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Title: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp's Alien 5 Script
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 10, 2020, 06:47:31 PM

Earlier this year Ty Ellingson shared some artwork he did while working with Neill Blomkamp on his aborted Alien 5 project. In particular Ty shared concepts for Sky Crane variant of the iconic dropship.

Whos Nick, formerly of Hybrid Network, has shared a new interview he conducted with Ty regarding his work in the industry, and Ty’s involvement with Blomkamp, and Alien 5 in particular was discussed. When asked about the rumours surrounding whether or not Blomkamp completed a draft of the film, Ellingson said:

“I didn’t ever see a completed script. I saw what I would call a scriptment – a treatment – a scriptment is like half-and-half. But it was there. It’s not that uncommon to have an advanced scriptment, a partial script with treatment attached, to move the project forward. That’s how Mimic got made. Mimic was a scriptment.”

Ty Ellingson’s concept art of the new dropship variant.

Ellingson went on to talk to about how James Cameron’s Avatar was green-lit from a similar scriptment, something that Aliens’ very first treatment was also very similar with in terms of format. Ty further elaborated that –

“I didn’t see any holes in it that you couldn’t fill, and I think that Neill was working with writers at the time that we were doing the work. The set pieces, the beats were there. I don’t know whether it was a finished draft or an advanced treatment, I don’t know. It wouldn’t mean there was a problem one way or the other.”

The two discussed other things about Alien 5, such as how heartbroken that Ellingson was following the collapse of the project, which you can listen to the full interview below. The Alien 5 discussion begins around 01:13:00.

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Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 10, 2020, 07:54:50 PM
This excerpts you posted seem pretty in line with the last rumblings about the state of the project before its cancelation, and with the comments that Ridley Scott made.

I'll have to listen to the full interview later.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp's Alien 5 Script
Post by: marrerom on Aug 10, 2020, 08:00:57 PM
Its for the best that this project was cancelled. Any attempt to remove Alien 3 and Resurrection from continuity should be opposed.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp's Alien 5 Script
Post by: Rankles75 on Aug 10, 2020, 08:01:48 PM
Really hope we get to see an adaptation of some sort one day. No reason why it couldn't happen.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Aug 10, 2020, 08:39:16 PM
Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 10, 2020, 07:54:50 PM
This excerpts you posted seem pretty in line with the last rumblings about the state of the project before its cancelation, and with the comments that Ridley Scott made.

I'll have to listen to the full interview later.

Aye. Very much seems to be the case.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp's Alien 5 Script
Post by: Xenomorphine on Aug 10, 2020, 09:54:02 PM
Based on the Scott quote, there was at least a finished first draft script, at some point.

Interesting to have confirmation that Blomkamp was apparently working with not just one, but several other writers, however.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp's Alien 5 Script
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 11, 2020, 12:09:03 AM
A scriptment?  Got to check with dictionary.com...
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: SiL on Aug 11, 2020, 12:43:01 AM
It's a treatment written in script formatting rather than plain text.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp's Alien 5 Script
Post by: Lost_Hunter on Aug 11, 2020, 03:04:44 AM
A shame, the more I see of this project the more I'm convinced it could have been something special. An alternate "What if" that could have just been the shot in the arm we needed. The suit ADI was designing with the multiple arms was their best effort by a long shot. A return to the biomechanics that haven't been seen in the films since 1986. The new dropship looks awesome. Way to go Fox. Alien 3 and Resurrection have their merits but really? Covenant? Aweful. Aliencamp may not have been the movie we deserved but it was the one we needed.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Rabbit2100 on Aug 11, 2020, 04:27:05 AM
I can't help but feel like Ridleys story is just not as interesting as what Blomkamp was working on.

The haphazard state of Covenant makes it glaringly obvious, the creature feels almost begrudgingly shoehorned into the 3rd act because "I'll f*cking give 'em aliens"
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp's Alien 5 Script
Post by: Bug hunt wilson on Aug 11, 2020, 05:56:07 AM
Man sometimes I wonder what would have happend if we got alien 5 instead of coveant
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Aug 11, 2020, 01:17:58 PM
Quote from: Xenomorphine on Aug 10, 2020, 09:54:02 PM
Based on the Scott quote, there was at least a finished first draft script, at some point.

Interesting to have confirmation that Blomkamp was apparently working with not just one, but several other writers, however.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: TStyx on Aug 11, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
So what was the plot behind the script?  I've never seen an outline, did I miss it?  All I've seen so far is Ellen Ripley, again, and Hicks are in it but I'm not sure how that would make it a great script.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 11, 2020, 04:07:35 PM
You haven't missed anything. We never saw a proper treatment, all we know is that it was an alternate sequel to the first two films.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 11, 2020, 09:56:26 PM
Hopefully Blomkamp has a chance to get this done.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 11, 2020, 11:06:20 PM
I don't see him ever circling around to it, honestly. Even if they do cycle back around to a new alt-Alien 3 project, he really seems to have moved on. The recent Walter Hill treatment seems to have had a similar premise but from the sounds if it, nothing is going on there either.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 12, 2020, 12:04:12 AM
I hope you're wrong.  I really do.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: SM on Aug 12, 2020, 12:24:54 AM
If Blomkamp actually makes a movie at some point and it's big hit, studios and producers will start beating a path to his door.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Aug 12, 2020, 01:27:22 AM
Yah, that's about right.  I think he needs to show some dimension beyond Johannesburg ghetto settings and things could get interesting..
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: SM on Aug 12, 2020, 03:51:46 AM
I don't even mind if he did it in Jo'burg.  It's telling though that he's had a string of projects since 2015 that haven't progressed.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of B...
Post by: irn on Aug 12, 2020, 09:26:49 AM
I'd much rather he got the Robocop sequel than an Alien one.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of B...
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Aug 12, 2020, 12:05:55 PM
Quote from: irn on Aug 12, 2020, 09:26:49 AM
I'd much rather he got the Robocop sequel than an Alien one.

Same. Though Ed Nuemeier has since been replaced as writer on that one, so I don't think there's any going back to that, either.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Dec 30, 2020, 07:26:35 AM
Any news about the script?

Not that I ever want this movie ever to be made, but I am curious about the intended synopsis/story of this glorified fanboi project. The four-armed Alien Drone intrigued me.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Dec 30, 2020, 08:27:34 AM
https://www.talkingbay94.com/2020/02/05/tyruben-ellingson-star-wars-interview-podcast/

Mentions Alien 5 towards the end. Not listened yet, not sure if it's much. Via Willie Goldman.
Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: skhellter on Dec 30, 2020, 02:48:47 PM
Podcast has a transcript. Searched through it.

nothing new outside of the concept art being done in a 3 month period as part of pre-production.

Title: Re: Ty Ellingson, Alien 5 Artist, Talks Existence of Blomkamp’s Alien 5 Script
Post by: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jan 04, 2021, 04:39:22 AM
Ok. Thanks for the info!