As some of you know, I had the chance to attend a press showing of Prometheus and I’ve written up a some-what detailed review:
“It's certainly been a fun road to here. First it was an Alien prequel, then it's a completely new original movie and then it becomes clear that it is in fact related to Alien. However, the important thing to take into consideration when watching Prometheus is that while it is connected to Alien, it is in no way an Alien movie.”
I’ve tried not to give away too many spoilers but I’d say it’s detailed. Have a read of my review and check out my opinion on the movie.
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Guys
Not reading any more, off to see it in 2 hours ;D
I've not been that active at all on the forum but would like to thank you all for the posts and discussions.
I've been reading daily for my fix. You guys have made it very interesting.
Only problem for today is I have a bad cough so if anyone in Aberdeen viewing this morning hears me, I promise to keep the coughing low :D
Cheers
Gary
I agree with you Completely Corp except one thing. I loved the score and that generated that extra half a star for me.
ooh you are lucky man that you already see it :-) but from the reading of your post i was expecting litle bit more from ridley.
So, we can expect another "AvP" like movie with Prometheus ?? because many reviews are mixed , mixed positive and many are negative. Oh dear. Too much hype will kill you....
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Jun 01, 2012, 10:28:50 AM
So, we can expect another "AvP" like movie with Prometheus ?? because many reviews are mixed , mixed positive and many are negative. Oh dear. Too much hype will kill you....
Its a great film just has a few issues is all.
Comparing this to AvP really would be dumb thing to do just because of the fact that this has way more value to the movie.
AvP was nothing more than a fancy mashup that turned out not that great. Prometheus is a fancy movie that just makes sure you will be leaving with many more questions :)
Great review. I totally agree that some things seemed to be glossed over.
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Especially the Shaw caesarian plot. Nobody even mentioned the creature or why Shaw had a ten inch scar across her stomach. The story just jumped straight into the Weyland plotline...very dissappointing. Again, it seemed to happen when the guy with the specs (i forget his name) was found...why was he dead? What killed him? Did anybody even care?
There was so much to enjoy in the movie but maybe it was the hype, maybe the tenuous link to the franchise but i left the cinema (at 3 in the morning) feeling a little...underwhelmed.
Fair review, Corporal Hicks!
Perhaps, I wouldn't be so critical about octopus creature appearance, tentacles could be if not scary, then giddy and certainly unpleasant.
And I absulutely second your opinion about super-grandiose score and unpropelly written characters' reactions and attitudes.
Its a movie that does ask more than it answers, for sure... Spent alot of time thinking about this movie after watching the midnight screening last night. I can't help but feel this was made originally with a Part 2 in mind... ill be very surprised if they don't announce a sequel soon, because there was so much left unanswered... Yeah it had the Alien link, with the birth of the 'Proto Alien', but your still left with that massive gap between that scene and Alien. First of all, its not the same planet as Alien, second, when they find the Engineer in Alien, its at the seat, so alot more goes on and I want to see it.
How was the 3D ?
Hello all
Just back. I'm easy to please and loved it to bits. 3D fantastic, score fantastic, crashing ship fantastic.
Left the cinema with watery eyes :'(
Gary
A wasted opportunity. Absolutely dissappointed.
A great set up, first hour of interesting plot, feels like its going somewhere then.
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*spoiler*
Shit gets real, the creatures in her. That scene, is the closest to the feeling of the original alien movies in years. It was great. Then its time for half an hour of space terror.....
But you dont get that. That scene happens, and then the film gives you a bunch of shitty scenes, with plot holes and confusion. No scary creatures chasing people, not nothing. Just a load of shit.
They just cant make films like the first few aliens anymore, and thats that. They CANT do it. The film gives us a scary alien at the end.... yes, at the end. What the f**k. Why wasnt that crreature in the movie after the first hour, giving us the horror movie Ridley said he was out to make. Instead we just get Ridley jacking off his ego and not taking the film ANYWHERE.
*unspoiler*
I just HATE how the characters are wrote really badly, people just dont seem to react to things that have happened in the plot. Its just crap.
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Why is no one referring to the fact that the proto-Alien "born" in the very end of the movie is a "queen".......
