1080p (1920x1080) version here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/prometheus_preview_1080_AvPGalaxy.net.rar (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/prometheus_preview_1080_AvPGalaxy.net.rar)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnP1KmO_l8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnP1KmO_l8#ws)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_UpJeK6Ho#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_UpJeK6Ho#ws)
http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/video/exclusive-5129897/prometheus-exclusive-teaser-trailer-28562736.html (http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/video/exclusive-5129897/prometheus-exclusive-teaser-trailer-28562736.html)
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Gah... I can't play that video on my PS3. Could somebody rip it and upload it to YouTube please? Or at least describe any new shots. Thanks.
Short. But some very cool new shots.
There's a lot we have seen already. It opens with the same shot of the Prometheus flying towards the planet but we see a new shot form the interior of a man standing above a huge glass window (I assume the front of the ship). Next we see shots of the prometheus on the planet and the buggys driving away from the ship followed by the huge dust cloud engulfing everything. The red lights from the teaser trailer come from spherical objects that one of the human characters throws up into the derelict - some kind of scanners?
We also see the guys with guns firing at another blue suited crew member who is slamming someone against a wall ( I assume) on board the prometheus.
The best shot at the end is one of a ship (prometheus?) taking off with the derelict flying in the distance, it looks like they're chasing it.
Thats about it as far as I can tell!
Some of the shots just look stunning. Glad to see they're not being modest with this - but with such hype, caan this movie really be an R rating?
Still not sure if the "horror" aspect is going to be more muted than in Alien. I'm beginning to think this is being pushed as more family friendly "sci-fi/adventure"
Holy shit. Thanks Darkoo.
Another trailer for a trailer.
-Chris
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from over here
http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/199 (http://www.prometheusforum.net/discussion/199)
I am feeling giddy, now.
Is that thing throwing the crew member even human? Looking kinda Jockey suit to me?
-Chris
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It's a pretty awesome looking spaceship. Must be said.
I think we just found our mohawked mutant. Ie. not a mutant, just an asshole.
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-Chris
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 12, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Is that thing throwing the crew member even human? Looking kinda Jockey suit to me?
-Chris
I think you might be right there. It looks much taller than the others and looks a bit on fire too
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That pod was falling downwards in the trailer. Could this be the escape pod that Vickers jumps into in the original teaser trailer, and the ship drops her down afterwards?
Also, check out the tats on the ball throwing guy's head.
Wow. That's a whole lotta CGI. :-\ And more Mutant Space Zombie madness!
Glad they're still using the original ALIEN trailer siren, now mixed with standard Blockbuster trailer choir instead of that tacky Inception BWAAHM :)
I am excite.
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Seeing this ship again still makes me wanna go all :'( with happehness.
The derelict form this angle reminds me of this:
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--So from what we can gather, it looks like the guy who throws the two red light balls gets turned into the mutant space zombie.
--Charlize apparently escapes in a distress pod as the ship speeds toward a collision with the Derelict.
--They must have angered the Jockeys or something, because that dust storm is chasing the team as they speed back to the ship before Noomi gets swept away by it (and then possibly abducted?).
The planetoid is stormy and theres a big planet with rings around it in the sky. :)
Download link?
??? Maybe it's the influence of the shitty music but some of those shots looked a bit like standard blockbuster shlock.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 12, 2012, 11:11:02 AM
??? Maybe it's the influence of the shitty music but some of those shots looked a bit like standard blockbuster shlock.
It's all the CGI. Makes everything look like a video game cut scene. Here's hoping the CGI setpieces are kept to a minimum, which I think they will be. Trailers like to showcase CGI because that's what stupid teenagers like to see.
It really doesn't help matters that this yahoo player WON'T bloody play.
It all looks rather mundane to be honest. I want stuff happening in space, not hovering over an atmospheric planet.
Maybe this is the 2/3's Fassbender mentioned before it turns into ALIEN territory for the end.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 12, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Is that thing throwing the crew member even human? Looking kinda Jockey suit to me?
-Chris
Watching it in motion I'd say it was the guy with the mohican and tattooed head, he's on fire and clearly crazy. More interesting though is in the background of that shot is what appears to be a very gruesome view of another crew member.. torn apart and laying on the floor, with a bloodied face and smoke rising from his carcass. R rated I'd have thought.
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Looks great (apart from space mutant) but the music is uninspiring heard it all before shite
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 11:23:44 AM
More interesting though is in the background of that shot is what appears to be a very gruesome view of another crew member.. torn apart and laying on the floor, with a bloodied face and smoke rising from his carcass. R rated I'd have thought.
That person has all their limbs so is not torn apart.
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 11:23:44 AM
More interesting though is in the background of that shot is what appears to be a very gruesome view of another crew member.. torn apart and laying on the floor, with a bloodied face and smoke rising from his carcass. R rated I'd have thought.
That person has all their limbs so is not torn apart.
Given the angry dude on fire in the foreground and the smoke emanating from the corpse; I'm going to hazard a guess and say 'death by flamethrower'.
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I'm seeing a Jockey suit and a big domed head. HD version will tell, maybe.
-Chris
Holy F'ing F!!! If the Yahoo player would actually play I would be really happy, now I can just stare in awe at those screen caps. AWESOME!
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 11:23:44 AM
More interesting though is in the background of that shot is what appears to be a very gruesome view of another crew member.. torn apart and laying on the floor, with a bloodied face and smoke rising from his carcass. R rated I'd have thought.
That person has all their limbs so is not torn apart.
Ok, it's family friendly then.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 12, 2012, 11:42:39 AM
I'm seeing a Jockey suit and a big domed head. HD version will tell, maybe.
-Chris
Nah, it's a crew member in the normal suit (the boots are the same) who has been partially toasted.
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
That person has all their limbs so is not torn apart.
Visor bashed in, face smashed to shit... looks pretty violent to me, dude.
The derelict from that angle in the new preview trailer screams alien. :)
Also looks like Mr Mutant has been working out. It seems he smashed in some guys face... as mentioned in that rumored fake-script leak. :P
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I'm seeing a Jockey suit and a big domed head. HD version will tell, maybe.
-Chris
I'm pretty positive that's a mutated human. You can just about make out his knee pads (his costume's most likely black because he's just been fired upon by a flamethrower). As for the head, it kind of does look like a Jockey but the same thing was said about the man below "the jumping man", until some HD footage cleared that up.
In fact, I personally believe that the man on fire is the "jumping man". The behind the scenes footage showed us him climbing up the side of an APC, on fire (presumably attempting to escape the flamethrowers being fired at him). We've all seen the shot that comes next, where he's jumping onto a flamethrower holding crew member ("hey, you guys!"). I suspect that this shot is him making the landing from the APC's roof and chucking the flamethrower guy across the room.
Actually, that "corpse" in the background may be the smouldering remains of his armoured vest (removed or thrown clear -prior or during the jump.
I'm noticing they are shooting lazerzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 12, 2012, 11:54:43 AM
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 11:35:28 AM
That person has all their limbs so is not torn apart.
Visor bashed in, face smashed to shit... looks pretty violent to me, dude.
I was taking 'torn apart' literally. Yes, he/she is most likely dead, probably punched right in the helmet :o .
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 12, 2012, 12:03:19 PM
I'm noticing they are shooting lazerzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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that thing certainly doesn't look human (anymore)
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 12, 2012, 12:03:19 PM
I'm noticing they are shooting lazerzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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Not certain they're lasers, but the blue muzzle flash gets my all hot n' bothered. I hope it's laser tech, that'd be the coolest nod to that classic sci-fi goodness they're going for.
I prefer plain old motion trackers and guns.
The only time I thought lasers looked good in a hard sci-fi movie was in the first two Terminator films :/ (not including Star Wars, which was very much a kid fantasy)
At the begining we can see the piramid.
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It`s clearly similar to this:
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And in the pic with guy being thrown on the wall, well It dosn`t look human to me.
FIXED
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 12, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
The only time I thought lasers looked good in a hard sci-fi movie was in the first two Terminator films :/ (not including Star Wars, which was very much a kid fantasy)
I think Scott would be one to pull it off quite well without making it look too phony. He's gonna
have to do it if he's ever going to do The Forever War. :D
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 12, 2012, 12:23:42 PM
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 12, 2012, 12:17:13 PM
The only time I thought lasers looked good in a hard sci-fi movie was in the first two Terminator films :/ (not including Star Wars, which was very much a kid fantasy)
I think Scott would be one to pull it off quite well without making it look too phony. He's gonna have to do it if he's ever going to do The Forever War. :D
Indeed! ;D Hopefully though there is a minimum of lasers in Prometheus. Always loved the smartgun and pulse rifle using bullets, caseless or otherwise. Lasers were scripted for Alien but were never used, with flamethrowers being favoured.
Quote from: Master on Mar 12, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
At the begining we can see the piramid.
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It`s clearly similar to this:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=47&page=1
And that rock formation on the right is obviously the rock 'wall' that we can see from the ramp in the other trailer.
Thought that looked wicked :)
Can't really identify myself with the pessimism about this film that I stumble upon.
I mean, Ridley Scott + dark sci-fi + a cast to kill for (and throw in a bit of HR Giger and Arthur Max as well)... If someone had suggested that such a project would indeed be realized only few years ago, we would have laughed our collective asses off...
I hope that the new trailer will feature some of the actual music from the finished film, as I have no idea whatsoever what to expect in this department...
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 10:22:12 AM
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Looks like whoever turned the flamethrower on our big pal here was smashed to bits; their flamethrower can still be seen to the right spewing flame on the floor. Cool 8)
No longer available?!?!?! Does anyone have an alternative location or has it uploaded to YT?!
Quote from: Space Voyager on Mar 12, 2012, 12:56:16 PM
No longer available?!?!?! Does anyone have an alternative location or has it uploaded to YT?!
I had no ends of problems getting this to play (including the 'no longer available' message), either keep trying or search out the youtube link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_UpJeK6Ho#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_UpJeK6Ho#ws)
Guys, THIS IS TOTALLY AMAZING !!!!!!!!!!! It looks so so great and perfect. This is so cool. Can't wait. :P
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 12, 2012, 01:00:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_UpJeK6Ho#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH_UpJeK6Ho#ws)
Aw, thanks Valaquen.
It all looked pretty good to me, except from one shot of the APCs leaving the ship's hanger. As others have said, the CGI elements were a little too obvious there.
Three or so months of work left to tune up any CG work. I'm not fussed, the shots looks panoramic enough. Very epic looking. There's not a dull shot there.
And the epic music with the "alarm" sound added gives to the trailer even more epicness.
I also love that "alarm" sound tying it to the original Alien trailer (around 54 secs in when the egg cracks). Man I am stoked for this movie!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjLamj-b0I8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjLamj-b0I8#ws)
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 12, 2012, 01:10:44 PM
Three or so months of work left to tune up any CG work. I'm not fussed, the shots looks panoramic enough. Very epic looking. There's not a dull shot there.
