There’s a couple of new UK AvP Requiem reviews. The first is in the News of the World (There’s also a scan of the newspaper article here.) and another one on Empire. Both are very negative and they give it 1/5.
The box office totals so far are $40,081,000 domestic and $36,536,503 foreign giving a total of $76,617,503. Lastly, if you’re in the UK, switch on to FilmFour tonight. They’re showing Alien at 9PM, then a five-minute AvPR preview at 11:10PM and then Predator 2 at 11:15PM. Thanks to kcirtap33 for the news.
Update: More reviews at TotalFilm (2/5), TimOut (1/6) and Manchester Evening News (2/5).
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That sucks... :'(
lol
hmm who can argue with the british :D
That is terrible.
You have to take into account that Chris Hewitt, from Empire, can be a little... extreme... in his views. He loved Underworld, but utterly SLAMMED the sequel... despite the sequel improving on the first. Also note that the new "film critic" for TNOTW berates a Predator... FOR BEING A PREDATOR. He's only marking it down so as to look "smart" and to be accepted by "serious" critics. Movies out Friday! Roll on Friday! ;D
I do not listen to the press... >:(
Sad to hear Empire gave it such a shit review, I really respect them. Oh wells, still watching it Saturday.
But 'Underworld' was great and 'Underworld Evolution' really was crap. :) It improved upon it, only in the visual realm, which was already good. In terms of story and logic, it fell on its face. Who does stuff like build a prison never meant to be opened, then have a key built, only to surgically implant it in their ribs, for heaven's sake? I loved the first. Sequel really disappointed me.
"Also note that the new "film critic" for TNOTW berates a Predator... FOR BEING A PREDATOR. He's only marking it down so as to look "smart" and to be accepted by "serious" critics." I agree with you on that, I liked it, so sue me.
very disappointing. i was Waiting for the empire review as they seem to know what they are talking about(most of the time). unfortunately it looks like our favourite monsters are done for.
That's pretty bad. :(
@Xenomorphine Both Underworld films are great. Len Wiseman is a great director the actors in UE are better than AVPR. I know you are a AVP fan I know what you feel. But man you can't compare AVPR with UE. I like AVPR but Underworld is much better. :) :)
I thought Underworld Evolution was great. Much better than the first.
JK is right Xenomorphine, you can't compare Underworkd to AVP. To me, Underworld, both sucked. I just didn't like them. I love wear wolfs, and I bearly got them. I got vampires, who I don't like as much. I wish I couls do the same with Underworld with what I do with AVP. I love both Aliens and Predator, and everything about them, not the same with vampires and wear wolfs. I only like Wear Wolfs. I can't see any more being able to be compard to to any of the AVP movies or Alien or Predator movies except themselfs.
I used to care what star rating Empire gave films but the fact that they gave Spider-man 3 more than one star lost me.
Seeing the 5 min preview on TV was weird, like glimpse into the future
the guy who wrote the news of the world review is one serious asshole.i wouldnt trust his reviews if it meant having an optypupalrecaloptomy (its an eye operation but they go in through the rectum)lol
That is the worst review ever!!!! That guy spoke about the stuff your not meant to see AVPR for lol What a dumb shit. I hope he gets rapped in the face by a dog rotflmfao
Wait so we're not meant to see a coherent plot, believable acting, or passable visuals in AvP 2?
Guys the movie is a huge improvement on the first, but it wont win any special effects or acting awards. Were we really expecting it to now? After nearly 30 yrs? Hmmmm............just go see the damn movie and make up your own minds.
I'm not comparing these two films. I'm saying the reviewer would have been justified in saying teh original was great and that, by comparison, the sequel was crap. I felt exactly the same, when I reviewed them. 'Underworld evolution' had far too many problems (a main character being pointlessly zapped out of the story for ages, the villain killing everyone who would have willingly helped them, for no apparent reason and so on), but 'Underworld' was fantastic. It was one of those things which had a huge amount of potential and squandered it for nice visuals.
I love it when EMPIRE reviews films, they give 300 3 stars whilst saying it's only good when in fact it ruled, Transformers got 4 stars then like EMPIRE do they minused 1 star to give it 3, on DVD They said Die Hard 4.0 was the second best action film of the summer, then on DVD gave it 2 stars saying it was kid friendley (p.s they reviewed the unrated DVD) now i dont care what they give a film I mean they gave Crouching Tiger 5 stars and that was shit while Hero only got 4, and that was f**kin fantastic.
i think its mainly the younger audience that thought avpr was a good movie hense why all the reviews were bad
I've yet to see a complaint on the fact that he gave away the ending off-the-cuff. I loathe when reviewers and previews show the end of a movie.
lets get us a posse
Why are some of you surprised at these bad reviews?
LoL if i directed AvP 2, you guys would be like " MAN f**kING AWESOME CHECK IT OUT!!! "
lol his reiew is spot on as they say , you cant polish a turd no matter how hard u rub
Further proof to fanboys that the movies wasn't so hot. If you think it was that great, you have to be in denial...
Couldn't find the link to the empire review so - http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=135355
Shit man..... 1/5...this stinks AvP R is a great movie.It deserves more.
