Quote from: Trash Queen on Mar 01, 2021, 01:18:24 AM
Forgetting the nonsense AVP/R/2010.
For the original Alien, from the first three films and Alien Isolation, and then the ones featured in Alien Covenant.
They do exist separately because of The Cold Forge's establishment of Plagiarus Preapotens (original Alien) and then Alien The RPG's establishment of Plagiarus Linesteres (Alien Covenant) as a separate strain.
Sorry but have to say I love you after this statement and the stuff you´ve said in this thread
One of the few who think like me and know the groundrules set up from the rpg and past alien lore, with same worries as myself for what marvel is up to and from the sound it will change the lore drasticly for the worse if one follow what has been established in the past like myself.
I think it's far more likely that it'll be something to do with the black goo is responsible for this Xeno-lady than the actual Aliens themselves. The problem with that is that the black goo dont work int hat manner and creates fully working creatures, as we saw in covenant and fire and stone etc: it mutates the creature exposed to it horrible and barely a working creature after it nor are their bodies anywhere near intact or working as it should. Saw was killed by it and mutated horrible and not looking anything like this nor did the xeno and the humans exposed to black go look anything like this either. And we know from past stories and games etc it cant be royal jelly either since it dont do this either. PAst comics and books says no to black go making perfect human/xenomorph hybrids that has eyes and fully perfect and working bodies, she would been a disaster, an abomination walking.
But I can see weyland yutani doing experiments and try the stuff david did but then we need to see more evolution of mutations and creatures to reach to that status, but then she wouldnt have eyes as the black goo and xeno dna removes it.
Have to see but it better be a EXCELLENT explanation, which I doubt and its more like the user: Drukathi said:
In order not to upset in the future, it is better to keep in mind that future directors and writers will not rely on the board game and other books. Especially the directors.
Better to accept Plagiarus Preapotens and things from RPG like a part of extended universe that placed separately from films prime canon, the core universe.But to me its breaking what has been set up as ground rules for how xenomorphs work.
Been thinking about this and I have a theory of what we might be up against for the worse and good for those who dont follow the past lore as strict:
The story will take place on either a space station or a planet where weyland yutani is doing experiments on the perfect organism and weaponise it(althought he movies and novels say they never got their hands on them, especielly resurrection)
And they have been breeding them for several generations when they escape and we will probably follow that scientists story and escape from the base.
The normal xenomorphs will be the cannon fodder as the true villain will be more advanced xenos, namely the human/xeno female hybrid(why else would they show it in the trailer?) She will be the one controlling the xenomorphs and is the result of many generations of xenomorphs breed with humans, after a while the xenos dna has been exhanged to more human and hence the human look and breasts and eyes etc. (they said in interview that they would show what happens when you breed xenos with same hosts for a long time and this would explain this new creature).
And it will become a fight between her and her army of xenomorphs, normal and mutated ones and the weyland yutani scientist trying to escape.
(but this ruins the meaning of xenomorphs being the perfect creature and now we will have something more human which the story writer wants to be seen as even better, it would solve one issue with the xenomorph and fit marvels story writing with adding new charachters and villains: having a human/xeno hybrid would allow the xenomorphs to talk and have a development as a charachter, you cant that with the normal xeno. But this breaks the ground rules for the xenos so damn much I cant even begin. First: the normal xenomorph is perfect and the ultimate creature, not this thing, now we just nerf the xeno to insects and having these new hybrids as superiour, they arent even xenomorphs... Also, if xenomorphs change by doing their breeding, we will not have the original xeno after a while as they mutate into something very different, and we know from the lore: queens dont take on hosts dna and dont ever change so this idea of: you can evolve the xenomorphs by letting them breed for generations with the same hosts is breaking the established lore, ton of games, comics and even predator movies showing they dont work like that.)
Seems its hard to follow simple ground rules set up after 30 years and instead we see marvel ignore much of it in the art and doing new things the xenomorphs never done before, degrading what is: the perfect organism, its not enough we must add hybrids and humanoid xenos into this. xD
Someone remind me after the whole story is out to reply to this twitter reply from the writer, if the marvel story indeed do make the idea I presented above or even more ground rule breaking stuff for their story, because that is jumping the shark in my book and ignoring all past lore:
https://twitter.com/PhillipKJohnson/status/1365730368649887745Although its my theory baseds on whats been said and shown and what if its not due to black goe or royal jelly etc, hopefully im very wrong
But have to see.
