OWLF Recordings

[PAS Spinelli]

I hope we get Isabelle tapes at some point

Also, with Keyes joining Voodoo, I think this means we might get more interesting Mission VOs, with him guiding us alongside Zeus
The Predator Killer to me sounds like it was sent so we could find a way to re-purpose it, which actually fits within the new Plasma based weapons we have, so I'm fine with it, just wish Isabelle had a tape dedicated to her

[PAS Spinelli]

The Isabelle tapes are here as was foretold!

Personally, I like em, but I have some minor gripes, which I'll spoiler tag.

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I don't like the idea of Predators accepting humans as their own, always sounded too dumb to me, even with the girl from the OG Comics.

The idea of the Predators that come to hunt being dumb is fine, mostly, as if they were highschool jocks, but I don't like the impliance that ALL Predators are that dumb.

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[Mr.Turok]

The Isabelle tapes are here as was foretold!

Personally, I like em, but I have some minor gripes, which I'll spoiler tag.

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I don't like the idea of Predators accepting humans as their own, always sounded too dumb to me, even with the girl from the OG Comics.

The idea of the Predators that come to hunt being dumb is fine, mostly, as if they were highschool jocks, but I don't like the impliance that ALL Predators are that dumb.

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I actually do have that one issue Illfonic seems to hint that really rubbed me the wrong way:

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I can accept adopting others into the clan as many cultures in our history had adopted those whom they deemed worthy to join. But saying that Predators don't even know how to operate half of their tech really is dumbing down on the race. I'm not about making Predators look stupid grugs who bang on the advanced tech with a club until it fixes itself out.

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[PAS Spinelli]

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If they want to say most Young Hunters are dumb, that's fine, but to imply all of their Race is dumb is just lame

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[SuperiorIronman]

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It's astounding how stupid that insinuation is. They can genetically engineer organisms, they can alter genetics, they have a working knowledge of alien anatomy, they can fly ships, they can open wormholes, they know how to build large structures, but they're a bunch of smooth brained morons? That is the thing that needed to be cut because it's a talking down for the title character and insinuates they aren't the "real" threat but whoever makes the technology is which rapidly approaches Alien Prequel territory of dumbing down the threat. No, they're frighteningly intelligent. The reason that the Predator is scary is that for all it's technological innovation, for all it's knowledge of the universe, it knows how to and wants to kill. It's not wanting to be your friend, it wants you mounted on its wall. It's the monster with the superiority complex and why it's juxtaposition against us is so effective. It looks and acts primal but this thing is beyond the intelligence of anything we can dream of on Earth hence the often failed efforts to take them alive.

If anything the monster not only emasculates its victims but it's smarter than you. It's confident because in every way it is better than you. That's why you have to fight dirty, that's why they have to lower themselves to your level because they will never give you the chance or if they do it's because we are that beneath them. You should never dress down the threat what the Hell Illfonic?

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I get it, a lot of people didn't like 4 but it's bizarre how 4 had that much more respect for its villain than Illfonic does.

[BlueMarsalis79]

Delicious salt.

[Voodoo Magic]

Damn, how do I love the extra effort that Illfonic did here. To have lore recordings of actors featured in Predator films is wonderful by itself, but to bring in two actors in from two different Predator films and have dialogue recorded between them is just off the charts fantastic for me. 👏

However with that said, I love this Alpha Predator lore. And what I love is the Predators embraced the Amengi technology... as well as "expanded upon" that technology.



But now, for that recording to suggest Predators are

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too dumb to make simple repairs

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...is just mind numbingly stupid to me.

[BlueMarsalis79]

All dumber than a bag of rocks apparently.

[SuperiorIronman]

It's not something you'd want to do after 30+ years of franchise and a movie devoted to their mad science.

And it's not that every Predator needs to be a polymath. I can completely buy that not everyone is capable of or knows how to make repairs to their stuff. Even in the real world not everyone knows how to fix a car or how to build a house. Makes sense. The society would have people who'd be capable of doing that or even a sect dedicated to this. The Emissary was even meant to have been that. These guys don't see as much action because they're the guys busy building, repairing and doing the science needed to kill shit. Naturally despite being highly intelligent we can't expect them all to know how to fix a broken helmet especially in a foreign environment. They'd discard parts for practicalities sake. A broken helmet doesn't do you much good if the tactical advantage of using it is lost. And it might make some sense to discard it. If it doesn't work then it's just a hunk of metal that nobody can use. Nothing's risked by leaving it other than being a litter bug. And Predators are often successful offscreen so it's not like this happens often.

It's an idea that should've been dropped or used as an expansion on our villains. Say that this Predator felt he no longer needed the tech due to whatever modifications it received. Too broken and he didn't need it any longer. That would've given the tie-in to the film series and suggested a larger threat. 2018 wasn't an isolated incident and even suggest new gear items down the road. Like a no helmet cosmetic or gear item. You could even suggest they encountered a younger version of the Assassin since he ditched traditional gear. That could tie in with the four armed Predator suggesting something bigger was going on with the Game preserve given the hybrid's presence.

Instead all these latest lore drops from Illfonic feel reductive.

[Voodoo Magic]

I've already head-cannoned that Isabelle was talking about the Super Predators. 

[lightsyder]

I've already head-cannoned that Isabelle was talking about the Super Predators. 

I like that idea much better...lol

[Corporal Hicks]

As someone who likes the "Predator stole their technology" theory, I wouldn't go as far as to say "they're not very smart." I would have omitted that dialogue. But it's easy to work around anyway - they didn't see any techs or engineers because they were on a hunting preserve. Unless some of the engineers or techs went for their jollies here too, how many of us would know how to fix our cars if they broke down? That's why we have specialists we take them too.

[Kailem]

Yeah I'm just taking it as "these ones are here to hunt, not to repair spacecraft."

[Huggs]

So that's why they needed our smart juice.

[Samhain13]

Yeah, now their plan of weaponizing autism come full circle, The Predator was foreshadowing this reveal. Shane Black is a genius.