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Title: Predator: The Archive
Post by: felix on Jul 11, 2020, 10:29:23 AM
From Titan Books press release.
https://media.titanbooks.com/rights/guides/files/spring_2020_non_fiction_rights_guide_titan.pdf

PREDATOR: THE ARCHIVE
MATT SINGER
NOVEMBER 2020, 176PP

324 x 253mm, HB £35.00, full colour throughout

Monster, alien, warrior – the Predator is a cinematic creature unlike any other.
From Predator, Predator 2, and Predators to the recent The Predator, these four
films have withstood the test of time and become a cultural phenomenon with a
perfect balance of action, horror, and comedy.
Predator: The Archive is the first comprehensive book on all four Predator films, a
celebration of the this entertaining and highly energetic franchise, exploring the
creation process of all the films in exhaustive and exclusive detail. This must-have
retrospective includes brand-new interviews with the casts and crews whose
creativity and vision birthed a legend. Full to the brim with behind-the-scenes
photography, early concept art and storyboards, terrifying weapons and costumes,
unused ideas, and deleted scenes, this is the ultimate guide not only for Predator
fans, but for all cinema and science fiction lovers too.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Kradan on Jul 11, 2020, 10:36:46 AM
Huh
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: felix on Jul 11, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
Probably delayed to 2021.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 12:08:20 PM
FINALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY!!!!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

Finally the Predator franchise gets a behind-the-scenes book. It's about damn time!!!

Quote from: felix on Jul 11, 2020, 10:48:04 AM
Probably delayed to 2021.

I hope not!  It's clearly timed with Predator 2's 30th Anniversary.

But please Titan. Please Matt Singer. Please DO NOT stick with that cover, an ADI Predator from The Predator, the most maligned film in the franchise?  Use what is consistently praised by all Predator fans as the best.  Use a Stan Winston creation for heaven's sake!

(https://i.ibb.co/v3QyX7Z/Screenshot-20200711-075558-Drive.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/Xz0vLbw/IMG-20190321-130005.jpg)


Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 12:26:37 PM
I knew Voodoo wouldn't be happy with their choice of cover Predator! :laugh:

But yes, this is great! Definitely going to have to keep an eye out for that. A comprehensive behind-the-scenes look at all the Predator films (minus AVP/R) is something I'd certainly be down for picking up. Hopefully the page count will be enough to go over all the films in sufficient detail. It seems like it could be a little light for four films compared to J.W. Rinzler's Making of Alien/Aliens books with almost twice the amount for one film each.

Have there really even been many big behind-the-scenes books for the Predator films? I remember there being one for The Predator, but I don't think Predators ever got one (which was a disappointment as I loved some of that Super Predator concept art and always wanted to see more), and I can't recall anything for the first two either. But that's exactly why this announcement is so welcome!
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jul 11, 2020, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 12:26:37 PM
I knew Voodoo wouldn't be happy with their choice of cover Predator! :laugh:

But yes, this is great! Definitely going to have to keep an eye out for that. A comprehensive behind-the-scenes look at all the Predator films (minus AVP/R) is something I'd certainly be down for picking up. Hopefully the page count will be enough to go over all the films in sufficient detail. It seems like it could be a little light for four films compared to J.W. Rinzler's Making of Alien/Aliens books with almost twice the amount for one film each.

Have there really even been many big behind-the-scenes books for the Predator films? I remember there being one for The Predator, but I don't think Predators ever got one (which was a disappointment as I loved some of that Super Predator concept art and always wanted to see more), and I can't recall anything for the first two either. But that's exactly why this announcement is so welcome!

Definitely going to be adding this to my collection when I can.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 11, 2020, 12:44:19 PM
Off topic, but this listing alerted me to the book on The Fly that I'm absolutely going to want now.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 11, 2020, 01:08:20 PM
Hopefully it's better than Alien: The Archive.

They did pick the best ADI predator at least. But really Titan? Quit trolling us and put a Winston predator on that cover.

Titan always trolling fans with their covers.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jul 11, 2020, 01:41:33 PM
They probably could've gone with a more interesting or striking cover choice. The Predator's book had a great cover having the Predator's armor be shiny to catch the reader's eye. Here it's just a face and just a close up from the promo photos.



Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
That makes me wonder if this one will have anything at all on the Emissaries, since I heard there was nothing shown of them in The Predator's book. That'll probably be the case again here, but it'd be nice if every film's section was as comprehensive as possible.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jul 11, 2020, 01:54:03 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 01:45:39 PM
That makes me wonder if this one will have anything at all on the Emissaries, since I heard there was nothing shown of them in The Predator's book. That'll probably be the case again here, but it'd be nice if every film's section was as comprehensive as possible.

You mean like The Crystal Lake Memories of Predator books? That'd be awesome. Would love to see info about the Emissaries.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Darkness on Jul 11, 2020, 02:08:17 PM
Very interesting, I don't think we really get Predator only stuff like this like we do for Alien.