Quote from: AVP1974 on Jun 01, 2012, 03:14:02 PM
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Why is no one referring to the fact that the proto-Alien "born" in the very end of the movie is a "queen".......
Because this ain't fact but theory.
This is not the first time a solo Alien movie (Thats not AVP) is frowned upon, people were not happy about Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection.
Seems like a very fair review although I'm not sure how you can give it a 3.5 with so many problems. I still haven't seen the film for myself so I'm trying not to come down on the movie before I've even experienced it. But whenever I read the problems that the film has from people who've seen it, they are always the same problems that I imagined the film was going to have. It really worries me when people say that there are unanswered questions or things that didn't quite make sense. A movie should be able to stand on its own and I don't really think it's fair to assume that everything will be answered and/or make sense in a sequel. I'm more inclined to believe that it's just poor writing. I'm reminded of the quote by Ridley where he said it's going to be about everything. Well how the hell do you make a movie about everything without over-extending yourself? Especially in a film that's only 120 minutes long. Oh well, I'll stop now before I really start to rant. Like I said, I still need to see the movie. Good review tho.
Quote from: mastermoon on Jun 01, 2012, 03:17:25 PM
This is not the first time a solo Alien movie (Thats not AVP) is frowned upon, people were not happy about Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection.
Yet it has steal so much from it ;D
ALIEN³ wasn't well received because of the Production problem and the ultimate fact there were NO final cut from the director. Even Fincher himself avoid speaking of his own movie.
Alien Resurrection was just for the sake of doing a sequel and added strictly nothing to the license while all the predecessor did come up with original Material to be use.
AVP just went its own way by putting aside the Lovecraft Mythos and the Sexual Connotation omnipresent by Giger.
So i guess the list now goes like this in terms of quality?
1 - Aliens
2 - Alien
3 - Prometheus
4 - Ali3n
5 - Alien Resurrection
;) :D
I notice fans never really viewed the Alien sequels (after Aliens) not the same again.
Alien 3: Fans were very mad about this movie and called it a let down.
Alien Resurrection: People liked this better then Alien 3 but it did not live up to the legacy of the first two movies.
Prometheus: Some fans compare this with Alien Resurrection among fan reactions.
Looks like it's gonna be hard for directors to rival both Alien & Aliens.
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Quote from: Le Celticant on Jun 01, 2012, 03:15:09 PM
Quote from: AVP1974 on Jun 01, 2012, 03:14:02 PM
Why is no one referring to the fact that the proto-Alien "born" in the very end of the movie is a "queen".......
Because this ain't fact but theory.
The jaw kind of unhindges just like the alien queen in aliens not theory but fact.......
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jun 01, 2012, 03:29:08 PM
So i guess the list now goes like this in terms of quality?
1 - Aliens
2 - Alien
3 - Prometheus
4 - Ali3n
5 - Alien Resurrection
;) :D
i haven't seen prometheus yet, but until i will see prometheus my list will be :
1 - Alien
2 - Aliens
3 - AvP (hey, who throw that egg on me :( )
4 - Ali3n
5 - Predator :trollface:
A:R pure shit...
I have feeling that number 3 will be replaced with Prometheus. I hope.
Alien 3 is a far better movie than this piece of crap. The Assembly Line version is especially vastly superior to Prometheus.
Quote from: MrLee on Jun 01, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
Alien 3 is a far better movie than this piece of crap. The Assembly Line version is especially vastly superior to Prometheus.
You have not said anything about Alien Resurrection?.
Quote from: MrLee on Jun 01, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
Alien 3 is a far better movie than this piece of crap. The Assembly Line version is especially vastly superior to Prometheus.
If someone wrote this half year back he would be instantly banned :) Guys, now I really hesitate if I should even see this movie....if not wait for bluray instead.
Quote from: mastermoon on Jun 01, 2012, 03:40:58 PM
Quote from: MrLee on Jun 01, 2012, 03:38:25 PM
Alien 3 is a far better movie than this piece of crap. The Assembly Line version is especially vastly superior to Prometheus.
You have not said anything about Alien Resurrection?.
Never felt AR was that great a movie in the Alien quadrilogy, it was very "European tacky", its not aged very well either compared to the other entries. That film sits soley in 1997.
