Title: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 01, 2012, 11:13:31 PM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 01, 2012, 11:13:31 PM
H.R. Giger lent his talent for Prometheus, Ridley Scott wanted to involve him in any way he could but ultimately most of the artwork created by the Swiss artist was left unused due time constrictions. Now you can see a small selection of H.R. Giger’s Prometheus artwork which will be featured in the upcoming Prometheus Blu-ray release this October.
Click below to see the exclusive preview images here first and make sure to pre-order your copy of the Blu-ray to see the full gallery featuring over 20 new images.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:16:38 PM
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:16:38 PM
Whoa...That stuff is really cool. I'd love to see some more detailed versions.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 01, 2012, 11:17:30 PM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 01, 2012, 11:17:30 PM
Quotehttp://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-3.jpg
Erghhh...I'm in love.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Space7Horror on Oct 01, 2012, 11:22:57 PM
Post by: Space7Horror on Oct 01, 2012, 11:22:57 PM
The one in the upper right hand corner looks like the deacon
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:24:19 PM
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:24:19 PM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 01, 2012, 11:17:30 PMQuotehttp://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-3.jpg
Erghhh...I'm in love.
I wonder what that would have been...It looks bit too feminine to be Fifield...?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: hardcorps54 on Oct 01, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
Post by: hardcorps54 on Oct 01, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
reminds me a wee bit of sil from species, still very interesting , you can see where he influenced some of the designs , but like in alien 3 his more elaborate designs were prob too much for ridley
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: StrangeShape on Oct 01, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
Post by: StrangeShape on Oct 01, 2012, 11:28:23 PM
Those are really good. Shame his work wasnt used
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Virgil on Oct 01, 2012, 11:29:24 PM
Post by: Virgil on Oct 01, 2012, 11:29:24 PM
These aren't all that great, IMO. I much prefer what we got.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 01, 2012, 11:37:38 PM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 01, 2012, 11:37:38 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:24:19 PMQuote from: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 01, 2012, 11:17:30 PMQuotehttp://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-3.jpg
Erghhh...I'm in love.
I wonder what that would have been...It looks bit too feminine to be Fifield...?
I think there's a feminine look to his "people" in general. It might be Fifield, because of the tattoo looking things on the forehead. I like the toothed tongue...reminds me of his concepts for Alien 3.
Quote from: Virgil on Oct 01, 2012, 11:29:24 PM
These aren't all that great, IMO. I much prefer what we got.
Agreed - the engineer's biosuit and the hammerpede looked very in-universe...but I think some stuff here, like the penis worm or the Sil-Fifield might've been cool to see on film as well if done right.
I like how the strange baby-like creature on the bottom left looks like it's doing an Alien 1979 crabwalk.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Is the baby like creature the baby Trilobite, I wonder?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Virgil on Oct 01, 2012, 11:46:20 PM
Post by: Virgil on Oct 01, 2012, 11:46:20 PM
MrSpaceJockey - Heh! Funnily enough, I'd love to see what he had in mind for the Engineer! It seems like they approached Giger a little late in the day unfortunately.
I was originally thinking Fifield or the Deacon. It's a pretty crazy concept if it is the trilobite!
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 01, 2012, 11:43:27 PM
Is the baby like creature the baby Trilobite, I wonder?
I was originally thinking Fifield or the Deacon. It's a pretty crazy concept if it is the trilobite!
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 01, 2012, 11:49:28 PM
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 01, 2012, 11:49:28 PM
Waaa! Nice drawings :) I like the alternate head for the Deacon :P
The "baby" is the trilobite, i reckon? :P Or alternate Fifield? Or maybe some "lost" creature from the Jon Spaihts drafts :P
The Hammerpedes look lovely :)
The "baby" is the trilobite, i reckon? :P Or alternate Fifield? Or maybe some "lost" creature from the Jon Spaihts drafts :P
The Hammerpedes look lovely :)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:16:03 AM
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:16:03 AM
They're okay. Not great IMO.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:18:59 AM
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:18:59 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-1.jpg)
Looks very much like the CGI-Fifield from the cutting room floor to me.
Elongated limbs, giant baby-head, weird eyes, ugly teeth, strange crab-like posture/walk, etc..
And what about this?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-2.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-5.jpg)
Looks very much like the CGI-Fifield from the cutting room floor to me.
Elongated limbs, giant baby-head, weird eyes, ugly teeth, strange crab-like posture/walk, etc..
And what about this?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-2.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:22:26 AM
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:22:26 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:18:59 AM
And what about this?
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-2.jpg
I think I saw that guy stocking shelves at Walmart.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 02, 2012, 12:23:04 AM
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 02, 2012, 12:23:04 AM
The tongues on these things remind be a bit of the drill tongue he wanted to use for Alien 3.
I'm guessing the head close up is more Fifield, and the lower one is a facehugger/baby Trilobite.
I'm guessing the head close up is more Fifield, and the lower one is a facehugger/baby Trilobite.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: xii22loop on Oct 02, 2012, 12:23:53 AM
Post by: xii22loop on Oct 02, 2012, 12:23:53 AM
everyone who's saying "they aren't that good, not that great" can't you tell they are still only in that rough sketches form. Had further finished ones been done then they could be properly judged against other concept art from the film.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 12:26:22 AM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 12:26:22 AM
Looks very bat-like. Can't say I like it that much. It's good art, but not too good of a design.