Quote from: 426Buddy on Jul 11, 2020, 01:08:20 PM
Hopefully it's better than Alien: The Archive

I really liked Alien The Archive. Had a lot of interesting things in there.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: 426Buddy on Jul 11, 2020, 02:13:03 PM
I didn't uncover anything in Alien the Archive that hadn't been covered better and more in depth elsewhere.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 02:16:12 PM
Quote from: Kailem on Jul 11, 2020, 12:26:37 PM
I knew Voodoo wouldn't be happy with their choice of cover Predator! :laugh:

But yes, this is great! Definitely going to have to keep an eye out for that. A comprehensive behind-the-scenes look at all the Predator films (minus AVP/R) is something I'd certainly be down for picking up. Hopefully the page count will be enough to go over all the films in sufficient detail. It seems like it could be a little light for four films compared to J.W. Rinzler's Making of Alien/Aliens books with almost twice the amount for one film each.

Yeah, I noticed that. 172 pages feels a bit light for four films. But at this point I'm just grateful for all 172.  Except the cover.  ;)

QuoteHave there really even been many big behind-the-scenes books for the Predator films? I remember there being one for The Predator, but I don't think Predators ever got one (which was a disappointment as I loved some of that Super Predator concept art and always wanted to see more), and I can't recall anything for the first two either. But that's exactly why this announcement is so welcome!

Yep, just The Predator 2018 got the making-of book treatment. And I've never understood why. Fox saw Predator 1987's 30th Anniversary worthy of a multi-million Restoration / 3D conversion, but no book? Ever? Until Predator 2's 30th? Strange.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Joda on Jul 11, 2020, 02:20:04 PM
 :o

Wait. There's a Fly book coming too?!
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: PAS Spinelli on Jul 11, 2020, 02:26:05 PM
God I hate this Predator design so much

It's like the original but ugly and so much worse
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Kradan on Jul 11, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 12:08:20 PM
But please Titan. Please Matt Singer. Please DO NOT stick with that cover, an ADI Predator from The Predator, the most maligned overhated film in the franchise?  Use what is consistently praised by all Predator fans Voodoo as the best.  Use a Stan Winston creation for heaven's sake!

Fixed. You welcome  :D
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 03:03:20 PM
 :P
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 11, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: Joda on Jul 11, 2020, 02:20:04 PM
Wait. There's a Fly book coming too?!

That's the part that really excited me in there.  :D
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 03:40:38 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Jul 11, 2020, 03:28:48 PM
Quote from: Joda on Jul 11, 2020, 02:20:04 PM
Wait. There's a Fly book coming too?!

That's the part that really excited me in there.  :D

What?!

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/CPJIuTa8kz1MQ/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Lost_Hunter on Jul 11, 2020, 06:28:58 PM
Here's hoping ADI can finally explain how and why they compromised such an iconic lifelike design. ADI Duh Predator on the cover? Not good enough.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 06:48:55 PM
I fixed it for them:

(https://i.ibb.co/vchs724/Screenshot-20200711-075558-Drive.png)
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Kradan on Jul 11, 2020, 07:03:24 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/l2Je9Jj06b7Pk9R1m/200.gif)
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jul 11, 2020, 07:06:46 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 06:48:55 PM
I fixed it for them:

(https://i.ibb.co/vchs724/Screenshot-20200711-075558-Drive.png)

Okay just take my money.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Wysps on Jul 11, 2020, 07:16:08 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jul 11, 2020, 06:48:55 PM
I fixed it for them:

(https://i.ibb.co/vchs724/Screenshot-20200711-075558-Drive.png)

The One and Only. I like the description - seems interesting, minus the extra word in the second paragraph!

Though 172 pages does feel like too few pages to cover four entire films.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Kradan on Jul 11, 2020, 07:55:25 PM
QuoteFrom Predator, Predator 2, and Predators to the recent The Predator, these four
films have withstood the test of time and become a cultural phenomenon with a
perfect balance of action, horror, and comedy

I'm not sure about that one  :D
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Sexual tyrannasuarus on Jul 12, 2020, 04:20:05 AM
Yea right the predator didn't even withstand the box office let alone the test of time
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: GreybackElder on Jul 12, 2020, 12:53:35 PM
Ohhhh you better believe I'm buying this. I believe P1 and P2 made it Predator the icon it is today.P1 established the creature and P2 expanded on the mythos. I would go so far as to say the showdown on the predator ship at the end of P2 is one of the most important scenes in the whole franchise. Predators was a good addition to the franchise I just wish it did more with the p v p race war. The predator had the lab scene which I've always wanted to see on film but that was it's only redeeming quality in my opinion.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: PVC on Jul 12, 2020, 01:48:03 PM
Hi. For the love of ..... Please change the cover .....
The name of the book is ; Predator the archive
So please change the photo cover
Regards
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: SuperiorIronman on Jul 12, 2020, 02:44:34 PM
Quote from: Sexual tyrannasuarus on Jul 12, 2020, 04:20:05 AM
Yea right the predator didn't even withstand the box office let alone the test of time

Blame the suits at Fox. I doubt we'd get anything in the book on the re-shoots but I would love it if they said something.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2020, 06:54:55 PM
The Disney purchase might mean whoever blocked all that stuff Fox is gone now.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: BlazinBlueReview on Jul 12, 2020, 11:28:02 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 12, 2020, 06:54:55 PM
The Disney purchase might mean whoever blocked all that stuff Fox is gone now.