I personally really liked this movie. Sure it left a lot of questions unanswered and some moments were rather confusing but all in all I was satisfied. This was my most waited movie this year and I am pretty happy with the result. And with a possible sequel (if lucky) makes me wanna say that I do not regret today's visit to the cinema. :)
Quote from: shinigami on Jun 01, 2012, 05:21:24 PM
I personally really liked this movie. Sure it left a lot of questions unanswered and some moments were rather confusing but all in all I was satisfied. This was my most waited movie this year and I am pretty happy with the result. And with a possible sequel (if lucky) makes me wanna say that I do not regret today's visit to the cinema. :)
Can you refund the £8.30 this film cost me to watch :p haha
But seriously...
You were happy with all those questions unanswered, created and the tremendous plot holes?
I agree with this review reagrding the score, it felt so out of place. Its a good sounding score just in the wrong movie, i said the same in my review.
Quote from: Mastes1 on Jun 01, 2012, 05:42:07 PM
I agree with this review reagrding the score, it felt so out of place. Its a good sounding score just in the wrong movie, i said the same in my review.
Yeah alot of the time the music sounded more like some sort of Indiana Jones adventure movie.
i have read a lot of reviews by now and the main problem imo that every review is startin with this: "comparing to alien"
-.- oh my , why??? so many dumb people out there....you cant compare these two movies why dont they compare it to blade runner? why at all??? ofcourse alien is a milestone i scifi history but i know why ridley said that this has nothing to do with alien
Quote from: szkoki on Jun 01, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
i have read a lot of reviews by now and the main problem imo that every review is startin with this: "comparing to alien"
-.- oh my , why??? so many dumb people out there....you cant compare these two movies why dont they compare it to blade runner? why at all??? ofcourse alien is a milestone i scifi history but i know why ridley said that this has nothing to do with alien
This movie is poorly made by any standards (accept visual), compared to Alien or not. It's made of cardboard. Cardboard characters, cardboard decorations, cardboard story... It has great idea in it's core, but narrative goes nowhere with it. Overall impression - disappointment. Disappointment.... Disappointment.... Disappointment....
Quote from: RAD_RAT on Jun 01, 2012, 09:35:29 PM
Quote from: szkoki on Jun 01, 2012, 08:45:54 PM
i have read a lot of reviews by now and the main problem imo that every review is startin with this: "comparing to alien"
-.- oh my , why??? so many dumb people out there....you cant compare these two movies why dont they compare it to blade runner? why at all??? ofcourse alien is a milestone i scifi history but i know why ridley said that this has nothing to do with alien
This movie is poorly made by any standards (accept visual), compared to Alien or not. It's made of cardboard. Cardboard characters, cardboard decorations, cardboard story... It has great idea in it's core, but narrative goes nowhere with it. Overall impression - disappointment. Disappointment.... Disappointment.... Disappointment....
But I heard Elizabeth Shaw & David 8 were the most developed characters and were also praised.
David was good, but even then they still f**k him up as it goes on.
Thoroughly enjoyed it. Negatives were few and far between. I sorta wish Weyland had been an older actor, but plotwise I had no problem with the film. You do have to join the dots but everything that needs to be said is there to do that - in regards to what they find set up on LV-223 anyway. I don't really feel that there were any questions left unanswered that particularly need an answer, and to be honest I don't even think the ending is a certain link to a sequel. Though it could be.
But yeah, I do think there's a longer edit of this film itching to get out. And I guess I was geared up for some nasty death scenes that didn't transpire.
I'll write a review with positives and negatives tomorrow, but immediate reaction - happy to have watched a Sci-Fi film that isn't all about visual effects and one that was thoroughly engaging.
wow Gash, that's good to hear. My Facebook UK friend Michael Harper who's an ALIEN freak (more than me) LOVED Prometheus.
The more outraged the hardcore forums are, the more I look forward to it. Scott is moving on.
