Alien 5 to be "Genetic Sibling" to Alien & Aliens

Started by Corporal Hicks, Feb 25, 2015, 08:58:36 PM

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Alien 5 to be "Genetic Sibling" to Alien & Aliens (Read 81,208 times)

Magegg

Quote from: stroggificated on Feb 27, 2015, 12:00:41 AMI care for Ripley, Hicks and Newt only.
No one loves Bishop U.U

xeno-kaname

xeno-kaname

#331
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 26, 2015, 11:34:23 PM
Quote from: RakaiThwei on Feb 26, 2015, 11:32:14 PM
Quote from: SpeedyMaxx on Feb 26, 2015, 11:28:40 PM
None of the EU is canon or ever will be.

Does this also include the EU reboot with Fire and Stone, as well as the Titan Publishing books?

Probably.

They'll market it to fans and they'll gloss over any answer they give the devoted fans and pretty it up, but the bottom line is? No director who ever comes into this franchise ever again, whether it's Neill Blomkamp or Ridley Scott or Jim Cameron or anyone else, is ever going to give a shit about any of that material or want anything to do with it. That goes for the games, the books, the comics, and yes, most especially the AVP films.

They may never say that outright to your face, they may say something vague and nice to keep you hoping, but that is exactly what is happening. Doesn't mean they will ever stop pushing the product while making new films, but the films will never be beholden to any of that. Nor should they be.
It's a two way street. EU in all its forms usually bends to the movie stories because those get much more exposure than comics, games or novels. But the truth is one form of entertainment should not trump the other. It just happens that a lot of comic writers and novelists succumb to the changes that arrive with a new movie to have a more "connected" feel. It's more profitable. If all it takes is a big budget and Fox's big shiny stamp of approval/canon, then the AvP's, Predators, Prometheus are all connected and we already have at least one alternate timeline.

SpreadEagleBeagle

SpreadEagleBeagle

#332
I cared jack shit about Hicks and Newt in ALIENS because they were so 80s two-dimensional.

Ironically enough A3 is the movie where they started feeling like real people that I cared about. Their deaths are hands down the strongest and most emotional narratives of all the movies. The funeral scene is just as poetic, emotional and beautiful as it is sordid, cold-hearted and gruesome. Actually that is one of my top five favorite scenes of any Alien movie. The Hicks and Newt characters got the greatest farewell scene of any other character, except for maybe Ripley.

Alien³

Alien³

#333
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Feb 27, 2015, 12:42:53 AM
Their deaths are hands down the strongest and most emotional narratives in the all the movies. The funeral scene is just as poetic, emotional and beautiful as it is sordid, cold-hearted and gruesome. Actually that is my top five favorite scenes of any Alien movie. The Hicks and Newt characters got the greatest farewell scene of any other character, except for maybe Ripley.


xeno-kaname

Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Feb 27, 2015, 12:42:53 AM
I cared jack shit about Hicks and Newt in ALIENS because they were so 80s two-dimensional.

Ironically enough A3 is the movie where they started feeling like real people that I cared about. Their deaths are hands down the strongest and most emotional narratives in the all the movies. The funeral scene is just as poetic, emotional and beautiful as it is sordid, cold-hearted and gruesome. Actually that is my top five favorite scenes of any Alien movie. The Hicks and Newt characters got the greatest farewell scene of any other character, except for maybe Ripley.
Na.

SpreadEagleBeagle

Quote from: xeno-kaname on Feb 27, 2015, 12:52:21 AM
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Feb 27, 2015, 12:42:53 AM
I cared jack shit about Hicks and Newt in ALIENS because they were so 80s two-dimensional.

Ironically enough A3 is the movie where they started feeling like real people that I cared about. Their deaths are hands down the strongest and most emotional narratives in the all the movies. The funeral scene is just as poetic, emotional and beautiful as it is sordid, cold-hearted and gruesome. Actually that is my top five favorite scenes of any Alien movie. The Hicks and Newt characters got the greatest farewell scene of any other character, except for maybe Ripley.
Na.

Ya.

Alien³


Perfect-Organism

Ok folks.  We must unite!  And agree to disagree about something we know almost nothing about!  It's the only way!!

xeno-kaname

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Feb 27, 2015, 12:55:52 AM
Ok folks.  We must unite!  And agree to disagree about something we know almost nothing about!  It's the only way!!
It'll take a while. 7 stages of grief. The denial part is done and they're in the anger part.

We need to accept this is happening. And that's it. Criticism should be left for the actual plot, which we really don't know anything about. Even I tire of these arguments. They're just one opinion vs the other.

SpreadEagleBeagle

Quote from: xeno-kaname on Feb 27, 2015, 12:59:53 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Feb 27, 2015, 12:55:52 AM
Ok folks.  We must unite!  And agree to disagree about something we know almost nothing about!  It's the only way!!
It'll take a while. 7 stages of grief. The denial part is done and they're in the anger part.

We need to accept this is happening. And that's it. Criticism should be left for the actual plot, which we really don't know anything about. Even I tire of these arguments. They're just one opinion vs the other.

It didn't sound like that when A3 lacked marines and escorted Hicks & Newt out of the story, did it? You've been bitching about it for 20+ years. But when they decide to delete and erase two entire movies, it is Zen time... Splendid!

Anyways, all we know is that A5 is going to be a Blomkamp film - amazing designs, poorly written characters, exploding bodies, and juvenile heroism pretending to be pragmatic and deep.

Liberator

The events of Alien 3 and 4 should be a bad dream or just forgotten like they never happened at all.  The makers need to really go for this and make Alien 3 again the right way.

OpenMaw

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Feb 27, 2015, 12:55:52 AM
Ok folks.  We must unite!  And agree to disagree about something we know almost nothing about!  It's the only way!!

I say we sign out, and nuke the forums from the internetz.

It's the only way to be sure.


Quote from: xeno-kaname on Feb 27, 2015, 12:59:53 AM
It'll take a while. 7 stages of grief. The denial part is done and they're in the anger part.

We need to accept this is happening. And that's it. Criticism should be left for the actual plot, which we really don't know anything about. Even I tire of these arguments. They're just one opinion vs the other.

Indeed.

RakaiThwei

Quote from: Liberator on Feb 27, 2015, 01:38:49 AM
The events of Alien 3 and 4 should be a bad dream or just forgotten like they never happened at all.  The makers need to really go for this and make Alien 3 again the right way.

We don't need the franchise going the way of Dallas and Roseanne!

Nightmare Asylum

Maybe this movie will be a dream Ripley has while she's falling into the furnace in Alien 3.

SpreadEagleBeagle

Quote from: Liberator on Feb 27, 2015, 01:38:49 AM
The events of Alien 3 and 4 should be a bad dream or just forgotten like they never happened at all.  The makers need to really go for this and make Alien 3 again the right way.

The right way? What's that? And ALIENS compilation YouTube video with glamour shots of Hicks in full combat attire?

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