I thought we'd get a thread going for Alien: Life and Death!
Randy Stradley just shared this sneak peek of the cover of #1.
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Goes on sale in September.
Looks cool! I'm looking forward to seeing what surprises they have in store for us. Maybe we'll even find out what happened to Derrick Russel! Hopefully we see some more variant xenos that spawned from the indigenous species.
So it looks like AvP: Life and Death will be the last mini-series, before the wrap-up issue.
sweet cover art!
What a year to get back into the franchise, so much wonderful stuff being released.
Awesome. Good to see year round Aliens comics again. All they need now is to invite the "Thing From Another World" comics to the party.
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Like that a lot.
The cover looks beautiful!
I know it isn't 100% confirmed that Thies is doing the art for this series, but he just posted another pic from his upcoming project on Instagram. Note the xeno tail visible on the paper underneath the main image. ;D
(https://instagram.fbos1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/13267355_235954596786652_1522061136_n.jpg?)
I would be happy to have thies do the art for the Alien series, I think it would be a better match than it was with the predator series.
http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news/aliens-life-and-death/ (http://www.multiversitycomics.com/news/aliens-life-and-death/)
Sorry for the lack of context, I saw this with 90 seconds left on my break. The artist this time around is Moritat.
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QuoteAliens: Life and Death #1 (of 4)
Written by Dan Abnett
Illustrated by Moritat
Color by Rain Beredo
Cover by David Palumbo
Variant cover by Sachin Teng
On sale Sept 21
FC, 32 pages
$3.99
Miniseries
In the aftermath of the battle with the Engineers, the surviving humans on LV-223 are wounded and scattered—and easy prey for a gathering horde of Aliens!
The Colonial Marines get a taste of what it's like to be at the bottom of the food chain!
I want to see that battle against the Engineers!
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Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 14, 2016, 09:36:07 PM
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In the aftermath of the battle with the Engineers, the surviving humans on LV-223 are wounded and scattered—and easy prey for a gathering horde of Aliens!
The Colonial Marines get a taste of what it's like to be at the bottom of the food chain!
Sounds like they're taking the overlap quite seriously this time around.
The road and wait until the TPB shall be long and painful.....
The Sachin Teng covers certainly have a consistent style, even if it's not one I care too much for. Given that Moritat is doing the art on this, I wonder what Thies' mystery project is? Maybe he's doing the Omega wrap-up issue?
Also worth noting
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not one mention of the black goo in any of the solicitations so far. Maybe they're giving it a break?
Hopefully we see a variety of xenos that have hatched from the different black goo monsters.
Digging around on DeviantArt and Twitter to see what I can find on Moritat, found this (some of which is from a few years ago, so not from
L&D):
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He definitely has an interesting style!
Moritat just posted this on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/MoritatArt/status/743523665904472065 (https://twitter.com/MoritatArt/status/743523665904472065)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2016, 11:07:57 AM
I thought we'd get a thread going for Alien: Life and Death!
Randy Stradley just shared this sneak peek of the cover of #1.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13062427_1126559924075399_8648797190793036077_n.jpg?oh=1bbef9d629c932ff414a2b4769e1c2b8&oe=57AB1F56)
Goes on sale in September.
That looks masterful. Love it. To bad we have to wait until September. That feels like a long wait just to read the first issue. Such is the comic life I suppose.
Moritat is posting a bunch on Twitter right now:
https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743555023724916737 (https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743555023724916737)
https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743555210279165952 (https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743555210279165952)
https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743555363929088000 (https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743555363929088000)
Looks like some new xeno morphologies!
Interesting art for sure not sure how much I'm feeling it yet though.
When did Aliens start working out at the Gym?
The spaceships look great though!! He's got talent for high detail. Mouth on Aliens are the Venom kind..prefer the original..wish everyone would stick to the same design...getting tired of all these different shapes...at least the mandibles are gone.
It will be nice to see how it looks colored. It's cool that it seems like we're getting more aliens that have hatched from the indigenous lifeforms on LV-223.
The interview with Abnett is actually pretty interesting. He says that
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the Aliens are introduced later to avoid them being cannon-fodder. They're the sort of "last hurdle" our heroes have to face. Very much looking forward to the upcoming issues.
https://soundcloud.com/gww-101643494/gww-interview-with-dan-abnett-xenoverse-life-and-death (https://soundcloud.com/gww-101643494/gww-interview-with-dan-abnett-xenoverse-life-and-death)
He has an interesting style, it will grow on me im sure and I also can't wait to see it colored.
Hopefully the Lv223 varieties are better than the creatures in F&S Omega, they were non threatening and goofy.
One of the things I love most about the comics is that each artist has their own take on the Alien, even the bad ones I appreciate in their own way
That said, some are just plain unenjoyable... Sam Keith is the worst but I've seen some bad ones along the way.
Moritat just shared a small sample of the colored final product:
https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743607123678879744 (https://twitter.com/moritatart/status/743607123678879744)
Yes definitely a nice spaceship design with planet and all kinds of stars in the background. Looks pretty realistic.This guy is great, wish he would do all the space scenes.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClGG055UkAAHBB5.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClGjWHJVYAEyp2E.jpg)
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Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 17, 2016, 12:40:56 AM
That said, some are just plain unenjoyable... Sam Keith is the worst but I've seen some bad ones along the way.
The name that shall not be spoken! :o
I actually like this. Obviously we've only seen small portions of it but I can dig it.
Liking that Conestoga-esque design.
I can't stand this cover, the other's great though:
https://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/30-882/Aliens-Life-and-Death-1-Sachin-Teng-variant-cover
I'm not a fan of Sachin Teng's alien work either.
It just occurred to me that if Predator: L&D had Kenner Predators, it wouldn't surprise me if the Aliens portion had Kenner xenomorphs. The ones Moritat showed look a bit like an updated Bull or Wild Boar Alien. Very much looking forward to this in September!
Oh man...I'd love that. So much. Bull-Alien!!!! ;D
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jun 22, 2016, 07:37:37 PM
The ones Moritat showed look a bit like an updated Bull or Wild Boar Alien.
omg please no, please stop..
Aliens are poorly drawn IMO
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 22, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
Oh man...I'd love that. So much. Bull-Alien!!!! ;D
Now all we need is one of the Marines to don an ATAX suit and fight a xenomorph King! :laugh:
As much as I need to see NECA redo that figure, I'm not sure I'd welcome it into the literature world. :laugh:
That's what the living mountain is: a xeno king's birthing pod. :laugh:
Finding the Life and Death series so far (Predator and Prometheus #1) a good step up from Fire and Stone.
Looking forward to the Aliens chapter of this crossover.
Think Aliens Defiance has been brilliant so far - loving the artwork - some of the panels really captures the vibe and terror of the first film.
Quote from: Prez72 on Jun 24, 2016, 10:59:58 AM
Finding the Life and Death series so far (Predator and Prometheus #1) a good step up from Fire and Stone.
Looking forward to the Aliens chapter of this crossover.