Oh, I agree. I was just being picky. ;)
Wow. That's about all I have to say. What I was able to see in that trailer for the trailer was rich, intense and foreboding. Nothing in those new shots screamed 'summer blockbuster shlock' in the very least. The film appears to be quite the ride and by the looks of things I'm betting it will be an R but who knows. The pessimism is a bit disheartening. What makes people blow off the fan base is when certain people tear a movie a part based on one shot that's less then 2 seconds in length.
At the moment, and aside from ALIEN, I haven't seen any film look like this before. We're in new and yet familiar, historical territory folks. Strap in.
Great new footage.
Is that Vickers jettisoning out of the Prometheus in an escape pod?
What is a music in teaser trailer???
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 12, 2012, 01:54:11 PM
Great new footage.
Is that Vickers jettisoning out of the Prometheus in an escape pod?
That's what I'm thinking too. To add, perhaps the footage in trailer1 with Vickers changing clothing while running in a hallway, is really her changing into the suit she's wearing when she escapes for survival.
When she/they are so desperate that they chose to destroy their ride home in order to take out the engineer ship, it makes you wonder what kind of threat the engineers are going to be in this film...
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 01:51:46 PM
Nothing in those new shots screamed 'summer blockbuster shlock' in the very least. The film appears to be quite the ride and by the looks of things I'm betting it will be an R but who knows. The pessimism is a bit disheartening.
I hope that this comment isn't aimed at myself or other comments from users on this forum because I said that I liked the teaser, save for one minor shot. How is that "tearing a movie apart"? So what, people aren't allowed to be objective and criticise as well as praise?
I'd actually dare to suggest that with the hype for this film being at fever pitch, a little healthy skepticism might actually be a good thing. I'm looking forward to 'Prometheus' more than any other film ever but that doesn't mean that I'll just focus on the positives. That's not how I role; 'Alien' is my favourite film of all time but that doesn't mean that I think it's flawless.
I guess what I'm saying is that we're all highly anticipating 'Prometheus' (I joined this site when the film was announced and I've already amassed 500+ posts. Trust me, I am not, nor are the majority of others here I suspect, a "hater" or "troll").
Being completely positive, to the point of blindness, is no better or worse than being utterly hateful. It's a pet peeve of mine when people are labelled as "trolling" or what have you, just because they were stating a somewhat negative opinion about something they are mostly positive about.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 01:51:46 PMWhat makes people blow off the fan base is when certain people tear a movie a part based on one shot that's less then 2 seconds in length.
Allow me to reverse that statement...
What makes people blow off the fan base is when certain people praise a movie as to be beyond minor criticism, in part based on one or more shots that are less then 2 seconds in length.
... See? It works both ways and in both cases it's an unfair statement to make because we all have opinions. Provided that those opinions (both positive and negative) are backed up with reasons, then it's entirely fair play.
There's really no reason to be "disheartened".
Looks wonderful.
Italy has a 720p footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykGqEFQqx6E#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykGqEFQqx6E#ws)
1080p (1920x1080) version here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/prometheus_preview_1080_AvPGalaxy.net.rar (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/prometheus_preview_1080_AvPGalaxy.net.rar)
Quote from: Master on Mar 12, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
At the begining we can see the piramid.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1203.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb381%2Fconkerthump5%2Fprom4.jpg&hash=bebd9fdb72b90294e1b0ac06b6d1a870824e2fee)
It`s clearly similar to this:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=47&page=1
To what similar, precisely??????????? Seemed like you linked it wrongly, coz it doesn't show up as a picture and then when I took the URL then there's Giger's gallery.
What is a music in this teaser trailer???
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 12, 2012, 02:31:43 PM
1080p (1920x1080) version here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/prometheus_preview_1080_AvPGalaxy.net.rar (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2561706/prometheus_preview_1080_AvPGalaxy.net.rar)
Thanks Ikarop.
St. Eddie,my comments were to the generalized population here on AvP that's all. I would agree that a healthy dose of optimism mixed with skepticism is a good thing when approaching anything. Myself I'm as terrified that Prometheus won't be good as I am excited that I will be an amazing film.
The 'summer blockbuster schlock' comment seemed a bit flippant and nonchalant, is all. Of course we're all here to have fun ultimately. :)
1080p screencaps:
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The injured guy some people was discussing about:
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Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 12, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Master on Mar 12, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
At the begining we can see the piramid.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1203.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb381%2Fconkerthump5%2Fprom4.jpg&hash=bebd9fdb72b90294e1b0ac06b6d1a870824e2fee)
It`s clearly similar to this:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=47&page=1
To what similar, precisely??????????? Seemed like you linked it wrongly, coz it doesn't show up as a picture and then when I took the URL then there's Giger's gallery.
And in the pic with guy being thrown on the wall, well It dosn`t look human to me.
i think he referred to this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wuala.com%2Fde%2Fapi%2Fpreview%2Fqwaftzefoni%2FImages%2FH.%2520R.%2520Giger%2FAlien%2FEgg%2520Silo%2520I.jpg&hash=dcbfdd2f2e63bf9b5ccf2c5f5154d4f56fdbd3aa)
by the way: i don't think that this creature who which attacks the crew is a human.
it's belly and legs look like more like the alien: rez' newborns. and the casualty seen in the background. maybe this alien grew out of his body? ???
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdesmond.imageshack.us%2FHimg718%2Fscaled.php%3Fserver%3D718%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dprometheuspreview108006.jpg%26amp%3Bres%3Dmedium&hash=2f7790ff2abbb58900c1c4d108a0c381a293a09c)
This is Vickers jettisoning her lifeboat from Prometheus and that Alien spacecraft (Derelict?) is seen in the distance, and from the previous materials we could've gathered that at some point (which seems connected to that screencap) everything was falling to pieces with Vickers and someone else standing on the planet's surface and running away, so now we have some continuity...We might even speculate on the movie's ending :D
Derelict or not, this is wonderful. :'( :)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdesmond.imageshack.us%2FHimg718%2Fscaled.php%3Fserver%3D718%26amp%3Bfilename%3Dprometheuspreview108006.jpg%26amp%3Bres%3Dmedium&hash=2f7790ff2abbb58900c1c4d108a0c381a293a09c)
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 12, 2012, 02:32:07 PM
Quote from: Master on Mar 12, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
At the begining we can see the piramid.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1203.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb381%2Fconkerthump5%2Fprom4.jpg&hash=bebd9fdb72b90294e1b0ac06b6d1a870824e2fee)
It`s clearly similar to this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/alien/gigerart/normal_Egg_Silo_I.jpg)
To what similar, precisely??????????? Seemed like you linked it wrongly, coz it doesn't show up as a picture and then when I took the URL then there's Giger's gallery.
Fixed already ;)
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 02:43:18 PM
St. Eddie,my comments were to the generalized population here on AvP that's all. I would agree that a healthy dose of optimism mixed with skepticism is a good thing when approaching anything. Myself I'm as terrified that Prometheus won't be good as I am excited that I will be an amazing film.
The 'summer blockbuster schlock' comment seemed a bit flippant and nonchalant, is all. Of course we're all here to have fun ultimately. :)
Cool mate, no worries. :)
Not that I made the "summer blockbuster schlock" comment but I think I can understand what the person who posted that meant by that; in as much as the trailer is heavy on fast cuts, heavy action and no dialogue. Of course, this is to be expected and it's worth noting that the trailer for 'Alien' did much the same. However, aside from the 'TED talk viral video' (which incidentally I adore) we still haven't actually seen any character based moments from the actual film.
I have absolute faith in Ridley Scott to deliver on this front (heck, he excels in that department) but going purely by what we've seen in the trailers; one could be forgiven for being under the impression that 'Prometheus' is set to be an action-adventure romp, with striking visuals but little else.
Again, I must stress that
I don't hold that belief but I can at least appreciate why someone might.
That individual throwing a crewmember... that's a really odd looking head:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi39.tinypic.com%2F9i4tbn.jpg&hash=f74e8332be0a00aa9ae684d5e9a212f339528c12)
(a still I took from the HD version)
Link to bigger version: http://oi39.tinypic.com/9i4tbn.jpg (http://oi39.tinypic.com/9i4tbn.jpg)
There's no reflection of the lights as we can clearly see on everobody elses helmet, so I guess he's not wearing a helmet... just a big, dark mass...
What is this... thing..? Am I imagining things...? :o
It's a very huge head, No ?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg198.imageshack.us%2Fimg198%2F7681%2Fprometheuspreview108006.jpg&hash=e72d6fba48e8ec5dc6e4ac1c7eed2caa76bf6920)
I'm beginning to worry (???) that this is indeed LV-426 before something (that we are yet to see in the movie) went horribly wrong and made it BARREN and this will lead us to discovery that THIS is THE derelict from the original Alien that remained there after the catastrophe.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 12, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
I'm beginning to worry (???) that this is indeed LV-426 before something (that we are yet to see in the movie) went horribly wrong and made it BARREN and this will lead us to discovery that THIS is THE derelict from the original Alien that remained there after the catastrophe.
the only thing that lindelof said about this movie, w/o getting angry at him, is his statement of the film's not playing on lv-426 and not including the original (same) derelict as in alien.
so, don't worry after all. ;)
I took a picture and outlined creatures head. It dosen`t look human at all:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi239.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff244%2F000Master000%2Fcrit.png&hash=21b542ca8243ecf556866ecf254689d9fa1b7f12)
This is all looking quite marvellous. Great screen caps, the images are amazing. Roll on June 8)
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 12, 2012, 02:47:09 PMThe injured guy some people was discussing about:
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Looks like I was right about that not being a corpse but a discarded and smouldering piece of chest armour (and helmet).
New Trailer is 2 minutes and 33 seconds long and is rated 12A by the BBFC:
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/DTxxx286710/ (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/DTxxx286710/)
Could be wrong of course, but my first thought about the person on the floor was that it's the guy wielding the flamethrower in trailer1... But i dunno...
The 'alien-looking creature' with the odd head still has spots on his suit on fire. In trailer1 someone was seen leaping on the flamethrower guy, but that person had clearly defined human facial features - was it the mohawk guy? Thanx for the additional HQ stills of this... thing... Just confirms my first impressions.... (shivers)... :)
Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 12, 2012, 03:24:03 PM
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 12, 2012, 02:47:09 PMThe injured guy some people was discussing about:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg189.imageshack.us%2Fimg189%2F7681%2Fprometheuspreview108006.jpg&hash=db82b68e476f085b054e0931372a19d1feff0b8e)
Looks like I was right about that not being a corpse but a discarded and smouldering piece of chest armour (and helmet).