Its hilarious that Giger put a question mark on top of the baby looking alien, like even he has no idea what the hell it is. :D
Shit...this is almost convincing me to get the Blu-ray... D:
Its hilarious that Giger put a question mark on top of the baby looking alien, like even he has no idea what the hell it is. :D
Shit...this is almost convincing me to get the Blu-ray... D:
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:28:25 AM
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:28:25 AM
Quoteeveryone who's saying..Me, basically. Anyway, I just don't think they're that great, artists can lose there talent along the road. Happens to the best of 'em and the ones we hold dear in our hearts. I'm not saying the creatures that we ended up with Prometheus were anything special either. Pretty decent, but sort of underwhelming is a more polite and accurate word that I'd use.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:29:43 AM
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:29:43 AM
I wonder what the order of all of this is;
are these Giger's interpolations of the stuff that the production team did earlier,
or are these the very sketches that the production team based their work on?
Cause some of these aren't that far from what we got on screen.
are these Giger's interpolations of the stuff that the production team did earlier,
or are these the very sketches that the production team based their work on?
Cause some of these aren't that far from what we got on screen.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 12:32:50 AM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 12:32:50 AM
I dunno. Only one that looks like it's in the film is the deacon. The "baby trilo" looks like it might be a mutated Fifield, but it isn't exactly like what we see in the deleted scene.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:34:48 AM
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:34:48 AM
Quote from: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:28:25 AMSo this is overwhelming?Quoteeveryone who's saying..Me, basically. Anyway, I just don't think they're that great, artists can lose there talent along the road. Happens to the best of 'em and the ones we hold dear in our hearts. I'm not saying the creatures that we ended up with Prometheus were anything special either. Pretty decent, but sort of underwhelming is a more polite and accurate word that I'd use.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_8sv9gYsuLwc%2FTIbANxuY4SI%2FAAAAAAAAAVM%2FvX_8ArNJ5PA%2Fs1600%2F374a.png&hash=677838d9f7e3e54235feb17d140e1f2bda78e6ee)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: nendo on Oct 02, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
Post by: nendo on Oct 02, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
Quote from: xii22loop on Oct 02, 2012, 12:23:53 AM
everyone who's saying "they aren't that good, not that great" can't you tell they are still only in that rough sketches form. Had further finished ones been done then they could be properly judged against other concept art from the film.
Well no the drawing themselves are not that great but that's not what people might be refering to. Overall i don't like the designs. The tongues are crap and its just a rehash of his earlier work for some of the drawings. Nothing really stands out as being film quality designs
Quote from: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:34:48 AMQuote from: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:28:25 AMSo this is overwhelming?Quoteeveryone who's saying..Me, basically. Anyway, I just don't think they're that great, artists can lose there talent along the road. Happens to the best of 'em and the ones we hold dear in our hearts. I'm not saying the creatures that we ended up with Prometheus were anything special either. Pretty decent, but sort of underwhelming is a more polite and accurate word that I'd use.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8sv9gYsuLwc/TIbANxuY4SI/AAAAAAAAAVM/vX_8ArNJ5PA/s1600/374a.png
No its not overwhelming. In design or execution but at the time is was enough to get you excited as to what it could be. His recent stuff is very un-original. Even for giger
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 12:41:07 AM
lol LarsVader. Not cool sniffing our server.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:41:23 AM
Post by: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:41:23 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:34:48 AMQuote from: thecaffeinatedone on Oct 02, 2012, 12:28:25 AMSo this is overwhelming?Quoteeveryone who's saying..Me, basically. Anyway, I just don't think they're that great, artists can lose there talent along the road. Happens to the best of 'em and the ones we hold dear in our hearts. I'm not saying the creatures that we ended up with Prometheus were anything special either. Pretty decent, but sort of underwhelming is a more polite and accurate word that I'd use.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8sv9gYsuLwc/TIbANxuY4SI/AAAAAAAAAVM/vX_8ArNJ5PA/s1600/374a.png
Pork chop sandwiches.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 02, 2012, 01:02:54 AM
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 02, 2012, 01:02:54 AM
Anyone willing to pm the full gallery? :P
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 01:05:10 AM
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 01:05:10 AM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Oct 02, 2012, 01:02:54 AMA very good question! :)
Anyone willing to pm the full gallery? :P
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 01:09:30 AM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 01:09:30 AM
My only question: is there anything here really good that hasn't been posted yet?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 01:19:30 AM
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 01:19:30 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 01:09:30 AMThis maybe?
My only question: is there anything here really good that hasn't been posted yet?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger.jpg)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 02, 2012, 01:20:34 AM
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 02, 2012, 01:20:34 AM
Waaaaaaaaa! ;D
That is so Lovecraftian it hurts! :)
That is so Lovecraftian it hurts! :)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:30:30 AM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:30:30 AM
Quote from: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 01:09:30 AM
My only question: is there anything here really good that hasn't been posted yet?
