with loads of computers, and wall lights, and alien goo why you are getting attacked from aliens/humans can be a little sensory overload. I would say this is due to the graphics looking a little generic making everything look a liitle bland. But saying that, i have been in some rooms and corridors were the graphics look good. I am looking forward to seeing the other levels like Hadleys Hope and Derelict to see how they look.

The AI is like Random, sometimes the Aliens act how the real Cameron's Aliens should act. But then you may see one or two act all retarded and buggy (The same go's for the human AI) The Ragdoll on both human and the aliens can be buggy sometimes... Like after you have killed a Xeno sometimes the ragdoll effect can have them spaz out on the floor like limbs shaking and moving unrealistically. Like i shot one Alien that was wall climbing, and its dead body was still hanging from the wall from the tip of its tail, it looked fake and buggy as hell. Anyhow i have to say i do like how the Aliens move and look in this game when the AI gets it right. The Aliens can attack you from differnt directions and also little waves of alien attacks happen that i like.

So fair the game has been average/fun for me, but i have not been blown away by anything yet. I still have a good few levels to go so hopefully my option may or may not change for the better. O

Quote from: QUAGMIRE83 on Feb 11, 2013, 04:57:09 PM
I just got mine today and all I can say is, BEST GAME EVER MADE!

you're.... You're being sarcastic right?

Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...

Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM

Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...

Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.

Which games exactly?

Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 05:58:41 PM

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM

Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...

Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.

Which games exactly?

Call of Duty. F.e.a.r 2 had way better player models imo

Oh I thought you were saying that A:CM had better graphics than most modern franchises out right now.

F.E.A.R 2 had decent graphics but where it was very good was all the FX.
Explosion, Particles, distortions were all great.
The Grenade from the pulse rifle in A:CM reminds me a lot the one in AVP2.
AVP2010 performed better on FX.

I don't think textures are an issue, when I'm speaking about graphics what I like to see are the lightning, the FX and the world design. Unfortunately A:CM seems to have none of this and it is twice sad when you know that it took a lot of elements from ALIENS.
Every corridor seems pretty generic, room that are not from the film feels like random design that all average / bad FPS has.

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM

Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...

Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.

Think again. I thought the same too but just now I got into the Derelict and OMG the graphics are even worse.
I can't believe they had the balls to release this as it is.
Didn't anybody in the GBX studio ever raised his hand and said "guys we can't release that looking like that"!
For God's sake it really looks as if the whole game was an internal side project made just for fun.
Damn, I thought it couldn't get any worse!

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...and FEAR 2 had much better graphics than this (console).
This game literally has no effects. The fire is 2D, the explosions are taken straight from Duke NukeM 3D (not Forever).
The enemies have no hitboxes other than the head and the torso and when they die, sometimes they just disappear and reappear as if their textures are instantly replaced from living to dead.
You can't have more last gen than this.
Damn, I'm mad now!

I think that we wouldn't be so pissed at GBX if they were a bit more modest in their press statements. Let the f**king fans decide on their own terms if it's cannon material or not. Doesn't matter if its just another marketing gig or well intentional fanboysm, it's not rational thinking in my opinion.   

Oh and the gunfights with the mercs will break your balls.
They redefine the phrase "cheap death"!

A part of me is really hoping that tomorrow Pitchford will make a press conference and say "YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED. We gave you some pre-alpha concept copies to have a few laughs. Here's the real game!"

Quote from: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 06:06:15 PM

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 05:34:38 PM

Quote from: Kimo on Feb 11, 2013, 05:16:30 PM


The Graphics are like Doom3/Quake4/Fear1&2 era...

Puts my graphic worries to rest. Those may not be Frostbite 2 graphics but they're still better then other big franchised games.

Think again. I thought the same too but just now I got into the Derelict and OMG the graphics are even worse.
I can't believe they had the balls to release this as it is.
Didn't anybody in the GBX studio ever raised his hand and said "guys we can't release that looking like that"!
For God's sake it really looks as if the whole game was an internal side project made just for fun.
Damn, I thought it couldn't get any worse!

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...and FEAR 2 had much better graphics than this (console).
This game literally has no effects. The fire is 2D, the explosions are taken straight from Duke NukeM 3D (not Forever).
The enemies have no hitboxes other than the head and the torso and when they die, sometimes they just disappear and reappear as if their textures are instantly replaced from living to dead.
You can't have more last gen than this.
Damn, I'm mad now!

:-[ :-[ :-[

I finished the game, thanks to a friend who got an early copy. Here is my short non-spoiler review.

Gameplay

The gameplay is standard just like any other fps game The difference of course is the setting, which takes place in the Alien universe that many have come to love and adore. The shoot mechanics is decent and I compare it to the Call of Duty games, which means that the recoil is almost non-existent. It it awesome to hear the sound effects of the pulse rifle, which is the same as Aliens. The shotguns are useless and enemies soak up at least 3 to 4 shells. Don't get me wrong, they come in handy in a tight spot, but I always find myself going back to the pulse rifle. You do fight humans in this game, who are the Weyland-Yutani's private military company, or PMC. The human AI is not the greatest and they act like bots sometimes. There was an instance where I ran past the enemy while he was shouting "intruders! Hit the alarm" and proceed to just walk down the aisle. The Xenomorph AI is good and they do pose a threat because of how fast they travel. Gearbox did a good job programming the Xenomorphs to use the darkness and shadows.

Story

The story is canon and a true sequel to Aliens. They worked closely with 20th Century Fox and even talked to Ridley Scott (dunno why it wasn't James Cameron, but maybe he was busy...). To keep it short, the story revolves around another Colonial Marines detachment that was sent to investigate the distress signal (sent out in Aliens) 14 weeks after the events of Aliens. The game offers a cool level of fan service such as exploring the whole ship (Sulaco) since we only saw bits and pieces of it in the movie. You do get to wander around in Hadley's Hope and other set pieces in the movie. What I found to be really cool is that they got back actors to reprise their roles in the game such as Michael Biehn (Corporal Hicks), Lance Henriksen (android Bishop), etc. I know that a lot of fans are pissed that the game makes the Xenomorphs weak. You have to understand that it's a GAME. Gearbox tried their best to make the game as authentic as the movie as possible. For example, you do lose life overtime due to the Xenomorph's acid when you kill it and get too close. YES, the guns do take down the Xenomorphs faster than the movies. If they made the game authentic, then the game would be difficult for the avenge gamer.

Visuals

The game was almost in development hell that caused delays and pushbacks. The game was originally suppose to come out on the PS2, but it was scrapped and pushed to be released on next generation consoles. The visuals are quite... poor. I played on the Xbox 360 and there were instances of screen tearing and fps drops. There was a moment in the game where there is a light in a dark room and it was pixelated. The Xenomorph animation and look is really good and even the Marines movements. If the game didn't bump into many problems it did and was released like they wanted, it could have passed for its time. I am not a big graphics whore, but there are parts of the game that just bugged me.

Conclusion

Overall, if you are a big fan of the series you will enjoy the game for what it is. If you are looking for a fps game to play, then skip it until the price lowers. The game is not worth the full retail price of $60 in my opinion. To be fair, it worth around the $30 range. I have not tried the multiplayer, but if that is your thing, then go for it. I like Gearbox, but they are hit or miss with their games. I really wish they made another Brothers in Arms game =/

Quote from: Le Celticant on Feb 11, 2013, 06:05:59 PM

AVP2010 performed better on FX.

AvP '10 is made with DX10 and high res in mind after all. Its still a "test your dx10/11 gpu" kind of game.

Quote from: teras on Feb 11, 2013, 06:34:37 PM
Oh and the gunfights with the mercs will break your balls.
They redefine the phrase "cheap death"!

A part of me is really hoping that tomorrow Pitchford will make a press conference and say "YOU'VE BEEN PUNKED. We gave you some pre-alpha concept copies to have a few laughs. Here's the real game!"

That would be so cool! The ultimate tease in video game history.
It's brutal when reality kicks in and shits on your dreams.
Ah well...

It seems like the average so far from the early reviews that were eventually pulled is about a 6-7 out of 10. I'd probably say no lower than a 7.0 for the most part from people like IGN.

Sad to see that almost every single issue people pointed out during development is *gasp* right there in the game!

There's an army of people on here who knew that the initial lack of focus on the Aliens themselves was going to kill this game, I'm just really glad to see some reviewers pointing that out. It seems that if GBX had actually concentrated on making a more creative or original experience, which ironically falls in line with making the Aliens more accurate to their film counterparts, a lot of these bugs we've seen mentioned (no pun intended) could be tolerated better.

You can't make a proper Aliens game without understanding the source material and having the creativity and courage to actually apply it.

Would've taken geniune balls to make the real Colonial Marines experience, balls that, for Gearbox, have sadly never dropped since their first viewing of Aliens back in '86.

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
It seems like the average so far from the early reviews that were eventually pulled is about a 6-7 out of 10. I'd probably say no lower than a 7.0 for the most part from people like IGN.

