Paul WS Andrson Talks AvP 21 Years Later

Started by SiL, Apr 29, 2025, 12:53:04 PM

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RakaiThwei

Quote from: Billiken on May 02, 2025, 12:14:30 PMI actually prefer AVP to Prey.yeah I'm serious

Agreed.

Quote from: SiL on May 02, 2025, 02:13:01 PMI also prefer AvP to Prey.

That's no comment on quality. I'd just rather watch one over the other.

I have more fun watching AVP over Prey. Prey just... pisses me off.

Billiken

I agree. It was a fun film. A bit an expedition/adventure film. Definitely has grown on me

BigDaddyJohn

Takes almost an hour to get the action going for a 1h35 movie. That's pretty bad.

SiL

The credits start rolling around 85 minutes. There's all of 30 minutes of AvP action in the movie.

SM

Depending on what defined as "action" the first encounter with the Predators is at 45 minutes. Then there's a gap till the first Alien Predator fight.

Coolertonic7

It also depends on the version you are watching, since in the unrated cut there is a millisecond of AVP "action", at the start of the movie!

SiL

Quote from: SM on May 05, 2025, 10:07:55 PMDepending on what defined as "action" the first encounter with the Predators is at 45 minutes. Then there's a gap till the first Alien Predator fight.
That's why I specified AvP - as in the creatures together.

SM

That's at 53 minutes (when the Predator gets stabbed by the tail).

Though weirdly, that's the Disney+ TC version. I have a copy of the extended cut on my computer and the stab happens around 45 minutes.  Eight minutes earlier in the extended version. Difference that big can't be down to framerates could it?

SiL

Quote from: SM on May 06, 2025, 01:47:03 AMThat's at 53 minutes (when the Predator gets stabbed by the tail).
And the credits roll before 90 minutes. For shame.

QuoteThough weirdly, that's the Disney+ TC version. I have a copy of the extended cut on my computer and the stab happens around 45 minutes.  Eight minutes earlier in the extended version. Difference that big can't be down to framerates could it?
No, especially since the extended version adds most of its runtime before then.

SM

Bugger.  Now I have to find out why it's different...  >:(

SiL

SiL

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First thing I'd check is that the timecode starts at 00:00:00


Quote from: SM on May 06, 2025, 01:47:03 AMI have a copy of the extended cut on my computer and the stab happens around 45 minutes.
It's supposed to be 59:30 in the extended cut so I don't know where your 15 minutes went, but I'd start by checking the starting timecode.

Samhain13

Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Apr 30, 2025, 02:32:35 PM
Quote from: LSL on Apr 30, 2025, 12:15:23 PMI always thought Paul WS Anderson hated the Predator. The character is humiliated all the time in this movie. There are three Predators here, and all three almost die to a single xenomorph.

That's because Paul respects the Aliens and treated them like an actual threat. What exactly is humiliating about losing to an Alien when every predator we've seen has lost to a human? The Alien wasn't created to be the predator's punching bag.


lol aliens were killed easier in their movies by weaker characters than the Predators  :laugh:

Jigsaw85

Jigsaw85

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Quote from: Samhain13 on May 06, 2025, 12:40:10 PM
Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Apr 30, 2025, 02:32:35 PM
Quote from: LSL on Apr 30, 2025, 12:15:23 PMI always thought Paul WS Anderson hated the Predator. The character is humiliated all the time in this movie. There are three Predators here, and all three almost die to a single xenomorph.

That's because Paul respects the Aliens and treated them like an actual threat. What exactly is humiliating about losing to an Alien when every predator we've seen has lost to a human? The Alien wasn't created to be the predator's punching bag.


lol aliens were killed easier in their movies by weaker characters than the Predators  :laugh:

You mean characters armed with high-powered pulse rifles and smart guns? Between an Alien and a Predator: who got killed with a single swipe of a samurai sword? Who got their ass completely handed to him by a teenage girl out on her first hunt? Who lost to an LA cop afraid of heights? But it's the 8-foot-tall, super strong, super fast, stealthy, durable, cunning Alien that you fanboys can't stand having a victory over a Predator? You Predator fanboys are just embarrassing yourselves at this point. Stop pretending like the predators are special, they're not.

BigDaddyJohn

I mean City Hunter is showed to be extremely resilient, only to be matched maybe  by the dragon in alien 3.

He gets wrecked by a shotgun at close range numerous times in the chest area which is likely to have vital organs, and still is able to fight after that (and minus one arm too).

Jigsaw85

Jigsaw85

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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on May 06, 2025, 01:19:58 PMI mean City Hunter is showed to be extremely resilient, only to be matched maybe  by the dragon in alien 3.

He gets wrecked by a shotgun at close range numerous times in the chest area which is likely to have vital organs, and still is able to fight after that (and minus one arm too).

You forgot to mention that city hunter retreated from Harrigan after that to seek immediate medical attention. Guy was breathing through a respirator and was willing to blow himself up after Harrigan shoved him off the roof. City hunter knew he was dead in that moment, that's why he tried to blow himself up. It was only after he got his arm chopped off that he was given time to heal his wounds. Predators are tough but they're not that tough.



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