As with the recent films, just getting a catch-all threat going for things to do with the game that don't necessarily deserve their own threads.
I was hoping we might get some more footage recorded by people who played it at NYCC, but that seems not to be the case.
I'm being told Sony isn't allowing recording.
I love that gruesome menu screen!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 08, 2019, 08:01:41 AM
I'm being told Sony isn't allowing recording.
Boooo! So far the over-the-shoulder footage that people recorded at PAX has looked better than the actual gameplay trailer!
https://twitter.com/Romudeth/status/1181601071032090624?s=19
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 10, 2019, 10:09:14 AM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="pt" dir="ltr">O novo jogo do <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Predator?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Predator</a>, Predator Hunting Grounds, tem uma pegada parecida com <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FridayThe13th?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FridayThe13th</a> e Evolve. Está jogável no estande da playstation na <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BGS2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BGS2019</a> <a href="https://t.co/rvHzSDkUHh">pic.twitter.com/rvHzSDkUHh</a></p>— Dicecast (@dicecastoficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/dicecastoficial/status/1182097664009281536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 10, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
"The New Predator game has a similar style to F13 and Evolve. Its playable on PlayStation's stand on BGS2019."
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 10, 2019, 10:18:42 AM
"The New Predator game has a similar style to F13 and Evolve. Its playable on PlayStation's stand on BGS2019."
"Le jeu New Predator a un style similaire à F13 et Evolve. Il est jouable sur le stand de PlayStation sur BGS2019."
Though this video isn't from social media I figured this was still probably the best thread to post it in, since there's not a specific one for its NYCC showing:
Some sweet looking footage in that video. It looks better the more I see it!
Definitely!
I like the implication of more maps and Predators there. The latter is to be expected more than perhaps the former, but it's good to get a hint of them regardless, especially the possibility of more maps than just the jungle one we've seen.
Quote from: Kailem on Nov 06, 2019, 06:22:25 PM
I like the implication of more maps and Predators there. The latter is to be expected more than perhaps the former, but it's good to get a hint of them regardless, especially the possibility of more maps than just the jungle one we've seen.
Yeah, I read between the lines when he said what we're seeing right now is the "IllFonic Predator" which spoke to me that more iconic Predators will be revealed.
Some more gameplay from the Paris Games Week showing that has a couple of little details I'm not sure we've seen in other videos, including that the Predator's eyes glow the classic yellow while cloaked:
Might just be me seeing things, but when the Predator is holding the skull I think we could see a bit of the Predator's face under the helmet.
More from PGW: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPYkaeNhZo
Quote from: Kailem on Nov 08, 2019, 05:47:41 PM
Some more gameplay from the Paris Games Week showing that has a couple of little details I'm not sure we've seen in other videos, including that the Predator's eyes glow the classic yellow while cloaked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQhK5lC2IDY
Predator f**king demolished them there! I believe the eye-glow is just when you turn on the infa-red like in the films.
It'd be cool if you could do it manually to mess with/intimidate people like they do in the films. It could be fun to be roaming around the map as a human only to look up and see the eyes flash right before everything gets crazy.
You could do it by flicking the vision on!
That's true, though it could be a bit finicky if you're already using it. Either way it's still a nice little inclusion.
Loving the look of the heat vision, looks just as bad as it did in the original, and that's a good thing.
https://www.altchar.com/reviews/predator-hunting-grounds-preview-aSikF3l4N1Py
QuoteEarly looks suggest a title still very much in the polishing stage, with decent environmental detail but an inconsistent framerate that will hopefully be ironed out in time for launch. In any case, Predator: Hunting Grounds offers a rock solid foundation with heaps of promise.
Good news for Predator Hunting Grounds that both Cyberpunk and Avengers has been delayed. The competition has gotten thinner!
Literally one of the only good things about Cyberpunk being delayed is that I don't have to worry about not playing Hunting Grounds day one because I'm still neck-deep in Night City.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 16, 2020, 06:44:08 PM
Good news for Predator Hunting Grounds that both Cyberpunk and Avengers has been delayed. The competition has gotten thinner!
That's actually pretty good news! I'm pleased to hear this!
One of the things revealed at PAX South -
If I'm remembering rightly, TJ did mo-cap for the Upgrade during the reshoots of The Predator.
Bloody fantastic.
Hah! That's great.
https://twitter.com/jonasgeerts73/status/1221029792344150019?s=19
It would have been fun to have alternate nighttime versions but yeah I can understand why they won't. The Predator is already going to be hard enough for the humans to spot anyway, let alone if he's in darkness too.
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 25, 2020, 08:37:23 PM
It would have been fun to have alternate nighttime versions but yeah I can understand why they won't. The Predator is already going to be hard enough for the humans to spot anyway, let alone if he's in darkness too.
Agreed, but still, that would be scary as f***!
There it is confirmed from the CCO of illphonic. Its still good even if there is no night. The special effects are awesome enough.
If not on custom maps, perhaps a social playlist allows for more map creativity, as a competitive playlist does not.
social playlist? I'm not sure i follow. I don't play many multiplayer games and if there is an actual level playlist then that is the first I've heard of it. It would make sense for a multiplayer only game that is franchise based. But I'm sure people's will want to have their fill of a particular map before they move onto the next. I take it it is still played that way?
https://twitter.com/cherifLORD/status/1222919612691513349?s=19
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https://twitter.com/Gerritzen/status/1222980511192309760?s=20
YUSS!! That's what I wanted to hear!
Well I will say that is a nice thing to hear. I know I said I wasn't interested in playing. But perhaps if a good enough discount comes around, I might pick it up.
Can anyone read that?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 05, 2020, 11:10:32 AM
Can anyone read that?
Looks to be just an ad for the game in....Japanese? Probably doesn't have any new info.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 05, 2020, 11:10:32 AM
Can anyone read that?
"Unbalanced shooting activity with Predators -VS mens!
For them who delights predators, it's going to be the fun programming.
#Reservations #Predators #GENKI [something or the other]"
You're welcome,
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Feb 05, 2020, 06:24:22 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 05, 2020, 11:10:32 AM
Can anyone read that?
"Unbalanced shooting activity with Predators -VS mens!
For them who delights predators, it's going to be the fun programming.
#Reservations #Predators #GENKI [something or the other]"
You're welcome,
Ha! Thanks brother, but I meant what's on the flyer. :D
I am a fan of the shooting activity and the fun programming.
:laugh:
Hey, who doesn't like fun programming?
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It's coming to Pax East from February 27th to March 1st. (https://blog.us.playstation.com/2020/02/13/playstation-at-pax-east-play-the-last-of-us-part-ii-final-fantasy-vii-remake-more/)
Our interview will be going up Monday evening time (GMT). I'll try and get it up for UK coming home, US waking up.
Noice! Looking forward to it!
Cool, will definitely keep an eye out for that. I'm curious what questions you were able to ask now that they've confirmed classes, customisation, more weapons etc.
I would like to know how the trophy system works. Considering we saw that you can collect skulls, skulls with spines, etc. and what you do with those trophies? Do you unlock shit? New skins would be logical. What about the Fireteam? What do they unlock? Parts of the story? Special recorded messages from their intel? That would be an awesome treat...if we get Arnold somewhere that would be cool!
If I remember right Friday the 13th had audio pick ups you could find, or maybe they were unlocks? I don't remember exactly but I know they're there because by friend showed me. It was recordings of Tommy in the psych ward and they ended up hinting at Freddy Krueger existing. I wouldn't be surprised if the fire team members will be able to find similar things.
I just hope they don't pull of A:CM Hick's thing where we have the real actors come but everything else looks campy and amatuer as f**k.
I don't think Arnold or Danny Glover would be coming back for a smaller title like this. ACM was a different beast
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 14, 2020, 06:27:42 PM
If I remember right Friday the 13th had audio pick ups you could find, or maybe they were unlocks? I don't remember exactly but I know they're there because by friend showed me. It was recordings of Tommy in the psych ward and they ended up hinting at Freddy Krueger existing. I wouldn't be surprised if the fire team members will be able to find similar things.
Yeah they were random collectibles that could show up on the maps every now and then. They were super rare though so it would have taken ages to potentially get them all.
It
would be cool to have something like that in this though. Maybe debriefs from various soldiers talking about encountering Predators, or things like Anna's story being told by villagers who'd heard stories of it growing up.
One thing I noticed in the pre-alpha version footage that AI enemy soldiers can be dismembered (legs and hands) or even completely explode into blood mist. I wonder if they are going to keep this feature because it seems to be toned down in the last trailer.
What a gorgeous shot!
Quote from: molasar on Feb 16, 2020, 06:20:00 AM
One thing I noticed in the pre-alpha version footage that AI enemy soldiers can be dismembered (legs and hands) or even completely explode into blood mist. I wonder if they are going to keep this feature because it seems to be toned down in the last trailer.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8h4U5ZFSqj/
Can we play against AI soldiers? Or was that just for a demo?
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 16, 2020, 03:39:29 PM
Can we play against AI soldiers? Or was that just for a demo?
No, we cannot if you meant the fireteam soldiers as far as we know.
Generally it goes like this: x4 members of fireteam (human players) vs x1 Predator (human player) vs xX enemy soldiers - guerrillas, drug cartel members (AI)
Quote from: molasar on Feb 16, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 16, 2020, 03:39:29 PM
Can we play against AI soldiers? Or was that just for a demo?
No, we cannot if you meant the fireteam soldiers as far as we know.
Generally it goes like this: x4 members of fireteam (human players) vs x1 Predator (human player) vs xX enemy soldiers - guerrillas, drug cartel members (AI)
Well shit with enemy AI already in place within the game, there could easily be a single player mode with the Predator fighting the cartel and guerrilla soldiers.
Highly unlikely but a man can dream can't he?
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 16, 2020, 04:15:36 PM
Quote from: molasar on Feb 16, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 16, 2020, 03:39:29 PM
Can we play against AI soldiers? Or was that just for a demo?
No, we cannot if you meant the fireteam soldiers as far as we know.
Generally it goes like this: x4 members of fireteam (human players) vs x1 Predator (human player) vs xX enemy soldiers - guerrillas, drug cartel members (AI)
Well shit with enemy AI already in place within the game, there could easily be a single player mode with the Predator fighting the cartel and guerrilla soldiers.
Highly unlikely but a man can dream can't he?
Right? How hard would it be to incorporate all of them as bots?
Quote from: The Shuriken on Feb 16, 2020, 04:15:36 PM
Well shit with enemy AI already in place within the game, there could easily be a single player mode with the Predator fighting the cartel and guerrilla soldiers.
Highly unlikely but a man can dream can't he?
A similar game called Evolve has AI bots replacing absent human players and Illfonic participated in its development too. So there is a chance it will be implemented at some point through an update if it is not available at release date.
Also I believe that Illfonic wants players to experience the game with other players first because bots can be flawed in comparison and there is a lack of communication if you play as a member of the fireteam with the other members controlled by AI.
Not to mention AI of enemy soldiers is not so sophisticated.
Bots will pale in comparison to real players I know. I'd still love to have the option though. :)
They added single-player challenges for Friday the 13th with bots a while after launch, so I'd imagine it might potentially be easier to do that here given that there are going to be bots in this from the get-go.
Quote from: molasar on Feb 16, 2020, 06:20:00 AMhttps://www.instagram.com/p/B8h4U5ZFSqj/
Took 'em out with a heat-seeker.
Quote from: Kailem on Feb 16, 2020, 05:44:46 PM
They added single-player challenges for Friday the 13th with bots a while after launch, so I'd imagine it might potentially be easier to do that here given that there are going to be bots in this from the get-go.
AI requirements for Predator and The fireteam members are much higher than those for enemy soldiers that serve as cannon fodder. Although I want them as well even if they will end up very flawed.
If ever they did add a single player component I'd imagine there'd be a 0.000% chance we'd ever see an AI Predator. We'd play as the Predator going against the humans, who would basically just be the grunts that are already in the game now.
The pieces are there for a single player mode. Perhaps if we just beg for it enough, it could come at a later time.
An A.I Predator seems unlikely but weirder things have happened. I think they did admit they didn't have the time and or budget for single-player but really Predator is at its best when you have Human players and have been pretty open about it being multiplayer only.
Really I think what people are more interested in is playing as the Predator since that's where the more interesting game-play is. So I'd be all for them doing a single-player that covers that since you can give everyone their fix if they can't seem to get it in multiplayer.
Imagine guys playing it for the first time as a fireteam member and knowing nothing at all about the Predator franchise. I wonder what our reaction would be playing against a good player behind the Predator.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 16, 2020, 10:58:03 PM
An A.I Predator seems unlikely but weirder things have happened.
Yeah, Evolve is one example where you can play against AI monster with 3 other AI hunters and some lesser AI fauna. I have not played it, so I do not know how good it is in comparison to human players.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 19, 2020, 10:24:16 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Are you ready to <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HuntOrBeHunted?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HuntOrBeHunted</a>? Four Fire Team operatives versus One Ultimate Adversary in Predator: Hunting Grounds at <a href="https://twitter.com/ASTROGaming?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ASTROGaming</a> booth #14027 this <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAXEast?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAXEast</a>! Make sure you say hi to the devs!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PredatorHuntingGrounds?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PredatorHuntingGrounds</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Predator?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Predator</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Yautja?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Yautja</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PAXEast2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PAXEast2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/wdrJPSLAu2">pic.twitter.com/wdrJPSLAu2</a></p>— IllFonic (@IllFonic) <a href="https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1230193263505633281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Yet Sony cancelled its attendance because concerns of coronavirus.
Quote from: molasar on Feb 17, 2020, 01:20:55 AM
Imagine guys playing it for the first time as a fireteam member and knowing nothing at all about the Predator franchise. I wonder what our reaction would be playing against a good player behind the Predator.
It would be a little hard going in blind but assuming they viewed it like a game of Juggernaut they'd be in for a surprise. Back when I played AVP 2010 I found that new players view the Predator like a tank. Playing against them I find Predators would rush in rather than sneak up on players and keep quiet. I actually got a lot of hate mail back on X-box live because I turned out to be a Hell of a shot with the smart-disk and spear (even post-nerf). Playing like a stealthy hunter is not only satisfying but it freaks even decent players out when you had a good Predator. There's just something really creepy knowing it was out looking for you and occasionally just watching you before it got a decent shot.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1231706253987958785
Hope we get some more footage from this event at some point. Even if it's not great quality it'd be nice to watch something new instead of the same few videos from last year over and over again.
"Blowing myself up in front of the rescue chopper"
Nice 8)
https://twitter.com/KellzShow/status/1233728276222357504?s=20
https://twitter.com/jez7780/status/1233778193821245440?s=20
Starting to feel hyped towards the release.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 01, 2020, 10:41:21 PM
Starting to feel hyped towards the release.
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She looks just terrific there in that concept art.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 10, 2020, 02:35:42 AM
She looks just terrific there in that concept art.
Feminine, yet equally Yautja, perfect.
One thing I've never considered about female predator design and sharing female traits with humans, is designing from a cosplay perspective. I suppose that works out well for them.
https://www.gamesradar.com/amp/predator-hunting-grounds-developer-illfonic-on-the-rewards-and-challenges-of-working-with-a-beloved-cinematic-property/?__twitter_impression=true
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That's going to be me. The guy chilling on the ground while his teammates do all the work.
"She's over there guys! The one with the bow!" ;D
https://madeyeyokai.com/predator-hunting-grounds-my-pax-experience-early-review/
So did anyone else notice the Vazquez look alike in the new trailer? Female trooper with a red bandanna and a LMG.
(https://i.imgur.com/kl5NT1k.png)
Hmm.. Vasquez's great, great Grandmother perhaps?
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Mar 25, 2020, 07:09:55 PM
So did anyone else notice the Vazquez look alike in the new trailer? Female trooper with a red bandanna and a LMG.
All I noticed is a homage to Dutch's sunglasses when they flash red in this scene at 1:05.
Will Predator Hunting Grounds be on Steam for PC or just Epic?
Quote from: shadowedge on Mar 26, 2020, 12:02:35 AM
Will Predator Hunting Grounds be on Steam for PC or just Epic?
It is up to Sony.
The game runs on Unreal Engine 4 made by Epic, so this way Sony could get a better deal too.
Invert Mouse look is NOT WORKING AT ALL. Guys,wtf?!?
I'd suggest tweeting Illfonic mate.
A non-inverted Y axis is the work of Satan himself.
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 27, 2020, 05:46:55 PM
A non-inverted Y axis is the work of Satan himself.
Uh... not really.. its just means a no thanks for people who only play using invert mouse
I didn't realize Hunting Grounds has the famous Dutch/Dillon standing arm wrestling! Kudos to Illfonic on this one. The fan service is off the charts!
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Added a gif:
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 03:56:20 PM
The fan service is off the charts!
Yes, there is a lot of it used in a good way.
But based on its gameplay mechanics and gameplay loop alone it has become my favorite game of all times too and I did not expect it at all. I just thought that I will be blinded by some fan nostalgia or something to make a proper judgement.
The game just delivers all I want from video games with an exception of proper AI imitating human players, but the industry has started working on it using an AI machine learning technology. So it can change a lot in this aspect in the future.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 01, 2020, 04:53:42 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 01, 2020, 03:56:20 PM
The fan service is off the charts!
Yes, there is a lot of it used in a good way.
But based on its gameplay mechanics and gameplay loop alone it has become my favorite game of all times too and I did not expect it at all. I just thought that I will be blinded by some fan nostalgia or something to make a proper judgement.
This could become my favorite game of all time too. Being Predator has something to do with it, as well as capturing so well the 1987 classic film that we love - I can't deny that. But it's also the asymmetric multiplayer game dynamic I'm in love with too. It's why I find F13 so appealing even though I'm no fan of the F13 movies. Give me Halloween or Nightmare on Elm Street anyday over F13. So all of this is making me long for Hunting Grounds, even when I'm playing the recently downloaded Doom Eternal... that might end up being the game of year.
I definitely enjoyed the game and put in a fair few sessions of it during the trial weekend, however I'm not quite as keen as some above.
they definitely got the feel and look of the Predator right, controlling it felt so cool and all the key weapons were present and correct- again, feeling just right.
playing as the fire team often ran the risk of feeling like a very generic action shooter- y'know, the ones that gaming have been drowning in during the past few years. especially during the periods where you are engaging more with the AI bad guys rather than the Predator. generic soldiers with no charisma. go to this place, shoot this or find that.
what made it feel different was having to look up vertically into the trees. no other game has that feel where you are having to watch that as much as you are watching the ground for bad guys. it almost opens it up on a whole different axis.
I was also lucky in that the sessions I played felt properly tense at times. run ins with the predator felt really crucial and the rest of the time you are watching your back or getting paranoid. for me this felt like the movies. I also love asymmetrical multiplayer games and thought Friday the 13th was great in that regard.
they just need to make sure it's balanced right, that there's enough to keep you coming back (more levels, and more interesting levels would be essential) but the big thing for me would be giving the fire team some more interesting and engaging missions to do.
Quote from: Gemini on Apr 15, 2020, 06:39:51 PM
playing as the fire team often ran the risk of feeling like a very generic action shooter- y'know, the ones that gaming have been drowning in during the past few years. especially during the periods where you are engaging more with the AI bad guys rather than the Predator. generic soldiers with no charisma. go to this place, shoot this or find that.
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Quotewhat made it feel different was having to look up vertically into the trees. no other game has that feel where you are having to watch that as much as you are watching the ground for bad guys. it almost opens it up on a whole different axis.
I was also lucky in that the sessions I played felt properly tense at times. run ins with the predator felt really crucial and the rest of the time you are watching your back or getting paranoid.
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You just described the 1987 film, Gemini! ;D
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5 Things We Love About Predator: Hunting Grounds (& 5 We Don't)
https://gamerant.com/predator-hunting-grounds-best-worst-things/
QuoteAs a teammate, it's hard to tell who is an AI and who is a teammate — there's no distinction.
As Predator, it's even harder, which can make it hard to know who to target.
Unless I'm misremembering, there was a distinction? Other than that, I don't really disagree with this list.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 17, 2020, 06:55:39 AM
QuoteAs a teammate, it's hard to tell who is an AI and who is a teammate — there's no distinction.
As Predator, it's even harder, which can make it hard to know who to target.
Unless I'm misremembering, there was a distinction?
Yes, it was. A red outline for an AI and blue one for a teammate. Also your teammates are shown on mini map. Each one tagged with their own distinctive color and AI as red ones.
As a Predator using thermal vision, from long distances I did experience some difficulty at times identifying and separating AI from Player. Often it was how the players moved was the giveaway. Maybe this was the intention?
Can't make it too easy!
True, true.
I sure don't envy the devs when it comes to balancing!
One week left! I wonder if the people who have pre-ordered can pre-download the game on PS4.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 17, 2020, 11:54:05 AM
As a Predator using thermal vision, from long distances I did experience some difficulty at times identifying and separating AI from Player. Often it was how the players moved was the giveaway. Maybe this was the intention?
That's how I figured out who was human and who was ai too in thermal vision. Watched their moment!
Predator: Hunting Grounds interview with Illfonic
https://soundcloud.com/playstation/official-playstation-podcast-episode-361-remade#t=15:15
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 15, 2020, 07:13:43 PM
You just described the 1987 film, Gemini! ;D
https://media.giphy.com/media/9WXyFIDv2PyBq/giphy.gif
so I did :)
i guess that's the key- whatever elements that Predator contained to make it rise above other generic action movies.. that's what they need to put in the game to make it rise above other shooters!
with regards to balancing, the good thing about modern gaming is they can just keep tweaking the balance as they go along with patches. I think fighting games do that a lot now as do similar games like Friday the 13th and Dead by Daylight
Quote from: Gemini on Apr 18, 2020, 11:17:11 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 15, 2020, 07:13:43 PM
You just described the 1987 film, Gemini! ;D
https://media.giphy.com/media/9WXyFIDv2PyBq/giphy.gif
with regards to balancing, the good thing about modern gaming is they can just keep tweaking the balance as they go along with patches. I think fighting games do that a lot now as do similar games like Friday the 13th and Dead by Daylight
The balancing adjustments can be done only for active player base as a group (based on observations and feedback), not individuals. In other words if you were not a part of the group, you can still find the game unbalanced. Therefore periodical updates are the only way.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 18, 2020, 03:22:24 AM
Predator: Hunting Grounds interview with Illfonic
https://soundcloud.com/playstation/official-playstation-podcast-episode-361-remade#t=15:15
Nice find Molasar!
Quote from: molasar on Apr 18, 2020, 03:22:24 AM
Predator: Hunting Grounds interview with Illfonic
https://soundcloud.com/playstation/official-playstation-podcast-episode-361-remade#t=15:15
Anyone listened to it yet? Haven't had the chance.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2020, 04:11:46 PM
Anyone listened to it yet? Haven't had the chance.
Yes, it is very short. About 10 mins long. They just confirmed that they work on all issues (bugs, balancing, optimization, etc.) and the trial at its release was not even a current version they had. Some issues were already fixed.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 19, 2020, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2020, 04:11:46 PM
Anyone listened to it yet? Haven't had the chance.
Yes, it is very short. About 10 mins long. They just confirmed that they work on all issues (bugs, balancing, optimization, etc.) and the trial at its release was not even a current version they had. Some issues were already fixed.
I found it interesting to hear the interviewees giving some minor insight into how the developers are continuing to work through the COVID-19 restrictions - selfishly, it is good to hear that the shelter-in-place orders haven't impacted the launch date (with that being said, I hope everyone on AvP Galaxy, members and staff, are staying safe during this time).
As stated by molasar, the trial weekend was leveraging an old build of the game. Will be exciting to see the final build and how quickly the team will be able to turn around patches or online updates on the back-end. There was a focus on the Predator being under-powered and that they are continuing the balancing of the fire team and Predator.
Quote from: molasar on Apr 19, 2020, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2020, 04:11:46 PM
Anyone listened to it yet? Haven't had the chance.
Yes, it is very short. About 10 mins long. They just confirmed that they work on all issues (bugs, balancing, optimization, etc.) and the trial at its release was not even a current version they had. Some issues were already fixed.
He did not really sound all that clear and that was what it sounded like....but from another written account of this interview they write it like "as of today we are already 2 weeks from that version of release and they have already fixed issues that they had just found out about after reviewing the feedback(as of the current day). Thereby meaning they worked things out even during and after the trial's release. They also said they will also work until release day and there after.Hope we do get the latest build on the release day and not have to download the release and then redownload a patch on day 1. I don't want to spend all day long waiting to download 50gigs then have them release a 25gb patch or something.
I bet you there is yet further balancing mechanics we aren't aware of considering the many gear and mods that we couldn't access. I could bet that they've got balancing covered well before the trial was released.
Quote from: bendinglight on Apr 19, 2020, 09:32:38 PM
Quote from: molasar on Apr 19, 2020, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2020, 04:11:46 PM
Anyone listened to it yet? Haven't had the chance.
Yes, it is very short. About 10 mins long. They just confirmed that they work on all issues (bugs, balancing, optimization, etc.) and the trial at its release was not even a current version they had. Some issues were already fixed.
I found it interesting to hear the interviewees giving some minor insight into how the developers are continuing to work through the COVID-19 restrictions - selfishly, it is good to hear that the shelter-in-place orders haven't impacted the launch date (with that being said, I hope everyone on AvP Galaxy, members and staff, are staying safe during this time).
As stated by molasar, the trial weekend was leveraging an old build of the game. Will be exciting to see the final build and how quickly the team will be able to turn around patches or online updates on the back-end. There was a focus on the Predator being under-powered and that they are continuing the balancing of the fire team and Predator.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Apr 19, 2020, 09:32:46 PM
He did not really sound all that clear and that was what it sounded like....but from another written account of this interview they write it like "as of today we are already 2 weeks from that version of release and they have already fixed issues that they had just found out about after reviewing the feedback(as of the current day). Thereby meaning they worked things out even during and after the trial's release. They also said they will also work until release day and there after.Hope we do get the latest build on the release day and not have to download the release and then redownload a patch on day 1. I don't want to spend all day long waiting to download 50gigs then have them release a 25gb patch or something.
I bet you there is yet further balancing mechanics we aren't aware of considering the many gear and mods that we couldn't access. I could bet that they've got balancing covered well before the trial was released.
Agreed - from the sounds of it, there has been numerous things accounted for on the final build. It is good that they are aware of the issues experienced by players and validating the tweaks/updates within the gold build.
I would rather call it the launch built and the one which won't receive anymore updates the final one.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 19, 2020, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: molasar on Apr 18, 2020, 03:22:24 AM
Predator: Hunting Grounds interview with Illfonic
https://soundcloud.com/playstation/official-playstation-podcast-episode-361-remade#t=15:15
Anyone listened to it yet? Haven't had the chance.
Sure. I listened to the podcast.
Illfonic said that they received a lot of feedback from fans on YouTube, the forums, etc. Especially about the Predator being underpowered. They said that internal data from people playing showed that towards the end of the trial the win rate was about 50/50 after people started learning how to play as the Predator.
The trial was based off of a then 6 week old build and there have been balance and optimization changes since.
That are working from home due to quarantine to get everything ready. It has already gone gold. They are planning on supporting the game a lot post release too! Not just release it and abandon it.
Few days left. I hope there is going to be a launch trailer.
They seriously need to start promoting the return of this guy if the rumors are true. Don't wait till Friday!
(https://i.imgur.com/bNd3ntF.gif)
I'd almost be happier if he wasn't in it, since that would mean there's some other Predator game out there in development we don't know about yet.
Here are the PC specs from Epic Games:
Requirements (Minimum)
CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 or AMD FX-8320
RAM: 8 GB.
OS: Windows 10 (64-Bit versions)
VIDEO CARD: Nvidia GTX 960 or AMD R9 280x
PIXEL SHADER: 5.1
VERTEX SHADER: 5.1
SOUND CARD: Coming Soon
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 2048 MB
Recommended Requirements
CPU: Intel Core i7-5930K or AMD Ryzen 5 1600X
RAM: 16GB.
OS: Windows 10 (64-Bit versions)
VIDEO CARD: Nvidia GTX 1660 or AMD R9 Fury X
PIXEL SHADER: 5.1
VERTEX SHADER: 5.1
SOUND CARD: TBD
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 4096 MB
Only 18GB of Hard Drive space. Seems pretty much the same as the demo if this is correct.
I'm pre-downloading the game now on PS4. The file size is 11,386 GB. I wonder if the patch is included in that?
Box art from a seller on ebay:
(https://i.ibb.co/FHbQt2D/Screenshot-20200422-083412-e-Bay.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/grrL4SY/Screenshot-20200422-083500-e-Bay.jpg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 22, 2020, 12:37:25 PM
Box art from a seller on ebay:
(https://i.ibb.co/FHbQt2D/Screenshot-20200422-083412-e-Bay.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/grrL4SY/Screenshot-20200422-083500-e-Bay.jpg)
Very nice and cool that the female Predator is featured prominently!
https://twitter.com/Gerritzen/status/1253406401788960768
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 23, 2020, 08:39:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Gerritzen/status/1253406401788960768?s=19
Eyebrow raised.
Looks like Epic Game Store is shitting the bed and not letting anyone download the game. Curious as to why they didn't release on Steam (Friday the 13th is currently on Steam).
Looks to have been resolved after around 20 minutes of being in an error/unavailable state.
Epic games store is pretty trash from what I've heard. I didn't have any issues with The Division 2 but that was just one game.
I'm gonna get it on my PS4 later tonight (forgot to PO) but if it ever does make its way to Steam I might buy it on there as well.
Am sure we all expected it but - https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/its-not-just-the-jungle-thats-steamy/865/4
QuoteSo I was just poking around in the game files, looking for a config I might be able to alter so that I could manually reconfigure the WASD controls, and I found something interesting in ThirdParty/ Steamworks/ etc folder: a steam_api64.dll attributed to Valve Corporation...
Now I'm sitting here wondering if it's even worth getting on the PS4 first now or if it'll be better to just be patient :D
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Apr 24, 2020, 08:40:06 PM
Now I'm sitting here wondering if it's even worth getting on the PS4 first now or if it'll be better to just be patient :D
Good question - with the 2x XP period, spending a chunk of time just sitting there waiting for a match is maddening (imo).
https://twitter.com/giocorsi/status/1253897841061191680
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 24, 2020, 08:07:35 PM
Am sure we all expected it but - https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/its-not-just-the-jungle-thats-steamy/865/4
QuoteSo I was just poking around in the game files, looking for a config I might be able to alter so that I could manually reconfigure the WASD controls, and I found something interesting in ThirdParty/ Steamworks/ etc folder: a steam_api64.dll attributed to Valve Corporation...
Wait what?
Is this serious? Thought it was just a leftover.
Couldn't they've said "The game is coming on PS4, Epic Game Store and Steam straight?
I just downloaded The Epic game Store for the game but if I had knew!!!
I hope there's a way to transfer the key, all my friends are on steam just like you can transfer from Steam to Origin, this launcher suck.
Edit: Somehow this got in the wrong thread but whatever.
Epic does temporary exclusives or outright exclusives. So it's not terribly surprising if it was at one point on Steam or will eventually go to it.
When playing as a pred I feel that the respawn time for the fire team is too quick. I'll kill one enemy and he's back before I know it. Also, the quick trophy kill sometimes doesn't work. It's super annoying. Also, it still takes forever to matchmake as a predator.
Quote from: GreybackElder on Apr 26, 2020, 07:59:48 PM
When playing as a pred I feel that the respawn time for the fire team is too quick. I'll kill one enemy and he's back before I know it. Also, the quick trophy kill sometimes doesn't work. It's super annoying. Also, it still takes forever to matchmake as a predator.
Respawn shouldn't be removed but god should it be nerfed
A fireteam that sticks together and knows what it's doing is tough to crack.
I caved and got int on PC
An official website of Bojan Koturanović - the concept artist who worked on the game.
https://www.bojankoturanovic.com/view/24/
Predator Hunting Grounds - Key Art by Rado Markovic (Concept artist at One Pixel Brush)
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aRz2V0
without logo
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/025/323/315/large/rado-markovic-main.jpg?1585428750)
Quote from: molasar on Apr 27, 2020, 05:24:16 AM
An official website of Bojan Koturanović - the concept artist who worked on the game.
https://www.bojankoturanovic.com/view/24/
Predator Hunting Grounds - Key Art by Rado Markovic (Concept artist at One Pixel Brush)
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/aRz2V0
without logo
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/025/323/315/large/rado-markovic-main.jpg?1585428750)
I really wished they had more variety of the art used for the loading screens.
Scout Predator is just too damn squishy. Either make it silent so the team doesn't hear you coming in the trees and increase it's undetectability... or armor it up a bit!
Agreed. I like the "stay hidden up in the trees and attack from range" play style that they want the scout to be used for, but it's just too hard to get near anyone without being blasted to pieces because they always know you're there.
Reducing the number of ambient "the Predator is nearby" sound effects and making the cloak better would go a long way towards encouraging more play styles than just "berserker combistick rush".
Indeed. And it's not like the Scout can carry bear traps and motion detection with the medkits. Give it stealthy dammit!!
Someone suggested on the Illfonic boards that the Scout be giving a f**k tonne of gadget slots, and the Berserker barely any and I find myself agreeing with the suggestion.
It would definitely be a step in the right direction.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 28, 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Someone suggested on the Illfonic boards that the Scout be giving a f**k tonne of gadget slots, and the Berserker barely any and I find myself agreeing with the suggestion.
Sure but I'd also tweak the health of both. Slightly decrease the Berzerker and slightly increase the Scout.
Berzerker + Combistick cut through an entire squad and there's barely anything they can do unless they all react instantly.
I'd also counter balance the melee, the combistick is way to powerful
(Best Damages for melee, best Range for melee and is also a one hit kill Throw weapons).
I'd decrease the damage and increase the wristblades which are pretty pathetic (especially for newcomer to the game who only have this weapon for melee and may feel the Predator is weak).
+remove the ability to spot predator because you can spam the key randomly.
OR I would simply not make the Predator visible through wall and decrease the spotting time.
+remove the clicking sound.
That way I think each class has fair chance and provide different strategies to approach a squad.
The scouts relies heavily on trees but since they make noise for now and you can spot them so easily it become a nightmare to play them with high ranking players. On the contrary the Berzerker is way too easy and don't even require you to cloak to take down on an entire squad.
I'm ok with the scout not having any gear because he's supposed to stay away from the fire team and not get too close, whereas the traps for the berserker can be good to throw down and then rush in to melee if someone gets trapped in them.
But you're right in that it's a bit silly to even have the option of carrying anything other than a medkit, as if anyone would ever do that.
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Apr 26, 2020, 11:22:37 PM
A fireteam that sticks together and knows what it's doing is tough to crack.
Exactly - with the exception being Beserker, which seems to be able to trounce any team with bull-rushing and the combistick. I despise the Beserker and Support classes - makes it less fun when dealing with tanks like that, imo.
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 28, 2020, 04:09:11 PM
I'm ok with the scout not having any gear because he's supposed to stay away from the fire team and not get too close, whereas the traps for the berserker can be good to throw down and then rush in to melee if someone gets trapped in them.
That was the point being made by him - the Scout is supposed to keep out the way, so he needed stuff to make his ranged stuff more useful. Traps to stall the Fireteam. Though all the other weapons do need buffing, I think. Can't just be having the combistick being the only viable weapon.
Yeah people complain about it being "op" when in reality it's the only thing that's really any good. If they made the other weapons just as good then it'd be a matter of preference or situation, rather than "this is pretty much the only weapon I can down anybody with before they bunny hop back to their teammates and I get annihilated."
In my experience I've actually been using the Disk more as a melee weapon than I have as a throwing weapon. I don't like the Mace as much as the Elder sword but if you go for hit and run tactics it works just fine on Scout. I've still yet to get the spear so maybe it really is that good with Berserker.
The President of SIE Worldwide Studios Shuhei Yoshida with Predator: Hunting Grounds shirt:
https://twitter.com/yosp/status/1254903458735374338
I want that shirt!!!
Not too bad....
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 30, 2020, 06:05:49 AM
That knife tho...
How does something like that get past balancing and quality control...
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 30, 2020, 06:05:49 AM
That knife tho...
How does something like that get past balancing and quality control...
This is minor issue.
I'm pretty sure until the last days before warping the game, they were actively spending time on debugging rather than balance.
There are still some major problems like Sound Loop (happens almost everytime someone shoot rapidly with the double tape shotgun at a server) or UI element sticking to the screen or models turning to bad LOD triangles or collisions problem or...
Knife is just a tweak that was definitely not the priority.
And I can see why on the coolside, you may want to do a Dutch vs Predator where it's knife vs wristblades.
I've witnessed this with a few game where the last player choose the knife and the Predator player offered a challenge.
Probably the only good vibe I had in the recent days.
Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 30, 2020, 12:56:56 PM]
Knife is just a tweak that was definitely not the priority.
