Alien: Earth "Feels Huge;" Hawley Series' First 3 Episodes "Excellent

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The Cruentus

Perhaps multiple origins would would work so prequels could just be a what if, just one potenial string.

One thing I would say is while I don't like the black goo, I did like what W-Y was doing with it in Romulus.
Instead of the "bio-weapons" angle that is constantly used, the experiments are to improve colony living for humans and that does make sense when you consider the threats humans have to deal with when it comes to colonization. Diseases, bacteria and fungi that the immune system would have not recognize how to deal with due to humans not evolving in those environments.

That being said, if such ideas are used in the series or any other alien media that ignores the prequel, they will need to change the compound from being black goo to something else that comes from the Aliens.

BigDaddyJohn

Prometheus is quite disliked where I'm from. Vast majority of people I know absolutely wish Hawley ignores the prequels.

Zazeren

Quote from: [cancerblack] on Dec 30, 2024, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: Zazeren on Dec 30, 2024, 09:41:26 AM
Quote from: Oasis Nadrama on Dec 25, 2024, 11:14:52 PMYeah, and frankly I think by this point the Prometheus hate has become more of a marginal echo chamber than anything else.

Again, it's been the most commercially successful movie in the entire franchise, it's been twelve years and every official Alien product and their neighbour use elements introduced by Prometheus, I don't see it this despised and I absolutely don't see it frontally fought by Noah's work.

What could be interesting would be for some of the themes in the TV series were a kind of answer and discussion with the prequels, like the last parts of Alien: Romulus were.

I don't think it'll happen, though! I think Noah is gonna do his own thing. He won't contradict or deny the prequels, we will certainly see some elements of them even, but he will tell a vastly different story and go to vastly different places.

The idea that Prometheus is accepted by the general audience is deeply hilarious

Because it simply isn't true

Covenant declined by 50 percent, the box office drop was consistent with an audience that deeply loathed the first movie

It's also hilarious how anyone can interpret any of Noah's statements as prequel positive

He said himself that he is going to take a massive dump on David and would ignore the prequels in their entirety

And even said as much that this is deeply rooted in his portrayal of the alien as an organism that isn't a bioweapon

People who touch grass generally like Prometheus, just not as much as the first two films. The hate for it only exists on the internet.

Covenant though is legitimately disliked by the average punter.

Only the chronically online like Prometheus

As proven by covenant's box office returns and the negative reaction to Romulus's ending

skhellter

Covenant didn't do well because it was a sequel to Prometheus without Shaw, the actual lead character from the first movie.
It also didn't give people any answers to what was asked in the first film.

Those ARE the most common complaints from people who aren't terminally online.

Neila

Neila

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I like Prometheus and I like Covenant even more because it brought the plot of Prometheus back into the right, clear direction, namely being an Alien prequel.

Even if most people don't like the prequels, you don't necessarily have to ignore it. The focus could be placed on other aspects of the Alien Earth show and nothing from the prequels would need to be explored further or mentioned much.
However, their existence does not have to be denied because of this.

I think it would be very weak if a film were to be completely ignored.
it is the cheapest way to generate something new.
I always prefer a way to tie everything together.
there would (still) be ways to do that.


Prometheus and Covenant did not do the damage to the Alien brand that THE Predator did to the Predator franchise.

Blomkamp's A5 would also have been a case that would have damaged too much.
But Prometheus  and Covenant are absolutely not part of it, because there are enough possibilities to steer it in a different direction without completely canceling these films.

Even now there are still ways to declare the space jockeys a biomechanical race and have the xenos as an ancient species from the depths of space.
Nevertheless, the Engineers and David can continue to exist.

Slutty Badger

Quote from: Neila on Jan 01, 2025, 11:07:05 AMEven now there are still ways to declare the space jockeys a biomechanical race and have the xenos as an ancient species from the depths of space.
Nevertheless, the Engineers and David can continue to exist.

The RPG does just that.

Corporal Hicks

Corporal Hicks

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Quote from: Slutty Badger on Jan 01, 2025, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: Neila on Jan 01, 2025, 11:07:05 AMEven now there are still ways to declare the space jockeys a biomechanical race and have the xenos as an ancient species from the depths of space.
Nevertheless, the Engineers and David can continue to exist.

The RPG does just that.

While I love that the expanded universe is going in this direction, I do hope the cinematic universe will steer us back in this direction.

Quote from: Neila on Jan 01, 2025, 11:07:05 AMI like Prometheus and I like Covenant even more because it brought the plot of Prometheus back into the right, clear direction, namely being an Alien prequel.

Prometheus is still unsatisfying to me, but some critiques around the use of the Alien itself in Covenant aside, one of the things I always appreciated about Covenant was that it felt like a redo to me. It went back to a more Spaihts' take and I love that.

BigDaddyJohn

I would be fine with Alien Earth not using anything from the EU.

Zazeren

Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 01, 2025, 01:26:45 PM
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Jan 01, 2025, 11:16:14 AM
Quote from: Neila on Jan 01, 2025, 11:07:05 AMEven now there are still ways to declare the space jockeys a biomechanical race and have the xenos as an ancient species from the depths of space.
Nevertheless, the Engineers and David can continue to exist.

The RPG does just that.

While I love that the expanded universe is going in this direction, I do hope the cinematic universe will steer us back in this direction.

Quote from: Neila on Jan 01, 2025, 11:07:05 AMI like Prometheus and I like Covenant even more because it brought the plot of Prometheus back into the right, clear direction, namely being an Alien prequel.

Prometheus is still unsatisfying to me, but some critiques around the use of the Alien itself in Covenant aside, one of the things I always appreciated about Covenant was that it felt like a redo to me. It went back to a more Spaihts' take and I love that.

Basically, if they use the RPG and just say that the jockeys and the aliens predate the engineers

No one would complain again

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