That picture does not show the legs and boots still attached to the body. It's an injured or dead crew member.
I guess his face/head melt into oblivion?
There is clearly a head in that armor...the nose is quite visible.
On the floor...looks like the torso of a human in a suit...no legs on that one.
The figure throwing the crew member has on some kind of suit...look at the video and watch the legs...but the head is definitely not that of a normal human.
All in all...pretty cool!
The 1080 version looks fantastic!!!
those new shots look amazing!
can't wait to see the trailer!
no wait, actuallly, i cant wait to SEE THIS F***ING MOVIE!
:D
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:01:16 PM
On the floor...looks like the torso of a human in a suit...no legs on that one.
The figure throwing the crew member has on some kind of suit...look at the video and watch the legs...but the head is definitely not that of a normal human.
All in all...pretty cool!
The 1080 version looks fantastic!!!
Look! Legs and arms, and the arms are still in the blue cloth suit so it's a body.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJnnlw.png&hash=b57ad31c577d9078040020a7e9a0a635178dcd3d)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer30.jpg)
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I think this is from the same moment.The burning guy is the "jumping mutant" and the guy dead or injured on the ground is probably the guy the mutant jumping on in the first trailer. I continue to think that these mutants things are on their way to a complete mutation and this is not the final stage.
About the throwing "thing's" giant head.. look at the 2nd teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-QYxJXewCk#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-QYxJXewCk#ws)), around the 10 second mark. Here we see the jumping guy/mohawk dude doing some strange movement and being elevated on a platform. His head looks kinda big and messed up.
My guess...
He's a robot.
That's why he has the capability of throwing another guy, in full suit, without a hassle; and why his head is so deformed: the synthetic skin has melted from the flames.
My 0.50 SEK.
^ You're Swedish? :D Anyway, yeah, I'm buying this skin melted from flames, coz you see he's a bit scorched in that screenshot.
^^No. I think he's a mutated human. It's genetic. That gives him super strenght and the ability to breath without helmet. David & Vickers are synthetics but they wearing helmets.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
I think this is from the same moment.The burning guy is the "jumping mutant" and the guy dead or injured on the ground is probably the guy the mutant jumping on in the first trailer. I continue to think that these mutants things are on their way to a complete mutation and this is not the final stage.
Looks like it, just shot from different angles (that would mean there are three 8-wheelers in the Garage Pod). If the guy's head is mutating along with the rest of him then it probably happens before our very eyes - quickly.
In the german HD preview it is just the "most anticipated movie of this summer" and not "year"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_BL94EBRhQ#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_BL94EBRhQ#ws)
:laugh:
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
I think this is from the same moment.The burning guy is the "jumping mutant" and the guy dead or injured on the ground is probably the guy the mutant jumping on in the first trailer. I continue to think that these mutants things are on their way to a complete mutation and this is not the final stage.
Looks like it, just shot from different angles (that would mean there are three 8-wheelers in the Garage Pod). If the guy's head is mutating along with the rest of him then it probably happens before our very eyes - quickly.
Agree. Maybe 1-2 minutes, I dont know between the first and third image and he looks a little bit different. His head seems huge in the last images.
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i compared the knees of the jumping guy and the guy that is throwing the other person:
notice they have the same suit and the same lines on the legs/knees
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Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
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I think this is from the same moment.The burning guy is the "jumping mutant" and the guy dead or injured on the ground is probably the guy the mutant jumping on in the first trailer. I continue to think that these mutants things are on their way to a complete mutation and this is not the final stage.
Yeah me too.
This is clearly the scene after he jumps, now we know what he lands on.
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 12, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
i compared the knees of the jumping guy and the guy that is throwing the other person:
notice they have the same suit and the same lines on the legs/knees
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg)
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The same suit that a dozen other crew members are wearing?
I'm pretty sure that the first leaked stills from the film (was it Comic-Con?), featured the flamethrower guy completely engulfing someone else in flames. I doubt that would be the same 'individual/person/thing' seen in this teaser throwing around the crewmember. There could be two creating havoc onboard the ship - the mohawk guy jumping on the flamethrower guy (and getting totally burned) and then the 'mutant' as it seems we've named him with the odd head, who kills off the flamethrower guy in an ugly and horrible fashion.
It's the head part that buggers me - even if it was a human/android head 'melted' etc, it's still appears much larger than a human head. The infection theory sounds most plausable to me right now - some of the early stills also depicted crewmembers in protective suits (like those we've seen used in higly radioactive surroundings) and Noomi Rapace or Kate Dickie in a 'medical predicament' to put it mildly.
Edit: updated with the pics I mentioned (sorry about the poor source quality):
Toast!
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Question is: What happened to this guy ? Was he attack by something whose changing him or did he accept something from the Engineer ?
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 04:50:55 PM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 12, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
i compared the knees of the jumping guy and the guy that is throwing the other person:
notice they have the same suit and the same lines on the legs/knees
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer30.jpg (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer30.jpg)
The same suit that a dozen other crew members are wearing?
bitches speculated that it might be an alien but i don't think that an alien wears a suit that "dozens of other crewmembers" of a different race wear
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:01:16 PM
On the floor...looks like the torso of a human in a suit...no legs on that one.
The figure throwing the crew member has on some kind of suit...look at the video and watch the legs...but the head is definitely not that of a normal human.
All in all...pretty cool!
The 1080 version looks fantastic!!!
Look! Legs and arms, and the arms are still in the blue cloth suit so it's a body.
http://i.imgur.com/Jnnlw.png
Yep...didn't see that before...
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 12, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
i compared the knees of the jumping guy and the guy that is throwing the other person:
notice they have the same suit and the same lines on the legs/knees
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer30.jpg (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer30.jpg)
Thanks for that. Sometimes it feels as though we're going in circles; "look, it's a
Space Jockey"! Firstly, Ridley Scott is keeping all the really interesting stuff outside of the trailers (in his own words). Secondly, that "creature" is quite clearly wearing a human uniform. As I said before, you can see the knee pads and boots.
The most likely answer is a mutating human. Remember that a reliable sounding source a while back had heard that 'Prometheus' is partially akin to 'The Thing... In Space'? Seems credible based on what we're seeing. I know that there's many people who don't like this concept but trying to see a full on Space Jockey in that particular shot is just fooling yourself in my opinion.
As for myself... I'll be perfectly happy with 'The Thing... In Space' providing it's executed with great skill. I hear a lot of talk on these forums about how
"space zombies are lame"; not only wasn't 'The Thing' a zombies flick but it's also one of the greatest concepts for a horror film ever (and in my top 5 of all time - along with 'The Fly', which is also relevant in this case I think). I respect those who disagree but frankly, I fine with 'Prometheus' taking that route.
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 12, 2012, 05:03:13 PM
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 04:50:55 PM
Quote from: DendaReloaded on Mar 12, 2012, 04:46:18 PM
i compared the knees of the jumping guy and the guy that is throwing the other person:
notice they have the same suit and the same lines on the legs/knees
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7681/prometheuspreview108006.jpg)
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer30.jpg (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer30.jpg)
The same suit that a dozen other crew members are wearing?
bitches speculated that it might be an alien but i don't think that an alien wears a suit that "dozens of other crewmembers" of a different race wear.
Aside from the "bitches" part; precisely the point I'm making...
... Although it could be a human under Space Jockey control! ;)
I think "Look Into My Eye" and others are making a good point by inspecting the legs and noting the armor. The suits are very similar but not all identical. Remember how some seem to have orange details and others do not. In this scene it seems the mohawk guy has a codpiece and possibly some more armor up at mid-thigh level. The other crew members in the scene have no codpiece armor. I believe this categorically proves (for those that aren't sure) that the character throwing the crewmember is indeed a burned mohawk guy. The 1080p version more clearly shows his leg armor, gloves and flames on his torso.
I think I might have an answer as to why his head looks so big in the new shot. As pointed out before he looks blackened and on fire as he has been doused with the flamethrower. I think glass/pexi-glass dome is scorched and now opaque. He may even be unable to see the crew members at this point could possibly be flailing around trying to grab his attacker when he suddenly feels him, grabs him and throws him.
Here's to hoping he is a sleeper android and not a mutant *fingers crossed*
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 12, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
I think I might have an answer why is head looks so big in the new shot. He looks blackened and flaming as he has been doused with the flamethrower. I think glass/pexi-glass dome is scorched and now opaque.
This. Sanity.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
Question is: What happened to this guy ? Was he attack by something whose changing him or did he accept something from the Engineer ?
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looks like he's suffering.
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 12, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
I think I might have an answer why is head looks so big in the new shot. He looks blackened and flaming as he has been doused with the flamethrower. I think glass/pexi-glass dome is scorched and now opaque.
This. Sanity.
everyone seems to think that "mutating" means someone is changing into a mindless, stupid monster/zombie that doesn't have its own will anymore.
but hey that's pretty much the type of monster that we've seen in the ALIEN movies b4, so why should they switch it for a monster of pretty much the same attitude?
what if this guy is infested by something (maybe even a creature), that actually took control of him and instead of turning him into a brainless tool (yes kind of like those Stargate things), it's using his body to follow it's own plans AND simultaneously is changing the body of its host to something else.
that creature maybe could even communicate with the rest of teh crew and tell them about it's (maybe not so nice) intentions.
its just a possibity
What if he's infested to gradually become a Space Jockey? And anyway, even if that guy was initially suffering, that doesn't mean that after some time the exposure to whatever element this was, couldn't have been BENEFICIAL in some way... ???
Quote from: Zeta Reticuli on Mar 12, 2012, 05:19:50 PM
everyone seems to think that "mutating" means someone is changing into a mindless, stupid monster/zombie that doesn't have its own will anymore.
but hey that's pretty much the type of monster that we've seen in the ALIEN movies b4, so why should they switch it for a monster of pretty much the same attitude?
what if this guy is infested by something (maybe even a creature), that actually took control of him and instead of turning him into a brainless tool (yes kind of like those Stargate things), it's using his body to follow it's own plans AND simultaneously is changing the body of its host to something else.
that creature maybe could even communicate with the rest of teh crew and tell them about it's (maybe not so nice) intentions.
its just a possibity
every thread, in regards to the mutant mohawk guy puts two thesis: the mindless space zombie or the goa'uld thesis.
i think both comparisons lacks of creative ideas. :-[
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 12, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
I think I might have an answer why is head looks so big in the new shot. He looks blackened and flaming as he has been doused with the flamethrower. I think glass/pexi-glass dome is scorched and now opaque.
This. Sanity.
Except.... as far as I can tell, the mohawk guy
isn't wearing a helmet when he leaps on the flamethrower guy. ;)
Quote from: Eva on Mar 12, 2012, 05:26:52 PM
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 12, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
I think I might have an answer why is head looks so big in the new shot. He looks blackened and flaming as he has been doused with the flamethrower. I think glass/pexi-glass dome is scorched and now opaque.
