Does Runner control Golic on psychological level?

Started by Kradan, Mar 08, 2019, 12:56:22 AM

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The Old One

The Old One

#45
"As a result, the final Alien is not as elegant a creature as it was before,
but it's more vicious.
It helped when we got to the big chase sequences at the end, because it gave us exciting POVs and explained the ravenous attack mode this thing was in... we wanted it to be fast and big and powerful and dumb. A jaguar crossed with a freight train."
-David Fincher

Samhain13

Quote from: The Old One on Mar 12, 2019, 01:04:04 PM
"As a result, the final Alien is not as elegant a creature as it was before,

Yep he is right.

The Old One

The Old One

#47
It's a gorgeous beast though, best ADI (& Non-Giger) Alien.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: The Old One on Mar 12, 2019, 01:04:04 PM
we wanted it to be fast and big and powerful and dumb. A jaguar crossed with a freight train."
-David Fincher

Fast - Jaguars can run over 80 kilometers per hour

Big - Adult Jaguars are typically over 6 feet in length.

Powerful - Jaguars are incredibly strong and have the most powerful bite than any other cat on Earth.

Dumb - Is that where the freight train comes in?  :P

The Kurgan

Damn jaguars are amazing.

Voodoo Magic

They really are:

"A jaguar is a bit different from other carnivores — even from other cats. Its head is big for its body size, which is also a bit bigger than you might expect for a feline. It has thick canine teeth and strong muscles in its head, which combine to produce a powerful bite. And jaguars kill their prey differently than other big cats. Lions, tigers and other big kitties bite the underside of their prey's neck and hold on until the animal suffocates and dies. Jaguars have a different killing style: They go for the back of the neck or skull, which damages the spine and incapacitates their prey.

Scientists had proposed that this suite of adaptations, from jaguar morphology to killing style, help jaguars eat reptiles. Jaguars are the only big cats to regularly eat reptiles, and big teeth and strong muscles are needed to get through thick reptile skin. But a new study suggests that those adaptations instead allow jaguars to take down really dangerous animals and those that carry their own armor — only some of which are reptiles."

https://www.sciencenews.org/blog/wild-things/jaguars-armored-prey-no-obstacle







Stitch

Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 11, 2019, 09:33:42 PM
If it was smart it would have captured Ripley and glued her to a webbing wall so that there wouldn't be any risk of the queen dying in any way. Make Ripley immobile, break her limbs and just wait for the queen to come out. As dumb as a ox.

The queen has a longer gestation period, if I recall correctly. This would mean more nutrients needed from the host. Since there was only one alien, maybe it was just a better idea to let the host go so they could eat and live autonomously until it was time for birth.
In a hive there would be plenty of aliens, some to defend, some to nurture. Since the runner was alone, maybe it prioritised killing any threats to the newborn queen, such as the humans who would rightly try to kill it as soon as it was born.

The Old One

The Old One

#52
Indeed.

Corporal Hicks

Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 11, 2019, 09:33:42 PM
If it was smart it would have captured Ripley and glued her to a webbing wall so that there wouldn't be any risk of the queen dying in any way. Make Ripley immobile, break her limbs and just wait for the queen to come out. As dumb as a ox.

Yeah, that was another thing I wish they'd changed about the Alien's behaviour in 3. Not only should it have been cocooning the inmates for the future Queen, it should have attempted to capture and restrain her too. Of course, they could have worked out a way to keep her free and everything but it should have tried.

Kradan

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 23, 2019, 12:12:20 PM
Yeah, that was another thing I wish they'd changed about the Alien's behaviour in 3. Not only should it have been cocooning the inmates for the future Queen, it should have attempted to capture and restrain her too. Of course, they could have worked out a way to keep her free and everything but it should have tried.

You mean cocoon Ripley and wait untill Queen's birth? That's cool idea actually.

Perfect-Organism

Quote from: Stitch on Mar 23, 2019, 09:11:13 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 11, 2019, 09:33:42 PM
If it was smart it would have captured Ripley and glued her to a webbing wall so that there wouldn't be any risk of the queen dying in any way. Make Ripley immobile, break her limbs and just wait for the queen to come out. As dumb as a ox.

The queen has a longer gestation period, if I recall correctly. This would mean more nutrients needed from the host. Since there was only one alien, maybe it was just a better idea to let the host go so they could eat and live autonomously until it was time for birth.
In a hive there would be plenty of aliens, some to defend, some to nurture. Since the runner was alone, maybe it prioritised killing any threats to the newborn queen, such as the humans who would rightly try to kill it as soon as it was born.

Any notion of gestation period standardization went out the window with Alien Covenant.

LastSonofKrypton

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 23, 2019, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 11, 2019, 09:33:42 PM
If it was smart it would have captured Ripley and glued her to a webbing wall so that there wouldn't be any risk of the queen dying in any way. Make Ripley immobile, break her limbs and just wait for the queen to come out. As dumb as a ox.

Yeah, that was another thing I wish they'd changed about the Alien's behaviour in 3. Not only should it have been cocooning the inmates for the future Queen, it should have attempted to capture and restrain her too. Of course, they could have worked out a way to keep her free and everything but it should have tried.

Isn't there some pre-production art out there showing that it was an idea than didn't get included in the movie?

Corporal Hicks

There's the whole meat locker thing that was scripted and one (or two) cocoons were made by ADI.

Stitch

Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Mar 23, 2019, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Mar 23, 2019, 09:11:13 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 11, 2019, 09:33:42 PM
If it was smart it would have captured Ripley and glued her to a webbing wall so that there wouldn't be any risk of the queen dying in any way. Make Ripley immobile, break her limbs and just wait for the queen to come out. As dumb as a ox.

The queen has a longer gestation period, if I recall correctly. This would mean more nutrients needed from the host. Since there was only one alien, maybe it was just a better idea to let the host go so they could eat and live autonomously until it was time for birth.
In a hive there would be plenty of aliens, some to defend, some to nurture. Since the runner was alone, maybe it prioritised killing any threats to the newborn queen, such as the humans who would rightly try to kill it as soon as it was born.

Any notion of gestation period standardization went out the window with Alien Covenant.
True, but this was Alien 3. We still had a rough rule book at this point.

Samhain13

Quote from: Stitch on Mar 23, 2019, 09:11:13 AM
Quote from: Samhain13 on Mar 11, 2019, 09:33:42 PM
If it was smart it would have captured Ripley and glued her to a webbing wall so that there wouldn't be any risk of the queen dying in any way. Make Ripley immobile, break her limbs and just wait for the queen to come out. As dumb as a ox.

The queen has a longer gestation period, if I recall correctly. This would mean more nutrients needed from the host. Since there was only one alien, maybe it was just a better idea to let the host go so they could eat and live autonomously until it was time for birth.
In a hive there would be plenty of aliens, some to defend, some to nurture. Since the runner was alone, maybe it prioritised killing any threats to the newborn queen, such as the humans who would rightly try to kill it as soon as it was born.

Don't know if you ever read Labyrinth... aliens are shown to force feed hosts.

Don't underestimate how resourceful they can be. Ripley would not starve.

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