Didn't know whether to put this under spoilers or not. They did officially release this clip so it's not like they were hiding until the release of the movie. But the Predators actually do speak with their own language. Color me intrigued. In all seriousness though, I think it's cool to finally see it speak its own native tongue. It probably would have been weird to see it talking to each other in the English language. it's a cool way too with a mix of clicks and growls in it and makes me wonder what it would have been like if they kept the three other Predators and if we'd see them communicating with each other in their own language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1QcElxo8mc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1QcElxo8mc)
How the f**k could he miss, look at the size of the target. What the hell? And people said Wolf was blind, at least he missed against a running alien a couple meters from him.
I understand we need to know what they say... but dunno... it just looks a bit comical. I do like the banter of the humans.
I'm super excited, I'm cranky about so much of this movie but this is something I've wanted to see for a while! I hope we see a few more lines from them both.
Same - this is something that I've wanted to see for the longest time. This alone is a good enough reason for me to view it, other than of course paying my dues to the Predator franchise :laugh: I wonder how much communication between the Predators takes place, or if it's just this one scene.
Ok Fugitive Predator looks awesome, but doesn't seem to have smarts :laugh:
"Shit I missed, and he's using biological armor! I'll use my blades and head straight towards him!"
Yeah Fugitive should have ran for it and regrouped. But I love seeing them communicate! Hope there is more but I kind of feel like this the the extent of their conversations in the film... as well as the "fight".
I hope that's not the case, but it seems likely :-\ Also, in the script the voices were supposed to sound more chittering/insectoid if I remember correctly, but it looks like they went with voices similar to the ones that were used in the 2010 AvP game (more garbled grunts?)
I like that they went with the garbled grunts instead. It's in line with the little we heard in P2 from Greyback.
Corporal HicksQuotePreviously posted here. Thanks for joining, though.
But I'm first - https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=60307.msg2314233#msg2314233
Nevermind.
Sorry mate, saw this first.
That's some shit acting my Munn... alright this is that last time I watch anything from this pic before I start to believe the rumors.
I recon! that but where Fugitive rushers the big guy full armour no decent trained Predator would make such a stupid and it looks pretty ungainly as well kinda remoinds me of Freddy Krueger when he grew long arms and chased the girls hahaha
They making them llook dumb agaiun like they did wolf. pffft.
I would have chosen The fugitive has no choice alone tpo beat the Upgrade and ditto the loonies eirther alone cant take it down so they would be forced to fight together because that would be the only way either would have a chance.
I think Hollywood are also pussyfying Predators now as well as the Aliens, juts like they are pussyfying men with femeal miciaing hormones in plastics lol. i hate when they bring poltiics and shit into it like mesing with DNA , cclimate change and oh we also have to go to fkn War as well..gimme a break
I freakin have been saying this since AVPR it would be cool to see subtitles even mentioned it in the AVPR thread. Ahhh ! This is great dont kill me for liking it!
Oh man, just look at size of him. Poor Logan.. his adamantium claws sliced clean off. Peter Rasputin looks massive.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 07, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
How the f**k could he miss, look at the size of the target. What the hell?
Fugitive does not miss...Assassin dodges.
We know that Assassin is more faster, more agile than an average Predator. And we know that plasma is flying slower in the air than a bullet... It can be evaded from a certain distance.
EDIT:
Also, I've noticed that Fugitive's wrist blades brake because he hits Assassin on his wrist gauntlet...which is advanced metal.
At least, I make out this from the TV spot.
Awful, the whole subtitules with translation thing was just bad, the rest does nto look very good either. It reminds me of AVPR
Quote from: Xerxész on Sep 08, 2018, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 07, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
How the f**k could he miss, look at the size of the target. What the hell?
Fugitive does not miss...Assassin dodges.
We know that Assassin is more faster, more agile than an average Predator. And we know that plasma is flying slower in the air than a bullet... It can be evaded from a certain distance.
EDIT:
Also, I've noticed that Fugitive's wrist blades brake because he hits Assassin on his wrist gauntlet...which is advanced metal.
At least, I make out this from the TV spot.
I stopped watching right when he broke his wrist blades on the Assassin....I didn't want to spoil the decapitation of the Fugitive until next Thursday, so is that in that video?
No, the Predator action in that clip basically ends with the mighty car smash of Fugitive.