Think Aliens Defiance has been brilliant so far - loving the artwork - some of the panels really captures the vibe and terror of the first film.
That is good news. Really happy Dark Horse has finally got it's shit together with Aliens comics in the story and art departments. I spent some time the last few days trying to read all my 1990's Dark Horse Alien comics and 95% of them are total fkin crap. Except for Alien Berserker, Labyrinth & Nightmare Asylum & 1 or 2 more, I found the rest to be total nonsense. Man, who was overlooking this stuff back then?
Thank God it's 2016. Now if only someone could stop that uglay Sachin Aliens: Life and Death variant cover from happening? It's below 1990's quality. Seriously wtf is that thing, can someone tell him it seriously sucks?
I'm looking at all his variant covers and thinking this is not even close of a fit to the AVP universe. More suited for Manga or Barbie.
http://www.google.ca/search?q=sachin+aliens+cover&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4p8-l8cDNAhXKaD4KHUPfCwcQ_AUIBygB&biw=360&bih=615
I enjoy pretty much all the alien comics in some way or another, its a format I am very lenient with when it comes to story and art, I've just always loved them even since I was just a boy. I'm not really into any other comics, its always been Aliens/AvP/ and Predator for me, they just hit that sweet spot I guess.
I should add that I've yet to read colonial marines or deadliest of the species sooo.... I think i'm pretty lucky in that regard.
I'm a bit lenient when it comes to story because of the limited space but artwork...it's a visual format, it needs appropriate and talented visuals. I don't think the old ones are as bad as 95% terrible, they're mostly okay with a few gems, I think. Definitely some stinkers though.
I usually quite enjoy the many alien art styles, there are some that I can't really enjoy at all though like female war and Lovesick.
Previews World has a one-page preview of
Aliens: L&D #1. Beware of spoilers for those who are intending to go in blind.
http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=180807&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.previewsworld.com/Home/1/1/71/977?articleID=180807&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
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So, in addition to Galgo (who seems to have gone bald), we know that Chris (one of the couple) is still alive. The brunette in the first panel may also be Angela.
Looking confirmed that we'll be seeing some weird xeno morphologies in this. I'll have to see more to decide how much I like the art, but I can see that DH has chosen artists with broadly similar styles so that transitions between series aren't as jarring. Having Rain Beredo coloring the whole thing helps, too.
Wow really really not feeling that art right now, hopefully when I see more Ill change my mind. So far at least... I would say the art of predators L&D has been the best of the run. I wish the art for the aliens arc wasn't so cartoony, can Plunkett please just do one more aliens series?
Tristan, Plunkett , or Beauvais please ;D
Great...more terribly drawn Aliens. ::)
Art I can deal with up to a certain degree, but if the story is sh!t that's what makes me feel like going ape shits.
So 17 issues of Galgo wasn't enough now we're going for another 17? I really don't get Dark Horse... You'd think sometimes it's run by.......Galgo himself? I'm ready for another low IQ mediocre story...
Can they also hire Tristan Jones as the only Aliens artist? 30 years and they still don't get it. Anyhow, maybe I'm being too harsh let's read an issue first..
I actually like Galgo, especially when he has Ahab to play off.
Me too. I really enjoyed Galgo. Not digging on this artwork though. The Alien just looks terrible. :-\
Yeah I liked galgo as well.
Quote from: Nostromo on Jul 01, 2016, 06:18:33 PM
Art I can deal with up to a certain degree, but if the story is sh!t that's what makes me feel like going ape shits.
So 17 issues of Galgo wasn't enough now we're going for another 17? I really don't get Dark Horse... You'd think sometimes it's run by.......Galgo himself? I'm ready for another low IQ mediocre story...
Can they also hire Tristan Jones as the only Aliens artist? 30 years and they still don't get it. Anyhow, maybe I'm being too harsh let's read an issue first..
Galgo wasn't in 17 issues of Fire & Stone or Life & Death. He was in 10 issues of Fire & Stone and wasn't in any of the first five issues of Life & Death.
One thing I also like
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is how the solicitation talks about the growing xenomorph horde. It's cool to see that happening now that the Engineer that was culling them is dead.
Luckily for Ahab, when he confronted the Engineer, the Engineer didn't have his AoE gun
Yeah that Alien art... can't say I'm too pleased with it either. Very simplistic and almost cartoon style. Pretty jarring after seeing them done as well as they are in Defiance.
I'm interested to see if
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the Geryon is still orbiting LV-223, or if its orbit decayed and it crashed at some point in the ear after F&S. The black goo Predator's remains were still up there.
What's wrong with Galgo? I liked that asshole, because he knows he's an asshole. I'd hate him in real life, but that's the point, right? That for once, we 're supposed to actually NOT like the star of the show? And I don't mean like your usual anti-hero Wolverine or Batman or Deadpool. No, I mean, actually hate the f***er.
QuoteWhat's wrong with Galgo?
He's a cold blooded murderer.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Jul 03, 2016, 04:33:00 PM
I'm interested to see if Spoiler
the Geryon is still orbiting LV-223, or if its orbit decayed and it crashed at some point in the ear after F&S. The black goo Predator's remains were still up there.
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The Geryon had left orbit with Helios, Kadmos and Perses and was headed back towards Earth. It's not known if Elden brought Helios and Geryon back to LV-223, or just Helios.
Aliens Life & Death now available for pre order on Amazon.com & Amazon.ca. I've already pre-ordered Aliens Defiance & Prometheus L&D to show support.
Great way to match them with another book to get free shipping plus you don't get billed until they ship it...in 2017. If the price gets lowered they match it as well.
Aliens: Life and Death https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506701256/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_M0ONxbJCSHBF6
Aliens: Life and Death https://www.amazon.ca/dp/1506701256/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_z1ONxbHFYQ5Y9
That reference to Alienkamp, though!
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 01, 2016, 02:32:18 AM
That reference to Alienkamp, though!
What was the reference?
It's in the product description:
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in the aftermath of the battle with the Engineers, the surviving humans on LV-223 are wounded and scattered- and easy prey for a gathering horde of Aliens!
The Colonial Marines get a taste of what it's like to be at the bottom of the food chain!
In 2017 look for a re-emergence of the Alien/ Aliens franchise as no fewer than two films are slated to be released- original director Ridly Scott's Alien: Covenant (formerly titled Prometheus 2) and Neil Blomkamp's currently untitled Alien project starring Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 01, 2016, 03:22:59 AM
It's in the product description:
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in the aftermath of the battle with the Engineers, the surviving humans on LV-223 are wounded and scattered- and easy prey for a gathering horde of Aliens!
The Colonial Marines get a taste of what it's like to be at the bottom of the food chain!
In 2017 look for a re-emergence of the Alien/ Aliens franchise as no fewer than two films are slated to be released- original director Ridly Scott's Alien: Covenant (formerly titled Prometheus 2) and Neil Blomkamp's currently untitled Alien project starring Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn.