And I can see why on the coolside, you may want to do a Dutch vs Predator where it's knife vs wristblades.
I've witnessed this with a few game where the last player choose the knife and the Predator player offered a challenge.
Probably the only good vibe I had in the recent days.
But one knife still shouldn't do that damage to a Predator. Hence being 4 vs 1, and the correct hopelessness of feeling outmatched at 1 vs 1.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 01:01:39 PM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 30, 2020, 12:56:56 PM]
Knife is just a tweak that was definitely not the priority.
And I can see why on the coolside, you may want to do a Dutch vs Predator where it's knife vs wristblades.
I've witnessed this with a few game where the last player choose the knife and the Predator player offered a challenge.
Probably the only good vibe I had in the recent days.
But one knife still shouldn't do that damage to a Predator. Hence being 4 vs 1, and the correct hopelessness of feeling outmatched at 1 vs 1.
What shouldn't be normal is for your wristblades to need so many hit in the first place.
It has the shortest range of all melee weapon.
It's pretty slow and can't deal with multiple enemies with one hit like the combistick which has an incredible hitbox.
It's weak and requires a lot of hit, not even to mention the buff and support class + quick health relief the fireteam has to make it purely inefficient.
IMO that should be a priority, I actually like the idea of a hand to hand with Predator, it feels good going the dutch way.
But the Predator should definitely have the upper hand I can agree on that and somethign needs to be done with the knife but the predator melee should be the priority first so each class and weapons have their uniqueness and are equally capable of dealing with the fireteam.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 30, 2020, 06:05:49 AM
That knife tho...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEFC8rKsBaA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzvfDSTsIKg
Geez, I'd heard the knife was op even without the parry but yeah, that's just straight-up ridiculous. It's broken to the point where when the Predator shows up it's literally a better idea for everyone to just pull out their knives rather than use their guns.
Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 30, 2020, 01:18:43 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 30, 2020, 01:01:39 PM
Quote from: Le Celticant on Apr 30, 2020, 12:56:56 PM]
Knife is just a tweak that was definitely not the priority.
And I can see why on the coolside, you may want to do a Dutch vs Predator where it's knife vs wristblades.
I've witnessed this with a few game where the last player choose the knife and the Predator player offered a challenge.
Probably the only good vibe I had in the recent days.
But one knife still shouldn't do that damage to a Predator. Hence being 4 vs 1, and the correct hopelessness of feeling outmatched at 1 vs 1.
What shouldn't be normal is for your wristblades to need so many hit in the first place.
It has the shortest range of all melee weapon.
It's pretty slow and can't deal with multiple enemies with one hit like the combistick which has an incredible hitbox.
It's weak and requires a lot of hit, not even to mention the buff and support class + quick health relief the fireteam has to make it purely inefficient.
IMO that should be a priority, I actually like the idea of a hand to hand with Predator, it feels good going the dutch way.
But the Predator should definitely have the upper hand I can agree on that and somethign needs to be done with the knife but the predator melee should be the priority first so each class and weapons have their uniqueness and are equally capable of dealing with the fireteam.
It would be cool if the wristblades had a gimmick where it was an instakill/down when hitting the rear of a player. So it rewards a light sneaky predator, Rather than making it another head-on melee weapon like the combistick.
Technically you can, but you need to down the same person two or three times before they're susceptible to it, so it almost never happens (especially since you can't tell who's who as the Predator, so you can't really target the same person specifically in order to try and do it).
I also feel like that's something they should either have available from the get-go, or possibly have it that everyone who respawns back in via reinforcements can potentially be stealth killed. Right now there's basically no downside whatsoever for reinforcements, so I definitely feel like they need to nerf that in some way.
Quote from: Kailem on Apr 30, 2020, 04:04:58 PM
Technically you can, but you need to down the same person two or three times before they're susceptible to it, so it almost never happens (especially since you can't tell who's who as the Predator, so you can't really target the same person specifically in order to try and do it).
I also feel like that's something they should either have available from the get-go, or possibly have it that everyone who respawns back in via reinforcements can potentially be stealth killed. Right now there's basically no downside whatsoever for reinforcements, so I definitely feel like they need to nerf that in some way.
Interesting, something is not right with this game. The predator is all about those precise 1 hit shots. At least in every other game. Humans being hit sponges with most weapons just doesn't feel right.
Whose knife is this suppose to be? It doesn't resemble Billy or Dutch's. I pulled it at level 50.
Anybody able to get the trophy "So Close, Yet so far"? I'm on my potentially fourth success and the trophy hasn't unlocked. I really don't know what gives about this one, I'm convinced its bugged.
After playing my first day of just a solid fire team I notice that levels 5 - 20 are really easy for the fire team. I was never even downed until like lvl 14. Predators only started winning occasionally after level 20, usually by ambushing one person with the sword, then rushing the rest of the team down. I noticed that 3v1 is surprisingly very possible. In one 3v1 match, we even killed the predator without any losses. I am at level 27 now so there are more power spikes to come I assume.
Another thing I notice is that PC players have a fairly big advantage compared to PS4 players. I am on PC and routinely get the highest score when I play with other players who are using the console. I think this is maybe obvious, but if you had a whole fire team of PC players vs a PS4 predator its going to be a world of hurt for the predator.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 01, 2020, 01:48:41 AM
Anybody able to get the trophy "So Close, Yet so far"? I'm on my potentially fourth success and the trophy hasn't unlocked. I really don't know what gives about this one, I'm convinced its bugged.
We're you able to kill all 4 while they were waiting? I killed 3 and it didn't unlock. Was wondering if it needed to be the whole team.
Quote from: Alien Grand Master on May 01, 2020, 03:52:54 AM
After playing my first day of just a solid fire team I notice that levels 5 - 20 are really easy for the fire team. I was never even downed until like lvl 14. Predators only started winning occasionally after level 20, usually by ambushing one person with the sword, then rushing the rest of the team down. I noticed that 3v1 is surprisingly very possible. In one 3v1 match, we even killed the predator without any losses. I am at level 27 now so there are more power spikes to come I assume.
Another thing I notice is that PC players have a fairly big advantage compared to PS4 players. I am on PC and routinely get the highest score when I play with other players who are using the console. I think this is maybe obvious, but if you had a whole fire team of PC players vs a PS4 predator its going to be a world of hurt for the predator.
You'll soon notice a shift around level 40 where the entire mechanic of fireteam upper hand vs predator reverse.
Even 4v1 seems unfair for some characters/weapons combination (berzerker + combistick).
Scout has potential if there are no snipers on the map.
And yes the cross play is a bit of a pain.
I never thought PS4 would be a problem at the beginning (kind of the old cliché of PC vs Consoles) but after a few games I've noticed that a Predator on PC (or the opposite an entire fireteam on PC vs a PS4 predator) usually has the upper hand, so I guess there's something going on with controls.
Are the key mapped well for the PS4 and do most people change the sensibility of their controller?
Or maybe it's the connection that is slower but I noticed delays reaction (and little attention to sounds) from PS4 players.
I suppose for the sound it comes to the design of the console that has it in the room on a big TV with high volume while PC players tend to sit closer and use headphones giving much better spatial sense.
Quote from: Le Celticant on May 01, 2020, 08:31:31 AM
Quote from: Alien Grand Master on May 01, 2020, 03:52:54 AM
After playing my first day of just a solid fire team I notice that levels 5 - 20 are really easy for the fire team. I was never even downed until like lvl 14. Predators only started winning occasionally after level 20, usually by ambushing one person with the sword, then rushing the rest of the team down. I noticed that 3v1 is surprisingly very possible. In one 3v1 match, we even killed the predator without any losses. I am at level 27 now so there are more power spikes to come I assume.
Another thing I notice is that PC players have a fairly big advantage compared to PS4 players. I am on PC and routinely get the highest score when I play with other players who are using the console. I think this is maybe obvious, but if you had a whole fire team of PC players vs a PS4 predator its going to be a world of hurt for the predator.
You'll soon notice a shift around level 40 where the entire mechanic of fireteam upper hand vs predator reverse.
Even 4v1 seems unfair for some characters/weapons combination (berzerker + combistick).
Scout has potential if there are no snipers on the map.
And yes the cross play is a bit of a pain.
I never thought PS4 would be a problem at the beginning (kind of the old cliché of PC vs Consoles) but after a few games I've noticed that a Predator on PC (or the opposite an entire fireteam on PC vs a PS4 predator) usually has the upper hand, so I guess there's something going on with controls.
Are the key mapped well for the PS4 and do most people change the sensibility of their controller?
Or maybe it's the connection that is slower but I noticed delays reaction (and little attention to sounds) from PS4 players.
I suppose for the sound it comes to the design of the console that has it in the room on a big TV with high volume while PC players tend to sit closer and use headphones giving much better spatial sense.
Aiming and movement, in general, is a lot easier with a mouse and keyboard.
I am at level 37 now, and its probably about 8/10 times the fireteam gets out alive. One time my entire fireteam disconnected and I had to solo the last few objectives, but I managed to get out and kill the predator before dusting off in a chopper, very fun. Still haven't played the predator yet lol.
I am finding that the best perks are the Predator Bane one, the mud one, and the tough skin one. Seems like with the mud perk you can stealth the predator pretty good, but you have to be one your own or else your team will give you away.
Quote from: AnthaiHero on May 01, 2020, 01:06:48 AM
Whose knife is this suppose to be? It doesn't resemble Billy or Dutch's. I pulled it at level 50.
It looks very similar to the knife owned by the legendary Colonel John Matrix, who also did major kinds of damage in Val Verde!
(https://blademag.com/wp-content/uploads/what-is-the-knife-from-the-commando-movie.jpg)
Quote from: AnthaiHero on May 01, 2020, 04:38:05 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 01, 2020, 01:48:41 AM
Anybody able to get the trophy "So Close, Yet so far"? I'm on my potentially fourth success and the trophy hasn't unlocked. I really don't know what gives about this one, I'm convinced its bugged.
We're you able to kill all 4 while they were waiting? I killed 3 and it didn't unlock. Was wondering if it needed to be the whole team.
Full team killed on my end. I'm genuinely unsure of what I'm doing wrong.
I'm have ng fun but I've hardly played the predator.. my son has played it more and he's not too bad and wiping teams.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 01, 2020, 01:10:15 PM
Quote from: AnthaiHero on May 01, 2020, 04:38:05 AM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 01, 2020, 01:48:41 AM
Anybody able to get the trophy "So Close, Yet so far"? I'm on my potentially fourth success and the trophy hasn't unlocked. I really don't know what gives about this one, I'm convinced its bugged.
We're you able to kill all 4 while they were waiting? I killed 3 and it didn't unlock. Was wondering if it needed to be the whole team.
Full team killed on my end. I'm genuinely unsure of what I'm doing wrong.
Just got it. I downed all 4 and collected skulls from two before the match ended. The other two were still crawling around so they weren't completely dead.
Me, Voodoo and Ridgetop played a match last night where I ended up going full Dutch at the end:
Sorry you guys had to die, but I doubt I'll ever be able to top that as my personal best fireteam moment! :laugh:
You hit 2 parries?! Madness!
Yeah I definitely got really lucky there!
I found it easier to try parrying with the left trigger when I had the knife out rather than clicking the melee button, but given that half the time the Predator is hitting you before you even know he's there it's not something you can even do if you're trying to parry while using a gun.
But yeah, I'm happy that at least at the one time when it mattered most I was actually able to win a parry battle! :laugh:
I've been finding it easier to parry on the PC too. I think it's just that damn stick-click.
Quote from: Kailem on May 07, 2020, 02:55:29 AM
Me, Voodoo and Ridgetop played a match last night where I ended up going full Dutch at the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvToeO8E8tk
Sorry you guys had to die, but I doubt I'll ever be able to top that as my personal best fireteam moment! :laugh:
I was blabbing away with Ridgetop until I stopped and said wait, what did I just see?!! :laugh:
I have yet to down a Predator with a knife. Clearly the CIA has me pushing too many pencils.
Watching Hicks' streams I've definitely heard shoulder cannon sound from AvP 2010. I wonder why it's been reused ?
I'll just leave this here.
Quote from: Mama Zerg on May 09, 2020, 08:00:59 PM
I'll just leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPuqX1zDQZ8
Bravo bravo! LOL! Amazing! Love the song and the Predators dancing.
Just ordered the game, should arrive next week. :D
Any tips for new players?
Not only do I have a ton of new tips and a willingness to help I can connect you with a ton of folks who do as well :)
One Predator decimated us with the bow today. I didn't even know what happened at first.
Quote from: razeak on May 13, 2020, 08:50:29 PM
One Predator decimated us with the bow today. I didn't even know what happened at first.
As it should be.
Yeah it was actually pretty cool. We were Ina firefight and I just zeroed. I thought i got headshot by a sniper or something. Well I suppose Indid.
If anyone is interested to get the game cheaper on PC, then follow the instructions below.
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They need to get that Predator Ship from the tutorial, in-game. And boarding it as part of a New Fire Team mission would hit the sweet spot!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 14, 2020, 11:11:34 PM
They need to get that Predator Ship from the tutorial, in-game. And boarding it as part of a New Fire Team mission would hit the sweet spot!
The ship from what I could tell doesn't have a rendered interior. So we would have to wait a bit for a remodel or a new ship. Though I will admit the ship may have changed since the trial (I think the coloration did). It's massive though and I would love to have the fireteam or Predator get right up on it because maneuvering the smart disk around it doesn't do it justice. With the incoming falcon we'll probably get a better look at it.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to work around the barriers in the release. I don't know if it was a geometry thing or if the barriers are just taller but I can't get back around them like prior. I'll try again but I'm not expecting to get a decent look at the release version of the ship but I don't think its that different.
EDIT- Not even two minutes after posting I did it. Alright so I'll see about that ship.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on May 15, 2020, 12:14:22 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 14, 2020, 11:11:34 PM
They need to get that Predator Ship from the tutorial, in-game. And boarding it as part of a New Fire Team mission would hit the sweet spot!
The ship from what I could tell doesn't have a rendered interior. So we would have to wait a bit for a remodel or a new ship. Though I will admit the ship may have changed since the trial (I think the coloration did). It's massive though and I would love to have the fireteam or Predator get right up on it because maneuvering the smart disk around it doesn't do it justice. With the incoming falcon we'll probably get a better look at it.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to work around the barriers in the release. I don't know if it was a geometry thing or if the barriers are just taller but I can't get back around them like prior. I'll try again but I'm not expecting to get a decent look at the release version of the ship but I don't think its that different.
EDIT- Not even two minutes after posting I did it. Alright so I'll see about that ship.
I'm the wind beneath your wings!!! ;D
Screenshots!
Tonight I saw the code of the Matrix:
....then in another match a little later I got stuck in a rock and couldn't make it to the chopper, so it all balances out in the end.
Finally decided to pick this up on PC. Will have to give it a go
Quote from: Stitch on May 15, 2020, 03:23:45 PM
Finally decided to pick this up on PC. Will have to give it a go
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ThoughtfulBoilingBordercollie-size_restricted.gif)
Anyone else seen the new hounds they teased for the Preds?
tbh I'm not the biggest fan and would have preferred the Predators design.
Currently the authenticity is being called into question in the facebook group so I jumped the gun a little.
Quote from: JokersWarPig on May 18, 2020, 02:12:07 AM
Anyone else seen the new hounds they teased for the Preds?
tbh I'm not the biggest fan and would have preferred the Predators design.
Holy shit they teased adding the dogs?! Where was this?
ifonic has a instagram page, aparently someone else has one but ultimately not tied officially.
Nothing really new, but talks HG at about 2.00
Illfonic has finally responded to the crossplay queries! The silence had been so bad for them!
Frustrating.
Looks like the update coming with the new DLC features daily and weekly challenges.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 26, 2020, 02:30:59 PM
Looks like the update coming with the new DLC features daily and weekly challenges.
I saw someone in the facebook group mention you that once you finish the game you have to restart it for the challenge to unlock. Haven't been able to test it yet since I only got 4 or 5 games in since the update but it seems like a simple but inconvenient bug if its true.
Took longer than expected, but it's finally here!
(https://scontent.fcgh37-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/101398126_1472722096233154_4217605112408834048_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=UZUJccAMOkcAX-DkUUi&_nc_ht=scontent.fcgh37-1.fna&_nc_tp=14&oh=f655f2118c244fd361611cf79597bb90&oe=5EF8886D)
Quote from: JokersWarPig on May 27, 2020, 06:22:12 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 26, 2020, 02:30:59 PM
Looks like the update coming with the new DLC features daily and weekly challenges.
I saw someone in the facebook group mention you that once you finish the game you have to restart it for the challenge to unlock. Haven't been able to test it yet since I only got 4 or 5 games in since the update but it seems like a simple but inconvenient bug if its true.
Nope, no such bug. And there is no "finish the game". Its not a single player.
You do have to restart the game for the veritanium you get from completing a daily or weekly challenge to register after you redeem it though, so it is indeed a tad inconvenient.
Do I have to go to quickplay after every game? Can't I just stay in the game until a next match starts?
Also, waiting time for Predator is quite long.
Yeah you have to re-select quickplay after each match to get into another one.
And yep, Predator matchmaking seems to be taking longer tonight than the last few nights, though it's definitely still not as bad as it was before. It'll be a shame if it really was just the release of Dutch that improved the Predator matchmaking times and not anything they did with the patch itself, as I've been loving the much shorter wait times as Predator.
Yesterday I got the Plague mask in one of the lockers, but it's still locked when I try to use it. That happened to anyone? Am I missing something?
Quote from: Katanu on May 30, 2020, 03:24:25 PM
Yesterday I got the Plague mask in one of the lockers, but it's still locked when I try to use it. That happened to anyone? Am I missing something?
You got the mask or one of the color shaders for it? Its a separate item, you need to unlock the default mask first to be able to change to one of the shaders.
Quote from: Samhain13 on May 30, 2020, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Katanu on May 30, 2020, 03:24:25 PM
Yesterday I got the Plague mask in one of the lockers, but it's still locked when I try to use it. That happened to anyone? Am I missing something?
You got the mask or one of the color shaders for it? Its a separate item, you need to unlock the default mask first tô bem able to change to ones of the shaders.
That's problably what it was, thanks man!
On a side note, I really suck at playing as the Predator. Just finished a game where I couldn't even locate the fireteam, they finished their mission an escaped, and our paths never even crossed. Any tips on that?
Press right on the d-pad while in thermal vision to send out a target locator pulse that shows any un-mudded fire team members as a red dot (the smaller white ones are boar that you can kill and eat for health).
It has a long cooldown though so you can't use it all the time. Try to do it as soon as you can when the match starts to give you an idea of where the fire team is and where they're coming from.
If you don't get hits when you use it because the players are mudded, try heading to one of the main compounds to see if they're there. If there are still live NPC soldiers walking around, they're probably not nearby. Also keep an eye out for sound blips when you're using thermal vision mode, as they indicate weapons fire, as well as small flocks of birds that can fly off when disturbed by players (again easiest to see in thermal vision).
I used the locator pulse yesterday and ended up chasing a pig, didn't know there was a difference between their signals. :P
Thanks for the tips, I'll try again today.
Tips for locating fireteam members;
1. Target pulse as this will also show nearby pigs. Note that it wont work on those covered in mud.
2. Set traps (bear traps in front of respawn or in locations with mission objectives will tell you where the trap was sprung).
3. Set a motion detector in areas you know fireteams pass through.
4. The hearbeat sensor thing in thermal isn't just for show, you can actually use that to find fireteam members. It will pulse when you're getting closer.
5. Predators spawn across the map relative to the team. More often than not you'll be in-front of the fireteam so essentially pressing forward will pretty much bring you right to them.
Most of all run private matches to familiarize yourself with the maps and mission objectives. If you haven't already, use this as an excuse to grind weapon levels, currency, and OWLF logs.
Thanks, I'll try using those tips. Unfortunately I can't run private maches because I don't have any friends playing the game. Maybe I can join in private maches with member here.
I'm trying to play as Predator to improve, but...
(https://scontent.fcgh37-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/101824416_1474506492721381_3239873867811913728_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=Sq1b_EZQ4OUAX-XBDK4&_nc_ht=scontent.fcgh37-1.fna&_nc_tp=14&oh=8476b1fb01b17b71833c43c60233428d&oe=5EFA24AE)
::)
Gave up after a 20 minutes wait. I'll go with no preference and hope for a Predator.
I've noticed if the que time exceeds the estimated wait by 2 minutes its best to quit the search and try again. It's worked for me as both Pred and FT.
Yeah, since the Dutch DLC my usual Pred wait time is 2-3+ Minutes. If it exceeds 5 minutes I know somethings wrong and subsequently cancel.
It's a bit of a shame that it does seem like the reason the Predator matchmaking got so good after the patch was just the release of Dutch and not because they fixed anything. The last couple of nights I've definitely noticed it slipping back towards the old pre-patch wait times (though still thankfully they're still not quite that bad......yet).
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 01, 2020, 04:13:48 PM
It's a bit of a shame that it does seem like the reason the Predator matchmaking got so good after the patch was just the release of Dutch and not because they fixed anything. The last couple of nights I've definitely noticed it slipping back towards the old pre-patch wait times (though still thankfully they're still not quite that bad......yet).
I noticed that too. Predator wait times are back to normal now that the Dutch DLC has been out for a while.
More human DLC will help. Harrigan, Royce, Isabelle, the true warrior Rory McKenna. 8)
Ugh, I just had a thought. Wait till the Alpha Predator comes out. Watch those Predator wait times then. :P
"Estimated wait time: tomorrow."
I could definitely get behind a Royce DLC.
Yup!
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 01, 2020, 07:43:15 PM
"Estimated wait time: tomorrow."
:laugh:
and
:'(
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 01, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
More human DLC will help. Harrigan, Royce, Isabelle, the true warrior Rory McKenna. 8)
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I just had a second match in a few days that I just had to straight-up close app on because the framerate took an absolute shit.
Before the latest patch when playing as Predator on PS4 the game would often freeze for several seconds, but now it's even worse. Instead of just freezing and then going back to normal, which is bad enough as it is, the framerate literally drops to 1 or 2 frames per second and just stays that way. I was destroying the fire team when it happened (and they were actually talking to, so it was fun!), and after that it just never went back to normal. I wasn't even in a fight but I had no choice but to close the game because I couldn't do anything, let alone aim, fight, run etc. It became a slideshow.
More than anything else they need to get on a fix to that asap, because it's literally rendering the game unplayable when it happens, and now it's no longer just been a one-off occurrence.
The game is put on sale on PSN and Epic stores (claim a coupon to reduce its price even more).
Had yet another match where the framerate went to hell tonight. It might have something to do with the smart disc, since I'd just thrown it and gotten done with steering it when it happened both times. It seemed like firing off a blast of the plasma caster got it to settle down, but this is going to be really bad if it starts happening every other match.
Reported on the Illfonic boards? Does sound specific. I've not been noticing framerate issues when I've jumped on the PS4 at all.
I've not registered on the Illfonic boards because they seem like a total mess, but I saw today that there's a thread in the bugs section where other people are talking about having the same issues and how it was especially bad yesterday, so it seems like it's not just me.
That sucks. So glad I've never experienced these frame rate issues.
After a bit more testing tonight I'm pretty sure it's a problem with the smart disc. It happened yet again after throwing the disc and having the view return back to the Predator once the throw was complete, and once again firing off one or two plasma caster shots seemed to clear it up.
I don't know whether it might be tied to fire team proximity as well, but given that they recently patched the smart disc to fix an issue where it was going slower than intended on dedicated servers I'm thinking they might have screwed something up to the point where now when you throw it it sometimes goes hyper-laggy as well.
How do you disarm the Predator self-destruct after downing the Predator? It's not like the game gives you a tutorial (that I've found) and you have like 15 seconds to get it right or you're dead. :P
You have to match the Predator symbols at the top with the ones on the bottom. If you can match all four within the time limit you can disarm it, though with this latest patch they made it harder by adding in more symbols that look similar, so it's definitely upped the risk factor considerably over what it used to be.
They choose today to make it a challenge to defuse 3 Predator self-destructs! lol I've managed to do them, and I feel like I'm getting there now with the higher symbol amount. Still so damn satisfying to disarm them.
Agreed. I've gotten a little better at it but it feels much better to actually defuse them now than it used to just because of how difficult it can be. And you really have to down the Predator quick too, otherwise you just don't have the time, which in and of itself is kinda great in making you immediately think "nope, too late, I gotta get outta here!"
Saw this in the Facebook group. Now I want a game mode with 2 Predators and 6 FT members, on a larger map with more/smarter enemy AI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT__AXxuyAI&t=239s
How'd they glitch that?!
The poster said his friend had joined a round mid game and came in as a Predator instead of as an FT member. Pretty interesting/cool though
Didn't think you could join mid-game.
So yeah I'm finding that equipping the new level 10 weapon shaders on any weapon in your loadout seems to be making said loadout reset to default weapons and attachments after each game, so if anyone else is having the same problem try just leaving them be for the time being.
Also last night Hicks discovered the secret moon boots unlockable:
For those wondering, I threw a smoke at him both times for cover, and it sent him flying. :laugh:
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 13, 2020, 05:09:05 AM
Also last night Hicks discovered the secret moon boots unlockable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Iqab5DVY5U
(https://y.yarn.co/680a5a1a-259f-4c0d-8cff-04a82cba7959_text_hi.gif)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2020, 05:23:01 AM
For those wondering, I threw a smoke at him both times for cover, and it sent him flying. :laugh:
That is hilarious! :laugh:
Well I also discovered something myself not as quite comparable to those moon boots but still cool: Competent Stargazer A.I. !!! Seriously, I was surprised with what I witnessed last night and worth a video share when I get back home tonight.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 15, 2020, 04:01:12 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Jun 13, 2020, 05:09:05 AM
Also last night Hicks discovered the secret moon boots unlockable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Iqab5DVY5U
https://y.yarn.co/680a5a1a-259f-4c0d-8cff-04a82cba7959_text_hi.gif
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 15, 2020, 05:23:01 AM
For those wondering, I threw a smoke at him both times for cover, and it sent him flying. :laugh:
That is hilarious! :laugh:
I also liked that the voiceover said "perfect! Not a scratch!" as I returned from orbit and got insta-downed! :laugh:
Proof of intelligent A.I. in Predator : Hunting Grounds. This one took cover. They're not all dumb!
(https://i.ibb.co/86tgWsX/Screenshot-20200615-230519-You-Tube.jpg)
Yeah I noticed last night that those shaders had disappeared again and figured they'd locked them back up because of the loadout bug.
And speaking of shaders, has anyone only just started getting shaders for the hammerhead rifle/never gotten anything from Dutch in loot boxes? I got Dutch day one but had never gotten a single one of his shaders from the loot boxes before so I finally figured I'd just unlock one of his shaders with veritanium, then after that I got about five or six hammerhead shaders from various crates for the first time ever.
It feels like unlocking that first shader manually sort of jolted the game into realising "oh yeah, you should be getting shaders for this stuff too." Either that or it's something they only just fixed along with locking up these cursed level 10 ones. Though I've still not gotten any for Dutch himself from the loot boxes either, so it's still not working completely.
I've never gotten a Dutch item from a box, but I bought a shader for the hammerhead last night.
It could be because I passed rank 115 last night which is apparently the rank that you unlock the hammerhead for free now, so maybe all that stuff is just unavailable in crates until you get to that point (and I assume then that means Dutch's shaders will never be available since he's still only paid DLC).
At least if that's the case I can look forward to potentially getting a few less duplicates all the time now since I've got a whole new gun's worth of shaders to get instead.
Who needs Hell Hounds when you have Hogs sniffing out your prey!
He'd come to see if you were alright!
They were working as a team! Watch the corner of the screen as the Predator was making another trophy out of us. That Pig stood by its side during the carnage!!!!
Damn Predator Pig!!!
Anyone know when this month's paid DLC will comes out by chance?
The Samurai Predator hits June 30th.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 26, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
The Samurai Predator hits June 30th.
Thank you! Also nice job on the Predator Hunting Grounds review AvPG podcast Voodoo Magic!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 26, 2020, 03:25:07 AM
Who needs Hell Hounds when you have Hogs sniffing out your prey!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRQbdK8-KY
"Pigs and Predators living together......mass hysteria!"
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 26, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
The Samurai Predator hits June 30th.
Seems to be the last Tuesdays of the month.
Quote from: shadowedge on Jun 26, 2020, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jun 26, 2020, 05:40:01 PM
The Samurai Predator hits June 30th.
Thank you! Also nice job on the Predator Hunting Grounds review AvPG podcast Voodoo Magic!
Yeah, he did great! He's appearing in our next one too!
Yes I am! 8) I'm still rough around the edges unfortunately compared you smooth as silk podcast veterans, but I hope to improve!
Thanks shadowedge! :)
Yep, was great having you on Voodoo. Maybe we'll like the book more than Aaron did.
Took a few screens to show off the new Preds. This game is just begging for a photo-mode.
https://twitter.com/ridgetop21/status/1278066782276706304
have illfonic mentioned anything on the social channels about a potential photo mode?
It would be nice!
Until then Ridgetop will have to suffice with taking pictures of us like he does his French Predators. :laugh:
Also, some datamined plasma caster images look to suggest that Mr Black, Scar and City Hunter are all on the way:
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/06116be9ae88f13a6a4bdc7841263d3d855813c1.jpeg)
Thanks for the datamine!
I guess this does confirm it if we can find models. I have a feeling all the guns will works the same so I doubt we're going to see Berserkers go rapid fire unless it replaces the charge shot.
Interesting to me they just call it Berserker. They'll probably go with Berserker (2010) but it's interesting they don't have dates on any of them. Jungle Hunter did though it's going to be interesting to note if that means we will be getting another JH in the future given the leaks about Dutch 87. Being that it might be less JH is very much still dead and more making a distinction so they can use another.
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 05, 2020, 09:49:33 AM
Until then Ridgetop will have to suffice with taking pictures of us like he does his French Predators. :laugh:
Also, some datamined plasma caster images look to suggest that Mr Black, Scar and City Hunter are all on the way:
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/06116be9ae88f13a6a4bdc7841263d3d855813c1.jpeg)
Nice find Kailem!
I'm really liking that third one! ;)
Here's a few other finds.
Firstly, for those who wanted to see the ship in the front:
(https://i.imgur.com/gN9gs6l.jpg)
Pretty much the same design as the fugitive ship from The Predator.
Now for the good stuff, here are some other files that were found:
Check out some of the names here...
(https://i.redd.it/5m8rh6z5xa951.png)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hmggmu/yautja_smautja_got_a_nap_in_and_just_wanted_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
City Hunter's WIP Face:
(https://i.redd.it/zeui1n8z7b951.png)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hmhlfw/look_how_they_massacred_my_boy_ok_city_is_looking/
More shots of the shoulder cannons:
(https://i.redd.it/ds9tjykcm2951.jpg)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hlq345/the_datamined_shoulder_cannons/
Shruiken in flight:
(https://preview.redd.it/z87tm4yzzz851.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c69c24d62254c67c9ad11cd1ba635d90426dcee2)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hlj5be/shuriken/
Wow, that Predator ship model really does look nice from the front! I thought The Predator did a good job with those designs so I'm ok with seeing it make a return here.
And "crash site" is definitely an interesting file name. Would be really cool if a downed Predator ship was a major feature of a new map.
Personally, I'm a bit more fixated on 'GameMode_LoneWolf.'
That's something related to offline/single player Predator missions for sure. The trophy for beating the tutorial reads "complete all Lone Wolf missions", which reads like it might be a holdover and that they originally wanted more of those in the game but cut them out, or are planning on adding them in the future a la Friday the 13th but just didn't change the wording for some reason.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 07, 2020, 07:19:18 AM
Here's a few other finds.
Firstly, for those who wanted to see the ship in the front:
(https://i.imgur.com/gN9gs6l.jpg)
Pretty much the same design as the fugitive ship from The Predator.
Now for the good stuff, here are some other files that were found:
Check out some of the names here...
(https://i.redd.it/5m8rh6z5xa951.png)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hmggmu/yautja_smautja_got_a_nap_in_and_just_wanted_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
City Hunter's WIP Face:
(https://i.redd.it/zeui1n8z7b951.png)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hmhlfw/look_how_they_massacred_my_boy_ok_city_is_looking/
More shots of the shoulder cannons:
(https://i.redd.it/ds9tjykcm2951.jpg)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hlq345/the_datamined_shoulder_cannons/
Shruiken in flight:
(https://preview.redd.it/z87tm4yzzz851.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c69c24d62254c67c9ad11cd1ba635d90426dcee2)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntingGrounds/comments/hlj5be/shuriken/
Thanks for sharing RidgeTop!
In the Shuriken reddit thread, someone also mentions a seemingly "Dutch 1987" skin.
Had a real Hawkins moment in my last fireteam match:
It was so cool I wasn't even mad about being killed!
Haha yeah that was pretty cool. Sometimes it's best to just stand still and wait for the right moment to strike. That was the elder sword she took you down with right?
Yeah. I got one parry off but by that point I'd already taken so much damage that it didn't matter. I had no idea she was even anywhere nearby, so I was definitely taken by complete surprise!
Wow Kailem... that was.... embarrassing.
;)
Also here's Rico the Predator Whisperer charming a Predator. Which begs us to ask the question...
Why hunt them... when we can love them! ♡♡♡
:D I always try to offer friendship as the Predator if it's two FT members or less.
So this happened to me in a recent match:
Had this guy DTR after getting a couple shots on him, in a few more seconds they proceed to parry me multiple times with slashes in-between bringing me from full health to zero completely 1v1. I think the knife still needs some work. Maybe something like 1 parry per 5 seconds or slower slashes for a few seconds after a parry.
its terrible. I use the combistick mostly, rarely much else and I can't stand how they can just block every single predator attack. I've had players actually run after me to knife me when I'm low on health. That shouldn't be a thing, the ultimate alien master of martial arts should not be outmanuevered and outclassed by a little human soldier in the art of bladed combat. They really need to fix this tbh, ruins the game for me
I mean two Predators do get killed with blades. Falconer goes down to a sword (not a knife but still a pointy stick) and City Hunter died over his own weapon. I am willing to let that slide given there is enough justification that it would be a threat to them.
I hate the parry with the knife but I get it. On other hand the knife damage should be decreased, they can increase the guns damage to make up for that. Sometimes knifing the Predator during a claim appear to give more damage than shooting it.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 25, 2020, 05:05:58 PM
:D I always try to offer friendship as the Predator if it's two FT members or less.
So this happened to me in a recent match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eecLvz1OsGo
Had this guy DTR after getting a couple shots on him, in a few more seconds they proceed to parry me multiple times with slashes in-between bringing me from full health to zero completely 1v1. I think the knife still needs some work. Maybe something like 1 parry per 5 seconds or slower slashes for a few seconds after a parry.
Did the damage came from only that one guy? After the parry both Predator and fireteam get stunned for a second, its like the guy didn't, he shouldn't be able to give you damage that fast. Something feels off in the video. I have dealt with a shitload of high level knifers and have never seen anything like that, the knife swings are way too fast.
Quote from: Tichinde on Jul 26, 2020, 02:47:51 AM
I've had players actually run after me to knife me when I'm low on health.
Throwing the spear or using the netgun works well against that. The guy is gonna try to come close so it should be easy to hit the target.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 25, 2020, 05:05:58 PM
:D I always try to offer friendship as the Predator if it's two FT members or less.
So this happened to me in a recent match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eecLvz1OsGo
Had this guy DTR after getting a couple shots on him, in a few more seconds they proceed to parry me multiple times with slashes in-between bringing me from full health to zero completely 1v1. I think the knife still needs some work. Maybe something like 1 parry per 5 seconds or slower slashes for a few seconds after a parry.
Wow, you weren't kidding! That was even worse than I was expecting! There's no way he should have been able to do that much damage that fast!
I have zero problems with parrying being a thing because the fire team needs some way of defending themselves against a Predator's melee attacks (especially if that's all he's doing), and the main point of it is to stagger the Predator long enough for everyone else to shoot him and hopefully scare him off. But the actual amount of damage the knife does to him is still ridiculous.
When the knife becomes the go-to weapon to take down a Predator over assault rifles and machine guns, that feels a bit busted.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jul 26, 2020, 05:53:46 AM
Did the damage came from only that one guy? After the parry both Predator and fireteam get stunned for a second, its like the guy didn't, he shouldn't be able to give you damage that fast. Something feels off in the video. I have dealt with a shitload of high level knifers and have never seen anything like that, the knife swings are way too fast.
Someone on the Illfonic forums claimed that this is an exploit where you can knife faster while standing still or something. Not sure if that's true or not though.
Another example here, this one even crazier:
This has got to be some kind of exploit. Again he's standing in place while doing it. I thought parrying a couple times puts a FT member into exhausted state after the initial balance patch?
Hmm. I'm suspecting perks like Yautja's Bane also in play.