By my maths, it works out as a 5.7 out of 10 average.

Hello everybody. Just registered for these forums. Seems that most of the people in here are true fans to the AvP universe, or what ever you call it. I for myself have waited this game for long time, talking like..since the day when it was supposed to come for PS2. I´m more of an alien fan than predator fan. I do like them both but there is something that I like in the alien more.

Yes I have played many alien games and most likely all the AvP games. So lets start. I recently installed AvP 2000 (on steam 3$ the original doesn´t work on todays windows PCs.) Also I have played the AvP 2 and its addon Primal Hunt. Oh let´s not forget PS2 Extinction. Also I have just recently watched all the 4 Alien movies on Bluray with the extras on.

Let´s see..AvP 2000 has the marine setting right..or at least I´m afraid to let the aliens close to me, because of the acid and how fast they can kill me in melee. Loved the skirmish mode in this game. Also the aliens fall pretty easy but my god they are quick in this game.

AvP2 I remember the time when I played this game online. My god the best game EVER! When online that is. The SP story was kinda meh. Just like the first AvP. The aliens still felt a threat when they came in swarms. They toned their speed quite a bit from AvP. Challenging game when played on harder difficulty. Thou it did not give me that "oh my god so many I´m going to die" feeling at least on normal. On the other hand, when I played it online. Chose Marines and it was humans vs aliens (no predator) it was a goddamn slaughter house! In the MP it truly felt like an aliens movie. The aliens coming from multiple directions, needed to coordinate what we were doing. I remember that sometimes when we as humans weren´t playing as a group..well it wasn´t pretty. When we did play as a group we had a chance, a good one too. Miss those times..

And we get to the AvP(3). It had some good some bad. On consoles the MP had a hiccups because no dedicated servers. The patches came too late, few players and so on. But when I did get to play I did enjoy it. Not as much as AvP2 but yeah. It was fun. Campaings were ok but still i do find it stupid that I could pistol whip alien to death as human.  ::) Now that was stupid. The A.I was little better when compared to the originals. Atleast the aliens tried to use the ceilings and walls in the singleplayer. But when facing the alien and moving backwards, it just followed like a dog, waiting to be putdown.

Mostly the aliens have been coming straight at me in all the AvP games. They don´t try to circle around or nothing, just zerg rush.
So my point being..to what do some people compare this game to? I don´t say that I´m all knowing aliens fan but I do have read the comics too. So aliens are like bees or ants. There are workers, soldiers, queen, defenders etc. So the point with this yabbering is this, aliens don´t have inviduality (mostly) they work for the best for the hive and queen. So yes, they do attack, attack and attack straight forward, relying on their speed, strength and numbers. BUT when they notice that the resistance is too strong they do backup, search for an weak point. That is my main consern with this game, GB promised that the aliens should be more like the aliens in Aliens. They do think at least on some level. But if it just this head on attacking..well I´m little disappointed. But I´m still going to buy the game, mostlikely I will enjoy it, playing the campaing on Coop and then hitting the MP like there´s no tomorrow! Hoping that it would be like the AvP 2 MP experience.

Also I do find it money grapping greedy mans plot to make some DLC that should come with the game. Mostlikely the content is on the disc already. I´m talking about the ummm what was it? Survivor? Damn forgot the name, well it´s humans vs A.I aliens mode.
That was on AvP, AvP2 and AvP(3) no extra cash needed. Also the newest AvP had only two maps for that mode, I hope that there would be at least 6-8 different maps (more I hope) for different playmodes. Like I don´t know..16 maps? With DLC 24 or so. Otherwise the MP will wither away because at least on PC you could make your own maps..if I remember correctly since I don´t have the AvP3 on PC  and been quite a while when I played AvP 2 online.

In the end, I hope that at least me myself will enjoy the game, the MP and SP alike. Also I did give the AvP 3 7/10 in my own opinion so I hope that this one gets at least the same or hopefully, even better number in my books.

Sorry for my english. Keep on the good stuff, I like what I have read on these forums  :)

Welcome to AVP:G. I'm afraid you'll be somewhat disappointed because no, the multiplayer has very little in common with AVP2. My advice would be wait two days while Ikarop gathers up all the reviews, and make an informed decision on purchasing the game.

lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

Quote from: N3ONPORCUPINE on Feb 11, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

This made my day.

Quote from: N3ONPORCUPINE on Feb 11, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

Sums it up pretty nicely.

Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Quote from: N3ONPORCUPINE on Feb 11, 2013, 08:00:52 PM
lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dPF8jpItCs#ws)

I almost pissed myself.

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

As someone that works at Gamestop I can say I know how it is from both sides. On one side there's the customer that of course wants their money back for a shitty game and then there's the employee that get's ranked on preorders which is just f**king retarded. They could have been at 0 preorders and one cancel can put them at -1 reserves which you get bitched at about by corporate. The reserve system is really really shitty.

Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 11, 2013, 08:27:03 PM

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

As someone that works at Gamestop I can say I know how it is from both sides. On one side there's the customer that of course wants their money back for a shitty game and then there's the employee that get's ranked on preorders which is just f**king retarded. They could have been at 0 preorders and one cancel can put them at -1 reserves which you get bitched at about by corporate. The reserve system is really really shitty.

That is shitty

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM

Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)

LOL

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM

Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)

Haha wow that is bad, at least I'm knowledgeable about things. I also wouldn't straight out lie, I tell whether or not a game is worth it or not.

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM

Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)

Guess he really needed those pre-orders...

Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 11, 2013, 08:36:25 PM

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:33:33 PM

Quote from: Bjørn Half-hand on Feb 11, 2013, 08:30:29 PM

Quote from: chrisr232007 on Feb 11, 2013, 08:22:43 PM
Just cancelled my preorder at gamestop, the guys there tried to change my mind which they said all the reviews were positive and lowest score was a 8......I just looked at them and laugh then said give me my dam money.

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

What's even more funny one of them try to tell me that Ridley Scott wrote the story  ::)

Guess he really needed those pre-orders...

Guess so

Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.
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Maybe they were talking about the Game Informer score perhaps? Although, it's a big maybe.

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:32:10 PM


Lying bastards, more like lowest 5 and the highest 7.

Maybe they were talking about the Game Informer score perhaps? Although, it's a big maybe.
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Idk but I found it insulting that they sat there lieing to my face on facts about this game with me being a fan of Aliens over 20yrs plus been waithing on this game for many years as well. 

I totally get that man. I like the Gamestop in my area is usually pretty honest with their opinions, but I've been hearing about the chain itself having customer service issues.

I have to play devil's advocate when it comes to xeno AI. When you think about it, not only is the creature's design one of a kind but also it's abilities. Imagine how difficult it is to animate and program such a beast. Even in the movies everyone from production talks how challenging it was to make the creature not look like a guy in a rubber suit. I can't think of any other game that offers such a versatile enemy which can crawl on any surface while retaining speed and ferociousness. Hopefully this game will be patched soon, in order for us to have a bug and glitch free experience in both MP and SP alike.             

I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.

So many games have launch issues. Black Ops 2 was the most recent one for me. Multiplayer was a mess right after release, but a few patches in and it played a lot better. They were quick about it, too, with less than a week before the patch was released iirc.

I hope they fix a lot of these glaring issues that seem like they should've been caught and fixed during development.

I think the reason they have such a problem with bugs and glitches in modern gaming these days is the same reason a lot of mediocre films are released: the company executive's give them a very specific release date and they have to finish by then. Aliens CM was delayed a lot but It still seems like game companies are always in a rush without bringing the best possible product to the table.

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.

That was the case with BF3 when it came out. It was a shit storm of glitches and bugs. I had the feeling of not playing the final product but a alpha version. EA, well knowing released an unfinished game because they were in a race with Activision's COD.
It was a slap in the face of every BF fan out there. 

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:28:25 PM

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.

That was the case with BF3 when it came out. It was a shit storm of glitches and bugs. I had the feeling of not playing the final product but a alpha version of it. EA, well knowing released an unfinished game because they were in a race with Activision's COD.
It was a slap in the face of every BF fan out there.

But look at how good BF3 turned out to be after the glitches where patched. I'm not saying we should have to put up with incomplete games that need patching, but BF3 is a prime example of a game with its fair share of problems that can be fixed via patching. One of the reasons why I'm not taking the negative reviews of ACM to heart

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:28:25 PM

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 09:54:58 PM
I agree with ya on the patch thing. Most games start with bugs and they're usually resolved after about 2 patches or so, sometimes 1 if it's like COD or something. For the most part I've trusted GB so far mostly thanks to Borderlands 2 being a much better game than the first game or other games they've produced so I guess we'll just see.

That was the case with BF3 when it came out. It was a shit storm of glitches and bugs. I had the feeling of not playing the final product but a alpha version. EA, well knowing released an unfinished game because they were in a race with Activision's COD.
It was a slap in the face of every BF fan out there.