That'll teach me for not reading the description. Thanks Ultramorph. ;D
Do they know something we don't? :laugh: Alienkamp isn't slated for release in 2017.
Adventures in Poor Taste has a short preview of issue #1. No huge spoilers, but be warned if you're going in blind.
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2016/08/22/dark-horse-preview-aliens-life-and-death-1/ (http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2016/08/22/dark-horse-preview-aliens-life-and-death-1/)
I have to say the art looks a bit better than that other preview we got a while back. September will be good for Aliens content!
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 23, 2016, 02:48:41 AM
Adventures in Poor Taste has a short preview of issue #1. No huge spoilers, but be warned if you're going in blind.
http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2016/08/22/dark-horse-preview-aliens-life-and-death-1/ (http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2016/08/22/dark-horse-preview-aliens-life-and-death-1/)
I have to say the art looks a bit better than that other preview we got a while back. September will be good for Aliens content!
Cool!
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Really like this art with the Tomb structure in the background. That is one awesome scenery, very well thought of. And phew no Aliens with eyes. It's all looking good. Aliens look kinda squiggly but we can't have Tristan drawing everything lol. At least they have a nice long elongated back head. I like em.
(https://s4.postimg.org/6s70mp4vh/22_08_2016_11_00_26_PM.jpg)
I'll wait to see more but I'm sold on the artwork just yet. Think I may have just been massively spoiled.
The art may look less impressive at the minute but perhaps the art will be dynamic and convey the story well.
The art is better than Prometheus L&D, I'm satisfied with it.
I wonder how much the Fire & Stone/Life & Death stories influenced Alien: Covenant?
The paradise, where David and Shaw have apparently ended up.
Them seeking answers about the Engineers, probably spending a lot of time studying what they've done and what the black accelerant is all about, like Derrick Russell did in Aliens F&S.
It would be cool to see something happen to David like what happened to Elden. I'm sure there will be something fresh brought into the saga with Covenant, but so far I can't help but think that the synopsis sounds like it's moving in the direction that F&S took.
Nerdist has an advance review of #1, and it's pretty positive (3.5/5). Beware of some small spoilers.
http://nerdist.com/aliens-life-and-death-1-lives-up-to-its-title-advance-review/?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalytics (http://nerdist.com/aliens-life-and-death-1-lives-up-to-its-title-advance-review/?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalytics)
That 2-page spread gives me hope for the art!
Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 26, 2016, 07:19:27 PM
Nerdist has an advance review of #1, and it's pretty positive (3.5/5). Beware of some small spoilers.
http://nerdist.com/aliens-life-and-death-1-lives-up-to-its-title-advance-review/?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalytics (http://nerdist.com/aliens-life-and-death-1-lives-up-to-its-title-advance-review/?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalytics)
That 2-page spread gives me hope for the art!
Hey! Where are the 2 pages? Maybe it's because I'm on the mobile? I only see that same pic from the last review. The one with the slack jawed squiggly Aliens.
It's the same image, but we see the characters on the right. I think it looks pretty cool.
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Quote from: Ultramorph on Aug 26, 2016, 08:33:29 PM
It's the same image, but we see the characters on the right. I think it looks pretty cool.
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Ah true, a bit cartoony but they look better than John Bolton art I guess. This is the 5th or 7th gunfight on grass since Fire & Stone. It's like they just don't learn I guess. Both the characters and the people writing this story. Lol. Yeah, I went there.
Another review, via Fanbase Press. It's positive, too. Beware of spoilers.
http://fanbasepress.com/index.php/press/reviews/item/6831-aliens-life-and-death-1-advance-comic-book-review-life-and-death-and-death-and-death (http://fanbasepress.com/index.php/press/reviews/item/6831-aliens-life-and-death-1-advance-comic-book-review-life-and-death-and-death-and-death)
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I wonder if the Engineers are going to be killed off in Prometheus #4, or if they'll hang around in the background and play a role later on?
Another positive review. Beware of spoilers.
http://www.roguesportal.com/2016/08/aliens-life-death-1-review/ (http://www.roguesportal.com/2016/08/aliens-life-death-1-review/)
CBR has a longer preview, with spoilers.
http://www.cbr.com/excl-aliens-life-and-death-1/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list (http://www.cbr.com/excl-aliens-life-and-death-1/?utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_campaign=CBR-TW&view=list)
This art is going to be divisive. I like it well enough.
If I had too..I'd give a 9.5/10 for the Art in Defiance & I'd give this a 6/10. Cartoony Aliens demistify the Alien and kill the horror.
Quote from: Nostromo on Aug 31, 2016, 11:44:29 PM
If I had too..I'd give a 9.5/10 for the Art in Defiance & I'd give this a 6/10. Cartoony Aliens demistify the Alien and kill the horror.
I agree.
I've only skimmed it but on the surface of it, yeah, not digging the artwork.
Also not a fan of the artwork, too simplistic and cartoony. Hopefully the writing can carry it through, hope we get more of Galgo being Fire and Stone Galgo. I hate him but he always made me grin the moment he opened his mouth, so hate as in the good kind of hate. :P
I'm praying that the writing and story will carry the next 2 series. I wish Brian Wood and Tristan Jones and the colorist from Defiance continue doing Aliens comics, because they really get it.
I'm looking forward to seeing who the artist is on the AVP arc. I think Thies is doing the Omega issue.
Another piece of art has surfaced on Twitter:
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https://twitter.com/fox_emm/status/771905621008519172 (https://twitter.com/fox_emm/status/771905621008519172)
Hope no one gets offended, just voicing my opinion.
Although the heads are not bad for a cartoony Alien, like was said earlier it instantly kills at least half the horror side to it. And by them running on all fours like some dog they are again less scarier.
Now if you add the webbed feet and the rest of the fanboy geek sh!t, they're a total joke. Class A Crap this, send it back to Dark Horse and the artist and tell them to redo it before it sees the light of day.
Review Fix has a review of #1, and it's negative. Beware of spoilers, as always.
http://reviewfix.com/2016/09/aliens-life-and-death-1-review-a-sad-spin-off/ (http://reviewfix.com/2016/09/aliens-life-and-death-1-review-a-sad-spin-off/)
I just tweeted that review to DH comics, Dan Abnett and Moritat. As well as the other review of Prometheus on the bottom of the page; That was my first impression too. The whole story is a bunch of people running around, this has been happing for 25 straight issues now..going to 34 soon..Do these people think or actually re-read what they are writing? And Moritat draws one crappy looking Alien.
Negatron, can you please chime in?
It's pretty disappointing considering Abnett wrote Isolation and he really sounded like he got it in the podcast interview that was shared on one of these threads. :-\
Dark Horse has an extended preview of #1 on their site. It's mostly composed of pages we've seen before, but that last page has a spoiler, so beware.
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-520?page=0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-520?page=0)
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I'm glad that the Engineers won't be written out in Prometheus #4 like I was afraid of! Also interesting to hear that Angela, Singer, and some others are apparently up in orbit on the Juggernaut with the other Engineer.