And I still like the score quite a lot. New franchise and all.
the movie was definitely flawed. no denying to that. characters that were barely present and not even properly introduced play bigger parts than some which occupy a bigger deal of run time, there are things happening without a reason, decisions made without a reason, what was the point of hiding the presence of Wayland and his mercs? what was the point of the snake creature? what was the point of Fifields mutation? all of these things point somewhere, but the movie utterly fails to make them matter, and to cover it it keeps trowing more and more stuff until it can almost overwhelm you and make you forget just what the f**k is going on. visuals were nice but the quick editing and soundtrack made it impossible to immerse in them. there wasn't a single pan, time lapse, walking, flying or exploring sequence to build tension. luckily Ridley still managed without, but it didn't feel like it was comfortable with showing you more.
and i get the feel like every single one of those things had a strong and solid reason idea behind them, but they just forgot to implement it, and instead of ditching it entirely, they kept it because they were afraid they wouldn't get a second shot at it.
i pray that when the movie is released there's enough footage ready to be added in to make this mess make sense, because when it does, i can actually start loving it. so far i feel like i watched a movie that hasn't finished filming yet. this needs like two whole extra hours.
still nice. i missed the oppressive dark exteriors of LV-426 but movies like red planet proved that empty alien deserts can be frightening too. i wish there was more to that planet though. it seemed unbelievably opportune for them to land and end up so close to these temples right away. wonder if there were more Gigerian, creepy structures around the planet that they just didn't see. that's another point, we never knew the real nature of this place. even in alien we knew the Derelict crashed there, it was very solidly established. word-dropping "military base" here was as close as we got, and i got the impression that it wasn't accurate to the situation at all.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Jun 02, 2012, 12:02:11 AM
the movie was definitely flawed. no denying to that. characters that were barely present and not even properly introduced play bigger parts than some which occupy a bigger deal of run time, there are things happening without a reason, decisions made without a reason, what was the point of hiding the presence of Wayland and his mercs? what was the point of the snake creature? what was the point of Fifields mutation? all of these things point somewhere, but the movie utterly fails to make them matter, and to cover it it keeps trowing more and more stuff until it can almost overwhelm you and make you forget just what the f**k is going on.
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Fifield's mutation occurs after seeing him fall face first into the black goo, and the black goo has already been established as something that can change and mutate things as I believe that moment is intercut with David choosing to spike Holloway's drink. It becomes clearer later that the urns are a DNA altering bio weapon. The snake is just one of the many consequences of the goo, possibly altered from a tiny grub. I think more could have been made of Fifield being missing so that his eventual return had more impact but I wouldn't say these things were set up pointlessly or lead nowhere.
I'm surprise how the low the rating is. I remember the rating for Predators was even higher?
I'm probably going to like this movie al lot.
Mostly every movie that hadcore fanboys hate, I enjoy...mostly.
What low rating?
Ok, I have just got back from seeing it, and I think it was bloody awful. I won't spoil plot, but I will say if you have seen the trailer then there is nothing left to see.
Acting was awful, plot was mediocre and the movie just felt rushed. I am so angry.
A lot of people have complained about the editing in this movie and it makes me think of the 'landing sequence' that was released a few weeks ago. The editing in that 1 minute video was complete crap. So I'm wondering, is that actually how it was in the movie? Or was there a lot more than was in that short clip?
here's the clip for reference http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43438.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43438.0)
Quote from: Ooze on First on Jun 02, 2012, 02:34:47 AM
I'm probably going to like this movie al lot.
Mostly every movie that hadcore fanboys hate, I enjoy...mostly.
Guess that means the AVP films must have a proud position on your shelf.
Judging from your review Hicks, it sounds like this is suffering from "Lost syndrome" in which there's too many questions and not enough answers.
Quote from: Cvalda on Jun 02, 2012, 03:01:31 AM
Quote from: Ooze on First on Jun 02, 2012, 02:34:47 AM
I'm probably going to like this movie al lot.
Mostly every movie that hadcore fanboys hate, I enjoy...mostly.
Guess that means the AVP films must have a proud position on your shelf.
Believe me or not but they have...AvP 1 is my favourite, after Alien and Aliens.
So I got into job #2 yesterday (cinema job) and literally all the staff were talking about it. They were theorizing and asking me questions and they were excited about it. Ridley obviously did what he set out to do. And being round my friends, being asked those questions and them being excited about it...It's really got me pumped to see it again.