I recall the bugs in BF3 on Xbox when I got it. The glitch that deletes campaign data STILL exists. That's why I have owned the game forever and have yet to beat it. f**king irks the shit out of me.

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
But look at how good BF3 turned out to be after the glitches where patched. I'm not saying we should have to put up with incomplete games that need patching, but BF3 is a prime example of a game with its fair share of problems that can be fixed via patching. One of the reasons why I'm not taking the negative reviews of ACM to heart

Good point but keep in mind that BF is a huge title among gamers while ACM isn't that mainstream.

That campaign glitch in BF3 is the only reason I dont have the achievement for beating it hardcore. Damn game wiped out my progress right before the second to last mission. Haven't touched campaign since.

Quote from: Gren_86 on Feb 11, 2013, 10:36:09 PM

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
But look at how good BF3 turned out to be after the glitches where patched. I'm not saying we should have to put up with incomplete games that need patching, but BF3 is a prime example of a game with its fair share of problems that can be fixed via patching. One of the reasons why I'm not taking the negative reviews of ACM to heart

Good point but keep in mind that BF is a huge title among gamers while ACM isn't that mainstream.

I guess I didn't take that into account, but at the same time a developer cant just release a product with out fixing atleast most of its major issues, especially if their the whole DLC season

Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 11, 2013, 10:39:35 PM
I guess I didn't take that into account, but at the same time a developer cant just release a product with out fixing atleast most of its major issues, especially if their the whole DLC season

Of course they can, cut their losses and run. It looks like the majority of reviews may very well slam the game, sales could be poor, and it costs thousands of dollars to patch on PS3 and XBOX. Do one courtesy patch and run for the hills dropping it as a failed investment.

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Funnily enough, I replayed the AVP10 campaign to cleanse myself from the horror of watching this games campaign. It's better animated, better told, better graphically and has better gameplay (excepting the melee combo system, that's still f**king retarded) than A:CM and you can pick it up for a fraction of the price nowadays.

The campaigns main issues from AVP10 are still prevalent in A:CM: too many human/synthetic enemies and not having enough/any marines with you (though in A:CM, i think it would be better not having them with you they are so bad) though it doesn't have all of A:CM's additional problems.

Today, I'm glad I own AVP10, and that's not something I ever thought i'd f**king say. Ever.

It's downright depressing.

I'm with you about AVP 2010. Sure, it had its problems and MP was a mess, but overall I really enjoyed the game a lot. I've been checking out the SP of CM and the story does seem like it's everywhere. You seem to be going from here to there for almost no reason. I still haven't noticed too many of the bugs or glitches people have been talking about except in MP where the hit detection sometimes is off.

Updated Pre-Review:
Story: 6 (weak and almost puts AVP on a pedestal)
Graphics: 7 (slightly outdated, but nothing too distracting)
Gameplay: 8 (gunplay is nice although the AI has random difficulty and MP is a blast)
Overall: 7/10

Quote from: Elicas on Feb 11, 2013, 10:47:03 PM
It's downright depressing.

It sure is, considering the possibility of having two promising games being abandoned by their fans :'(
That's why it's crucial for the MP segment to make up for all the glitches in the campaign before we get a hot fix for both SP and MP asap!

Last part of Leeroys walkthrough has his review, skip the first 4 minutes for spoilers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kQPK8pRrY#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kQPK8pRrY#ws)

4:10 is his review.

AI - 4.5/10
Gameplay - 7/10

He didn't give values for the other points he touched on. Graphics, Scripting and Story was all described as 'shit' or 'awful' No overall score given for the game, other than 'disappointing' or 'shitty'.

"2010 AVP is a much more refined experience than this one"

He put the games value at $15

It's weird he would separate the AI from the gameplay since they're usually in the same category. Also, giving the gameplay a 7 then calling the game overall shitty is strange too. Isn't the main part of the game the ahem...gameplay? I do have my own negatives about the game, but this is a strange little review to me but hey, opinion is an opinion and everyone in the gaming world is worth a listen, for the most part.

Sadly, my only consolation about the state of Colonial Marines are the pages and pages of utterly hilarious negative reviews and comments. I'm going to be laughing for the next 48 hours, I'm sure. :laugh:

Here's a particularly belly-tickling snippit from the GBX forums:

Quote* Weyland enemies where baseball caps into battle. And shades. This is the first game I have ever played featuring Space Douche Enemies. Well done, Gear Box, well done.

Spoiler

QuoteSpace Douche Enemies.

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Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 12, 2013, 12:04:13 AM
It's weird he would separate the AI from the gameplay since they're usually in the same category. Also, giving the gameplay a 7 then calling the game overall shitty is strange too. Isn't the main part of the game the ahem...gameplay? I do have my own negatives about the game, but this is a strange little review to me but hey, opinion is an opinion and everyone in the gaming world is worth a listen, for the most part.

I'm also confused by his verdict  ???

Giving the gameplay a 7/10 then saying the game is shit to me is like the people who say they hate playing Call of Duty because of noobs, but they continue to play every single night.

P.S. 'Space Douche Enemy' is great.

Sounds like a sycophant over on the Gearbox forums.

"Almost everything about this game is god awful. Pulse rifle sounds great, though. Game of the year 10/10."

Lol. It's so true. I hope I don't become that kind of fan one day.

Haha I love going on Gearbox forums. Whenever someone brings up any flaw or negative comment people all flag it and report it.....It's f**king ridiculous. No wonder Gearbox wasn't able to take constructive criticism with the crazy ass nazi mods.

Spent a few hours on it today.

It is as bad as I had feared.

I'm really very disappointed with Gearbox, I don't even know where to begin. The game is a mess; an unfinished mess.

The graphics are last-gen- i'm talking Doom 3 for PC, or even the original Xbox. Some of the textures are unacceptable for this gen, for example, the computer monitors and screens simply have a blurred texture on top to make it look like there's something on screen. This texture is so low-res and blurred, think of the monitor screens from Goldeneye on the N64 and you'll get an idea. Horrible. The character models are horrid- expressionless puppets. Animation is crap, could have done with some motion-capture. Lip-synching and cinematics in general are poor. Environments are slightly better rendered than the characters but only from a distance- up close you see how simple everything looks. What annoyed me was a simple thing like water which looks so bad; at one point I was walking through a sewer with a high water level and the water was simply a flat cover, with no water physics. It looked, literally, as if all the characters were standing halfway through solid ground. Horrible. And what kind of age are we in, when you can't shoot out the lights in a game? Gearbox put details in like being able to smash screens, and put dents in walls- but when I tried to shoot out the lights in a room- it wouldn't work. Lights still remain.

Story seems to be non-existent so far (i'm on chapter 3). It's just you and a few crew members re-visiting the locales from Aliens and running away from the Xenos. Doesn't seem any point to anything so far.

Gameplay is very poor. The enemies are just no fun to kill, and the AI is woeful. Hit-points are horrid, on many occasions I was in cover trying to shoot enemies with my laser sight directly on them-  but the shots were going nowhere near them. Same as when I was playing as the Spitter in multiplayer- i was trying to spit on the players through a hole in the wall...and the projectiles kept getting blocked by an invisible walls. So many times that the character models were through each other's, or they were floating on the ground, or some other random crappy glitch.

And the game is full of so many glitches, I just can't believe it.

Xenos randomly appear and do the dumbest things, not helped at all considering the game is so glitchy. And as I said before, the AI is horrid. At so many points did an enemy just stand around not doing anything, or froze, or just simply dissapeared.  Physics in general are crap, a few times I saw a Xeno jump and it shot directly up into the air like Superman in that Man of Steel teaser, and did a spinning cartwheel. A few times my gun simply disappeared from my hands so I had nothing to shoot with! The Xenos simply run at you in the dumbest-looking way possible- and drop like puppets after a few hits. Doesn't matter where you hit them either, they die in the same manner, which is crap. Remember in AVP 2010 when if you sever their legs, they still crawl at you? Doesn't happen here. This is also a wasted opportunity for multiplayer, too. Which is actually awful.

Music doesn't do anything either..the OST is actually pretty bad..just random ques from Aliens (and Alien, which for me doesn't fit in with this movie because not even James Horner used Goldsmith's tunes for the movie). Music doesn't add to the experience. Weapon sound effects sound fine, but the pulse rifle sound gets very repetitive, they should have used more variety from the movie's rather than the same 3 seconds which loops.

