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Title: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Aliens1986fanboy on May 05, 2020, 05:46:10 AM
If they existed in real life I wouldn't like to encounter them
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kradan on May 05, 2020, 10:43:34 AM
God, no. Get away from me you, little bastards !
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Phobos on May 05, 2020, 12:20:10 PM
Kill it with fire.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Rankles75 on May 05, 2020, 03:00:18 PM
No, I admire their purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Samhain13 on May 05, 2020, 09:35:52 PM
As a kid yes. Only thing in the series that ever made me have nightmares with.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 06, 2020, 04:01:03 AM
This scene scared me when I was a child between 5 or 6 years old.  :laugh:



Plus, this one...

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: razeak on May 06, 2020, 04:04:24 AM
I had a nightmare where a facehugger crawled up from the space between my bed and wall. I was a wreck at bedtime until I was probably 13 or 14 lol. I saw Aliens when I was 6.

I had nightmares for a looooong time lol.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on May 06, 2020, 02:15:56 PM
The Facehugger jumping at Kane makes me jump, consistently, every single damn time I watch the movie. Alongside the blood test scene in The Thing, which also always makes me jump, I'd say that there's an argument for it being one of the most effective jump scares in movie history.

Also, the scene with Ripley and Newt locked in the room with the Facehuggers in Aliens is so intensely unsettling and anxiety inducing.

So yeah... I find the Facehuggers to be scary. :D
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 06, 2020, 02:23:39 PM
The sound is superb.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Stitch on May 06, 2020, 03:22:16 PM
Not to watch, but I wouldn't like to meet one in person
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on May 06, 2020, 03:55:40 PM
I used to be afraid of spiders.



Plus, the Facehugger looks like a skeleton hand from time to time.  :-\

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: LV-12986 on May 10, 2020, 03:28:01 PM
I find the resemblance of a spider and no eyes very unsettling.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Mala'kak on May 10, 2020, 04:15:37 PM
No I would like them as a pet :)
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 04, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
Literally the only scary part of Aliens (and that's not a slam, as Cameron never intended it to be a scary movie) is when that Facehugger jumps towards the camera in Ripley's POV. That part made me flinch back in alarm, last time I watched the movie.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Of course he intended it to be scary.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huggs on Sep 04, 2020, 10:42:37 PM
Can't remember ever finding the facehuggers scary.
Too bulky and no emotion. If they had really spindly spider legs, then maybe.

But they dont.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Sep 04, 2020, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Sep 04, 2020, 10:42:37 PM

If they had really spindly spider legs, then maybe.

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Tichinde on Sep 04, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
I mean, knowing what we know about them, couldn't you just cover your mouth or keep it closed and not be impregnated?

Just a thought, there is also just ya know putting your hands over your orifices and waiting until the thing dies  :P
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Nightmare Asylum on Sep 04, 2020, 10:49:30 PM
And yet, it managed to melt right through a space helmet. I don't think burning through a fleshy hand should provide much issue. ;)
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huggs on Sep 04, 2020, 10:52:07 PM
Could send the host into shock though.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Sep 04, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
I mean, knowing what we know about them, couldn't you just cover your mouth or keep it closed and not be impregnated?

Just a thought, there is also just ya know putting your hands over your orifices and waiting until the thing dies  :P

The tail chokes the host into unconsciousness.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huggs on Sep 04, 2020, 11:12:39 PM
...and then there's that.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 04, 2020, 11:28:46 PM
Quote from: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 11:11:15 PM
Quote from: Tichinde on Sep 04, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
I mean, knowing what we know about them, couldn't you just cover your mouth or keep it closed and not be impregnated?

Just a thought, there is also just ya know putting your hands over your orifices and waiting until the thing dies  :P

The tail chokes the host into unconsciousness.

Even if it didn't, it may also have the same fast-acting paralytic neurotoxin that the soldiers allegedly use on their abductees.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: razeak on Sep 05, 2020, 01:53:15 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Of course he intended it to be scary.

Yep. Several scenes are scary throughout on first viewing.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: 426Buddy on Sep 05, 2020, 01:56:36 AM
Always found Aliens terrifying as a kid. Mainly ripleys dream, the chest bursting, and the facehugger sequence (which is done masterfully), aliens in the ceiling, the queen coming out of the elevator, and the queen looking for newt under the floor.

Alien didn't actually scare me much.