There is indeed. Giger did more creature work and even environmental work for the film.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 02, 2012, 02:03:12 AM
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 02, 2012, 02:03:12 AM
noice! :) ;D
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Jenga on Oct 02, 2012, 02:20:07 AM
Post by: Jenga on Oct 02, 2012, 02:20:07 AM
REGARDING THE BABY CREATURE:
Hi guys, I can say with utmost certainty that the baby looking creature is the mutated Fifield monster. How? Well it's almost exactly like the design shown drawn by both Ridley Scott in a Ridleygram as well as a 3D rendering by Neville page in the Concept Art of Prometheus presentation given at Gnomon School of Visual Effects that I wrote about in this forum thread:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45277.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45277.0)
This is the creature that Neville Page and Ridley Scott referred to as "The Baby" during the concept art phase. This is because they referenced fetuses and babies born with deformities such as encephalitis for the domed head.
Hi guys, I can say with utmost certainty that the baby looking creature is the mutated Fifield monster. How? Well it's almost exactly like the design shown drawn by both Ridley Scott in a Ridleygram as well as a 3D rendering by Neville page in the Concept Art of Prometheus presentation given at Gnomon School of Visual Effects that I wrote about in this forum thread:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45277.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45277.0)
This is the creature that Neville Page and Ridley Scott referred to as "The Baby" during the concept art phase. This is because they referenced fetuses and babies born with deformities such as encephalitis for the domed head.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 02:26:01 AM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 02, 2012, 02:26:01 AM
Quote from: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:30:30 AM
There is indeed. Giger did more creature work and even environmental work for the film.
Hmm...cannot wait to see more...if the documentary is really good as well the special features here really are great.
And the eyeball tentacles....yes.
Quote from: Jenga on Oct 02, 2012, 02:20:07 AM
REGARDING THE BABY CREATURE:
Hi guys, I can say with utmost certainty that the baby looking creature is the mutated Fifield monster. How? Well it's almost exactly like the design shown drawn by both Ridley Scott in a Ridleygram as well as a 3D rendering by Neville page in the Concept Art of Prometheus presentation given at Gnomon School of Visual Effects that I wrote about in this forum thread:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45277.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=45277.0)
This is the creature that Neville Page and Ridley Scott referred to as "The Baby" during the concept art phase. This is because they referenced fetuses and babies born with deformities such as encephalitis for the domed head.
Agreed. It like the deacon, and even moreso, Fifield. The strange posture echoes the strange position they find Fifield in outside the loading ramp.
Anyone able to translate some of the notes? Not sure if it's messy handwriting or a different language.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 02, 2012, 02:52:13 AM
Post by: whiterabbit on Oct 02, 2012, 02:52:13 AM
They weren't that good. Still I wanted more horror in the film.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 02, 2012, 03:31:40 AM
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 02, 2012, 03:31:40 AM
Just sketches, maybe we will have a Prometheus collection where he'll actually make a series of airbrush paintings like he did for Giger's Alien and Necronomicon.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: fiveways on Oct 02, 2012, 04:11:58 AM
Post by: fiveways on Oct 02, 2012, 04:11:58 AM
Better then what 99% of this community has come up with, which is mostly bitching and moaning.
I left one percent for the legitimate good fan art that floats around here.
I left one percent for the legitimate good fan art that floats around here.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Oct 02, 2012, 05:25:08 AM
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Oct 02, 2012, 05:25:08 AM
Top row middle as well as the dude with the spike in his mouth needs to be in the sequel.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 06:26:24 AM
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 06:26:24 AM
Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 02, 2012, 03:31:40 AMI would love that, but I am afraid he retired from airbrushing long ago.
Just sketches, maybe we will have a Prometheus collection where he'll actually make a series of airbrush paintings like he did for Giger's Alien and Necronomicon.
And...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-1.jpg)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/blu-44.jpg)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Oct 02, 2012, 06:29:45 AM
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Oct 02, 2012, 06:29:45 AM
That looks good, actually. It would have been terrifying to see the baby version scuttling around the temple, then have the full grown adult show up outside Prometheus.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 10:28:50 AM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 10:28:50 AM
I'm very impressed by the ideas in Giger's drawings and by Giger's drawings
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Stratocaster on Oct 02, 2012, 11:57:08 AM
Post by: Stratocaster on Oct 02, 2012, 11:57:08 AM
Gigers drawings are terrible. I think he is like breasts on a log now. :(
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 01:06:44 PM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: LarsVader on Oct 02, 2012, 12:29:43 AM
I wonder what the order of all of this is;
are these Giger's interpolations of the stuff that the production team did earlier,
or are these the very sketches that the production team based their work on?
Cause some of these aren't that far from what we got on screen.
Well the dates given seem quite interesting, useless information unless we knew the dates when they did their work. The drawings all seem to date back to the first half of 2011, well, at the moment I can see that the alien life forms (1,8,12 & 13 ) posted were done in late February, the Species like humanoid (21) in March and the three Deck Elements (22,24 & 27) were all drawn in April.
I'm noticing the word Wasserfall on the Deck Element with the facehugger type creature, maybe it was supposed to have flowing water as a font?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:39:12 PM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:39:12 PM
According to the documentary they are interpolations from earlier stuff. Ridley showed Giger all they got in an attempt to impress him and get his "approval". They show a few moments from this meeting in the Bluray.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:39:12 PM
According to the documentary they are interpolations from earlier stuff. Ridley showed Giger all they got in an attempt to impress him and get his "approval". They show a few moments from this meeting in the Bluray.