Look there will most likely be an uncut or unrated DVD which will boost the profits. Just go see the movie and stop bitching about the negative reviews, it's not the end of the world!!
just the end of aliens and predator in the movies :'(
im sure i ll love the film due to the special effects & being an alien fan freak. but think the brothers may have destroyed the franchise if you take into account all the awful reviews :( heres hoping it makes enough money to redeem the franchise with a better AVP3! wish the brothers had got James Gunn in to do the script (DAWN OF DEAD remake & SLITHER) he's great with characters, humour & horror!
TOTAL FILM REVIEW - 2/5 http://www.totalfilm.com/cinema_reviews/films_out_this_week/aliens_vs_predator_requiem
I think we can´t rely totally on movie reviews...We can take for ouselfs some of the ideas that what the movie is going to be like. The reviews can be just as heterogeneous as the fans taste in movies. So, go see it and judge it for yourself! About directing, with only $40milion there isn´t much you can do... I hope the box office performance reaches at least $100milion. I think it will. The question is: Will that be enouph for Fox to realise that if properly invested, this franchise can raise at least three times the budget money...
Worldwide Gross is over $93,000,000 already. http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/2007/AVSP2.php
I don't care what any reviews give the movie, i'm still gonna buy it on blu-ray because i'm a devoted fan that's all i need to know And if some of you guys agree with me then we dfinitaly will get an AVP3 :)
Amen Predhunter.
some of you that are berating the new movie just how long have you truely been fans? I can remember seeing alien on the big screen
In fact I have seen all of the series alien and predator on the big screen and you know what I think that out of all of them personally Alien Ressurection was the worst but that is my opinion
so to be a fan of somthing you have to be there at it conception srry i also like janis joplin but she died before i could be born the point is we who like the franchise WILL go/gone and see the film(we still dont have to like it because its part of what we like) .the point of the critic is to explain to those who dont have as much interest. is to give them an overview of what to expect .so the comment on this site will always sway more in favour of the movie i myself thought 300 was pants as well and ive been reading franks novellas since they put them in print so does tht mean im a fan or the fact i like somthing diffrent to take my interest or are you trying to make the fan point like those people who are trekkies and take it a weee bit too far to the point u sit around the house with a styrofoam penis on ur head ,sprayed black of course ;D
"Worldwide Gross is over $93,000,000 already" If AvP:R reaches $120 milion box office ( i think it might be possible), that would be...three times the budget! Not bad for a so called crappy movie made especially for fans...
You can truly be a fan and still berate the new movie. Do you remember what was great about the originals? That stuff isn't in the last two movies. Characterization, suspense, consistency, it's all gone. We don't even get a good look at the creatures because this film is so murky. We got the Predator homeworld, for what's that is worth. But even that doesn't make much sense. I'm not going to get into specifics because I don't want to spoil it for our friends across the pond. What I'm trying to say, I guess, is that you should go see this because you like aliens or predators. But don't go because you think this is going to be a good movie. It just isn't. (I'll still buy it when it comes out on DVD and I'll even hold out for a Director's Cut, even though I know it won't make it better. I'm a fan, but crap is crap.)
The movie is an insult to the Alien franchise, and it deserves to be torn apart by fans and critics.
@nevermind True,maybe fox will realize we need an alien movie a proper Alien movie!!
It's funny that the brothers say fox is happy with the film? They are crazy to actually be leave the studio heads. If the do think the heads are telling the truth I have a bridge in Brooklyn I can sell them.
...by Ridley or Cameron pleaaaaase!
well I guess for me I would have to say my own personal definition of a true fan would be someone that takes the good with the bad and still remains loyal. we cant always have what we want or have it the way we think it should be. I can think of hundreds of worse movies than AvP-R and hundreds of them that are better but I personally will take what I can get on the big screen.
After the rest of the european releases and DVD sales, you'd expect it to reach at least $120 million, the optimist might go as far as 150
No Han. When you go see a movie called Aliens vs Predator, what are you going to see, Clash of the Titans or Good night and Good Lucke??? If you think about it because films can only be as long as the studio wants it, your not gonna have enough room for all this character development for every character. Well you can, but then u'll barely get any Alien or Predator. Think about it. Alien and Predator, both movies. We didn't see Predator until like the ending of the film. We didn't get a good look at Alien until close to the ending leading onto the exact ending. But we got character development in them. Now when you put both creatures in one movie, your gonna have to split it, for Aliens, Predator and Humans. Movies are not games, and there not comics that go on for so many books and there not toys where you can play with them as much as you want. Its a movie. Both AVP 1and 2 were not signed for sequels. AVPR spawned from doing great in box-office. But it still was not that good. I think some ppl still belived that for this one so it doesn't have, or didn't before have as much. You want to know where the developmeant came from in AVPR, the Predator Wolf. He was our hero, and Chet the Predalien was our villain. We know how a Pred acts, and we still got more of how they are. We know why he took his mask off in P1 to fight arni, we know that Preds are more loyal to each other then before.