Hulking Reviewer has a positive review of #1. Beware of spoilers for the end of the Prometheus series.
http://hulkingreviewer.com/home/reviews/aliens-life-death-1/ (http://hulkingreviewer.com/home/reviews/aliens-life-death-1/)
Nice to know the pace has been picked up. Just hope it goes somewhere!
Still not sold on the art though.
The solicitation for #4, out
December 21:
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QuoteAliens: Life and Death #4 (of 4)
Dan Abnett (W), Moritat (A), Rain Beredo (C), and David Palumbo (Cover)
On sale Dec 21
FC, 32 pages
$3.99
Miniseries
As the Colonial Marines on LV-223 prepare to make their last stand against the xenomorph horde, their one hope may lie in the Alien queen!
• Features the most unexpected showdown in the franchise's history!
Maybe they'll weaponize some powerloaders to capture the queen like they did in
Female War!
I just read #1 on digital, and it was OK. I knew what to expect going in, I just hope the series picks up from here.
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I can now say that I'm really mixed on the art. A few pages look pretty cool, if a bit stylized, but there are a few places it just doesn't look good at all. That's especially true of the humans in a few panels. I actually don't mind the stylization of the xenomorphs as much, given that we're basically dealing with Kenner here, but I do mind how they see to be flying or floating in most panels. I get it's a frenetic "They're coming over the walls" situation, but it bothers me.
Based on where the character stand, and the covers for issues 2 and 3, I think 2 will e about rescuing Galgo and 3 about rescuing Chris. I'm interested to see how they go about trying to captue the queen.
My feeling is that we won't be seeing Foster and company until the Omega issue.
Just finished reading #1 digital as well. Was a pretty fast read. Was done in a matter of minutes. Was Meh for me as the rest of this Life & Death series has been.
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I may sound cold here a little but man did Jill just annoy me greatly when she started freaking out over Chris being taken. I wanted to slap her in the face & yell at her to come to her senses & get with it or I at least was hoping someone in the group would but no. We all know what fate Chris is going to have haha. I agree with Ultramorph as well. Some panels look decent & others I don't dig at all. The Aliens themselves I don't like the art of at all but some of the humans were alright looking at times.
Hmmm. The artwork is a real letdown (on the Xeno's) but we've known that for a little while now. Story wise this was a bit of a groundhog days issue - just similar rehash of marines getting ambused in the jungle by swarms of badly drawn (& stupid) xenos. We saw a lot of that in Fire and Stone too!
The only characters I find truly interesting is Galgo and his pal Ahab.
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Hmmm. The artwork is a real letdown (on the Xeno's) but we've known that for a little while now. Story wise this was a bit of a groundhog days issue - just similar rehash of marines getting ambused in the jungle by swarms of badly drawn (& stupid) xenos. We saw a lot of that in Fire and Stone too!
That^^
The only interesting characters I find are the Engineers, the lady that's in charge that sometimes acts smart sometimes stupid (Heh, just like the story itself), and Ahab a bit...That new Marine leader dude is pretty ok too..
Overall it was an ok run, it just felt as if all 4 Prometheus issues were the same story. Spot Engineers, return to camp, light a fire sing a few songs share a few drinks & laughs, plot out some half ass plan, get the usual nagging by Galgo, and rinse and repeat lol. The only thing we learned in this series is that 2 Engineers can work together, just like humans lol.
Oh yeah, there was also some type of Alien Xenomorphs, some with eyes...
Loved the Covers much more than the Defiance covers though, if that helps.
I'll go pick up a copy of Aliens Life & Death when Defiance #5 comes out next Wednesday. A 10 minute read of this type is not really worth my gaz to the store.
I just loved the "Fire and Stone" series, hope they do a "Complete Life and Death".Can't wait for this! :D
I actually liked how Moritat
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drew the hive interior on the second to last page. The fact that the xenos are keeping Chris alive gives me hope that we might still get some Labyrinth-type shenanigans, though I doubt DH would go as far as they did back then.
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drew the hive interior on the second to last page. The fact that the xenos are keeping Chris alive gives me hope that we might still get some Labyrinth-type shenanigans, though I doubt DH would go as far as they did back then.
Yes! I definitely agree with your spoiler that it would be very cool if they decided to go that route! That's the kind of stuff I want to see in these new comics.
Just picked this up and I'm not a fan of how the Aliens were drawn at all, though the humans looked ok most of the time. Then again, Jill's sad emoticon face made me giggle later on for all the wrong reasons. XD
This also may be a bit of a weird criticism, but I feel they drew Chris as too attractive and stereotypical comic femaley. She's been established as having a long face and the Fire and Stone team even had her being picked on for her looks.
About all the running around and combat, I don't get what the real issue with this is. It makes sense in the story and we've had fairly restrained action until now. What I think people are having trouble with is realising that this isn't issue 1 of a new series, it's issue 12 of Life and Death. The numbering and naming is really messing with people's heads it seems. One thing I picked up from that previously linked negative review is the repeated statement that the issue doesn't work as a jumping on spot for new readers. Well of course not, it's the middle of the freakin book. >_>
That said, I do think the issue could have used some more plot pieces to make it stand out more from other Aliens combat scenes.
I actually agree with the criticism of how Chris has been drawn in the whole event. In Fire and Stone she had a very distinctive hooked nose that neither Mutti nor Moritat has drawn. Small, but I noticed it, too.
Chris' 'distinctive nose' wasn't obvious in F+S Predator or Omega either.
Quote from: Kurai on Sep 23, 2016, 06:25:56 PM
Just picked this up and I'm not a fan of how the Aliens were drawn at all, though the humans looked ok most of the time. Then again, Jill's sad emoticon face made me giggle later on for all the wrong reasons. XD
This also may be a bit of a weird criticism, but I feel they drew Chris as too attractive and stereotypical comic femaley. She's been established as having a long face and the Fire and Stone team even had her being picked on for her looks.
About all the running around and combat, I don't get what the real issue with this is. It makes sense in the story and we've had fairly restrained action until now. What I think people are having trouble with is realising that this isn't issue 1 of a new series, it's issue 12 of Life and Death. The numbering and naming is really messing with people's heads it seems. One thing I picked up from that previously linked negative review is the repeated statement that the issue doesn't work as a jumping on spot for new readers. Well of course not, it's the middle of the freakin book. >_>
That said, I do think the issue could have used some more plot pieces to make it stand out more from other Aliens combat scenes.
Nice review Kurai, that pretty much sums it all up for me too. I would just like to add a few things:
1. Moritat should never draw an Alien in his life again. Sorry for being so blunt, but it's the truth. The humans and other scenery is much better drawn. But the Aliens, horrible. Like Xenogenesis or Sam Keith or maybe worse for me. Not only are they always running on all 4's, they have the wide big bug mouths jaws and always opened. And that's just for starters. Easily tied for the worst part of the book.
2. The story. Actually, what story? I still cannot see any.
It's getting to the point where I'm about to give up on this series. I know for sure I'll never buy anything written from Dan Abnett again. I'm so happy i didn't drive to the store last week just for this. I must have read it in 5 minutes.