Multiplayer is forgettable. Again, riddled with gameplay issues and glitches. Players will randomly freeze, Xenos are difficult to control (they start doing random things, eg they keep changing direction when when you're on walls which does not help at all in the middle of a fight), the balance seems to be all over the place. I had a bit of fun with "Escape" but otherwise it can't even play on the basic level as Left4Dead did. It's just really poor clone. And no facehuggers in multiplayer makes me think they really missed a trick. Also eggs- you'll find a ton of closed Xeno eggs around the single player campaign and multiplayer levels- at first i just destroyed them all thinking they held live facehuggers, as they should..but then I found out there was no point wasting my ammo, because the eggs actually don't do anything. No facehuggers in them. Theyr'e just there as set decoration. What's the freaking point of having them then if they serve no purpose? I had so many ideas of how cool it would be to be a Xeno in multiplayer, but none of them were realised- it just settles down to you running straight up to someone and slashing like an idiot till they die. No strategy. Sucks.

Honestly speaking, I think the marine campaign in AVP 2010 was better. And I actually hated that game- but that felt more finished, and at least the enemies had some intelligence and the Aliens themselves had some degree of difficulty to kill. I remember acid damage being harmful and the carcasses staying on the floor- none of that happens here. AVP2010 now actually deserves more credit, especially from me. It was definitely more fun, and at leas they tried to make something playable.

Verdict:

I wish Gearbox spent more time on gameplay, than trying to recreate the sets full of pointless little details for fans. It's cool seeing the sets of course, but..that's about it. The game is not the ultimate Aliens experience we all wanted, or the sequel. And the amount of time spent on this, and then this is the result..it's just unacceptable. It's what happens when you let fans take over before people capable of making a game.

Boot up AVP1/2 or (if you must) AVP2010 for the best Aliens games. And keep on wishing that we actually do get a proper Aliens game in the future. Because A:CM is simply an extremely underwhelming, and below average FPS full of problems, cashing in on the Aliens franchise again :(

4/10

Sorry for my English it's not my first language.

Quote from: saintbenzie on Feb 12, 2013, 01:15:19 AM
Haha I love going on Gearbox forums. Whenever someone brings up any flaw or negative comment people all flag it and report it.....It's f**king ridiculous. No wonder Gearbox wasn't able to take constructive criticism with the crazy ass nazi mods.

No need to call them that. Please love or hate the game, not the fellow fans.

Been playing the PC version for just over an hour now, and I'm pretty impressed.

Graphics - While not the best, do the job.
Sound - Weapon's sound powerful and sound just like in the movie  ;D  Xeno's sound good.
Story - Seem's ok but like I said, I've only played about an hour so far.
Gameplay - Solid like most good shooters really, The Motion Tracker is cool and done really well.
Collectors Edition - Power Loader Statue is really cool.

Playing on Hardened difficulty for 1st run, and I have to say all those people saying the Xeno's just stand around or any video's on the net must be playing on easy or normal, unless the PC version has better AI then the console version ? because they move fast, use the walls and ceilings, they do a good amount of damage on hardened. (Been killed pretty fast a few times lol)

Also I died a few times from the acid blood when I shot a Xeno at point blank with the shotgun, so acid does damage you for anyone interested. I know it was the acid that killed me as it goes to a 3rd person view when you die and the marine holds his face and you can see steam coming off him where its burning him  ;D

Any bad points ? Well I'm not fussed on the weapon upgrades, seems like it's there just because Call of Duty has it, but if you don't like it you don't have to use it. Graphics are a bit rough around the edges. Marine AI is a little off but they do shoot and kill Xeno's, it's not like Call of Duty where they don't kill anything and you have to do all the work. Xeno's don't take to much damage to kill but I can live with that as they can kill you fast aswell, at least they can on Hardened on PC version anyway.

So while it may not be perfect or the best game ever, its not a bad game at all really.

Quote from: Jonesy23 on Feb 11, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
I'm with you about AVP 2010. Sure, it had its problems and MP was a mess, but overall I really enjoyed the game a lot. I've been checking out the SP of CM and the story does seem like it's everywhere. You seem to be going from here to there for almost no reason. I still haven't noticed too many of the bugs or glitches people have been talking about except in MP where the hit detection sometimes is off.

Updated Pre-Review:
Story: 6 (weak and almost puts AVP on a pedestal)
Graphics: 7 (slightly outdated, but nothing too distracting)
Gameplay: 8 (gunplay is nice although the AI has random difficulty and MP is a blast)
Overall: 7/10

pre-review? first time iv heard that

I guess I can coin the phrase then? lol

haha think you can. will be interesting to see if your opinion changes once you have played it for yourself. i think the MP is going to make it or break it for me. it looks like a lot of fun

im gonna ace hug ya

I will be posting my review tonight. I like to think I am not overly bias but not overly harsh either. Stay posted!

I'll be sure to let you know as soon as I get a hold of it.

For those interested, some of issues reported earlier don't seem to be present on the officially released PC version.

• Doors don't take long to open.
• No AI glitches that I have noticed so far.
• NPC collision works as expected.
• Hit boxes seem fine overall.

(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcloud-2.steampowered.com%2Fugc%2F578980607050080574%2F9334FADE78DD0B19BE2F9F80FD246DE5CE78C785%2F&hash=53e4e49f1b994c86959ef9bb448ea54eec046274)

Remember they talked about emulating the 16mm film stock that Cameron used, so we'd get the option to have a grainy, gritty screen just like the movie? Is that an option in the game, or has it slipped?

Wow, let me prepare a giant middle finger if console players have to deal with most of the crap. :-\ But I guess it's good news as it can and hopefully will be patched quickly...

Why all of this madness if the game was developed for consoles from the beginning?

I don't think PC users are out of the woods. A lot of people that have started playing the PC version have at least confirmed horrible AI and some really bad texture quality in some areas.

Yeah Ikarop, the collision is working fine and thats why I died 2 times so far  :laugh: Every god damn time when I want to use the under barrel gl and O'Neil moves infront of me in the exact time when the grenade is traveling in the barrel so we are dead anyway. Its inevitable. Besides that the game is... its.. its not that bad. Not bad at all. So far at least. I am surprised actually. Or maybe the game is bad but my expectations were soooooo low that I like it now  :o

Seems that once again, console players get the "surprise buttsex" when buying this game. Glitches, bugs, all kinds of bad crap. Then hoping for a patch that will be roughly..2Gb or so. Well I personally hope that when the fix comes the game will be as good as on PC. Yes the graphics may not improve but with patching maybe the textures will be more stable.
The reason why I bought this for PS3 is splitscreen with my fiancee and friends on the internet. Also I have 5.1 surround system for playing with PS3. On PC it´s only headphones (thou they are good but it´s for my ears only). So yeah, I want to hear the oomph in the bass when explosions happen LOUD! My neighbour must love me :D

Thought I would share my first console (PS3) impressions.

Over the past few days I've been getting pretty scared that the consoles actually were going to get raped with the version we were getting. While, the PC screenshots look leagues better than what I'm seeing onscreen, I think the art design and the lighting more than give a pleasing environment to play in. I'm really impressed overall. I can tell it's an older engine obviously, but they did a good job making due. While not a graphics whore, it was definitely a concern.

A.I. wise, I haven't run into any of the problems others are listing, besides the occasional Xeno in the background staying still for a moment. The rest, on hardened at least, are quickly in your face, and surprisingly, climbing and jumping onto every surface to try and throw you off. Also, while I have noticed a few run past my partner, he is not nearly as dumb as I was lead to believe. I caught up to him at one point,  just barely behind him,  and he had cleared a room of five or six Aliens by himself.

I think the guns make you actually control your fire, and are satisfying in a way that most FPSs miss the mark on. So far, as an Alien fan and as FPS fan, I feel like the game is so much better than AVP 2010, which I also played for quite a bit. I'm so relieved, and can't wait for the patches I'm sure are coming to make it even more polished.

Hope that puts a few more people at ease somewhat.

Yeah I am playing the PC version on "Hardened" mode and I have encountered some of the worst AI I have ever seen in a video game, Xenomorphs just stopping dead in their tracks just waiting to be killed, either that or running all over the place as if they are lost.

Quote from: Valaquen on Feb 12, 2013, 06:36:55 AM
Remember they talked about emulating the 16mm film stock that Cameron used, so we'd get the option to have a grainy, gritty screen just like the movie? Is that an option in the game, or has it slipped?

Not in the PS3 version  :(

Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*

I hope they do a remake of this game with the AVP 2010 engine  :o

First impressions. Played it for about 2 hours. Started it and continuing to play on badass difficulty.

The graphics could be better and ive seen some goofiness like the players arm vanish during the umbilical section as well as xenos glitching through the floor pointing the wrong direction. Dont really care about it though because the mood is good and its got style, as well as being accurate to the movie.The game is waaaay dark so far though. Not such a bad thing from a suspense point of view but its so dark i cant see enemies, cooridoors, my teamates or anything else half the time just blurs and flickers. My solution is to just wait for the melee icon to appear and start mashing buttons in most cases. It works and I live lol

Ran into an issue early on when I picked up Hicks shotgn and promptly died. Unless i missed a prompt, I had no idea i still had other weapons in my inventory and spent about a half hour trudging through a section with two shotguns. In most games this isnt a problem but in Colonial Marines the shotgun is awful. Mostly its because there is no spread whatsoever and the gun doesnt point at the same direction it is firing. I actually had to get a red dot scope for a shotgun in order to use it...