Quote from: IZE on Sep 08, 2018, 05:04:55 PM
I freakin have been saying this since AVPR it would be cool to see subtitles even mentioned it in the AVPR thread. Ahhh ! This is great dont kill me for liking it!
I don't see the problem either.
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 09, 2018, 12:05:53 AM
No, the Predator action in that clip basically ends with the mighty car smash of Fugitive.
Just watched it, thanks
It's better then the speaking English. But we've already seen that so it's not new. I like that there treated like intelligent beings not just a space monster, and if always thought it would be neat in a comic to have s predator crew member on a ship, he would be the worf of that ship.
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 09, 2018, 12:05:53 AM
No, the Predator action in that clip basically ends with the mighty car smash of Fugitive.
It's not unusual for a clip to be heavily edited. I expect there was some dialogue, additional fighting, and likely an execution that was removed from what we were shown.
Quote from: Xerxész on Sep 08, 2018, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 07, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
How the f**k could he miss, look at the size of the target. What the hell?
Fugitive does not miss...Assassin dodges.
We know that Assassin is more faster, more agile than an average Predator. And we know that plasma is flying slower in the air than a bullet... It can be evaded from a certain distance.
The shot wasn't going that slow, it was just a simple yet effective maneuver on Hunter's part. Now, whether or not a shot from that thing could even penetrate that natural armor is something I'd like to know. But if fugitive really wanted to shoot him, then he should've done it when he had his blades broken and was a foot from his enemy. He had like 2 seconds there to make a solid hit "center mass" at close range.
It's a shame that Fugitive is the only normal Predator in the movie.
The best Predator design since the first, and it's completely wasted, now all it will be remembered for is getting it's head ripped off.
Quote from: Huggs on Sep 09, 2018, 05:15:42 AM
The shot wasn't going that slow, it was just a simple yet effective maneuver on Hunter's part. Now, whether or not a shot from that thing could even penetrate that natural armor is something I'd like to know. But if fugitive really wanted to shoot him, then he should've done it when he had his blades broken and was a foot from his enemy. He had like 2 seconds there to make a solid hit "center mass" at close range.
That would have actually been a great way to show how desperate the Fugitive is. Shooting him up close, taking some splash damage, yet the Upgrade is completely unharmed.
Quote from: DarthWall275 on Sep 09, 2018, 08:47:53 AM
It's a shame that Fugitive is the only normal Predator in the movie.
The best Predator design since the first, and it's completely wasted, now all it will be remembered for is getting it's head ripped off.
Actually he's pretty badass. There's plenty in here for him to be remembered by.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 09, 2018, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: DarthWall275 on Sep 09, 2018, 08:47:53 AM
It's a shame that Fugitive is the only normal Predator in the movie.
The best Predator design since the first, and it's completely wasted, now all it will be remembered for is getting it's head ripped off.
Actually he's pretty badass. There's plenty in here for him to be remembered by.
Can you confirm if this fight scene goes longer ? Does fugitive have anymore fights/badass moments with the upgrade or does he litrelly get killed first encounter with him. Im puzzled really, as in the trailers he gets pulled through the window onto the car and on here he gets slammed while outside on the car
Spoiler
Unfortunately it's just a short fight when they finally meet up at the school.
Meh, still leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
Regarding previous comments about how it's a poor choice on Fugitive's part to rush Upgrade, break his wristblades, etc... my first impression of that scene right off the bat was that Fugitive is probably aware he doesn't stand much of a chance against Upgrade, and is putting up a last stand and refusing to go down without a fight. It's more symbolic than a genuine attempt to take Upgrade down.
Thanks hicks. Just a few more questions, im sure by now they have been confirmed but just checking.
1) only fugitive and assasin predators in the movie correct ?
2) How far into the film does fugitive last ? Worrying he is gonna get killed like 20 mins in 🙈
I want to see Predator 5 with Dutch, Harrigan, Royce and Quinn captured and put to the ultimate survival on the Predator home world. We haven't seen any of these characters since there first outing and this is a great opportunity to bring them all back and make a really badass movie.
Is it me? Or does the fugitive look retarded when rushing the upgrade? Doesn't look anything like the p1 or p2 when it comes to body movement. I could be wrong.
Quote from: Lionhart on Sep 09, 2018, 04:10:34 PM
Is it me? Or does the fugitive look retarded when rushing the upgrade?
Not just you.
Predator violence has got to stop. If he talked things out instead of firing that big gun.