Every comic has been just bang bang run run hide bang bang...absolutely not one mention of anything scientific or any writing that requires an iq of more than 5 to understand.
I don't know who came up with this story but it could have been written and drawn much better. It was a series that basically needed more love or someone that's really passionate about the series. It seems as if all this was written by someone who's working on it as if it's just a side project.
4/10 I would give this issue. All the points going to the location (LV-223) and also the ending, which shows some hope for the next issue.
The good news is I got Aliens Defiance #5 with this at the same time.
Fire & Stone had sciency stuff. Life & Death (as you may have gathered from the title) is about combat and survival. There's very little room for waxing lyrical.
Im digging over all how fast paced everything is. I dont mind techy and speech laden comics, but its a nice change of pace from Fire and Stone... complete page turner :) Just kinda sucks how Dark Horse is spacing all of the books out to 1 a month.
I need to pick up the Fire and Stone Omnibus, I heard there was a lot of unused concept art in it (including Deacons)
Surprise!
I actually really liked this issue, the art is squigly and not good but I still enjoyed it more than the art in Prometheus L&D. I liked where the events went and the aliens felt like an actual threat.
The art actually really grew on me after I looked at the issue a few times. Moritat's xenos are cartoony, but he does add a good amount of detail, so I can dig it. I agree that the xenos felt like a credible threat in this issue. Have you read the solicitations for the coming issues? I'm interested to see
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what the Marines' plan is to use the queen. I'm hoping for a cool sequence where they capture her.
So I enjoyed #1 far more than I thought I would. Clips along at just the right pace, not stuffed, just the right setup, some great character moments in the artwork. In general, I think the artwork was good but the Aliens are still too cartoony. They're on the same level as Sam Keith.
DH has a short preview of #2. Beware of spoilers!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0)
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DH has a short preview of #2. Beware of spoilers!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0)
Thanks Ultra.
Some weird sh!t in there lol. That first thingy on the first panel looks freaky. The rest is the same as every other issue. And what is up with those cartoony baby headed anime looking humans. They weren't drawn like that in the first issue. Whoever coordinated this entire series...is definitely not the same person who made Defiance and the future Dead Orbit series..it can't be...
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DH has a short preview of #2. Beware of spoilers!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0)
Yea pretty meh about the artwork. The creatures on the first page look similar to the things we saw in Fire & Stone. I also don't know why I didn't piece this together before but Chris & Jill, that's got to be a reference to the Resident Evil series where most people expected the Chris & Jill characters in that series to hook up but they never did. I could be wrong though, just my thought.
Quote from: XenoZipper on Oct 13, 2016, 06:06:07 AM
Yea pretty meh about the artwork. The creatures on the first page look similar to the things we saw in Fire & Stone.
Yeah, I think they're the monkey things from Prometheus - Fire and Stone.
I actually think the artwork in that preview looks better than #1. Doesn't look so cartoony to me.
I didn't mind those monkey like creatures at all. Was nice to see a new kind of creature, we just didn't see terribly too much of them or what other kinds of creatures could have been created. I haven't read that series since it first came out so I don't know if I'm forgetting if there was other creatures or not.
Yeah, it's cool to see the creatures some Fire and Stone make some cameo appearances. I wonder if
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we'll see Derrick Russel's skeleton in the hive. Keeping an eye out for his glasses!
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DH has a short preview of #2. Beware of spoilers!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0)
Yea pretty meh about the artwork. The creatures on the first page look similar to the things we saw in Fire & Stone. I also don't know why I didn't piece this together before but Chris & Jill, that's got to be a reference to the Resident Evil series where most people expected the Chris & Jill characters in that series to hook up but they never did. I could be wrong though, just my thought.
That's a good observation, also how the Black Goo is akin to the biohazards of the Resident Evil series, causing similar mutations. Elden and Francis both remind me of Tyrants in a way.
Also, the Engineer is kind of like the M. X Tyrant from Resident Evil 2. Both are big, chalky white, bald and strong as f**k... and persistent chasers.
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DH has a short preview of #2. Beware of spoilers!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0)
Yea pretty meh about the artwork. The creatures on the first page look similar to the things we saw in Fire & Stone. I also don't know why I didn't piece this together before but Chris & Jill, that's got to be a reference to the Resident Evil series where most people expected the Chris & Jill characters in that series to hook up but they never did. I could be wrong though, just my thought.
That's a good observation, also how the Black Goo is akin to the biohazards of the Resident Evil series, causing similar mutations. Elden and Francis both remind me of Tyrants in a way.
Also, the Engineer is kind of like the M. X Tyrant from Resident Evil 2. Both are big, chalky white, bald and strong as f**k... and persistent chasers.
Awesome observation yourself! I never even thought about the Engineers being similar to Mr.X or the black goo being like the biohazards in the game. Nice pull man, nice pull.
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DH has a short preview of #2. Beware of spoilers!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/Previews/29-804?page=0)
Yea pretty meh about the artwork. The creatures on the first page look similar to the things we saw in Fire & Stone. I also don't know why I didn't piece this together before but Chris & Jill, that's got to be a reference to the Resident Evil series where most people expected the Chris & Jill characters in that series to hook up but they never did. I could be wrong though, just my thought.
That's a good observation, also how the Black Goo is akin to the biohazards of the Resident Evil series, causing similar mutations. Elden and Francis both remind me of Tyrants in a way.
Also, the Engineer is kind of like the M. X Tyrant from Resident Evil 2. Both are big, chalky white, bald and strong as f**k... and persistent chasers.
Awesome observation yourself! I never even thought about the Engineers being similar to Mr.X or the black goo being like the biohazards in the game. Nice pull man, nice pull.
Thanks!
Someone probably noticed these similarities and thought they'd put in a Chris and Jill as a nod and to see if anyone gets the reference. :laugh:
While on the topic of RE, Weyland-Yutani is the Alien's version of Umbrella. Only they don't manufacture the bio hazards, they want to get them to manufacture them.
I like these small nods, I liked how Angela in Fire and Stone, especially in Omega looked alot like Lara Croft from Tomb Raider. I think she even used a bow and arrow at one point like the in new Tomb Raider games.
Another nice pull of Umbrella being similar to WY! Ugh, could you imagine if those 2 companies pulled their resources together? Be worse than Cyberdyne. It's been a long time since I last read Fire & Stone but I'll check it out again to look for the Lara Croft reference! That's really cool. I hope these nods are intentional haha
That would be scary indeed! W-Y would probably abandon their search for Aliens as most of the B.O.Ws that Umbrella makes are just as deadly. :P
As for Angela, it's in her appearance in Omega. When she and Galgo are hunting those strange creatures for food, she has a blue shirt and in general her clothes and hair remind me of the appearance of the new Lara Croft. :laugh:
That's really cool. I'll check Omega in a bit for the Lara shot. All this Resident Evil talk has reminded me I have to finish reading those comics sometime soon too. I got up to RE2 and then started reading something else. I bounce around titles a lot.