Alien 3 scared me into thinking the family dog was going to burst an alien
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:14:38 AM
We were throwing around ideas way back in the gamegossip days and somebody suggested that you could try a film with only facehuggers as the adversary to try and be scary.

Obviously I don't think a full film would work, but a small cast of one or two people in a short film could work.


Of course, I have evolved from finding any alien film remotely scary, but maybe some fresh blood might find it creepy. 
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 05, 2020, 02:18:17 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Of course he intended it to be scary.

No, he didn't. He says as much on the commentary he did for the special edition.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:20:13 AM
Uh oh SM.  This guy just flopped his willy off the side of the bridge and told you the water was deep.



YOUR MOVE.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huggs on Sep 05, 2020, 02:20:41 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:14:38 AM
We were throwing around ideas way back in the gamegossip days and somebody suggested that you could try a film with only facehuggers as the adversary to try and be scary.

Obviously I don't think a full film would work, but a small cast of one or two people in a short film could work.

Specimen kind of did this.


Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:20:13 AM
Uh oh SM.  This guy just flopped his willy off the side of the bridge and told you the water was deep.



YOUR MOVE.

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 05, 2020, 03:58:21 AM
Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:20:13 AM
Uh oh SM.  This guy just flopped his willy off the side of the bridge and told you the water was deep.

Is he from Arkansas?
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kradan on Sep 05, 2020, 07:28:02 AM
Quote from: Tichinde on Sep 04, 2020, 10:48:35 PM
I mean, knowing what we know about them, couldn't you just cover your mouth or keep it closed and not be impregnated?

Just a thought, there is also just ya know putting your hands over your orifices and waiting until the thing dies  :P

Well, it can always suffocate you enough to force your mouth open. The tail isn't for nothing
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: AliceApocalypse on Sep 08, 2020, 06:31:12 PM
Face raping spiders the size of cats, oh no thank you.  That's creepy scary.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 08, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 05, 2020, 02:18:17 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Of course he intended it to be scary.

No, he didn't. He says as much on the commentary he did for the special edition.



From about 7 minutes onwards.  Winston and Cameron.

There's monsters stalking and killing people and jumping on their faces and bursting out their chests - but no, it's not meant to be scary.  Just because Cameron didn't try to make it as scary as Alien - doesn't mean he didn't try to make it scary.

Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:20:13 AM
Uh oh SM.  This guy just flopped his willy off the side of the bridge and told you the water was deep.



YOUR MOVE.

The bridge I'm standing on the is on Jimbob Cameron's ship over the Marianas trench and I'm telling you it's deep.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 08, 2020, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Jun 26, 2014, 06:11:40 AM
Oh snap.  He just done gone got SM'inated!
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: kwisatz on Sep 08, 2020, 11:12:35 PM
What's not to like about a good Schwanzvergleich?
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 08, 2020, 11:14:52 PM
The taste test?
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: kwisatz on Sep 08, 2020, 11:21:06 PM
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: saltypistol on Sep 09, 2020, 03:27:45 AM
They haven't been scary since Aliens imo. Alien 3 onwards they are either just used as a plot device or misused in flashy action scenes (looking at you AVP)
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 09, 2020, 03:48:59 AM
In what way are they plot devices from Alien 3 onwards?
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kradan on Sep 09, 2020, 05:43:01 AM
Well, I guess, one nasty facehugger started the plot of Alien 3 with its own blood
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 05:59:56 AM
So did the original facehugger.

The only film I would argue they aren't effectively "plot devices" is Aliens, if we consider them plot devices after.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 09, 2020, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 08, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 05, 2020, 02:18:17 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Of course he intended it to be scary.

No, he didn't. He says as much on the commentary he did for the special edition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekTN0ZF7gvE

From about 7 minutes onwards.  Winston and Cameron.

There's monsters stalking and killing people and jumping on their faces and bursting out their chests - but no, it's not meant to be scary.  Just because Cameron didn't try to make it as scary as Alien - doesn't mean he didn't try to make it scary.

Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:20:13 AM
Uh oh SM.  This guy just flopped his willy off the side of the bridge and told you the water was deep.



YOUR MOVE.

The bridge I'm standing on the is on Jimbob Cameron's ship over the Marianas trench and I'm telling you it's deep.