We know what there way of life is soo much better. Aliens...we know what there like. Just watch A1, A2, A3, AR, AVP and AVPR. We know what there like. We don't need to feel for the humans that much. I mean the only pp I felt bad for were the homeless guys. What were they doing that made you want them dead? The ppl i feel bad for are the ones not on screen. The town pretty much. What did any of these ppl in the town do to deserve to die?? Suddenly they get killed by Chet and her/his army and new family. All this movie did was get the Preds and Aliens right. Humans...who cares really? Do you care. Would you rather see the whole movie of humans with hints of Aliens and Preds fighting. Would you want an AVP movie filmed like Cloverfield?? Okay, I'm done.
Look at the Resident Evil trilogy... the first was average/poor then there was 'Apocalypse' which was awful but still spawned a slightly improved 'Extinction'... due to box office figures... i'd love another alien or alien vs' film no matter how bad or good... I CAN'T WAIT TILL AVP-R IS RELEASED IN THE UK also i'm v glad the merchandise for AVPR is 100 times better than AVP...(NECA/Sideshow rule! McFarlane sucks!) ;D ;D ;D
m,
I dont care about the reviews.i will judge the film when i see it.As long as you enjoy it who cares.obviosaly it was never gonna be a classic.just enjoy the movie and relax
Jesus christ dont you people have better things to do with your time than bag reviews and constantly say ooh this movie was crap? Seriously guys the movie is just a movie but sure its not as good as Aliens or Predator but it is better than AvP. If you actually support the franchise you will go see AvPR and stop bitching about half-assed reviews that a 10 yr old kid could do better.
loyal fans won't even bother with this crud the strause brothers have really messed this up,total losers, fox must of been mad hiring that pair of doughnuts ,basically what a load of crap! >:D
lets face it, all these critcs are paid to give bad scores on movies and i bet my bottom dollar that 85% of them arent a fan of either of the franchises. i saw the movie twice, im a big predator fan and i would like to see more predator movies and i know that all the alien fans want to see more alien movies and by the sounds of things theyre making good money considering its only the second film hopfully who evers holding the money will realise that there is a real fanbase behind both franchises provided that they find the right directors and how about getting some big name actors in the mix to get more people intersted in the franchises. theres a million ways this new franchise can go and even more for either franchises to go it alone, i really hope that this isnt the last we see of the predator movies or the aliens, these two creature give me a different thrill like no other especially the first movie with arnold still today i can watch it over and over what other sci/fi flix do that? ill leave you with closing, "all future alien cretures in movies will be compared to alien and the predator! peace out hope you all have a good new year!
" Did the IQ drop while I was away ? " How much more bad reviews both from professionals and moviegoers like us, will take for everyone to realise that AVP-R is a complete failure!!! The movie is a window for FOX to show us how to make a really bad movie! C'mon guys, be honest did any of this 2 AVP movies left you with the same experience after watching them, similar of the ones everybody gets after ALIEN, ALIENS and Predator? Ps: I've watched it. If you are real fans, boicote this movie and force FOX to spend real efforts in making one with decent and renowned professionals.
Johnathan ross (british critic) has said 'AVP-R is a massive step up from its flat original, the characters are given care and the action is great, however his only problem is sometimes that ir can be difficult to see whats going on' a positive review, woo hoo
!SHOCK! ;D Britain's only mainstream film programme BBC's 'Film2008' just gave AVPR a good review! "...a big step up from AVP... " YAY... finally!
lol jonothan ross is also a comedian remember loool
haha i forgot that ;)
"If you actually support the franchise you will go see AvPR and stop bitching about half-assed reviews that a 10 yr old kid could do better." Well I didn't support this movie because I don't want this series to rape the originals any further, and I didn't want Fox getting my money.
trailpimp: be honest did any of this 2 AVP movies left you with the same experience after watching them, similar of the ones everybody gets after ALIEN, ALIENS and Predator? ____________________________________________ _ Yes. I am being honest. Yes it did give me the same feeling, if not then a better feeling. It felt like a crossover, not a copy of Aliens and Predator. Those were used for inspiration. So yes, I did feel the dam f**king way. Ppl like you who show up thinking your a repspected smuck thinking you know what makes a great movie. You want a great movie, go look at One Flew Over the Cooku's Nest. You want a great old time monster movie go look at the old King Kong. I agree with Joker here, what did you all expect, Good Night and Good Luck, or Clash of the Titans?!
theclash, that is the most stupidist thing I have ever heard. Everyone says it. "Oh I want to make sure FOX doesn't get anymore money for ruining my fav movie. I sold my kids so i could buy all of them in one box on blue-ray DVD" Blah blah blah blah-f**king blah!!! Suck it the f**k in already!!
Joker calm down a bit. Why are you getting angry over these little mommy f**kers for anyway? Do you like the movie? Great. Can you force them to like it? Well if you had a gun to there heads maybe but in real life, no. Don't get angry and turn into these sorry saps. Atleast you and I like the movie and those other guys too we spoke too on new years. Really I don't think they should be here anymore if all there gonna do is yell at ppl for liking a movie they hate. It's like there job or something haha You and I both know AVPR was good. Do they have to know that? No, but we do sooooo f**k em.