Rock Shock Pop has a positive review of #2, along with a few new pages. Beware of spoilers.
http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/content.php?6310-Aliens-Life-And-Death-2 (http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/content.php?6310-Aliens-Life-And-Death-2)
I just read #2 on digital. It was a slow burn, but it's clearly setting up for a big conclusion.
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This issue reminded me a lot of Predator: Life and Death#1, with the Marines getting read to drop in. The art seems to have solidified a bit, so I think people might like this one more. Although, as someone who didn't mind how Moritat drew the xenos last issue, I didn't love how he drew Ahab here. That last page was great, though! We also got some good character moments in this issue. It was good to see Jill move past where she was last issue. It will be inteteresting to see how her deal with Lorimer plays out.
Overall, I'm liking the character growth we're seeing.
What are your thoughts about Foster and the others on the Juggernaut? My money is on not seeing them again until the Omega issue, where they'll probably overpower the Engineer and rescue the others.
Here's another review for issue #2, looks a bit high at 8.4/10?? I hope it's that good, we'll see next week..
http://www.geekedoutnation.com/comic-book-review-aliens-life-and-death-2/
It's a really solid issue.
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The last one was one big action sequence, this slows way down to focus on character stuff. We get a good idea of how all the events have effected the Marines, and see a darker side of Jill, which is interesting. Moritat also draws a really good Marine.
Just finished reading #2. In my opinion, certainly not worth that 8/10 score.
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Nothing happened. Just a bunch of talking, the marines go back down to the planet but there was 0 action. I mean none. Not a single shot was fired by anybody the entire issue. I also gotta say, that was some of the worst art I've seen yet. Holy hell did Ahab look like complete shit. Awful art direction. Can read the issue here and see for yourself...
Cpl. Hicks - Please don't post links to pirate sites.
Why are you persisting with the series?
If there's action it's too quick; if there's taking there's no action. Is it a masochistic streak?
Lol :)
Because I'm an Aliens fan & I try to give it the benefit of the doubt to get better. That too much to ask for? I stuck through Prometheus & Predator of this story, why quit now? When did I ever say the action was too quick? Didn't come from me. My main complaint with it was the art. Was that so bad to say? But whatever I'll stop posting here then.
No need to get so precious.
This post seemed to indicate the action of the first issue was too quick. Or perhaps I'm misreading.
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Just finished reading #1 digital as well. Was a pretty fast read. Was done in a matter of minutes. Was Meh for me as the rest of this Life & Death series has been.
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I may sound cold here a little but man did Jill just annoy me greatly when she started freaking out over Chris being taken. I wanted to slap her in the face & yell at her to come to her senses & get with it or I at least was hoping someone in the group would but no. We all know what fate Chris is going to have haha. I agree with Ultramorph as well. Some panels look decent & others I don't dig at all. The Aliens themselves I don't like the art of at all but some of the humans were alright looking at times.
No one is trying to stop you posting, but you clearly don't like the series and have had next to nothing positive to say about Predator or Prometheus, and there still seven issues to go. It's a bit of a commitment and investment for something you dislike, that's all.
Yes that was misread. I didn't mean the action was too quick. Just the issue itself was a super fast read compared to others is all. But yes I get your point. Done talking about it.
I read the first issue in 7 mins I think maybe 5. And the art is deadly. Deadly as in horrible. Just my opinion. Hopefully the story turns out ok. Hopefully.
I think the art in issue 2 looks much better, and I didn't mind it too much in the first issue. Either way it's a step up from the art in prometheus imo. Also personally i'm digging the story overall, especially after re-reading the whole series up to this point. My biggest gripe is that we're not getting any answers about the engineers and what they are doing on LV-223 or what is actually happening to the indigenous plants, animals, and aliens and why they are all deformed. Thats kinda what I was hoping for with this series.
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My biggest gripe is that we're not getting any answers about the engineers and what they are doing on LV-223 or what is actually happening to the indigenous plants, animals, and aliens and why they are all deformed. Thats kinda what I was hoping for with this series.
Exactly, it's like they're just there. It would have been great to talk about why the Engineers are there how and why things are mutating, explore the tombs more...instead it's just Galgo screaming his off for 25 issues now and Bam! Boom! Bing! Bling! Kaboom! Pow! Pow! & Bang!
I do wish we got more about the state of the jungle and the creatures. It seems like the ecosystem has declined since Fire and Stone, but it hasn't been touched on too much. I was hoping for Labyrinth-type stuff with the xenos trying to farm healthy hosts, but I don't think that's what we'll get.
Probably the most exposition heavy issue in the whole series so far. Oddly enough I enjoyed this one more than the previous issue which I did find rather boring (odd once again given the all out action compared to this issue).
Must admit I'm curious where they go with Jill and Chris' situation.
I felt the artwork (linework) is good but let down by the over bright, high contrast and saturated colouring. Aliens' colouring should be a more toned down palette IMO.
Quotewhy things are mutating
Ref: Prometheus film, Fire & Stone comics.
Also, shouldn't Galgo et all be suffering from brain damage by now? Or have they been subsisting solely on supplies scavenged from the various wrecks? Even after taking precautions such as that, ou'd imagine it would be hard not to be taking in large amounts of mutagens in water and the air. Even if pure Black Goo isn't in contact with the water, it would probably wind up in trace amounts through decomposing BG Monsters.
I'm probably taking it too seriously. :P
Haven't picked up issue 2 yet, hopefully soon.
Good points. There are also bugs on that world right? Look how well bugs spread diseases over here, it'd be a nightmare to handle on LV-223 if some Goo-Bug comes to bite you.
And what about micro-organisms? Some Goo-Amoeba or Goo-Germ could be serious problems for our heroes. It's scary enough to see how quickly germs evolve in real life, imagine an accelerant infected bacterium, it'd probably evolve every minute so any anti-biotics or other precautions wouldn't be too secure.
Also weren't Galgo and Angela hunting one of the creatures for food?
Maybe the Accelerant is just really unpredictable and it's impossible to predict what the outcome will be.
I think I'm thinking too much into this as well.
Derrick Russell got sick, but he may have already had a tumour and accelerant accelerated it, like it did with Francis' cancer. The others from the Onager didn't live long enough to tell either way. And they also commented that some flora look tainted and some didn't.
More than likely there was a good amount of supplies on the Helios when Elden crashed it back on LV-223 in Omega. Before that, they seemed about to starve. Angela mentioned in one of the Prometheus: L&D issues that they have a filtration system rigged for cleaning the water.
So far A:L&D has been a huge let-down - in fact, the entire series of L&D has been kind of a let-down. I'm not a big gun-play action scenes fan, but so far the jungle parts of P:L&D are the only part of this series that I've appreciated so far.
The art, especially the Alien designs, in this series and especially in the Aliens episodes have ALL been awful. Such a turn off.
