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Author Topic: Alien 3 - William Gibson - Lost Screenplay  (Read 16066 times)

skhellter
Nov 05, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
Reply #180 on: Nov 05, 2021, 02:22:33 AM
Finished this.

Quite liked it.

My biggest fear going in was that, as an alternative to the darkest film in the series, this would feel like Aliens fan-fic, a happy little fun ride where they blast aliens to kingdom come, etc..et c..

Glad to have been very wrong.

Cadigan made this way darker than the original script and even though tone-wise it still owes a lot to Cameron's film, this is darker than anything that Cameron would dream of putting on screen.
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Hicks as a paranoid, PTSD/survivors-guilt ridden mess of a man is probably the very best version of him. And the way Cadigan writes all that out feels honest and (thankfully), free of cheap melodrama.

Solid.

(this has some pretty fun gore too)

In some alternate universe, this was directed by Tony Scott, competitive as f**k, wanting to beat his brother at his own game.

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KiramidHead
Nov 05, 2021, 02:50:32 AM
Reply #181 on: Nov 05, 2021, 02:50:32 AM
If Tony Scott directed it the whole movie would be set at sunrise/sunset. :laugh:


skhellter
Nov 05, 2021, 02:56:11 AM
Reply #182 on: Nov 05, 2021, 02:56:11 AM
easy to do with the holographic skies (ceilings) at Anchorpoint.

Would have a young Zimmer score too.

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Kane's other son
Nov 05, 2021, 09:17:49 AM
Reply #183 on: Nov 05, 2021, 09:17:49 AM
In an alternate universe, Fox got Tony Scott to do a proper, set in another planet Aliens Vs. Predator.




Corporal Hicks
Jan 12, 2022, 01:13:41 PM
Reply #186 on: Jan 12, 2022, 01:13:41 PM
I'm currently re-reading, at Chapter 26, and may have missed it, but did the novel ever say

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Kradan
Jan 12, 2022, 03:06:50 PM
Reply #187 on: Jan 12, 2022, 03:06:50 PM
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skhellter
Jan 12, 2022, 03:33:10 PM
Reply #189 on: Jan 12, 2022, 03:33:10 PM
The more i think about this book the more i like it and its take on Hicks.

All the mutations are easy to explain and the book hints at it.

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The whole last third seems to work as this mini morality play with Hicks figuring out the role that lying (to self and others) plays in keeping hope alive.
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And considering Cadigan's personal history that theme.. feels a bit poignant.

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Kradan
Jan 12, 2022, 03:38:37 PM
Reply #190 on: Jan 12, 2022, 03:38:37 PM
Is there an audiobook version ?


skhellter
Jan 12, 2022, 03:39:14 PM
Reply #191 on: Jan 12, 2022, 03:39:14 PM
no.

And the audible play version with Biehn and Lance Henriksen adapts the 2nd draft by Gibson (fairly different stories).

« Last Edit: Jan 12, 2022, 03:40:53 PM by skhellter »

Kradan
Jan 12, 2022, 03:41:42 PM
Reply #192 on: Jan 12, 2022, 03:41:42 PM
dammit


Engineer
Jan 12, 2022, 03:52:26 PM
Reply #193 on: Jan 12, 2022, 03:52:26 PM
no.

And the audible play version with Biehn and Lance Henriksen adapts the 2nd draft by Gibson (fairly different stories).

Yes there is!! I have it, on audible.

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skhellter
Jan 12, 2022, 03:58:26 PM
Reply #194 on: Jan 12, 2022, 03:58:26 PM
just to clear things up.

this book by Pat Cadigan adapts gibson's first draft.

the audible play adapts gibson's second draft.


first draft has hundreds of aliens.
second draft only has two aliens.

They're very different stories.

So there's no audiobook version of this novelisation by Cadigan (which was Kradan's question).


 

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