Okay, and Cameron on the commentary says differently. So we've both got contradicting statements from the same source. Thus we're at an impasse, you sarcastic f**k.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 09, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
Come-on folk, no need to get on at each other.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 09, 2020, 11:44:49 AM
Cameron - ...that was our intention going in, to do a film that was not as scary... it's scary, but it's not as scary, but more intense...

Full interview (https://www.lofficier.com/cameron.htm)

What does he say on the commentary then?
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 11:59:16 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 09, 2020, 11:44:49 AM
Cameron - ...that was our intention going in, to do a film that was not as scary... it's scary, but it's not as scary, but more intense...

Full interview (https://www.lofficier.com/cameron.htm)

What does he say on the commentary then?

Full Question and Quote:


YouHaveMySympahties quote:

Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 04, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
Literally the only scary part of Aliens (and that's not a slam, as Cameron never intended it to be a scary movie) is when that Facehugger jumps towards the camera in Ripley's POV. That part made me flinch back in alarm, last time I watched the movie.



I don't think we have a problem here...
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: 426Buddy on Sep 09, 2020, 12:39:27 PM
Sounds like Aliens was intended to be scary but not as scary as Alien.

It would be pretty silly to think that Aliens was not intended to be scary at all.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 01:01:05 PM
Of course, I don't think anyone was saying that. The film features scary alien creatures that kill people!  But with any effort to be intentionally less scary, you're going to get less scary results. And that's why it's not a slam, when it's intentional.  It's the T2 of Alien movies. :)
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kradan on Sep 09, 2020, 04:41:25 PM
More like T2 is Aliens of Terminator films if you consider what came earlier
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kimarhi on Sep 09, 2020, 04:45:51 PM
Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 09, 2020, 10:20:06 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 08, 2020, 10:50:41 PM
Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 05, 2020, 02:18:17 AM
Quote from: SM on Sep 04, 2020, 10:19:59 PM
Of course he intended it to be scary.

No, he didn't. He says as much on the commentary he did for the special edition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekTN0ZF7gvE

From about 7 minutes onwards.  Winston and Cameron.

There's monsters stalking and killing people and jumping on their faces and bursting out their chests - but no, it's not meant to be scary.  Just because Cameron didn't try to make it as scary as Alien - doesn't mean he didn't try to make it scary.

Quote from: Kimarhi on Sep 05, 2020, 02:20:13 AM
Uh oh SM.  This guy just flopped his willy off the side of the bridge and told you the water was deep.



YOUR MOVE.

The bridge I'm standing on the is on Jimbob Cameron's ship over the Marianas trench and I'm telling you it's deep.

Okay, and Cameron on the commentary says differently. So we've both got contradicting statements from the same source. Thus we're at an impasse, you sarcastic f**k.

Lol.

That's why you can't use out of universe info for reasons something happens in universe.  Both directors and writers opinions never stay the same.

Looking at you Mal.....
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 09:14:49 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 01:01:05 PM
Of course, I don't think anyone was saying that.
It's right here in the post you quoted:

Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 04, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
Literally the only scary part of Aliens (and that's not a slam, as Cameron never intended it to be a scary movie)
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: 426Buddy on Sep 09, 2020, 09:52:39 PM
Yeah I was just going to say, isn't that exactly what YouHaveMySympahties said? :laugh:

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 10:04:45 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 09:14:49 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 01:01:05 PM
Of course, I don't think anyone was saying that.
It's right here in the post you quoted:

Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 04, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
Literally the only scary part of Aliens (and that's not a slam, as Cameron never intended it to be a scary movie)

It's better to bold it in the entire quote:

Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 04, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
Literally the only scary part of Aliens (and that's not a slam, as Cameron never intended it to be a scary movie) is when that Facehugger jumps towards the camera in Ripley's POV. That part made me flinch back in alarm, last time I watched the movie.

But he also mentioned in the same paragraph a scary part of Aliens. Is he contradicting himself? Do you think OP believes it was accidentally scary? Facehuggers, chestbursters are often scary regardless, it's hard to avoid.

This is all one step above clobbering over punctuation to me. Now I don't know his or her background,  but we're dealing with a lot of fans with English as their second language, but I knew what the OP meant, and I'm pretty certain most of the rest familiar with Aliens and its backstory did too.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 10:11:04 PM
You said no one claimed it wasn't meant to be scary, and I showed you someone flat out claiming it wasn't meant to be scary.

He then defended the statement by pointing out Cameron said as much in a commentary for the film (although didn't provide the quote), and doubled down on that same defense when questioned.