I read everything from Predator: Life and Death #4 onward while I was doing laundry today. The story defInitely reads better as a continuous whole, so I'm really looking forward to the collected edition. I can really appreciate how it's following on from Fire and Stone while also being its own story about Paget and company.
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I read everything from Predator: Life and Death #4 onward while I was doing laundry today. The story defInitely reads better as a continuous whole, so I'm really looking forward to the collected edition. I can really appreciate how it's following on from Fire and Stone while also being its own story about Paget and company.
True, I got my hands on the entire Fire and Stone collection finally and am glad I got it when it's all done. I understand why people got annoyed that so little happens and you gotta wait until next month. But to have it all at once, it reads as a fun story.
Quote from: SM on Oct 21, 2016, 04:37:10 AM
Derrick Russell got sick, but he may have already had a tumour and accelerant accelerated it, like it did with Francis' cancer. The others from the Onager didn't live long enough to tell either way. And they also commented that some flora look tainted and some didn't.
That's a very good point. I'd love to read a series that follows a situation similar to Aliens F&S, a wilderness survival story with Aliens and xenomorphic fauna/flora.
Just finished reading #2 and I'm fine with it. It's a good counter balance to last month's action and the artwork does seem to have improved a little, though Ahab seems to have upper mandibles that phase in and out of existance. :-X
Quote from: Nostromo on Oct 20, 2016, 03:38:52 PM
Exactly, it's like they're just there. It would have been great to talk about why the Engineers are there how and why things are mutating, explore the tombs more...instead it's just Galgo screaming his off for 25 issues now and Bam! Boom! Bing! Bling! Kaboom! Pow! Pow! & Bang!
Galgo only appeared in Prometheus L&D and most of the time he's been standing around doing nothing or acting as Ahab's damsel in distress. :P
Fire and Stone goes into quite a bit of detail as to why everything is mutating and this is a sequel to that, though I would like for them to explore the Engineer facilities more... I don't think we'll get anything like that until after Covenant is out. :(
Quote from: Ultramorph on Oct 21, 2016, 11:15:53 PM
I read everything from Predator: Life and Death #4 onward while I was doing laundry today. The story defInitely reads better as a continuous whole, so I'm really looking forward to the collected edition. I can really appreciate how it's following on from Fire and Stone while also being its own story about Paget and company.
Yeah, I have to admit that I really would like it if they'd rather just name it something like AvP and have it as a continuous series with Fire and Stone/Life and Death simply being story arcs. I've said it before but the naming is really slipping people up for some reason.
My biggest problem with the depiction of Ahab is that one panel where he clearly has both eyes.
Dark Horse has a preview of #3. Beware of spoilers!
http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/29-805/Aliens-Life-and-Death-3 (http://www.darkhorse.com/Comics/29-805/Aliens-Life-and-Death-3)
Those Aliens. :-\ I just can't get into that style.
I kind of like
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how the queen seems to have spider legs. It'll be interesting to see more.
Thanks Ultra. This art looks so 90's. Colors are ok. I don't think an Alien should have a full mouth-jaw that opens so wide but that's just me. Depending on the AVP art & how Aliens L&D 3-4 finishes, I'll probably sit that one out and just wait for the TPB once it comes out. And it has to hit the 10 buck bin. Can't wait for more of Defiance & Dead Orbit afterwards.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 04, 2016, 11:13:28 AM
Those Aliens. :-\ I just can't get into that style.
I feel the same. They lack depth and detail, they also don't look interesting, scary or even alive for that matter.
At least the art will be better in the AvP arc.
How the hell is the Alien Tongue that long? lol
Moritat's work in the current Hellblazer comic is pretty good, I'd check that out to gain a little more faith in him. But yeah, his Aliens are far too... Cartoony? Simple? I dunno.However, his people look good.
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I'm liking that there seems to be some sort of intelligence behind the Queen.
Quote from: Kurai on Nov 04, 2016, 03:29:45 PM
Moritat's work in the current Hellblazer comic is pretty good, I'd check that out to gain a little more faith in him. But yeah, his Aliens are far too... Cartoony? Simple? I dunno.However, his people look good.
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I'm liking that there seems to be some sort of intelligence behind the Queen.
I'm sure his art is great in other books, but some or most of these Alien drawings are abysmal.
,,,oooh...this looks original...
Rock Shock Pop has a positive review of #3. Beware of spoilers.
http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/content.php?6370-Aliens-Life-And-Death-3 (http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/content.php?6370-Aliens-Life-And-Death-3)
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Good to see that they are going the "black goo is destroying the hive" route.
You forgot this spoiler too lol.
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Braaaat braaaaaaap pow pow boooom
Quote from: Nostromo on Nov 14, 2016, 06:36:22 PM
You forgot this spoiler too lol.
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Braaaat braaaaaaap pow pow boooom
LOL! I love those sound effects in the comic panels. :laugh:
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BRRrrRRrrRrrrRAAAaAAAaaAaaAaaaaAAAAAaaaaAAAAAAaaaaapppPPPP!!!!
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Rock Shock Pop has a positive review of #3. Beware of spoilers.
http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/content.php?6370-Aliens-Life-And-Death-3 (http://www.rockshockpop.com/forums/content.php?6370-Aliens-Life-And-Death-3)
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Good to see that they are going the "black goo is destroying the hive" route.
...What?
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So much for the black goo being some sort of template to create Alien-like creatures.
I really hope Ridley and co have some sort of roadmap.
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Why would the goo not affect them?
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Why would it if it purpose seems to be to creates some sort of Alien-like creature?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 15, 2016, 08:19:58 AM
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Why would it if it purpose seems to be to creates some sort of Alien-like creature?
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Black Goo giveth and Black Goo taketh away. :P
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 15, 2016, 08:19:58 AM
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Why would it if it purpose seems to be to creates some sort of Alien-like creature?
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"seems" and "Alien-like".
These Aliens were spawned from LV-426, so a) who knows how far removed genetically and b) Aliens are an amalgam of Alien and human, so the human aspect is open to being affected. And c) who knows if Aliens are affected or not.
Valid points but it just reinforces why I hope they have some sort of roadmap for where they're going and actually know what they want from it. Don't want different people trying to use it for everything. It's just so much of a magic plot device at the minute.
Hulking Reviewer also has a positive, 9/10 review of #3.
http://hulkingreviewer.com/home/reviews/aliens-life-or-death-3/ (http://hulkingreviewer.com/home/reviews/aliens-life-or-death-3/)
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pow chicka wow wow
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 15, 2016, 08:19:58 AM
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Why would it if it purpose seems to be to creates some sort of Alien-like creature?
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"seems" and "Alien-like".
These Aliens were spawned from LV-426, so a) who knows how far removed genetically and b) Aliens are an amalgam of Alien and human, so the human aspect is open to being affected. And c) who knows if Aliens are affected or not.
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Yeah. this was my thought as well. Even if the Aliens were created by using the Black Goo, an idea I totally hate, there's obviously going to be some genetic drift over the time based on the hosts of each generation leading to the Lv426 brood. I mean, just going by the leaked image of Covenant's eggs, the Aliens on Paradise are probably removed genetically by at least a bit.