One point everyone needs to take into account is that making a movie of this kind is going to be the hardest thing even the greatest and number one director today would have trouble and critisism with! i thought the movie was above average and a tad under good, my real thoughts on this is that the first avp movies story line was good with the right of passage from young blood to warrior to elder and so forth, the movie wasnt great but as the fan i am i still liked it. now with the next movie "IF THERE EVER WILL BE", why not bring the two directors who first brought these two creatures to our screens togather for co-production, look at the benefits it brings! who knows the aliens better then the first alien director Ridley Scott? who knows the pred better then John McTiernan and with the budget that this movie deserves then at least we know that the two ppl that brought them two us will live, breath, eat and make us believe in this new movie franchise. IF THESE TWO CANT DO IT THEN I KNOW IT CANT BE DONE! ps just be happy we got another movie there may not ever be another one if all we hear is the negatives!!! i liked it and id go and watch it again a 3rd time in a heart beat thats how much im a fan im not worried wat critics have to say. so why are you......
Joker I just want you to know that your opinion really matters to me. No seriously, it does. I'm not being sarcastic. You're obviously a highly intelligent guy, and I'm sure lots of people take you seriously. Enjoy AvP R.
wow. so many comments. fans still cannot accept the idea that they were f**ked by comix-loving-fox again. thats your fate, stupid yautja-dnareflex children. to eat shit forever.
What did you expect??? A shitty film gets shitty reviews. It's so simple. Only biased fans can say that this film is alright. But it's fact, that the fight scenes, the cuts, the story and the characters sucks.
ok clash did you see the f**king movie or not? goddamn you all think youre so f**king self righteous because you put the movie down and make out as though youre the next f**king james cameron or ridley scott. Where do you get off man its a movie so stop whining about it like a 10 yr old and do something constructive with your time.
I"f you are real fans, boicote this movie and force FOX to spend real efforts in making one with decent and renowned professionals" I can understand that some Alien fans (and perhaps predator too) feel they have been some how deceived by the promisses this latest movie brought with. But, if you "boycott" this movie ( i think you should go see it and make you own judgement) and don´t go see it, you will be contributing to box office failiure. If that happens, and don´t be mistaken about this, Fox won´t even consider making another one, not even if they´re presented with the best script ever made!!! Making movies is a business as many others wherin are RISKS to be taken due to considerable investments being made allmost every day. Like every company it should be healthy! So, let´s not disapoint then, shall we?? They have realised by now that the AvP Franchise is a safe value when it comes to RISKS of a doubtful investment. The first AvP came up with $171milion (box office performance) with a $60milion budget. The second, with a $40milion budget, made so far near $100milion, and it should reach about $120milion... I´m a fan of both franchises Alien and Predator, and i hope that FOX has the good common sense of investing properly in the third movie of this (with highly potencial ) franchise!
Let´s not forget that both AvP movies had A LOT of bad reviews and still could deliver those amounts of money. Now you ask: What happens if this franchise has a properly Directing, supported by a decent and solid budget? Two things: One, all the fans will go see it and will advise their friends and family to do the same...Two, and the mostly important, a properly directed movie will cause a generally favorable opinion by the Media about the movie, and so, if anyone at that time is sceptical about seing it ( fan or not), he/she will change their minds. Perhaps ( i meant for sure) this franchise would raise more fans to the cause...
I say get Paul Verhoeven to make a third film, Verhoeven knows sci-fi (total recall/robocop/starship troopers) violence (all his films) and wall to wall action (all his films except black books) so i say give it to him.
yeah but Paul Verhoneven has a habit of making the hero or protagonist look way to cheesy in my book... granted all of those movies were entertaining and good quality. I would truely like to see James Cameron and Ridely Scott do an AvP movie. I could think of a lot of directors that would and could do a great job I think that the problem is with the movies is that they are trying to tell such a big story in such a short time. I have said it befor and I will say it again. The movie was never made for everyone. It was made for the AvP fans. It's not really for Alien fans and not really for Predator fans. I think if you are like me and I have been an AvP fan since Dark Horse first introduced the idea. I love the idea of two alien races battling it out and what two better races could we pick Oh I got it maybe they should make a aliens vs. the bugs off starship troopers ( lol ) ha ha ha or maybe they should make a pedator vs. Klingons. Give it a rest already and take the film as entertainment. if you don't like it fine you are entitled to your opinion but dont let you negativity ruin what might be an otherwise enjoyable movie for someone else let them decide for themselves.
This movie is an insult to Scott, Cameron, Fincher and McTiernans movies. It is trash not worth pissing on
I cant believe people accept that this is what theyve spent their money on??!? The movie is tripe of the highest degree. UTILISE MODERN TECHNOLOGY! What the hell is the point in shooting a film like you would back in the 80's/70's, in the 21st Century!? I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND IT?!?!!! I really hate that Alien and Predator are associated with this mile high pile of crap. The first AVP is a shining masterpiece of glittering gold compared to this waste of money, celluloid and ultimately, the fans time. If you agree, please say so!!
"But, if you "boycott" this movie ( i think you should go see it and make you own judgement) and don´t go see it, you will be contributing to box office failiure. If that happens, and don´t be mistaken about this, Fox won´t even consider making another one, not even if they´re presented with the best script ever made!!!"" That's precisely the idea. I don't want another one of these crappy films, especially if Fux brings the freakin Strauses back. They're the worst thing to happen to this series. I'd rather have no films than crap films that tarnish the series and turn it into a joke.