I don't know what more you want.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 10:16:01 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 10:11:04 PM
You said no one claimed it wasn't meant to be scary, and I showed you someone flat out claiming it wasn't meant to be scary.

He then defended the statement by pointing out Cameron said as much in a commentary for the film (although didn't provide the quote), and doubled down on that same defense when questioned.

I don't know what more you want.

An actual response to what I laid out in my post perhaps?  ;D
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 10:21:57 PM
I addressed the part where you asserted you "knew what he meant" despite arguing something other than what he had been quite clear and consistent about in his own words.

The user thinks the film wasn't intended to be scary. I don't know why you're trying to argue otherwise and downplay his own words and even intimate the person maybe doesn't speak English well for the sake of you winning an argument.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 10:36:28 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 10:21:57 PM
I addressed the part where you asserted you "knew what he meant" despite arguing something other than what he had been quite clear and consistent about in his own words.

The user thinks the film wasn't intended to be scary. I don't know why you're trying to argue otherwise and downplay his own words and even intimate the person maybe doesn't speak English well for the sake of you winning an argument.

Ah, "winning". That's the crux of it right there. Is there ever winning with SMs legal defense team?  OPs post mentioned something scary in Aliens. By that admission, he knows while not designed as a scary horror film, there are scares in Aliens. I may be wrong, but OPs posts also reads (to me) that English isn't his first language. I also know exactly what the OP was referring to in regards to how Cameron shaped Aliens. Maybe OP should have inserted "as" before scary, because there are some that will drive down on that and attack it. What can you do.

We'll agree to disagree mate!
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: kwisatz on Sep 09, 2020, 10:43:25 PM
Well the user said it's not intended as a scray movie.

Going by that interview answer Cameron doesn't outright say Aliens is an action movie per se (I think).

But he says:

Quotebut more intense, and I like to use the word, exhilarating. Because I think you get exhilarated by the intensity of the kind of action that's in this film.

I leave it to the native speakers and film experts to conclusively categorize this type of movie.  ;D

(I gotta say, I'm a bit impressed. I didn't know Cameron was this level of slick with words -- and spontaneously in an interview that is)

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 10:36:28 PM
Maybe OP should have inserted "as" before scary, because there are some that will drive down on that and attack it. What can you do.
OP's own words when confronted with Cameron saying it wasn't meant to be "as" scary:

Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 09, 2020, 10:20:06 AM
Okay, and Cameron on the commentary says differently. So we've both got contradicting statements from the same source. Thus we're at an impasse,

Again, I don't know why you're insisting you know better than them what they mean when they have been very clear. There is nothing wrong with their ability to communicate for themselves.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 09, 2020, 10:49:52 PM
I thought he was from Arkansas.  ???
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 11:00:02 PM
 :laugh:

Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 10:44:06 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 09, 2020, 10:36:28 PM
Maybe OP should have inserted "as" before scary, because there are some that will drive down on that and attack it. What can you do.
OP's own words when confronted with Cameron saying it wasn't meant to be "as" scary:

Quote from: YouHaveMySympahties on Sep 09, 2020, 10:20:06 AM
Okay, and Cameron on the commentary says differently. So we've both got contradicting statements from the same source. Thus we're at an impasse,

I thought it was a reply to featurette versus commentary where Cameron talked about fear and never mentioned "as scary" as SM did.

QuoteAgain, I don't know why you're insisting you know better than them what they mean when they have been very clear. There is nothing wrong with their ability to communicate for themselves.

I guess we're both guilty of that SM, I mean SiL.   ;) ;D
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 11:02:19 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Sep 09, 2020, 10:49:52 PM
I thought he was from Arkansas.  ???
I feel a bit dirty, but I went and read all seven of the guy's posts and I'm not picking up that English is their second language, or that they struggle with it. If anything he's quite eloquent. I don't get where the idea is coming from that it's his second language, or that he's not perfectly capable of expressing himself quite clearly ???

Feels weird and patronising to even suggest.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huggs on Sep 09, 2020, 11:03:45 PM
Scary is subjective.