A mutagen doesn't stop being mutagenic just because it mutated something or created something.
What I'd really like is if the Black Goo was created by the Engineers, using the Aliens biology, rather than the Aliens being made by certain others using the Black Goo.
Finally!
Really enjoyed that issue. This series has really picked up since issue 2 - was worried after issue 1 TBH.
I really like where this is going now (kinda touched on something I've personally experienced too - in a more human way mind).
I just read the third issue, and it was pretty decent. Something about it just didn't excite me, though. Can't really put my finger on it.
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I think maybe the art failed the big reveal of the stillborn xenos. That scene would have really benefitted from Juan Ferreyra or Tristan Jones art.
That being said, I'm interested, based on the AVP solicitations, to see how the whole "trying to keep the newborn queen away from the hive" angle plays out. I'm really hoping the Omega issue ends this arc with a bang. I feel like maybe when we get the inevitable sequel to Life and Death, there will be more for the writers to play with, given that Covenant will be out by then.
Just got the latest issue and it was actually my favorite so far. I felt more engaged than with any of the other issues, probably of the whole Life and Death series so far. I'm interested in seeing where this new concern for the xenos goes. I always love seeing new mutations in the comics, and I'm hoping something like that comes about. It would be interesting if:
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Chris births a new Queen mutation that will begin to make her mark on the brood through the up and coming AVP series
That would be pretty cool. Back when GWW interviewed Abnett he said there's one thing he was particularly proud of. I assume it hasn't happened yet, so I'm eager to see what comes ahead, especially in Omega.
Bleeding Cool has a preview of #4, and this one does contain a big spoiler, so be careful.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/12/08/exclusive-sneak-peek-aliens-life-death-4/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/12/08/exclusive-sneak-peek-aliens-life-death-4/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)
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It looks like the unexpected showdown teased on the solicitation will be the queen fighting the Engineer with the Marines. I want to see how that fight plays out, even if it's sure to remind us of the Queen teaming up with Delacroix and Big Mama in DotS.
I read #3 at the weekend. Just want to echo the sentiments of the others. It was alright. Kinda like the f**ked up Queen design but I still think the artwork is mostly all over the place.
And they're still playing with the accelerant effects. I really hope they've co-ordinated with the film makers so it doesn't end up being made redundant in the future.
It would be nice if they'd move away from it for future releases though. Prometheus opened up more for them to explore but no-one can move past the accelerant.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 13, 2016, 08:57:02 AM
I read #3 at the weekend. Just want to echo the sentiments of the others. It was alright. Kinda like the f**ked up Queen design but I still think the artwork is mostly all over the place.
And they're still playing with the accelerant effects. I really hope they've co-ordinated with the film makers so it doesn't end up being made redundant in the future.
It would be nice if they'd move away from it for future releases though. Prometheus opened up more for them to explore but no-one can move past the accelerant.
That's my thinking as well. I really think it will become non canon due to contradictions with future films. One of the reasons I love defiance so much is how well it blends with the established continuity.
For me, my continuity is, Prometheus > Alien > Alien: Isolation > Aliens: Defiance > Aliens > Alien 3
I really I think that everything else is too convulted to fit nicely and that, like we have said, these stories will become redundant.
Not sure how it'll contradict anything at this point. Where they went post-Prometheus isn't really anything Earth-shatteringly new. They largely take place on LV-223. The accelerant has varying affects in the film, so there's scope for further variations in Covenant.
And as sweet as Defiance is, in terms of continuity it does have a whacking great Auriga schematic in it a couple of hundred years early.
Quote from: SM on Dec 13, 2016, 11:57:55 PM
Not sure how it'll contradict anything at this point. Where they went post-Prometheus isn't really anything Earth-shatteringly new. They largely take place on LV-223. The accelerant has varying affects in the film, so there's scope for further variations in Covenant.
And as sweet as Defiance is, in terms of continuity it does have a whacking great Auriga schematic in it a couple of hundred years early.
If I remember correctly, the Auriga is an old ship. Like very old.
The Betty is old, the Auriga is new[ish].
Doesn't it state somewhere (novelization, maybe?) that the Auriga is actually pulled out of mothballs for the Alien project?
Quote from: Russ840 on Dec 14, 2016, 08:30:50 AMIf I remember correctly, the Auriga is an old ship. Like very old.
But saying it's as old as that would be like the Royal Navy dusting off HMS Victory and putting some scientists on board.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Dec 14, 2016, 10:05:18 AM
Quote from: Russ840 on Dec 14, 2016, 08:30:50 AMIf I remember correctly, the Auriga is an old ship. Like very old.
But saying it's as old as that would be like the Royal Navy dusting off HMS Victory and putting some scientists on board.
But it being in Defiance does not directly contradict anything stated in the movies so, for me, it fits nicely.
Of course it does.
'Cos you like Defiance but not Life & Death.
Quote from: SM on Dec 15, 2016, 11:58:26 AM
'Cos you like Defiance but not Life & Death.
So what makes you think that I do not like 'Life and Death' ?
The excision from your personal continuity.
Quote from: SM on Dec 15, 2016, 08:28:29 PM
The excision from your personal continuity.
Just because I don't include it in what 'I' favour as continuity does not me I don't like it. I think it's weaker than other entries to the AVP universe as a whole so far but I am enjoying it. Same as I enjoyed 'Fire and Stone' enough to Buy the Hardcover edition.
Any other assumptions you would like to make ?
Nope. I'm good, thanks.
Hulking Reviewer has a positive review of #4. There aren't too many spoilers, but beware if you want to go in blind.
http://hulkingreviewer.com/home/reviews/aliens-life-and-death-4/ (http://hulkingreviewer.com/home/reviews/aliens-life-and-death-4/)
I just read #4 on digital, and it was OK.
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The story is just what you would expect. That being said, what we see of the fight between the queen and the Engineer was very cool. I'm looking forward to the AVP series. It will be good to have Ahab back in a larger role.
I'll have to try and pick up my copy before the weekend.
I'm looking forward to AvP too, Ultra but I think more so that I can see Thies' artwork again.
I picked up #4 last week. Was ok, nothing too special. I'm going to wait to judge the whole though, when all the series' are out and we see the big picture. I still hate the artwork in the Aliens run though. Really struggle with it. So glad Thies is back for the next run.
I'll have #4 today, yeah it's some of the worst aliens art ever put to page.
Aliens L&D ranks right in there with the terrible art of Aliens Lovesick, Aliens Female War, Aliens Inhuman Condition, and Prometheus L&D
Agreed. Though I do give Inhuman Condition a pass based on the character revelations towards the end.
Anyone think that Earth War/Female war would benefit from being Reprinted in black and white ?
The Alien art in Earth War was pretty decent. The inking and pretty much everything else - not so much.
I'm just amazed that this comic managed to make
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a fight between a chair-suit Engineer and an alien queen
so uninteresting.