Well, he seemed to be polite about what they created on the set of Poltergeist II until he got home. But it's a different story here
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 01:50:12 PM
Ridley mentions that Giger brought some "interesting" ideas but that he had to move on as there was "no time". Also that Ridley's impression was that Giger was kinda amazed by how fast things were moving with the film.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 02:04:17 PM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 02:04:17 PM
Looking at the sort of exploration that some of us expected Ridley to accomplish and probably did but seemed to many have turn up a blank in the movie and looking at the modern day movie business, I suppose we should probably be thankful for the movie that we got. It might even be the best scifi movie I've seen and had time to wonder about in a good few years, which might not be saying a lot.
I'm very glad that Giger's work has been shared because it's actually given me something to actually dream about in relation to the Prometheus movie
I'm very glad that Giger's work has been shared because it's actually given me something to actually dream about in relation to the Prometheus movie
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Oct 02, 2012, 02:16:29 PM
Post by: ThisBethesdaSea on Oct 02, 2012, 02:16:29 PM
wmmm (Jaime from Facebook), I want to hear your detailed thoughts about Prometheus.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 02, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Oct 02, 2012, 02:16:29 PM
wmmm (Jaime from Facebook), I want to hear your detailed thoughts about Prometheus.
Well, it's been quite a conversation killer that's for sure. Maybe I'll have a little more to think about after the Blu-Ray set comes out if ever I get the opportunity to watch it.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 06:35:31 PM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 02, 2012, 06:35:31 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FA4OXswyCAAEEbdq.jpg&hash=fd217c87a10f95b57373a983d9864fa755ada73c)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: DaddyYautja on Oct 02, 2012, 06:59:01 PM
Post by: DaddyYautja on Oct 02, 2012, 06:59:01 PM
That stuff should have been used.
But, again, this was, i guess, "too close" to the original for what they wanted to do.
But, again, this was, i guess, "too close" to the original for what they wanted to do.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: geiger167 on Oct 02, 2012, 10:13:29 PM
Post by: geiger167 on Oct 02, 2012, 10:13:29 PM
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Quote from: acrediblesource on Oct 02, 2012, 03:31:40 AMHe doesn't paint anymore so not gonna happen, and why would he waste any more time on a film they clearly had very little intention of using his designs on ? (I like the film by by the way, but it's Giger-lite, but he got a pay check so good for him)
Just sketches, maybe we will have a Prometheus collection where he'll actually make a series of airbrush paintings like he did for Giger's Alien and Necronomicon.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Negatronix on Oct 02, 2012, 10:24:10 PM
Post by: Negatronix on Oct 02, 2012, 10:24:10 PM
What a joke. Horrible. There is a serious lack of form in any of that. They should have just stuck with Gigers Alien book, his biomechanoid beings, and pulled from his darker religious works for symbolism, and some of his environment paintings for the architecture.. The film would have had far more meat to chew on.
What they chose works for what it is, and I hate that Im so torn, and bash more than I praise. I guess I expected more in every department.. Hopefully next time.
What they chose works for what it is, and I hate that Im so torn, and bash more than I praise. I guess I expected more in every department.. Hopefully next time.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 03, 2012, 12:43:54 AM
Post by: LarsVader on Oct 03, 2012, 12:43:54 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FA4OXswyCAAEEbdq.jpg%3Alarge&hash=209dcf4f4c42efa5189596eed0b7cf469daff762)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4PgMhGCcAE77Sp.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A4PgMhGCcAE77Sp.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: OmegaZilla on Oct 03, 2012, 05:25:35 AM
Post by: OmegaZilla on Oct 03, 2012, 05:25:35 AM
Now that's what I'm f**king talking about. Love that first one.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 03, 2012, 05:46:38 AM
Post by: Blacklabel on Oct 03, 2012, 05:46:38 AM
Quote from: LarsVader on Oct 03, 2012, 12:43:54 AM
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...Giger sure made the Alien even more "sexual" :laugh:
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ChrisPachi on Oct 03, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
Post by: ChrisPachi on Oct 03, 2012, 09:55:33 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-21.jpg)
I might just be being biased, but these have far more of the kind of exotic and bizarre that we have come to expect from creatures in this universe. The deacon just looks like another dime a dozen monster by comparison IMO.
I might just be being biased, but these have far more of the kind of exotic and bizarre that we have come to expect from creatures in this universe. The deacon just looks like another dime a dozen monster by comparison IMO.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Oct 03, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
Post by: SpeedyMaxx on Oct 03, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
I personally think that sketch is too close to the alien.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
Post by: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
It appears that the much critisised Deacon head shape originated with Giger.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: The Necronoir on Oct 03, 2012, 11:18:34 AM
Post by: The Necronoir on Oct 03, 2012, 11:18:34 AM
Quote from: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 11:10:13 AMI don't think the shape has been the subject of criticism, so much as the featureless and fleshy nature of it.
It appears that the much critisised Deacon head shape originated with Giger.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 03, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 03, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
Quote from: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 11:10:13 AM
It appears that the much critisised Deacon head shape originated with Giger.
But alas which came first, the design idea or giger's concept?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
Post by: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
Who can say? But most of the finished designs take a lot of their leads from Giger, whether it be early pre-production stuff on ALIEN or Dune, so even if Giger only did a few sketches that Ridley found 'interesting' I'd be surprised if that didn't act as a springboard to the other artists. As far as I can see Gigers sketches are the earliest to feature a pointy head, a lot of the stuff by others in the early design stages are more faithful to the original alien.