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 09, 2020, 11:07:06 PM
At least we can all agree that Alien 3 wasn't even remotely scary.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 11:11:43 PM
I don't know about that, I know some people who are scared of needles who lose it at Clemens' "So, do you still trust me with a needle" while brandishing a big f**k-off needle.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: 426Buddy on Sep 09, 2020, 11:15:23 PM
ALIEN3 scared me when I was 8, thought our dog was going to burst at night while we were all asleep.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 09, 2020, 11:21:40 PM
Quote from: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 11:11:43 PM
I don't know about that, I know some people who are scared of needles who lose it at Clemens' "So, do you still trust me with a needle" while brandishing a big f**k-off needle.

The scariest moment in Alien 3:

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 09, 2020, 11:26:10 PM
I always remember that needle looking more intimidating.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huggs on Sep 09, 2020, 11:27:20 PM
Forgetting that he already stuck her once before.

And no, that wasn't a sex joke.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: razeak on Sep 10, 2020, 03:40:21 AM
Well that was a turn lol.    If you need to see the intention to be scary, just watch the movie. Many moments were clearly set up to evoke horror or fear.

Newt jump scare
Alien takes newt
Motion tracker suspense to build fear
Aliens in the suspended ceiling
Aliens moving in give before attack
Queen reveal
Queen emerges from shadows in elevator
Aliens in air ducts
Marines investigating colony
Alien gets shot by Hicks in elevator jump scare

The lighting, composition, everything is for tension or fear.


It's not just an action movie....not even close.


Its a masterful blend of several genres.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Voodoo Magic on Sep 10, 2020, 12:16:31 PM
Quote from: razeak on Sep 10, 2020, 03:40:21 AM
Well that was a turn lol.    If you need to see the intention to be scary, just watch the movie. Many moments were clearly set up to evoke horror or fear.

Newt jump scare
Alien takes newt
Motion tracker suspense to build fear
Aliens in the suspended ceiling
Aliens moving in give before attack
Queen reveal
Queen emerges from shadows in elevator
Aliens in air ducts
Marines investigating colony
Alien gets shot by Hicks in elevator jump scare

The lighting, composition, everything is for tension or fear.


It's not just an action movie....not even close.


Its a masterful blend of several genres.

No chestbursting? Ripley's nightmare is one of my favorites!
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 10, 2020, 01:15:56 PM
I won't say I find them scary since I'm desensitized to a lot of things but I would rather have my head caved in my an Alien's jaws than get attacked by a facehugger. Death by chestburster has got to be one of the worst ways to go, minus burning to death of course.
So huggers are definitely to be avoided, especially since it doesn't matter how strong you are, the little bast***s can overpower you in seconds.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Drukathi on Sep 10, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
As a child, yes. Now - obviously no.
I was scared as a child by facehuggers and chestbursters. Alien - 50/50, it didn't scare me like a terrifying space monster or blahblahblah. But just a normal predator animal, like anaconda, tigers, crocodile, ect.

That's why I created a thread in which I asked - should an Alien be scary? No. It's just an animal. With some intelligence. But animal. Obviously, The Thing and the Monster in a basket are much more terrible and more unpleasant than the Alien. At least the Alien cannot fit under the bed. ;D
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 10, 2020, 01:34:41 PM
An animal that can paralyze you within seconds of attachment, not to mention far stronger than what it's size indicates.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Drukathi on Sep 10, 2020, 01:43:58 PM
In this case, the Alien looks even more believable than the terrifying real life forms on Earth. :P
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 10, 2020, 01:48:11 PM
I find that its plausibility is what makes it more scary, as something like that can potentially be real, minus a few improbable things of course. I mean we already got parasites like facehuggers and some insects can carry more than twice their body weight.

That being said, The Thing is on another level of scary because it could be in the room with you without you knowing. Could be someone preparing your food or drinks, or even a roomate that will wait until you fall asleep before assimilating you.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 11, 2020, 11:37:04 PM
Speaking of which...

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 11, 2020, 11:52:40 PM
Who is he ripping off now?
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 12, 2020, 12:01:46 AM
Good question.  Does Xenopedia even have a page about The Thing?
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 12, 2020, 12:45:55 AM
Stories have been told about threads here suddenly becoming Alien Theory videos.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 12, 2020, 01:06:19 AM
I wonder how much he gets paid for that.  He has nearly 200k subscribers.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 12:08:44 PM
I would not be surprised if he has lifted information from the The Thing wikia, its what he does. I am not going watch the video to find out though, as the idea of enabling a parasite makes my stomach turn....even if it only counts as one view.  :laugh:

Xenopedia does not have a page on the thing but should a crossover ever happen, then there would be.