I didn't go to the midnight showing but I'm going again today and I'm excited for it again. I keep thinking of those questions, keep thinking of answers...keep wondering if there's anything I missed. It's all mystery and I'm excited about it.
How strange.
I'm curious to see it again but only to drink it in, visually, as well as the sound. I know that the same editing problems will still be there when I go back. I need a new cut of the film, an empty dark room, and some time alone to view it.
Quote from: Cvalda on Jun 02, 2012, 03:01:31 AM
Quote from: Ooze on First on Jun 02, 2012, 02:34:47 AM
I'm probably going to like this movie al lot.
Mostly every movie that hadcore fanboys hate, I enjoy...mostly.
Guess that means the AVP films must have a proud position on your shelf.
Yes he will....... and so will i....... not everyone is and mindless drone whos afraind to like what everyone else says you are supposed to hate.......
An absolute buy on DVD/BluRay for me at least........
Only very few things i didnt like about it........
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But i REALLLLY like that they expanded the alien life cycle and showed that the engineeres of "bioweapons" are just that "Plural".......
A nice little nod to the Alien fans in the end with a proto-alien queen breaking out of the engineers chest at the very end.......
Yes a queen despite what others say....... ::)
Ohhh did i mention this was my very first 3D movie ever.......
Nice way to start.......
allready a Prometheus game at work ? :) :)
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Quote from: Max Powers on Jun 02, 2012, 02:59:49 AM
A lot of people have complained about the editing in this movie and it makes me think of the 'landing sequence' that was released a few weeks ago. The editing in that 1 minute video was complete crap. So I'm wondering, is that actually how it was in the movie? Or was there a lot more than was in that short clip?
here's the clip for reference http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43438.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=43438.0)
No it's not like that in the movie. I didn't have a problem with the editing. It has its flaws, but for me those were to do with a couple of set pieces that could have cranked up the suspense a lot more. That and the fact that the trailers were too revealing after all. Oh and Guy Pearce is a great actor but Ridley should have cast the role as he did with Richard Harris or Joe Turkel for more gravitas and less of a distraction.
Of other pace/edit issues...
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The Shaw Caesarian scene seemed to come up very much sooner than expected, and I realised that we must be approaching the final act. The build up (temple search, David's duplicity etc) is great and very engaging but when things start to go awry you do feel like the suspense and horror element is missing as the crew don't really get whittled down and more desperate as you might expect. So Shaw's birth heralds the third act and it just seems too soon. Unlike many an action film that goes on close to three hours and really drags, Prometheus has created intrigue that sustains it and it really could have easily been 30 minutes longer without outstaying its welcome, making better use of the crew being victims of the bio weapons so that the truth of what they were facing dawned on them. ie somewhere in the story it became known that the urns were bio weapons but I'm not sure who drew this conclusion.
People
really need to learn to use spoiler warnings around here...
I've edited some of the replies in this thread, accordingly. Please remember to use them. It's the nuclear warning-looking symbol in the reply panel.
Quote from: AVP1974 on Jun 01, 2012, 03:14:02 PM
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Why is no one referring to the fact that the proto-Alien "born" in the very end of the movie is a "queen".......
Spoiler
Because there's nothing to prove that it is. There's nothing to state it is or isn't. It doesn't even have a tail and the head is completely different to any Alien we've seen, so far.
As for the review, now that I've seen the film, I'd disagree with at least one point of it: It very much
is an '
Alien' movie. Certainly far more so, in terms of atmosphere and style, than '
Alien Resurrection' was.
I know I haven't posted much on this excellent forum but I have been enjoying it for a long while now. I think this site is perfect in terms of debate on something we are all clearly very passionate about and for that I would like to thank each and every one of you for keeping me so entertained. :)
I got to see Prometheus at a midnight showing, after thinking about it for a couple of days I have decided as flawed as it was in places that...
I loved it
Nothing in this world is perfect and we all had expectations of what this film should be, but at the end of the day this film entertained the s**t out of me.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jun 01, 2012, 03:29:08 PM
So i guess the list now goes like this in terms of quality?