This. Sanity.
Except.... as far as I can tell, the mohawk guy isn't wearing a helmet when he leaps on the flamethrower guy. ;)
lol, your absolutely right :laugh:
so his head is deforming. and his belly and his legs, too. they remind me of the newborn in alien: rez somehow.
but what's hanging in front of it's mouth? ???
@Eva - Sorry for going off topic but your signature picture is fantastic.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 12, 2012, 05:30:30 PM
Quote from: Eva on Mar 12, 2012, 05:26:52 PM
Quote from: Gash on Mar 12, 2012, 05:18:00 PM
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 12, 2012, 05:14:08 PM
I think I might have an answer why is head looks so big in the new shot. He looks blackened and flaming as he has been doused with the flamethrower. I think glass/pexi-glass dome is scorched and now opaque.
This. Sanity.
Except.... as far as I can tell, the mohawk guy isn't wearing a helmet when he leaps on the flamethrower guy. ;)
lol, your absolutely right :laugh:
so his head is deforming. and his belly and his legs, too. they remind me of the newborn in alien: rez somehow.
but what's hanging in front of it's mouth? ???
a trunk?
If it's the same guy.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 12, 2012, 05:30:30 PM
but what's hanging in front of it's mouth? ???
The mutated green tounge from the newest fan-script ;)
Quote from: Kol on Mar 12, 2012, 05:30:30 PM
so his head is deforming. and his belly and his legs, too. they remind me of the newborn in alien: rez somehow.
but what's hanging in front of it's mouth? ???
If this Sean Harris's character (Fifield?) then it is probably his beard, Harris has red hair. I rhink the guy with the 'laser balls' is Harris, the beard, mohican and head tattoos would indicate that he is a mercenary and would probably be responsible for using the devices to scout and map the tunnels (probably military drone hardware). The 3 day teasers showed preparation for a shot with a guy with a burnt suit (minus the chest armour and backpack), a tufty mohican, marks on his head and a beard.
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Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 12, 2012, 05:38:57 PM
@Eva - Sorry for going off topic but your signature picture is fantastic.
Thanx - consider it a urge I have to resurrect my past webdesigner/artistic career from time to time. :)
PS: The Thing reference you made isn't far-fetched at all - that film makes my skin crawl, but in a good way (talking about the Kurt Russell version of course). The very thought of something extremely alien and hostile invading your body on a celluar/biological level is just sooo unsettling to me. I wouldn't mind either if there are some similarities between the biological horror of The Thing and Prometheus, just don't copy the concept directly - make it fresh and deeply unsettling in its own right.
Looks to me like something is exploding inside his helmet in the teaser, which corresponds with reports from the Comic-Con footage. Wonder what could have gotten into his suit? Can't wait to find out.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 12, 2012, 05:19:28 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
Question is: What happened to this guy ? Was he attack by something whose changing him or did he accept something from the Engineer ?
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With that murky green/yellow light under his chin and the smoke there's a certain resemblance to an iconic movie poster of 1979.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 12, 2012, 05:38:57 PM
@Eva - Sorry for going off topic but your signature picture is fantastic.
Thanx - consider it a urge I have to resurrect my past webdesigner/artistic career from time to time. So, why not make a pseudo commercial to help the company image a little bit :)
PS: The Thing reference you made isn't far-fetched at all - that film makes my skin crawl, but in a good way (talking about the Kurt Russell version of course). The very thought of something extremely alien and hostile invading your body on a celluar/biological level is just sooo unsettling to me. I wouldn't mind either if there are some similarities between the biological horror of The Thing and Prometheus, just don't copy the concept directly - make it fresh and deeply unsettling in its own right.
Don't even get me started on Invasion Of The Body Snatchers from the 70s....
Quote from: Eva on Mar 12, 2012, 06:10:11 PM
The Thing reference you made isn't far-fetched at all - that film makes my skin crawl, but in a good way (talking about the Kurt Russell version of course). The very thought of something extremely alien and hostile invading your body on a celluar/biological level is just sooo unsettling to me. I wouldn't mind either if there are some similarities between the biological horror of The Thing and Prometheus, just don't copy the concept directly - make it fresh and deeply unsettling in its own right.
Wait, I've just checked and apparently there was a film called 'The Thing' in '82! I'll have to check it out sometime, I hope that it's as amazing as that film from last year.
... I jest! Naturally I was referring to the Carpenter/Russell version. ;)
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:P
the new one was a prequel to the 82 one.
He was kidding, apparently.
I find it amusing that this film has prefaced both it's trailers with a trailer for the trailer :D
Some cool shorts for sure, though i'll hardly be rewatching it over and over. I'll wait for the real thing this weekend before over analyzing it
Wow, that looks great! Can't wait for the full trailer!
Interesting. I somehow think that there will be few new alien species as in the interview Ridley said that there will be new monsterS.
Quote from: Shodan09 on Mar 12, 2012, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 12, 2012, 10:21:14 AM
Is that thing throwing the crew member even human? Looking kinda Jockey suit to me?
-Chris
I think you might be right there. It looks much taller than the others and looks a bit on fire too
His arms... really long.
Also that "suit" looks somewhat... grown rather than worn, at least to me.
He could be the second android.
Quote from: Spidey3121 on Mar 12, 2012, 07:26:23 PM
I find it amusing that this film has prefaced both it's trailers with a trailer for the trailer :D
I was going to say the same thing. This tickle me. But some very impressive shots in there. The more and more I see, the more epic this looks.
Prometheus is my most anticipated movie this year. I simply cannot wait for Saturday for the full trailer to premiere!
That being said, I'm a little concerned. I'm not pessimistic but I feel like I'm seeing too much CGI already. I kind of feel foolish because I was getting really excited and telling friends and family that it would be refreshing to see a sci-fi film go back to using practical effects and very little CGI unless it was necessary. I realise that many of the sets are built from scratch and a lot of the landscapes actually exist but I am seeing a little more colour grading and CGI than I would like. There was just something organic and authentic looking about Alien. Does that make sense?
I want to eat my words on Saturday but until then I'm nervous. I still think it has the potential to be brilliant though!
A trailer for a trailer... for a trailer... TRAILERCEPTION! ;D
The new shots are amazing, great to see some shots explaining more of the last trailer (the mohawk dude, Vicker's escape from the Prometheus). The Engineer ship looks amazing, didn't know it would fly stood up too! :o
And the Giger Egg Pyramid... :o I am now very psyched for this film. This trailer which has not even the best bits, is amazing.
Shut up and take my money, Ridley! ;)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:41:47 PM
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 12, 2012, 04:37:32 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 12, 2012, 04:11:36 PM
I think this is from the same moment.The burning guy is the "jumping mutant" and the guy dead or injured on the ground is probably the guy the mutant jumping on in the first trailer. I continue to think that these mutants things are on their way to a complete mutation and this is not the final stage.
Looks like it, just shot from different angles (that would mean there are three 8-wheelers in the Garage Pod). If the guy's head is mutating along with the rest of him then it probably happens before our very eyes - quickly.
Agree. Maybe 1-2 minutes, I dont know between the first and third image and he looks a little bit different. His head seems huge in the last images.
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Is it me or is the guy who is body slamming the other guys arm elongated?? I am watching the 1080p clip and it really looks as though he/she/it's arms are pretty lengthy as he is letting go of the crew member who is about to be slammed.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
I realise that many of the sets are built from scratch and a lot of the landscapes actually exist but I am seeing a little more colour grading and CGI than I would like. There was just something organic and authentic looking about Alien. Does that make sense?
I hear ya. Unfortunately, movies just aren't made by hand anymore. We can't expect that same level of craftsmanship these days. :(
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(probably at the end of the movie this scene is)
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These suits are the same i think,look at the long arms and the legs structure.
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Not the same as this one?
(click to enlarge)
The attackers legs seem to stretch upwards A LOT in that shot of the thrown man. It seems very tall. I wonder if it is the Jockey.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 08:51:51 PM
Prometheus is my most anticipated movie this year. I simply cannot wait for Saturday for the full trailer to premiere!
That being said, I'm a little concerned. I'm not pessimistic but I feel like I'm seeing too much CGI already. I kind of feel foolish because I was getting really excited and telling friends and family that it would be refreshing to see a sci-fi film go back to using practical effects and very little CGI unless it was necessary. I realise that many of the sets are built from scratch and a lot of the landscapes actually exist but I am seeing a little more colour grading and CGI than I would like. There was just something organic and authentic looking about Alien. Does that make sense?
I want to eat my words on Saturday but until then I'm nervous. I still think it has the potential to be brilliant though!
Well, I'd also prefer more practical effects, but maybe this is the kind of flash they're going to expose the most in trailers only to attract the masses while in the movie there won't be such overabundance of it...One way or the other, it's my most anticipated mainstream movie this year...
yoü see that the legs of the man throwing the other one are much thinner at the bottom, but the one of the jockes are much smoother. there aren't any edges or shark narrowings at the ankles.
1. We don't know what in those new shots are CGI aside from obvious backgrounds.
2. When the first official image dropped there was a lot of concern that it looked too slick and too clean and it must be CGI (it wasn't)
3. Ridley and Co. said over and over that very little CG was used and very little green screen.
4. We're jumping the gun.
5. What If it's proven that some of what we're seeing is CG? So what! It's fu€king beautiful and real.
6. People don't understand how crystal clear the Red cameras are. It's pristine crisp and so real it doesn't seem real.
7. And lastly, let's wait until some behind-the-scenes info comes out before we judge.
Awesome!
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
1. We don't know what in those new shots are CGI aside from obvious backgrounds.
Uh, what? There is
loads of CGI, all readily noticeable. Every spaceship shot, for starters.
A trailer for a trailer? :laugh:
The Weyland website was nifty.
This is just silly.
Can you cite the source confirming that those ships are CG and not models? It could very well be CG...there is no recorded proof as of yet.
We have to wait for some Behind the Scenes. CG or not they are f***ing great.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 10:20:20 PM
Can you cite the source confirming that those ships are CG and not models? It could very well be CG...there is no recorded proof as of yet.
:-\ The only proof you need is your eyes. Those are clearly not models.
The ships look VERY CG.
Lots of people say such things about various movies.
They're often wrong though.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 12, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
1. We don't know what in those new shots are CGI aside from obvious backgrounds.
Uh, what? There is loads of CGI, all readily noticeable. Every spaceship shot, for starters.
My thoughts exactly. I don't need behind-the-scenes info to judge what is clearly CGI. I am not saying Prometheus isn't looking beautiful so far, it is. But practical effects tend to look better than CGI.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
My thoughts exactly. I don't need behind-the-scenes info to judge what is clearly CGI. I am not saying Prometheus isn't looking beautiful so far, it is. But practical effects tend to look better than CGI.