Despite all the creatures having a softer more organic feel there's a healthy respect for Giger in the finished creatures, and the Engineer is practically Gigers' generic 'human' victim.
Despite all the creatures having a softer more organic feel there's a healthy respect for Giger in the finished creatures, and the Engineer is practically Gigers' generic 'human' victim.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 03, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 03, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-1.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nTWXRxtbukI/UGwtKQ0y9KI/AAAAAAAAEIE/W9C7ysfam2E/s600/fawnalien.jpg)
I just noticed this illustration amongst the images in the shot of Arthur Max inspecting the illustrations. And also just under Arthur Max's elbow is The Long Tomorrow
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-32cvepud0Vo/UGw38BJ3EhI/AAAAAAAAEIk/oOkpbMwon4Y/s600/creaturepanorama.jpg)
change the s value from s600 to s1600 for full size image of wall of illustrations. I used Photoshop to sew and blend the frames of that shot together.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nTWXRxtbukI/UGwtKQ0y9KI/AAAAAAAAEIE/W9C7ysfam2E/s600/fawnalien.jpg)
I just noticed this illustration amongst the images in the shot of Arthur Max inspecting the illustrations. And also just under Arthur Max's elbow is The Long Tomorrow
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-32cvepud0Vo/UGw38BJ3EhI/AAAAAAAAEIk/oOkpbMwon4Y/s600/creaturepanorama.jpg)
change the s value from s600 to s1600 for full size image of wall of illustrations. I used Photoshop to sew and blend the frames of that shot together.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Darth Vile on Oct 03, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
Post by: Darth Vile on Oct 03, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
Quote from: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 12:00:10 PM
Who can say? But most of the finished designs take a lot of their leads from Giger, whether it be early pre-production stuff on ALIEN or Dune, so even if Giger only did a few sketches that Ridley found 'interesting' I'd be surprised if that didn't act as a springboard to the other artists. As far as I can see Gigers sketches are the earliest to feature a pointy head, a lot of the stuff by others in the early design stages are more faithful to the original alien.
Despite all the creatures having a softer more organic feel there's a healthy respect for Giger in the finished creatures, and the Engineer is practically Gigers' generic 'human' victim.
Yes - completely agree. Behind all the design/concepts comes a strong sense of Giger's work. He continues to heavely influence that universe, albeit in a more passive way.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ChrisPachi on Oct 03, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
Post by: ChrisPachi on Oct 03, 2012, 01:35:48 PM
Quote from: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 12:00:10 PM...so even if Giger only did a few sketches that Ridley found 'interesting' I'd be surprised if that didn't act as a springboard to the other artists.A bit too much springing if you ask me - I mean, just look at it...
Spoiler
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LOOK AT IT!
:o
LOOK AT IT!
:o
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There is no Giger here.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Stratocaster on Oct 03, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
Post by: Stratocaster on Oct 03, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
Why are we posting the creatures of Hellboy?
:D
:D
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ChrisPachi on Oct 03, 2012, 02:02:42 PM
Post by: ChrisPachi on Oct 03, 2012, 02:02:42 PM
Quote from: Stratocaster on Oct 03, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
Why are we posting the creatures of Hellboy?
:D
Because apparently some people can't tell the difference. ;)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Stratocaster on Oct 03, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Post by: Stratocaster on Oct 03, 2012, 02:24:04 PM
Have you even seen Hellboy? There is no differance. ::)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: OmegaZilla on Oct 03, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
Post by: OmegaZilla on Oct 03, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
There is. Everything from HellBoy is much better. Deacon's not even remotely as threatening and crafted of a design as Sammael, the Ogdru Jahad or the Behemoth are.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
Quote from: wmmvrrvrrmm on Oct 03, 2012, 12:21:50 PM
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Giger-1.jpg
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nTWXRxtbukI/UGwtKQ0y9KI/AAAAAAAAEIE/W9C7ysfam2E/s600/fawnalien.jpg
I just noticed this illustration amongst the images in the shot of Arthur Max inspecting the illustrations. And also just under Arthur Max's elbow is The Long Tomorrow
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-32cvepud0Vo/UGw38BJ3EhI/AAAAAAAAEIk/oOkpbMwon4Y/s600/creaturepanorama.jpg
change the s value from s600 to s1600 for full size image of wall of illustrations. I used Photoshop to sew and blend the frames of that shot together.
That Babyhead concept piece is from Carlos Huante. The creature was already concepted before Giger did his take. In the Bluray you can even see how Ridley presents Giger with his own sketches of the creature.
As I mentioned earlier, Ridley showed Giger all they had created in an attempt to impress him and get his "approval". The Deacon, Fifield creature, hammerpede, etc... were already there.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: OmegaZilla on Oct 03, 2012, 02:33:09 PM
Post by: OmegaZilla on Oct 03, 2012, 02:33:09 PM
Why did he sketch the Deacon concepts?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 02:36:36 PM
I guess Ridley wanted to see his ideas for the creature.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Kol on Oct 03, 2012, 03:17:01 PM
Post by: Kol on Oct 03, 2012, 03:17:01 PM
poor giger. doing all the flights for nothin.... :'(
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Dirty Harry on Oct 03, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
Post by: Dirty Harry on Oct 03, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
Giger always is victim of "time and budget" problems. :'(
The Deacon sucks!