I think its time I started uploading to our channel and make an introduction video naming and shaming the plagiarists, at the same I will report the channels to youtube and start seeing what can be done about them. Either way, viewers are going to know where the information of those videos are coming from and that they taking credit for it. Its been on hold for too long now, I'll start today I think.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 12, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
The fact it's 8 minutes long rather than a succinct "Of course not, the films were made 30 years apart by completely different teams for different studios for entirely unrelated projects" tells me everything I need to know.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SM on Sep 12, 2020, 01:03:41 PM
He did one a while back about whether Newt saw her mum in the hive in Aliens. Don't know if he'd stolen it, but it was just dishonest in cherry picking information and cropping images from comics that would instantly torpedo his argument.

This sounds like one of those.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 01:17:11 PM
I don't know why folks don't just be honest and put forth original content, stealing content only shows how scummy and lacking in any respect they are, not to mention they achieve nothing but false recognition.

Uploaded me first video on the Xenopedia channel, its just a let's play I did. Something to add to the channel before I start uploading lore videos.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Sep 12, 2020, 02:00:45 PM
The most successful channels in YouTube are generally some kind of content farm. Coming up with original or genuinely insightful content is too time consuming to be profitable.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 02:03:50 PM
Personally I would prefer original and insightful content to something quick and profitable. You pour of yourself into it when you make the effort and it becomes something that you can be proud of.

Youtube is a pain in the backside, have to tweak a few things just to upload one video.  :P
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 12, 2020, 02:11:43 PM
You get copyright striked? Got to avoid using any of the proper music, that's a certainty.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 02:13:14 PM
No, it due to length. Forgot to verify channel.  :P

I'll always give credit to anything I use that is not mine. I put disclaimers as well.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Corporal Hicks on Sep 12, 2020, 02:18:33 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 02:13:14 PM
No, it due to length. Forgot to verify channel.  :P

Ah! Fair enough. Looking forward to giving it a watch! What game?

QuoteI'll always give credit to anything I use that is not mine. I put disclaimers as well.

I would never expect otherwise! It's more YouTube algorithms picks up like proper Alien/Predator music really well, and will just copyright strike you or take monetization off straight away.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 02:21:34 PM
I uploaded a let's play of AVP2010. I forgot the game crashed during the stream so you will have to forgive that  :laugh:
Was a little rusty too.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Local Trouble on Sep 12, 2020, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Sep 12, 2020, 12:08:44 PMI think its time I started uploading to our channel and make an introduction video naming and shaming the plagiarists, at the same I will report the channels to youtube and start seeing what can be done about them. Either way, viewers are going to know where the information of those videos are coming from and that they taking credit for it. Its been on hold for too long now, I'll start today I think.

;D

I feel like the guy who laid all those rakes around Sideshow Bob right now.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 08, 2021, 03:03:38 AM
The Facehugger is the most terrifying of the Xeno life cycle because of anticipation. If you get one on your face and wake up you know you're going to die horribly. The Chestburster is dyad with facehugger, the Facehugger is more terrifying because you know its impregnating you with a chestburster.

There is a Spider in Australia that comes close to the Facehugger in size and color called The Huntsman Spider.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Jul 08, 2021, 05:07:17 AM
Huntsmen are nowhere near the size of facehuggers  :laugh:

They're also brown and furry.

Orb weavers, though ...
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 08, 2021, 05:50:05 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 08, 2021, 05:07:17 AM
Huntsmen are nowhere near the size of facehuggers  :laugh:

They're also brown and furry.

Orb weavers, though ...

Dare I look up Orb Weavers? Woah Sigourney Weaver, Weavers.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jul 08, 2021, 06:04:49 AM
Only the pain of the ribcage breaking open, or the acid spilling on me scares me. Maybe if scientists could remove the impregnation feature, and if you wanted to just enter into comas at random times, you could get a therapy facehugger, but I doubt most insurances would cover that. >:(
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Jan 04, 2011, 03:41:24 AM
If you were a facehugger, I'd have your baby!
I don't think I'm as willing to try for exotic experiences as I once was...
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: SiL on Jul 08, 2021, 06:49:16 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 08, 2021, 05:50:05 AM
Quote from: SiL on Jul 08, 2021, 05:07:17 AM
Huntsmen are nowhere near the size of facehuggers  :laugh:

They're also brown and furry.

Orb weavers, though ...

