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Title: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2020, 08:39:12 PM
https://twitter.com/TyRuben/status/1254508472055595014
https://twitter.com/TyRuben/status/1254508092865368065

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWjoyIXWkAAefQ8?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWjoyIzWkAAhwXl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWjoVUSWAAALGFY?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 26, 2020, 09:39:47 PM
Whatever issues people may have had with the premise, I'm sure we would have seen some awesome sci-fi hardware in this film.

I posted some Alien 3 concept art from Ellingson in the "Best non-alien pictures" thread as well.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 26, 2020, 10:02:30 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 26, 2020, 09:39:47 PM
Whatever issues people may have had with the premise, I'm sure we would have seen some awesome sci-fi hardware in this film.

Agreed. To be honest, I would have been very curious to see what Blomkamp's idea was before he had his talk with Sigourney that resulted in this morphing into an alternate Alien 3.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: SM on Apr 26, 2020, 10:55:39 PM
Why does it have wheels?
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 27, 2020, 08:26:35 AM
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/008/663/975/4k/paul-chadeisson-rh-pc-2015-07-27-hangar-04.jpg?1514392905)

Same
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:03:30 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2020, 10:55:39 PM
Why does it have wheels?

Why wouldn't it? Most aircraft, including vertical take-offs, have wheels.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:14:37 AM
'Cos drop ships are spaceships based on helicopters.

Looks a bit hokey to be honest.  An original design would've been better.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: LV-12986 on Apr 27, 2020, 11:31:30 AM
I love seeing stuff like this, Wasn't there something similar in ACM that was carrying the queen and got knocked down by the marines?
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Drukathi on Apr 27, 2020, 11:38:28 AM
They still continue to tease.

Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:14:37 AM
'Cos drop ships are spaceships based on helicopters.

Looks a bit hokey to be honest.  An original design would've been better.

It seems that you find fault with this only because you are not happy to see something new about Alien 5.  ???:)
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:44:13 AM
Thanks for explaining why I find fault.

I mean I could've done it myself and- oh wait.  I did.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: SiL on Apr 27, 2020, 11:49:15 AM
I like the cargo variants but I second the misgivings about the wheels.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Apr 27, 2020, 12:10:18 PM
It's likely just a case of taking something modern and incorporating it, but it's just not seeming right. Like the rails in the Pulse Rifle.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Red Harvest on Apr 27, 2020, 12:10:51 PM
Neil Blomkamp's Alien 5 will finally reborn and for the screen.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: AVP-CAPCOM on Apr 27, 2020, 01:38:36 PM
Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:14:37 AM
'Cos drop ships are spaceships based on helicopters.

Helicopters have wheels too.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: PVC on Apr 27, 2020, 02:12:51 PM
Hi.  Is there a director to work on alien 5  ?  Ripley brought something on earth with Call ....
The very end of earth .....
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Adam802 on Apr 27, 2020, 03:52:33 PM
Still upset we got the Ridley prequel garbage instead of this.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 27, 2020, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2020, 10:55:39 PM
Why does it have wheels?

In order to reverse over the container when doing a pickup aboard a ship.

It can also just trundle away after dropping off a crate, instead of having to take off again.

Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:14:37 AM
'Cos drop ships are spaceships based on helicopters.

Virtually all military helicopters have wheels.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 27, 2020, 06:06:53 PM
This looks so awesome.  I hope this movie gets made!
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Apr 27, 2020, 06:08:48 PM
https://twitter.com/TyRuben/status/1254553409467879426
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Predalien39 on Apr 27, 2020, 06:36:51 PM
Still would love to see this get made. 
Its too bad Terminator: Dark Fate did so so badly. 
The red carpet tease by Cameron hinting at trying to get this jump-started would have way more weight if Terminator had done well with his involvement.  I could see Disney being like, "Well, if he could re-ignite Terminator, he can help re-ignite Aliens."
I don't see this ever being made, but a man can hope.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: RidgeTop on Apr 27, 2020, 08:32:09 PM
Quote from: LV-12986 on Apr 27, 2020, 11:31:30 AM
I love seeing stuff like this, Wasn't there something similar in ACM that was carrying the queen and got knocked down by the marines?