That they do. I'm kind of disappointed how video gamey the trailer snippets we've seen have looked :-\ We can already gather, I think, that visually speaking this isn't going to be a patch on the original.
Welcome, BTW! :)
Quote from: SM on Mar 12, 2012, 10:28:12 PM
Lots of people say such things about various movies.
They're often wrong though.
Agreed with you, champ.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 12, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
1. We don't know what in those new shots are CGI aside from obvious backgrounds.
Uh, what? There is loads of CGI, all readily noticeable. Every spaceship shot, for starters.
My thoughts exactly. I don't need behind-the-scenes info to judge what is clearly CGI. I am not saying Prometheus isn't looking beautiful so far, it is. But practical effects tend to look better than CGI.
Maybe hectic schedules don't mesh with the handwork, and the fact it's going to be in 3D may also have something to do with what it would look like on silver screen...Or just Ridley Scott's too old now to put this kind of meticulousness...Or they tried but CGI worked better after the consideration. We don't know for sure.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 12, 2012, 10:17:37 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 12, 2012, 10:03:06 PM
1. We don't know what in those new shots are CGI aside from obvious backgrounds.
Uh, what? There is loads of CGI, all readily noticeable. Every spaceship shot, for starters.
My thoughts exactly. I don't need behind-the-scenes info to judge what is clearly CGI. I am not saying Prometheus isn't looking beautiful so far, it is. But practical effects tend to look better than CGI.
I wish I could find my rose coloured glasses.
QuoteOr just Ridley Scott's too old now to put this kind of meticulousness...
I don't think it's that so much as CGI frees up your shot selection and speeds up the process.
IF it's done right. Often it isn't, people see this and then mindlessly apply it to all CGI, forgetting that models can be just as dodgy if they're not done right. The Nostromo is one of the most awesom movie models ever built - but the strut supporting it is clearly visible in a couple of shots.
Ships and architecture have never been the problem with CGI, it's the rather too fluid movement of creatures and the frenzied directing style that goes along with them that always screams phoney. As long as Prometheus doesn't go that way I'm fine with the way it looks so far.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
I'm kind of disappointed how video gamey the trailer snippets we've seen have looked :-\ We can already gather, I think, that visually speaking this isn't going to be a patch on the original.
I don't think I've played a single xbox or ps3 game that looks as remotely stunning as some of the shots revealed in the trailers.
If they do look "gamey" (I don't think they do) - you have to consider there's a generation of artists out there who will have post PS1 game design embedded into their concept of aesthetic.
However, I trust Ridley - if most of the effects are practical, I believe him. The cast have reiterated this in interviews.
Whatever technics they're using, CG or not, the most important is the final result. And all those shots are really well made and impressive.
Yep. I've yet to see anything that doesn't look convincing.
I be that Jockey Muthaf#cka, LV-426 is what Im Repping! I just jizzed in pants cuz Im excited for this Bio-Weapon
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 12, 2012, 10:51:46 PM
If they do look "gamey" (I don't think they do) - you have to consider there's a generation of artists out there who will have post PS1 game design embedded into their concept of aesthetic.
And that is one of the biggest reasons most genre movies look like garbage these days, unfortunately. Regurgitating the same lazy visual concepts over and over in flat, lifeless CG rendering. Sigh.
Quote from: SM on Mar 12, 2012, 10:37:42 PM
The Nostromo is one of the most awesom movie models ever built - but the strut supporting it is clearly visible in a couple of shots.
I've seen ALIEN probably over a hundred times, and noticed every effects flaw
except that one. Still more convincing than any CGI spaceship I've ever seen.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 12, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
My thoughts exactly. I don't need behind-the-scenes info to judge what is clearly CGI. I am not saying Prometheus isn't looking beautiful so far, it is. But practical effects tend to look better than CGI.
That they do. I'm kind of disappointed how video gamey the trailer snippets we've seen have looked :-\ We can already gather, I think, that visually speaking this isn't going to be a patch on the original.
Welcome, BTW! :)
I can only hope the rest of the film is more organic looking. There's hope yet. This is not about wearing "rose coloured glasses." The fact is that I only watched Alien for the first time 30 years after its initial release - so it has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has more to do with appreciating what practical effects can achieve on camera as opposed to CGI.
Thanks for the welcome. :)
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 11:09:52 PM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 12, 2012, 10:34:00 PM
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 10:30:25 PM
My thoughts exactly. I don't need behind-the-scenes info to judge what is clearly CGI. I am not saying Prometheus isn't looking beautiful so far, it is. But practical effects tend to look better than CGI.
That they do. I'm kind of disappointed how video gamey the trailer snippets we've seen have looked :-\ We can already gather, I think, that visually speaking this isn't going to be a patch on the original.
Welcome, BTW! :)
I can only hope the rest of the film is more organic looking. There's hope yet. This is not about wearing "rose coloured glasses." The fact is that I only watched Alien for the first time 30 years after its initial release - so it has nothing to do with nostalgia. It has more to do with appreciating what practical effects can achieve on camera as opposed to CGI.
Thanks for the welcome. :)
So that makes you a 3-year old fan? :) Better late than never! However while there's no denying Alien is a one great looking film that still looks stunning, the times have changed, I guess. Especially for mainstream movies, while I can name you some older movies - Tarkovsky's Stalker or Wenders's Wings of Desire, they're mostly "artistic ones", and I can't think of too many mainstream ones that stood up to the test of time (maybe Gilliam's Brazil, if you call it mainstream). To me Alien was an "artistic" movie, made with certain mindset that manifests its through its cinematic genius. And to me it's got more to due with how sharp Ridley's mind was back then and how driven he was back then rather than anything else.
That being said, I'm pretty sure Prometheus will have plenty of organic look to it and I bet plenty of scenes that weren't shown yet and are connected to some big surprises will be like that!
oh and welcome too :)
I think you're all deluding yourselves - there's no way Ridley will go back to the low budget creature-feature stylings of Alien, no matter how incredible he made it look. Most of that movie was about atmosphere, more due to budgetry limitations so I understand.
I'm sure he'll be equally obsessed with suggestion and tension - but the universe is his to play with now. We have to accept this is not 1978, gargantuan strides in filmmaking have been made, he's using unbelievable cameras, IT'S AN IMAX PRESENTATION...it's just not Alien anymore. As promised, this is going to be something entirely different, an epic from the same universe, but a new beginning. He promised us lots of practical effects - but planetoid landscapes an skies are going to mostly be cgi tho, no matter what.
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 12, 2012, 11:25:23 PM
I think you're all deluding yourselves - there's no way Ridley will go back to the low budget creature-feature stylings of Alien, no matter how incredible he made it look. Most of that movie was about atmosphere, more due to budgetry limitations so I understand.
I'm sure he'll be equally obsessed with suggestion and tension - but the universe is his to play with now. We have to accept this is not 1978, gargantuan strides in filmmaking have been made, he's using unbelievable cameras, IT'S AN IMAX PRESENTATION...it's just not Alien anymore. As promised, this is going to be something entirely different, an epic from the same universe, but a new beginning. He promised us lots of practical effects - but planetoid landscapes an skies are going to mostly be cgi tho, no matter what.
Atmosphere is a bad thing why?
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 12, 2012, 11:25:23 PM
We have to accept this is not 1978, gargantuan strides in filmmaking have been made, he's using unbelievable cameras, IT'S AN IMAX PRESENTATION.
Too bad it's not real IMAX.
Yes, welcome Vickers - good to know a capable company representative is here to keep an eye on this wretched hive of scum and villainy. :)
Regarding the modelwork in Alien, I'll like to add that what also really made that film stand out, was the lighting of the sets and models and Ridleys trademark smoke & wind/rain thrown in the mix. It made the Nostromo exterior shots look absolutely spectacular.
QuoteAtmosphere is a bad thing why?
It's not. The budget wasn't especially limited either. They got away with building that honking big and expensive Space Jockey
^ I also think the budget wasn't especially limited compared to other films of the time, and I think Alien had received a budget upgrade at that time, too.
The budget was doubled up to $10m after Fox saw Ridley's storyboards, and I think the final tally was around $11m. Which for that time was not a low budget.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 12, 2012, 11:20:30 PM
So that makes you a 3-year old fan? :) Better late than never! However while there's no denying Alien is a one great looking film that still looks stunning, the times have changed, I guess. Especially for mainstream movies, while I can name you some older movies - Tarkovsky's Stalker or Wenders's Wings of Desire, they're mostly "artistic ones", and I can't think of too many mainstream ones that stood up to the test of time (maybe Gilliam's Brazil, if you call it mainstream). To me Alien was an "artistic" movie, made with certain mindset that manifests its through its cinematic genius. And to me it's got more to due with how sharp Ridley's mind was back then and how driven he was back then rather than anything else.
That being said, I'm pretty sure Prometheus will have plenty of organic look to it and I bet plenty of scenes that weren't shown yet and are connected to some big surprises will be like that!
oh and welcome too :)
Thanks for the welcome. I'm only a 3-year old fan but happy to be on board. ;)
You're right, times have changed and no matter what, Alien and all the other cinematic masterpieces will still hold their own. I do still think there will be a filmmaker who will step up and create a mainstream masterpiece using only practical effects.
Here's a film I'm looking forward to this year that appears to keep things very simple and practical and it's oozing with atmosphere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDH0Ykyge0c#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDH0Ykyge0c#ws)
I have no doubt that Ridley's usage of practical special effects will be nothing less than spectacular. I am obviously really excited for Prometheus and despite my "disappointment" (for lack of a much better word) with the amount of CGI, I'm sure Prometheus is going to blow everybody away. And I can't wait.
^^Approximatively the same budget than Star Wars.
$11 million was pretty damn modest for a tentpole sci-film in 1979. That crappy space James Bond movie had a $34 million dollar budget, and Star Trek had nearer to $50 million. Granted, those were franchise pics, but still. The Black Hole also had twice ALIEN's budget.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 12, 2012, 11:30:28 PM
Yes, welcome Vickers - good to know a capable company representative is here to keep an eye on this wretched hive of scum and villainy. :)
Regarding the modelwork in Alien, I'll like to add that what also really made that film stand out, was the lighting of the sets and models and Ridleys trademark smoke & wind/rain thrown in the mix. It made the Nostromo exterior shots look absolutely spectacular.
:laugh: Thank you, Eva. I couldn't agree with you more. The exterior shots combined with the intense weather was incredible!
Quote from: SM on Mar 12, 2012, 11:41:49 PM
The budget was doubled up to $10m after Fox saw Ridley's storyboards, and I think the final tally was around $11m. Which for that time was not a low budget.