I dont mind so much that I have no idea how much ammo I have though I thought they were putting in a button to look at the ammo display for the guns but I dont see it in the controls. Whats aggrivating me is that I have no idea if/how many grenades I have or if/how much body armor I have or even if it is being effective, sometimes I die in one hit and sometimes I die in 5. I kinda like it but its still a little frustrating. I did have to remap my F and G keys because i would try to launch a grenade and hit the wrong key... just staring down xenos with a nade in my hand.

I was impressed with the ai in places actually, the npc teamate just blocks my aim but the enemies are sometimes smart. The first lurker I encountered actually ran past me and I thought he went through the door but he went up the wall, dropped down behind me and got me from behind as I went looking. Could have been a random chance but I liked how the encounter went down.

The only thing that has got me bent so far is that after the first area the game has suddenly turned into every generic fps ever except my guns suck and and grenades explode on me so fast that Ive died in mid sprint being pegged by them. There doesnt seem to be any delay, if someone throws a grenade on badass difficulty its GG.

I spent my last half hour resetting my selected weapons after a fresh death (oh man thats annoying) and working my way through the first area full of combine troopers just to get blasted through cover or beaned with a grenade while waiting for an enemy to quit hiding behind crap. This is something youd expect 4/5 of the way through the game just to slow you down but I just got started!

Ive noticed that the human enemies are pretty smart and do manage to take good positions. I like that, the only issue I have is theres no answer to them other than to get lucky spamming the SHARP gun at red dots and hope nobody throws a grenade.

So far (which isnt much of the game, or at normal difficulty) its not that bad. I cant see squat and as soon as the enemies from FEAR showed up I wanted to kick my monitor in because... ITS AN ALIENS GAME... but overall id give it a 6/10 with potential.

Also: I have no idea if health regens on badass or not but when the screen stops being red it doesnt seem like I gained any life back, next shot always kills me.

Might edit/update later whenever I get past the part im stuck at.

Well I said 40%, which would be 55%-60% in todays inflated scores.

Looks like very few people had to inflate their score for this, it's that bad. We can discount the couple of places that gave it an 8 or a 9 (places like Forbes) or who prefaced their reviews with "I've only ever seen Prometheus out of the series before" as knowing f**k all about gaming/Aliens.

3-7 across the board, it stinks. f**king fanwank bullshit that'll go down as a worse rape of the source material then AVP or AVP:R.

Told you so. ;).

Edit: Metacritic score as of 11:00 AM GMT.

PC - 47 critic - 5.1 User.
PS3 - 50 critic - 4.4 User.
XBOX - 50 critic - 4.8 User.
WiiU - Unreleased.

Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!

I've played through three levels. The graphics are alright if unremarkable maxed out on PC but the integration of animated sequences (pressing buttons, doors, cut scenes) is jarring to say the least. I like that care has been taken to recreate a the old sets and in realising up the new, but they're wasted on the samey generic action over and over again. Overall I would say that 4 or 5 out of 10 seems about right but I have yet to finish the campaign or give the multiplayer a real go.

Its all over the net now the game blows :(

The game's release taught me extremely valuable life lesson - to appreciate the value of life, what we have and that we take so many things for granted. Now I infinitesimally appreciate what Rebellion did in 2010.

AvP '10 = GOTY MATERIAL!

I think SEGA will probably cancel the Wii-U version.

Goog God, I'm overcome with nothing but negativity for this game. Every review I'm reading, be it professional or amature reviewers is negative. I am starting too wish I had waited and got this game on the cheap the same way I did with AVP2010.

I'll pick up my pre-ordered copy today but I probably won't have a chance to play it till tommorow. I'm already depressed.

Was playing AVP 2010 Single Player Survivour, and boy, the aliens actually....hmmm you know, act like aliens.

Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!

If you liked AVP 2010 and you can get it for the PC, then go ahead.
There is enjoyment to get out of this and I think that it is better than AVP 2010 (although others disagree).
Beware though that you have to keep your expectations low and just play it for mindless fun. No canon, no AAA material. Just an "unknown" mediocre uneven game that in some parts reminds you of Aliens.

Although I personally would have prefered not to give GBX and Sega more profit by purchasing, because honestly they don't deserve it. GBX is now officially on my boycott list, right next to Bethesda!

Just been playing some Campaign. Its decent,gameplay is solid but I have had a few glitches and odditys now and then,bit of clipping issues,some parts it made me feel like im playing a BETA version. Like everyone has said Graphics could be alot better,like they just used low res textures on everything...It is Sega/Gearbox after all. A.I is abit dumb lol and I find some of the Marines actions to be abit corn ball too,like at the start why the hell would you pop a grenade in the docking bridge is beyond me. but its fun for the most part and thats whats important.

Going to jump into the multiplayer tomorrow.

Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*

On a comical note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws)

Even the AI can't deal with the wallwalk. Its THAT broken :\

This is what they have to show for 6 years...Honestly they could have used the money they put into promotion and events to upgrade the engine and AI code and de-bugging.

Its hard to say AVP 2010 is better,but it is...

Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:42:19 PM

Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*

On a comical note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws)

:laugh: :laugh:

Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:42:19 PM

Quote from: RagingDragon on Feb 12, 2013, 09:15:57 AM
Okay, so let me just repeat the obvious and say that these graphics are almost comical. :laugh: No, shit, they are comical. I mean, I'm on Xbox and they're sub Indie-game status at times.. But once you start playing the game, you suddenly stop giving a f**k about them lol. At least I did, because the gameplay was just fun.

I'm only playing multiplayer, though.. so I'm sure there are a lot of things I'm not getting with the campaign..

It kind of feels like Aliens, but serious 13-year-old-boy status Aliens. :laugh: It's Durrrr, but damn I still enjoy it. The multiplayer combines addictive, fast, and variable gameplay with lots of customization (at least I think, at this point?) and I think (f**king read: HOOOPE) it will keep people playing.

Sorry not much of a review, I'm just really enjoying the aspect of the game I was most looking forward to. A bit giddy, after all of the doom. Even if the campaign pisses me off, I'm going to have some fun with this MP before she goes' *plays sad harmonica*

On a comical note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8SzBhjqaQ#ws)

Oh god, I squirted my drink through my nose after seeing that, so random!
All those in favour of a sticky thread with all these funny glitches, say 'Aye'.

I lack the words to express how horribly bad and disappointing this game is... It really is heartbreaking to go from the greatness that is Alien and Aliens... To this...

Quote from: Omega1 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:15:40 PM
I lack the words to express how horribly bad and disappointing this game is... It really is heartbreaking to go from the greatness that is Alien and Aliens... To this...

I honestly don't know if I sould spend some bucks of my salary on this game. Should I wait and see if this ugly duckling births a beautiful Xenomorph? Or just save my money?

So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.

Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:21:50 PM

Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!

If you liked AVP 2010 and you can get it for the PC, then go ahead.
There is enjoyment to get out of this and I think that it is better than AVP 2010 (although others disagree).
Beware though that you have to keep your expectations low and just play it for mindless fun. No canon, no AAA material. Just an "unknown" mediocre uneven game that in some parts reminds you of Aliens.

Although I personally would have prefered not to give GBX and Sega more profit by purchasing, because honestly they don't deserve it. GBX is now officially on my boycott list, right next to Bethesda!

Thank you very much for your reply. With that in mind, I think I´m getting the game. Once I finish the SP campaign, I´ll post my conclusions here. I must warn you, when it comes to aliens Im easy to please. That being said, something tells me this game is going to put my patience to the test...

Once again, thanks. Enjoy the game! (if you can)

My opinion based on PC version singleplayer badass difficulty. Haven´t played for long but, I do understand why people are so disappointed. I´m disappointed too. I get this feeling that I´m playing beta game (happens quite often nowadays) so my opinion currenlty on SP about 2h game time. 6/10.

Graphics are outdated, not the worst but I did hope to see at least black ops level graphics.

Sound world is awesome and also I noted that I didn´t hear the aliens move, just like in the Aliens movie. One actually sneaked behind me and I had a jump scare moment there. :D

A.I well I would dare to say it´s basic. Yes in my 2h game time I did see that some of the aliens tried to flank me, humans took cover and popped some grenades at me, own side marines little lacking but hey, I´m used to worse thanks to Cod and Battlefield. They did manage to kill some aliens so they are not completely useless. But because GB guys hyped the "they can come from the vents" etc. I did ummm...what´s the word..well lets say I waited for better A.I. I mean that it´s funny when the lurker goes behind table to hide like ashamed animal xD I could clearly see where it was whole time.

Control of the game is good, better than AvP(3) and modifying weapons do affect somewhat to the aiming speed and mobility.