The Deacon sucks!
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Snowdog on Oct 03, 2012, 04:51:06 PM
Post by: Snowdog on Oct 03, 2012, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: Dirty Harry on Oct 03, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
Giger always is victim of "time and budget" problems. :'(
The Deacon sucks!
yet again..... Just like with alien3......
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Oct 03, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
Post by: Bjørn Half-hand on Oct 03, 2012, 05:37:19 PM
Would like to see detailed colour 'completed' versions of these sketches.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 05:53:36 PM
Post by: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 05:53:36 PM
Spoiler
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Post by: Gash on Oct 03, 2012, 06:56:34 PM
Even wearing black in deference to Giger. :)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 03, 2012, 08:24:13 PM
Post by: MrSpaceJockey on Oct 03, 2012, 08:24:13 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 05:53:36 PMSpoiler
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Long time no see.
Was the first thing I thought of when I read "no time." Just like ADI. Hopefully that didn't bring up any bad memories for Geegs.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Snowdog on Oct 03, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
Post by: Snowdog on Oct 03, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
God i hope not ! I mean getting flushed away a second time by fox just because they want to rush a movie... Giger deserves to work on an 'alien' movie again.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 03, 2012, 11:02:17 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 03, 2012, 11:02:17 PM
DAMN IT FOX THEY AIN'T GETTING ANY YOUNGER!!!!!
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ShadowPred on Oct 03, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Oct 03, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 05:53:36 PMSpoiler
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Where the hell is Sweeps?! He needs to caption this image right away!
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: zuzuki on Oct 04, 2012, 11:41:31 PM
Post by: zuzuki on Oct 04, 2012, 11:41:31 PM
Ridley- ''see, we have this squid with a lot of mouths and we made it look like vaginas''
Giger- ''yeah, yeah, graulisch''
or
Ridley- ''i don't want to say aliens, but aliens''
Giger- ''yeah,yeah, with a penis for a head''
Giger- ''yeah, yeah, graulisch''
or
Ridley- ''i don't want to say aliens, but aliens''
Giger- ''yeah,yeah, with a penis for a head''
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Magegg on Oct 05, 2012, 03:41:38 PM
Post by: Magegg on Oct 05, 2012, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: Kol on Oct 03, 2012, 03:17:01 PMpoor giger. doing all the flights for nothin.... :'(Well, it doesn't seem like he put much effort on those drawings.
I agree with the idea of making the aesthetycs a little different from Giger's (for example, including very little 'techno-organic' stuff), I mean, this is called 'Prometheus', not 'Alien 0' or whatever, they wanted to keep it fresh and distinct at least on a visual level, not simply making a sequel/entire reprise of the whole Alien universe and re-use the same visual concept and settings once again.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 05, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
Post by: acrediblesource on Oct 05, 2012, 05:12:48 PM
hrrmmm, id be surprised if he released a new book, he hasn't done so for a while now.
Its a shame, they didn't work so closely together on this one as they did before but thats the price you pay for stardom and recognition. Who knows maybe there is something devious in the works. Monster movies are so lame without proper vision.
Its a shame, they didn't work so closely together on this one as they did before but thats the price you pay for stardom and recognition. Who knows maybe there is something devious in the works. Monster movies are so lame without proper vision.
Quote from: Magegg on Oct 05, 2012, 03:41:38 PMQuote from: Kol on Oct 03, 2012, 03:17:01 PMpoor giger. doing all the flights for nothin.... :'(Well, it doesn't seem like he put much effort on those drawings.
I agree with the idea of making the aesthetycs a little different from Giger's (for example, including very little 'techno-organic' stuff), I mean, this is called 'Prometheus', not 'Alien 0' or whatever, they wanted to keep it fresh and distinct at least on a visual level, not simply making a sequel/entire reprise of the whole Alien universe and re-use the same visual concept and settings once again.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: CarrotCake on Oct 16, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
Post by: CarrotCake on Oct 16, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF1cL6J8xNo# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF1cL6J8xNo#)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 16, 2012, 06:22:36 PM
Post by: Valaquen on Oct 16, 2012, 06:22:36 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Oct 05, 2012, 03:41:38 PMThey were sketches pretty much done at the meet. Have you seen any of Giger's preliminary sketches for Alien? The look exactly the same. He doesn't churn out a painting every time he doodles.Quote from: Kol on Oct 03, 2012, 03:17:01 PMpoor giger. doing all the flights for nothin.... :'(Well, it doesn't seem like he put much effort on those drawings.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Bum Burster on Oct 17, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
Post by: Bum Burster on Oct 17, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
Quote from: Dirty Harry on Oct 03, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
Giger always is victim of "time and budget" problems. :'(
The Deacon sucks!
It makes complete sense to me. Not only it's the first intermediate stage between the chtulhu-reptiloids and humanoids, but that thing is young. If the Aliens series has told us anything, the babies shed their skin when they grow, and the adult is quite radically different. Even the most advanced birth in ALIEN 3 showed us an infant which was very thin and skinny.
I believe it sticks with the slick aspect of the tech and even the ship. All is clean inside the ship, while the derelict's very structure in ALIEN has been corrupted, like if the xenomorph almost grew out of the biomechanoid tech.
In Prometheus, we weren't there yet.