Dare I look up Orb Weavers? Woah Sigourney Weaver, Weavers.
They're actually tiny, but there's a popular image at the moment of one in front of someone's hand that makes it look huge. They get up to about 2 inches long, minus legs, so they're fairly big -- just not that big.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Jul 08, 2021, 07:04:43 AM
Well apparently the Facehugger is real and on Mars no less:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I-kRr41aAw0  (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I-kRr41aAw0)

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: T-850 on Jun 30, 2022, 08:36:00 PM
The facehugger is probably the scariest part of the xenomorph lifecycle.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 01, 2022, 11:01:07 AM
I do. These shits were a pain in the ass in AVP2.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Jul 01, 2022, 02:20:34 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 01, 2022, 11:01:07 AMI do. These shits were a pain in the ass in AVP2.

And annoying in Alien Trilogy for the PS1.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kradan on Jul 01, 2022, 07:13:21 PM
Go play Resurrection on PS1. There these f**kers are at their most sadistic
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Jul 01, 2022, 09:30:56 PM
Quote from: Kradan on Jul 01, 2022, 07:13:21 PMGo play Resurrection on PS1. There these f**kers are at their most sadistic

Yep I have Alien Resurrection for the PS1.  However, I haven't completed it yet.  And I know what you mean about the Facehuggers... sadistic little f**kers.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: kwisatz on Jul 01, 2022, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Jul 01, 2022, 09:30:56 PMsadistic little f**kers.

They just want a hug

Spoiler
and a blow job
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Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Immortan Jonesy on Jul 01, 2022, 11:21:11 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 01, 2022, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: xeno_alpha_07 on Jul 01, 2022, 09:30:56 PMsadistic little f**kers.

They just want a hug

Spoiler
and a blow job
[close]


This one does the same thing but bigger

Spoiler

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Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: xeno_alpha_07 on Jul 02, 2022, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: kwisatz on Jul 01, 2022, 09:48:45 PM
Spoiler
and a blow job
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Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Jul 02, 2022, 09:24:09 PM
From what we could understand of the creature's anatomy, we can safely say it's even a
Spoiler
deepthroat at this point.
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Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Wweyland on Jul 04, 2022, 08:46:18 PM
I found them very scary in the AvP 1999 PC game. It was an instant death and we even didn't have save games (this was patched later).
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Jul 04, 2022, 08:58:57 PM
if we take the marvel comics into consideration  id say the dream/vision of the woman in the dark  the face hugger gives ya is scarier then them themselves
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 04, 2022, 09:18:44 PM
I can't even parse what you're saying but no.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: judge death on Jul 04, 2022, 09:28:32 PM
Facehuggers are scary, afterall they look like spiders and we humans are already afraid of those, facehuggers are even scarier version plus its body parts that is very human sexual organs looking, and that if one get facehugged, you are likely to die unless you have a medical team on hand to remove the embryo.(f**k you colonial marines and marvel, alien movies and dark horse and rpg says you can.)

But I would say the adult xenomorph shape is way scarier to face. :P
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: TilotnyWorshiper28 on Jul 05, 2022, 12:55:49 PM
Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Jul 04, 2022, 09:18:44 PMI can't even parse what you're saying but no.
its not that hard to get  but ok
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huntsman on Aug 14, 2022, 04:30:10 AM
They're the scariest part of the process, because they start it all and result in your death in one of the most painful and terrifying ways imaginable.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: (Bad Blood) on Aug 14, 2022, 10:45:31 AM
In my Opinion, No, but then I find no movie monsters or creatures scary as I spent too much time fascinated by them lol.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 14, 2022, 11:06:49 AM
I find them scary and disgusting. Too much spider like for my taste.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 14, 2022, 11:29:50 AM
My brother finds the Super one scary but only it.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huntsman on Aug 14, 2022, 12:13:55 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 14, 2022, 11:06:49 AMI find them scary and disgusting. Too much spider like for my taste.
Definitely. And the instinctual intelligence they show in hiding and waiting to attack at the right time.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 14, 2022, 12:27:52 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on Aug 14, 2022, 12:13:55 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 14, 2022, 11:06:49 AMI find them scary and disgusting. Too much spider like for my taste.
Definitely. And the instinctual intelligence they show in hiding and waiting to attack at the right time.

