"They replaced him two days before we left Thedus with Ash."

Started by Local Trouble, Jan 23, 2014, 06:12:55 PM

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"They replaced him two days before we left Thedus with Ash." (Read 4,634 times)

Infected

Yes the Original crew member was Lt Gorman's father, so you know have the Ripley family saving mankind from the xeno's and on the other hand you have the Gorman's fckn everything up.
Its aallllllllll related.

Valaquen

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 24, 2014, 12:07:24 AM
I didn't get the impression that androids were commonly deployed on ships during that era, covertly or otherwise. Ripley's reaction to Bishop's presence on the Sulaco certainly indicated to me that it wasn't a common practice in her day.
According to Ridley, the Company are insistent "on placing a company man on each vehicle. In this vehicle, he takes the form of a robot, Ash. This would seem to be the normal development of a huge corporation trying to protect its interests. In this particular future, it would be very easy for 'pirating' to exist. Corporations will have to find ways to assure that vehicles carrying minerals or vital information will not be hijacked."

He elaborated on the idea of robots and corporations within the wider, but unseen, Alien universe, saying: "[T]he world has been converted into the property of two or three large conglomerates whose sources of energy are provided by the exploitation of deposits in space. The super cargo spaceships that link Earth and the planets would transport enormous loads of minerals: gas, oil and the like. To dissuade the crews from rebelling and to protect their own interests, these companies might place spies aboard, or at least would make the crews believe in the presence of such spies. Gradually a legend would evolve that these people, whose identities remain unknown , are in fact robots. Furthermore, nobody would ever have proof. This would reinforce legends already currently among the astronauts."

Local Trouble

I suppose the problem for the company would be that even a die-hard company man would be unlikely to risk his own neck just to protect company interests.  Only a robot like Ash would do so without question.

ChrisPachi

Unfortunately for the Company Ash turned out to be batshit insane.

Elmazalman

That could have been Ripley's handy work or a glitch in Ash's system,the A2's were supposed to be "twitchy".

Local Trouble

Maybe he went nuts like HAL 9000 over having contradictory orders.

Elmazalman

Right up until the end Ash was a loyal company tool.

SM

QuoteUnfortunately for the Company Ash turned out to be batshit insane.

Following orders is "batshit insane"?

whiterabbit

whiterabbit

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Ash was following company orders till the very end. Hell I thought it was obvious in the film that Ash didn't want anyone killed. He was probably programmed as a medical officer before being updated by the company to retrieve the alien. He did try to remove the face hunger and probably didn't really know what was going on with Kane's brat. Even when his "programming" clearly insisted that he murder Ripley he tried to do it with a rolled up porno mag. Instead of just snapping her neck. He looked to be in pain or conflicted at very the least. Maybe the companies programing was conflicting with some sort of Asimov law buried deep in him. f**k he even had sympathy for the SOL leftovers aboard the Nostromo.

You know: "there is an explanation for this". Maybe Ripley should have heard him out first. :P

ChrisPachi

QuoteFollowing orders is "batshit insane"?

Generally speaking that depends on whose orders you are following, however shoving a rolled up magazine down someones throat after beating them half to death because they read your manifesto is quite insane and entirely counter productive.  If Ash's job was to secure the alien then he went way off the map. Malfunction comes to mind.

SM

"Crew expendable" comes more to mind.

Valaquen

Quote from: SM on Jan 28, 2014, 12:10:53 AM
"Crew expendable" comes more to mind.
Such a creepy piece of text (in the film, not your post) ;D

Local Trouble

Now that you mention it, SM's brevity does seem a bit spooky sometimes.

Valaquen

Quote from: Local Trouble on Jan 28, 2014, 01:48:43 AM
Now that you mention it, SM's brevity does seem a bit spooky sometimes.
Yes, very to the point. Not a word is wasted. Very efficient and... Robotic... Should we suspect you, SM?  :P

SM

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