Not sure if it's already been mentioned but please note how the NOTW review actually uses the exact same dialogue quotes as the Total Film review. ... Doubt the NOTW guy has even seen it in that case.
face it. The avp movies arent that good! The creatures and the films themselves aren't scary anymore- at all. Fox messed up from the start by giving them crappy storylines, crappy budgets, and cast/directors who arent top notch- for the originals were top notch.
Deco....wow...just wow. I'm gonna take Gort Preds advise and not get angry with you, but what you said is just.....stupid.
TO CLASH: Thanks uhh...haha thank you. I don't want to offend you if I ever do. I don't want to do that shit to ppl even if they don't like the same films as I do. Tell me if I wind up doing that. And I will enjoy AVP-R. And you enjoy...what ever your fav movie is :)
Joker These guys are saying everything about avpr that I said about avp years ago. Never the less I liked avpr and still despise the first one, I'll argue that till I'm dead like our beloved franchises! Buy the extended edition dvd, it may be a little better. 8)
look the movie is cap at best, call us whiners or say we're bitchin, wateva...if u like the film then good 4 u, if u think its up their with the original alien and predator then ur wrong and thats a fact...its mainly the younger audience that enjoyed this movie
If only this was treated like a clash of the titans...
AMEN PREDHUNTER IM WITH YOU ON THAT ONE!!!
i hate to say, but avp3 should be put on hold, so they can make predator 3.
"That's precisely the idea. I don't want another one of these crappy films, especially if Fux brings the freakin Strauses back. They're the worst thing to happen to this series." So, you rather be in denile than giving the benifit of the doubt...And you rather separate the two creatures and make two separate franchises...Well, i have to say, in my opinion, if some of you (or a lot) think the creatures are no longer scary, you might be right. These two movies didn´t have scary (and sometimes disgusting) scenarios, which was a main charecteristic of Alien movies...But, the thrill of seing them in action, will be lost if FOX chooses to eliminate this franchise. It will be not only a sense of dej
Remember, the script and the quality of the actors mirrors the amout of money invested in any movie. So, without an adequate investment, there are no good/masterpiece movies. Specially on this case which is a merge of two franchises, it should be (theoretically) twice has expensive! Let´s not have a short view on this, shall we?? AvP movies are indeed made for fans, but i think it could be more then that! It´s own potencial allied to a good story and cast, would convince not only the fans, but also people which have never watched any AvP movies! It has (i´m taking the risk of not being modest) what it takes to turn out an icon of Scfi-Horror movies!!
Predhunter I couldn't have said it better myself You know that FOX isn't going to dish out the money needed to make the movie extraordinary. They have to many other cash cows out there they are trying to exploit. I sometimes wonder what they would be like if someone that usually puts big money into a movie were to tackle the franchise again. and as for Requiem I have to say that the Strausse bros. first attempt at a movie could have been a whole lot worse than this.
Oh and I might add to the coments of these movies not being scary anymore I know that they lack the luster of the earlier ones but the Pedator movies were never scary to me. and the part that saying that there wasn't any horror in AvP-R I would have to say that those that say that obiously don't have children ... otherwise a couple (not a lot but a couple) of scenes in the hospital are rather disturbing. If you look at it there is an air of subliminal horror to it. where they hint at something but dont show it. but you dont see or hear them threw the rest of the movie.
I guess the IQ really dropped while I was away! Acording to predhunter both AVP, 'cause of the ratio investment/box office earnings, or in other words low budjet high revenue makes this franchise, somehow, a platform for an even better AVP 3. Why the hell Fox, after the first AVP didn't learn what failed with it and made AVP R a serious movie project with real world budjet, with acomplished staff? It's because they know that for two cents they could make a movie that a lot of the so called fanboys would see no matter its quality. Because these same fanboys go to extreme lengths apologyse the poor production of this sudio regarding AVP with the premise that at least the monsters are back on the silver screen. Alien, Aliens and Predator haven't already opened the door to serious production when it comes to AVP?
So everyone that hates AvP-R are you saying that Alien3 and Ressurection were good movies? Because personally I think Alien3 sucked and was alltright with the first 2/3rds of Ressurection, but they weren't all that good either. I mean how many times can you bring back Ripley for Christ's sake. Are you saying that that is more believable. I would like to see another AvP movie but would really rather see them do another Predator movie instead. there are several scenarios that would work for a new movie of either franchise, but getting a good script and the funding and right director for the job is a must. for instance how far away from the settlement in Aliens was the Space Jockey wreckage and if it was more than 35 kilometers isn't it quite possible for the eggs inside to still be intact. Why instead of going after Ripley in Alien3 and Ressurection did they not go back and check. and if they did why haven't they said anything about it in the movies or any of the litterature that I own and have read.