I think the problem may be your Predator was very static in this melee fight, with feet planted in place. Try moving in half-circles around your prey RT! It fixed most of my parry problems, it may fix yours! :)
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 26, 2020, 08:22:40 PM
Another example here, this one even crazier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSRJ5st5dbs
This has got to be some kind of exploit. Again he's standing in place while doing it. I thought parrying a couple times puts a FT member into exhausted state after the initial balance patch?
He didn't get stunned when he blocked it, its like the parry and the knife slash were happening at the same time. Were those guys on PC? I'm sure some here encountered players using aimbot/fast shooting during the past months. It looks like something similar but with the knife.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 26, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Hmm. I'm suspecting perks like Yautja's Bane also in play.
I heard that was one of the perks that wasn't working. Some guys on facebook said to have made a comparison with and without some perks and there was no difference.
I'm not saying parrying shouldn't be a thing, but it should be to stagger the Predator once or twice to open the situation up for your team to save you. The Predator is supposed to be overpowered that's the point of asymmetrical multiplayer, as a team you bring him down. I've had multiple instances now of one guy, and always standing still, bringing me close to zero health just by slashing away.
The original balance patch said:
-Increased stamina required to parry
-Parrying without enough stamina will now cause you to enter an exhausted state
So what is this 'exhausted state' that happens when parrying too much? Doesn't seem to be a thing.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 26, 2020, 10:47:28 PM
I'm not saying parrying shouldn't be a thing, but it should be to stagger the Predator once or twice to open the situation up for your team to save you. The Predator is supposed to be overpowered that's the point of asymmetrical multiplayer, as a team you bring him down. I've had multiple instances now of one guy, and always standing still, bringing me close to zero health just by slashing away.
The original balance patch said:
-Increased stamina required to parry
-Parrying without enough stamina will now cause you to enter an exhausted state
So what is this 'exhausted state' that happens when parrying too much? Doesn't seem to be a thing.
As a Fireteam main that had my own fine share of knife vs wristblades fights, I gotta say this is the first time I seen this. Everytime I block Predator attacks, I also get stunned alongside Predator and even though I recover much quicker, the Predator never remains stationary and the Pred player would try to circle me, find different angles to get at me and I do the same too. If Yautja's Bane isn't in effect, it is possible that Heavy Hitter is also in play.
I oughta post these vids on r/HuntingGrounds, as I frequent there a lot, see if they ever witnessed or know anything else about this.
Already posted them there as well.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jul 26, 2020, 09:52:22 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 26, 2020, 08:40:04 PM
Hmm. I'm suspecting perks like Yautja's Bane also in play.
I heard that was one of the perks that wasn't working. Some guys on facebook said to have made a comparison with and without some perks and there was no difference.
Really? Someone measured Yautja's Bane as a 10% bump on Reddit so I've been using it on a few of my loadouts. Being such an expensive perk, I'd hate to find out it's useless.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 27, 2020, 01:34:45 AM
As a Fireteam main that had my own fine share of knife vs wristblades fights, I gotta say this is the first time I seen this. Everytime I block Predator attacks, I also get stunned alongside Predator and even though I recover much quicker, the Predator never remains stationary and the Pred player would try to circle me, find different angles to get at me and I do the same too. If Yautja's Bane isn't in effect, it is possible that Heavy Hitter is also in play.
Heavy Hitter has been surmised to be very effective. But yeah, my advice too as a Predator is move around during melee. And anytime you're parried a second time, get the heck out of there and regroup. But move around. You never want your melee attacks turning into a Russian Slapping Competition with a fireteam member. That never turns out well!
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/overgrowth-map-temporarily-disabled-7-28/12538
Looks like they've dropped Overgrowth out of rotation. Probably while they work on these map exploits that have been found.
Thank God, they just nerfed the Parry again in the latest patch.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1288209050837094406
Man the Pred matchmaking times today are ridiculous.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 28, 2020, 11:50:49 PM
Man the Pred matchmaking times today are ridiculous.
Still are on the ridiculous side. Kinda why I tend to only play as Fireteam mostly.
This was on the cover of the biggest gaming magazine here in Finland last month. I was very excited when I saw the cover:
(https://www.pelit.fi/site/assets/files/123089/pel_2020_6.jpg)
It got 84/100. The reviewer seemed to like it. The game is a lot better than most reviews say.
Glad to see a good review.
Gotta be honest, after this last patch I'm discouraged.
It seems like there are more bugs in each one, it's going the wrong direction. I'm encountering them way too much now.
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/2cb24dc4c2be03f4852d0a0b39cf73fa3476d9a4.jpeg)
It's been floating around the Ilfonic boards and the Reddit page. Not sure if it's legitimate but it's definitely got people hyped on both.
It's legit, looks like the artist just removed it from his Instagram.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 29, 2020, 07:01:07 PM
Gotta be honest, after this last patch I'm discouraged.
It seems like there are more bugs in each one, it's going the wrong direction. I'm encountering them way too much now.
:-[ what do you think that's down to? are they rushing their patches?
Yeah they said they were adding a 1987 skin for Dutch lol. Pretty cool
I just hope Dutch '87 is a free skin/class that comes with the new upcoming update (Like how they did with Elder) and not another paid DLC cuz I just hate the thought of various Predator classes that the Pred side have but only two variations of the same beloved character. More Fireteam content please!
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jul 31, 2020, 08:35:32 PM
I just hope Dutch '87 is a free skin/class that comes with the new upcoming update (Like how they did with Elder) and not another paid DLC cuz I just hate the thought of various Predator classes that the Pred side have but only two variations of the same beloved character. More Fireteam content please!
Agreed! Getting more FT content should, one would think/hope, get more players selecting FT and helping to reduce the Predator queues. And having new missions/classes/characters would be a welcome sight for this game.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 29, 2020, 07:01:07 PMGotta be honest, after this last patch I'm discouraged.
It seems like there are more bugs in each one, it's going the wrong direction. I'm encountering them way too much now.
Yeah same here. At launch it felt like they were really on top of things with regards to quick patches and balance fixes. Now it feels like each new patch is breaking more things than it's fixing. There seem to be multiple new bugs with City Hunter alone now to the point where it's definitely a little deflating to see this happening again and again.
Quote from: Kailem on Aug 01, 2020, 05:25:17 PM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jul 29, 2020, 07:01:07 PMGotta be honest, after this last patch I'm discouraged.
It seems like there are more bugs in each one, it's going the wrong direction. I'm encountering them way too much now.
Yeah same here. At launch it felt like they were really on top of things with regards to quick patches and balance fixes. Now it feels like each new patch is breaking more things than it's fixing. There seem to be multiple new bugs with City Hunter alone now to the point where it's definitely a little deflating to see this happening again and again.
Thankfully they seem to be aware of the worst ones:
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1289245150133116928
I noticed a few glitches myself such as how the value of collecting Veritanium had lowered significantly and muddying up glitches once or twice before I can properly mud myself. There was a few times when Fireteam reinforced itself and my weapons didn't load and soon enough a Pred made an easy kill of me.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 30, 2020, 10:14:15 PM
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/2cb24dc4c2be03f4852d0a0b39cf73fa3476d9a4.jpeg)
It's been floating around the Ilfonic boards and the Reddit page. Not sure if it's legitimate but it's definitely got people hyped on both.
If I didn't know any better I'd swear it's a photo
I hope the 1987 Dutch skin will be free for the people who have bought the previous Dutch DLC.
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 02, 2020, 10:38:31 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jul 30, 2020, 10:14:15 PM
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/2cb24dc4c2be03f4852d0a0b39cf73fa3476d9a4.jpeg)
It's been floating around the Ilfonic boards and the Reddit page. Not sure if it's legitimate but it's definitely got people hyped on both.
If I didn't know any better I'd swear it's a photo
Right? The attention to detail is excellent as well as the overall quality of the rendering.
Yep
I think he looks amazing! That is soo good.
Question; Is it me, or has the collection average value of Veritanium lowered significantly? I used to collect like around 2,000 on average for this stuff but now it almost goes down to bellow 1,000 in a good match. Maybe one of the patches undid the increased veritarium value or just my imagination.
above 2000 was considered the highest and never was the normal. 1000 was the normal if you looked for higher larger blocks of V....typically if you're casually looking and not desperately looking it would be more like 100-500.
I found OWLF recording when playing as the Predator. I thought you could only find them when playing as Fireteam.
Quote from: Galactus123 on Aug 08, 2020, 10:24:56 AM
I found OWLF recording when playing as the Predator. I thought you could only find them when playing as Fireteam.
Nope, you can find them as both, if it doesn't bug out.
I thought I had secured my last recording the other night, but when I climbed the rope at the Exfil, my 20th still eludes me. :-\
Quote from: Galactus123 on Aug 08, 2020, 10:24:56 AM
I found OWLF recording when playing as the Predator. I thought you could only find them when playing as Fireteam.
It's rare, but you can even get them as a Predator by killing a fireteam player who has one. They'll drop it when you claim them and you can pick it up off their body.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: Galactus123 on Aug 08, 2020, 10:24:56 AM
I found OWLF recording when playing as the Predator. I thought you could only find them when playing as Fireteam.
Nope, you can find them as both, if it doesn't bug out.
I thought I had secured my last recording the other night, but when I climbed the rope at the Exfil, my 20th still eludes me. :-\
Overgrowth?
I was today years old when I learned that a flintlock pistol, viking battle Axe, and samurai sword were trophies you can earn in P: HG. They really need to increase those weapon drops so more than 5 people on this planet have at least one of the legendary trophies
I'm convinced that after that patch a while back where they increased the drop rares for the super rare stuff by some unspecified amount that they subsequently patched them back down again. I'm one of the lucky ones in that I've got three trophies, but all of those came around the time they upped the drops (along with several knife skins), and I've opened literally hundreds since then and not gotten even one more.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2020, 11:54:33 PM
above 2000 was considered the highest and never was the normal. 1000 was the normal if you looked for higher larger blocks of V....typically if you're casually looking and not desperately looking it would be more like 100-500.
Damm, must be a phony memory I supposed. I guess I'm used to this new grind now and it would be nice if it increased a bit again.
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:39:32 PM
I was today years old when I learned that a flintlock pistol, viking battle Axe, and samurai sword were trophies you can earn in P: HG. They really need to increase those weapon drops so more than 5 people on this planet have at least one of the legendary trophies
For such a rare item, the chance of getting duplicates should also be decreased. I seen so many times of people getting upset of getting a legendary of the same trophy they already have. And when they do get duplicates, its around 2,000 I believe which is very little for a super rare item. Value should increase to ease the pain at least, like say around 20,000?
On the topic of trophies, more trophy options and ability to carry more on a Pred please! Wearing all three skulls would be pretty cool to add more of the tribal look on my pred or showing he's been around alot with the time period trophies.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 08, 2020, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Aug 07, 2020, 11:54:33 PM
above 2000 was considered the highest and never was the normal. 1000 was the normal if you looked for higher larger blocks of V....typically if you're casually looking and not desperately looking it would be more like 100-500.
Damm, must be a phony memory I supposed. I guess I'm used to this new grind now and it would be nice if it increased a bit again.
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 08, 2020, 04:39:32 PM
I was today years old when I learned that a flintlock pistol, viking battle Axe, and samurai sword were trophies you can earn in P: HG. They really need to increase those weapon drops so more than 5 people on this planet have at least one of the legendary trophies
For such a rare item, the chance of getting duplicates should also be decreased. I seen so many times of people getting upset of getting a legendary of the same trophy they already have. And when they do get duplicates, its around 2,000 I believe which is very little for a super rare item. Value should increase to ease the pain at least, like say around 20,000?
On the topic of trophies, more trophy options and ability to carry more on a Pred please! Wearing all three skulls would be pretty cool to add more of the tribal look on my pred or showing he's been around alot with the time period trophies.
Lol for more trophy options part of me wants to rock out with the concrete jungle skull belt and shoulder pads... or... maybe... just maybe I could have like a Xeno head on my chest like broken tusk :o
Quote from: Kailem on Aug 08, 2020, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from: Galactus123 on Aug 08, 2020, 10:24:56 AM
I found OWLF recording when playing as the Predator. I thought you could only find them when playing as Fireteam.
It's rare, but you can even get them as a Predator by killing a fireteam player who has one. They'll drop it when you claim them and you can pick it up off their body.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 08, 2020, 11:29:05 AM
Quote from: Galactus123 on Aug 08, 2020, 10:24:56 AM
I found OWLF recording when playing as the Predator. I thought you could only find them when playing as Fireteam.
Nope, you can find them as both, if it doesn't bug out.
I thought I had secured my last recording the other night, but when I climbed the rope at the Exfil, my 20th still eludes me. :-\
Overgrowth?
Derailed, surprisingly.
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin' (what?)
Keep rollin' rollin' rollin' rollin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yKGErz1fz4
The timing on that Dutch line at the end of your video was perfect, Voodoo.
Some good news via the Illfonic Forums:
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(https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/117133000_632424257677375_5202873348716563232_n.png?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=UJPHUA8XFhcAX-90-Ps&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=7e012a88b1b0f0b1a8baa54571484663&oe=5F563B66)
Seems like they've been engaging with their forum members more.
Just yesterday I couldn't heal or jump, this is the second time this happened this month. I lost the match where I was beating FT asses. They really need to fix some of this gamebreaking stuff man
The Predator still got some issues going, apart from the automatic long claim and eating pigs bug, there was those times when the Predator froze and I couldn't do anything at all.
Yeah the freezing is a huge problem. It's happened to me so many times playing Predator that I'm amazed it hasn't screwed me out of more matches than it has, to be honest. Most of the time it's pure luck that the fire team isn't looking at me when it happens, because it feels like it's literally every other match or so that somewhere near the end it'll just lock up for about 5 seconds or more.
Good to hear about the new map though. Fingers crossed we might actually, finally get one next week, assuming that's when they're going to drop this month's free content.
I hope the next one does a lot to fix things, and we get the new map. Got to admit I'm taking a break now.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 10, 2020, 09:33:38 PM
The timing on that Dutch line at the end of your video was perfect, Voodoo.
Hoping one day I can time a Harrigan's "Who's next?" just as well. :)
But yeah, Kailem and I had probably our best ass-kicking night. We must have been all out of bubblegum. 8)
*reference alert*Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 10, 2020, 09:33:38 PM
Some good news via the Illfonic Forums:
(https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/116874413_935869443555203_8310887551959427659_n.png?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=GCBQzjwEAHMAX9IUaa7&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=f2af3b014ff618474339cb0dac5c6c80&oe=5F575D62)
(https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/117133000_632424257677375_5202873348716563232_n.png?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=UJPHUA8XFhcAX-90-Ps&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=7e012a88b1b0f0b1a8baa54571484663&oe=5F563B66)
Seems like they've been engaging with their forum members more.
That is good news! And adding gameplay challenges to both sides is music to my ears!
Quote from: Kailem on Aug 11, 2020, 04:36:48 AM
Good to hear about the new map though. Fingers crossed we might actually, finally get one next week, assuming that's when they're going to drop this month's free content.
I'm feeling more September (but I'd love to be wrong).
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2020, 08:27:57 AM
I hope the next one does a lot to fix things, and we get the new map. Got to admit I'm taking a break now.
Breaks? Did you say "break"? No one breaks until we decide to break! Did we break when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
*2nd reference alert*
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2020, 08:27:57 AM
I hope the next one does a lot to fix things, and we get the new map. Got to admit I'm taking a break now.
I still haven't even managed to play a game with people yet!
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 11, 2020, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2020, 08:27:57 AM
I hope the next one does a lot to fix things, and we get the new map. Got to admit I'm taking a break now.
I still haven't even managed to play a game with people yet!
Connect....
to....
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I saw someone mention this earlier, but I'm level 140 and I've had my biomask blown off in multiple games and its a pain in the ass, but why doesn't the elder have the added laser sight on the caster so you could still aim it with that when your bio is off? Would be a tiny little benefit of using elder over say the hunter or alpha class
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2020, 01:14:19 PM
Breaks? Did you say "break"? No one breaks until we decide to break! Did we break when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! *2nd reference alert*
He's British, man. Chill
Correct me if I wrong but I always thought it was Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor ?
Oh my God. Alright, they NEED to patch the cabin on backwater just had two games in a row where a dude hid there and I could do f**k all. Annoying as hell
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 12, 2020, 08:18:28 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2020, 01:14:19 PM
Breaks? Did you say "break"? No one breaks until we decide to break! Did we break when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! *2nd reference alert*
He's British, man. Chill
Correct me if I wrong but I always thought it was Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor ?
From Animal House:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 12, 2020, 06:55:40 AM
I saw someone mention this earlier, but I'm level 140 and I've had my biomask blown off in multiple games and its a pain in the ass, but why doesn't the elder have the added laser sight on the caster so you could still aim it with that when your bio is off? Would be a tiny little benefit of using elder over say the hunter or alpha class
Currently as far as I'm aware they've got no mechanic in place for the laser since Elder is the only one who currently has a laser sight without the mask and his had to be their since he's modeled on his incarnation from Predator 2.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2020, 10:46:48 AM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 12, 2020, 08:18:28 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2020, 01:14:19 PM
Breaks? Did you say "break"? No one breaks until we decide to break! Did we break when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no! *2nd reference alert*
He's British, man. Chill
Correct me if I wrong but I always thought it was Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor ?
From Animal House:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
Well, that explains a lot
I'm here to educate!!! ;D
Now let me explain why the City Hunter's mask in Predator: Hunting Grounds is terrible!
(https://media1.tenor.com/images/97b86a94da853c008452d780ad212052/tenor.gif?itemid=12489265)
Anyone have any good pics of the NPC enemies? I've looked everywhere and can't find any.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2020, 05:33:44 PM
I'm here to educate!!! ;D
Now let me explain why the City Hunter's mask in Predator: Hunting Grounds is terrible!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/97b86a94da853c008452d780ad212052/tenor.gif?itemid=12489265
Come on VM. You know that the City Hunter's mask in P: HG is a
(https://media.tenor.com/images/83656b47455d23569085f799e99a83f5/tenor.png)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2020, 07:18:09 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Aug 11, 2020, 01:34:46 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 11, 2020, 08:27:57 AM
I hope the next one does a lot to fix things, and we get the new map. Got to admit I'm taking a break now.
I still haven't even managed to play a game with people yet!
Connect....
to....
https://64.media.tumblr.com/d611eb5dae2b20c4b6827a0280d00033/tumblr_mxo5lzbecy1rw9vqmo1_400.gif
OK, maybe I should clarify. I've not been able to play a game with AVPG people yet. Better? :P
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Aug 13, 2020, 01:25:38 AM
Anyone have any good pics of the NPC enemies? I've looked everywhere and can't find any.
Have a gander in the Concept Art and Renders thread. I posted a bunch from ArtStation in the past.
Quote from: molasar on Aug 13, 2020, 01:26:45 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 12, 2020, 05:33:44 PM
I'm here to educate!!! ;D
Now let me explain why the City Hunter's mask in Predator: Hunting Grounds is terrible!
https://media1.tenor.com/images/97b86a94da853c008452d780ad212052/tenor.gif?itemid=12489265
Come on VM. You know that the City Hunter's mask in P: HG is a
https://media.tenor.com/images/83656b47455d23569085f799e99a83f5/tenor.png
:laugh:
A beautiful butterfly that looks great in the dark. With the television off.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2020, 04:30:46 PM
:laugh:
A beautiful butterfly that looks great in the dark. With the television off.
You can't see the mask of the demon, until him come callin.
Quote from: molasar on Aug 13, 2020, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2020, 04:30:46 PM
:laugh:
A beautiful butterfly that looks great in the dark. With the television off.
You can't see the mask of the demon, until him come callin.
You can't see the mask of the demon.....
...until him come quacking. (https://i.ibb.co/HnrPdjx/unnamed-3.png)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2020, 11:56:32 PM
You can't see the mask of the demon.....
...until him come quacking.
(https://i.ibb.co/HnrPdjx/unnamed-3.png)
(https://media3.giphy.com/media/cmjxqGDaVTH3apOeLa/giphy.gif)
Ridgetop was straight gangster tonight with that revolver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzzMJogY3rA
I expect we're getting our free update today. We'll see!
Quote from: molasar on Aug 14, 2020, 01:19:47 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 13, 2020, 11:56:32 PM
You can't see the mask of the demon.....
...until him come quacking.
(https://i.ibb.co/HnrPdjx/unnamed-3.png)
https://media3.giphy.com/media/cmjxqGDaVTH3apOeLa/giphy.gif
:laugh:
Quote from: Kailem on Aug 14, 2020, 07:07:13 AM
Ridgetop was straight gangster tonight with that revolver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzzMJogY3rA
I kept him healthy with medkits so I'll accept some of the credit
*bows*Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 14, 2020, 02:44:32 PM
I expect we're getting our free update today. We'll see!
Let's hope!
Nothing so far. I'm beginning to think it might not be today after all. :-\
Yeah... might be Tuesday. Oh well.
What are we expecting just curious? Think they are gonna raise the level cap or just add a few skins?
Voodoo I nearly spit out my coke from your City Ducker :D
As for what I'm expecting, probably the 87 Dutch, those accessories for the FT helmets and if Dutch isn't payed it's going to be Scar or Berserker.
Thought crossed my mind though, Scar would definitely be worth the price if through him we could recreate Celtic, Chopper and the Elder (though likely missing the cape). The AVP Elder could end up being another progression reward, and Celtic and Chopper could be represented through the armor styles since they use the same bodies with small alterations to armor (I don't think they're otherwise physically that different). Scar I could imagine would come with his own mask but I could see them having a variant be either his unmarked or marked version.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 14, 2020, 09:42:06 PM
Voodoo I nearly spit out my coke from your City Ducker :D
I don't know. I feel it's heart-breaking watching Voodoo making fun of something he was supposed to love :'(
Would be really cool if scar came with the scimitar as his gear for his class like how city hunter came with the launcher. Obviously he needs his shuriken and the sweet AVP combistick
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 09:51:34 PM
Would be really cool if scar came with the scimitar as his gear for his class like how city hunter came with the launcher. Obviously he needs his shuriken and the sweet AVP combistick
That could be a cool gear option. I think Chopper and the Predator in the flashback had both wristblades and scimitar but scimitar would be cool for an OP wristblade. Like it uses more stamina but has higher damage.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 14, 2020, 10:32:46 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Aug 14, 2020, 09:51:34 PM
Would be really cool if scar came with the scimitar as his gear for his class like how city hunter came with the launcher. Obviously he needs his shuriken and the sweet AVP combistick
That could be a cool gear option. I think Chopper and the Predator in the flashback had both wristblades and scimitar but scimitar would be cool for an OP wristblade. Like it uses more stamina but has higher damage.
Huh, funny you mention that, I always assumed the lred at the start was chopper, hence the skulls he has im 2004 *shrug*
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 09:47:41 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 14, 2020, 09:42:06 PM
Voodoo I nearly spit out my coke from your City Ducker :D
I don't know. I feel it's heart-breaking watching Voodoo making fun of something he was supposed to love :'(
(https://i.imgur.com/Wv9B8DQ.jpg)
:D
Now I feel myself much better. Thanks
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 14, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 09:47:41 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 14, 2020, 09:42:06 PM
Voodoo I nearly spit out my coke from your City Ducker :D
I don't know. I feel it's heart-breaking watching Voodoo making fun of something he was supposed to love :'(
(https://i.imgur.com/Wv9B8DQ.jpg)
Now that's gold. ;D
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 15, 2020, 12:35:48 AM
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 14, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Aug 14, 2020, 09:47:41 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 14, 2020, 09:42:06 PM
Voodoo I nearly spit out my coke from your City Ducker :D
I don't know. I feel it's heart-breaking watching Voodoo making fun of something he was supposed to love :'(
(https://i.imgur.com/Wv9B8DQ.jpg)
Now that's gold. ;D
:laugh:
That was me in the lobby of Illfonic corporate right before they called the police!
"Ducks! DUCKS! THEY"RE ATTACKING!"
Some of these Stargazer soldiers are really hardcore:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4gkoSyUVrw
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 13, 2020, 08:02:29 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Aug 13, 2020, 01:25:38 AM
Anyone have any good pics of the NPC enemies? I've looked everywhere and can't find any.
Have a gander in the Concept Art and Renders thread. I posted a bunch from ArtStation in the past.
Thanks a million for the heads up. Found exactly what I was looking for and more.
QuoteNext release will be substantial. Very substantial. There will be a number of fixes for some particularly annoying issues (ie Predators should no longer auto-snack on boars), and...
I'll get myself into trouble. What I will say I'm expecting the next two weeks to be very exciting.
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/its-getting-worse-and-worse/13207/34
Meanwhile:
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/hEc4k5pN17GZq/200.gif)
Its either going to come out tomorrow and the paid monthly update somewhere in the 25-28th range, or its going to be one big fat ass update at once at the end of the month. Hopefully its worth the wait.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 18, 2020, 05:43:06 PM
Hopefully its worth the wait.
From your lips to Harrigan's ears.
I'm hoping they bundle in some City Hunter fixes in that update too.
I mean we know stuff is in development. We've seen Scar, Berserker, 87 Dutch, shuriken, falcon, confirmed a map, said map being set at night or that maps will be getting night variants, FT accessories, and new FT gear.
August is pretty much asking if we're getting some or all of it. Worst thing about the wait is not knowing "what's in the box".
https://twitter.com/ridgetop21/status/1295648545370824706
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 19, 2020, 12:26:04 AM
https://twitter.com/ridgetop21/status/1295648545370824706
That was impressive! Nicely timed. Did you get the defuse?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 18, 2020, 05:43:06 PM
Its either going to come out tomorrow and the paid monthly update somewhere in the 25-28th range, or its going to be one big fat ass update at once at the end of the month. Hopefully its worth the wait.
I think we might just be getting a big update on the 25th with paid and free.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Aug 19, 2020, 12:26:04 AM
https://twitter.com/ridgetop21/status/1295648545370824706
A point blank sniper barrage! Love it! :laugh:
That last shot was a thing of beauty though RidgeTop. Was that on PC or PS4?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=603o_jxvkXc(https://media1.tenor.com/images/96aeb32e43ae977812a48346c47a4685/tenor.gif?itemid=144024937)
Me and Ridgetop also encountered this poor fellow in a match last night. It looks like the Predator really messed him up good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOPFI0BKTho
Sales figures for Predator Hunting Grounds:
https://gamstat.com/games/Predator_Hunting_Grounds/
Figures for Doom Eternal in comparison:
https://gamstat.com/games/Doom_Eternal/
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 27, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
Sales figures for Predator Hunting Grounds:
https://gamstat.com/games/Predator_Hunting_Grounds/
Figures for Doom Eternal in comparison:
https://gamstat.com/games/Doom_Eternal/
Not bad numbers at all. A little over half a million for a non AAA game. This is just PS4. Who knows how many people own it for PC. Might be closer to 800,000 total.
Quote from: shadowedge on Aug 27, 2020, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 27, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
Sales figures for Predator Hunting Grounds:
https://gamstat.com/games/Predator_Hunting_Grounds/
Figures for Doom Eternal in comparison:
https://gamstat.com/games/Doom_Eternal/
Not bad numbers at all. A little over half a million for a non AAA game. This is just PS4. Who knows how many people own it for PC. Might be closer to 800,000 total.
Agreed. Also what's impressive to me is generally how many accounts have nothing but Predator Hunting Grounds compared to Doom Eternal that has double the sales. It tells me that the game probably did a pretty good job luring Predator fans to purchase a PS4 (like myself!)
600 accounts (0.1%) with nothing but Predator: Hunting Grounds
700 accounts (0.06%)with nothing but Doom Eternal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej7cpr7YNqk
Do you guys think he's right, that Fireteam is way too powerful or just sour that Preds can't dominate so easily anymore? For me, I see that Fireteam had a increased chance of winning, as most plays Preds always win games. Not only that but also makes the game more challenging and last longer, as before the current patches, Preds can dominate in the first 3 minutes if they are decent. Perhaps though the damage output is too much, just a few inches back it should be pulled.
Granted I agree that the bow should be fixed as arrows going through targets with no damage and even I agree that headshots shouldn't be nerfed (arrows to the head should be always painful after all). I think that the biggest point I agree with is that graphic setting on PC should be blocked or optimized to always include jungle foliage cuz it really isn't fair that people are taking advantage of lower settings to kill Pred players.
Predators had to change up tactics as of 2.0 and certain players didn't know how much they'd have to change. Melee builds are basically dead with hybrid and ranged builds having better results.
Predators can still win, they just have to play a bit more aggressive and not rush FT as well as not get into second wind. Like the minute health starts dropping too low they need to back off which a lot of players don't. About a minute ago I was running against a samurai who if they just backed off the team a bit they could've had us. Being a bit more patient at range is a must which a lot of current Predators don't have.
If you play as a Predator and go into Second Wind now and the FT has the ability to spam some UAVs, fogetaboutit. You're toast. The UAVs reversed Illfonic's limiting the Pred's bloodtrail patch and then some.
I'm a Melee only pretty much. I use the combistick and plasma firearm but the plasma firearm desperately needs a buff for it's base damage, It takes 4 headshots to currently take out an FT member, and the only reason I know that is because they stand still when they revive. Not to mention they increased the recoil and made the rate of fire slow as hell.
So from a Melee only Samurai build I will tell you what works for me and allows me to still practice my craft without losing too much. I lost a few games, but I've also beaten a few really good PC teams. (I don't turn crossplay off 8))
First thing this new patch made me realize for Samurai is the speed. This goes for you Berserkers too, you need to realize you have about 2 jumps at minimum, but running adrenal boost is a must. It gives you three and gives you a CHANCE to get away when you go into second wind.
Second thing is don't just try to claim anymore. My main strat back before this patch was to tear the skull out of almost every FT member as soon as I killed them. Even if I took a little damage, I could mostly just shrug it off. It was especially effective for that one annoying knifer who follows me around and tries to slash me to death. now, FORGET THAT! You should consider yourselves as the new scout class. You are a dainty little bitch from Yautja Prime that probably screams at a paper cut. You down someone, camp the body. Seems like something everyone already knows, but camping the bodies and downing people until death is the best strat. FT's expect you to come in for the claims, they will wait for it. Just keep killing the guys as they get up and you can do a lot better.
Third thing, premade FTs who stick together are impossible to rush head on. Impossible to engage in a shootout from distance. If you haven't already, learn to trick the FTs. this means using your audio distractions, using the mimicry wheel, even just roaring to make them think you are healing. It's all about subverting these teams long enough to kill one guy. From there your job becomes easier. 4 man teams seem to crumble when you kill one of their buddies, from there they go for reinforcements, and they will waste it even if they lose one guy. This leaves them vulnerable. Helpful little tip is that if you can get ahead of an FT looking for a revive, there are barrels in some of the revive spawnpoints, wait for them to revive the guy then shoot a barrel, this will do damage forcing them to waste heals.
Fourth and most important. Know what team you are going against, it will help you decide whether or not you want to rush them and play aggressively or if you can afford to hang back a little bit more. A team who rushes the objectives are the most dangerous team. It means they want to get out and don't care about fighting you. Best process of dealing with them in this case is obvious. Attack them while they are dealing with the AI who does more damage now. From there you can force them to divert attention and take damage or catch them by surprise, but be careful. if a four man squad manages to make it to the chopper point, they are almost unbeatable. it's a small area and four guys will melt even the strongest classes in less than a second. More important, if you are going against "Predator Hunter" kinda players, who specifically would rather fight you than do the objective, play longer. Make them use up the heals and resources, make them pay for every inch of ground they try to gain on you. Make them waste reinforcements etc. You have 15 minutes of hunting time with these people and if they don't get out you win anyway so enjoy it. these are my favorite matches.
overall just be more aware now that you are no longer able to just run up kill someone and claim as a berserker. That's not an option. It's not an option if you run impenetrable, it's not an option no matter what. You have to play from different angles and force the FT to split up. Some teams, most of the better teams will have one guy who tries to chase you down. Don't feel like you are powerless, you aren't. You just have to be smart. I personally don't like these changes, they make me feel less like an alien badass and more like a cheap weakling who needs to hang back. Either way though, if you are like me and you want to play like a warrior. You still have to be smart, you have to work a lot harder to beat good teams but the feeling you get from beating a cocky FT with basically just a stick is honestly worth it. I hope they eventually balance it, but until then, I hope this helps.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 27, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
Sales figures for Predator Hunting Grounds:
https://gamstat.com/games/Predator_Hunting_Grounds/
Figures for Doom Eternal in comparison:
https://gamstat.com/games/Doom_Eternal/
While I'm not a fan of the game (until a single player predator option comes in), I'm glad it has done well. Finally get some goodwill back to the franchise.
I need a reminder, so datamining suggested that there are three maps coming in soon, however there is mention that one map and one mode is dropping in the next patch. Is it actually one map or three? Would be a great thing if it was three maps.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 13, 2020, 08:08:12 PM
I need a reminder, so datamining suggested that there are three maps coming in soon, however there is mention that one map and one mode is dropping in the next patch. Is it actually one map or three? Would be a great thing if it was three maps.
We know of one and a game mode.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 27, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
Sales figures for Predator Hunting Grounds:
https://gamstat.com/games/Predator_Hunting_Grounds/
Figures for Doom Eternal in comparison:
https://gamstat.com/games/Doom_Eternal/
Let's do some math:
570,000 units x $40 = $22,800,000 in sales
We have no idea what the game cost but I'm gonna guess it's in the $10-$15 million range (which is on the cheaper end of PS4 games). So I'm guessing that Sony/Illfonic are probably right around the break-even mark or have already surpassed it and are beginning to turn a profit.
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Sep 14, 2020, 10:19:50 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Aug 27, 2020, 05:08:56 PM
Sales figures for Predator Hunting Grounds:
https://gamstat.com/games/Predator_Hunting_Grounds/
Figures for Doom Eternal in comparison:
https://gamstat.com/games/Doom_Eternal/
Let's do some math:
570,000 units x $40 = $22,800,000 in sales
We have no idea what the game cost but I'm gonna guess it's in the $10-$15 million range (which is on the cheaper end of PS4 games). So I'm guessing that Sony/Illfonic are probably right around the break-even mark or have already surpassed it and are beginning to turn a profit.
Don't forget DLC, and of course, PC game sales.
I can't seem to find the figures for PC sales but I'd assume that those sales would most likely bump the game into the green. As for DLC, that probably goes towards financing the additional content (though again I'm just guessing). Maybe if Hicks gets to talk to the guys at Illfonic again he could ask them about the budget. I know in the previous podcast interviews the Illfonic guys mentioned several times how tight their budget was without giving a specific number.
We have a new game mode and map coming out (assuming with more Zeus voice actor work) that I don't estimate would have come out if it was a financial failure.
So hear, hear to a Predator Gaming success!! :)
Quote from: molasar on Sep 20, 2020, 07:38:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGRshVlhZso
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/VgByRZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsTrvuE-trg
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/J9DJYZ
Thanks for sharing molasar. These were cool.
Imagine if they looked like this in-game! :o
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 21, 2020, 01:41:04 PM
Imagine if they looked like this in-game! :o
It could be impressive together with other assets on this level. I guess these models have been made for reference purposes to create in-game models.
Perhaps we will have something close to it on PS6, XSX2, GeForce 60 (60xx) series on Unreal Engine 6.
Just bumped into RidgeTop and Kailem on Hunting Grounds.
My buddy was like "probably talking about how much I suck", nah they're probably gonna joke about how much I sucked. It was great running a match with you guys. ;D
Out of people here I think I only played with Hicks once.
Old Dutch should carry around a Viking Axe that can do ice damage. :laugh:
Honestly though, is it possible for Hunting Grounds to get a visual upgrade with the new Unreal Engine and PS5? Only if its a remaster but I don't know about a complete overhaul on a new engine entirely unless there is some new technical marvel I missed out on that can do just that.
He should be able to use the spear. He's done that before to kill them in the logs, but i feel like that would be OP for the FT to have
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 10, 2020, 07:50:48 PM
Old Dutch should carry around a Viking Axe that can do ice damage. :laugh:
We need Mr. Freeze skin right now
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 10, 2020, 02:41:01 AM
Just bumped into RidgeTop and Kailem on Hunting Grounds.
My buddy was like "probably talking about how much I suck", nah they're probably gonna joke about how much I sucked. It was great running a match with you guys. ;D
Well I don't recall us losing any of the matches we played that night and blaming anyone we played with for it, so I can confirm that we weren't! :laugh:
https://www.illfonic.com/illfonic/meet-the-developer-steve-whetman/
Quote from: Kailem on Oct 11, 2020, 02:50:02 PM
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 10, 2020, 02:41:01 AM
Just bumped into RidgeTop and Kailem on Hunting Grounds.
My buddy was like "probably talking about how much I suck", nah they're probably gonna joke about how much I sucked. It was great running a match with you guys. ;D
Well I don't recall us losing any of the matches we played that night and blaming anyone we played with for it, so I can confirm that we weren't! :laugh:
Uh, those were drunken Predators you played, so...