Animations are lacking, yes I did manage to get some limbs of from the enemies but why did it die? AvP series aliens would crawl at me if lost limb. Also the acid blood effect is lame. Thou I have died because of the acid so yes, it´s hazardous at least on the hardest difficulty.

Oh yes, there will be bugs...like bugs bugs net the alien bugs. Clipping, pathing errors, bad textures, invisible walls etc.

So I do believe that when I got this for my PS3 there will be patch by then (hopefully) in a week or so. Hotfix I think.
Also because I´m going to play the campaign coop I bet it will affect my rating with +1

In my books that means, game is playable, it´s not perfect, if you like this type of game you might consider buying it (even more so if the MP is good), suggested price 30-45€ (something like 50$) or wait till price drops if you are not a fan of the series or this type of games.

Currently in my own humble opinion , better than AvP (just a little) also ,if patched properly and not abandoned it could be even better.

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Quote from: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.

Go for the badass. Because of you are good at FPS games I see no point playing any easier level.

Quote from: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.

Playing through co-op on ultimate badass with 1 friend at the moment. Even though the Aliens are physically a bit tougher, the poor AI makes them pretty easy to kill. The main difficulty comes from the wey-yu mercs who have deadly accuracy and can headshot you with ease. The heavily armoured ones can take entire magazines to the chest without even flinching too.  I still wouldn't consider it overly frustrating though.

Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:45:44 PM

Quote from: teras on Feb 12, 2013, 12:21:50 PM

Quote from: Cabo Grake69 on Feb 12, 2013, 11:22:23 AM
Hi everyone.

I´ve been reading reviews for at least 2 hours, and still I dont know what Im gonna do. One thing is sure, it shouldnt be this difficult for an alien fan to decide whether or not buying the game.

I´ve been following these forums for years (I didnt  post because my english is sooo rusty). Today I cant help but ask you: Is the game as bad as it sounds? In other words, do you think alien fans (who actually liked AVP 2010) should purchase the game??? I find hard to believe the game is such a let down! I know you take alien franchise seriously, so please let me know your opinion.

Im awared this is not a fan review but I promise to write one ASAP (If you convince me to buy the game). Thanks for you replies!!!

If you liked AVP 2010 and you can get it for the PC, then go ahead.
There is enjoyment to get out of this and I think that it is better than AVP 2010 (although others disagree).
Beware though that you have to keep your expectations low and just play it for mindless fun. No canon, no AAA material. Just an "unknown" mediocre uneven game that in some parts reminds you of Aliens.

Although I personally would have prefered not to give GBX and Sega more profit by purchasing, because honestly they don't deserve it. GBX is now officially on my boycott list, right next to Bethesda!

Thank you very much for your reply. With that in mind, I think I´m getting the game. Once I finish the SP campaign, I´ll post my conclusions here. I must warn you, when it comes to aliens Im easy to please. That being said, something tells me this game is going to put my patience to the test...

Once again, thanks. Enjoy the game! (if you can)

You're welcome  :)

Don't worry, I can enjoy the game. It's just that GBX basically lied to us. They showed entirely different things during development and they gave us something completely different. I think this is the definition of a scam.

Thank you for this thread.  I read it last Friday and immediatly cancelled my pre-order.  You saved me $60.

I dunno if everyone has a busted version of the game but im playing on the PC and its looks beautiful plays great and the multiplayer is addicting as hell. Shit so far my only complaint is some of the voice acting... oh and you want the Enemies to be more difficult... Badass mode bitches!

Never would have dreamed to get it on a console as that seems to be FAR worse!

I cancelled my pre-order for completely different reasons, though I'm kinda glad i did now...I never thought I find myself saying that about anything Alien related and I tend not to rely on reviews/other peoples views. But for the sake of saving £40 on something that's no where near the quality of say...Halo 4 for example, id rather keep that £40. Saying that...I'm still dying to get my hands on this and have a go, im just not willing to part with my money so easily anymore, so I hope they lower the price real soon...like £20 maybe? because from what im hearing, quality wise, that's what its roughly worth.

can you play in coop with split screen like gears of war?

Quote from: Porkus Maximus on Feb 12, 2013, 02:02:09 PM

Quote from: Samus007 on Feb 12, 2013, 01:38:14 PM
So for those that have played it, should I just plan on playing thru it on the hardest difficulty setting, or is that "frustrating hard"? I plan on playing CoOp only with my brother, we are both avid FPS players.

Playing through co-op on ultimate badass with 1 friend at the moment. Even though the Aliens are physically a bit tougher, the poor AI makes them pretty easy to kill. The main difficulty comes from the wey-yu mercs who have deadly accuracy and can headshot you with ease. The heavily armoured ones can take entire magazines to the chest without even flinching too.  I still wouldn't consider it overly frustrating though.

Thanks!!! And you to Rolle

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Now that the game is released I can finally say that the wait paid off. This is a really enjoyable trainwreck to watch across the internets. 10/10 The best way to play this game is to go out on lots of different websites and read what the residents think of the game. It is glorious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5WwV9YoW_U#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5WwV9YoW_U#ws)

The teleport!  :D

Edit: Beated. :(

QuoteBasically, everything that is wrong with this game could have been overlooked if the aliens were authentic, but they're not. They're retarded as f**k, will storm straight at you and they're weak as f**k too. There's nothing cunning, menacing or dangerous about them.

Also, why do aliens have the same death sound as gnolls in WoW? That's just f**king retarded.

QuoteBy far the shittiest game I've ever had the misfortune of playing. I've played it for five minutes and that was five minutes too long. It's a terrible console port, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Heck, even AVP 2010 had much better graphics, gameplay, atmosphere, and story.

This game is so bad that every gamer deserves to play it at least once when it hits bargain bin prices (which shouldn't be too long) just to see how much of a train wreck this piece of excrement is. Videos alone won't do it justice.

:D

From a site completely unrelated to shooter games or Aliens.

Oh, Lawdy Lord!

I know DB ^ It's awesome :D

For anyone thinking about badass mode, I would definitely say go for it. It doesn't make the slow, sometimes silly Aliens any smarter, but they're a bit tougher and do more damage. The mercs aren't bad, either, but their accuracy can be unbelievable at times.

Still, I've had far worse times with CoD on Veteran, far far far worse and more irritating than this.

I agree wholeheartedly with Rolle's review back there in that the AI is just simple. It's not terrible, but it has plenty of flaws. You may not even notice any on your playthrough, but odds are you sure will.

What a dog turd of a game it is......

Would you care to go into the specifics of your experience? What platform were you on?

Is this fun?? I know the overall of opinion of this game so far is poor, fair enough, but I never expected a 9 or 10's but it can still be fun and I never really expected or wanted any of the other aspects like graphics or story to be amazing, but is it fun? I am about to start it up, as the single player is the main focus of anger I plan to play it 2player and was wondering how many have experienced how it compares to a solo experience.

game over man, game over.

Wait, is

Spoiler

live Hicks canon?

[close]

That's crazy.

What is the Prometheus connection? The derelict?

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
Wait, is

Spoiler

live Hicks canon?

[close]

That's crazy.

According to Gearbox. Yep.

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:09:43 PM
What is the Prometheus connection? The derelict?

The only connection is the

Spoiler

floating pups found in the derelict, and a two-line dialogue exchange when you enter the pilot's chamber.

[close]

Anyone on steam? I want to get some coop in!

Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 12, 2013, 07:20:35 PM
Anyone on steam? I want to get some coop in!

I'm waiting on my copy to arrive in the mail. It's 11:30 here, they usually deliver by 2 or so. I'd love to join you though!  :D

Spent a few more hours on it.

The campaign is horrible and a waste of time. This is not a good sequel, nor is it worthy. The story was pointless, Hicks was tacked on and it has one of the most anti-climatic endings i've ever witnessed. I finished the game in about 5 hours with no difficiluty apart from stupid glitches that got in the way.

However after playing on the multiplayer a bit more, it's semi-decent. My friends all have the game now so I had an okay time with a few of the modes, once you get over how dodgy it plays, it plays okay. Apparently I read Gearbox only developed the multiplayer (and let Timegate do the single player campaign) which is probably why it funcitions better. And it's much better being able to fight Aliens who are controlled by actual humans, rather than the crappy non-existent AI.

I've now got the hang of controlling the xenos better, and when you work as a team it's okay. I felt none of the game captured the experience of Cameron's Aliens film, but the multiplayer at least brings a bit of it to the table- the manic rush is almost similar to the tense gunfights of the film. Almost.

However the game overall is still very, very poor. And I am deeply dissapointed in the people who made it. Some of the levels Gearbox showcased last year aren't even in the game (such as the first video walkthrough with the crusher, where the queen comes in and smashes up the powerloader). Isn't this false advertising?

I'm trading the game in tommorow after having it for 2 days. Not worth keeping at all as the multiplayer will get boring very quickly, and I want to be able to get as much money from the trade in price as possible as I know lots of people will be trading it in this week.