(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/020/281/022/large/lorin-wood-heavylift-final.jpg?1584288351)

I made the connection as well, yeah that game did have some larger cargo dropships in it.

Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 10:06:21 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Apr 27, 2020, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2020, 10:55:39 PM
Why does it have wheels?

In order to reverse over the container when doing a pickup aboard a ship.

It can also just trundle away after dropping off a crate, instead of having to take off again.

Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:14:37 AM
'Cos drop ships are spaceships based on helicopters.

Virtually all military helicopters have wheels.

Hueys don't.

Either way, the design is derivative and the wheels just look clunky and tacked on.  If this was a starting point to something new - great.  But I don't care for it as a final design.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Apr 28, 2020, 04:07:58 PM
Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 10:06:21 PM
Hueys don't.

Apaches do which is the helicopter Cameron based his dropship design on.

(https://the-drive-2.imgix.net/https%3A%2F%2Fapi.thedrive.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F10%2Fah-64-1.jpg%3Fquality%3D85?w=1440&auto=compress%2Cformat&ixlib=js-1.4.1&s=b2c24bb649556920f858c49fa27da3e0)

Helicopter Skycranes all have wheels as well which Ellingson's design is based on:

(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/6/9/5/193695-12192-86-pristine.jpg)

QuoteBut I don't care for it as a final design.

And no problem with that, I'm just saying it's a sound design that could actually work in a real-world scenario. We all have different aesthetic preferences, some will like it, some won't.

Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 28, 2020, 04:22:38 PM
It's cool.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: TC on Apr 28, 2020, 04:55:44 PM
i like the concept but some of the details don't ring true.

As a "variant" you can't be swapping the landing strut arrangement around. The original had two in front and one in rear, this one has one in front and two in rear. That would require a major redesign of the load bearing airframe inside, something beyond a "variant."

Also the vectored thrust jets poke out from strange places now. Although the ones in the back look OK. (Presumably to lift the weight of the cargo).

As for wheels? Look authentic to me.

TC
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Caotain Dallas at Thedus on Apr 28, 2020, 09:53:37 PM
State Of The Bad-Ass Art!!FOX show face&greenlight Both Neill&Ridley!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Capt.Dallas at Thedus on Apr 28, 2020, 09:56:17 PM
So Sulaco was Conestoga Class Battle Wagon&Dropship's were Cheyenne???
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Prez on Apr 29, 2020, 12:09:19 AM
Hoping that maybe ... just maybe this gets the Dark Horse 'Unproduced screenplay' treatment too
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Perfect-Organism on Apr 29, 2020, 02:11:57 AM
Hoping this just gets plain old filmed.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Prez on Apr 29, 2020, 05:05:45 AM
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Apr 29, 2020, 02:11:57 AM
Hoping this just gets plain old filmed.

Maybe both  ;D
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2020, 07:37:26 PM
Disgusting wheels, for reasons that have already been stated.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: JokersWarPig on Jun 03, 2020, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: SM on Apr 27, 2020, 11:14:37 AM
'Cos drop ships are spaceships based on helicopters.

Looks a bit hokey to be honest.  An original design would've been better.

Well Blackhawks, Apaches, Chinooks, Merlins, and Sea Knights all have wheels, and I want to say more military helicopters today have wheels vs skids, so it makes sense.

I do prefer the skids look from the original though, if it aint broke don't fix it.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: [cancerblack] on Jun 03, 2020, 08:01:00 PM
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Jun 03, 2020, 07:57:16 PM
f it aint broke don't fix it.

This is the key here. Same as putting modern sights on a pulse rifle, it's likely going to be more effective to the imagined user but just looks like ass.
Title: Re: TyRuben Ellingson Dropship Art
Post by: Xenomorphine on Jun 12, 2020, 12:58:28 AM
Quote from: SM on Apr 26, 2020, 10:55:39 PM
Why does it have wheels?

Rolling take-offs. It acts like a Harrier and F-35. It allows them to carry more weight than pure VTOL allows for, meaning not as much fuel is used up for taking off. It's why neither of those planes are usually shown taking off vertically.

That would actually have more obvious benefits for a cargo transport than the typical armed version, which might need to carrier heavier loads than a single armoured vehicle.