Let us hope the next predator film will focus on environmental issues, strong female rights, white privilege and global warming.
he would have hit, but upgrade dodged the shot. It was u who missed it :0)
Can someone who has seen it or knows please tell me what Yvonne Strahovski's role is like exactly and what happens to her, lives/dies so on.
Upgrade looks so odd when he dodges that shot...reminds of the Kaminoans from Star Wars attack of the clones
For people who have seen the movie, how many times
Spoiler
do the Preds have subtitles or talk?
Quote from: Ultramorph on Sep 13, 2018, 01:46:39 PM
For people who have seen the movie, how many times Spoiler
do the Preds have subtitles or talk?
Spoiler
From what I can remember...
During the fight.
Upgrade uses the translator to speak to the humans.
Upgrade says something on his ship after he's located Fugitives crashed ship.
I think...
Spoiler
Upgrade talking to the humans
sounds kind of awesome. Looking forward to seeing this tomorrow.
Quote from: Ultramorph on Sep 13, 2018, 02:02:24 PM
Spoiler
Upgrade talking to the humans
Yeah, it was a cool scene.
Spoiler
It's not face to face. He's on the ship and they are outside.
So many great little things throughout the movie. Need to watch it again.
From what I recall.....
Spoiler
....four times. Once on Upgrade's ship before he lands (I think he's saying he's located Fugitive, but I can't remember exactly because it's pretty brief), once in this scene talking to Fugitive that you see here, once as the same scene ends when he's presumably communicating with his allies telling them "traitor eliminated" and that he's still searching for "the cargo", to which they respond "human leads, if any?" and he looks at the Loonies escaping and says "several", then once more after he's entered Fugitive's ship and uses the humans' translator to speak to everyone outside (we hear the speech in English, but see Predator text being translated on a monitor as he's talking).
Quote from: DarthWall275 on Sep 09, 2018, 08:47:53 AM
It's a shame that Fugitive is the only normal Predator in the movie.
The best Predator design since the first, and it's completely wasted, now all it will be remembered for is getting it's head ripped off.
What?! I know this is subjective, but you need to get yours eyes checked. The best designs still come from the first two movies. This iron man crap predator is not anderson AVP bad but it is second to worst design.
Quote from: ROYCE_THE_PREDATOR on Sep 09, 2018, 03:09:42 PM
I want to see Predator 5 with Dutch, Harrigan, Royce and Quinn captured and put to the ultimate survival on the Predator home world. We haven't seen any of these characters since there first outing and this is a great opportunity to bring them all back and make a really badass movie.
Not just no, but he'll no! You wanna talk about more bad ideas, this one is up there with the movie now in theaters.
I have to admit I'm disappointed Fugitive doesn't respond - it makes sense in the context that he wouldn't, but I was hoping for a brief conversation!
I was hoping Fugitive would respond with some of his own species' slang terms against Upgrade.
Quote from: germanator2 on Sep 07, 2018, 11:11:42 PM
Didn't know whether to put this under spoilers or not. They did officially release this clip so it's not like they were hiding until the release of the movie. But the Predators actually do speak with their own language. Color me intrigued. In all seriousness though, I think it's cool to finally see it speak its own native tongue. It probably would have been weird to see it talking to each other in the English language. it's a cool way too with a mix of clicks and growls in it and makes me wonder what it would have been like if they kept the three other Predators and if we'd see them communicating with each other in their own language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1QcElxo8mc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1QcElxo8mc)
there are spoilers in the trailers but I dont consider it a spoiler if its officially released. I think spoilers are only scenes that are meant to be a surprise.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 07, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
How the f**k could he miss, look at the size of the target. What the hell? And people said Wolf was blind, at least he missed against a running alien a couple meters from him.
he went to stormtrooper bootcamp.
Quote from: Samhain13 on Sep 07, 2018, 11:16:24 PM
How the f**k could he miss, look at the size of the target. What the hell? And people said Wolf was blind, at least he missed against a running alien a couple meters from him.
and dont all the predator weapons automatically lock and track anyway?
Quote from: bobcunk on Sep 14, 2018, 05:47:37 PM
and dont all the predator weapons automatically lock and track anyway?
Only time I remember actual lock tracking for the shoulder cannon was on the AVP2 game. Maybe Predator Concrete Jungle as well, but in AVP2010 you could miss.