That would be fantastic news. Especially if Disney decided to dip into the stuff that was blocked. Be fantastic to hear the stories behind the production.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Enjoy on Jul 13, 2020, 06:38:01 AM
Any truth to the few months old news that Quentin Tarantino might write a predator script for disney ?
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 13, 2020, 07:40:13 AM
That was a load of bollocks from a piece of trash clickbait website, I'm afraid.


Anyway, commenting on the actual book! So woot! Predator behind-the-scenes book! Alien: The Archive was a little thin on the ground for me. Wasn't much we didn't already learn from CdL's docs or the other existing material. So I hope this Predator one goes further that! I want something interesting! Very glad to see it coming out and can't wait to get my hands on this one.

Though I do like Fugitive, I do agree that it needs to be Stan's original on the cover, same as they used Giger's original Alien artwork for Alien. Give us the OG for this! Already seeing people just glance over it on FB because of The Predator imagery.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Wysps on Jul 14, 2020, 10:05:16 PM
I hate to say that the imagery does bother me too.  To pick a character from the more contentious of the movies as the Front Cover  :-X  What are the odds that it could get changed at this point, if any...

I'm curious to see if the "unused ideas/deleted scenes" will be aside from what had been uploaded to social media pages after The Predator came out (i.e. Amanda/pod, Pred-monsters, Preds in Pants), or if there'll be a similar section for the other movies (Predators, namely). 
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 14, 2020, 10:15:16 PM
While incredibly fascinating it would be, I personally doubt they'll touch upon that infamous Amanda scene, or Newt or Ripley for that matter.  :)
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Jul 15, 2020, 02:07:33 PM
I'd be disappointed if they did hide all the other deleted stuff since we know about them now. I'd like to see them reasoned out. It'll just be ridiculous if they completely omit the Emissary's too.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 15, 2020, 04:26:16 PM
Agreed. At this point the cat is entirely out of the bag now.

There we're no Emissary Predators.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/l2JJKs3I69qfaQleE/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Kradan on Jul 15, 2020, 04:54:45 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jul 13, 2020, 07:40:13 AM
Though I do like Fugitive, I do agree that it needs to be Stan's original on the cover, same as they used Giger's original Alien artwork for Alien. Give us the OG for this! Already seeing people just glance over it on FB because of The Predator imagery.

I think you mentioned on one of your podcasts that the reasoning company people go with in such situations is that this is the creature from the latest movie to date. If there hadn't been The Predator, they would've used imagery of Classic from Predators
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Katanu on Jul 20, 2020, 03:16:12 PM
Finally some good news on Predator literature  ;D
Can't wait for this.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Jul 20, 2020, 05:27:10 PM
It's been a long time coming. Too long.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Russ840 on Sep 02, 2020, 06:51:02 PM
Is there any updates on this ?
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 02, 2020, 08:06:29 PM
Nothing new that I have seen...
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Russ840 on Sep 02, 2020, 09:20:11 PM
I am a little scared of the page count.

I would love to see some images from the mythical unrated cut of Predator 2
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: felix on Sep 02, 2020, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Russ840 on Sep 02, 2020, 06:51:02 PM
Is there any updates on this ?

I suspect its been cancelled.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 03, 2020, 01:32:10 PM
Quote from: Russ840 on Sep 02, 2020, 09:20:11 PM
I am a little scared of the page count.

I would love to see some images from the mythical unrated cut of Predator 2

As far as I can tell it is indeed, unfortunately, a myth.

Quote from: felix on Sep 02, 2020, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: Russ840 on Sep 02, 2020, 06:51:02 PM
Is there any updates on this ?

I suspect its been cancelled.

Bite your tongue!!!!
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Katanu on Oct 27, 2020, 01:37:55 AM
So... I guess this one is not being released in november then.  :'(
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Oct 27, 2020, 02:12:11 AM
Yeah, unfortunately it's been seemingly pushed back.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Oct 27, 2020, 10:07:04 AM
As it was never actually "officially" announced, I'm not sure that original release date was accurate.
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Engineer on Mar 27, 2021, 06:57:12 PM
Any news on this one? I was really looking forward to a BTS book for predator... :-/
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Mar 28, 2021, 01:38:39 AM
No official news yet but I wouldn't worry.  :)
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: Engineer on Mar 28, 2021, 04:53:04 AM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 28, 2021, 01:38:39 AM
No official news yet but I wouldn't worry.  :)
Thanks
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: CANNON on Jul 15, 2022, 09:55:57 PM
Does anyone have any update on this book?

If it is a lost cause, does anyone have any recommendations on a book similar to this?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Predator: The Archive
Post by: RidgeTop on Jul 17, 2022, 06:03:47 PM
No idea what's going on with that one, hopefully pushed to fall to include stuff on Prey.