It´s very simple...The first AvP movie was a totaly new concept on screen. It had the "factor astonishment" behind it. So, it made a considerabilly amout af money, taking into acount its budget. But, was this a reason to think like "It´s in the bag! It´s like taking candy from a baby!"? No, and that´s where FOX went wrong. Obviously they tried to make the franchise even more profitable, by making a even more cheaply second movie! When i´m saying decent budget, i´m not refering to a super production, wherin are invested $200milion. We all now that´s not going to happen! All i´m saying is that the budget should be higher then $60 milion, not to say $40milion! This is not a popular franchise like Jurassic Park, so it´s needed twice hard work to attract some atention into it. But i think that is possible!! I hope that FOX realises before it´s too late, that if the third movie really comes to life, it must be convincing!!
JOKER Why o why would anyone get angry? Its like im personally offending you by saying the movie is pure crap. Im a huge fan of Alien and Predator and I just thought this movie was one of the worst movies ive ever seen. Not the worst of the Alien and Predator franchise, literally the worst film ive EVER seen. I find it hard to believe that you were satisfied leaving the theatre after having paid to see the movie. Im from Ireland and it costs nearly 10 Euros to see a film over here. I wont pay that to see AVP, im glad I watched it online and saved my money. People are being forced to 'settle' for movies like this because the majority of fans are happy to even see that the franchises are being kept alive. WELL IM SORRY IF I WANT SOMETHING I HOLD IN HIGH REGARD TO DIE WITH DIGNITY IF IT CANT BE TREATED WITH SOME SORT OF RESPECT! (the original work in the franchise), Anyone who thinks this movie was in any-way worthy of this franchise needs to re-assess their 'FANDOM'
GOD AVPr WAS CRAP. Lets talk about how great the fighting was! Oh wait, couldnt make out the fight scenes because somone turned off all the lights.... What a scam
The fact that Fox cut the first films budget in HALF to make its sequel, shows how much they respect the franchise. I refuse to buy into this money making scam. To those trashing the Bros Strause: To be fair, the directors arent really the major problem here (although they didnt help thats for sure). The issue was the script. WHAT THE FOCK were fox thinking when they read this script. They certainly werent blown away by it and if they were, they need to get new readers. Talking about this movie makes me angry because I have been fooled by its mighty trailer. Peace to all
Its kind of funny how people have different points of view on this. I went to AvP-R with my wife and teenage son and my wife hated it and my son and I liked it ( not saying loved it ) but liked it. I do think alot of it needed work and some of the settings needed alot of help. Me being from Montana and the Rocky mountains and knowing what these mountains look like it didn't like the forests that were used in it they were too wet. just showing another movie was made in Vancuver and the northern rainforests of that reagion. and on the whole lighting thing. Yeah it was dark, it was also set at night on a rainy night and in a sewer ( I dont know where you all have been but the sewers I have seen generally dont have good lighting. I could literally tear this movie apart piece by piece giving the whole pros and cons on each five mins but why bother. sure it wasnt the greatest but i liked it better than Spiderman 3, and I am legend. and as to the statements "worst movie ever" you all need to watch a few more movies because I can give you hundreds of movies I have paid money to see and were far worse than this.
As I've been trying to say- Fox f**ked up from the beginning w/ crappy budget/production/ script, director and cast- It can't and won't be fixed- the world would stop turning if someone like R. Scott, or Cameron even thought about fixing it.
Actually AvPR is mainly the Strauses's fault. They rewrote a lot of Salerno's script, so they have to take a lot of the blame for the dialogue and characters. Also they didn't even direct their actors to actually ACT, their effects were lousy, and the movie itself reeked of ameteurism.
I think its just such a shame. AVP is a hugely epic concept.
These critics arnt fans its not about the acting or script its the creatures this film is made for fans .Im a fan and to me somthing is better then nothing.I love predator and this film looks really good for me .
Uh actually it is about the acting, the script, and the direction. That's what the originals were about, especially the Alien series. This is where true fans differ from fanboys. True fans agree with the above, fanboys just lap up whatever shit Fox gives them. No offense.
I agree THE CLASH I would love to see a BATMAN BEGINS happen with AVP. A total revamp. Chuck all but the basic rules out the window and start from scratch. Anderson and the Strause Bros have just been two entities that tried to mimic what the masters did with these franchises. While I love and respect Scott/Cameron and McTiernans movies, I cant help but think what an AVP film would be like if they broke away from the originals. Pred and Alien are entirely different films and instead of trying to combine both ambiances and touch on every aspect from the originals, they should create an entirely new take on the coming together of both creatures. EG; I mean what is the deal with shooting as much as possible in camera!? People thought it was great to hear that Anderson and the Bros Strause were doing this because thats how the masters did it back in the 79 with Alien and 87 with Predator. The masters shot those films the way they could with the best tools they had at the time! Inexperienced directors tackling a feat like this just results in AVPR- Unprofessional and truely dated work. I think the Franchises need to grow yes, but not if FOX arent willing to give two of their biggest money makers, the respect it deserves, otherwise (and this is where being a true fan comes in) i would rather they let each franchise die with the very little dignity it has left.
Well, i can only speak for myself... I liked AvP:R (it means okay and not good or great), mostly because i think it´s better than the first one. There were actually fighting in this movie! The rest of it was just shitty like the first one, except it wasn´t PG-13...But i must say, if i wasn´t a fan, i would probably call it crap!! If FOX intend to make a third movie, its trailers and first reviews better be convincing, because i won´t even bother seing another poor AvP movie!!