The contamination, obviously pre-programmed to build serpentine lifeforms, went straight into humanoids.
Now, if the Engineers' tech is somehow alive or something along that, then the corruption while have to get there first to capture the Giger aspect of it.
So we'll get the bony facehuggers and the eggs.
The problem, I guess, is that too many fans wanted the bridge to be closed immediately.
I think it's a given in ALIEN that the generational mutation has already been established as quick enough, so much that any movie sequel to Prometheus could already show us the next step, much closer to the Giger design.
This movie requires patience. Besides, many would have bitched about the even greater fan service if we already had plenty of quasi-xenos all over the movie.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 15, 2013, 12:17:25 PM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 15, 2013, 12:17:25 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Oct 03, 2012, 02:30:34 PM
That Babyhead concept piece is from Carlos Huante. The creature was already concepted before Giger did his take. In the Bluray you can even see how Ridley presents Giger with his own sketches of the creature.
I see now, it's been hanging around since his concept design work under ILM for Steven Spielberg's War Of The Worlds.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Mar 15, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
Post by: ikarop on Mar 15, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: OmegaZilla on Mar 15, 2013, 07:15:20 PM
Post by: OmegaZilla on Mar 15, 2013, 07:15:20 PM
Ikarop, you're a bright star.
What are the 8th and 11th? Deacon?
What are the 8th and 11th? Deacon?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ikarop on Mar 15, 2013, 07:23:33 PM
Post by: ikarop on Mar 15, 2013, 07:23:33 PM
8th possibly. 11th looks more like the head of his hammerpede/sexburster.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 15, 2013, 07:28:54 PM
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 15, 2013, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 15, 2013, 07:23:33 PM
8th possibly. 11th looks more like the head of his hammerpede/sexburster.
Thanks for these, ikarop!
I really like the look, and the perspective view for #8. So much better (IMHO) than what we got.
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: bobby brown on Mar 15, 2013, 07:31:21 PM
Post by: bobby brown on Mar 15, 2013, 07:31:21 PM
To be honest, most of them look like childrens drawings.
it appears giger have not exercised his artistic skills over the years.
it appears giger have not exercised his artistic skills over the years.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: OmegaZilla on Mar 15, 2013, 07:38:12 PM
Post by: OmegaZilla on Mar 15, 2013, 07:38:12 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 15, 2013, 07:23:33 PMThanks man. Yeah, looks like it.
8th possibly. 11th looks more like the head of his hammerpede/sexburster.
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 15, 2013, 07:28:54 PMIndeed, this and the 7th drawing are my favourites.
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 15, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 15, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: bobby brown on Mar 15, 2013, 07:31:21 PM
To be honest, most of them look like childrens drawings.
it appears giger have not exercised his artistic skills over the years.
I don't know, Bobby...I am pretty sure these are "charcoal drawings", which are made in a very quick, almost stream of consciousness fashion, and with broad strokes. It is the style.
Once a particular sketch is "approved", he would then go on to make a more detailed and realistic study/drawing or painting.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 16, 2013, 11:58:50 AM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 16, 2013, 11:58:50 AM
I suppose the 9th one labeled No 6 might be a version of the Babyhead.
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 16, 2013, 12:02:54 PM
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 16, 2013, 12:02:54 PM
So that's a Giger sketch of a Huante monster?
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 16, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
Post by: wmmvrrvrrmm on Mar 16, 2013, 12:04:24 PM
well, I think he was given the concept to work with by Ridley. It's either that or something less describable wandering around the caves
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: LarsVader on Mar 16, 2013, 03:30:10 PM
Post by: LarsVader on Mar 16, 2013, 03:30:10 PM
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Magegg on Mar 16, 2013, 04:02:51 PM
Post by: Magegg on Mar 16, 2013, 04:02:51 PM
Very subpar art for being Giger. Like I said before, he didn't seem to put much effort on those concept arts.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 16, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 16, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: Magegg on Mar 16, 2013, 04:02:51 PMIt's not concept art, it's a preliminary doodle, like his early preliminary work on Alien. Here's a sketch of the derelict, for example:
Very subpar art for being Giger. Like I said before, he didn't seem to put much effort on those concept arts.
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: genocyber on Mar 16, 2013, 04:32:30 PM
Post by: genocyber on Mar 16, 2013, 04:32:30 PM
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Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ShadowPred on Mar 16, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
Post by: ShadowPred on Mar 16, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
Quote from: bobby brown on Mar 15, 2013, 07:31:21 PM
To be honest, most of them look like childrens drawings.
"It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child."
― Pablo Picasso
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 16, 2013, 10:01:27 PM
Post by: Deuterium on Mar 16, 2013, 10:01:27 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 16, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
It's not concept art, it's a preliminary doodle, like his early preliminary work on Alien. Here's a sketch of the derelict, for example:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/Izzys88/374c_zps889f7d8a.png
Hi, Valaquen...aren't we saying the same thing? ;) :)
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 15, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
I don't know, Bobby...I am pretty sure these are "charcoal drawings", which are made in a very quick, almost stream of consciousness fashion, and with broad strokes. It is the style.