And back then the notion of a "blockbuster" as we know it now didn't exist. Surely some movies became smash hits, but it was way different back then.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 12, 2012, 11:45:44 PM
$11 million was pretty damn modest for a tentpole sci-film in 1979. That crappy space James Bond movie had a $34 million dollar budget, and Star Trek had nearer to $50 million. Granted, those were franchise pics, but still. The Black Hole also had twice ALIEN's budget.
The Black Hole had a director who made a quite successful movie in box office before that and also had more recognizable actors (ANTHONY PERKINS - PSYCHO - NORMAN BATES, HELLO?) and a couple of others...
It existed to a certain degree in the wake of Jaws and Star Wars, but not as we know it now. From memory film budgets did increase markedly at the end of the 1970s. But again Alien was not a low budget movie. By the same token it wasn't heavy on the optical effects like a Star Wars.
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 12, 2012, 11:47:59 PM
The Black Hole had a director who made a quite successful movie in box office before that and also had more recognizable actors (ANTHONY PERKINS - PSYCHO - NORMAN BATES, HELLO?) and a couple of others...
And? Still doesn't contradict my point that ALIEN was a very modestly budgeted sci-fi film compared to all the other genre tentpoles released that year.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 12, 2012, 11:28:51 PM
Atmosphere is a bad thing why?
It's not, and I'm sure Ridley will make this an important feature of Prometheus too. But our cinema experience is so different now - the summer blockbuster was a relatively new concept in 1978. Nowadays, the big players are heavily reliant on the success of a tentpole movie. That means tailoring to as broad an audience as possible - I really expect Prometheus to be PG13 with an R rated cut shown at late performances or for Blu Ray release.
I also expected the production to involve a lot of cgi - because this is what is kind of expected by the audience from years of Hollywood conditioning; a hyperreal vision. Game culture is as much to blame for this, and it's competing with the movie industry for everyones dollars too. Unless Prometheus looks a billion times better than Halo or Fallout, you aren't going to persuade that audience to get into theatres. The only way to get this aesthetic is really through cgi.
I think Ridley will get the balance right, but cgi will play a big part in the film's final look. The crashing Derelict seqeunce for a start - that ain't no model. But it looks great.
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 13, 2012, 12:05:05 AM
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 12, 2012, 11:28:51 PM
Atmosphere is a bad thing why?
It's not, and I'm sure Ridley will make this an important feature of Prometheus too. But our cinema experience is so different now - the summer blockbuster was a relatively new concept in 1978. Nowadays, the big players are heavily reliant on the success of a tentpole movie. That means tailoring to as broad an audience as possible - I really expect Prometheus to be PG13 with an R rated cut shown at late performances or for Blu Ray release.
I also expected the production to involve a lot of cgi - because this is what is kind of expected by the audience from years of Hollywood conditioning; a hyperreal vision. Game culture is as much to blame for this, and it's competing with the movie industry for everyones dollars too. Unless Prometheus looks a billion times better than Halo or Fallout, you aren't going to persuade that audience to get into theatres. The only way to get this aesthetic is really through cgi.
I think Ridley will get the balance right, but cgi will play a big part in the film's final look. The crashing Derelict seqeunce for a start - that ain't no model. But it looks great.
Goodnight. Pretty much why there's so little of interest in the cinema these days.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 12, 2012, 11:44:17 PM
Here's a film I'm looking forward to this year that appears to keep things very simple and practical and it's oozing with atmosphere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDH0Ykyge0c#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDH0Ykyge0c#ws)
Wow...Michael Rodgers looks like a creepy Christian Bale!
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 13, 2012, 12:07:36 AM
Goodnight. Pretty much why there's so little of interest in the cinema these days.
Exactly. Ain't it a shame? :(
So much whining about the CGI. Get over it already, guys. Yes, yes, we should blame the videogames about this so-called "debacle" of Hollywood. Of course ::)
As much as I love animatronics and rubber beasties you have to accept those times are gone, and move on.
And have some faith in Sir Ridley. You certainly couldn't do it any better than him.
QuoteGoodnight. Pretty much why there's so little of interest in the cinema these days.
Nearly $8b worth of little interest in the top ten grossing films of 2011...
Anyone else noticed this?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/prometheuspreview108005.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/prometheuspreview108005.jpg/)
In this image in the 1080P version if you look to the right the other pilot is raising his arms as though cheering, I don't think the black guy is screaming in terror I think he's cheering.
Quote from: SM on Mar 13, 2012, 12:15:53 AM
QuoteGoodnight. Pretty much why there's so little of interest in the cinema these days.
Nearly $8b worth of little interest in the top ten grossing films of 2011...
Don't pull numbers on me. Crap sells. A product's revenue isn't a reflection on it's quality or originality. E.G. Avatar.
Quote from: appleguy on Mar 13, 2012, 12:18:41 AM
Anyone else noticed this?
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/prometheuspreview108005.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/prometheuspreview108005.jpg/)
In this image in the 1080P version if you look to the right the other pilot is raising his arms as though cheering, I don't think the black guy is screaming in terror I think he's cheering.
I've heard another one say that the other pilot was waving his arms in fear.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 13, 2012, 12:22:04 AM
Quote from: SM on Mar 13, 2012, 12:15:53 AM
QuoteGoodnight. Pretty much why there's so little of interest in the cinema these days.
Nearly $8b worth of little interest in the top ten grossing films of 2011...
Don't pull numbers on me. Crap sells. A product's revenue isn't a reflection on it's quality or originality. E.G. Avatar.
'Crap' is subjective and irrelevant. You don't sell nearly $8b worth of tickets if there's "so little interest".
Quote from: SM on Mar 13, 2012, 12:15:53 AM
QuoteGoodnight. Pretty much why there's so little of interest in the cinema these days.
Nearly $8b worth of little interest in the top ten grossing films of 2011...
Ah, I see the old 'cinema is dead' brigade is out in full force.
It's been pronounced dead since talkies began and yet... it just keeps on going. :P
Funny about that.
Quote from: Gazz on Mar 13, 2012, 12:25:36 AM
Ah, I see the old 'cinema is dead' brigade is out in full force.
It's not dead, it's just zombified ;) Bare in mind, that is just Hollywood. Foreign cinema is still aces. But Hollywood? Naaaaah.
Is that a mutated David, with extra long arms and legs, throwing someone down in the trailer?
Quote from: Kev Loaf on Mar 13, 2012, 12:28:34 AM
Is that a mutated David, with extra long arms and legs, throwing someone down in the trailer?
No, it's Sean Harris's character. He's our Mutant Space Zombie, or possibly Crazed Android Amok.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 13, 2012, 12:29:52 AM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on Mar 13, 2012, 12:28:34 AM
Is that a mutated David, with extra long arms and legs, throwing someone down in the trailer?
No, it's Sean Harris's character. He's our Mutant Space Zombie, or possibly Crazed Android Amok.
You know, there's obviously been talk we probably won't be seeing any Aliens in the movie. And that only the last 8 minutes of the films contains a direct connection to Alien (Derelict crash scene?).
So do you think it's likely that there's going to be more than one mutant transformation and we're our own enemies in space? And that the film might revolve largely around trying to find out more about this planet and discovering that the humans are closer to the alien species than we might think (and eventually evolve/mutate into them i.e. space jockey)?
How would you guys feel about that if that were the case? Do you think it will take away too much mystery and remove that sense of terror if they go that route? Or would you be excited to learn that there is a greater connection between the humans and the aliens? How would this affect the Alien universe for you? P.S. I'm not trying to spark flame wars - just really interested in what you all think. And I'm sorry if this has been discussed in large. I'm still obviously new around these parts.
And what do you think the likelihood is of this being the ending: We see Noomi and Charlize running away from the crashing Derelict. One or both of them survives and sends out a distress signal. An alien shows up and kills the renaming survivor/s or the remaining survivor investigates and meets her end inside?
Sorry, I'm trying to keep this post cohesive but I'm also just spewing out these random thoughts about topics that may or may not have been discussed to death. I'm new and not quite as cultured as you long-time Alien fans, so be nice. :P
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 13, 2012, 12:57:08 AMAnd that the film might revolve largely around trying to find out more about this planet and discovering that the humans are closer to the alien species than we might think (and eventually evolve/mutate into them i.e. space jockey)?
For me that would be fatal to the entire mythology. You would effectively have to re-name the original film
Not-So-Alien-Afterall. It would be an entirely cynical plot device and would kill the franchise. Mutants are bad enough; making
us the aliens is just plain ridiculous.
-Chris
Here's a more detailed GIF of that crazed throw courtesey of Vodi from the PrometheusNews Forum:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0L0yr.gif&hash=e840e0bb0bdfe7896a72763563f19c45d0945c95)
Can't get over that sexy blue muzzle flash!
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 13, 2012, 01:03:17 AM
Here's a more detailed GIF of that crazed throw courtesey of Vodi from the PrometheusNews Forum:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0L0yr.gif&hash=e840e0bb0bdfe7896a72763563f19c45d0945c95)
Can't get over that sexy blue muzzle flash!
It may not be a Jockey and it may be wearing a human suit (not entirely sold on that yet), but that is a beast, not a man IMO.
-Chris
It's this guy.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPRxV9.jpg&hash=d02388eb0929bfb8fb02ba2d88b9893e6da71696)
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 01:04:35 AM
It may not be a Jockey and it may be wearing a human suit (not entirely sold on that yet), but that is a beast, not a man IMO.
I know Sean Harris isn't really a pin-up, but that's still not very nice :P
http://bcove.me/a05xr2zx (http://bcove.me/a05xr2zx)
Has this been posted yet?
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 13, 2012, 01:03:17 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0L0yr.gif&hash=e840e0bb0bdfe7896a72763563f19c45d0945c95)
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 13, 2012, 01:07:10 AM
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPRxV9.jpg&hash=d02388eb0929bfb8fb02ba2d88b9893e6da71696)
What if there is no mutation at all? What if that is a different species of alien we're seeing in that image and the crew member is not meant to be mutating?
Think about it. He jumps off the vehicle (perhaps in an act of self-sacrifice) onto the alien, and one of the crew members has no choice but to use their flamethrower while the alien is attacking him. He gets burned/killed (see behind the scenes photo and the screen capture of what could be "remains" or part of his suit) and the alien does too?
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 13, 2012, 01:09:03 AMI know Sean Harris isn't really a pin-up, but that's still not very nice :P
A 'beast' to describe a human male can be complimentary, especially in a sexual context. I meant it in the 'not a human male' context though. ;)
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 13, 2012, 01:13:51 AM
http://bcove.me/a05xr2zx (http://bcove.me/a05xr2zx)
Has this been posted yet?
:laugh: :laugh:
-Chris
I think Cvalda was being sarcastic. :D
Quote from: First Blood on Mar 13, 2012, 01:17:38 AMI think Cvalda was being sarcastic. :D
Yeah I got that. OK you are right that all of the dots join up to it being
that guy. I am just desperately hoping the freaky-suddenly-super-strong-half-jockey-human-mutant thing is a mistake, although I guess he could be droid, which would be acceptable.