Of course it is not the best movie ever. I have to admit that I went to watch it with so low expectation that I even enjoy it. But I would hardly give it a 3/10. The problem is that the budget is ridiculous for this kind of film. (OK...one of the problems). All the FX budget has gone to the predalien, the worst desig in the series, only matched by the newborn. But in my opinion the warriors are the worst by far in all series...A big rubber suit. I think that they darkened the movie at the end to avoid show them too much. They look worse that anything ADI has done before. SPOILER: Please remember the warrior entry at the cafe kitchen door on the first predalien impregnation, and when they cross the grate on the sewer.
About the story... The predator arrives to Earth in hours (and I am not even counting the time for the distress message to arrive Predator homeplanet) Why do they have sleeping chambers on the big ship? Just to take naps between hunts? Nobody sees the ship crashing but the hunters and -I guess- the bad people at the army? How fast did the aliens grew? The predalien reproductive method is quite innefective...How many pregnant women were on Gunnison? And how do the alien embryos kill the foetus without killing the mother on the process (anatomy, anyone?) And so on... The script...Ridiculous sentences, but this is part of the game. It didnt shock me much. Action scenes...short and dark, but I think that the budget plays it part here. I would not blame much the direction here, but maybe they should have some resources here to solve the problem.
The conclusion: They will made AVP3, as they will made enough money... But they will made it even cheaper Or they will remade the first...Rob Zombie Alien
Saw it today This is a bad, bad film. Sorry to say and I fear a rather large nail in the coffin for the franchise. I realise you might like this but just being honest. Its a sad day for both franchises and something I really enjoy seems to be gone forever now!!! Cheers and no death threats please
Just seen avp and its not as bad as these bloody reviewers make it.i thouroughly enjoyed it,so dont be put off by these muppets.it is far better than the last effort by that twat anderson,a bit dark in places but good entertainment
If FOX intend to make a third movie, it will be necessary to make some effort to put some credibility into this franchise... I hope they really find someone for the task...Oh, and with a budget between ($80-$100)milion! The bidding has started...
3 hours and counting till i see it... not expecting much to be honest but still cant wait!!! ;D :o
shedboy how old r u please if u dont mind saying?
Maybe Fox should sell the rights of this franchises to Warner...
i thought AVP-R was pretty good at least it was rated R with alot of blood and gore but it would been better with a better script and a better orginal cast like in Alien, Aliens, Alien 3, Alien Resurrection, and both Predator and Predator 2. however it is a hell alot better than paul anderson's wimp movie. i would give AVP-R 4.5 stars and i hope to see a director's cut of it when it comes to dvd.
hey im a fan not a fanboy i know that they can never make a film as good as the original predator i meen look at the people in it .Thats why i said this film is for fans not critics .I just saw it and really liked it up into the hospital that turned me off a bit there was no need for those scenes.I really loved the predator in it ,I think ian white got as close as you can get to the great keven peter hall good job . I also liked his hyper punch ,i think if they followed the predator more and got rid of some of the scenes in the hospital it would be a worthy sucsessor to predator 2. oh theclash i can see why you where dissapointed it could of been better.
Great film, my only gripes is that the Aliens are cannon fodder & the sucky ending. Other than that, I don't get the bad press.
Just back from seeing AvpR in the uk. The hall was fairly busy. No where near as bad as the reviews. i went in half expecting it to be a total wash out but i quite enjoyed it.my only gripes would be that it really did seem rushed, especially the beginning and it wasnt long enough. Wasnt too keen on the predalien and its growls. On the plus side it was great hearing the Aliens sound effects, Thats how the creatures are meant to sound. It was also great going back to the man in suit creatures rather than the cgi. Definately not the worst film ive ever seen, would watch it over resurrection or AVP any day. shame the critics dont like it, i could be doing with an alien prequel next though . No more AvP. 3.5 out of 5
its no where near as bad as the reviews say.i quite enjoyed it.
XENOMORPH ALIEN Im not going to diss the fact that you like the movie, thats your own opinion and I respect that but let me give you a fact: This script wasnt remotely half as good as Andersons awfulscript. At least Anderson TRIED and failed/ He used a little imagination. No effort went in here which makes it worse than Andersons movie... I didnt like the movie, I do like tiny elements of it. Like when the Predator is walking along the bridge in the Nuclear power plant and the Alien is stalking beneath him. At this rate if FOX make a trilogy (which I hope they dont because theyve stripped both franchises of its dignity), they should sell the rights. Although at this stage, who would buy them??
if you are lookin for depth in a movie forget it. If you like a bit of escapism and some alien action then its worth a shot. the power plant bit was good.
Hi guys, I just turned 10 and saw avpr, I really liked the pizza delivery kid and Dale. They rock!!! I hope they make more avp movies!
