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Author Topic: Will Aliens, Alien 3 and A:R get 4K upscalings?  (Read 7228 times)

Voodoo Magic
Mar 15, 2019, 12:40:05 PM
Reply #45 on: Mar 15, 2019, 12:40:05 PM
45 Minutes from popping, to 4.5 minutes, to 45 seconds from popping, it makes her sacrifice no more meaningful to me.

Knowing Hicks and Newt are alive somewhere while she's doing it, now we're talking.

And however one feels about it in film, Ripley restraining the burster against her as she falls to her death is quite the visual.(imo)


Voodoo Magic
Mar 15, 2019, 01:36:06 PM
Reply #46 on: Mar 15, 2019, 01:36:06 PM
Well not that fire, those effects... but put the visual in your head and presto! Quite a visual! ;D


The Old One
Mar 15, 2019, 01:36:22 PM
Reply #47 on: Mar 15, 2019, 01:36:22 PM
"No."

I disagree, if Dwayne Hicks and Rebecca Jorden (Newt)'s alive- Ripley's personal attachment  renders the sacrifice simple, save the family. But dead and the comfort's absent.

It's difficult to do the right thing when you've something to fight for.
It's more difficult to do the right thing when you've nothing to fight for.

The effect's horrendous and rushed.

« Last Edit: Mar 15, 2019, 01:47:02 PM by The Old One »

Space_Dementia
Mar 17, 2019, 02:17:05 AM
Reply #48 on: Mar 17, 2019, 02:17:05 AM
Her sacrifice is more meaningful if she wasn't already seconds away from popping.

I've heard/read a lot of people agree with this... but for me personally, the theatrical version of the sacrifice scene is much more powerful, with her holding the alien/queen down as she falls... for me personally this just had more impact.


Voodoo Magic
Mar 17, 2019, 02:45:54 AM
Reply #49 on: Mar 17, 2019, 02:45:54 AM
Her sacrifice is more meaningful if she wasn't already seconds away from popping.

I've heard/read a lot of people agree with this... but for me personally, the theatrical version of the sacrifice scene is much more powerful, with her holding the alien/queen down as she falls... for me personally this just had more impact.

Personally I have gone back and forth with this. Not in regards to it being any more meaningful if Ripley jumps at the time of popping or a hour before, because to me, it doesn't get any more emotional either way.  But just the imagery of Ripley using her last bit of strength to hold the buster against her, and take it down with her, and to almost appear at peace with it is indeed powerful.

So I can understand that point of view.  :)



Space_Dementia
Mar 17, 2019, 06:52:59 PM
Reply #51 on: Mar 17, 2019, 06:52:59 PM
Her sacrifice is more meaningful if she wasn't already seconds away from popping.

I've heard/read a lot of people agree with this... but for me personally, the theatrical version of the sacrifice scene is much more powerful, with her holding the alien/queen down as she falls... for me personally this just had more impact.

Personally I have gone back and forth with this. Not in regards to it being any more meaningful if Ripley jumps at the time of popping or a hour before, because to me, it doesn't get any more emotional either way.  But just the imagery of Ripley using her last bit of strength to hold the buster against her, and take it down with her, and to almost appear at peace with it is indeed powerful.

So I can understand that point of view.  :)

Exactly that really, I did feel the image of her falling and holding the alien down with 'her last bit of strength' was just so much powerful and I actually still find it emotional still to this day.

The Theatrical Sacrifice is garbage fanservice, (Visual's awful) so- no.

I disagree with it being fan service,  for me it was a wise change, the AC version had no impact... though I will say I preferred the slower build up to her jumping actually, so there's certain moments I liked of the AC cut, id keep the buildup with extra shots of Weyland, but then keep the theatrical version of her falling. So half and half you could say.


The Old One
Mar 17, 2019, 07:49:02 PM
Reply #52 on: Mar 17, 2019, 07:49:02 PM
It is fanservice. David Fincher declared so.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

« Last Edit: Mar 17, 2019, 08:39:52 PM by The Old One »


The Old One
Mar 17, 2019, 08:01:15 PM
Reply #54 on: Mar 17, 2019, 08:01:15 PM
The personality.
And he's correct.


Voodoo Magic
Mar 17, 2019, 08:18:38 PM
Reply #55 on: Mar 17, 2019, 08:18:38 PM
The personality.
And he's correct.

Freight trains have personality?  ;D

we wanted it to be fast and big and powerful and dumb. A jaguar crossed with a freight train."
-David Fincher

Fast - Jaguars can run over 80 kilometers per hour

Big - Adult Jaguars are typically over 6 feet in length.

Powerful - Jaguars are incredibly strong and have the most powerful bite than any other cat on Earth.

Dumb - Is that where the freight train comes in? 


Local Trouble
Mar 17, 2019, 08:25:14 PM
Reply #56 on: Mar 17, 2019, 08:25:14 PM
I'm guessing "freight train" is a reference to the impact it makes when it slams into its victims at high speeds.

« Last Edit: Mar 17, 2019, 08:31:19 PM by Local Trouble »

The Old One
Mar 17, 2019, 08:30:15 PM
Reply #57 on: Mar 17, 2019, 08:30:15 PM
Yeah, the impact- E.G; Alan Jude.

« Last Edit: Mar 24, 2019, 02:03:52 AM by The Old One »


Voodoo Magic
Mar 17, 2019, 08:48:30 PM
Reply #59 on: Mar 17, 2019, 08:48:30 PM
Honestly a big powerful Jaguar could have the same slamming impact as a Runner, especially coming at you at 80 kilometers per hour, sooo....  ;D





 

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