It's just my opinion. As you point out Voodoo the studio made an error thinking Ripley equals a successful ALIEN film. I view her as a heroine in the franchise. I don't think she ruined anything. I welcome new characters and story lines to the franchise. Though I still can see a future for Ripley.
And you were correct Voodoo my examples were about films based on the main characters. I was focused on the "Ripley ruined" part of the previous post.
Concerning Resurrection I think the directors choice to go with the dark humor was a big contribution to the "mockery" for some. I think it would have been a much better film if it didn't have that slant.
Yep, just our opinions here, and I 100% respect yours, and everyone's here actually... (except that wacky Voodoo Magic guy - his opinions are a little bit suspect.
And please don't get me wrong, I looooove Ripley, and love Alien and Aliens, and I'm so grateful for her. Those films are greater because of her (much due to Sigourney Weaver's performance!) But as Arnold was great in The Terminator and Terminator 2, I can see a character and its actor become so iconic and tied to the franchise, that the very character we love can become the franchise's worst enemy... where it becomes seen as - it's not a fill-in-blank movie
unless a fill-in-blank actor
is in it. Big shoes to fill, even when she's gone. She's no Ripley!
That's why I am soooo thankful Arnold didn't return for Predator 2. And thankfully, Ridley's prequels finally helped dispell much of that Ripley audience desire.... yet there's still calls to bring back Ripley and retcon Alien 3.
Regarding Resurrection, yeah, I think you're right, the dark humor, that tone probably contributed to its bad reception. Too me, the replacement of of Alien's traditional realistic characters with comic booky characters also didn't help. Of course, resurrecting your main character starts you off on the wrong foot with audiences to begin with. Audiences are smart enough to realize why the studio is doing this. ($$$) Whatever the case, as an Alien fan, seeing the film as a repeated punchline in late night talk shows and it appearing on critics' Worst Film of the Year lists was no definitely no fun time.