Predator: Badlands opening November 7th, 2025!

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Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

CANNON

CANNON

#91
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2024, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

Yeah that all does make sense and I'm all for it. I'm confident the animation medium would work great, I just wouldn't want the animation, as it does sometimes to go too far and get too far over the top, accidently or purposefully separating itself from the films so much that it feels unrelatable or unrecognizable.

 

Mr.Turok

Mr.Turok

#92
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 30, 2024, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2024, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

Yeah that all does make sense and I'm all for it. I'm confident the animation medium would work great, I just wouldn't want the animation, as it does sometimes to go too far and get too far over the top, accidently or purposefully separating itself from the films so much that it feels unrelatable or unrecognizable.

Is there an example that helps contextualize this? You lose me at "unrelatable" as everyone can relate to any animation style, as visuals of artistic movement to tell a story is not a foreign concept to anyone.

Like I got alot in my head like Netflix Castlevania, Yasuke, Cyberpunk 2077 Edgerunners, Gangsta, Devilman Crybaby, and a few others that can do well in capturing the weight, prowess, power, ferocity, and the savagery of the Predator. Hell, perhaps the animation can even look back at 80s-90s for influence like Ghost in a Shell or Cowboy Beepbop. The animation medium, especially in the anime side of things, is very diverse.

solace97

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2024, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

What would your ideal AVP story follow?

CANNON

CANNON

#94
Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 03, 2024, 05:08:18 AM
Quote from: CANNON on Oct 30, 2024, 12:16:43 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2024, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

Yeah that all does make sense and I'm all for it. I'm confident the animation medium would work great, I just wouldn't want the animation, as it does sometimes to go too far and get too far over the top, accidently or purposefully separating itself from the films so much that it feels unrelatable or unrecognizable.

Is there an example that helps contextualize this? You lose me at "unrelatable" as everyone can relate to any animation style, as visuals of artistic movement to tell a story is not a foreign concept to anyone.

Like I got alot in my head like Netflix Castlevania, Yasuke, Cyberpunk 2077 Edgerunners, Gangsta, Devilman Crybaby, and a few others that can do well in capturing the weight, prowess, power, ferocity, and the savagery of the Predator. Hell, perhaps the animation can even look back at 80s-90s for influence like Ghost in a Shell or Cowboy Beepbop. The animation medium, especially in the anime side of things, is very diverse.

Yeah you are right and I agree those are good examples that could potentially work. What I was referring to specifically is not so much the actual artistic or stylistic design or its approach but rather the excessive and/or exaggerated action we sometimes see with animation. E.G. The 30' jumps in the air, the unnecessary backflips and somersaults, the overblown extravagance of an 1 on 1 fight. The Predator films for the most part are a bit more grounded in realism and physics. So when I say unrelatable, that's what I'm referring to, it would be for me too different.

I also wanted to say that you hit the nail on the head with "capturing the weight, prowess, power, ferocity, and the savagery of the Predator." That sort of goes in tandem with what I was saying, I think as long as the physics and action doesn't get to overblown and uses what we saw in terms of action in the previous live action films it will feel relatable.


RoguePred1987

We're getting a Predator anime, and the executive from 20th said AVP is back on the table. I think the odds of getting an AVP anime are looking better every day.

[cancerblack]

Quote from: RoguePred1987 on Nov 05, 2024, 05:27:43 AMWe're getting a Predator anime, and the executive from 20th said AVP is back on the table. I think the odds of getting an AVP anime are looking better every day.

We already have one, it's just so bad it didn't get released.

RoguePred1987

in fairness we'll never know what the shelved AVP anime is really like until we actually see it. hearing the American producer's comments on it was really disheartening but it also, at least to me, sounded like they were making a point of tearing down the final product. it's entirely possible that a lot of people might like or even love it if it's given a chance.

Mr.Turok

Quote from: CANNON on Nov 03, 2024, 12:36:24 PME.G. The 30' jumps in the air, the unnecessary backflips and somersaults, the overblown extravagance of an 1 on 1 fight.

That sounds all fantastically wonderful actually  :laugh: Have a Predator dodge 25 incoming missiles and then take the last on and throw it back at a mecha, and proceeds to german suplex a squad of cybernetic super soldiers. I think the fandom would like at least once instance of a genuinely fun episode of a Predator just ripping shit apart in that action packed anime manner as a treat.

CANNON

Quote from: Mr.Turok on Nov 06, 2024, 01:23:52 AM
Quote from: CANNON on Nov 03, 2024, 12:36:24 PME.G. The 30' jumps in the air, the unnecessary backflips and somersaults, the overblown extravagance of an 1 on 1 fight.

That sounds all fantastically wonderful actually  :laugh: Have a Predator dodge 25 incoming missiles and then take the last on and throw it back at a mecha, and proceeds to german suplex a squad of cybernetic super soldiers. I think the fandom would like at least once instance of a genuinely fun episode of a Predator just ripping shit apart in that action packed anime manner as a treat.

Lmao

Cougerboy

Cougerboy

#100
So as an anthology, are we getting unique animated style for each segment like we had seen in Animatrix and Gotham Knights? Will it work?

Nightmare Asylum

Quote from: Cougerboy on Nov 06, 2024, 11:36:01 AMSo as an anthology, are we getting unique animated style for each segment like we had seen in Aniamtrix

I certainly hope so.

CANNON

Quote from: Cougerboy on Nov 06, 2024, 11:36:01 AMSo as an anthology, are we getting unique animated style for each segment like we had seen in Aniamtrix and Gotham Knight? Will it work?

That could be interesting

Cougerboy

Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Nov 06, 2024, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: Cougerboy on Nov 06, 2024, 11:36:01 AMSo as an anthology, are we getting unique animated style for each segment like we had seen in Aniamtrix

I certainly hope so.

Hmmm...I don't know, could look bad and jarring if not executed well, but if done well and are mostly original stories...maybe it could be good. We'll just have to wait and see at this point.

The Shuriken

Quote from: solace97 on Nov 03, 2024, 05:17:00 AM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 30, 2024, 06:18:02 AM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 28, 2024, 01:09:04 AMI'm of the opposite mindset. If you're going to do something animated, then own that and lean into what you can do uniquely in that medium. Go heavily stylized, don't limit it to what can be done in live action (otherwise why not just do it in live action to begin with?).

I agree 100%. It's why I've always been so eager to see Alien vs./Predator in an anime format. I've long thought one of Predator's biggest strengths is its flexibility - in terms of story and design - and I think that extends to the visual styles. And we've seen that in a bunch of the Dark Horse comics. I say bring it on.

What would your ideal AVP story follow?

Colonial Marines answer a distress signal of a trashed ship. Only to discover several Xenomorpha are loose. Eventually the predators reveal themselves and begin hunting the marines. Distress signal was a trap to see how they do against xenomorphs. From there it's a race to stay alive and get off the ship before the Predators or xenomorphs hunt them all down.

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