;)
Sounds like, as usual, the new patch broke things again. I'm seeing a lot of posts on Illfonic's forums about Predators crashing after being parried and that joining private matches resets your loadouts.
At least they're consistent! :P
Quote from: Kailem on Oct 29, 2020, 08:38:13 PM
Sounds like, as usual, the new patch broke things again. I'm seeing a lot of posts on Illfonic's forums about Predators crashing after being parried and that joining private matches resets your loadouts.
At least they're consistent! :P
Specializations weren't enough for the Fireteam, now they have the ability to parry the Predator back to lobby.
I think one of the issues is they don't test play their games, or they are bad at it and therefore think Fireteam needs buffs to win but in reality they aren't skilled enough to understand how a skilled Fireteam can really wipe Predator blood off the face of the map. I remember one of the devs on twitter mentioning that they haven't even played Predator in a while so that was kind of alarming. I need to look for that one but that isn't a good sign if this is the case.
One thing that would help greatly is if Predators also have class specializations. If you go to each of the species loadout options, they have "default" under each slot, with Fireteam obviously having their specialization options. Predators don't but it seems like the option to add one in the future is there. I hope thats the case cuz it would help make the classes very diverse in gameplay as well.
Based on the strength of Hunting Grounds, I would wager the devs are onto their next game and most of the Predator updates have been handed off to a secondary unit.
Alas, Predator specializations would indeed be cool!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 12:25:26 PM
Based on the strength of Hunting Grounds, I would wager the devs are onto their next game and most of the Predator updates have been handed off to a secondary unit.
Alas, Predator specializations would indeed be cool!
Secondary unit.........
(flashes back to development of Aliens Colonial Marines)..........dude if thats the case I'm honestly slightly terrified. The passion of the main team woun't be 100% there and last thing we need is that.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 30, 2020, 04:25:42 AM
I remember one of the devs on twitter mentioning that they haven't even played Predator in a while so that was kind of alarming. I need to look for that one but that isn't a good sign if this is the case.
I ran into a dev Predator the other week - ran an Elder with downrange then proceeded to plasma spam most of the match.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 31, 2020, 12:05:22 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 12:25:26 PM
Based on the strength of Hunting Grounds, I would wager the devs are onto their next game and most of the Predator updates have been handed off to a secondary unit.
Alas, Predator specializations would indeed be cool!
Secondary unit.........(flashes back to development of Aliens Colonial Marines)..........dude if thats the case I'm honestly slightly terrified. The passion of the main team woun't be 100% there and last thing we need is that.
Since the Alpha release, it feels like something changed, quality control went down, so it's just a guess of mine. :-\
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 04, 2020, 11:52:49 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Oct 31, 2020, 12:05:22 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 30, 2020, 12:25:26 PM
Based on the strength of Hunting Grounds, I would wager the devs are onto their next game and most of the Predator updates have been handed off to a secondary unit.
Alas, Predator specializations would indeed be cool!
Secondary unit.........(flashes back to development of Aliens Colonial Marines)..........dude if thats the case I'm honestly slightly terrified. The passion of the main team woun't be 100% there and last thing we need is that.
Since the Alpha release, it feels like something changed, quality control went down, so it's just a guess of mine. :-\
That's because each new patch also brings in new unpredictable bugs. Now when a Pred attacks close combat and a Fireteam blocks it, goodbye game, hello blue screen of death!!! It happened a couple of times for me now to notice its actually very annoying. Its like Illfonic takes three steps forward, they go two steps back.
I seriously wonder if they even have play testers as not only there is new bugs that ruin gameplay flow with every patch but balancing seems to shift to Fireteam's favor too much. And I say this as a Fireteam main. I'm all for a challenge but putting a Predator in second wind under five seconds by a single Fireteam is actually a problem. These new specialization options also stack damage with whatever perks you have so you can totally melt a Predator if you don't move even more quickly enough than previously before. It says alot if I always recommend the Adrenaline Boost for stamina recovery in every build cuz if you aren't moving you are already dead. Additionally, it would help if there was also Specialization options for Predator to even out the new power scale in the NEXT PATCH soon.
At this point, these issues need to get resolved as the playerbase is starting to get really angry, and this time its a bit more justified.
This last one was like one step forward and three steps back.
Didn't fix any previous bugs, brought new ones, made the game more unbalaced but hey the new predator skins were cool. :P
Quote from: Samhain13 on Nov 05, 2020, 11:14:01 AM
This last one was like one step forward and three steps back.
Didn't fix any previous bugs, brought new ones, made the game more unbalaced but hey the new predator skins were cool. :P
haha - it's all about the skins to customize :/
I agree with the balance statement made by Mr. Turok - a mediocre FT can either melt or keep a good Predator at bay with the specializations and damage increases. And not to mention that already powerful FT squads (that use Discord and train on a consistent basis) are now damn near unbeatable because one minor mistake as Predator and you're toast whereas FT can make multiple mistakes and still win with relative ease.
I get this game is geared towards casual gamers since that is where the money is but Illfonic is turning off the dedicated player base after each patch/DLC.
PS5 backward compatibility testing
https://youtu.be/etiSHm7raTo?t=136
Still only 30fps? That's a little disappointing. Though I'll certainly take that over the current framerate in Clash, which feels like it drops down to 10 or 15 at times.
Hopefully a new update can fix that. I hope they don't ignore the opportunity to improve and draw in new people with the release of the PS5.
At this point with the tech we have, there is no excuse for not having 60fps and updated visuals.
Looks like Illfonic just dropped some masks.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 18, 2020, 05:45:31 PM
Looks like Illfonic just dropped some masks.
I see a storm trooper in one of them 8)
So if I had to guess, the masks that got leaked are probably the content drops in the months in-between the Holiday/spring updates. With this it would mean that Hunting Grounds actually does get a free update for November and we can presume next month will be the big one. When I'm not sure since I don't know if Illfonic will get the day or week off but this is a good sign regardless that we'd see support between big drops. Probably wont be fairly large updates if this is anything to go by but it's a good sign regardless.
I guess this means the other masks that got leaked might be January and that leaves February unaccounted for. March I'd assume is when we'd see the next big update (spring) if Google is to be believed.
I didn't have to download an update for this either so I guess today all they did was turn it on so players could see it. In that case if it's not already in then we will probably know what's in February once the Holiday update hits.
https://twitter.com/FnVoodooMagic/status/1339769676939800577
(https://i.imgflip.com/2su33t.jpg)
;)
:laugh:
The hat is key. The hat is life.
#TheHat
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 24, 2020, 05:17:59 PM
https://twitter.com/FnVoodooMagic/status/1339769676939800577
:o How have you done it ?
Quote from: Kailem on Dec 24, 2020, 05:24:24 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/2su33t.jpg
Notice how every girl in the picture looks like Lisa but with different hair and skin colour
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 24, 2020, 06:14:33 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 24, 2020, 05:17:59 PM
https://twitter.com/FnVoodooMagic/status/1339769676939800577
:o How have you done it ?
I willed him into existence!
(I also used the customization feature)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 26, 2020, 04:01:08 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Dec 24, 2020, 06:14:33 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 24, 2020, 05:17:59 PM
https://twitter.com/FnVoodooMagic/status/1339769676939800577
:o How have you done it ?
I willed him into existence! (I also used the customization feature)
Into canon. Harrigan is part of PHG now lol.
Now all I have to do is record Harrigan lore tapes in my bad Danny Glover voice!
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 27, 2020, 01:21:32 PM
Now all I have to do is record Harrigan lore tapes in my bad Danny Glover voice!
Some ganja will help you with this, man.
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Quote from: molasar on Dec 27, 2020, 02:53:13 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 27, 2020, 01:21:32 PM
Now all I have to do is record Harrigan lore tapes in my bad Danny Glover voice!
Some ganja will help you with this, man.
https://www.scifimoviezone.com/imageavp/predator2017.jpg
Hey, why does Harrigan sound so paranoid in his lore tapes? :laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 27, 2020, 06:02:51 PM
Hey, why does Harrigan sound so paranoid in his lore tapes? :laugh:
Because bad memories about heights and birds e.g. a crazy ass goose.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OStX_wrWGg
Yikes!
As someone who wants Harrigan back, I do wonder how they are going to fit him in the game story wise. The excuse for Dutch being able to fight on the field alongside younger and more able soldiers is due to the experimentation of Predator DNA and medical tech. Harrigan 1997 is one thing seeing how Dutch 1989 is just handwaved as a skin, but Harrigan 2025 is another area entirely. I just don't see him accepting experimentation on him, judging by his character.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2020, 05:50:21 PM
As someone who wants Harrigan back, I do wonder how they are going to fit him in the game story wise. The excuse for Dutch being able to fight on the field alongside younger and more able soldiers is due to the experimentation of Predator DNA and medical tech. Harrigan 1997 is one thing seeing how Dutch 1989 is just handwaved as a skin, but Harrigan 2025 is another area entirely. I just don't see him accepting experimentation on him, judging by his character.
Well, Harrigan is in his 30s in 1997 per the novelization I believe? I would have to double check that, but let's say he's 32 during Predator 2 in 1997. Then in 2025 Harrigan is 60. Give him the speed of support but I think if Harrigan kept himself in shape, he'd be fine to battle Predators at 60. He'd be excellent to lead a team at least.
I mean Arnold was 56 at the point of Terminator 3.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 28, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Well, Harrigan is in his 30s in 1997 per the novelization I believe? I would have to double check that, but let's say he's 32 during Predator 2 in 1997. Then in 2025 Harrigan is 60. Give him the speed of support but I think if Harrigan kept himself in shape, he'd be fine to battle Predators at 60. He'd be excellent to lead a team at least.
I mean Arnold was 56 at the point of Terminator 3.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/81/aa/0d/81aa0d4045eb22c8503ca56f38c0fc1e--terminator--arnold-schwarzenegger.jpg
That would make sense, given his character. The man didn't even give in during Drug Wars, chasing down that fugitive Predator without missing a beat. Plus he was always the team leader; we see it in Predator 2 with his crew in LA and even training elite police units to combat dangerous criminals around the world after retiring. I can see a Assault/Support hybrid class on his own, having perks that help coordinate with Fireteam better.
Now its just the matter of how will he agree with joining OWLF, seeing his experience with them the first time was a horrible first impression. :laugh:
You could explain it as he's one of Dutch's crew. He's not there for the OWLF, he's present because of his prior experience which makes him an asset to Dutch since Predator survivors can be few and far between. Dutch was present at the very least for the end if not post-Predator 2 stuff so he might've been at least aware of Harrigan.
We're also on missions in the game through Fireteam Voodoo whom Zeus could've brought on Harrigan for dealings with cartels and a potential Predator.
Though if added he could just as easily be his appearance from 97 and it simply doesn't need an explanation aside from some flavor text saying who he is.
I could see him coming with a knife skin that changes the knife into the smart disk and maybe his pistol or shotgun from the movie. Maybe a perk to spot Predator and ability to parry better since he went head to head with City Hunter.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2020, 10:55:48 PM
Now its just the matter of how will he agree with joining OWLF, seeing his experience with them the first time was a horrible first impression. :laugh:
The OWLF guys were just a bunch of *ssholes. But even Keyes finally broke protocol and let Harrigan
in the know of all the top secret Predator details, so I doubt Harrigan's relationship with OWLF is irreparable. Not like Dutch and the CIA that ultimately set up his team for the "expendable assets" they were. That sh*t is broken. But Keyes kept warning Harrigan to stay out of it because he doesn't know what he's dealing with. In a way, directly or indirectly, Keyes was trying to keep Harrigan's team safe. So I don't see an issue with a higher up from OWLF saying
Hey Harrigan, I agree Keyes was an ass, but I want you to lead a team. I mean, how can Harrigan go to regular cop duty anyway after all that?
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 28, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2020, 05:50:21 PM
As someone who wants Harrigan back, I do wonder how they are going to fit him in the game story wise. The excuse for Dutch being able to fight on the field alongside younger and more able soldiers is due to the experimentation of Predator DNA and medical tech. Harrigan 1997 is one thing seeing how Dutch 1989 is just handwaved as a skin, but Harrigan 2025 is another area entirely. I just don't see him accepting experimentation on him, judging by his character.
Well, Harrigan is in his 30s in 1997 per the novelization I believe? I would have to double check that, but let's say he's 32 during Predator 2 in 1997. Then in 2025 Harrigan is 60. Give him the speed of support but I think if Harrigan kept himself in shape, he'd be fine to battle Predators at 60. He'd be excellent to lead a team at least.
I mean Arnold was 56 at the point of Terminator 3.
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/81/aa/0d/81aa0d4045eb22c8503ca56f38c0fc1e--terminator--arnold-schwarzenegger.jpg
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2020, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2020, 10:55:48 PM
Now its just the matter of how will he agree with joining OWLF, seeing his experience with them the first time was a horrible first impression. :laugh:
The OWLF guys were just a bunch of *ssholes. But even Keyes finally broke protocol and let Harrigan in the know of all the top secret Predator details, so I doubt Harrigan's relationship with OWLF is irreparable. Not like Dutch and the CIA that ultimately set up his team for the "expendable assets" they were. That sh*t is broken. But Keyes kept warning Harrigan to stay out of it because he doesn't know what he's dealing with. In a way, directly or indirectly, Keyes was trying to keep Harrigan's team safe. So I don't see an issue with a higher up from OWLF saying Hey Harrigan, I agree Keyes was an ass, but I want you to lead a team. I mean, how can Harrigan go to regular cop duty anyway after all that?
Bit too late for the party, I guess, but nonetheless:
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2020, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2020, 10:55:48 PM
Now its just the matter of how will he agree with joining OWLF, seeing his experience with them the first time was a horrible first impression. :laugh:
The OWLF guys were just a bunch of *ssholes. But even Keyes finally broke protocol and let Harrigan in the know of all the top secret Predator details, so I doubt Harrigan's relationship with OWLF is irreparable. Not like Dutch and the CIA that ultimately set up his team for the "expendable assets" they were. That sh*t is broken. But Keyes kept warning Harrigan to stay out of it because he doesn't know what he's dealing with. In a way, directly or indirectly, Keyes was trying to keep Harrigan's team safe. So I don't see an issue with a higher up from OWLF saying Hey Harrigan, I agree Keyes was an ass, but I want you to lead a team.
Thats true. Hell, even the OWLF has been reformed and reborn with Keyes' son at the helm. I just wonder what would lead Harrigan to say yes, seeing that he retired decades later from being a cop, which brings us to a point..........
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2020, 02:16:44 PM
I mean, how can Harrigan go to regular cop duty anyway after all that?
I honestly wondered the same after reading Drug War! All those years of being in the force and then retiring after all of that? I doubt it was that simple to lead a normal life knowing about the existence of alien life, and a hostile one at that. Not even a shred of mentioning OWLF or possibly meeting Dutch to discuss stories about their encounter? Granted, this story was written before Hunting Grounds but man it still sucks that somethings couldn't make it through. Even Gaber retired from OWLF to sell weapons in Brazil was so weird, seeing he was Keyes' loyal right hand man and deeply shares the same vision.
I mean selling weapons in Brazil? ::) I wonder if its possible to rewrite the short story. I know that rewriting short stories into bigger ones isn't new in media.
In a wonderful anthology of wonderful stories, Drug War was just utter disappointment in my opinion in so many ways. It doesn't exist in my headcanon. :-[
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 08, 2019, 04:40:41 PM
When ex-cop Harrigan spoted ex-owlf Garber at a gun show so many years later, and being so much older, how I craved for them to call a truce, grab a beer together, and talk. There's only a few people in the world who can have a conversation about a Predator, who can talk about what happened in LA. Who can truly understand what was gained and what was lost. There's stuff both probably have kept burried deep inside for a long time. And to explore none of this, and instead opt for a backstory on a comic relief character named Fernando who wants to be a movie star, was such a missed opportunity. It still makes me sad. :'(
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 09, 2021, 03:14:21 PM
In a wonderful anthology of wonderful stories, Drug War was just utter disappointment in my opinion in so many ways. It doesn't exist in my headcanon. :-[
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 08, 2019, 04:40:41 PM
When ex-cop Harrigan spoted ex-owlf Garber at a gun show so many years later, and being so much older, how I craved for them to call a truce, grab a beer together, and talk. There's only a few people in the world who can have a conversation about a Predator, who can talk about what happened in LA. Who can truly understand what was gained and what was lost. There's stuff both probably have kept burried deep inside for a long time. And to explore none of this, and instead opt for a backstory on a comic relief character named Fernando who wants to be a movie star, was such a missed opportunity. It still makes me sad. :'(
Like the premise isn't that bad, another Predator encounter in Rio de Jairo, just the execution was so poorly done. Harrigan could have been doing the retirement business just the same, training new police units and soon comes across Garber who is here following on a new Predator lead. Harrigan getting prepared for the new encounter, while catching up with Garber on OWLF events after 1997. Meanwhile the bad blood Predator is hunting around indiscriminately, causing chaos. Having a Predator bad blood would be a cool antagonistic dynamic for Harrigan and Garber, dealing with a new form of Pred they haven't seen before. The ending of the enforcer Predators taking in the bad blood was an interesting ending, as it mirrors them doing their job like Harrigan does. Would have been neat if they recognized him due to the stories of the Lost Tribe telling others about the LA Hunt and honor him still fighting the good fight even in advanced age. While I understand the idea of Fernando being the middle man/comic relief/guide for the protags to follow in this new environment, it really did center around him too much.
This story still can be fixed, or at least it turns out differently in my mind lol
Nice ideas. I really like your Bad Blood angle! 👏
That, a bit of retrospection, a dash of introspection and the exorcizing of Fernando and I'd certainly be singing quite a different tune about it!
Now all we need is a DeLorean and a Flux Capacitor! :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 11, 2021, 10:52:24 PM
Nice ideas. I really like your Bad Blood angle! 👏
That, a bit of retrospection, a dash of introspection and the exorcizing of Fernando and I'd certainly be singing quite a different tune about it!
Now all we need is a DeLorean and a Flux Capacitor! :)
I would honestly love if they take the short story, rewrite it into a good comic or its own novel. The premise itself, again is already very interesting that I want to see more from it.
Oh and I just realize to add to my ending version, if Garber is still alive by the end, have him or another OWLF representative ask Harrigan help train a new team of Fireteam Voodoo who are also operating in the region, seeing that they too had Predator encounters and are loosely working with OWLF during their counter-terrorism missions. Just a nice tie in to Hunting Grounds!
Quote from: Kradan on Jan 15, 2021, 10:40:59 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jan 15, 2021, 09:16:20 PM
Fireteam Voodoo
:D ;D :D
Man idk what they are called, Zeus be calling them both names during gameplay so I just slapped them together. I honestly think that the name Fireteam sounds so generic, it should have been something cool like the Bloodstone Unit or something.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1354184856243236867?s=20
Illfonic streaming in just over two hours. Hopefully we might get our first look at Isabelle tonight, and perhaps even (hopefully) some words or hints at future DLC. Otherwise it would seem a bit strange to be doing a stream at all, especially when there's only half a week left until February when she's due to come out.
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 27, 2021, 08:46:40 PM
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1354184856243236867?s=20
Illfonic streaming in just over two hours. Hopefully we might get our first look at Isabelle tonight, and perhaps even (hopefully) some words or hints at future DLC. Otherwise it would seem a bit strange to be doing a stream at all, especially when there's only half a week left until February when she's due to come out.
I would be surprised if they gave any look at the DLC - they have yet to do that outside of the outline of the character. And more than likely, the next update will be released in the middle of the month rather than at the beginning.
Don't get me wrong, it would be great if they shared information or 'looks' but each time the question is raised about future content/delivery dates/updates/etc., it is met with the same response: "We cannot say anything but when we can, we will let you know."
That's what makes me think they might be showing it off tonight, since if they're not planning on it then it seems a bit pointless to be having a dev stream like this so close to when they said the DLC would be coming out in the first place (though granted when they first said "February" I was expecting the end of Feb too).
Plus it only invites a ton of "where's the DLC?" questions in the chat throughout the entire stream if they're just doing one for no real reason. So I'm crossing my fingers that we might at least get something out of this.
EDIT: Nope, never mind, you're right. Stream just started and they're already at the "we're not talking about future DLC" responses in the chat. Oh well, end of February it probably is then!
So nothing of interest at all?
Unfortunately, it would seem not mate. :-\
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 27, 2021, 09:54:14 PM
EDIT: Nope, never mind, you're right. Stream just started and they're already at the "we're not talking about future DLC" responses in the chat. Oh well, end of February it probably is then!
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 28, 2021, 08:14:16 AM
So nothing of interest at all?
Nothing of substance - the general statement was 'we have a lot of good stuff coming'. I raised the question about releasing to Steam but was met with crickets. I also asked about cross-platform progression which Illfonic moderator said to put that in the 'Feedback' section of the forum. I think the forum is pretty awful and it seems like it is just a bunch of bickering and screaming into a void.
Yeah I was like "isn't their official forum mostly just people bitching about balance over and over again?"
I did catch that they're planning to have another patch out before the February update, but to be honest I mostly tuned out early on when I saw them say in the chat that they wouldn't be showing or talking about any future DLC in this stream.
Quote from: Kailem on Jan 28, 2021, 07:02:01 PM
Yeah I was like "isn't their official forum mostly just people bitching about balance over and over again?"
Haha - pretty much...or people just trolling to troll, which I don't get but whatever. There is so much noise on that forum that I feel like actual constructive threads are lost in the chaos.
Yeah, I tried for a little while to start with to keep up to date with it all but it quickly became noise. There's a reason I never tend to regularly frequent the official boards.
Its been said by OldKingHamlet, one of the community devs, that they have a strong policy they are forced to follow about talks for the info of future releases during streams so anyone who ever has plans to ask for future content in these streams should stop now.
In fact, here is a better rundown by the man himself:
(https://i.imgur.com/bVW7xqU.png)
Just the nature of games in a larger media franchise I suppose. A smaller developer working with a massive publisher and another massive IP holder wants to avoid getting into trouble.
Can't blame them I guess.
Reposting from the Illfonic boards but I was browsing Twitter and a dev post looking at the setup left something interesting.
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They could blur the image but couldn't hide the red Predator U.I from creeping out. So why blur that if it's a map/Predator/gear that we've seen before? My guess one or all of those might actually be in a coming update. We know Berserker is in the pipeline and so I think Berserker might actually be the free part of the February update. Why blur a Predator if it's a class we've already seen? It could be a new map but my money is on the Predator given we've even seen the animations for Berserkers plasmacaster.
Hopefully this is the new mode for single player of the Pred: https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/lone-wolf-time-attack-mode/18915
New female Predator "Valkryie" arrives today. It's on PSN but at this time unable to be purchased. Norse Hammer (her new weapon) will be available free through gameplay in April.
Not sure if this means Isabelle was actually the blacked out image of Valkyrie or if Isabelle is free. Given the aesthetic choice I'm wondering if the Viking and Valkyrie would've been on Earth at the same time.
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https://blog.playstation.com/2021/02/16/new-year-new-mode-new-content-for-predator-hunting-grounds/ (https://blog.playstation.com/2021/02/16/new-year-new-mode-new-content-for-predator-hunting-grounds/)
Looks like while no dedicated game mode is here there is a bunch of new things for custom private games as well as cutting down on duplicate items in the field lockers. The blog also points to the Egyptian Predator being the next Predator class.
So the long tail dreadlocks appear to be an early version of the Valkyrie dreads. They're usable on both gender of Predator if anyone is worried but due have some twitching due to physics messing about. Valkyrie mask might have some mild positioning errors on the warpaint. She also has the basic female head so like the others nothing unique facially. Unlike Viking the wrist launcher does not appear when equipped.
Decent health (seemingly on par with City Hunter), full speed bars, movement speed similar to city hunter with 9 gear points and 14 perk points.
Similarly to Samurai her backpack opens up to reveal the plasmacaster but both of them do. For some reason she has two but only reveals one gun. I definitely like the audio on the swing of the hammer. Confirming as well only one wristblade.
There appears to be a rest glitch with her resetting weapons to a previous loadout.
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A lot of effort means.....
The datamines were correct! The next update is Airstrip
I'm still holding out hope for Isabelle...
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 05, 2021, 05:39:21 PM
The datamines were correct! The next update is Airstrip
Or incorrect, since the datamine indicated there
would be a patch out in March.
In my view the datamines have been a rough flip of a coin at best. There's a lot of assumingly abandoned datamined content out there that will never be, stacked with a lot of content that were not mined and straight out surprised us, so it's hard for me to hold faith in it as a general rule.
Yeah I'm still hopeful we'll eventually get to see some of that stuff, but in terms of actual release dates I'm definitely not taking it as gospel.
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I just want Scar and Mr. Black
*cries*
My hope is April provides a giant anniversary update, with availability on Steam, Isabelle and lore tapes, 200 new level max, Cleo Predator, lone wolf mode, and new map. (I'd prefer a Hunting Reserve Planet Map but would settle for just anything new).
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 06, 2021, 04:15:53 PM
My hope is April provides a giant anniversary update, with availability on Steam, Isabelle and lore tapes, 200 new level max, Cleo Predator, lone wolf mode, and new map. (I'd prefer a Hunting Reserve Planet Map but would settle for just anything new).
Cleo Predator? Who dat?
There was mention of a Cleo datamined, and folk believe it's the one mentioned in the logs who attacked Dutch.
And this info was posted on the Playstation Blog:
Quote"Lastly, If you are looking for a sneak peek at the next Predator class drop, be sure to listen closely to your Dutch tapes... as he always has the answer."
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/02/16/new-year-new-mode-new-content-for-predator-hunting-grounds/
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 05, 2021, 08:22:26 PM
In my view the datamines have been a rough flip of a coin at best. There's a lot of assumingly abandoned datamined content out there that will never be, stacked with a lot of content that were not mined and straight out surprised us, so it's hard for me to hold faith in it as a general rule.
Agreed - also, the devs even stated (on their Stream or on the forum, can't remember which) that they have caught onto the data miners and put in intentionally mis-leading information so to keep things from being leaked like before. However, the roadmap silhouette was clearly Isabelle and the fact that was not released was a letdown.
Quote from: bendinglight on Mar 09, 2021, 01:29:20 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 05, 2021, 08:22:26 PM
In my view the datamines have been a rough flip of a coin at best. There's a lot of assumingly abandoned datamined content out there that will never be, stacked with a lot of content that were not mined and straight out surprised us, so it's hard for me to hold faith in it as a general rule.
Agreed - also, the devs even stated (on their Stream or on the forum, can't remember which) that they have caught onto the data miners and put in intentionally mis-leading information so to keep things from being leaked like before. However, the roadmap silhouette was clearly Isabelle and the fact that was not released was a letdown.
Misleading information.... I wonder how deep that rabbit hole goes. At some point it starts to become cruel I think.
Yeah, I'm holding out hope that February's Isabelle was just a circumstance of improved timing, and she arrives in the One Year Anniversary update this April.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 08, 2021, 02:04:54 PM
And this info was posted on the Playstation Blog:
Quote"Lastly, If you are looking for a sneak peek at the next Predator class drop, be sure to listen closely to your Dutch tapes... as he always has the answer."
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/02/16/new-year-new-mode-new-content-for-predator-hunting-grounds/
So no Mr Black or any movie Predators for a while.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 09, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 08, 2021, 02:04:54 PM
And this info was posted on the Playstation Blog:
Quote"Lastly, If you are looking for a sneak peek at the next Predator class drop, be sure to listen closely to your Dutch tapes... as he always has the answer."
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/02/16/new-year-new-mode-new-content-for-predator-hunting-grounds/
So no Mr Black or any movie Predators for a while.
While I would relish at seeing both Mr. Black and the Falconer in the game, I suspect these fall in the abandoned content that Illfonic mentioned months ago. Those Super Predator heads require a different head model once the bio-mask is shot off, and their heads are longer than the standard Predators. I wouldn't be shocked if fitting them into the bio-mask caused lots of problems.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 06, 2021, 04:15:53 PM
My hope is April provides a giant anniversary update, with availability on Steam, Isabelle and lore tapes, 200 new level max, Cleo Predator, lone wolf mode, and new map. (I'd prefer a Hunting Reserve Planet Map but would settle for just anything new).
100%!!! I also hope that there is some sort of ranking mode like DBD has that gives players additional incentive to stay and play.
Yeah, that would indeed be cool! 👍
If anyone is after a physical copy of Hunting Grounds, it's on sale through PlayStation from now until the end of March. (US)
https://direct.playstation.com/en-us/games/game/predator-hunting-grounds-ps4.3004688
Quote from: Kailem on Mar 05, 2021, 08:00:53 PM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Mar 05, 2021, 05:39:21 PM
The datamines were correct! The next update is Airstrip
Or incorrect, since the datamine indicated there would be a patch out in March.
That was the leaker's fault, but don't hold it against him, he saw that airstrip was linked to the next update, and he assumed it was this month
So more like "data? Mine", then. :P
Some interesting wording here:
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1373029084834435072
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 18, 2021, 01:00:52 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Speaking of things to celebrate, how about some more masks to brighten your day? <a href="https://t.co/JjIS2kqrMJ">pic.twitter.com/JjIS2kqrMJ</a></p>— IllFonic (@IllFonic) <a href="https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1372236654031872009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
How about different armor sets for the Predators instead?
It would be lovely!
First let's get Braga and those lore tapes!
(https://media.tenor.com/images/4545f84c01566cf593b8d05049a283b8/tenor.gif)
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1384227059149336576?
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:laugh:
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 19, 2021, 07:34:47 PM
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1384227059149336576?
I guess now the question is when the update will drop - prior to or after the stream?
So the stream would be Monday, the 26th of April? Perhaps then that Tuesday, the following day.
I'm thinking it's tomorrow. This was from last week:
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1382448079224311811
Or maybe they announce it this weekend and release it on Tuesday.
I heard it would be on 26th but who knows.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1385650685908242434
No update today as confirmed in the forums, update will be on monday 100%, they will probs tease us about it in the weekend
Some people told me they wouldn't want to do it on monday cus its the day of their stream, if its another update that brings a lot of bugs like some others their stream will be flooded with complains.
Monday or Tuesday. Probably won't past that. Just give the Predator specializations and a map.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 23, 2021, 11:56:20 PM
Some people told me they wouldn't want to do it on monday cus its the day of their stream, if its another update that brings a lot of bugs like some others their stream will be flooded with complains.
Monday or Tuesday. Probably won't past that. Just give the Predator specializations and a map.
They said monday is full of surprises and it's their official anniversary commemoration, would make no sense for them to not do it that day
I think they'll just announce the new stuff today, talk about it on Monday, and it'll drop on Tuesday.
I hope you're right, maybe this afternoon would be great, but for them to announce it on monday and get it the day or next day is a little tight no? If it is big. if its small im sure nobody will care.
Le sigh...
https://twitter.com/illfonic/status/1385737589320294407?s=21
Tweet doesn't exist? Was it bad news?
They had said something about "newness" on this weekend. Guess that was cancelled.
Although I'd love it, personally I wasn't expecting anything over the weekend.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 24, 2021, 07:13:09 PM
Le sigh...
https://twitter.com/illfonic/status/1385737589320294407?s=21
I can still see it:
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1385737589320294407
You can see the original tweet when you click the date on Twitter.
What time is the dev stream monday?
The dev stream starts 1:00 PM PST (which I believe is 8:00 PM GMT)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 25, 2021, 03:06:38 PM
The dev stream starts 1:00 PM PST (which I believe is 8:00 PM GMT)
glad its not 1m...as their twitter/instagram and facebook social media posts say.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Apr 25, 2021, 03:07:44 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 25, 2021, 03:06:38 PM
The dev stream starts 1:00 PM PST (which I believe is 8:00 PM GMT)
glad its not 1m...as their twitter/instagram and facebook social media posts say.
Here's a post where they didn't forget the "P" ;D
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1384233924558147601?
Here's hoping we're not also reading too much into 'fun and surprises.'
A weekend full of disappointment more like, coupled with nothing happening on Alien Day
Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 26, 2021, 07:51:58 AM
A weekend full of disappointment more like, coupled with nothing happening on Alien Day
:laugh:
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Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 26, 2021, 01:27:21 AM
Here's hoping we're not also reading too much into 'fun and surprises.'
New masks and skin tones for the Predators. Very fun. Very exciting.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 24, 2021, 12:10:32 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 23, 2021, 11:56:20 PM
Some people told me they wouldn't want to do it on monday cus its the day of their stream, if its another update that brings a lot of bugs like some others their stream will be flooded with complains.
Monday or Tuesday. Probably won't past that. Just give the Predator specializations and a map.
They said monday is full of surprises and it's their official anniversary commemoration, would make no sense for them to not do it that day
Well it is Illfonic after all.
Dev Stream is also delayed.
The topping is also cursed.
Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 26, 2021, 05:40:28 PM
Dev Stream is also delayed.
I could feel it coming.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1386735177725091842?
So as mentioned already, now the dev stream is delayed with no rescheduling in sight....
...does this mean the big update is delayed too?
And is it all related to the lawsuit, or just a general lack of competence perhaps?
For the first time in 1 year, I'm genuinely disappointed with the devs
What the hell can cause a delay in the day of the stream? We were right there!
My guessing is that they found some kind of nasty bug and their small team did their best to fix it in time but failed.
To pull it less than 24 hours after promoting this stream for a week, something seems off to me.
If update is actually delayed tomorrow too, the lawsuit will remain in the back of my mind. Orders from above. Sony? Wait until the injunction ruling? Perhaps there's some sort of nonrefundable initial cost or fee to get it listed on Steam that we're unaware of, only for the carpet to be pulled from underneath possibly in 30 days?
Then again, it could just be incompetent planning and we get an update and stream a week later. ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 26, 2021, 07:54:13 PM
Then again, it could just be incompetent planning and we get an update and stream a week later. ;D
It is Illfonic after all.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 26, 2021, 08:08:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 26, 2021, 07:54:13 PM
Then again, it could just be incompetent planning and we get an update and stream a week later. ;D
It is Illfonic after all.
Who would have ever thought that incompetence could be such a reassuring hope against a hypothetical doom.
:laugh:
Something I posted in Illfonic's Forums:
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Just something to think about:
In the Thomas Brothers complaint against Disney/20th Century Pictures, the Thomas Brothers say they are entitled to a preliminary injunction (a full stop) on any new Predator works after April 17, 2021 (the effective termination date). I believe it's very possible that new, especially chargeable Anniversary DLC of this game, could perhaps qualify.
(https://i.ibb.co/mb8T7Rz/Screenshot-20210427-085023-Adobe-Acrobat.jpg)
So if the judge rules in favor of the preliminary injunction on the day of the motion hearing (i.e. May , 27th), it's not new content that will be stopped from that day in May, but new content that will be stopped from the 17th of April.
So if the Anniversary update is applicable, and if the preliminary injunction is enforced, I wonder how difficult would it be to immediately by court order retroactively de-update the game? Illfonic may have been instructed by Disney legal, Sony legal, and/or their own legal representation to hold off and to not comment.
I can't say I know what's going on behind the scenes at Illfonic. I don't. I can't confirm any of this is happening with any kind of certainty. But after seeing so many people rip Illfonic a new a**hole this past day or so, I at least feel we should really be open to the possibility that this time, this ordeal, might not be Illfonic's fault.
Just something to chew on.
🤞 With that said, regardless of how realistic or unrealistic this wish turns out to be, here's hoping none of these legal issues are impacting the game, and the update still somehow comes out this week!
If only they could at least say something, that's another problem, they can't communicate well with the player base. They have chosen to be silent and ignore any questions instead of communicating with people and giving us any update on this.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 27, 2021, 02:48:06 PM
If only they could at least say something, that's another problem, they can't communicate well with the player base. They have chosen to be silent and ignore any questions instead of communicating with people and giving us any update on this.
Well legal can be instructing them not to comment perhaps, but you're absolutely right. Communication has always been an issue of theirs.
So even if this one particular time Illfonic has been instructed not to communicate by their legal department, their communication skills has been so bad all the time, who would fault anyone from assuming this time was just Illfonic's usual lack of communication again. It's the boy cried wolf scenario.
Just telling us if the update is still coming this week or not would be enough. They don't have to go deep on the why but after the tweet about "newness" coming, the 1 year anniversary big thing then deleting it afterwards and now canceling the dev stream while pretending nothing is happening is making them look pretty bad. If they already knew before something was going to prevent the update being released they shouldn't have to bring to much expectation into it.
Yeah, that's fair.
Its just disgusting that people are resorting to toxic behavior, slinging shit at the workers themselves. I get the anger but the entitlement that some of these people are displaying on reddit and the forums is vile.
Ridge and Voodoo stop trying to reason with the Illfonic Forums these people will soon start calling you 2 of bootlickers lol
The empty social experience there makes people incredibly fustrated and fustrating. Lots of people are trying to steer that fanship to be more organized. Unfortuntately you cant stop the mentally unwell.