Once a particular sketch is "approved", he would then go on to make a more detailed and realistic study/drawing or painting.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Gilfryd on Mar 16, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
Post by: Gilfryd on Mar 16, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
One of the things that made Alien work so well was Giger doing all the alien stuff and Cobb and Foss on the human parts. There was a clear vision and distinction between the two. They felt like completely different worlds totally alien from one another. With Prometheus there was such a mishmash of ideas that it looks like any other big sci-fi movie of the past few years.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Darth Vile on Mar 17, 2013, 07:34:03 AM
Post by: Darth Vile on Mar 17, 2013, 07:34:03 AM
Quote from: Gilfryd on Mar 16, 2013, 10:35:29 PMI agree - brilliant design. Lightning in a bottle really... which is why Alien endures still. However, I can't hold that against Prometheus. The alien stuff, be it the engineers, the temple etc. were clearly Giger influenced and Cobb and Foss influences were all over the human tech stuff.
One of the things that made Alien work so well was Giger doing all the alien stuff and Cobb and Foss on the human parts. There was a clear vision and distinction between the two. They felt like completely different worlds totally alien from one another. With Prometheus there was such a mishmash of ideas that it looks like any other big sci-fi movie of the past few years.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: OpenMaw on Mar 17, 2013, 08:53:32 AM
Post by: OpenMaw on Mar 17, 2013, 08:53:32 AM
The problem for me visually will always be that they sapped out the specific Gigerian designs of the alien related stuff and made it more techish. I get why. I just really think it was a bad move. There were so many wondrous possibilities inside Giger's very specific style that are lost when you... Generalize the designs.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Blacklabel on Mar 17, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
Post by: Blacklabel on Mar 17, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
Here's hoping some of these designs end up in the sequel ;)
Just bring Giger in earlier in the production, ok? Shouldnt be too hard.
Just bring Giger in earlier in the production, ok? Shouldnt be too hard.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 17, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
Post by: Valaquen on Mar 17, 2013, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 16, 2013, 10:01:27 PMExactly 8)Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 16, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
It's not concept art, it's a preliminary doodle, like his early preliminary work on Alien. Here's a sketch of the derelict, for example:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m191/Izzys88/374c_zps889f7d8a.png
Hi, Valaquen...aren't we saying the same thing? ;) :)Quote from: Deuterium on Mar 15, 2013, 07:39:34 PM
I don't know, Bobby...I am pretty sure these are "charcoal drawings", which are made in a very quick, almost stream of consciousness fashion, and with broad strokes. It is the style.
Once a particular sketch is "approved", he would then go on to make a more detailed and realistic study/drawing or painting.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Darth Vile on Mar 17, 2013, 03:17:29 PM
Post by: Darth Vile on Mar 17, 2013, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: Blacklabel on Mar 17, 2013, 11:56:36 AMAs much as I like Giger's work, I don't see anything in the sketches which leap out as 'brilliant'. There are some that are reminiscent of Alien and some of Species, which is fine, but nothing that makes me think "wow... they should have used that".
Here's hoping some of these designs end up in the sequel ;)
Just bring Giger in earlier in the production, ok? Shouldnt be too hard.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Blacklabel on Mar 17, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Post by: Blacklabel on Mar 17, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ#)
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: bobby brown on Mar 18, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
Post by: bobby brown on Mar 18, 2013, 12:23:39 PM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Mar 17, 2013, 03:17:29 PMQuote from: Blacklabel on Mar 17, 2013, 11:56:36 AMAs much as I like Giger's work, I don't see anything in the sketches which leap out as 'brilliant'. There are some that are reminiscent of Alien and some of Species, which is fine, but nothing that makes me think "wow... they should have used that".
Here's hoping some of these designs end up in the sequel ;)
Just bring Giger in earlier in the production, ok? Shouldnt be too hard.
^This ya´ll.
People seem to praise giger for sake of prasing giger.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2013, 01:53:48 AM
Post by: ChrisPachi on Mar 19, 2013, 01:53:48 AM
Quote from: Darth Vile on Mar 17, 2013, 03:17:29 PMAs much as I like Giger's work, I don't see anything in the sketches which leap out as 'brilliant'.Agreed, but it's impossible to know what might of been considering that Giger didn't get a decent run at it. All we have are quick sketches that look like they were done on the back of a napkin.
Quote from: bobby brown on Mar 18, 2013, 12:23:39 PMPeople seem to praise giger for sake of prasing giger.No, people praise Giger because of this...
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...and this...
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That doesn't make him the only viable option though - some of Huante's stuff is excellent.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: bobby brown on Mar 19, 2013, 10:15:26 AM
Post by: bobby brown on Mar 19, 2013, 10:15:26 AM
Dont get me wrong, I love that "sh*t to!!!! :o
But thats was quite a while ago.
But thats was quite a while ago.
Title: Re: Prometheus H.R. Giger Artwork Preview
Post by: Alien³ on Mar 20, 2013, 12:40:14 PM
Post by: Alien³ on Mar 20, 2013, 12:40:14 PM
Quote from: Gilfryd on Mar 16, 2013, 10:35:29 PM
With Prometheus there was such a mishmash of ideas that it looks like any other big sci-fi movie of the past few years.
I disagree.
Prometheus looked way better than a lot of modern sci-fi movies, the only one I can think of that may hold some resemblance to it is Avatar, what with the holograms n' all. The POV camera shots in Prometheus weren't amazing and looked alittle sterile, I admit, but that's about it. Prommy looked all fresh and new, yet kept the style of the Alien universe we all know and love.