-Chris
Hmmm...
Yup, that's our favorite space mutant. Even an alien can use a loyal minion or two so that's how I'll look at it for the moment. Although with that bright blue spandex under his armor... if you throw in some biomechanical feature he'd be a pretty decent punk megaman! :)
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 13, 2012, 01:13:51 AM
http://bcove.me/a05xr2zx (http://bcove.me/a05xr2zx)
Has this been posted yet?
Haha, I love Spill so much. I can't wait to see their trailer talk for the second trailer.
Here's a high quality shot of the creature/crewman.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg163.imageshack.us%2Fimg163%2F1306%2Fcreature.png&hash=fdd193de65ae58e79ef61deb18d5f1b72e92e21e)
regular version
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg268.imageshack.us%2Fimg268%2F7335%2Fcreature2.png&hash=0b82992c0caad221c9c4348e3a3019e74fbe6ad3)
Whoa! I think I saw that face in the clouds, too! :o
blow up the image to 1080p. You can see an outline for a face.
This is cool but, I'm getting a little annoyed by these trailers for trailers. The 3 that came out before the 1st real trailer, for instance.I think fox really feels they're taking a gamble with this movie. I feel confident it will be an amazing movie but, I'm sorry but "the most anticipated movie" my ass. I'm excited, and you're excited but I know far more people who are excited for The Hunger Games and don't have any idea what Prometheus is. I think 20th century fox is scared that only us Alien and Predator fans will go see it. I want this movie to be of quality and to sell well. If it sells well we may get that sequel everyone is pining for.
Hey, it's a better marketing campaign than John Carter got.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 13, 2012, 02:35:13 AM
Hey, it's a better marketing campaign than John Carter got.
Knife in the heart dear sir. :'(
Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Mar 13, 2012, 02:31:17 AM
This is cool but "the most anticipated movie" my ass. I'm excited, and you're excited but I know far more people who are excited for The Hunger Games and don't have any idea what Prometheus is. I think 20th century fox is scared that only us Alien and Predator fans will go see it. I want this movie to be of quality and to sell well. If it sells well we may get that sequel everyone is pining for.
Never heard of it.
f**king awesome
Space jockey attacking the crew
that ship chasing the space jockey ship AWESOMENESS
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That doesn't look like a Jockey to me..
Its some alien man attacking the crew
The exterior shots of the ships in motion look like they were completely rendered in CGI. I guess all the talk about using actual sets had more to do with the surface of the planet and didn't include the construction of miniatures.
Oh well...
Actual sets as in actual settings, yeah; the ship corridors, planet shots and jockey tech. Im fairly okay with CGI ships.
Quote from: Gash on Mar 13, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Mar 13, 2012, 02:31:17 AM
This is cool but "the most anticipated movie" my ass. I'm excited, and you're excited but I know far more people who are excited for The Hunger Games and don't have any idea what Prometheus is. I think 20th century fox is scared that only us Alien and Predator fans will go see it. I want this movie to be of quality and to sell well. If it sells well we may get that sequel everyone is pining for.
Never heard of it.
Honestly, i don't know much about it either. the little bit I have seen makes it look like a rip off Battle Royale. My point is Prometheus is not the "most anticipated" anything. They're hyping us up, so that we create the buzz they're suggesting this movie already has.
Hobbit and Batman are more hyped. Though Hobbit isn't coming out till the end of the year. Don't know off hand when Batman comes out.
Oh, and The Avengers.
Quote from: Vulgotha on Mar 13, 2012, 02:23:32 AM
Here's a high quality shot of the creature/crewman.
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regular version
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remind me of this
could be the protoxeno?
It's very obvious Prometheus herself is a CG mesh, however thats a DAMN GOOD piece of CG work.
Honestly though? I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Whatever CG is in place here blends very nicely with the (mostly) practical photography and sets. We've already seen that this movie, especially by todays standards, has had TONS of very beautiful sets built for it, and i'm more than grateful for that. I'm not going to blow a gasket because some of it's CGI. It's good. We're fine.
Usually i'm a fairly hotheaded person about these sort of things, but I think this time they're really going the distance with the practical design and we should give them some leeway if they bring up the slack with CG. They have to save money somewhere. :)
Quote from: bioweapon on Mar 13, 2012, 04:18:56 AM
Quote from: Vulgotha on Mar 13, 2012, 02:23:32 AM
Here's a high quality shot of the creature/crewman.
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regular version
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remind me of this
could be the protoxeno?
What bout his obvious arm deformation? What is going on there?
Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Mar 13, 2012, 03:30:37 AM
Quote from: Gash on Mar 13, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Mar 13, 2012, 02:31:17 AM
This is cool but "the most anticipated movie" my ass. I'm excited, and you're excited but I know far more people who are excited for The Hunger Games and don't have any idea what Prometheus is. I think 20th century fox is scared that only us Alien and Predator fans will go see it. I want this movie to be of quality and to sell well. If it sells well we may get that sequel everyone is pining for.
Never heard of it.
Honestly, i don't know much about it either. the little bit I have seen makes it look like a rip off Battle Royale. My point is Prometheus is not the "most anticipated" anything. They're hyping us up, so that we create the buzz they're suggesting this movie already has.
i just watch the hunger´s trailer and looks family friendly to me.
i dont care if nobody else watch this movie and doesnt give a money chance for a second. i dont believe this happen. and i bet R. Scott can pull again with barely millions. so he dont have to worry bout that but his legacy. even that, idont think he secretly put a "special artist level homo erotic R rated".
Quote from: bioweapon on Mar 13, 2012, 06:55:05 AM
Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Mar 13, 2012, 03:30:37 AM
Quote from: Gash on Mar 13, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Quote from: GhettoDefendant on Mar 13, 2012, 02:31:17 AM
This is cool but "the most anticipated movie" my ass. I'm excited, and you're excited but I know far more people who are excited for The Hunger Games and don't have any idea what Prometheus is. I think 20th century fox is scared that only us Alien and Predator fans will go see it. I want this movie to be of quality and to sell well. If it sells well we may get that sequel everyone is pining for.
Never heard of it.
Honestly, i don't know much about it either. the little bit I have seen makes it look like a rip off Battle Royale. My point is Prometheus is not the "most anticipated" anything. They're hyping us up, so that we create the buzz they're suggesting this movie already has.
i just watch the hunger´s trailer and looks family friendly to me.
i dont care if nobody else watch this movie and doesnt give a money chance for a second. i dont believe this happen. and i bet R. Scott can pull again with barely millions. so he dont have to worry bout that but his legacy. even that, idont think he secretly put a "special artist level homo erotic giallo splacy R rated" version.
Look at that thing. Check the arms (it has it's left hand on the crew member's chest). If this is just a mutated douchebag, it is a grossly mutated douchebag. A pretty far cry from the leaping mohawk.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42431.0;attach=419;image)
-Chris
He's already been hit with the flamethrower at that point, hence his being on fire. The flesh on his face is all charred and stuff. Also, it's gotta be a stuntman, so that may be a bag over his head to protect him from the flames on his suit.
Mutant Space Zombie (henceforth MSZ) has either been rapidly mutated to the point he has super strength and is largely unphased by flame, or MSZ is actually a Crazed Android Amok (CAA :laugh:) going on the fritz, being manipulated by the Jockeys, or programmed for some alterior motive, like Ash was. Either way, been there, done that, old hat. It'll all be in the execution, I 'spose.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 07:16:02 AM
Look at that thing. Check the arms (it has it's left hand on the crew member's chest). If this is just a mutated douchebag, it is a grossly mutated douchebag. A pretty far cry from the leaping mohawk.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42431.0;attach=419;image
-Chris
in the second picture when i look at his head i see 2 eyes and a weird looking alongated nose, very similar overall with the head on that table from the trailer. also the dude looks pretty big. i say it's a 50/50 chance for being either a space jockey, either a crew member
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg718/scaled.php?server=718&filename=prometheuspreview108006.jpg&res=medium (http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg718/scaled.php?server=718&filename=prometheuspreview108006.jpg&res=medium)
I hereby declare myself hyped for the rest of this day
Ah, acronyms, that makes it easier. IMO this is not a MSZ, or a CAA. ;D
I am certain that I am (finally) looking at some kind of alien life form in the Prometheus material. Wishful thinking? Probably. I just see more beast than man in that profile.
-Chris
Sorry folks, but in Europe and Poland Prometheus is very much anticipated, and certainly has a blockbuster written all over it. Just my 0.03 PLN.
I don't know a shit about that shitty The Hunger Games with ugly Woody Harrelson either.
It's just a guy. Acting nuts. Dudes try to torch him. It didn't work just yet. I don't think it's an alien, and I don't think there are any mutations of the physical variety going on there. Probably something going on with the insides, though. That's my guess.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 07:16:02 AM
Look at that thing. Check the arms (it has it's left hand on the crew member's chest). If this is just a mutated douchebag, it is a grossly mutated douchebag. A pretty far cry from the leaping mohawk.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42431.0;attach=419;image
-Chris
Look at the helmet look at everything thats a jockey right there without a doubt.
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 13, 2012, 12:57:08 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 13, 2012, 12:29:52 AM
Quote from: Kev Loaf on Mar 13, 2012, 12:28:34 AM
Is that a mutated David, with extra long arms and legs, throwing someone down in the trailer?
No, it's Sean Harris's character. He's our Mutant Space Zombie, or possibly Crazed Android Amok.
You know, there's obviously been talk we probably won't be seeing any Aliens in the movie. And that only the last 8 minutes of the films contains a direct connection to Alien (Derelict crash scene?).
So do you think it's likely that there's going to be more than one mutant transformation and we're our own enemies in space? And that the film might revolve largely around trying to find out more about this planet and discovering that the humans are closer to the alien species than we might think (and eventually evolve/mutate into them i.e. space jockey)?
How would you guys feel about that if that were the case? Do you think it will take away too much mystery and remove that sense of terror if they go that route? Or would you be excited to learn that there is a greater connection between the humans and the aliens? How would this affect the Alien universe for you? P.S. I'm not trying to spark flame wars - just really interested in what you all think. And I'm sorry if this has been discussed in large. I'm still obviously new around these parts.
And what do you think the likelihood is of this being the ending: We see Noomi and Charlize running away from the crashing Derelict. One or both of them survives and sends out a distress signal. An alien shows up and kills the renaming survivor/s or the remaining survivor investigates and meets her end inside?
Sorry, I'm trying to keep this post cohesive but I'm also just spewing out these random thoughts about topics that may or may not have been discussed to death. I'm new and not quite as cultured as you long-time Alien fans, so be nice. :P
Benedict Wong, Rafe Spall and Kate Dickie have pretty much revealed in interviews they have gruesome fates under an Alien creature. Ridley cites there are maybe 2 androids and creature/creatures...fair to say there's definitely one, possibly 2.