A massive dissapointment.

Quote from: Slaine on Feb 12, 2013, 07:29:27 PM
Spent a few more hours on it.

The campaign is horrible and a waste of time. This is not a good sequel, nor is it worthy. The story was pointless, Hicks was tacked on and it has one of the most anti-climatic endings i've ever witnessed. I finished the game in about 5 hours with no difficiluty apart from stupid glitches that got in the way.

However after playing on the multiplayer a bit more, it's semi-decent. My friends all have the game now so I had an okay time with a few of the modes, once you get over how dodgy it plays, it plays okay. Apparently I read Gearbox only developed the multiplayer (and let Timegate do the single player campaign) which is probably why it funcitions better. And it's much better being able to fight Aliens who are controlled by actual humans, rather than the crappy non-existent AI.

I've now got the hang of controlling the xenos better, and when you work as a team it's okay. I felt none of the game captured the experience of Cameron's Aliens film, but the multiplayer at least brings a bit of it to the table- the manic rush is almost similar to the tense gunfights of the film.

However the game overall is still very, very poor. And I am deeply dissapointed in the people who made it. Some of the levels Gearbox showcased last year aren't even in the game (such as the first video walkthrough with the crusher, where the queen comes in and smashes up the powerloader). Isn't this false advertising?

I'm trading the game in tommorow after having it for 2 days. Not worth keeping at all as the multiplayer will get boring very quickly, and I want to be able to get as much money from the trade in price as possible as I know lots of people will be trading it in this week.

A massive dissapointment.

Funny, I'd only heard that Timegate had done the multiplayer, which is the decent part. Like their other multiplayer focussed games like Section 8.

Spoiler

Who the hell was in cryo in Hicks's place?

[close]

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:50:24 PM

Spoiler

Who the hell was in cryo in Hicks's place?

[close]

Spoiler

His reply to that question, and I quote: "That's a longer story."

Really, that's the games canonical explanation.

[close]

Quote from: Elicas on Feb 12, 2013, 07:51:29 PM

Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 12, 2013, 07:50:24 PM

Spoiler

Who the hell was in cryo in Hicks's place?

[close]

Spoiler

His reply to that question, and I quote: "That's a longer story."

Really, that's the games canonical explanation.

[close]

I imagine this may have been explained as a DLC...maybe, but this game is getting such a bashing i cant imagine any DLC being announced, apart from what i already coming.

Genius.

This is a pretty good representation of my thoughts on this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws)

Right now I'm playing the campaign on Ultimate Badass...I'm liking the game, it's no GOTY but I'm enjoying it for what it is...Multiplayer? I wish I could actually COMPLETE at match.

Quote from: RazorSlash on Feb 12, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
This is a pretty good representation of my thoughts on this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws)

Lol JonTron!

Quote from: Sexy Poot on Feb 12, 2013, 09:36:50 PM

Quote from: RazorSlash on Feb 12, 2013, 08:42:07 PM
This is a pretty good representation of my thoughts on this game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijZABYb4x8k#ws)

Lol JonTron!

Another appropriate Jontron reaction gif to this game.

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Quote from: DB on Feb 12, 2013, 04:37:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Tx6e4Ik.gif

I'm sort of impressed that this whole boiler thing has become an actual meme.

So here we are, after spending few hours on the Multiplayer and completed the SP campaign (Soldier) and doing some Coop (Ultimate Badass) here is what I say about this game:

SP
It's a joke but everyone knows it now.
Successor to aliens blablabla, blablabla, AI blabla, animations blablabla graphics blablabla.
The thing as a mapper that strikes me is the total lack of originality in the environment that feels repetitive and pretty generic to every FPS campaign aka COD syndrome.
The only good things that came up were the Sulaco Hanger with the dropship, some segment inside Hadley's Hope with medlab, Command and maybe just the shortest segment ever inside the Derelict.
It's a shame they did not focus on those three parts rather than spreading us among a thousands blank and empty corridor and room that absolutely does not catch the magic of ALIENS.

If there's only one thing that's probably positive to me it's the marine command.
It felt right handled, much better than the toy you have in AVP2010, the super fast godspeed guy in AVP99 and the Doom Like retarded marine you controlled in AVP2.
Well that's pretty much about it on the positive side of the campaign.

Raven felt like a threat when you were actually not fighting it but when you get on the power loader and engage fight I just felt like they could have give us that for the queen (sucks but better than the end they gave us) or simply make a cut scene.
The fight with the crusher was a joke to me. I'm not even sure that he hits me once.
Overall, Human Corp were much deadlier than Aliens.

Also, I'm old school and there are things I used to love in AVP2 like:
-Ladder
-Vents
-Water for swimming. (you could halfway say it's there in A:CM, but nah, How much I would give to have a fight with Aliens underwater knowing I can't use all my weapons because some cannot fire underwater.
-More hackable / torchable things that are not "just" doors and serves a purpose.


MP

-MAP:
What's the point of making an Alien game directly inspired by ALIENS if it is to give us NO MAPS at launch that are from the movie? Gearbox? Is this a joke? How much DLC did you planned to give us something that can pretend to mimic ALIENS? And even if you didn't want to include them, that's a so few amount of map that it get very quickly boring especially when they don't offer much with having mostly wide open environment. Maybe there are a few spot interesting in each but overall it's weak and environment is wrongly balanced.

-Customization:
LAWLZ

-Mechanic:

[1] What's the point to put Alien third person if it is to make it WORSE than any other AVP games ever managed? Even the horrible AVP99 transition between edges didn't felt that bad. I feel like being constantly disorientated and sometimes my character is moving while I'm not even touching the keyboard when performing wallwalk. Joke?

[2] I feel like that most people are going to be pissed off in the coming weeks between Marine campers and Alien Spliter that camps too.

[3] Why are aliens dying when very very low on health but marine doesn't? Does that makes sense to any of you? I'm pretty sure that between Alien & Human regeneration, Alien is far ahead of us. But nah, to gearbox, Aliens are just BUGS and MUST DIE COS IT'S COOL!

[4] The fact you can't remain in a team as you want is annoying. I wish so much I could spend two matches as Alien instead of having to constantly change every 5 minutes (TDM).

[5] Escape was cool at the beginning but it's kinda like Coop campaign. Aliens aren't a real threat even if handled by player thanks to the ultra god armor you have.

[6] Spawn points are kind of glitchy.

[7] Glitch / bugs / problems everywhere in the MP constantly. Sound problem, animation problem, teleport problem, player exploiting game environment already.

-Network:
As many people pointed out, it's horrible.
No dedicated server doesn't make things easy.
No ability to have host migration will bring hate.
No ability to have at least a server list to choose what you want and drop into a game you're seeking rather than using this finder is not good.
No ability to allow the switch of an Host Pissed me out when I dropped into a server with everyone having above 500 per ping.

Rented it from Redbox, please for the love of God. Don't play this game!  :'(

I'm going to second some of your points, Celticant, not that it bloody matters now..

But Escape mode is straight broken until those jackasses fix it. The only 2 maps are full of huge open spaces where your Alien will be cut down again and again. Even when you get close, the marines have so much armor that even when all 4 of you team up and rush at once, you'll still all die 9 times out of 10. I'm serious.

Marines can just backpedal and shotgun or spray with the PR. Grenades do no damage up close, acid does no damage, and Alien health is retarded weak. Sentries are nigh impossible to negotiate, as well.

Why, Gearbox? Why you do this?

I mean, it's fun as the marines (though you win non-stop) but no one's going to be playing it in about 20 minutes. :-\

Sorry if I seem like I'm going back and forth here, this game is just a mess. There are parts I really do enjoy..... bah..

Quote from: Cal427eb on Feb 12, 2013, 10:03:41 PM
Rented it from Redbox, please for the love of God. Don't play this game!  :'(

Especially for those who are only interested in SP and haven't bought the game I can only say...

STAY THE f**k AWAY FROM IT!!!

Already sold mine on ebay.

It's not too bad so far. I haven't played the multiplayer but the game is pretty fun. The game does bring back some good memories of me playing Alien Trilogy over a decade ago. Right now I give it a 6.5/10. The AI seems pretty buggy sometimes and the graphics are alright I guess.

Honestly, maybe it's because I spent the rest of my money on this, so it is exaggerated, but I have this horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach, guilt for buying this, I dunno why as I know I would have probably bought it at somepoint and that its not like I need the money for something else, but damn. I also enjoyed the first mission (all I've played) which makes the guilt even stranger. obviously it's not the best thing in the world but apart from the ai I don't think theres much actively bad about it, (if you wanted and expected a action game rather than a tense action horror game) Maybe it's because I was told not to buy this that the feeling is so strong but I imagine if I hadn't of had that feeling going in I wouldn't be annoyed, I haven't touched the multiplayer yet but if it's better than the single player I will be relieved. Even then I doubt I will stick with it more than a week or two so my advice rent it, I think I might trade it in for £30 and just cut my losses before all I can get is £10 but then Im going to feel even worse for wasting my money, when I could have rented it for £6 quid instead.