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 14, 2018, 04:01:09 PM
I was hoping Fugitive would respond with some of his own species' slang terms against Upgrade.
Was hoping for more also. That tv spot was too much of a tease! It didn't deliver :-\
Any kills Fugitive gets after breaking out were a bonus. He easily could've died in the initial crash.
Man I thought Fugitive was going to go all Elfin Lied on the base team but instead just went a Little Rambo... oh man I was sooo hoping he was going to rip off Munns head while invisible and then use her body as a meat shield. If that happened this would have been the movie of the year.
That fight was so anticlimactic and fast, is was really a wasted opportunity. They could have made it more fierce, two skilled warriors fighting to the death, with the humans looking at it with awe.
Didn't Fugitive try and stab Upgrade but the wrist blades snapped? If that's what happened, and I hope it was, that's a good way to show Upgrade is a tough son of a beach, and Fugitive's skills weren't lacking. It's just that Upgrade's genetics were superior. Is that what happened? I can't remember.
Yeah, that happened.
Superior genetics, ugh.
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
Quote from: Huntsman on Sep 16, 2018, 12:08:41 PM
Didn't Fugitive try and stab Upgrade but the wrist blades snapped? If that's what happened, and I hope it was, that's a good way to show Upgrade is a tough son of a beach, and Fugitive's skills weren't lacking. It's just that Upgrade's genetics were superior. Is that what happened? I can't remember.
They did snapped but still, that fight should have been more close. The humans put up a better fight than the Predator. He tried to shot him with a plasma cannon...once :P Was he out of juice or what?
Question about the clip (haven't seen the movie yet): If Upgrade doesn't have a helmet, why did we see a HUD when seeing from his point of view?
Cybernetic eyes or laziness.
Predator 2 yet again!
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
True. Could it have been the fire that had an affect on his skin armor?
At any rate I still think it is b.s. that Fugitive didn't fallback and regroup. Honorable death or not, it becomes a death wish at a certain point. Plus he was on a mission which is why he was running from the get-go.
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 16, 2018, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
True. Could it have been the fire that had an affect on his skin armor?
At any rate I still think it is b.s. that Fugitive didn't fallback and regroup. Honorable death or not, it becomes a death wish at a certain point. Plus he was on a mission which is why he was running from the get-go.
The writers wanted the Fugitive to get killed to make the Upgrade look good.They don't care about it making sense or not. Its just bad writing.
(https://i.imgur.com/pctCTPK.gif)
At that point the movie ends, the cool predator let the new kill him with no fight back...
To be fair, it does seem a very 'Predator' thing to do. When it doubt, SHOOT. Missed? STAB.
My favorite thing about this scene is how absolutely miserable Fugitive looks after he's been slammed into the car. You can practically hear him going "oowwwwww..."
I wouldn't say he let Upgrade kill him without fighting - Fugitive shot him, and when that failed he charged and took a swing at him even though he surely must have known it was futile and he was outmatched. He was probably so stunned from being slammed violently into the car that there wasn't much he could do to pick himself back up before being sadly pummeled. I cringed at the sound he made when Upgrade grabbed his throat... :'(
That distressed sound he makes when his blades break... :'(
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 16, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
That strangled sound he makes when his blades break... :'(
if the 2 friendly predator's wasen't cut from the movie would he still have died at the same spot
or would it have turned out way different ?
So instead of step back he go full retarded agains him, while with humans he go arround jumping... The fight was pacted, he had to loose, even if we know that he could beat him or give more fight
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 16, 2018, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
True. Could it have been the fire that had an affect on his skin armor?
At any rate I still think it is b.s. that Fugitive didn't fallback and regroup. Honorable death or not, it becomes a death wish at a certain point. Plus he was on a mission which is why he was running from the get-go.
Yeah, to me it seemed like a cheap out of character move to make the Fugitive look pansy in comparison to the Upgrade. He was on a mission to get his shit back and run, not do a wrestling match with the big guy. If staying in character, would he really have compromised "the mission" by staying and fighting someone who completely outmatched him? Even for a Predator, I find that hard to believe.
I think the intention is that he knew he couldn't beat or escape from Sir Roids-A-Lot, so he opted for a final 'f**k You' before going out. When he broke the wristblades and got slammed again (and I agree, that noise was tragic :'( ) it was almost like he was saying "This was supposed to be a lot cooler... My ancestors are gonna be pissed."