Smart vicious shits indeed.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: (Bad Blood) on Aug 15, 2022, 01:21:05 AM
Now if I faced them in real life I would be very afraid lol.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Cocolyte on Aug 15, 2022, 04:27:14 PM
Facehuggers are the only thing in Alien and Predator that scare me. I actually panic a tiny bit every time I see them. Especially once the psycho-sexual design motif was pointed out. I hate hate hate the idea of having something violate me like that. So claustrophobic and painful.

I have tonic clonic seizures sometimes, and let me tell you, having your body move on its own with you unable to resist is the most horrifying experience I've ever had. Not only is it physically painful, but it's psychological torture to your sense of bodily autonomy. Plus there's the very real fear of dying every time. Pair that with rape and forced impregnation and you have real nightmare fuel for me.

Of course, all that fear is what draws me to things like Alien. I live for fear.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 01:06:59 AM
Very much so. I find them most terrifying in Alien and AVP. For some reason their fear factor feels diminished in Aliens, Alien Resurrection, & Alien Covenant. Alien3 has that one creepy shot of seeing it from inside the cryotube, but otherwise its hard to see in those quick shots.


Yep, John J. Was killed in Aliens when they tried to take it off.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huntsman on Aug 16, 2022, 01:30:40 AM
Quote from: Cocolyte on Aug 15, 2022, 04:27:14 PMNot only is it physically painful, but it's psychological torture to your sense of bodily autonomy.
And the knowledge that once it's attached to your face it's not coming off. And when it does the damage has already been done.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 01:33:34 AM
Quote from: Huntsman on Aug 16, 2022, 01:30:40 AM
Quote from: Cocolyte on Aug 15, 2022, 04:27:14 PMNot only is it physically painful, but it's psychological torture to your sense of bodily autonomy.
And the knowledge that once it's attached to your face it's not coming off. And when it does the damage has already been done.

Well that depends.

In Aliens "patient John J., they killed him trying to take it off."

But in Alien Ressurection Ripley successfully gets one off underwater, and in Alien Covenant they get that one off the Wheat Guy.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 16, 2022, 01:49:25 AM
But he's already impregnated so it depends apparently.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huntsman on Aug 16, 2022, 02:13:13 AM
If you die in the process of taking it off it's a moot point.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BlueMarsalis79 on Aug 16, 2022, 11:28:18 AM
"They killed him taking it off." Always wondered how exactly, did it just strangle him to his end, or did they cut along the tail and burn a hole in his throat.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Kradan on Aug 16, 2022, 12:02:13 PM
Hmm, that's an interesting question, actually. I always took it as that during "facehugged" phase creature and its victim form a very close symbiotic relationship, one depends on another. So if you try to take facehugger off during that stage it will just shut down all of victim's vital organs. That's my interpretation
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 16, 2022, 05:25:21 PM
I interpreted it just the same.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 05:37:12 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on Aug 16, 2022, 02:13:13 AMIf you die in the process of taking it off it's a moot point.

I'd rather die that way than bursted. Just say'in.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 16, 2022, 06:17:12 PM
f**k yes. Bursting out is absolutely f**ked up. You feel the whole ordeal.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: Huntsman on Aug 18, 2022, 11:03:16 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 05:37:12 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on Aug 16, 2022, 02:13:13 AMIf you die in the process of taking it off it's a moot point.

I'd rather die that way than bursted. Just say'in.
Me too. Once the hugger goes on, you're almost certainly going to die. It's just about specifically how.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 19, 2022, 05:49:06 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on Aug 18, 2022, 11:03:16 AM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Aug 16, 2022, 05:37:12 PM
Quote from: Huntsman on Aug 16, 2022, 02:13:13 AMIf you die in the process of taking it off it's a moot point.

I'd rather die that way than bursted. Just say'in.
Me too. Once the hugger goes on, you're almost certainly going to die. It's just about specifically how.

Your only hope is surgery:

Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 19, 2022, 06:13:25 PM
Yep, they succeded with Ripley 8, but this kind of surgery is possibly not available for anybody.
Title: Re: Do you find the Facehuggers to be scary?
Post by: judge death on Aug 19, 2022, 06:21:02 PM
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Yesterday at 06:13:25 PMYep, they succeded with Ripley 8, but this kind of surgery is possibly not available for anybody.
Its possible to do but like you say its costly and manpower draining if one want to treat all people from a infestation, I would guess its more likely they just end up doing what the aliens book one comic did: they excecute the infested people.