There is a goddamn clown meme spamming on the Illfonic PHG foruns right now. This whole situation is just turning me off from playing this game. Might be time for another break.
I still enjoy playing it. What freshened it up for me some was do something different than the classes I usually play, i.e. Assault, Support, Dutch 84, Dutch 2025, Harrigan 1999 (Assault), Dante...
So lately I've been trying to master Recon and getting a kick out of it.
Public matches have become boring for me, its fun to play while talking on discord with others but when you go with a full team you kill most Predators in under a minute, if you go solo you have to babysit 3 other FT while having to fight the Predator 1x1 and you can still even win in that situation most of the times. As Predator you can get FTs that you can kill in 1 minute or into lobbies against premades abusing the most OP stuff the FT has with 200 ping where it lags to even use cloak. The gap between these 2 is too big.
Privates while rotating who is Predator is where most of the fun is , the Predator is always the host with best ping so he can have a chance, you don't have to worry about waiting to find a match, just make a lobby and thats it. But ever since they added specs for FT the number of players willing to play as Predator against full PC premade squads have become very low and finding the 5th guy takes a while sometimes. The challenge to play as Predator can be exciting but also frustating after a while, even though playing as Predator in this game is really fun. And the possibilty of no more new content is dismotivating me.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 27, 2021, 08:35:27 PM
Ridge and Voodoo stop trying to reason with the Illfonic Forums these people will soon start calling you 2 of bootlickers lol
I straight up said in the forum that Illfonic screwed themselves.
They are a wild bunch over there. I do not envy their staff moderators nor who ends up being their new community coordinator that they're looking for.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Apr 28, 2021, 08:49:14 AM
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Apr 27, 2021, 08:35:27 PM
Ridge and Voodoo stop trying to reason with the Illfonic Forums these people will soon start calling you 2 of bootlickers lol
I straight up said in the forum that Illfonic screwed themselves.
They are a wild bunch over there. I do not envy their staff moderators nor who ends up being their new community coordinator that they're looking for.
I know, but just by saying that maybe the lawsuit screwed them over again is enough for them to start calling you of a clown, or send JarJar porn to you
Ok, now I wanna check these forums out :D
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/ban-the-clowns/20897/65 (https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/ban-the-clowns/20897/65)
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/the-predar-hunting-grounds-meme-thread/16117/38 (https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/the-predar-hunting-grounds-meme-thread/16117/38)
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:D
Quote from: Kradan on Apr 28, 2021, 05:05:45 PM
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:D
The first is Mike Stoklasa when young.
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Spoiler
Voodoo:
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Quote from: Kradan on Apr 28, 2021, 05:05:45 PM
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:D
I would unironically love to get that Lex update if that means alien trophy skull and Lex lore tapes. Be awesome to see how the events of AVP be handled in the universe. Dunno about Lex as a class character since she is in good graces with the Isolated Clan. Would another Predator see her mark and not touch her?
Now on the memes.....
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Sums up how useful the axe is......
Both the axe and hammer have terrible tracking. Or I guess just no tracking. And their log animation times mean you almost always miss.
Theirs are worse. But every melee weapon can sometimes lose its tracking or something, its like it stops working.
Neither of you have considered perhaps that pig just has ninja reflexes?
Some pigs are insane. They can even make an arrow pass right through them and not take any damage.
PIGS > A.I. > FIRETEAM > PREDATOR
The Pigs and Predators are in cahoots I tell ya!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejRQbdK8-KY
UPDATE IS OUT.
Great news. Good that they can release more content. I'm a bit disappointed that we only get Mr Black mask.
https://blog.playstation.com/2021/04/29/predator-hunting-grounds-comes-to-steam-with-april-update/
1 Year Anniversary Update Thread:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=64930.0
Night maps, perhaps!
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/doc-lores-got-updated/21293
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1390009677589712898?
So did it happen and how was it?
Quote from: Wweyland on May 06, 2021, 08:33:00 AM
So did it happen and how was it?
I'd like to know too. Is there a recording of these somewhere? Curious to hear their thoughts on the game in its current state.
On a similar note, any plans to do another gameplay session recording, Hicks et al, now that the one-year update is out? RidgeTop can even join from Steam now!
1 year ago today, Dutch returned...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPVxor1rabk/?utm_medium=copy_link
And half a year after she was teased, we're still waiting for Isabelle to do the same....
Quote from: Kailem on May 27, 2021, 01:51:07 PM
And half a year after she was teased, we're still waiting for Isabelle to do the same....
It would be wonderful wouldn't it, to finally find out what became of Royce & Isabelle... especially in light of how masterfully they handled Sean Keyes and Dutch.
I had all but given up on OWLF tapes but with the new update they seem to be popping up pretty regularly now. I've found one three matches in a row!
Cool!
Any Fireteam build recommendations? I just discovered the Yautia's Bane perk, seems good.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 26, 2021, 03:05:58 PM
1 year ago today, Dutch returned...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPVxor1rabk/?utm_medium=copy_link
And it's still f**king awesome! Finally, after all these years of keeping Dutch under their hat, he makes a return!
Quote from: Wweyland on May 29, 2021, 06:55:11 PM
Any Fireteam build recommendations? I just discovered the Yautia's Bane perk, seems good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjh5NDrORAM&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taioBToahIg&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgz2sWcYOKM&
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2021, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on May 26, 2021, 03:05:58 PM
1 year ago today, Dutch returned...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CPVxor1rabk/?utm_medium=copy_link
And it's still f**king awesome! Finally, after all these years of keeping Dutch under their hat, he makes a return!
I have been playing as Dutch 2025 after a long hiatus due to playing other builds. I forgot how much I love the class!
https://www.illfonic.com/illfonic/meet-the-dev-jullian-hyatt/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L-9zXBq794&ab_channel=goukigod
(https://i.ibb.co/jRzntVC/received-1245355385881733.jpg)
I wonder what that "nice big red arrow" will be pointing to.... 🤔
Hopefully Mr Black. And more maps. And Wolf. And a city map. And Mr Black. And Wolf.
And more maps.
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 16, 2021, 03:47:35 PM
Hopefully Mr Black. And more maps. And Wolf. And a city map. And Mr Black. And Wolf.
And more maps.
lol
I'm actually, for the first time, not craving any new maps. I'd rather have a new guantlet or solo mode. Meaning, unless they throw a glorious new City Map at us, I am finally very content with the six maps we have -
and it's amazing to hear myself say that! :laugh: And I'm extremely pleased with the Headquarters addition especially.
Now in regards to Super Predators, I rather have the Falconer over Mr. Black, just because the falcon drone could add such an interesting new layer to gameplay.
I feel like they probably tried to do Mr Black, as evidenced by the data mining, then realised that since his head was a different size and shape to the rest of the Predators they weren't going to be able to make his mask fit everyone, like they've done with all the rest. So they scraped him and just gave us a mask that fits normal Preds instead. Sucks if that's the case, but I feel like it could be.
But yeah, it does finally seem like we're in a decent place map wise. It's certainly good for the people who picked it up on Steam recently. They're getting an amount of maps the rest of us had to wait a year for!
The wait makes it that much sweeter, or at least, so I am told. ;D
There is also the fact that Super Predators in general are much larger, stronger, and more tougher than the average Predator that there must be some kind of balanced system to fit such a class in there. It would also make some gameplay aspects a bit more complicated such as how regular Predators gotta crouch to get in most doors in maps so having a Super Predator would perhaps complicate that even more.
I still advocate a new mode of 5v1 where its 4 Fireteam and 1 allied Predator versus one Super Predator where the goal of one side is to escape/kill the Super and the other is to hunt down all the five. At that point since Fireteam has an allied Predator, the Super can be buffed to the max with all the maxed out stats, tools from the film and perhaps even more.
Speaking of maps, I would like to have that snow map that the devs teased at us when Viking dropped sometime down the road. That and the two concept art maps of some abandoned shipyard and favela.
I hope for new game modes, a night mode would be cool, but a bigger player cap would be better.
I want Broken Tusk with his naginata and hand cannon. And obviously refined AI bots for fireteam/predator.
I think for the the number of maps is okay, headquarters is awesome but its still more of the same repetitive thing. Lots of people want a coop mode with multiple predators, meaning like 2 predators vs 6-8 fireteam or something. That would be awesome, I think that would benefit the game a lot more right now. And push the cooperative teamwork aspect to the predators as well.
I hope we get Celtic and Mr. Black. Falconer Predator would be great too.
Quote from: Galactus123 on Jul 22, 2021, 02:31:24 PM
I hope we get Celtic and Mr. Black. Falconer Predator would be great too.
Celtic would fit nicely in in the time period.
From the roadmap picture its one more predator in August and another in October. Considering they already released Mr. Black I think he will be one of those. Then maybe the Cleo female predator.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jul 23, 2021, 03:50:46 AM
From the roadmap picture its one more predator in August and another in October. Considering they already released Mr. Black I think he will be one of those. Then maybe the Cleo female predator.
Hmm. I feel Cleo is a lock, but to me, I don't believe it will be Mr. Black. The way I see it, that ship has sailed. You don't release the coolest part of a known Predator, the bio-mask, for free, if you're going to ask players to pay for the class/rest of the body months later. I just don't see the business sense in that.
If I had to guess, Mr. Black and Falconer was once the plan, but perhaps Illfonic became stuck on the faces?
It might make sense if the class is on a whole different leverl. ie, wider wristblade range, class locked gears like a drone, class locked autofiring plasma caster, unique model . That would make their masks more of a 'they have it covered' tease. but who knows.
The Supers in all honestly should've been body type 3 or have been one of the earlier classes so we're not left with several dozen masks that wont fit him. I mean Predators does have a representative in Isabelle but it is kind of sad that in a Predator game only three of the title characters are actually from the films, two of which the same film, and one of them is a Pre-order bonus no one just now coming to the game can gain.
I agree, the Berserker Class should have been the Super Predators. If the name fits.... :)
It is my great regret I never got to play this game. :(
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 25, 2021, 12:09:00 AM
It is my great regret I never got to play this game. :(
I mean..... it still exists. You can play it whenever you want.
Quote from: Dachande on Jul 25, 2021, 12:36:28 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 25, 2021, 12:09:00 AM
It is my great regret I never got to play this game. :(
I mean..... it still exists. You can play it whenever you want.
I don't have any consoles or a PC.
I never did AVP 1 & 2, Concrete Jungle, or Extinction.
Quote from: Huggs on Jul 25, 2021, 12:58:59 AM
I never did AVP 1 & 2, Concrete Jungle, or Extinction.
Of those I only owned Concrete Jungle and AVP Extinction.
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 25, 2021, 12:57:06 AM
Quote from: Dachande on Jul 25, 2021, 12:36:28 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 25, 2021, 12:09:00 AM
It is my great regret I never got to play this game. :(
I mean..... it still exists. You can play it whenever you want.
I don't have any consoles or a PC.
Aw, man, as a Predator fan, you are definitely missing out. The regret of letting this one pass you by years later would be huge I imagine.
I know you were chasing a 1:1 bio-mask recently. Do you have enough expendable income to purchase a refurbished ps4? Seen them sell for as little as $99.00. The game is always on sale too.
Fresh content tomorrow...
Cleo tomorrow
Can't wait for the thirst posting on the Discord
Also hoping for either Night Mode or Gauntlet, level cap increase, more cosmetic goodies, enough to hold us over until October and satisfy the new Steam players. Hopefully with the game being part of the PS+ September titles, it'll get a nice player boost.
I will kill so many Cleo Preds tomorrow as Dutch 2025 they better make it canon.
If Cleo shows up I want them to flesh out her story in a way tangible to the player since we we don't see the net gun incident nor do we see her after. We only hear about it second hand. Like if she's in a match I want Dutch to comment on it. Maybe even have a different intro and outro provided Dutch and Cleo are present. Like if you secure her body Dutch takes her as a trophy or something.
Just something to indicate she mattered. Cause otherwise she's just going to be any other Predator. We only care if we found and heard the audio logs and it still doesn't hit right because we aren't Dutch. It's kind of like AFTE with Monica, like we know she's a threat but who cares since we never saw her prior. It's just another thing to shoot.
Filelr update tbh, they are teasing new modes tho
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1433090046874243077
That's right folks; Overcooked: All You Can Eat is coming to PS+!!!
Oh yeah also Hunting Grounds.
New "Predator: Hunting Grounds" Trophies Released including a Very Familiar Skull!
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/09/15/new-predator-hunting-grounds-trophies-released-including-a-very-familiar-skull/
Nice! The other two trophies are a cool surprise since I don't think those had been datamined.
Does anyone know if it's possible to unlock the three masks that were previously "paid early access" (Mr Black's, City Hunter's rebreather and this Dutch one) via the field lockers? I've been pumping all my vert into those in order to get all the new trophies they've been adding, but so far I haven't had any luck getting the first two that had come out.
Is it another situation where they just straight-up can't be found in the loot crates?
Did people forget the free July 19th Patch Update? I guess they did considering that the majority of people on PC can't get any new trophies without spending hours just opening crates plus the fact that the Alien skull trophy was released then as well.
Great marketing!
Quote from: acrediblesource on Sep 15, 2021, 09:10:47 PM
Did people forget the free July 19th Patch Update? I guess they did considering that the majority of people on PC can't get any new trophies without spending hours just opening crates plus the fact that the Alien skull trophy was released then as well.
Great marketing!
Umm. You always had to open crates to get trophies.
And that was a different skull.
(https://i.ibb.co/DYxS5r4/Screenshot-20210915-173403-Gallery.jpg)
Quote from: Kailem on Sep 15, 2021, 08:27:50 PM
Nice! The other two trophies are a cool surprise since I don't think those had been datamined.
Does anyone know if it's possible to unlock the three masks that were previously "paid early access" (Mr Black's, City Hunter's rebreather and this Dutch one) via the field lockers? I've been pumping all my vert into those in order to get all the new trophies they've been adding, but so far I haven't had any luck getting the first two that had come out.
Is it another situation where they just straight-up can't be found in the loot crates?
Hmm. Since I bought the access, I don't know. Perhaps the answer lies in the nightmare known as the Illfonic Predator: Hunting Grounds official forum.
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/omg-i-found-unidentified-alien-skull-trophy-patch-2-23/22902/26
yeah well trophy was there since whenever you want to believe it was there.
That is, again, not the same trophy.
Yep, not the same trophy.
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ahah, bested. Thank you for pointing that out.
Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 16, 2021, 04:18:43 AM
Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?
It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
I just watched Predator 2 last night and paused it to look at the awesome skull collection!
Quote from: bigchap on Sep 16, 2021, 03:09:58 PM
I just watched Predator 2 last night and paused it to look at the awesome skull collection!
Isn't it awesome?!
And to think my wife won't allow a full size replica of it built in our bedroom! >:(
Still playing this a couple hours a day!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 12:43:56 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 16, 2021, 04:18:43 AM
Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?
It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
That would be amazing!
Thank you so much.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 17, 2021, 04:22:19 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 12:43:56 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 16, 2021, 04:18:43 AM
Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?
It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
That would be amazing!
Thank you so much.
You got it! It might be tonight!
Quote from: Shaeffer11 on Sep 16, 2021, 11:47:53 PM
Still playing this a couple hours a day!
Yeah, 18 months in and still as fun as heck, especially with the influx of new blood!
Man they have to introduce some sort of PvP element to keep Aliens FTE alive. It hasn't even been a month and my buds already stopped playing
Yeah FTE isn't going to have a long life as an online game. Even with new levels it just isn't really sustainable without a pvp of some sort. It would have probably had a longer life if they hadn't shot themselves in the foot with the way matchmaking works thougg.
And really if that's not in the cards then that's okay I guess. I know I've certainly got my money's worth already and I'm still enjoying it.
I've inherited a gaming laptop from my father in law so I will be looking to finally get Predator Hunting Grounds. I feel pretty late to the party and I suck even more at PC games than I do on consoles. But still looking forward to trying it out.
At this point the people I know that are still into AFE are the ones that want to max out all their classes or beat the game on insane. After that there won't be much to do until the next dlc comes out.
Predator: Hunting Grounds hasnt doing that well lately, last update was considered disappointing by the community and some people just came back to play for the day due to it then left cus nothing really interesting was added to the game but the ps free thing seems to have saved the game for a while. Numbers of people streaming it on twitch increased a lot, you get matches faster, full of new players that might stick for a while.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Sep 17, 2021, 02:07:28 PM
Yeah FTE isn't going to have a long life as an online game. Even with new levels it just isn't really sustainable without a pvp of some sort. It would have probably had a longer life if they hadn't shot themselves in the foot with the way matchmaking works though.
And really if that's not in the cards then that's okay I guess. I know I've certainly got my money's worth already and I'm still enjoying it.
I can't regularly find random players to match up with again, but yeah I had a blast playing it too. So I don't regret the purchase at all, even if nothing truly substantial is added to Aliens FTE in the future. (I might end up regretting ordering the Deluxe version though! :laugh:)
QuoteI've inherited a gaming laptop from my father in law so I will be looking to finally get Predator Hunting Grounds. I feel pretty late to the party and I suck even more at PC games than I do on consoles. But still looking forward to trying it out.
Nice! That's awesome to hear!
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 17, 2021, 04:02:31 PM
Predator: Hunting Grounds hasnt doing that well lately, last update was considered disappointing by the community and some people just came back to play for the day due to it then left cus nothing really interesting was added to the game but the ps free thing seems to have saved the game for a while. Numbers of people streaming it on twitch increased a lot, you get matches faster, full of new players that might stick for a while.
In regards to the last update being disappointing to the community, I wouldn't view the regulars on Illfonic forums that seem to spam threads with inside clown gags and jungle hunter jokes rather than have decent conversations as the community. It drove a lot of good people out of those forums, including me. They're the loud, often annoying minority. :D
We got an awesome DLC Cleo Predator to play as, awesome lore tapes recorded by actress Alice Braga herself, and bot support that will help longevity of the game when the game is no longer supported one day. (1v1 Hunt Private Matches? Oh yeah!) So a disappointing update? Not to me and my buds!
In regards to saving the game. How many new maps and DLC have we received this year so far? So if they were not still running at a profit and rather a loss, Illfonic would stop with new updates immediately.
And the playerbase on Playstation has always been there before PS-Plus this month. Roughly 20 second wait-times for playing as the Fireteam, and Predator wait-times vary 4-5min.
However, I think there is a different perspective unfortunately for PC players as yourself than many of us on Playstation. We have crossplay turned off, because First Person Shooting on PC has an advantage. (I have it turned off myself most of the time). So the bulk of the playerbase stays away from you guys :laugh: so you might be seeing this game in a lesser state than us Playstation players, the lionshare of the Predator: Hunting Grounds player base.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
In regards to the last update being disappointing to the community, I wouldn't view the regulars on Illfonic forums that seem to spam threads with inside clown gags and jungle hunter jokes rather than have decent conversations as the community. It drove a lot of good people out of those forums, including me. They're the loud, often annoying minority. :D
The clown world meme died on those forums months ago, its not just about that forum's members, on the big facebook group, the discords about the game, among streamer/content creators, the "teams", and most people there are on ps, it was considered a let down from what I saw.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
We got an awesome DLC Cleo Predator to play as, awesome lore tapes recorded by actress Alice Braga herself, and bot support that will help longevity of the game when the game is no longer supported one day. (1v1 Hunt Private Matches? Oh yeah!) So a disappointing update? Not to me and my buds!
Tapes were fine. Cleo is another cosplay meme slow Predator with bad stats like Samurai and Viking. Not a big fan of the design, and if you evaluate her gameplay wise: sure it workes great against randoms, anything does, but in competitive matches she is just...
For a Stalker long range build she is a worse Elder. Worse stamina and less perk points but then again with the Smart Disk using a mouse with high DPI any class can put a fight cus the weapons is too strong. While for melee she is a better Berserker, more perk points, better specs and can run same gear. I would say she is probably better than Viking too due to the tactician spec, with trapper perk those trapped or netgun are screwed if you use Sickle with fearless on them. That would do 38% extra melee damage, still melee doenst work well vs PC FT.
So you pay for a class that is just better than the worse ones but not as good as the default Hunter class. City Hunter and Valkyrie were good at launch but they were nerfed, they made their stats good to get people to buy them, then took it away. While Dante and Dutch'87 are still the same overpowered pay to win ft dlc as they always been. Fireteam: Hunting Grounds after all.
Bots are funny, braindead aimbots that give players extra lifes in case they die, help more than the average player.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
In regards to saving the game. How many new maps and DLC have we received this year so far? So if they were not still running at a profit and rather a loss, Illfonic would stop with new updates immediately.
Maps that were added were good, Clash mode is a meme, not what the community wanted, City Hunter and Dutch'25 and '87 were the only really good DLC imo. Isabelle is fine but she is like a worse version of the Recon class stats wise.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
And the playerbase on Playstation has always been there before PS-Plus this month. Roughly 20 second wait-times for playing as the Fireteam, and Predator wait-times vary 4-5min.
Wait times on PC were usually around that as well, since most PS players have crossplay on, as fireteam it was always fast and you get in a lobby with only ps players most time, as predator it could go from 4-10 minutes depending on the time of your region, and again most time you get into lobbies with only ps players. I know and play with many PS players and it doesnt matter if the platform, the people that have been playing since launch weren't impressed. Now for Pred its taking from 1 to 3 mins.
Funny thing about the wait times, on the day on Cleo release they had to turn cross play off for some hours cus many people that bough Cleo on Epic couldnt use her, so while they releasing a patch to fix that crossplay was disabled for everyone. The wait times for Predator got better, most PC players go for fireteam due to fps advantage.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 04:55:40 PM
However, I think there is a different perspective unfortunately for PC players as yourself than many of us on Playstation. We have crossplay turned off, because First Person Shooting on PC has an advantage. (I have it turned off myself most of the time). So the bulk of the playerbase stays away from you guys :laugh: so you might be seeing this game in a lesser state than us Playstation players, the lionshare of the Predator: Hunting Grounds player base
The average PC player on PHG doesnt perform that much better in my experience than the average PS player, especially as Predator. Most of them try melee and get slaughtered. Its only when you get like into a match with players of the top 0,1% of the PC community that... yeah most ps predator players are gonna spend the whole match running and being hunted down by the single fireteam player if they dont die 1v1 in the first minute. Or you are gonna have a Predator shooting arrows and plasma so fast the fireteam won't react in time. So most of the time crossplay wont affect ps players at all.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 17, 2021, 04:22:19 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 12:43:56 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 16, 2021, 04:18:43 AM
Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?
It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
That would be amazing!
Thank you so much.
You got it! It might be tonight!
Sweet! Can't thank you enough dude.
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 17, 2021, 06:49:55 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 17, 2021, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 17, 2021, 04:22:19 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 16, 2021, 12:43:56 PM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 16, 2021, 04:18:43 AM
Does anyone have screenshots from inside the Stargazer base?
It might not be today, but over the course of the next few days I can take some screenshots and post them here for you.
That would be amazing!
Thank you so much.
You got it! It might be tonight!
Sweet! Can't thank you enough dude.
The outside levels are much more visually impressive than what you find inside, but here you go brother!
(https://i.ibb.co/NnjYPFg/PS-App-20210918-044337.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/CssqY0k/PS-App-20210918-044341.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/YcQZXG7/PS-App-20210918-044318.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/wNWC0VB/PS-App-20210918-044334.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q8QdzXJ/PS-App-20210918-044313.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QY1vkPq/PS-App-20210918-044306.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/z7cWfSz/PS-App-20210918-044300.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6rB3HMq/PS-App-20210918-044255.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1s3xZvs/PS-App-20210918-044330.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/59JRGdq/PS-App-20210918-044324.jpg)
Perfect!
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much.
No Predator experimentation going on anywhere, huh?
I dig these glowing green screens. Nice nod to Predator blood
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 18, 2021, 08:14:56 AM
No Predator experimentation going on anywhere, huh?
There is a crude Predator autopsy to be found but it's on an entirely different map and it's mission based (only appears if you get that particular mission).
Not my screenshot:
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6825aaf82736c973322d193b296591cdd32a5096.jpeg)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 18, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 18, 2021, 08:14:56 AM
No Predator experimentation going on anywhere, huh?
There is a crude Predator autopsy to be found but it's on an entirely different map and it's mission based (only appears if you get that particular mission).
Not my screenshot:
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6825aaf82736c973322d193b296591cdd32a5096.jpeg)
That mission appears in Headquarters as well, just FYI. The autopsy room is in the smaller camp to the east of the main installation though.
Quote from: The Necronoir on Sep 18, 2021, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 18, 2021, 11:58:21 AM
Quote from: Sabres21768 on Sep 18, 2021, 08:14:56 AM
No Predator experimentation going on anywhere, huh?
There is a crude Predator autopsy to be found but it's on an entirely different map and it's mission based (only appears if you get that particular mission).
Not my screenshot:
(https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6825aaf82736c973322d193b296591cdd32a5096.jpeg)
That mission appears in Headquarters as well, just FYI. The autopsy room is in the smaller camp to the east of the main installation though.
Ah, good to know, thanks! That mission has yet to come up for me in this HQ map via the ol' randomization, and I'm not the one hosting my private matches (when they occur).
Baby mandible.rex thing? Kinda looks uncomfortable to have on ones waist hahaa.
Great to ref that icon trophy wall though.
Nice interior screenshots there, Voodoo.
So I just hopped on some Clash and unlike before the PS+ offer, games are found quite quickly. PlayStation Plus has 46.3 million subscribers, so if even a tiny fraction of that claimed the game this month, we're looking at a massive influx of new players. I'm glad the game seems to have some new life now, just hope Illfonic can actually bring the thunder this time with the October DLC and capitalize on all these new players.
Quote from: SizzyBubbles on Sep 20, 2021, 06:40:04 PM
Baby mandible.rex thing? Kinda looks uncomfortable to have on ones waist hahaa.
Great to ref that icon trophy wall though.
Yeah they're nice trophies to put on the P2 Preds.
Yeah I put the previous skull they added on my City Hunter since it seemed appropriate.
And yeah, I'd say there's never been a better time to play either fireteam or Predator on Playstation. I've played dozens of matches of both these past few weeks and almost every time I've gone up against players who seem to be brand new, so it's a really low-pressure atmosphere. Coupled with the fact that the Predator wait times are the shortest I think they've ever been and it's a great time to get back in to it.
This right here, I love this lore wise:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg)
As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic! ;D
Design wise.....it could have been better. I seen much more interesting stone knives than that, like the one from Far Cry Primal looked much better than this one:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fa1%2F23%2Fe7%2Fa123e7016a5b23d73acf0f9d51128775.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
(This one is a duplicate made one ripped straight from the game itself, I'll post the link at the bottom if you want to see the process, its really interesting)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWuFAWXaAwQ
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 28, 2021, 01:39:37 AM
This right here, I love this lore wise:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg
As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic! ;D
I must have missed this. Where did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 28, 2021, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 28, 2021, 01:39:37 AM
This right here, I love this lore wise:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg
As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic! ;D
I must have missed this. Where did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?
The whole concept of Predator trophies in the game itself was inspired by Predator 2, which Illfonic admitted to this, right? This same concept brought into the game serves both gameplay and lore branching. Gameplay is to give more unique customization for their Predator builds and for players to grind for spending VTs in lockers. Lore wise, if you read the various bios of Predator trophies, it is described from a first person perspective most of the time like the bio of the Prehistoric Mace:
QuoteRadiocarbon dating places this Mesopotamian artifact to roughly 1,900 BCE
or the Prehistoric Knife:
QuoteLittle is known about this pre-Columbian hunting knife, as the style is unlike anything found in North or Central America. It was likely the custom weapon of a tribeless warrior.
Lots of these bios are written in a manner that the trophies are being cataloged or currently under study. Who else would catalog such findings than the very organization that is dedicated to hunting down Predators? OWLF, of course! And they have been doing this for decades so its not inaccurate for them to take down Predators who some have happen to have these kinds of trophies on them. Also, look at how players put these trophies on their Predators and if they are taken down by Fireteam, the whole body itself is recovered.....including these trophies. The matches play out like how it would in the lore perspective, whenever either side wins or loses. Missions, Fireteam, Stargazer, and an individual Predator is present, playing out these events in 2025 with only the outcome being dependent on the players, but it all matches out with what is going on story wise.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 28, 2021, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 28, 2021, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 28, 2021, 01:39:37 AM
This right here, I love this lore wise:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/knife-1.jpg
As I brought up in a topic before of Predator biological immortality, Predators are very long lived and the most far back on record of ancient man's history was about 15,000-10,000 years ago, meaning that Predators have not only been hunting on Earth for that long but also living that long as well. Its just awesome to know my theory was on point on this! Thanks Illfonic! ;D
I must have missed this. Where did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?
The whole concept of Predator trophies in the game itself was inspired by Predator 2, which Illfonic admitted to this, right? This same concept brought into the game serves both gameplay and lore branching. Gameplay is to give more unique customization for their Predator builds and for players to grind for spending VTs in lockers. Lore wise, if you read the various bios of Predator trophies, it is described from a first person perspective most of the time like the bio of the Prehistoric Mace:
QuoteRadiocarbon dating places this Mesopotamian artifact to roughly 1,900 BCE
or the Prehistoric Knife:
QuoteLittle is known about this pre-Columbian hunting knife, as the style is unlike anything found in North or Central America. It was likely the custom weapon of a tribeless warrior.
Lots of these bios are written in a manner that the trophies are being cataloged or currently under study. Who else would catalog such findings than the very organization that is dedicated to hunting down Predators? OWLF, of course! And they have been doing this for decades so its not inaccurate for them to take down Predators who some have happen to have these kinds of trophies on them. Also, look at how players put these trophies on their Predators and if they are taken down by Fireteam, the whole body itself is recovered.....including these trophies. The matches play out like how it would in the lore perspective, whenever either side wins or loses. Missions, Fireteam, Stargazer, and an individual Predator is present, playing out these events in 2025 with only the outcome being dependent on the players, but it all matches out with what is going on story wise.
But did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?
See the game has playable dead Predators. Playable living Predators. Playable Predators from different Ages long ago. And you can play as the very first Alpha Predator.
...and the trophies we win in loot crates aren't often tied to a specific Predator.
...and Predators are known to gift trophies:
(https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif)
So basically, what I mean with all of this is, unless the game specifically states Predators live for 10,000 years, 15,000 years or more, it doesn't. :)
A couple hundred years I could see. Thousands is up there in mythological territory. Just my opinion.
Predator lifespan is an interesting thing. Via Xenopedia:
"While the maximum lifespan of a Predator is unknown, the species has been known to live for hundreds to thousands of years. It has been implied that one or two centuries is considered young for the species, with relative adolescents of the species not even going on their first Xenomorph hunt before they attain an age of few centuries. Most, however, do not reach senescence due to the rigors of their dangerous and semi-nomadic lifestyle."
Given Cleopatra has Egyptian style armor (which makes my AvP fanboy side think of the ancient alien Predator pyramid stuff making its way to Egypt) we can assume she's at least a couple thousand years old. Hell in the AvP: Eternal comic Gideon Lee lived 700+ years by Predator vampirism.
I do think upwards of more than 5,000 years would be a bit much to take seriously though, and it's also possible that armor and trophies are passed down from Predator ancestors or gifted.
We can customize things to our hearts content but nothing indicates the Illfonic Predators had a prehistoric knife, just that a Predator does acquire one at some point which is why we can equip it whether they got it during the stone age or pulled it off some guy in 1978. And as far as role playing is concerned they definitively could have gotten it during the stone age. Jungle Hunter while long dead could have some doppelganger who happens to have had one, or maybe he did have one. But things are up in the air of who that Predator is and what they had on them so that players can do what they want and so it's left open ended.
It doesn't mean Predators are super long lived, but it doesn't mean they aren't either. And because we can play as characters who could be or are dead this muddies things further. Not helped that trophies could be passed down to new generations or taken it in such a way it that didn't involve the original owner. Because none of this is specified like certain weapons or dreadlock styles, Jungle Hunter might be several thousand years old to have owned one, but it doesn't mean he is either.
We know they are long lived. A Predator can live up to several hundred years old especially if 300 is still considered young. But we don't know any upper limits of this for sure. A Predator did grab a prehistoric knife, we just don't know who or if any of the roster owns this and under what circumstances.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 28, 2021, 08:51:46 PM
But did Illfonic acknowledge / indicate Predators have such an protracted lifespan?
Wait, I just said why, what do you mean? The trophies themselves indicate such lifespan both lore wise and with the gameplay function of expanded Predator customization. The trophies builds further on both Predator customization and the lore of Predators collecting trophy items from hunts of long ago, as Predator 2 established with Greyback with the Flintlock and the Korean War Patch.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 28, 2021, 08:51:46 PM
See the game has playable dead Predators. Playable living Predators. Playable Predators from different Ages long ago. And you can play as the very first Alpha Predator.
Yeah, we can separate the two as its already stated that the playable dead Predators are canonically dead. The game follows the events after The Predator and is in accordance to the Predator timeline. Its been long established that Jungle and City Hunter are just there for gameplay purposes. Some Predators like Valkyrie have an unknown status of being alive or dead, so that is also up in the air. All we know is that in the game, each mission event is canon and in the event, there is always a Predator, Fireteam, and Stargazer present for the event. Its simply up in the air of who was present and won the battle canon wise, but gameplay wise, it all depends on the players.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 28, 2021, 08:51:46 PM
...and the trophies we win in loot crates aren't often tied to a specific Predator.
While it's not tied to any specific Predator, it doesn't invalidate the existence of these trophies being present on Predators that OWLF obtained from their bodies. The bio of the Prehistoric Mace already indicated that its been sampled for carbon dating, so who else would carbon date it than OWLF, which is the very organization that hunts Predators and obtains many of their bodies and technology?
If you have Predators like Cleopatra and Viking that correlates the Khopesh and Viking axe trophies, there is no doubt in my mind that other trophies were also taken by other Predators that are not yet known or simply just not in a legendary status like Cleopatra and Viking. The Khopesh and Viking trophies were never said to belong to Cleopatra and Viking exclusively, but it doesn't invalidate the idea that it can be theirs or even from another Predator. Only that they existed and were worn by the hunters.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 28, 2021, 08:51:46 PM
...and Predators are known to gift trophies:
https://i.imgur.com/boyRiZp.gif
If anything, that would support my theory. An Elder Predator finding a sole Fireteam member worthy to spare and give an ancient Prehistoric Knife to the person as a gift would indicate whomever this Predator is, to be very ancient, seeing how that time period would be around 10,000-13,000 or maybe even 15,000 years old. Much like how Greyback is at least over +400 years old, if he was there to obtain the filntlock from that time period, the particular Predator who has the Prehistoric Knife must be ten thousand or more in order to exist to take it and live long enough to at least gift it to the worthy foe that slain its clan member.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 28, 2021, 08:51:46 PM
So basically, what I mean with all of this is, unless the game specifically states Predators live for 10,000 years, 15,000 years or more, it doesn't. :)
Not exactly, otherwise you would invalidate the Flintlock pistol that Greyback had, which is also present in the game as well. Remember, Illfonic is building on the current Predator lore and its been said that Predators have been hunting on Earth for a very long time. We just don't know where the line started.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 28, 2021, 11:48:04 PM
I do think upwards of more than 5,000 years would be a bit much to take seriously though, and it's also possible that armor and trophies are passed down from Predator ancestors or gifted.
I can buy the idea of armor, as its something we do as well, but passing down trophies doesn't make sense. Especially from a race that is hardcore honor bound and about the thrill of the hunt, I doubt they would pass down trophies they gotten through hard won brutal battles. Predator 2 supports the theory of long lived hunters that possessed trophies from hunts long ago and are willing to gift them to worthy foes who won the battle against a member of their clan fair and square. Haven't seen nothing yet of passing trophies down to clan members.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 29, 2021, 12:40:29 AM
I can buy the idea of armor, as its something we do as well, but passing down trophies doesn't make sense. Especially from a race that is hardcore honor bound and about the thrill of the hunt, I doubt they would pass down trophies they gotten through hard won brutal battles. Predator 2 supports the theory of long lived hunters that possessed trophies from hunts long ago and are willing to gift them to worthy foes who won the battle against a member of their clan fair and square. Haven't seen nothing yet of passing trophies down to clan members.
Isn't too much of a stretch to think they'd also do this with other Predators IMO, either as an award or just a sign of respect. Perhaps more so with the trinket trophies rather than the skulls, but if a skull was significant they might keep it to pay homage to an ancestor, without claiming it as their own kill.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 29, 2021, 12:40:29 AM
Yeah, we can separate the two as its already stated that the playable dead Predators are canonically dead. The game follows the events after The Predator and is in accordance to the Predator timeline. Its been long established that Jungle and City Hunter are just there for gameplay purposes.