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 16, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
That distressed sound he makes when his blades break... :'(
I didn't need this :( was actually sad to see his face punched in as well. The only death in the film I actually felt anything for!
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 16, 2018, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 16, 2018, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
True. Could it have been the fire that had an affect on his skin armor?
At any rate I still think it is b.s. that Fugitive didn't fallback and regroup. Honorable death or not, it becomes a death wish at a certain point. Plus he was on a mission which is why he was running from the get-go.
Yeah, to me it seemed like a cheap out of character move to make the Fugitive look pansy in comparison to the Upgrade. He was on a mission to get his shit back and run, not do a wrestling match with the big guy. If staying in character, would he really have compromised "the mission" by staying and fighting someone who completely outmatched him? Even for a Predator, I find that hard to believe.
It's justa good question, what that "mission" was, given that he already delivered the package. He didn't stay out of character, for he never really had one, unfortunately. The only point in that scene was showing how big and bad the upgrade is.
About the predator speech, I thought it would have been presented rather something organic, not some robotic sound. Maybe the pgrade has somecybernetic in it, who knows.
Quote from: Naginata on Sep 16, 2018, 06:54:18 PM
I think the intention is that he knew he couldn't beat or escape from Sir Roids-A-Lot, so he opted for a final 'f**k You' before going out. When he broke the wristblades and got slammed again (and I agree, that noise was tragic :'( ) it was almost like he was saying "This was supposed to be a lot cooler... My ancestors are gonna be pissed."
Maybe...it seemed like prior to breaking his wrist blades, he thought maybe he could put up a decent fight. And then when that didn't work, he'd go out in a blaze of glory or get in one last hurrah. That noise though :'(
Quote from: huntin8-t0n on Sep 16, 2018, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: Wysps on Sep 16, 2018, 06:35:58 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 16, 2018, 01:26:48 PM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
True. Could it have been the fire that had an affect on his skin armor?
At any rate I still think it is b.s. that Fugitive didn't fallback and regroup. Honorable death or not, it becomes a death wish at a certain point. Plus he was on a mission which is why he was running from the get-go.
Yeah, to me it seemed like a cheap out of character move to make the Fugitive look pansy in comparison to the Upgrade. He was on a mission to get his shit back and run, not do a wrestling match with the big guy. If staying in character, would he really have compromised "the mission" by staying and fighting someone who completely outmatched him? Even for a Predator, I find that hard to believe.
It's justa good question, what that "mission" was, given that he already delivered the package. He didn't stay out of character, for he never really had one, unfortunately. The only point in that scene was showing how big and bad the upgrade is.
You might have a point there. At this time in the story, was the mission already completed? What was the ultimate goal for him at this point?
Its initial mision was to recover the thing that the kid has, that light pen that interfers with the ship, the crappy cgi suit was added after that
Quote from: Fugitive Predator on Sep 16, 2018, 05:59:02 PM
Quote from: PredBabe on Sep 16, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
That strangled sound he makes when his blades break... :'(
if the 2 friendly predator's wasen't cut from the movie would he still have died at the same spot
or would it have turned out way different ?
Yeah he would have died during that same scene. The 2 friendlies show up during the beginning of the 3rd act I think.
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
I can't recall exactly but I assume he'd lose the ability to keep his armour on with all that flame going off.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 17, 2018, 07:56:00 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
I can't recall exactly but I assume he'd lose the ability to keep his armour on with all that flame going off.
Good point, that has to be factored in.
Quote from: Huntsman on Sep 17, 2018, 12:27:54 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Sep 17, 2018, 07:56:00 AM
Quote from: whiterabbit on Sep 16, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
Yea but then a normal dude with a plain steel knife managed to stab the f**ker. Although I thought he actually broke his wrist blades by hitting them with a forearm whack. ???
I can't recall exactly but I assume he'd lose the ability to keep his armour on with all that flame going off.
Good point, that has to be factored in.
Ah so fire beats armor... wait I thought it grew an exoskeleton?
I have no idea how heat would affect his ability to activate his bulletproof armor. That's actually a pretty glaring weakness.
I'm no chemist but I assume phosphorous burns at quite a high temperature. Aliens have exoskeletons and evidently they don't like heat, even if we don't know if it actually kills.
I always assumed that the fire overwhelms the Alien's senses and it just freaks out.
It's the most logical conclusion, from Covenant we know they find it unpleasant but it doesn't outright kill them.