1 - Aliens
2 - Alien
3 - Prometheus
4 - Ali3n
5 - Alien Resurrection
;) :D
Huh?!? You would put aliens over alien I terms of quality? And depending on your idea of quality Prometheus could well be top, of the series it's the most visually stunning
@Pete Script i couldnt have said it better myself!
why would reviews matter when i watched the movie already?
I enjoyed it, won tickets to the midnight screening locally :D, Awesome 3D, beutifully shot, Nice nods to the series with little scene variations, and nods to the orignal alien score but some things were left out, didnt ridley say in an interview there was a 2 hour 40 min version of the film? ... scenes missing/ things not explained
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From the trailers the shot of weylan and his entourage entering a room on the promethues with the head of secruity shooting? When the mowhaw guy returns to the ship, a bunch of the guys jump into the people carrier thing and drive off never to be seen or spoken off again, in the trailer the captain shouting, why is that door open and shoot anything that moves? Shaw just not telling anyone bout the thing she just cut out of her self or NO one taking on the incission. The shot of shaw driving the people carrier? Vickers death felt like a huge cop out
Still enjoyed it alot, the ending felt like force sequel bait, and people bitched bout gestation time in the avp films lol hide for cover.
I read your review, seems interesting. Although, the ProtoAlien doesn't really make alot of sense.
AvP has established that Xenomorphs have already existed for thousands of years, meaning that the creatures encountered in Prometheus could not have been ProtoAliens.
My only theory for these organisms is that, if they originated from this black goop, which obviously must contain genetic material, then perhaps, assuming that the Xenomorphs are a creation of the Space Jockey, these organisms came from leftover genetic material from true ProtoAliens made long ago.
Quote from: XenoPuke on Jun 05, 2012, 01:40:22 AM
AvP has established
Woah, stop right there :laugh:
Great review Corporal Hicks, can't wait to check it for myself on thursday
Quote from: XenoPuke on Jun 05, 2012, 01:40:22 AM
I read your review, seems interesting. Although, the ProtoAlien doesn't really make alot of sense.
AvP has established that Xenomorphs have already existed for thousands of years, meaning that the creatures encountered in Prometheus could not have been ProtoAliens.
My only theory for these organisms is that, if they originated from this black goop, which obviously must contain genetic material, then perhaps, assuming that the Xenomorphs are a creation of the Space Jockey, these organisms came from leftover genetic material from true ProtoAliens made long ago.
They're ignoring AVP.
Quote from: n00b133 on Jun 02, 2012, 06:48:51 PM
@Pete Script i couldnt have said it better myself!
Thanks bud, glad I'm not alone. ;D
Quote from: Sgt. Apone on Jun 05, 2012, 05:22:00 AM
Quote from: XenoPuke on Jun 05, 2012, 01:40:22 AM
I read your review, seems interesting. Although, the ProtoAlien doesn't really make alot of sense.
AvP has established that Xenomorphs have already existed for thousands of years, meaning that the creatures encountered in Prometheus could not have been ProtoAliens.
My only theory for these organisms is that, if they originated from this black goop, which obviously must contain genetic material, then perhaps, assuming that the Xenomorphs are a creation of the Space Jockey, these organisms came from leftover genetic material from true ProtoAliens made long ago.
They're ignoring AVP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgZIYdFmZqc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgZIYdFmZqc#)
Quote from: Sgt. Apone on Jun 05, 2012, 05:22:00 AM
Quote from: XenoPuke on Jun 05, 2012, 01:40:22 AM
I read your review, seems interesting. Although, the ProtoAlien doesn't really make alot of sense.
AvP has established that Xenomorphs have already existed for thousands of years, meaning that the creatures encountered in Prometheus could not have been ProtoAliens.
My only theory for these organisms is that, if they originated from this black goop, which obviously must contain genetic material, then perhaps, assuming that the Xenomorphs are a creation of the Space Jockey, these organisms came from leftover genetic material from true ProtoAliens made long ago.
They're ignoring AVP.
Ridley lost his chance.
AVP will always be CANOOOOOOON!
Well worded amigo.