Could always head-canon it by just saying that sometimes we get Preds that look like and wear the same armor of previous ones, ala 'Classic/Crucified' in Predators.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 29, 2021, 12:40:29 AM
All we know is that in the game, each mission event is canon and in the event, there is always a Predator, Fireteam, and Stargazer present for the event.
Do we though? Haven't seen any official confirmation that the game is canon. That would be a lot of dead drug lord's brothers. And there isn't always a Predator that shows up.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 29, 2021, 12:50:02 AM
Isn't too much of a stretch to think they'd also do this with other Predators IMO, either as an award or just a sign of respect. Perhaps more so with the trinket trophies rather than the skulls, but if a skull was significant they might keep it to pay homage to an ancestor, without claiming it as their own kill.
Maybe true, it would be an interesting area to explore in future media. However, I'm just going with the establish lore to support my theory on the topic at hand.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 29, 2021, 12:50:02 AM
Could always head-canon it by just saying that sometimes we get Preds that look like and wear the same armor of previous ones, ala 'Classic/Crucified' in Predators.
True, and I can see this also apply to other preds as well, but in this case that Voodoo is saying here is that the game also has canon breaking elements like JH being present in 2025 when he died in 1987, but I did say that is just gameplay reasons.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Sep 29, 2021, 12:50:02 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 29, 2021, 12:40:29 AM
All we know is that in the game, each mission event is canon and in the event, there is always a Predator, Fireteam, and Stargazer present for the event.
Do we though? Haven't seen any official confirmation that the game is canon. That would be a lot of dead drug lord's brothers. And there isn't always a Predator that shows up.
I mean the lore tapes stated how Stargazer is running around in Central America, stirring up wars and Fireteam Voodoo being a branch created by OWLF so if the events of the missions didn't happen then what are they for if not some kind of storyline to give to players? I mean you can say the same for Aliens Fireteam, like how many times has the Doctor gotta be saved or have we stepped into the Engineer ship but we all know its just replay able storyline and players can repeat the mission in anyway they like. Same thing applies here, each mission has happened before but simply that the outcome depends on the players.
We can't pick and choose what's entered in Predator: Hunting Grounds for gameplay reasons and what isn't, to transform our desire into canon. The Jungle Hunter is, but the Viking Predator is not? The City Hunter is, but the Alpha Predator is not? Why, because two were featured in Predator movies (that we saw killed) and the other two weren't in a movie at all?
One must always check themselves in regards to personal desire versus reality. We play as Predators, from different ages. We get to unlock and decorate ourself with trophies from the ages we've seen belonging to Predators in films, and others we've never seen before. Dutch 2025 can fight along Dutch 1987. Just because Cleopatra appears to have cool Egyptian looking armor, doesn't mean she was even ever in Egypt. Her tribes' ancestors may have and passed these influences to their kin. We just don't know.
The day something like this is confirmed, I'll embrace it, but the below earned in a video game's loot crate is not an official confirmation that Predators in this franchise live for 10 to 15 thousand years or more.
(https://i.ibb.co/jbP2yx6/Screenshot-20210928-221629-Chrome.jpg)
What you can do in this game though with its amazing customization tools is create a Predator how you would think it looked, hunting in that prehistoric time period. Which is fun.
Now, the lore tapes we can pull something more substantial from, but I think we should head-check ourselves with the rest. :)
QuoteWe can't pick and choose what's entered in Predator: Hunting Grounds for gameplay reasons and what isn't, to transform our desire into canon.
Are you new here? :laugh:
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in the interest of clarity that's tongue firmly in cheek regarding this site's colourful history of canon debates
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 02:49:25 AM
We can't pick and choose what's entered in Predator: Hunting Grounds for gameplay reasons and what isn't, to transform our desire into canon. The Jungle Hunter is, but the Viking Predator is not? The City Hunter is, but the Alpha Predator is not? Why, because two were featured in Predator movies (that we saw killed) and the other two weren't in a movie at all?
Its not picking and choosing if Illfonic already said so. Jungle and City are canonically dead, but present
only for gameplay reasons. Illfonic and Fox said the events of this game is canon, happens right after The Predator so idk what to tell you. Gameplay does not equal canon. Otherwise, you are telling me that one can continually block the attack of a +7ft 300lb alien super hunter, even though that can outmatch a human in pretty much all the stats....with a 6 inch knife?
Its noted both in the films and in the game that they are dead. Lore tapes said that OWLF examined the severed arm of CH and Dutch's tales after the events of the first film. Its noted and confirmed.
As for the other Predators, so far with the info we got from them, its very vague and open ended. Its been inferred that
maybe Viking has been slain in Valkyrie's bio and the reason why Valkyrie came to Earth as said in Illfonic's release blog:
QuoteAs we discovered in October, the Viking Predator can be traced back to when the Viking raiders managed to draw the attention of the Yautja. As the legends of this mighty creature spread, Norsemen saw an opportunity to gain an honorable death by way of this wanderer, so they continued to pursue glory. Few even relished over a Yautja death, which angered the Predators, so they sent in their fiercest warrior – the Valkyrie. This newest Predator class' sole purpose is to choose the slain worthy of a place in Valhalla. Many fought against her in search of glory, but none could best her. So beware, if you were able to bring a Viking Predator down, she is coming for you in this DLC pack.
Samurai and Valkyrie have
not yet been stated to be alive or dead in the current timeline, just that they existed, so its debatable if they are or not, leaving room for interpretation. Thats fine and its just more fun for people to think about. There is no real reasoning to suggest either are dead or alive. However this isn't the same for the trophies, as we all know how trophies were obtained, from hunting periods of time ago.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 02:49:25 AM
One must always check themselves in regards to personal desire versus reality. We play as Predators, from different ages. We get to unlock and decorate ourself with trophies from the ages we've seen belonging to Predators in films, and others we've never seen before. Dutch 2025 can fight along Dutch 1987. Just because Cleopatra appears to have cool Egyptian looking armor, doesn't mean she was even ever in Egypt. Her tribes' ancestors may have and passed these influences to their kin. We just don't know.
Again, its obvious that Dutch 2025 and Dutch 1987 cannot canonically meet and fight alongside each other. Its plain to see that Illfonic don't need to comfirm this, it doesn't make sense in any way shape or form other than just for gameplay reasons. Its like for God of War, when people questioned why enemies are tougher to beat along the way when Kratos is a God of War, Cory Barlog says that otherwise there would be no game, as Kratos would just one shot them all with the exceptions of the boss battles, as they are Gods themselves. Some things are for gameplay purposes and others are for story reasons. They are not the same at all and I would need some actual substantial reason to why gameplay equals canon.
Its like Aliens Fireteam Elite for example, having the classic marine armor is pure cosmetics. There is nothing in the game that supports the canon presence of the armor design in the current time period of the game. However, in comparison to Hunting Grounds, it makes more sense that a Predator being living long as 10,000 years old seeing that they are established to be very long lived creatures that are known to take skulls and objects of the time period in which they hunted in, as we see with the Elder in P2. The only difference we have is just we have different ideas of where the line is.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 02:49:25 AM
Now, the lore tapes we can pull something more substantial from, but I think we should head-check ourselves with the rest. :)
Makes sense as its outright stated, while the trophies are just indicate how long they have been around. I wouldn't mind if we took this up to Illfonic in a tweet or even ask them the question in a future interview, if there will be any.
You'll probably need to produce some receipts of those quotes for this to go anywhere other than circles.
Short take: if anything in Hunting Grounds is a likely contender for canon, it's going to be the tapes. Those tapes specifically mention the "Cleopatra" predator, so we know that at least one of the DLC characters lived through to modern times. She also happens to hail from the earliest point in history of any that we have so far, even if we err on the side of caution and place her first encounters with humans around the reign of Cleopatra VII, the last Pharaoh of Egypt (first century BCE).
The only debate then is whether you consider it likely that predators would either gift trophies and armour or claim them from each other in combat. If yes, then there isn't any conclusive proof that predators live more than a few centuries. If no, you have to accept that their lifespan probably extends to a least several thousand years. Cleopatra wouldn't be hunting on earth as a child, after all.
I guess you could also start to consider some life-preserving technology like hyper-sleep as well, which was going to be explicitly shown in the first AVP movie at one point.
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he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes
Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 29, 2021, 04:22:50 AM
Its not picking and choosing if Illfonic already said so. Jungle and City are canonically dead, but present only for gameplay reasons. Illfonic and Fox said the events of this game is canon, happens right after The Predator so idk what to tell you.
Yes, Illfonic said this game takes place after the events of "The Predator" where Stargazer has fallen out of the U.S. Government's graces, and O.W.L.F has been reinstated. Those events are canon as well as the creation of the humanoid female Predator where Illfonic and 20th Century worked very close together on. And based on the lore tapes and the Predator:Stalking Shadows novel, the Cleopatra Predator has walked the Earth at least twice in the last few decades.
But the rest of this I think you're trying to merge abstract with fact. In any mission scenario in this asymmetrical game, the Predator Player can play with any Predator: Dead Movie Predators,
Custom Predators, the very first Alpha Predator, a Predator from Viking times.... If the mission scenario was truly canon, which Predator was actually there? And did the Predator win, or did the Fireteam win? Because it keeps changing every time you play.
Yes, I would land on the side that the Predator DLC Characters Illfonic has created are additions to the lore. But playing random mission scenarios with a very old Predator doesn't mean it's still alive, nor does giving that Predator (or trophies) a backstory and supplying that backstory to the gamer.
Who knows, maybe one day a 15,000 year old lifespan might become true one day. But until then, it's just fan theory... that can be countered with Neca declaring that Yautja like the Lost Predators use time-travel. :)
Yeah I've never taken the trophies that are thousands of years old to be confirmation that Predators live that long, just that they're cool trophies they might have taken from different periods in human history when they might have visited Earth that you can use to customise your own.
Greyback giving Harrigan the flintlock in Predator 2 and various other places basically confirmed they can live for hundreds of years, but several thousand feels like it's pushing it to me.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
"he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes
Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.
In terms of what? Appearance? Place in canon? I honestly don't get what you mean here. Only thing is that she is Dutch's rival and the tapes hinted at Round 2 coming about in the near future. How, when, and where will go down is beyond me.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
But the rest of this I think you're trying to merge abstract with fact. In any mission scenario in this asymmetrical game, the Predator Player can play with any Predator: Dead Movie Predators, Custom Predators, the very first Alpha Predator, a Predator from Viking times.... If the mission scenario was truly canon, which Predator was actually there? And did the Predator win, or did the Fireteam win? Because it keeps changing every time you play.
But I already pointed this out earlier. I know that we don't know who were the individuals of Fireteam doing the missions or the particular individual Predator being present in the event, only that Fireteam, Predator, and Stargazer were present in these mission events. Its like Aliens Fireteam Elite for example, Fireteam was present in these mission events that went down in LV-895. Only that we don't know which class, individuals, or weapon gear were present canonically in the game during the time of these events, only that the missions indeed happened. Otherwise, by your reasoning, Aliens Fireteam Elite as a whole isn't canon because we don't know who were present and what truly went down in these mission scenarios.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
Yes, I would land on the side that the Predator DLC Characters Illfonic has created are additions to the lore. But playing random mission scenarios with a very old Predator doesn't mean it's still alive, nor does giving that Predator (or trophies) a backstory and supplying that backstory to the gamer.
For clarity, excluding the ones that are canonically dead, I already have addressed that some Predators' fates is left unclear about their ultimate end so its just up in the air what truly happened to them. I'm not here to argue for their living or dead status as I have nothing to support either or of their fates.
What I am saying, is that referencing Elder's flintlock pistol trophy indicated that Predators not only collect trophies that aren't only skulls and spines, but can live for centuries. Taking that into account, with the trophies we have now present in the game, with the oldest one possibly being 10,000 years old, the way the bios are written as if the trophies were being studied and cataloged, that means there was at least one Predator out there that was killed and taken by OWLF, took a look at the Prehistoric Mace it had, sampled it and found its age through carbon dating. Why else is the trophy's lore written out that way?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
Who knows, maybe one day a 15,000 year old lifespan might become true one day. But until then, it's just fan theory... that can be countered with Neca declaring that Yautja like the Lost Predators use time-travel. :)
Well, guess the only way to find out is to ask Illfonic themselves in the next livestream, QA event, or even if AVPG does an interview with them.
I counter that with Illfonic, NECA, and Fox together declaring Alpha Predator canon to the series, but nothing said about the rest of the NECA figures. Unless I'm missing something here of course.
Neca being canonical is said due to lore from it being used within the "Predator bible". The issue with that document (outside none of us having access to it to know specifics) is that it was written with the mindset that AVP was canonical to the solo franchise which outside the two crossover films being intended during the production of The Predator, it's a separate continuity. Fox and later Disney when they asked about it segregated things by franchise despite owning both franchises. As a result stuff that's canon to AVP might not be canon to Alien or Predator and it's done that way either by branding or the other creature appearing in that title. It should also be noted that it's outdated by 2018 so things could've changed since them. Of course us not having access to the thing makes everything dubious anyways if it had material that never saw the light of day like the Assassin apparently being a Super Predator.
So Serpent Hunter is estimated to be near 1000 and it's weird he wasn't showing his age, but being he's apart of AVP this may not factor into the upper limits of solo material aging. We just don't know one way or the other but in AVP material it's stated they can reach 1000, just that they do start to wear down by then and it's weird Serpent Hunter wasn't.
As far as solo material goes we know they can live up to the hundreds of years given City Hunter is estimated to have been around 300 when he died and that's still considered young.
Based off appearances the only one we know to be old would be Elder and the AVP ancient but we have no idea what the age of them is. Cleopatra since she shares the same face as the females and isn't mentioned by the devs to be older than the others like both elders are we don't know if she's 30 or 30,000. She does have an "ancient disk" but we have no idea how she acquired it, just that she did.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 29, 2021, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
"he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes
Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.
In terms of what?
"Almost Egyptian" as in we don't even know if Cleo's armor is really Egyptian based, or perhaps it is, and perhaps Egyptian armor is Predator based (ala Stargate or the sort) and perhaps this is the garb of a Predator clan, and quite possibly Cleo has never even been in Egypt, etc..
I just appreciate all the ambiguity.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Sep 30, 2021, 12:06:31 AM
Neca being canonical is said due to lore from it being used within the "Predator bible". The issue with that document (outside none of us having access to it to know specifics) is that it was written with the mindset that AVP was canonical to the solo franchise which outside the two crossover films being intended during the production of The Predator, it's a separate continuity. Fox and later Disney when they asked about it segregated things by franchise despite owning both franchises. As a result stuff that's canon to AVP might not be canon to Alien or Predator and it's done that way either by branding or the other creature appearing in that title. It should also be noted that it's outdated by 2018 so things could've changed since them. Of course us not having access to the thing makes everything dubious anyways if it had material that never saw the light of day like the Assassin apparently being a Super Predator.
Yeah this Fox/Neca and AVP/Predator situation is such a mess, thats why its hard for me to take any of the info there with credit due to too many contradictions and the separation of the AVP/Predator series makes everything outdated and dubious.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Sep 30, 2021, 12:06:31 AM
Based off appearances the only one we know to be old would be Elder and the AVP ancient but we have no idea what the age of them is. Cleopatra since she shares the same face as the females and isn't mentioned by the devs to be older than the others like both elders are we don't know if she's 30 or 30,000. She does have an "ancient disk" but we have no idea how she acquired it, just that she did.
It's unfortunate that Illfonic never made the unique Predators also have unique facial appearances as well. Its something that many people like myself had pointed out with great disappointment.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 30, 2021, 12:56:15 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 29, 2021, 11:15:18 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
"he described its armor as far more ornate almost egyptian in its regal design. Physically it was slimmer but far more deadly than any previously encountered " - Keyes
Yeah, we don't know what the exact deal is with Cleo.
In terms of what?
"Almost Egyptian" as in we don't even know if Cleo's armor is really Egyptian based, or perhaps it is, and perhaps Egyptian armor is Predator based (ala Stargate or the sort) and perhaps this is the garb of a Predator clan, and quite possibly Cleo has never even been in Egypt, etc..
I just appreciate all the ambiguity.
I mean, looking at the design, it looks Egyptian based to me.
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/b/b0/Cleopatra.png/revision/latest?cb=20210901212256)
(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/avp/images/e/e5/CleopatraLizTaylor.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/265?cb=20210901215442)
Additionally, going by with how the pattern of past cultural based Predators hunting in the respective regions of said culture like Samurai hunting actual samurai in Japan and Viking hunting vikings in the Iron Age, this would suggest that Cleopatra was hunting in Egypt during their time as an empire. Its just dubious on which time period she was hunting such as Egypt has a long timeline where she could have visited anytime. Based on the info of Samurai and Viking, they were hunting when their human counterparts were already a established power and the Predators simply mimicked them, or at least thats the info that is suggestion but yeah its very here and there kind of thing.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 30, 2021, 03:04:14 PM
I mean, looking at the design, it looks Egyptian based to me.
It can just as easily be Predator based, meaning Egypt is one of those special places on Earth where many have hypothesized extra terrestrials had a hand in developing their civilization.
P.S. Your pics aren't showing, a usual result linking to wiki images unfortunately.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 30, 2021, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Sep 30, 2021, 03:04:14 PM
I mean, looking at the design, it looks Egyptian based to me.
It can just as easily be Predator based, meaning Egypt is one of those special places on Earth where many have hypothesized extra terrestrials had a hand in developing their civilization.
P.S. Your pics aren't showing, a usual result linking to wiki images unfortunately.
Maybe, I'm just going with the pattern of the previous historical Predator info that they were hunting in the time period when the samurai and vikings were already established. Maybe Cleo is the exception? Idk really....
Pics ain't showing, goddammit. Why does wiki images have to be like this all of a sudden, this blows! Oh well
So how many DLC-s are left to be released? Only one extra Predator incoming?
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 07, 2021, 08:39:12 AM
So how many DLC-s are left to be released? Only one extra Predator incoming?
Yes, it appears by the silhouette that a new Predator is incoming this month...
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51413504814_d4b39ac929_b.jpg)
...and I personally suspect we'll continue to get new content towards the release of "Skulls".
It has been frustrating to find the lore tapes. I've grinded all the weapons to 10, and myself to level 150, done most of the achievements, but found something like 4 lore tapes only.
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2021, 08:57:43 PM
It has been frustrating to find the lore tapes. I've grinded all the weapons to 10, and myself to level 150, done most of the achievements, but found something like 4 lore tapes only.
Bring and use the UAV at different campsites to find them.
Okay my brother from another mother, time to take you to task and rant! ;)
Three weeks ago when I was raving about this year's DLC, you countered about Cleo:
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 17, 2021, 06:38:12 PM
Cleo is another cosplay meme slow Predator with bad stats like Samurai and Viking. Not a big fan of the design, and if you evaluate her gameplay wise: sure it workes great against randoms, anything does, but in competitive matches she is just...
Yet in your awesome ranking video you ranked Cleo
better than the Samurai,
better than the Viking, better than the Berserker, and equal to the Scout.
But what's worse is you also accused the game of being "pay to win" three weeks ago....
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 17, 2021, 06:38:12 PMWhile Dante and Dutch'87 are still the same overpowered pay to win ft dlc as they always been.
But in your video you ranked Dutch'87 a tier
under Support, Recon, Dante and Scout. And how is it "pay to win" when the top tier has three classes you don't have to pay for???
Okay, rant over. ;D
Otherwise, everyone check out Samhain13's videos everyone. They are very fun and informative!
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=64378.75
Samurai and Viking are DLC too. Just cause Cleo is better than the worse classes doesnt make her great. Default Hunter class still way better than her. You are paying to play for a half decent melee class that is what the Berserker should have been in the first place and was before he was nerfed to shit due to complains at launch. She can be seen as a pay to win version of the Berserker for those that wanted to use melee as Predator, but melee isn't the most effective way to play as Predator anyway, only works vs randoms. Scout is not considered to be a good class by most people even though he is build for long range combat so being equal to him doesnt exactly mean much.
In the FT ranking I take in consideration both how the classes are while playing solo with randoms, on a premade team and at the hands of players that can maximize their full potential.
If you playing solo Dutch87 is overall better than Recon, Scout and Support, most players can have a higher chance of winning with him or Dante than with the other classes, since they are both tanky and damage dealing classes.
Recon is only S tier if you put the tracker perk on him, otherwise he is A like I said on the video, Scout only became S tier due to Illfonic fixing his post sprint 20% damage boost on the last patch, both can be insanely overpowered but only on the hands of players that know how to use those classes, mainly those that have very good aiming at spotting and shooting the Predator on PC + are playing on a coordinated team with classes that function well together.
On the hand of average players using Scout and Recon will make them die faster than if they were using Dutch87 since they are kind of glass cannons, without a team of other players to support you and not having good aim one wont get much out of them. Support's passive of damage reduction and fast revive speed on the hands of bad players only delays their death, it wont give them the same advantage as using Dutch87 does. Pay to win helps to give bad players a higher chance of winning vs those better than them, and thats mainly what Dante and Dutch87 do. Any type of player will get an advantage by playing with those 2.
Dutch87 almost made it to S tier though, he is probably a little better than the Assault and the OWLF Operative that are on the same tier. Maybe he could be above those 2, but then I would need a S+ tier to put Dante, Recon, Scout and Support and I didnt feel like the difference between him and the other 2 on A tier were worth making a whole tier just for him, they are more or less around the same level after all.
Problem isn't just having pay to win FT classes but not having Predator ones, that would be only fair. All decent DLC Predator were nerfed while FTs were not. Also if a FT class should be OP it should be Dutch2025 cus it would make sense considering the lore.
City used to be pay to win I guess, he was a faster Hunter with more gear points, then they decreased his perks points from 12 to 10 cus complains, thus stopped being the best Predator class. Valkyrie was nerfed as well cus people whined about her being overpowered, which despite that she indeed had the best stats in the game, being a complete superior version of the Scout, she couldn't carry traps together with medkits like Hunter or City so she had a disadvantage that prevented her from being considered the best class at least in the hands of those that know how to use traps. Before her nerf and Predator specializations, S tier would be her, Jungle/Hunter and City.
Another example of a S tier class that can suck at the hands of bad players is the Elder, since he can have an high offensive power due to Stalker many people choose to go for him, it gives the ilusion they can just overpower anyone, thing is his lack of stamina and speed will get most players killed vs fireteams that want to chase you down to kill. Unless you are someone with experience dealing with that, using him only make things worse for you vs agressive good FTs, since one will not have the chance to use his damage dealing strengh before dying.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 01:59:41 PM
Otherwise, everyone check out Samhain13's videos everyone. They are very fun and informative!
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=64378.75
Thanks.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 13, 2021, 05:46:55 PM
Samurai and Viking are DLC too. Just cause Cleo is better than the worse classes doesnt make her great.
No, you called Cleo decent though (which she is). And recognized her as the best option for melee (which not only works on randomers honestly but experienced players too if it's peppered in and out. Pick your spots.) And the differences between the middle tier Predators are minimal to be honest, but they're all playable.
Plus with Cleo's energy, I personally like running her with an unlimited camouflage with Modified Reserves and just smart disc and shoot arrows from high points and never lose cloak due to a drain of power.
But hey, ask yourself: If the Cleopatra DLC Predator came out and it was the best Predator in the game - better than them all... would you be happy? Or would you be calling her a "Pay to Win" class too? It seems like a no-win-situation when viewed from the angle you're viewing it.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 13, 2021, 05:46:55 PM
If you playing solo Dutch87 is overall better than Recon, Scout and Support, most players can have a higher chance of winning with him or Dante than with the other classes, since they are both tanky and damage dealing classes.
See, this is where I think you're laying it on a bit thick and I just wish you'd say, 'yeah, maybe I oversold it a bit saying Dutch'87 is pay to win.' First, solo is situational. Second, if you and the Predator are equally good players at full health, you're not surviving solo as Dutch'87 (hence why it's an asymmetrical game and therefore not really "pay to win".)
Also, I'd argue there's advantages and disadvantages to being Support or Dutch or Sniper if you end up solo, depending on your playstyle AND the Predator's playstyle.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
No, you called Cleo decent though (which she is).
Maybe its my understanding on english but I think decent and great are 2 different things. She is fine, she isn't bad, that's all. Bad stamina and speed but specializations, perk, gear points and damage boost make up for it a little.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
And recognized her as the best option for melee (which not only works on randomers honestly but experienced players too if it's peppered in and out. Pick your spots.)
Not if its a good FT playing on PC. Sure I have beaten PC premades FTs with melee on the past, which could be done by PS preds as there isn't much difference in using melee as Predator playing PS or PC. But those players weren't in like the top 1% of this game which is who I base when I say that melee isn't effective to work on. Maybe that's mainly what differs my experience and opinion, I evaluate the game by including how it works on PC, and since this game wasn't originally designed to be released for PC, I think that's where a lot of balancing issues come into play. FT advantage is higher on PC due to how the mouse helps in aiming to spot and hit the Predator, FT gameplay gets a higher advantage on PC than Predator's.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
And the differences between the middle tier Predators are minimal to be honest, but they're all playable.
More noticeable in competitive level matches with players that are all using meta FT builds.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
Plus with Cleo's energy, I personally like running her with an unlimited camouflage with Modified Reserves and just smart disc and shoot arrows from high points and never lose cloak due to a drain of power.
All classes will get unlimited cloak as long as they aren't using thermal with modified reserve, except by Viking, Berserker and Samurai I believe. I made a video a while ago testing it on all. Scout actually can use both thermal and cloak without energy drain with modified reserve.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
But hey, ask yourself: If the Cleopatra DLC Predator came out and it was the best Predator in the game - better than them all... would you be happy? Or would you be calling her a "Pay to Win" class too? It seems like a no-win-situation when viewed from the angle you're viewing it.
I would be fine with it cus it would balance out with the pay to win FT dlc. Its fair if both sides get it. And like I said FT clearly has the advantage over the Predator on PC, you give them more overpowered stuff while Predator gets nothing, just screws the game's balancing even more. From what I hear from some PS teams, on privates usually FT tend to have a higher winrate regardless of who plays as predator, so maybe its not just on PC, even if its more notiable there. You have all players on the same level of skill, chances of FT winning are always higher.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
See, this is where I think you're laying it on a bit thick and I just wish you'd say, 'yeah, maybe I oversold it a bit saying Dutch'87 is pay to win.'
He is not as much pay to win as Dante is.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
First, solo is situational. Second, if you and the Predator are equally good players at full health, you're not surviving solo as Dutch'87 (hence why it's an asymmetrical game and therefore not really "pay to win".)
You can if you are doing a 1v1 wristblades x knife fight vs a Hunter class using Dutch87 + thick skin + owlf trained + mud resistance damage + last survivor boost + 2 fast healing syrettes to heal. Vs Dante would probably be harder to fight vs, its easy as hell to 1v1 preds with him in knife fights regardless the player cus thats how the game work, I mean the knife and the parry is bs in general on this game, but with those classes it just takes to another level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bnc_3D0NV8Sure this guy is among the best players in the PC community, both wristblades and Hunter like classes suck for melee combat but this is suppose to be a 1v4 game yet I seen him beat the best PC preds in knife fights and if he was using Assault or Recon things would be diffferent.
Of course in a long range weapon approach this happens instead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmBuR5MP4tgQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
Also, I'd argue there's advantages and disadvantages to being Support or Dutch or Sniper if you end up solo, depending on your playstyle AND the Predator's playstyle.
And there are playstyles that are much more effective than others and can give a much bigger advantage depending on the skill level and platform of the players.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 13, 2021, 09:56:10 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 13, 2021, 07:59:30 PM
First, solo is situational. Second, if you and the Predator are equally good players at full health, you're not surviving solo as Dutch'87 (hence why it's an asymmetrical game and therefore not really "pay to win".)
You can if you are doing a 1v1 wristblades x knife fight vs a Hunter class using Dutch87 + thick skin + owlf trained + mud resistance damage + last survivor boost + 2 fast healing syrettes to heal. Vs Dante would probably be harder to fight vs, its easy as hell to 1v1 preds with him in knife fights regardless the player cus thats how the game work, I mean the knife and the parry is bs in general on this game, but with those classes it just takes to another level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bnc_3D0NV8
Err... yeah... :laugh: I'm sorry but if I watched a Predator play like this in a real match I'd say he was a noob. This was a staged blade battle. We both know nobody who knows how to play Predator: Hunting Grounds nor has experience playing would play as a Predator this way, understanding wristblades, how parry and the mechanics work. So this is not a fair representation of gameplay, nor simulation of realistic gameplay and subsequently not a representation that Dutch'87 as pay to win. Funny to watch though. ;D
Sidenote: When I was talking about melee working on experienced players if it's peppered in and you pick your spots, I mean jump in camouflaged, slash with a weapon and jump out, often when they're distracted by AI or moving from points A to B. :)
So both players agreed to have a knife vs wristblades fight for fun at the end, it was a private match among friends and sometimes we do that. Its not like there are players that would do better than this with wristblades only, noobs would have died there. You can just see what happens when I decide to not that on the second video. Still its stupid as hell that 1 fireteam can almost beat a Predator 1v1 even with only wristblades, it shouldn't be like this.
I had players ask to do knife vs wristblades fights on public games both playing as ft or pred. Its a thing on the game.
Yeah, you jump in with melee, then we all turn fire you and make you go second wind in 3 seconds then snipe you mid air while you leaping away and then you die before you can heal. Its what happens with most Predators that try melee vs me, the shortest matches. Maybe against ps teams it could last longer.
We need an Eskimo Predator.
Can't wait to see the new Predator that we'll (assumingly) get in a couple weeks!
Quote from: Samhain13 on Oct 14, 2021, 02:30:10 AM
Still its stupid as hell that 1 fireteam can almost beat a Predator 1v1 even with only wristblades, it shouldn't be like this.
So is healing yourself with a syringe after you've been impaled with a combistick. But I understand its need and am fine with it; a game mechanic so Predators don't just melee everyone to death. But that's where the other Predator toys come in.
You could possibly do a mode where it really is just fisticuffs. Like how Dutch setup a bunch of traps you have the player setup traps at the start of the match and dare the Predator player to come after you using only their fists. So FT spawns first and you can go to specific areas and create traps to block or impede progress. The FT however can't just place these things, they do have to wait for the interaction to complete which means your trap setting can backfire if you take too long as you wont be able to place more after the trap setting countdown is over and the match begins. .
Both sides can only melee but FT can find weapons at the start of the match like a bow and arrow that fires explosives or health packs, however they wont be able to get ammo for the bow.
Predator wont have mask nor can cloak.
The fireteam has to wait for a recue chopper to arrive with OWLF backup, chopper arrival begins when the player finds a radio to call for help which isn't necessarily in the location you hold up in. The players then have to rush the chopper while getting around Stargazer PMC moving in to mop you up while Predator tries to run you down.
So something I noticed about our new Predator (Exile) is that his choice of weapon seems to be styled after a climbing axe. Kind of weird to note but something I found kind of interesting given we know them to be great climbers. The implication at least to me is that it's less a weapon and more a tool. Likely something from a hunting kit or the home world that either had dual purpose or was repurposed into a weapon. If that is the case that seems like a cool detail for not only the Predator's as a whole but for the Exile as well given we know he can't go back into Yaujta territory for some reason. In this case likely having to make due with what he had which meant hunting with something out of a tool kit.
Granted I could be entirely off base with this. The description (if it has one) didn't load in for me. Still if that was the case that's a good bit of character work on Illfonic's part.
So the Isabelle tapes mention that Royce became one of the Yautja. They gifted him with their armor and tech. Could he possibly be added in as a Predator character one day?
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 31, 2021, 07:02:25 PM
So the Isabelle tapes mention that Royce became one of the Yautja. They gifted him with their armor and tech. Could he possibly be added in as a Predator character one day?
I think it's possible, but I assume it gets less likely the more older this game gets. But if Adrien Brody was affordable enough and they could justify all the costs versus speculated demand, I don't know any reason why it wouldn't be feasible as long as licensing gave it a green light.
Quote from: The Shuriken on Oct 31, 2021, 07:02:25 PM
So the Isabelle tapes mention that Royce became one of the Yautja. They gifted him with their armor and tech. Could he possibly be added in as a Predator character one day?
Only if it doesn't look like the cartoonish thing in the comic.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Oct 14, 2021, 11:35:11 PM
You could possibly do a mode where it really is just fisticuffs. Like how Dutch setup a bunch of traps you have the player setup traps at the start of the match and dare the Predator player to come after you using only their fists. So FT spawns first and you can go to specific areas and create traps to block or impede progress. The FT however can't just place these things, they do have to wait for the interaction to complete which means your trap setting can backfire if you take too long as you wont be able to place more after the trap setting countdown is over and the match begins. .
Both sides can only melee but FT can find weapons at the start of the match like a bow and arrow that fires explosives or health packs, however they wont be able to get ammo for the bow.
Predator wont have mask nor can cloak.
The fireteam has to wait for a recue chopper to arrive with OWLF backup, chopper arrival begins when the player finds a radio to call for help which isn't necessarily in the location you hold up in. The players then have to rush the chopper while getting around Stargazer PMC moving in to mop you up while Predator tries to run you down.
That would be an amazing Mode! I would think it very engaging and much more suspenseful.
Speaking of suspenseful, these night modes have made the game a lot more suspenseful. Lots of scary Predator sneak attacks. Love it!
I need verification of something. Was it true that Illfonic intentionally made the game to be balanced in favor of Fireteam since the beginning of the game's production? Like I remember this detail was brought up in a podcast interview that if Fireteam worked together, they would always win against the Predator but I am not sure. I recalled this due to their latest Predator Twitch streaming that when it comes to balancing and gameplay changes, they purposely mostly look at making gameplay fun for Fireteam players rather than a balance of both Fireteam AND Predator players and I recall in that moment that something similar was said in one of the interviews here by AVPGalaxy.
Secondary reason why I bring this up is that they provided additional reason to why they balanced the scale of Fireteam to have an equal footing of 1vs1 fights with Predator and Fireteam and its the primary reason why they shot down the idea of 2P vs 6FT as they believe the balance would favor Predator too much, as it would be 2 vs 1 due to focus fire........even though the single Fireteam has 5 more of his people behind his back?
I don't believe Illfonic would think this narrowly but I just need more verification if this statement and vision is true to their gameplay changes or not, and the detail from the interview they had here would be very useful.
Thank you in advance!
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2021, 08:42:01 PM
I need verification of something. Was it true that Illfonic intentionally made the game to be balanced in favor of Fireteam since the beginning of the game's production? Like I remember this detail was brought up in a podcast interview that if Fireteam worked together, they would always win against the Predator but I am not sure. I recalled this due to their latest Predator Twitch streaming that when it comes to balancing and gameplay changes, they purposely mostly look at making gameplay fun for Fireteam players rather than Predator players and I recall in that moment that something similar was said in one of the interviews here by AVPGalaxy.
Yep. We had actually discussed it before.
Illfonic's CEO Charles Brungardt and CCO Jared Gerritzen said on our very own AvPGalaxy podcast that they wanted to flip the tables where the Hunter becomes the Hunted, where this Elite Fireteam can be a stronger force than the Predator if they work together. Where a Predator is not a God. That it bleeds. Where it can be stressful to be a Predator. A game where the Predator has to be tactical to accomplish goals.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 29, 2021, 02:14:43 AM
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2021, 08:42:01 PM
I need verification of something. Was it true that Illfonic intentionally made the game to be balanced in favor of Fireteam since the beginning of the game's production? Like I remember this detail was brought up in a podcast interview that if Fireteam worked together, they would always win against the Predator but I am not sure. I recalled this due to their latest Predator Twitch streaming that when it comes to balancing and gameplay changes, they purposely mostly look at making gameplay fun for Fireteam players rather than Predator players and I recall in that moment that something similar was said in one of the interviews here by AVPGalaxy.
Yep. We had actually discussed it before.
Illfonic's CEO Charles Brungardt and CCO Jared Gerritzen said on our very own AvPGalaxy podcast that they wanted to flip the tables where the Hunter becomes the Hunted, where this Elite Fireteam can be a stronger force than the Predator if they work together. Where a Predator is not a God. That it bleeds. Where it can be stressful to be a Predator. A game where the Predator has to be tactical to accomplish goals.
Got ya!
Yeah, the reason I ask about the conformation is because its just been a recent discussion in the Predator Hunting Grounds "Official" (The closest thing we have to one oddly) Discord about the upcoming year's worth of content will actually be worth anything substantial. Its like sure, we got new maps, new DLC, AI bots, and some game bug fixes, but there hasn't been any real shift in gameplay changes that will really make things interesting to stay around longer for. And for what you confirmed already, this is the reason why it is falling apart. On paper this doesn't sound that bad....
Quotethey wanted to flip the tables where the Hunter becomes the Hunted, where this Elite Fireteam can be a stronger force than the Predator if they work together. Where a Predator is not a God. That it bleeds. Where it can be stressful to be a Predator. A game where the Predator has to be tactical to accomplish goals.