Im glad a new genaration likes it as i said its a good film i would like to see a predator 3 or avp3 set in the past .They should of done beowulf but with the predator as grendal somthing like that.
well that sucks but that Pred alien was a praetorian "young queen"
Gul Kalvo the predalien didnt impregnate only pregnant woman. look at the hobo lady in the sewer and the girl in the diner sulaco you liked the pizza guy and the guy who kicked his ass? what a weirdo. did you like the movie? since the aliens and preds were kinda the main point not the worthless humans
Chaz/ I'm throwing out bait to piss the haters off, no luck tonight.. I'm not 10, more like 29 and yes I actually liked the movie, some cool ideas just not executed correctly. 7/10.. long time fan!
lol sulaco i should have known you were jokin my gripe was the lighting. i know it was suppose to be dark, at night, in a sewer, and a power outage but the lighting should have been better. im sure the dvd will correct some of it i agree 7/10 for me. avp was like a 4/10 so avp r IMO was much better. i hope avp3 goes into the future maybe after alien or aliens and the involve the marines. my oh my just like the video games
I heard theres some kind of filter on the big screen, so people don't pirate it, maybe that's why it was a little too dark. Yeah I hate avp so much, worse acting, worse story, worse music, overuse cgi, pg13, {predator, human team up} you name it! F*ck these avpr haters. Peace Chaz!!!
saw the film last night... how awful was the script?! apart from that i really enjoyed the film! effects were great tho a lil hard to see. the predalien was a great design (far far far better than the newborn, which people keep comparing it to?!) i've just got the making of AVPR book and to be honest its the best version they designed. loved the new pred rape tho didnt quite understand why it only happened to females? the film was much better than AVP & i don't quite get why all the critics have been giving it such low reviews. apart from the script & some dodge acting its a good movie... me thinks 3.5 out of 5... bring on AVP3...
Deco thanks dude for respecting my opinion about the movie. i do agree what you said too. the acting was poor which i do agree 100% with you. at least the predator looked badasss which is supposed to look instead of some damn steriod using looking like a damn wrestler. the aliens looked great which i was pleased with. now if fox did do a trilogy of avp like you said they better fork our alot of good money and also get a good badass director and a great writer to make the third one if there is a third one into a better verison but like you said theyve stripped both franchises of its dignity. i also respect what you said too Deco.
CHAZ: The girl in the diner was pregnant. XENO-ALIENS Cheers man, I think FOX really just need to take care of the franchise. I dont think it would all that difficult to make a good AVP movie if FOX just went about it the right way. Im a screenwriter and im writing what I feel to be a different take on AVP, none of the other movies have ever happened and ive thrown alot of the rules out the window. Like a Batman Begins of AVP if you will: Earth is wiped out. Year: 3052, set on about 4 different planets and tells the story of how the Aliens and Predators ever came across eachother; how the Predator evolved into hunters from a stronghold/army based race, and their ultimate struggle to gain power over the galaxy, which inadvertantly also may be the key to restoring human life to universe. (Of course there are humans in the story, but this is largely the story of how one race must ultimately prevail against a growing evil, so that another race, can live on)
There in lies, the greatest honor: Sacrifice
I don't see what's so important about these reviews, the people who write them are asses. People should make up their own minds on an issue, not take up somebody else's opinion just because it's what the critics write. Critics give most films that people on this site would be more into low ratings, because they're only really interested boring films.
no the critic is there for a final thought on film.for someone who usualy dosent see them to change their minds most wouldnt have seen history x ,pulp fiction,seven and many other movies now highly rated if it wasnt for the critic as proved with my parents seeing the films mentioned above on the basis of critics/reviewers and enjoyed them as films and these arnt the films they usualy watch especialy when u go for sunday tea n have to sit thru doris bloody day chirping along or bleeding john wayne for the 50th time
deco, even if she was other woman were not (the hobo) the bodies in the morgue. etc etc. still think the next avp needs to involve the marines like the vid games. thats the way they should have went all along but now after 1 bad movie and 1 good movie we have the ties into weyland yutani. need the marines in the next one and we need camerom or scott to be behind the wheel writing and directing
CHAZ Yeah I know man only pulling your leg ;) Gotta respectfully disagree with you on the marine side though. I think its been done and doing it again would be a waste since Cameron nailed it! we needa revamp and a good b udget and most importantly a cracking cript!
i think a marine plot be nice but i guess i just want an avp movie that meets its expectation not under shoots it. avp r was a step in the right direction
In my opinion, AvP:R was an ok movie. It failed in a lot of aspects, but it got it right in few... So, was it a bad movie? No. Mostly, because it was in improval of the first AvP movie. It was a step in the right direction... As to AvP3, i must say there are two scenarios to be considered: 1- FOX reduced the budget from AvP to AvP:R, because they felt that the second movie was the last stand for this franchise. 2- FOX tried to increase the profits from the franchise (greedy thinking) by reducing the AvP:R movie budget. Still, a third movie is not out of the equation.
I disagree about people only seeing Pulp Fiction because of critics as I believe word of mouth is a much bigger tool in the long run. When a film first comes out some people do check out what critics say but AVP-R isnt the kind of film in the first place that a critic even if he or she liked it would admit to it because its a vs movie. I doubt even the original alien or predator would get such great reviews if they were made now and released. Alien was embraced because it was a great film but also when it came out Sci-fi had just hit big with Star Wars and it was fashionable. Now its just not.