EDIT: Anyone in the uk ever use CeX?? there doing a relativley good price for a trade in, but I want to give this game a few more days to let the fan and critical reaction out of my head to give the game a fair chance and was wondering how quickly and often the priced change???

Quote from: shakermakerman on Feb 12, 2013, 10:33:10 PM
Already sold mine on ebay.

Smart move !

I honestly can see the disappointment but the hate HELL NO! I was so sketch about getting this game and honestly if they can fix the wall climbing and boost the AI (all able to in a patch) this game will be awesome!!!! But its at good/great status right now. Met some people online and we've been tearing shit up in the camping and online we wreck havoc. Cant speak for the consoles but PC version is very much satisfying to me!

Oh and everything MAXED out on PC.. Graphics look great! Only some side textures (computer screens, coke cans) that are lose res but again a patch can fix that shit!

I doubt I will sell it anytime soon since Gamestop will likely give you only $30 for it. I think I will likely play the game with other members of the site and friends of mine. It's a shame that the game was pretty lackluster, but I don't think it's as bad as other people make it out to be.

Well i got colonial marines for XBOX 360 about 5 days ago after waiting since the first ps2 announcement in 2002/03.
First thing i noticed was that it looked like an early 2006/7 XBOX 360/ps3 game or a one of those bad early ports from xbox/pc to ps3 remember like the Orange Box. I got it on XBOX because i was hoping like Black ops and Modern warfare it would look a little better than on the PS3. Well its looks pretty bad and i'm hoping for Ps3 owners it dosen't look any worse.

People go on about how bad Call of Duty games look but i think even 2007's modern warfare looks better and the newer ones look far better. When i played co-op with my friend his statement was ' this looks really good for a Super Nintendo game' while being  sarcastic you get the point. Gameplay isn't anything special and when i try to aim the gun i do a melee attack a lot of the time like its to sensitive or something. The cut scenes are a joke and look really dated. While the atmosphere is good at time overall the game feels very dated much like avp2010 when it came out. Its 2013 and i''m playing a game that looks like it belongs in 2006.

When you compare it with other shooters that came out this year like far Cry 3 or most decent shooters that have come out in the last 3-4 years this game just looks old and the gameplay is nothing special. How hard is it for developers to make a good Aliens game a lot of the work has been done for you, you don't have to create a world from scratch or enemies so much of it has been created for you. The sounds and the music has been done for you, so have most of the weapons. This has taken six years and this is the product they put out, not good enough. other developers take two years to create far better fps with better graphics, gameplay and they don't have the advantage of having such a great film to base their game upon. Since Aliens was annouced Gearbox brought out Borderlands 1 and 2, two very good games yet with all the time spent on Aliens this is what is dished out.


As for all those defending it just cause its an Aliens game i think you are in denial. Imagine an aliens game made with the same quality as Halo 4 or Far Cry 3 or one of the other dozens of FPS that are superior to ACM. The game is below average when compared to other FPS i play it cause i love Aliens so much and i hope they will produce something of much better quality in the future. Hopefully i can get some fun out of it in multiplayer with my friends.

UTTERLY DISAPPOINTING.

I've been a fan of Alien and Aliens since before most of you were born; I have been looking forward to "completion" of the James Cameron story for 27 years; this... travesty simply insults those 27 years of waiting.

I played through the campaign on the normal setting in just under 5 hours; hardly a long title, to be sure.

The plot "twists" were 100% predictable and uniformly cheesy.

I turned the graphics up to maximum, and to be honest, they were so poor that I thought I had mistakenly turned them to minimum instead of maximum.

Audio was tolerable; the musical score was good.  Excellent in fact.

The voice acting was piss poor.

SCREW YOU, RANDY PITCHFORD.  I waited 27 years for this PIECE OF SH&T!?!?!?!

I want a refund; seriously.  There was nothing but false advertising about this game; we were led to believe that it would be "canon" to the film and "a true sequel."

BS!

The only thing that could have been done to make it worse would have been to include a crowbar as the most powerful weapon in the game and some panzy in an orange biohazard suit.

The levels were TEDIOUS and visually unappealing.

One the good side, oh, wait, I haven't seen a good side yet...

Christ what a clusterf**k. I still want to play this game and I haven't canceled my pre-order, but... jesus, it's like 'Alien3' all over again.

People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!

I've played the first chunk of the game.

Is it as bad as some people are saying? Well... Sorta.

Lots a glitches abound. AI freezing up. AI scoring cheap one shot kills out of nowhere(The Mercs. The aliens are completely weak sauce.).  Allied AI that consistently seems to shoot at walls, missing the targets entirely. I fell through a floor and died out of nowhere. Several spots where you would think you could jump down, or explore, you can't. Very linear experience over all. I was witness to a warrior getting stuck in the ceiling, and a face hugger getting stuck in the base of an egg.

The eggs near Keyes are props, they don't open. I had a feeling every time people wouldn't bother going near them. Facehuggers seem to pause dramatically before leaping at you, making them easy pickings, and not scary in the slightest.

I'm having some fun, but there are a lot of things that are just broken. It's put me on the fence and has me really questioning the DLC pack. I do want to play Bug Hunt, but i'm not sure if I want to give Gearbox that kind of money.


I'm pausing for now until I can find a PC player to co-Op with.

I'm working my way through the campaign on Ultimate Badass mode, by the way.


I recommend to anyone still on the fence, get it when it goes on sale, or in the bargain bin.

Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!

Just watching walkthroughs posted in Youtube, it is safe to say people have valid complaints. If you look through the complaints, you will see. People complain that in multiplayer, once marines stick together, they always pwn Aliens. Unless Alien outnumber Marines heavily, there is no hope for Xeno.

Quote from: Uncanny Psycho on Feb 13, 2013, 12:56:30 AM
People are being WAYYYYYYYYY to over critical. What the f**k were people expecting the next BIG THING! Its exactly how it was marketed out to be..... People complain to complain. ITS NOT THAT BAD!

Mark my words in a weeks time there will be a patch out for some side textures and AI boost!

In fact, I was expecting "the next big thing."

Isn't that what Randy Forkedtongue at Gearbox was promising?  Wasn't he GUARANTEEING Aliens fans that this was "a true sequel" to one of the greatest Sci-Fi movies of all times???

I am complaining because I spent $200.00 on 4 copies of the game so I could have a LAN party with some of my friends who are still overseas in the Army - I retired recently - and the game is so terrible, I don't want to play it again.

THE GAME I S THAT BAD!  To use a phrase from an audiophile, this game is nothing more than boom and sizzle, only it lacks the boom and sizzle.

PISS POOR PRODUCT.

I'm actually really having a lot of fun with this game. It's a bad game, not 4.5/10 bad but still around 60-70%, but I'm having a lot of fun. MP is a really good time and makes up for the low points of campaign. Speaking of which, there were even a few moments in campaign I enjoyed.

I guess I'm a minority but this buttcheek game is a good time.

I'm in the middle of campaign right now, I'll do a review from as fair of a standpoint as I can later or tomorrow.
Really having fun with it though.

Quote from: Enenra on Feb 13, 2013, 02:24:47 AM
I'm actually really having a lot of fun with this game. It's a bad game, not 4.5/10 bad but still around 60-70%, but I'm having a lot of fun. MP is a really good time and makes up for the low points of campaign. Speaking of which, there were even a few moments in campaign I enjoyed.

I guess I'm a minority but this buttcheek game is a good time.

I'm having fun with it too, and there are plenty of players. Nice to see, even if just for a time. I hope the mp hooks dem assholes :laugh: in a desperate and sick twist of fate, I would now beg the COD kids to stick around, even if they start quick-scoping my Xenomorph with a pimped out gold battle rifle that says "boss" on the back.

I don't care, just want to dick with the mp for a bit and try out the bug hunt, then we can just let it die like Ripley 7 :-\ it's unnatural, not meant to live...

Played it enjoyed it.

I do have have a little less faith with the story (Hicks should of stayed dead but thats the Alien 3 fan in me talking) Cruz was a bit of bossy jerk

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His sacrifice was probably the best thing I like about him and his care for other marines

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The customizations were great could have gone into a little bit more detail though. The doors do take a while to open but that will be fixed in a patch. The music in this game was spot on and with even a few nods to a certain Alien prequel

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When I first saw the glowy red ball fly around the Origin I freaked out and shot it :laugh: as the dialogue between Winter and what his face when they spot the dead space jockey.

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Exploring the Derlict/origin and Hadleys Hope was a blast. Multiplayer is were this game shines. Still need to download Ripleys flame thrower, movie characters and the extra customization opitions. I look forward to slaying xenos and tear marines apart with friends. Overall I give it a 8.5/10

Still trying to find the legandary smartgun and Frosts flamethrower ;D