This issue right here is why so many are currently dissatisfied with the game. There has been a lack of making Predator gameplay much more enjoyable or refreshing to play if Fireteam is the main focus of the game. It's like why even play a game that is clearly one sided for? Something that the devs admitted they clearly will support one side than the other, when its the main star attraction of the game itself? Where is the fun in that? Why keep playing a game, for the average Predator player, who has been playing the game for 2 years now, who knows enough by new that in matches they will either play against players who are easy to take down cause they have no idea of how to even understand the basic fundamentals of the game, or against people who not only know how to play but dominates 9/10 times due to the sheer fact that the current gameplay balance makes it so that Fireteam always takes the wins. I mean it took nearly half a year for Predators to have their own specializations after Fireteam had them and that's only because people have no-stop been begging for it just to have some form of equal footing and somehow this didn't occur to the devs to also add this alongside Predator players as well? And I can't even be marked as just a sour Predator player who "doesn't know how to play" because....
Additionally, as Fireteam MAIN, it doesn't feel fun anymore to always beat every single Predator that comes my way, knowing full well that the balance is stacked against them, so its no longer thrilling? I should have certain feelings whenever I face different classes of Predator, like fearing the idea of letting Berserker getting close to me otherwise I will get dominated but they always go down the same way, using the knife to block everything while their stamina pool tanks and my Fireteam takes down the Berserker from behind. Idk about why the player skill is like this but I know at least due to the lack of gameplay changes that incentives new creative ways to push the Predator players in becoming a deadlier force and in turn make it a more exciting challenge to fight against, the meta has been stale for at least two years. Its saddening really, and I want to see this game continue to be successful. Whats the old saying when it comes to storytelling that can also be applied to this situation
"Each story is only as good as its villain. Since the heroes and the gimmicks tend to repeat from [story] to [story], only a great villain can transform a good try into a triumph." And with the current meta, its not looking too good for the Predator, which in turn makes it not fun for Fireteam.
I recall that you tried to connect with the PHG Forums folks to share your own thoughts of the game, but it was way too toxic to even try and I don't blame you, its way too chaotic and nasty in there. If you would like to engage in a much more friendlier area with folks that can share thier experiences and thoughts about the game that isn't the toxic Official Forums, I would kindly recommend the PHG "Official" Discord to hang around in. We got Samhain in there and even Ridgetop hangs around to give some thoughts here and there and feed the datamine info we find in there into here like the recent Tracker Mask and the past Isabelle DLC. Ghost around, just to get a strong understanding of why people are upset with the dev's vision about the game and see its not just people being salty for petty reasons. Always room for one more in the memeful bunch in there, especially for a AVPGalaxy top tier member ;D
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2021, 08:42:01 PM
I need verification of something. Was it true that Illfonic intentionally made the game to be balanced in favor of Fireteam since the beginning of the game's production?
Yes. They are probably know that in public matchmaking you can get braindead teammates that don't do anything, so they balanced it around that possibility, by giving the means for only few fireteams to outpower the Predator. But then you have matches vs 4 premade teams that are good at the game...
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 28, 2021, 08:42:01 PM
Like I remember this detail was brought up in a podcast interview that if Fireteam worked together, they would always win against the Predator but I am not sure. I recalled this due to their latest Predator Twitch streaming that when it comes to balancing and gameplay changes, they purposely mostly look at making gameplay fun for Fireteam players rather than Predator players and I recall in that moment that something similar was said in one of the interviews here by AVPGalaxy.
Yeah, I heard about that on their last stream and talked about people in contact with Illfonic devs and yeah they are very fireteam sided, fun for the fireteam f**k the Predator, thats the Illfonic way. They don't ever play as Predator and the ones that play as fireteam are really bad at fps. And they take in consideration their matches with other to balance the game, which explain a lot. You have people that don't ever bother or care about playing as Predator and that have bad aim playing this game so... they increased the ft dmg to insane amount so even if you hit just a few bullets you can still outdamage the Predator.
Me and others have been inviting people to play as Predator vs us on the main discord so they can see how unbalanced it is, its different when you are facing a squad that is hitting most of their shots with meta weapons. Everyone is just 1 match away from seeing how weak the Predator is on this game.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 29, 2021, 01:05:02 PM
Yeah, I heard about that on their last stream and talked about people in contact with Illfonic devs and yeah they are very fireteam sided, fun for the fireteam f**k the Predator, thats the Illfonic way. They don't ever play as Predator and the ones that play as fireteam are really bad at fps. And they take in consideration their matches with other to balance the game, which explain a lot. You have people that don't ever bother or care about playing as Predator and that have bad aim playing this game so... they increased the ft dmg to insane amount so even if you hit just a few bullets you can still outdamage the Predator.
That's what I find so off putting that they never even give Predator a chance to be shown off in their livestreams. Its always Fireteam, its almost like they have shame for the Predator character. I feel like the community should get together and ask the dev team to stream a Predator gameplay livestream the next time around, as it has been two years, soon to be three, of only Fireteam gameplay.
And before they say, oh how will OldKingHamlet or the other two devs have a shot of playing the game too in the matches.....just take turns then :D
I would additionally add to my original statement; its not the idea of having Fireteam having the
possibility to overpower the Predator that bothers me, its the balance of how that issue is executed. If the gameplay is tuned that one Fireteam can single handily take down a Predator on their own, which Illfonic admitted they wanted the game to be 1v1, then a full team will always take the top, because the power of
one you give will
multiply drastically with the
additional 3, making the scale of the battle to heavy on
one side. The second statement Voodoo posted of having the Predator being stressed out is true but "has to be tactical to accomplish goals" will never be if there is a lack of gameplay balance and utility that gives the Predator player the
chance to turn things around.
If the power of one can overwhelm a Predator, the power of four will always triumph over the Predator, no matter the circumstance. At that point, its not a fun cat and mouse game but a glorified turkey hunt, and I didn't sign up for that. I don't feel threatened as Fireteam, and its either too easy or impossible as Predator.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Dec 29, 2021, 01:05:02 PM
Me and others have been inviting people to play as Predator vs us on the main discord so they can see how unbalanced it is, its different when you are facing a squad that is hitting most of their shots with meta weapons. Everyone is just 1 match away from seeing how weak the Predator is on this game.
I know Hicks, Voodoo, and Ridgetop play, I'm surprised you also haven't squad them up yet. We have one of the top, if not The Number One player right here in the forums, it would be a great livestream to see all for of you just chill and chat about the game and stuff in a stream one day.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 29, 2021, 05:55:18 PM
That's what I find so off putting that they never even give Predator a chance to be shown off in their livestreams. Its always Fireteam, its almost like they have shame for the Predator character. I feel like the community should get together and ask the dev team to stream a Predator gameplay livestream the next time around, as it has been two years, soon to be three, of only Fireteam gameplay.
And before they say, oh how will OldKingHamlet or the other two devs have a shot of playing the game too in the matches.....just take turns then :D
I would additionally add to my original statement; its not the idea of having Fireteam having the possibility to overpower the Predator that bothers me, its the balance of how that issue is executed. If the gameplay is tuned that one Fireteam can single handily take down a Predator on their own, which Illfonic admitted they wanted the game to be 1v1, then a full team will always take the top, because the power of one you give will multiply drastically with the additional 3, making the scale of the battle to heavy on one side. The second statement Voodoo posted of having the Predator being stressed out is true but "has to be tactical to accomplish goals" will never be if there is a lack of gameplay balance and utility that gives the Predator player the chance to turn things around.
If the power of one can overwhelm a Predator, the power of four will always triumph over the Predator, no matter the circumstance. At that point, its not a fun cat and mouse game but a glorified turkey hunt, and I didn't sign up for that. I don't feel threatened as Fireteam, and its either too easy or impossible as Predator.
You kind of need to ambush the fireteam, predator players had adapt due to all the balancing changing and come up with diffferent ways on how to catch the fireteam off guard to get a kill. Most kind of gave up on the game, either stopped playing it completelly or settle down to just play as fireteam instead, since being the Predator became too hard, at least thats how it went on PC.
Easiest way at the moment is with the smart disk but you need a good ping for it, otherwise its all about getting someone trapped or using the lens perk to do surprise charged plasma shots. You can also try the combi/bow combo which is you jump next to ft, throw combi and follow with arrow shot to get him down fast, its risky since you need to get close, requires good aiming, reaction time and missing might make you lose all your hp in 3-5 seconds. I shown more of that in practice on my videos.
In regards to Illfonic streams, I think there were many occasions people that tried to get them to play as Predator and its rare. On the last stream one of them played one match as Predator which he lost vs people I know that don't really try much on this game, I did try to get into there to play but ended up only for the Clash match which was meh. I would be up to do even a 1v2 match with any Illfonic dev as Predator just to show how OP Fireteam can be.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Dec 29, 2021, 05:55:18 PM
I know Hicks, Voodoo, and Ridgetop play, I'm surprised you also haven't squad them up yet. We have one of the top, if not The Number One player right here in the forums, it would be a great livestream to see all for of you just chill and chat about the game and stuff in a stream one day.
Not sure about my rating there haha. But sure I don't mind playing with others here.
Isabelle concept art by Ivan Dedov recently posted on his Instagram.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZhSzZir.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yckrRl5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nkOwevZ.jpg)
Some new bio-mask concept art posted also: https://www.instagram.com/ivandedovart/?hl=en
The Jaw ! :D
Another concept art update from Ivan Dedov, of 'Exiled.'
Nice detail with spines on his skirt. Also, I can't be the only one who thought it was a facehugger on his back
More fantastic concept art from Ivan Dedov, of Cleo:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaCboL6qXQy/?utm_medium=copy_link
Give me Persian Empire and Spartan Predator next.
Give me some EU Predators and Fireteam members!
But Ivan's artwork comes to impress! All his concepts have been fantastic.
The European Union had Yautja? When? And what's their the stance on Brexit? *badoomcha
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 21, 2022, 09:57:24 AM
Give me some EU Predators and Fireteam members!
But Ivan's artwork comes to impress! All his concepts have been fantastic.
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/da6mwoW6Cs0DbER02R/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47q4v2625jg8ibixy9slp0iud4mssllj5s9uc32ryf&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 21, 2022, 09:57:24 AM
Give me some EU Predators and Fireteam members!
Yes please! Lost Predators too!
QuoteBut Ivan's artwork comes to impress! All his concepts have been fantastic.
Oh yes! They need to all be available as posters and collected in a physical art book!
This is exactly my expression reading the last two pages of this thread. Somebody is just trying to find gears to grind.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Feb 22, 2022, 03:44:29 PM
https://media4.giphy.com/media/da6mwoW6Cs0DbER02R/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47q4v2625jg8ibixy9slp0iud4mssllj5s9uc32ryf&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g
Reminder they have yet to release the Warpaints for people that didn't buy the Pred pack.
so they didnt get something they thought they were going to get for free? Then it must upset them even more to know that the Predator Hunting party is free on epic games where other platforms have to pay for it.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 26, 2022, 10:03:40 PM
Reminder they have yet to release the Warpaints for people that didn't buy the Pred pack.
Quote from: acrediblesource on Feb 26, 2022, 11:58:46 PM
so they didnt get something they thought they were going to get for free? Then it must upset them even more to know that the Predator Hunting party is free on epic games where other platforms have to pay for it.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 26, 2022, 10:03:40 PM
Reminder they have yet to release the Warpaints for people that didn't buy the Pred pack.
For starters, it's not free, and it doesn't excuse the fact they lied about a feature they were going to add lol
Its more that they just forgot about it than lying. Seriously they barely know anything about their own game.
The Hunting Party DLC is Free. My statement is that they thought the masks would be free with the Predator Budle (different bundle) which it should be but wasn't included. Lets just get that straight. My point is the delivery of all of this aren't consistent whether intentional or not.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 27, 2022, 02:48:05 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Feb 26, 2022, 11:58:46 PM
so they didnt get something they thought they were going to get for free? Then it must upset them even more to know that the Predator Hunting party is free on epic games where other platforms have to pay for it.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Feb 26, 2022, 10:03:40 PM
Reminder they have yet to release the Warpaints for people that didn't buy the Pred pack.
For starters, it's not free, and it doesn't excuse the fact they lied about a feature they were going to add lol
Quote from: Samhain13 on Feb 27, 2022, 12:16:46 PM
Its more that they just forgot about it than lying. Seriously they barely know anything about their own game.
They know about it, have said so themselves on a Stream, I have no idea why they haven't put out a single update to do this as it should be really simple
After people calling them out of it yeah they became of aware of it, same as if people didnt kept bringing it up backwater they would probably forget the map even exists and dont add it back on the next update. They just take a lot of time even on the simple things and players need to remind them of things.
Like they were suppose to have added a cancel option for eating pigs a few months after the game was released, was on an old patch note thread, but they didnt. Over a year later someone noticed that and told Illfonic about and they finally patched it. Took over a year and having feedback from the players for them to notice that, cus of course since they dont play as Predator and only Care for Fireteam they would never find that out on their own.
I don't think it's a case of OC characters, I genuinely think it is a case of getting the guy out the door. The wristblade comes from Jungle Hunter, the gun from Cleopatra, the skin texture from the Super Predator, and the same lighting bugs from Wolf.
I do think Fox and Disney would have a say in where this guy fits. He didn't make it into the final film so he's usable beyond it, but given the whole appeal is the Emissary, why he's not on model makes no sense. And even still doesn't make sense within context. See the Emissary are supposed to be rogue Stargazer affiliated Predator. They're still gonna kill shit, but they're here as representatives, whereas here this guy is just styled with millitary gear. What exactly is he an Emissary of?
And further creates confusion for me as why this isn't Fugitive. Just reuse the Jungle Hunter body and head if we're gonna make a new armor model anyways, both gauntlets are identical and they planned on using the fourth film's mask anyways. Just reuse Wolf's gun rig and make a new gun. It's all the same work load but doesn't result in texture issues and is more on model.
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1520093352724676608?t=5BgGxndQTVWqPQfLBrkaIA&s=19
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2022, 05:46:01 PM
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1520093352724676608?t=5BgGxndQTVWqPQfLBrkaIA&s=19
They should have made a compilation video of all the bugs players encountered and Illfonic failed to fix over the last 2 years despite people making several reports with videos detailing how the bugs occurs on the forums.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 29, 2022, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2022, 05:46:01 PM
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1520093352724676608?t=5BgGxndQTVWqPQfLBrkaIA&s=19
They should have made a compilation video of all the bugs players encountered and Illfonic failed to fix over the last 2 years despite people making several reports with videos detailing how the bugs occurs on the forums.
Nag, I preferred the vid we got. ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2022, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 29, 2022, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2022, 05:46:01 PM
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1520093352724676608?t=5BgGxndQTVWqPQfLBrkaIA&s=19
They should have made a compilation video of all the bugs players encountered and Illfonic failed to fix over the last 2 years despite people making several reports with videos detailing how the bugs occurs on the forums.
Nag, I preferred the vid we got. ;D
Of course, lies tend to look better than truths.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 29, 2022, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2022, 05:46:01 PM
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1520093352724676608?t=5BgGxndQTVWqPQfLBrkaIA&s=19
They should have made a compilation video of all the bugs players encountered and Illfonic failed to fix over the last 2 years despite people making several reports with videos detailing how the bugs occurs on the forums.
True! I wanna love the game more but no way I'm going to pretend that its fine the way it is. You know, the community should make a comp with all those issues just for people to understand why there is displeasure in the community.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 30, 2022, 01:36:49 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2022, 10:22:23 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Apr 29, 2022, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Apr 29, 2022, 05:46:01 PM
https://twitter.com/IllFonic/status/1520093352724676608?t=5BgGxndQTVWqPQfLBrkaIA&s=19
They should have made a compilation video of all the bugs players encountered and Illfonic failed to fix over the last 2 years despite people making several reports with videos detailing how the bugs occurs on the forums.
Nag, I preferred the vid we got. ;D
Of course, lies tend to look better than truths.
Oh lordy. That video wasn't sharing lies.
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Maybe this week?
Quote from: RidgeTop on Jun 28, 2022, 01:16:10 AMhttps://i.imgur.com/Pt5LicR.png
Maybe this week?
I want to take this as a good sign that gameplay balance and additions is coming soon, I really do but the last two years really burned me out of almost all hope. I pray that at least Predator gets some buffs, I'm tired of being knocked into trees when I jump and end up just jumping up and down, being easily shot by sharpshooters. Having the ability to autoclimb trees when I accidently knock into branches makes for better Predator movement instead of being fancy target practice. That and new Predator gear and long range weaponry. Too many melee weapons and one wrist launcher for weapons and gear, very lacking in versatility of Predator gameplay.
Either be on the lookout for Tuesday or the last day of the month. Its usually either one or the other.
Has there been any hint (even the smallest) that the Feral Predator is coming to the game or there is any other update whatsoever regarding the new movie?
Nope, not even a little (unless you count that randomly datamined bear skin from a few months back to be a sign).
Given how secretive they were trying to be about Prey's existence, I doubt Illfonic even knew there was another movie in the works when they planned and budgeted their post-launch DLC. Personally I'd be very surprised if we got any more content beyond the four other datamined Predators that were found earlier this year, none of which are Feral.
What a missed opportunity. New players would be flocking to the game with the movie release, especially with the Feral there (and great marketing opportunities with the mask). Maybe they will just have a more active social media presence or something if they can even manage that.
It's dead.
Time for a new Predator game?
Open world Predator videogame yes please.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 19, 2022, 10:09:49 PMOpen world Predator videogame yes please.
Forever the dream Predator game. Though open universe please. Let me hunt multiple species on multiple planets.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jul 19, 2022, 09:58:40 PMTime for a new Predator game?
Given that Fireteam Elite came out less than a year ago compared to Hunting Grounds' two years+, and we've already had two new Alien games announced since then, I'm going to say "most definitely."
Alien is, however, the bigger and better of the 2 franchises, so it's no surprise it's getting more games, it has always been the case. Don't get your hopes up, I don't think Disney has much faith in Predator, maybe if Prey does well we will go into a new golden age of Predator content, but for now, I think poorly modeled skins are the best we'll get
I dont see another Predator game coming any time soon. And Illfonic not taking advantage of Prey to get something more out of this game shows how they really dont care at all about it anymore and are done with It. Also bad at their job.
Perhaps a new AvP game then.
Well, Prey release is here and a pretty big fail that the game is doing NOTHING with it.
A big plus if you ask me, I for one welcome the fact that the IP is free of this game and can move on to something better
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 04, 2022, 02:07:48 PMWell, Prey release is here and a pretty big fail that the game is doing NOTHING with it.
Well yeah but what would the game have done? Feral wasn't all that well known until marketing kicked up and then he's far too different from the existing Predators. And they probably didn't know if they could do him anyways given the lawsuit at the time.
At best we'd get a Predator inspired by him.
How about a discount for the game for the weekend?
They should just make it free at this point. Or a permanent 50%+ decrease in price.
Or just a free weekend to get some new players in
Quote from: Wweyland on Aug 04, 2022, 02:07:48 PMWell, Prey release is here and a pretty big fail that the game is doing NOTHING with it.
Yeah, I've been really disappointed with Hunting Grounds lately. Just feels dead now.
Zero activity on Illfonic's social media as well.
I've been playing this game since it's come out and I'm still garbage at it. But for some reason, I keep coming back! Haha
I watched the movie and now I kinda want them to add the Skull/Feral Predator to the game :o
Pls Disney give the IP to someone that wants to make something cool out of it not another MP only project pls
I agree.
Quote from: Orpheus2020 on Aug 05, 2022, 09:44:42 PMI watched the movie and now I kinda want them to add the Skull/Feral Predator to the game :o
I've been reading that illfonic have all but pretty much abandoned the game at this point. Don't know how true that is, but people are talking about it.
Yes it would be nice to see more predators added, and it would only help in marketing, but who knows, maybe they'll surprise us. Even more, hopefully we'll finally get a single player mode (which I doubt)
Whoever they may add, it wouldn't matter for me because I'm absolute trash at the game. I can never figure out how when I'm the predator, I get smoked in two seconds flat, but when I'm on fire team, I absolutely swamp the predator in bullets, but yet he never drops.....it's a mystery to me....but then again my dumbass keeps playing it. Whoever knew that a budget $40 title could get more play than any flagship title out there (with the exception of gtav hahaha)
So I've finally renewed my PS Plus subscription, am downloading the game back. VickiSandwich on PSN if anyone wants to add to play sometime.
oops just saw the proper thread for IDs. Ignore this post.
I recommend playing the game while you can, it got a boost from the movie release
Only boost was in the wait times for Predator, bunch of people back to the game to roleplay as Feral but they are forgetting the fireteam is the true Predator on this game.
So they are introducing the Feral Mask into the game, which is kind of minimal to do.
How do we know they are not working on a feral class? this is how they released stuff before, Mr. Black mask came before the actual class.
Because it's clearly on life support at this point.
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I would not expect anything further aside from bug fixes.
I'm still hoping we get the two or three other Predators that were datamined earlier this year, but that's the absolute "best case scenario" limit of my expectations.
To be honest I'm pleasantly surprised we're even getting Feral's mask as I figured there wouldn't any tie-ins to Prey whatsoever.
The Lone Wolf Mode was datamined as well, right? Would have liked that as their final outing.
Yeah but that was so long ago that most people figure it was something they tried and then abandoned. The new Predators were only datamined at the beginning of the year (or late last year, I forget which) along with Wolf and Emissary, both of which indeed came out. So there's a chance we might still see those others as the final major updates/DLC releases for the game.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 18, 2022, 10:44:19 AMBecause it's clearly on life support at this point.
Games beyond life support.illfonic doesn't care and have moved on. Hell on Preys release date they posted on their socials about arcadegeddon. With all the hype around Preythey could have used that to promote their game but they focused on their free lootbox cash grab.
Took a week for them to go a mask is coming.
Quote from: davewesker on Aug 21, 2022, 12:18:43 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 18, 2022, 10:44:19 AMBecause it's clearly on life support at this point.
Games beyond life support.illfonic doesn't care and have moved on. Hell on Preys release date they posted on their socials about arcadegeddon. With all the hype around Preythey could have used that to promote their game but they focused on their free lootbox cash grab.
Took a week for them to go a mask is coming.
You realize that Illfonic doesn't get any sort of inside information about Prey because they made a predator game, right? Like they probably had to MAKE that helmet AFTER release and get it ready to show off during that week.
Quote from: Leggs.stl on Aug 21, 2022, 03:43:27 AMQuote from: davewesker on Aug 21, 2022, 12:18:43 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 18, 2022, 10:44:19 AMBecause it's clearly on life support at this point.
Games beyond life support.illfonic doesn't care and have moved on. Hell on Preys release date they posted on their socials about arcadegeddon. With all the hype around Preythey could have used that to promote their game but they focused on their free lootbox cash grab.
Took a week for them to go a mask is coming.
You realize that Illfonic doesn't get any sort of inside information about Prey because they made a predator game, right? Like they probably had to MAKE that helmet AFTER release and get it ready to show off during that week.
That's rubbish. The ferel pred was revealed way before it came out. People release artwork for months.
The point is on the lead up to the films release they didn't post anything about Predator or Prey so clearly don't care about the franchise.
And if they didn't make the mask until AFTER the film was released like you say how bad are they that they only take a week to make new content but only release a mask and shaders every 2 months?
Quote from: davewesker on Aug 21, 2022, 05:25:17 PMQuote from: Leggs.stl on Aug 21, 2022, 03:43:27 AMQuote from: davewesker on Aug 21, 2022, 12:18:43 AMQuote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 18, 2022, 10:44:19 AMBecause it's clearly on life support at this point.
Games beyond life support.illfonic doesn't care and have moved on. Hell on Preys release date they posted on their socials about arcadegeddon. With all the hype around Preythey could have used that to promote their game but they focused on their free lootbox cash grab.
Took a week for them to go a mask is coming.
You realize that Illfonic doesn't get any sort of inside information about Prey because they made a predator game, right? Like they probably had to MAKE that helmet AFTER release and get it ready to show off during that week.
That's rubbish. The ferel pred was revealed way before it came out. People release artwork for months.
The point is on the lead up to the films release they didn't post anything about Predator or Prey so clearly don't care about the franchise.
And if they didn't make the mask until AFTER the film was released like you say how bad are they that they only take a week to make new content but only release a mask and shaders every 2 months?
Game Industry =/= Film Industry you can't look at one and try to find correlation in another. They can't just decide to put the new films Predator into their game, there needs to be all kinds of legalese/permissions behind something like this. Hunting Grounds was released in 2019, its been 3 years which is a lifetime in PvP multiplayer games, Illfonic is a gaming studio, not a predator studio, they HAVE to make new games to stay in business.
Can we FULL STOP talking shit about Illfonic and acting like they NEED to "fix" the game, when theres literally less than 500 people ever playing it at once?
There's not "literally less" than 500 players in this game, if you want to look at Steam charts, then your argument is purposely flawed to create a false narrative. Steam makes up less than 1/5 of the players I found in the last 5 days I've been playing the game, the majority of the playerbase are from EGS and Playstation, and they far outnumber the Steam players for this game, SPECIALLY the Playstation side of the community.
If we are to take the fact that Steam players make up around 1/10 of the active playerbase seeing how rare they are to find, that would mean that the game has at least 2k+ players at the moment.
Also, Illfonic has ALWAYS been neglectful when it comes to this game. Lack of proper weapon variety, lack of new gamemodes, lack of bug fixing and communication, this isn't a new feeling, it's been there since the first few months of release, also they have continuously failed to follow their promises, Captured is just JH, to the point he uses the exact same assets, which goes against their "no preorder content avaliable to other people" bs, and they also failed to deliver all the promised War Paints in time.
That simply isn't true though, if 2000 people were actively playing a 15minute round the game would be near the top of the most played games on Playstation. It simply isn't the case, the game only sold about 65k copies, and after 3 years every where that even rudimentarily shows a player count consistently shows less than 500 at one time.
Game development pipelines again are not 1:1 with what the audience perceives or whatever dataminers find in the game files, barring the fact that Illfonic is not a large scale game dev, with >120 employees its absolutely understandable that content gets cut. I understand that its frustrating to play a game that isnt perfectly optimized or balanced, but there just isnt the devpower to just "fix" the game. As far as them releasing the Captured predator, the biggest consistent complaint ive ever seen in the game is that the JH was a preorder release, so of course theyre going to find a work around and still honor the preorder.
Look I love this game, for what it is, a small arcade style PvP game. But its so dreadful to keep seeing nothing but negative comments about this game from fans who refuse to see the forest for the trees.
Now you are just bullshitting lol, Steam players are rare, there are 250ish of them playing the game rn. There is no way in hell they make up 50% of this game's active playerbase.
Here is my source btw
https://steamdb.info/app/1556200/graphs/
The game has consistently been having 250 active players at once for the last few days, keep in mind these are the players you see the least in game, I've seen one exactly once after player 15 matches the other day.
it would appear there are more Steam players than PS4 players. Regardless, 354 players does not mean that its financially feasible to allocate more resources to the game, especially when the other titles they own are doing rather well by comparison. Not to mention that they're working on another asymmetrical multiplayer IP game, I fail to see the point you are trying to make about hanging on the player count, if it was substantial enough changes would have been made a long time ago. HG.jpg
https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/10722-predator-hunting-grounds
EDIT: Make no mistake, I DO wish this game was better, and i agree Hunting Grounds is in a rather disappointing state right now, but its not fair to willfully ignore a companies desire to pay their employees by focusing on other games.
Doesn't that website only count people that log into it? Because there is no way there's only 104 players on that platform. You will find different people from PSN over the course of multiple matches, rarely finding the same people
Respectfully disagre. PHG will be their biggest game. If I was on charge of their social media in the lead up to Preys release I'd be advertising the game with captions such as Track down your PREY in the Jungle in PHG etc. Day of release the posted about arcadegeddon.
To this day we still talk shit about the new born, AvP2, Aliens Colonial Marines. Why does Illfonic and their complete mishandling of this game get a pass?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 21, 2022, 10:55:21 PMDoesn't that website only count people that log into it? Because there is no way there's only 104 players on that platform. You will find different people from PSN over the course of multiple matches, rarely finding the same people
That's how many were playing at that time.
Got to remember on PC it was on Epic for a year before released on steam. So assume a large amount of the playerbase is on epic on pc
Nah it wouldn't surpass their Friday game
Tbh forgot about Friday. OK second biggest game lol
Edit.
Did I like the game. Yes loved it. The friends I made are awesome. Am I bitter and angry now about it? Hell yes. The one year anniversary showed illfonics true colours as a greedy company who's focus was squeezing as much money from the fans of a franchise that hadn't had many gaming outings and that's what's made me angry when in the lead up to release they were talking about how they are fans
Quote from: davewesker on Aug 21, 2022, 11:17:02 PMRespectfully disagre. PHG will be their biggest game. If I was on charge of their social media in the lead up to Preys release I'd be advertising the game with captions such as Track down your PREY in the Jungle in PHG etc. Day of release the posted about arcadegeddon.
To this day we still talk shit about the new born, AvP2, Aliens Colonial Marines. Why does Illfonic and their complete mishandling of this game get a pass?
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 21, 2022, 10:55:21 PMDoesn't that website only count people that log into it? Because there is no way there's only 104 players on that platform. You will find different people from PSN over the course of multiple matches, rarely finding the same people
That's how many were playing at that time.
Got to remember on PC it was on Epic for a year before released on steam. So assume a large amount of the playerbase is on epic on pc
As I said before, they probably COULD'T
LEGALLY use the new film to Advert a game released 3 years ago. Yes they HAD the rights to the previous predator films, were probably given a Lore Bible on the PREVIOUSLY released films and told THATS where they can build assets from. I'm not saying to give Illfonic a "pass" but I really do feel that fans of the game should seriously re-evaluate their expectations of this game and what Illfonic is able to accomplish with such a small staff. It was never supposed to be a HUGE game, its barely above a quickplay arcade game.
Small Studios make Small Games.
and personally I find it unhealthy to focus on the lowest points of any franchises for many many years. Let it go, your negativity isn't going to magically make Pitchford, the Strauses, or even Jeunet care or change anything about the media they released.
Sorry but have to disagree. They could have even just advertised their game due to the increase in intrest with the franchise around Preys release but didn't. They took our money to make Arcadegeddon, a failure of a game.
Small studios make small games is no excuse. How come they were able to get Arnold back if its a small game? At the time there was 5 films, numerous comics and book characters They could use and they gave us a nfl player? The 1 year anniversary was delayed a day so the one year exclusive deal was up with epic and what they release a £20 dlc bundle where only new thing was early access to a mask. Even fortnite won't let you buy cosmetics more than once. It's a scummy company and needs to be called out on.
One final "hurrah" for the game could be an Ultimate Edition that contains all the DLC and is reasonably priced (not 60+).
Incoming new DLC soon:
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God damnit that looks really dope. Not sure how it'll play but that design f**kin rules.
Hold on, this is the only OC with a new head, what just happened? None of the others are like this. Alpha being an exception due to its association with the toy but as another pointed out even the teeth are new. The Hell's going on here?
His arm his Predator wife?
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 23, 2022, 06:08:18 PMIncoming new DLC soon:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603438127314632704/1011672614588125194/unknown.png
Ok that's...pretty goddamn badass. Need an action figure of this ASAP.
Kenner vibes are strong with this one
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 23, 2022, 06:55:22 PMHis arm his Predator wife?
Aha someone got the reference.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 23, 2022, 06:55:22 PMHis arm his Predator wife?
Depends how....Rad he is.
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But damn, this Pred actually looks really cool! :o Obviously this is the "Cyborg" that was datamined a while back. Surprised we're not getting Celtic, but I've always loved me some Kenner, so anything that even remotely resembles them is good in my book! ;D
I'm still riding high on Prey hype, so I'm totally going to make another financial mistake when this guy comes out!
What madness is this???!!! That looks awesome! Definitely getting the Kenner vibes (in a good way). It also reminds me of some specific fanart which I need to find again.
Terminator eye is an overkill IMHO
Just watched The Terminator the other night for the first time in years and that's all I'm able to see here. Skynet has reached out into outer space!!
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Make it happen, Dibneh!
I actually hope the terminator eye is relevant. If we have a "cybernetic" mask we wouldn't have to wear one.
So technically there's two masks. A cybernetic mask and a Bionic Predator mask. It'd also explain why he's the only one who has an exposed face. The image could be suggesting we can go "unmasked" now. The laser might be coming from the eye like Lasershot.
Bionic Predator is currently live on PSN.
Note as of posting he's available for purchase but no patch has dropped.
EDIT - never mind
Yeah looks like the update is rolling out imminently.
The Predator mandibles don't move or even display properly with Feral's mask.
A couple things to note
- Bone mask
Despite the preview it seems to operate how was expected. The mandibles of Falconer, Mr.Black, and Wolf will curl into the face. This leads to an amusing sight where it looks like the image of that trex "furrafic farc" where the jaw is gone or put up into the skull like on a puppet.
- dreadlocks
They're here this time! Though despite the preview image the Emisssry dreads are STILL not featured in Hunting Grounds.
- Bionic
The model is gorgeous. He actually has a unique head unlike the other OC Predator. Where the Hell was this on the past releases Illfonic? The mask kind of reminds me from that one mask from (I think) AVP:seed.
Mottle like Emissary doesn't work. However near as I can tell no texture is bugging out. Seriously, someone really gave a shit about this model and I respect that.
His stats are near max across the board
He has a new roar! It's the female one but I dig it.
One touch I kind of like is that the wrist blade is a telescoping knife. Like it folds out of itself and then back into the arm. Good shit.
I wish there was more here but someone should be proud of the work they put into the cyborg.
Just saw the patch notes. How times have changed. I remember a time patch notes actually included bug fixes and patches, not buy our random shit.
Assuming the releases keep up the way they're doing it'll definitely roll over into the games next anniversary. If they keep going they'll probably have Feral on the next batch.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 23, 2022, 09:53:05 PMAssuming the releases keep up the way they're doing it'll definitely roll over into the games next anniversary. If they keep going they'll probably have Feral on the next batch.
What do you mean? They did Jack for the second year anniversary just got community members to make a video. Game will be completely dead by 3rd.
And what you mean by keep up with releases? 3 months and 1 random new pred and no bug fixes, balances.
Quote from: davewesker on Aug 23, 2022, 10:03:39 PMQuote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 23, 2022, 09:53:05 PMAssuming the releases keep up the way they're doing it'll definitely roll over into the games next anniversary. If they keep going they'll probably have Feral on the next batch.
What do you mean? They did Jack for the second year anniversary just got community members to make a video. Game will be completely dead by 3rd.
And what you mean by keep up with releases? 3 months and 1 random new pred and no bug fixes, balances.
Not that they'd do anything special for the anniversary, I meant that the next batch of DLC by then might have Feral on said list. According to some tests ran by people over on the Illfonic forums things have been adjusted it just wasn't listed. Not many changes so far but they did make some changes which isn't uncommon for them. They really should put it in the patch notes but it's been a known thing they leave that out.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Aug 23, 2022, 07:32:55 PMIt also reminds me of some specific fanart which I need to find again.
Shai Daniel is the guy I was thinking of!
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https://www.artstation.com/shaidaniel
So discount Borg Pred and Feral Mask that doesn't look like feral mask, incredible.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 24, 2022, 10:10:53 AMSo discount Borg Pred and Feral Mask that doesn't look like feral mask, incredible.
Dig Bionic myself.
And the Feral mask looks pretty spot on to me, just the mandibles are not resting where they were purported to in the marketing image.
Yeahhh a paid class with nothing new in it and a mask that doesn't work as advertised, I'm sorry but this is just another nothing update, two cosmetic pieces and literally nothing else.
Also Ferals mask looks terrible on anything thar isn't JH or the base 3 classes
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Feral's mask definitely gives everyone a bit of a case of "Deac cheek" when its equipped, unfortunately. Which I don't mind as much as the mandibles not being visible at all when it's on. It's cool that they added it, but that does take a little bit of the excitement out of it for sure.
As for Bionic, I really like him! They really stepped it up a notch with this model like Superior Ironman said. Feels like the complete opposite reaction to when Wolf came out and had all those issues with his model.
And he seems like a good, well-rounded class to play as too. Definitely a really cool Predator.
Once again, if you buy the DLC on Epic Games Store, it still appears as locked. Illfonic continues to never learn from their mistakes and be the most incompetent potato developers ever.
I will say that aside from the new Predator, it's also again disappointing that no new long range Predator weapons or balance changes are not touched. People can say things about not expecting much from this development team but come one, some semblance of bare new gameplay changes is somehow too much to ask? I just don't buy the whole "small studio" thing anymore, especially that they are planning to work on another game after Arcadegeddon and Ghostbusters when they haven't even done some polishing for the games they got now.