Very good review I agree with pretty much all of it. Too many plot holes and unanswered questions and the terrible score detracted from what could've been a great movie.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 08, 2012, 04:54:16 AM
Quote from: Sgt. Apone on Jun 05, 2012, 05:22:00 AM
Quote from: XenoPuke on Jun 05, 2012, 01:40:22 AM
I read your review, seems interesting. Although, the ProtoAlien doesn't really make alot of sense.
AvP has established that Xenomorphs have already existed for thousands of years, meaning that the creatures encountered in Prometheus could not have been ProtoAliens.
My only theory for these organisms is that, if they originated from this black goop, which obviously must contain genetic material, then perhaps, assuming that the Xenomorphs are a creation of the Space Jockey, these organisms came from leftover genetic material from true ProtoAliens made long ago.
They're ignoring AVP.
Ridley lost his chance.
AVP will always be CANOOOOOOON!
But please, only AvP 1....AVP:R never happened, right?
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Quote from: psychonaut25 on Jun 09, 2012, 05:00:45 AM
But please, only AvP 1....AVP:R never happened, right?
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Correct.
Quote from: XenoPuke on Jun 05, 2012, 01:40:22 AM
I read your review, seems interesting. Although, the ProtoAlien doesn't really make alot of sense.
AvP has established that Xenomorphs have already existed for thousands of years, meaning that the creatures encountered in Prometheus could not have been ProtoAliens.
My only theory for these organisms is that, if they originated from this black goop, which obviously must contain genetic material, then perhaps, assuming that the Xenomorphs are a creation of the Space Jockey, these organisms came from leftover genetic material from true ProtoAliens made long ago.
Yes, my theory would be that xenomorphs were being "recreated" (not created) by the Engineers.
AVP and AVP:R both happened and both of them are not cannon. They have their own horrible movie cannon which died with AVP:R.
Spoiler
The cold hard truth.
The funny part of this Prometheus threads is that allways someone is mentioning avp 1 :)
Quote from: psychonaut25 on Jun 16, 2012, 10:03:54 AM
The funny part of this Prometheus threads is that allways someone is mentioning avp 1 :)
That was the last good movie in both franchises.
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jun 02, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
Huh?!? You would put aliens over alien I terms of quality? And depending on your idea of quality Prometheus could well be top, of the series it's the most visually stunning
...my idea of quality? Oh hello there, mister-i-make-silly-assumptions-about-other-people.
I felt Aliens was more tense and slightly more paranoid than the first film... and it just has better dialogue and character work.. the 80's action movie vibes may put some off.. but please do consider that these films are essentially Bmovie stories with Aclass moviemaking. They werent made to please pretentious twats. :laugh:
Prometheus just isnt as tight in it's storytelling as Aliens or Alien.
Quote from: Blacklabel on Jun 17, 2012, 02:25:19 AM
Quote from: hfeldhaus on Jun 02, 2012, 06:31:23 PM
Huh?!? You would put aliens over alien I terms of quality? And depending on your idea of quality Prometheus could well be top, of the series it's the most visually stunning
...my idea of quality? Oh hello there, mister-i-make-silly-assumptions-about-other-people.
I felt Aliens was more tense and slightly more paranoid than the first film... and it just has better dialogue and character work.. the 80's action movie vibes may put some off.. but please do consider that these films are essentially Bmovie stories with Aclass moviemaking. They werent made to please pretentious twats. :laugh:
Prometheus just isnt as tight in it's storytelling as Aliens or Alien.
i agree that promtheus isnt as good as alien or aliens in terms of dialogue, but saying that aliens has better dialogue than alien is ridiculous. aliens had the typical cheesey corney cameron script that if it didnt make you cringe made you annoyed (Hudson, vasquez and drake all spout some bullshit lines that just take away from any realism that was accomplished in the first film). the script for alien was wound much tighter than aliens and was more believable. whilst i think aliens is a great film i dont think its a great alien film. as for me making assumptions about you, read my post wise guy. i didnt make any assumptions i just asked you what your idea was for what made aliens a more quality film than alien. and as for the 80s b movie/ a movie thing that had nothing to do with either of our posts
Funny how many lines of those annoying lives have become very well known.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Jun 17, 2012, 07:21:22 AM
Funny how many lines of those annoying lives have become very well known.
Doesn't make them good though does it