They're just done with the game is all. They've been done with it since last year. All they likely have is a very small team of a few people keeping the lights on and releasing the last few Predator characters they've got left. The lion's share of the studio is working on Ghostbusters now, and have been for a while.
Unless there are any massive game-breaking bugs that crop up in the future, there won't be any more bug fixes, balance changes, new weapons, maps, game modes or anything substantial beyond these new Predators.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 24, 2022, 01:34:34 PMOnce again, if you buy the DLC on Epic Games Store, it still appears as locked. Illfonic continues to never learn from their mistakes and be the most incompetent potato developers ever.
same here
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 23, 2022, 06:08:18 PMIncoming new DLC soon:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/603438127314632704/1011672614588125194/unknown.png
This needs a NECA figure.
Quote from: Kailem on Aug 24, 2022, 03:07:47 PMThey're just done with the game is all. They've been done with it since last year. All they likely have is a very small team of a few people keeping the lights on and releasing the last few Predator characters they've got left. The lion's share of the studio is working on Ghostbusters now, and have been for a while.
Unless there are any massive game-breaking bugs that crop up in the future, there won't be any more bug fixes, balance changes, new weapons, maps, game modes or anything substantial beyond these new Predators.
That's such a shame. This game has so so much potential but comes across they can't be bothered to do anything unless it's paid dlc skins. So so much that could have been added but essentially all we got was paid for mods using already established models.
I will never buy the whole "we don't know how to make predour work in a city" bs
They were given a massive box of lego to play with but couldn't be bothered after they made a few things to put any effort into other stuff.
Predkour in a city is more an issue than you'd think given that you'd need foliage to obscure non-cloaked players, ledges that communicate to the player where to go, new animations regarding how the Predator is scrambling up these surfaces and tells for the player that the Predator did and where it's going. And otherwise health pickups would need to be new (unless you know of a city that has wild boar running around), where the player is mudding up, require new level geometry and textures, all on top of the work needed for level design.
They did try Clash. Nobody liked that. Because TTK in this game is based around fighting Predator. It does not mesh with fighting other players like in a COD match.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 26, 2022, 12:13:21 AMPredkour in a city is more an issue than you'd think given that you'd need foliage to obscure non-cloaked players, ledges that communicate to the player where to go, new animations regarding how the Predator is scrambling up these surfaces and tells for the player that the Predator did and where it's going. And otherwise health pickups would need to be new (unless you know of a city that has wild boar running around), where the player is mudding up, require new level geometry and textures, all on top of the work needed for level design.
They did try Clash. Nobody liked that. Because TTK in this game is based around fighting Predator. It does not mesh with fighting other players like in a COD match.
Respectfully disagre. The predkour could easily be done with fire escapes, ledges on sides of buildings etc. Food source is could be done with dumpsters and take away food dumped etc. Admittedly yes would require a bit of work but that's what I find the most frustrating thing about illfonic the lazyness and refusal do do anything that requires a little effort.
You don't want to confuse the player, it's why predkour is only on tree limbs. You don't want to make the player think they can jump somewhere they really can't. And it'd require new animations to make that happen which is money a soon to be an almost three year old game doesn't have. And frankly outside of being ready for launch, they otherwise weren't going to do it anyways as the budget they had was for the jungle. The game is based on the first film and they simply weren't going to do anything beyond that scope. It's why we don't even have the game preserve because the scope of Hunting Grounds was fitting into the style of the first film.
Doing something that requires a bit of effort is having Wolf be on model, releasing the shuriken, or fixing texture problems. But a new map with missions, geometry, textures, alternate health pickups, it's all something you'd at best get out of an expansion pack. That could never be done as free DLC.
Regarding the city map, I always thought it would make sense to start with a semi-city map, like a favela or something.
Bionic looks pretty good, I hope this isn't the last of the DLC and I'm still betting on some kind of Ultimate Edition in the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVBsBPPBYICan't recall if this is the same footage from before.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 08, 2022, 12:05:27 PMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVBsBPPBYI
Can't recall if this is the same footage from before.
Someone really reuploaded that old footage of an alternative tutorial mode and wrote "Leaked Singleplayer" on the title for some youtube clickbait attempt huh
https://twitter.com/illfonic/status/1593338626498523136?s=46&t=JDSYCbqUzl72Zb5fTbPlMA
I'll check it out when I get home but I hope there's more content than that. I haven't seen the forums yet so I have no idea if that's it.
Seems like it may just be the two Predator with the way the blog post was worded.
According to some chatter on the forums there seems to be a stealth patch as well. Fixed a few bugs but I don't know why they wouldn't post that. Unfortunately it seems there's also a cloaking bug again. Which given how often this happens it's weird you wouldn't be looking for this.
I just struggle to be too excited at this point. :-\
just two skins to scam some people out of their money with the promise of it being new content
Last Predator looks like it's going to be Celtic. Leaks did have Noland in the description but Noland appears via a helmet. Tank seems to have been scrapped with only the helmet and dreadlocks available.
So it's looking pretty likely Celtic is it. Without any future leaks I'm not sure if they're going to support the game any further since it seems they're speedrunning the end of the content cycle. I almost feel like we should warn the Ghostbuster people cause this is what they're in for.
It's a shame because I honestly love the art direction on these two. Especially pirate as she has a new head and the art direction on the armor is while silly still pretty fun. But she and Amazon have only the one specialization and near as I can tell play identically. I'm not sure why they're forcing it out the door either other than to get the content cycle over and done with. It feels like such a waste as Predator A.I or even just using them in custom games offline would go far longer to extending shelf life of the game. Why buy all of these if you can't use them when the servers inevitably go offline?
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Nov 17, 2022, 11:17:48 PMAccording to some chatter on the forums there seems to be a stealth patch as well. Fixed a few bugs but I don't know why they wouldn't post that. Unfortunately it seems there's also a cloaking bug again. Which given how often this happens it's weird you wouldn't be looking for this.
The stealth patch was nerfing the Bionic Predator
Do they even have servers? I thought this was Peer to Peer? Shouldn't that be protected then against this phenomena of server shutdown?
Oh, and thanks to Samhain13's videos for reveling the truth. They nerfed Bionic in the stealth patch with no patch notes. I used to respect the devs before I knew what they were doing. They have been regularly releasing new predators with OP stats, that get nerfed once a new pred dlc comes which is intentionally OP again until the cycle repeats. So they change the pred you bought. And you bought it for the good stats, and now they're gone, and the next pred has OP stats on purpose. That's disgusting from the devs. It's not enough that you're making unbalanced, pay to win Pred dlc characters, you have the nerve to nerf them later so that we'd buy the new pay to win pred? Awful...
The new Pirate has infinite energy when clocked and thermal, which Bionic used to have until this new release. Now Amazon has the stamina of Scout, health of berserker, but perk points of Scout making her OP. But you can't get them cause of how they play, their stats, cause the devs will nerf the preds when the next one arrives if this trend is anything to go by. (Previously happened to City Hunter and Cleopatra, again thanks to Samhain13 for getting this out in the open)
Quote from: Still Collating... on Nov 18, 2022, 09:25:23 PMDo they even have servers? I thought this was Peer to Peer? Shouldn't that be protected then against this phenomena of server shutdown?
Oh, and thanks to Samhain13's videos for reveling the truth. They nerfed Bionic in the stealth patch with no patch notes. I used to respect the devs before I knew what they were doing. They have been regularly releasing new predators with OP stats, that get nerfed once a new pred dlc comes which is intentionally OP again until the cycle repeats. So they change the pred you bought. And you bought it for the good stats, and now they're gone, and the next pred has OP stats on purpose. That's disgusting from the devs. It's not enough that you're making unbalanced, pay to win Pred dlc characters, you have the nerve to nerf them later so that we'd buy the new pay to win pred? Awful...
The new Pirate has infinite energy when clocked and thermal, which Bionic used to have until this new release. Now Amazon has the stamina of Scout, health of berserker, but perk points of Scout making her OP. But you can't get them cause of how they play, their stats, cause the devs will nerf the preds when the next one arrives if this trend is anything to go by. (Previously happened to City Hunter and Cleopatra, again thanks to Samhain13 for getting this out in the open)
No problem. Not a surprise, like you said happened before, and might happen again with Pirate/Amazon when I guess Celtic or Tank come next. But they will never nerf OP DLC FT classes like Dante :laugh:
To be honest, the classes have good stats but FT is still so OP that it isn't really enough to compete.
Random ass drop happened tonight. Can't see it yet but apparently Scar's mask is in the game now. A few fixes and as well but god forbid somebody post patch notes. Cause if they're here I haven't seen them.
Edit - so there is a couple of bullet points in the patch notes. Outside the specializations it does not state anything was changed even though they did. 4 new masks for those who are interested (Scar bizarrely is Sempi and is 25,000).
Yep, they fixed the specs on the new preds and nerfed Pirate energy + 4 new masks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoFs44VUoLI
So, looking back through the datamine thread and seeing these new masks were discovered quite a while ago, it looks like the only one left that's not in there yet is Tracker's mask, right?
Quote from: Kailem on Nov 23, 2022, 05:49:52 PMSo, looking back through the datamine thread and seeing these new masks were discovered quite a while ago, it looks like the only one left that's not in there yet is Tracker's mask, right?
I think so.
Kind of weird with Celtic coming down the line. His helmet is in-game and you can recreate the scar. The only AVP (barring Requiem's Bone Grill) predators to not have an in-game helmet now is the Elder and the flashback helmets. That is of course assuming they're not silly about it and have a post-Grid helmet for the class.
Mr.Black comes to mind about helmets unlocking early, but Celtic will essentially stand on his own for his pack.
Nothing interesting in this game. The tasks are boring, entering a lot of skins does not save. ;D
The plot is broken and as it was called the canon :-X
Quote from: cmyk4you on Dec 12, 2022, 06:46:51 AMNothing interesting in this game. The tasks are boring, entering a lot of skins does not save. ;D
The plot is broken and as it was called the canon :-X
You came here from the Illfonic forums didn't you?
Leak archive indicates Tank is a real Predator with an outfit similar to Tracker. Looks like new dreads along with it which is strange given Tank has Exile.
Scar's head is also in the files. Why it wasn't released with Scar I'll never know. You'd honestly think somebody would've checked that before shipping.
Can we play the game without internet connection? No bots there?
Not sure about the internet connection but there are bots that you can set. No bot Predator though, which is a shame.
So you dont need to wait for other players to join the game. I thought that you need to create a server and than wait for other players to join it.
Quote from: David on Mar 19, 2023, 09:39:10 AMSo you dont need to wait for other players to join the game. I thought that you need to create a server and than wait for other players to join it.
No you can do private matches with bot Fireteam players. Keep in mind it's not meant to be how the game was intended to be played. Bots are more to keep a match moving in the event a player drops out but they can be used for solo play.
It's not great but on occasion I do challenge runs with them hiking up the damage they do among other modifiers.
And if you want to play as a human, there is no "Predator bot" option?
Quote from: David on Mar 19, 2023, 05:12:01 PMAnd if you want to play as a human, there is no "Predator bot" option?
No Predator bot. We've asked and I'd personally take a less refined approach if it meant enabling one to fight Predator offline.
Bad news then.
A Predator bot would probably take too much of their precious resources.
I don't think there has ever been a good Predator AI, all the AvP games were heavily scripted.
AvP Classic wasn't, but there the Predator just stood on the ground while either sniping you or stabbing with the spear.
It might be cheaper to just release skins.
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What even is that, a dwarven Irish Predator?
Tank Predator, something something bad elite lore
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 09, 2023, 08:32:45 PMWhat even is that, a dwarven Irish Predator?
The explanation was that they're guys who are used in invasions. The guys who storm the beach and take over. Guys who are no better armed than anyone else they just have a higher pain threshold and wear an oversized helmet.
No nanotechnology, no genetic tampering to create monsters, no cyborgs with advanced limbs, they're the same kind of Predator as all the others but they can get punched a little harder.
Personally speaking I think they should've gone weirder with it. This is the species that brings a nuke with them on a hunting trip. The military should be way more extra. Probably barely recognizable as a Predator. Think the Halo brutes or the armors from the cover of that one AVP book. Maybe not even actual platings but shield generators turning them into high tech gladiators. Cause yeah it's consistent, but the appearance feels wrong for the concept. Like even Fugitive made more sense to draw from given how out of the ordinary his equipment looked.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 09, 2023, 08:32:45 PMWhat even is that, a dwarven Irish Predator?
Actually that might fit!
But yeah as others have said, it's the "Tank Predator" that was datamined a while ago and some expected to be the last piece of content released for the game. So far though there's been no sign of it, and we've now officially "broken" Illfonic's schedule for DLC drops. So it seems unlikely it'll ever fully see the light of day (though the mask and dreads are already in the game).
Rest in Peace
Sad this will be unplayable someday.
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 10, 2023, 06:12:18 PMRest in Peace
Sad this will be unplayable someday.
It won't be unplayable, but once the license is lost all of the DLC will likely be delisted.
There is still a physical disk though for offline play.
I wouldn't call loading into a custom match with the poorly made bots or the tutorial of playable tho
The game isn't playable with bots at all. Sure they have aimbot and sometimes does work, but thats 25% chance of doing so. Forget about any single player action, its not coming.
So this is it then? No more updates?
Probably not
Quote from: Wweyland on May 24, 2023, 10:18:58 PMSo this is it then? No more updates?
No, I think its safe to say that the game is unofficially "officially" dropped. Usually we get an update every month or two but now it's just nothing. Not even a simple Tank Predator DLC update. A shame that we just can't get some consistent Predator games, meanwhile Aliens got Dark Decent coming up after the release of Fireteam Elite.
Well...something tells me there was maybe something ( ;) ) but the lawsuit really f**ked up more than we'll ever truly know.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 26, 2023, 07:40:01 AMWell...something tells me there was maybe something ( ;) ) but the lawsuit really f**ked up more than we'll ever truly know.
I know Illfonic went on record that they did have plans and ideas for the game like improved Predkour and we did have those leaks like snow map, Falconer's drone, Tank Predator DLC, ect but part of the reason was the lawsuit really did mess up their plans. Apparently they can't even do small balance changes without approval from the top brass, which is asinining.
Will Illfonic ever go back and fight for making the game better? I have no idea. I would love to see the game improve but from what I seen, having a TBA game in development, Ghostbusters, and Arcadegeddon being worked on, I don't think its possible anytime soon. IF what the creative director on PHG said to be taken, seems like this is it.
https://forum.predator.illfonic.com/t/creative-director-on-phg-shrugs/30682
I was hinting at non-Hunting Grounds stuff btw.
I think Ilfonic is just done with the game now. And I'm sad about it. It just never hit its real potential.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2023, 09:34:12 AMI was hinting at non-Hunting Grounds stuff btw.
I think Ilfonic is just done with the game now. And I'm sad about it. It just never hit its real potential.
Honestly, I'm also just ready for a new Predator game. Give me a single player 3rd Person a la Concrete Jungle. What will it be, I have no idea but people are primed for Predator content and so are we. If Aliens can have new games coming out, Predator has no excuse either. Just make it a strong one, don't have to be AAA, but don't slack on it, ya know?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on May 30, 2023, 09:34:12 AMI was hinting at non-Hunting Grounds stuff btw.
I think Ilfonic is just done with the game now. And I'm sad about it. It just never hit its real potential.
It never did did it. I wonder how much was because of Illfonic or how much their hands were tied. I noticed that they would release new preds that seemed to tie in with big game releases i.e Viking Pred with Assassins Creed, samuari when Ghosts of T was coming out and Sony published it.
Am I the only guy that found this game amazing?
(I did not buy the lame DLC characters, Ok some of them, but only for parts)
Quote from: bobby brown on Jun 12, 2023, 06:18:15 PMAm I the only guy that found this game amazing?
(I did not buy the lame DLC characters, Ok some of them, but only for parts)
It sort of was at first until Illfonic made little effort in making actual gameplay changes or updates. Sure we got new maps, modes, and bug fixes but no real new gamemplay mechanics or additional Predator gear, long range weapons, Fireteam gear, ect. Bare minimum changes when compared to other games that have healthy and hearty gameplay changes and quality of life updates.
Got bored last night and thought f it so dl the game and played a few matches. Apart from some weird audio glitches i had dare i say it fun playing. Seems like not playing for over a year is what ya meed to do to enjoy the game lol
I genuinely had a lot of fun playing Hunting Grounds. I think the gameplay loop was just perfect for Predator and it worked so damn well. It's just a shame my initial fear for it was realized and it didn't get enough content. It took a year for the game to have the kind of content I thought it should have had at launch, and it's now just disappeared into the ether.
As Hicks said. It should've launched with all of this content. Now it's varied enough. The game even so still has so much wasted potential, but I do enjoy it a lot more than Aliens Fireteam Elite personally for the fun versus factor alone.
Hunting Grounds needed more game modes. Whatever happened to MP games and having barely any varied game modes?
People took very poorly to Clash and the devs likely didn't want to do that again.
The funny thing about that is that it showed how the game can work perfectly fine and stable with 8 players. And the community has been going on and on that they would want a mode where there's like 8 to 12 fireteam members and 2 to 3 predators. Like a big hunt from Predators. Some of the maps are huge, that could definitely work. Don't know why they didn't try that when people said they wanted something like that.
Again, Clash.
They also didn't have bots until later in the game's life so it requires double the players it'd otherwise take for your standard Hunt session and we still hadn't got Predator bots. It also means adjusting the missions because these are designed for 4 people, not 8.
Clash really was a pointless update. The main game did a great job of recreating that "Predator" experience in a multiplayer form, but Clash is just straight-up one of those "only included to pad out the back of the box"-type modes. The kind of thing everyone just played once, said "meh", then went back to Hunt.
A mode where you could team up with one or two people on the Predator side though, that would have been great. I'm not entirely sure how they could have gone about it, and given how much people bitched (and probably still do) about the balancing in the regular game I'm not sure how they would have been able to handle that aspect of it. But on paper that was certainly the mode I think people wanted the most.
It's funny that people asked for a 12v3 or 8vs2 Fireteam vs Predator mode for the longest time, but instead we got a -50 discount of COD without the more robust and functional PVP controls from the series with a Predator thrown in. If anything it showed the weakness of the gameplay the moment they threw in clash. Very limited 4v4 players in a huge map with the gameplay clearly showing that the system is always centered around human vs Predator and not human vs human like most of the Perks and Specializations are useless in Clash.
Shame really, all of this just going to be another memory now.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Jun 17, 2023, 03:18:06 AMShame really, all of this just going to be another memory now.
I do hate how much I use that word when it comes to talking about Hunting Grounds. It makes me cringe a little to see others use it too. Such a waste.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 14, 2023, 07:54:26 AMI genuinely had a lot of fun playing Hunting Grounds. I think the gameplay loop was just perfect for Predator and it worked so damn well. It's just a shame my initial fear for it was realized and it didn't get enough content. It took a year for the game to have the kind of content I thought it should have had at launch, and it's now just disappeared into the ether.
Oh totally i mean i do get what they can have ready for launch vs what's in the game now. Its just a shame they havent stuck with it and constantly expanded.
Being only on pc and ps probally hurt its aswell concidering these game thrive on a massive playerbase but on the flip side i do wonder how much involvement sony had
I'm still itching to complete the "Predkour Master" achievement before the game completely closes down.
We know they answered to Sony and Fox (Searchlight). If Sony is no longer their publisher then they probably lost the entity they have to go through for approvals.
If not that then contracts probably had been affected by the Thomas brothers lawsuit. They had stuff that'd been given the green-light but they could only release what was then on the docket and maybe a Prey promotion had they the time. This might explain the bundles of Predators where it was more efficient to release a few at once rather than space it out because they had to wrap up at a specific time.
If it wasn't affected by that, then contracts probably meant they couldn't tell anyone they'd been winding down content. We know they couldn't say what was in any update until it launched and one of their community people did get fired over that. So with development of Spirits unleashed going on they left a skeleton crew (which we know they had) to wrap up what content was left.
Personally speaking I think it's a mixture of the three options. The game had been going a few years which is normal for a content cycle. The lawsuit probably affected release dates and while Prey probably wasn't on the to-do list it wasn't hard to whip up a mask to promote the movie. Getting away from Sony meant they only had so much content to release before the game couldn't be supported. And sue to contracts nobody could talk about it either. That's I.P work for you.
It was fun while it lasted, time to move on with a new game. Anyone try Predator VR on Steam?
Has it actually been released on Steam?
I thought that project died?
It made it into some physicals arcades. I know
@RidgeTop had found one.
It's for commercial usage only. Which is kind of bizarre. You'd think this would've made its way to some VR set eventually.
I'm half an hour from my nearest arcade and I doubt I'll ever play that. It's entirely dependent on them getting it.
Commercial usage? Yeah that's not going anywhere then :laugh: There is a VR section in my local mall but barely do people drop by to check it out, I'm just betting on how long this would last before that too shuts down. They should drop it on Steam like other VR games but why don't they? I have no idea. It's so weird how Predator based games are being dumped on the corner, meanwhile Aliens got Isolation, Fireteam Elite, and now Dark Decent popping about. Is it really that hard to make a good Predator game?
It shouldn't be, all the elements for multiple games and genres are there. For god's sake, the Predator literally goes on an intergalactic GAME hunt, to have fun, you know like a game of cat and mouse, a game... :P :laugh:
Lot of material and potential for singleplayer and multiplayer games. I hope Prey gets a sequel (doesn't have to be any direct connections at all, just let Dan direct) and that it succeeds. After another good movie maybe the game industry will start taking the potential seriously.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 13, 2023, 07:00:49 PMCommercial usage? Yeah that's not going anywhere then :laugh: There is a VR section in my local mall but barely do people drop by to check it out, I'm just betting on how long this would last before that too shuts down. They should drop it on Steam like other VR games but why don't they? I have no idea. It's so weird how Predator based games are being dumped on the corner, meanwhile Aliens got Isolation, Fireteam Elite, and now Dark Decent popping about. Is it really that hard to make a good Predator game?
I mean Alien franchise always had more things going on, from novels, comics to games. I think that game developers just don't get the potential of the Predator in gaming.
In PHG Illfonic maganement was not only bad but dumb, they could have made so much more money on this game than what they did on their other titles which are dead as hell despite being released much later than PHG they have a much smaller playerbase. Even at their cash and grab dlcs they waited until most players left the game to release Predators like Wolf, Celtic, Scar. They even suck at scamming people with useless content that doesnt improve or helps fixing the game problems people complained about for 3 years.
Predator franchise just happens to be unlucky to get incompetent people in charge that waste potential, from games to movies. And then the producers get the impression that the franchise isnt worthy investing while its just fault of the ones in charge.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 15, 2023, 02:16:00 PMI mean Alien franchise always had more things going on, from novels, comics to games. I think that game developers just don't get the potential of the Predator in gaming.
Predator always had comics and novels going on. The quality can be argued but they at least had something interesting going on in those areas. It's always the games where they suffer the most. Concrete Jungle and Hunting Grounds where it always fails flat on their faces, despite having a great idea.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 15, 2023, 02:16:00 PMIn PHG Illfonic maganement was not only bad but dumb, they could have made so much more money on this game than what they did on their other titles which are dead as hell despite being released much later than PHG they have a much smaller playerbase. Even at their cash and grab dlcs they waited until most players left the game to release Predators like Wolf, Celtic, Scar. They even suck at scamming people with useless content that doesnt improve or helps fixing the game problems people complained about for 3 years.
It's even worse when they don't bother much with balance, thinking its ok and we all know that the balance was always favored to Fireteam because many Fireteam players can't think straight so they pump up the power to make up for it. I've seen how the devs play the game, if that's not an indicator of how ass balance was going to be for the game, I don't know what is.
The thing is too, is that it's also partly with some kind of red tape contract reason to why they couldn't even do some improvements. I recall how one of the devs said somewhere that they wanted to revamp the Predkour system for better flow but something internal prevented them to do it. Seems like no matter the job you got, if upper management is incompetent as hell and can't let you do shit, then it's a living hell on itself.
Oh but also let's not forget that the quality of the movie Predators is also ass compared to the OG Predators released earlier. Like how did they mess up that? I seen the freelancer's work and his Wolf design he did for fun is so much better than the "official" one so I have no idea what Illfonic done to make the dude's more recent design look like ass burger.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Aug 15, 2023, 02:16:00 PMPredator franchise just happens to be unlucky to get incompetent people in charge that waste potential, from games to movies. And then the producers get the impression that the franchise isnt worthy investing while its just fault of the ones in charge.
I just hope they don't fumble with the success Prey brought into the Predator series. An actual dub over the Alien series where they released two ass films straight up and Prey was that mouth wash that threw 2018 down the drain. Just tell the folks who did the Batman Arkham games to do that but Predator and money will flow. The story of course needs to be hashed out but least the gameplay alone is not a hard concept to come up with.
If Suicide Squad is anything to go buy I don't trust Rocksteady. I trust Insomniac way more with that.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 18, 2023, 08:34:56 PMIf Suicide Squad is anything to go buy I don't trust Rocksteady. I trust Insomniac way more with that.
I haven't seen much from Suicide Squad, and it would be a shame if it came out as trash. I'm coming off Arkham Knight and the gameplay there is very best of all the series.
I would love a Souls-like Predator Game
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 19, 2023, 04:24:00 PMI would love a Souls-like Predator Game
That sounds neat. I haven't played any Souls games before but from what I hear, its has a strong fun and challenging gameplay mechanic. Especially if you throw in the agility that PCJ had, it would make for strong Predator movement than just dodge rolling.
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Aug 19, 2023, 04:44:57 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 19, 2023, 04:24:00 PMI would love a Souls-like Predator Game
That sounds neat. I haven't played any Souls games before but from what I hear, its has a strong fun and challenging gameplay mechanic. Especially if you throw in the agility that PCJ had, it would make for strong Predator movement than just dodge rolling.
Side stepping would fit for Pred combat
Somehow, the Predator VR is still on Steam though, not sure if its playable.
So Illfonic is now working on Killer Klowns from Outer Space....
Yeah it is officially so over for Predator Hunting Grounds. Was a fun ride I suppose?
It's been over for awhile and while we don't know the exact reason (Tank was in the pipeline and his model was finished) it's doubtful we'd know specifically as to why unless someone speaks up or the contracts run out.
Illfonic appears to be support and publisher so they're not solely involved in this. But work is work and I doubt Illfonic had issue saying no to working on this. Now as to why someone thought it'd be a good idea to make a killer clowns from outer space videogame I have no idea. But Illfonic took the work and I honestly can't blame them.
Still possible to do a final "Ultimate Edition" as the last Hoorah.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Aug 24, 2023, 11:06:51 PMIt's been over for awhile and while we don't know the exact reason (Tank was in the pipeline and his model was finished) it's doubtful we'd know specifically as to why unless someone speaks up or the contracts run out.
I know that it's been over now, but huge issue is that in both Reddit, the official Forums, and Twitter, they claim that Predator is part of thier main games that they will continue to support but obviously from what we are seeing here, that was a lie.
Maybe sometime in the future they might try to do some changes again but at that point everyone will forget the game even exist so it's just pointless now.
The game engine and mechanics would have worked well for a Single Player campaign, even if a short one.
Quote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 19, 2023, 04:24:00 PMI would love a Souls-like Predator Game
I feel like a monster hunter Gene is a better fit for predator
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 15, 2023, 07:52:47 PMQuote from: PAS Spinelli on Aug 19, 2023, 04:24:00 PMI would love a Souls-like Predator Game
I feel like a monster hunter Gene is a better fit for predator
I was just watching a vid of Monster Hunter lore and I'm just wishing to see a Pred run amock racking trophies from these fellas.
A game about a Predator going up the rank by a hunting down hard prey on different planets and have a gameplay similar to monster Hunter would be absolutely perfect.
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 30, 2023, 08:56:03 AMA game about a Predator going up the rank by a hunting down hard prey on different planets and have a gameplay similar to monster Hunter would be absolutely perfect.
That's quite ambitious, it could also work as an Assassin's Creed kind of game, and even be set in the past.
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 07:02:18 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 30, 2023, 08:56:03 AMA game about a Predator going up the rank by a hunting down hard prey on different planets and have a gameplay similar to monster Hunter would be absolutely perfect.
That's quite ambitious, it could also work as an Assassin's Creed kind of game, and even be set in the past.
I just disagree that it is ambitious, I think it's quite safe, Predator it's always about hunting down the strongest creatures to gain honor to their clan.
On second thought being on different planets yeah that might be a bit of a stress I do agree, so how about Hunting down dinosaurs?
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 10, 2023, 08:24:59 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 07:02:18 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 30, 2023, 08:56:03 AMA game about a Predator going up the rank by a hunting down hard prey on different planets and have a gameplay similar to monster Hunter would be absolutely perfect.
That's quite ambitious, it could also work as an Assassin's Creed kind of game, and even be set in the past.
I just disagree that it is ambitious, I think it's quite safe, Predator it's always about hunting down the strongest creatures to gain honor to their clan.
On second thought being on different planets yeah that might be a bit of a stress I do agree, so how about Hunting down dinosaurs?
I guess I meant more in terms of budget/development time.
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 09:53:34 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 10, 2023, 08:24:59 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 07:02:18 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 30, 2023, 08:56:03 AMA game about a Predator going up the rank by a hunting down hard prey on different planets and have a gameplay similar to monster Hunter would be absolutely perfect.
That's quite ambitious, it could also work as an Assassin's Creed kind of game, and even be set in the past.
I just disagree that it is ambitious, I think it's quite safe, Predator it's always about hunting down the strongest creatures to gain honor to their clan.
On second thought being on different planets yeah that might be a bit of a stress I do agree, so how about Hunting down dinosaurs?
I guess I meant more in terms of budget/development time.
Oh, yeah it would take a long time and cost a "few bucks"
Quote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 10, 2023, 01:18:39 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 09:53:34 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 10, 2023, 08:24:59 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 07:02:18 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 30, 2023, 08:56:03 AMA game about a Predator going up the rank by a hunting down hard prey on different planets and have a gameplay similar to monster Hunter would be absolutely perfect.
That's quite ambitious, it could also work as an Assassin's Creed kind of game, and even be set in the past.
I just disagree that it is ambitious, I think it's quite safe, Predator it's always about hunting down the strongest creatures to gain honor to their clan.
On second thought being on different planets yeah that might be a bit of a stress I do agree, so how about Hunting down dinosaurs?
I guess I meant more in terms of budget/development time.
Oh, yeah it would take a long time and cost a "few bucks"
But it would be worth it!
Quote from: Wweyland on Oct 11, 2023, 01:06:36 PMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 10, 2023, 01:18:39 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 09:53:34 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Oct 10, 2023, 08:24:59 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Oct 10, 2023, 07:02:18 AMQuote from: Thatguy2068 on Sep 30, 2023, 08:56:03 AMA game about a Predator going up the rank by a hunting down hard prey on different planets and have a gameplay similar to monster Hunter would be absolutely perfect.
That's quite ambitious, it could also work as an Assassin's Creed kind of game, and even be set in the past.
I just disagree that it is ambitious, I think it's quite safe, Predator it's always about hunting down the strongest creatures to gain honor to their clan.
On second thought being on different planets yeah that might be a bit of a stress I do agree, so how about Hunting down dinosaurs?
I guess I meant more in terms of budget/development time.
Oh, yeah it would take a long time and cost a "few bucks"
But it would be worth it!
I don't know but I would like to think so, however I don't want this to be another cyberpunk because if it does it won't be worth it
So no hope for even small patches anymore?
Quote from: Wweyland on Dec 31, 2023, 12:36:12 PMSo no hope for even small patches anymore?
Its been like a year since the last patch, its over.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Jan 03, 2024, 01:04:52 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Dec 31, 2023, 12:36:12 PMSo no hope for even small patches anymore?
Its been like a year since the last patch, its over.
How long would the servers work?
However long they have them up to be honest. Without knowing what that contract looks like we don't know how long they have to keep them going.
Quote from: Wweyland on Jan 03, 2024, 01:29:13 PMQuote from: Samhain13 on Jan 03, 2024, 01:04:52 PMQuote from: Wweyland on Dec 31, 2023, 12:36:12 PMSo no hope for even small patches anymore?
Its been like a year since the last patch, its over.
How long would the servers work?
Using Friday 13th as a base that game lasted 6 years so since nothings been done on PHG for over a year i would assume something would happen in about 2 years.
Probably nobody will turn off the "local" matches, even if the game is removed from Steam.
I wish the devs had finalized the Offline Bots when playing the Predator. The team just heads towards your location and stands under your tree of your in one or just runs right into you and fires. You basically can't hunt them at all which defeats the purpose a bit. Oh well. Also question, is this game official canon or no?
I would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 08:31:39 AMI would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.
That's my thoughts as well. I saw a page from Illfonic getting go ahead from Fox. Able add a little to the lore with the game and it would be canon, so it must be. I don't think it went out of bounds with anything.
Though the only criticism I would say is the Isabelle tapes, mentioning she and the science team hypothesized that predators were "not very smart" due to how they had their equipment interface set up. In the end though, it's simply her opinion and she knows very little about them as a race outside of a few Bad Blood encounters. Maybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
Pretty much all new licensed releases are canon. Until the next new licensed release doesn't want to use/didn't want to research it, and then it's not.
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 08:31:39 AMI would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.
That's my thoughts as well. I saw a page from Illfonic getting go ahead from Fox. Able add a little to the lore with the game and it would be canon, so it must be. I don't think it went out of bounds with anything.
Though the only criticism I would say is the Isabelle tapes, mentioning she and the science team hypothesized that predators were "not very smart" due to how they had their equipment interface set up. In the end though, it's simply her opinion and she knows very little about them as a race outside of a few Bad Blood encounters. Maybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
We are yet to see a smart Predator who survives a movie. Wolf came close (in the game he survived).
Quote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 10:16:16 AMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AMQuote from: Wweyland on Mar 20, 2024, 08:31:39 AMI would say it is, with the endorsement by Arnold, featuring Keyes, Isabella, and everything.
It's been quite cohesive in bringing the lore together.
That's my thoughts as well. I saw a page from Illfonic getting go ahead from Fox. Able add a little to the lore with the game and it would be canon, so it must be. I don't think it went out of bounds with anything.
Though the only criticism I would say is the Isabelle tapes, mentioning she and the science team hypothesized that predators were "not very smart" due to how they had their equipment interface set up. In the end though, it's simply her opinion and she knows very little about them as a race outside of a few Bad Blood encounters. Maybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
We are yet to see a smart Predator who survives a movie. Wolf came close (in the game he survived).
To be fair we have yet to see any creature from any film survive. Aliens, gremlins, critters, predators, etc. It's unfortunately never going to change as long as humans are in the story. However in the comics they survived quite often. There are even more than a few recurring predators.
Also technically all of the predators at the end of Predator 2 would be surviving predators from hunts and an elder who very much has survived countless encounters. Also to note, at least 30 people die in every film besides the first movie before a single predator goes down and they have a far greater understanding of advanced technology as well as our own even in the films. The ones that do die, they typically fall to hubris and not a severe lack of intelligence.
Quote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AMMaybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
You know what....that didn't eve occur to me either lol! Its just another detail that is shamefully forgotten in later media. Funny how OWLF studied Predator corpses but never found out of their poor eyesight or researching their brains to determine their mental capabilities. We see this all the time in other sciences of other creatures to even MRI scans in dinosaur skulls to determine their brain size and intelligence.
Actually, thinking about it even more, it makes me review the final fight between Naru and Feral with more context now, seeing how there was movements he missed Naru doing as he had no mask in the fight. Like no wonder he struggled even more than people think he did. Predators are short sighted beings without their masks. I recall that in the final fight, the red vision has less details far away compared to their masked blue thermal vision where details is more defined and sharp. Thanks for that point!
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Mar 27, 2024, 06:31:52 AMQuote from: (Bad Blood) on Mar 20, 2024, 09:49:03 AMMaybe she didn't remember they can't see anything because of their rather poor vision so would require things to be highly noticeable while flying? Lol
You know what....that didn't eve occur to me either lol! Its just another detail that is shamefully forgotten in later media. Funny how OWLF studied Predator corpses but never found out of their poor eyesight or researching their brains to determine their mental capabilities. We see this all the time in other sciences of other creatures to even MRI scans in dinosaur skulls to determine their brain size and intelligence.
Actually, thinking about it even more, it makes me review the final fight between Naru and Feral with more context now, seeing how there was movements he missed Naru doing as he had no mask in the fight. Like no wonder he struggled even more than people think he did. Predators are short sighted beings without their masks. I recall that in the final fight, the red vision has less details far away compared to their masked blue thermal vision where details is more defined and sharp. Thanks for that point!
It is so very often left out, overlooked, or even considered. They are basically near blind without their masks. Exactly! Couldn't have said it better myself. Feral was at an extreme disadvantage against Naru.
He had his Brian's blown out so he had trouble thinking. Basically blind to her movements, heavy damage from prior fights. Exactly. Oh you are most welcome!