Quote from: Infected on Mar 13, 2012, 08:58:07 AMLook at the helmet look at everything thats a jockey right there without a doubt.
Maybe a Jockey, maybe not, but I just cannot reconcile that visage with a human being, no matter how burned or bloated he/she is. Anyway, this is beating a dead horse now as everyone has different points of view that probably won't change based on this footage, but I am willing to bet that whatever it is it's not human and probably never was human.
-Chris.
It's not the Jockey. The burning guy is the "jumping mutant" and the guy dead or injured on the ground is probably the guy the mutant jumping on in the first trailer. This is the same scene and I continue to think that these mutants things are on their way to a complete mutation and this is not the final stage.
Maybe 1-2 minutes,maybe a few seconds between the first and third image and he looks a little bit different. His head seems huge in the last images.
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It can't be denied. It is definitely the same scene, and the guy on the floor is right where he should be after being jumped on from the top of RT02, meaning that the eminent bad guy in both bits of footage is one and the same; the mohawk. I don't like this, even if he was originally an android and not a human. Ugh.
But f**k all that because, you know, Derelict!
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;D
-Chris
What I love about these images is how sumptuous and rich they are with color and dark saturation. This film will hopefully not only be amazing on a story level, but a feast for the eyes.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 13, 2012, 07:26:40 AM
Mutant Space Zombie (henceforth MSZ) has either been rapidly mutated...
Hahahaha... that had me almost in tears, considering my illustrious film career as an uncredited extra as a bystander in the background, skinny dipping teen in love and not many years ago, a
flesh eating zombie in gritty western surroundings, with blood and guts and everything ;D
...which merrits the question... Ridley needed a short Scandinavian actress with reddish hair to star in his Alien prequel (!!!) and he chose to hairdye some Swede from some obscure film with a tattoed girl... Oh Ridley, why
her... why
her...??! :'( :laugh:
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 09:37:52 AM
It can't be denied. It is definitely the same scene, and the guy on the floor is right where he should be after being jumped on from the top of RT02, meaning that the eminent bad guy in both bits of footage is one and the same; the mohawk. I don't like this, even if he was originally an android and not a human. Ugh.
But f**k all that because, you know, Derelict!
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;D
-Chris
Amen.
This...
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+ Ridley Scott
:)
-Chris
Anyone else notice the odd tattoos on the guy with the Mohawk's head before he releases the red laser imaging things ;)
Those laser things by the way, I wouldn't be surprised if they are used to map the caverns.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 11:02:05 AM
This...
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+ Ridley Scott
:)
-Chris
It looks quite computer gamish.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 13, 2012, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 11:02:05 AM
This...
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+ Ridley Scott
:)
-Chris
It looks quite computer gamish.
Always remember guys, this film was from the beginning intended to be a 3D flick. And how happy Sir Scott was to first time handle this technology and never want´s to go back.
We will not see a movie with the casual and unpredictable flair in design and style, like ALIEN was. That should be for sure by now.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 11:02:05 AM
This...
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+ Ridley Scott
:)
-Chris
Is that a ringed planet in the background? Shit, maybe this place
is LV-426.
I bet it's going to be turned into LV-426 through reverse terraforming.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 13, 2012, 11:56:09 AMIt looks quite computer gamish.
The screen I posted
is color corrected of course.
-Chris
Quote from: irn on Mar 13, 2012, 12:02:51 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 11:02:05 AM
This...
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+ Ridley Scott
:)
-Chris
Is that a ringed planet in the background? Shit, maybe this place is LV-426.
It easily could be. This is why I have stopped listening to anything anyone involved in the film says. The are feeding lies to try to keep as much secret as possible. Which obviously makes guessing even more fun!
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 07:16:02 AM
Look at that thing. Check the arms (it has it's left hand on the crew member's chest). If this is just a mutated douchebag, it is a grossly mutated douchebag. A pretty far cry from the leaping mohawk.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42431.0;attach=419;image
-Chris
So far this is potentially the biggest disappointment and [groan] "oh no they didnt really do this for the movie did they ?" scene from the trailers
I'm not expecting or hoping to see the same old xenomorph in Prometheus, but DNA altered humans going apeshit isnt at all scary, we've seen it all before and I for one am completely bored by GM human monsters undergoing bodily transformations that turn them into homicidal psychopaths
Giger, Giger,giger,giger............why didnt Ridley and co let him create something fantastic and truly startling from that fecund imagination of his ?!............not the lazy and uninspired schtick of big headed ugly freaks in spacesuits...........as soon as I saw similarly moronic looking/acting creatures 10 minutes into 'Pandorum' I snap shut down 'Media Player Classic Home Cinema' and eagerly deleted the offending file.
At the start when news 1st spread that riddly scott was making a new alien prequel... i was quite interested, but pretty much since the release of the movie name... and every bit of news since then has gradually killed any bit of excitement about it... its a shame that the bit of mystery left in alien was the space jockey... and now finding out theyre just going to make it some stupid guy in a suit and theyre gods or whatever is just a load of crap. Making this film become just like any other of the movies these days, all about being shot in 3d and special effects, but neglecting storyline... am i really the only one who hates the idea of all this time the space jockey being a bold guy with probably a bit of jewellry on his face ? and all this mutants running around buisness.. i dunno, maybe theres too many younger people that just like seeing pointless gore and big flashy lights in films... and im not even that old lol but oh well, could atleast some actual aliens in this ...but not even that. The alien franchise is well and truely dead after this, which is probably for the best. Ill stick to my memories of the original alien, aliens and alien 3. ::)
Quote from: JKS1 on Mar 13, 2012, 01:02:14 PM...as soon as I saw similarly moronic looking/acting creatures 10 minutes into 'Pandorum'
A perfect example of how making a triviality of something that could of been far scarier with just a bit more imagination ultimately ends up with bitter disappointment.
-Chris
Quote from: JKS1 on Mar 13, 2012, 01:02:14 PM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 13, 2012, 07:16:02 AM
Look at that thing. Check the arms (it has it's left hand on the crew member's chest). If this is just a mutated douchebag, it is a grossly mutated douchebag. A pretty far cry from the leaping mohawk.
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=42431.0;attach=419;image
-Chris
So far this is potentially the biggest disappointment and [groan] "oh no they didnt really do this for the movie did they ?" scene from the trailers
I'm not expecting or hoping to see the same old xenomorph in Prometheus, but DNA altered humans going apeshit isnt at all scary, we've seen it all before and I for one am completely bored by GM human monsters undergoing bodily transformations that turn them into homicidal psychopaths
Giger, Giger,giger,giger............why didnt Ridley and co let him create something fantastic and truly startling from that fecund imagination of his ?!............not the lazy and uninspired schtick of big headed ugly freaks in spacesuits...........as soon as I saw similarly moronic looking/acting creatures 10 minutes into 'Pandorum' I snap shut down 'Media Player Classic Home Cinema' and eagerly deleted the offending file.
I'm not sure why so many are quick to jump to conclusions...surely, we didn't see anything in the original Alien trailers...do we think Ridley is going to show us anything special in the Prometheus trailer?
Also...as much as you may not have liked the creatures in Pandorum...in the end (which I am guessing you did not see) you find out there really were no creatures...
And if you saw something like this in Prometheus, would you like it?
http://art.vniz.net/en/giger/Giger-Painting_022a.html (http://art.vniz.net/en/giger/Giger-Painting_022a.html)
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 13, 2012, 01:43:13 PMAlso...as much as you may not have liked the creatures in Pandorum...in the end (which I am guessing you did not see) you find out there really were no creatures...
Bingo.
-Chris
^You guys must not have watched the same "Pandorum" I did.
I'm all for constructive criticism and differing opinions but when you start judging a film before its even been released, before you've even given in a chance isn't fair in the least bit. If you see it and are disappointed, so be it. Right now you're making assumptions based on fractions of seconds in a trailer.
There were creatures in Pandorum... he just hallucinated some of them at the end.
At least, that's how I saw it.
Quote from: JKS1 on Mar 13, 2012, 01:02:14 PM
Giger, Giger,giger,giger............why didnt Ridley and co let him create something fantastic and truly startling from that fecund imagination of his ?!
Now, this is just me speculating...
...but if Prometheus ends up featuring less, pure 'Giger'sqe' creations than people would expect, in a production with his name attached to it, it could simply be that old man Giger has no creative desire to re-invent himself/the designs he made for Alien.
To add, he (and Ridley) would be the first people to know that there's no way to re-capture the revolutionary designs they did +30 years ago, so why try? It could end up backfiring on the film if they proposed to the audience, that this film will feature groundbreaking new alien designs, comparable to the original Alien... it could backfire horribly and a man of
Gigers sensebilities would never allow that to happen as I see it.
Restraint is an often overlooked virtue of the design disciplines. So often have I revisited stuff I've done for various projects, where I realized that the design was too 'obvious'... craving too much attention to itself and not the bigger picture and ideas.
Not saying this is the scenario for Prometheus or dismissing your comment in any way - I have no idea whatsoever how much Giger contributed to Prometheus. I'm just very happy that he was involved in the first place. :)
Quote from: Game_Over_Man on Mar 13, 2012, 09:00:42 AM
Benedict Wong, Rafe Spall and Kate Dickie have pretty much revealed in interviews they have gruesome fates under an Alien creature. Ridley cites there are maybe 2 androids and creature/creatures...fair to say there's definitely one, possibly 2.
And different types as well, just run down the crew list - fur, contact lenses, prosthetics, latex foam, creature facial animators, prosthetic make up artists, etc, etc. I suppose the greatest biological weapon would be one that randomly infected people with various conditions. You would not know what you are fighting against.
Added the 1080p English version of the preview video. Same link as the previous one.
I have to butt in here. I've noticed how many people are now slagging off the film...
I've cut out all the rubbish (black screens titles etc.) from the two previews, and what we have is 47 seconds of footage from what will probably be a 2 hour (and hopefully, plus) movie.
Making such a judgement on a film that we all, quite honestly, know very little about seems somehow slightly churlish.
I want to see this in 3D, on an IMAX screen, I don't really care about the quality of CGI - what I've seen so far looks great.
79 days (UK release) and counting...
Quote from: Kronik on Mar 13, 2012, 02:22:48 PM
I have to butt in here. I've noticed how many people are now slagging off the film...
I've cut out all the rubbish (black screens titles etc.) from the two previews, and what we have is 47 seconds of footage from what will probably be a 2 hour (and hopefully, plus) movie.
Making such a judgement on a film that we all, quite honestly, know very little about seems somehow slightly churlish.
I want to see this in 3D, on an IMAX screen, I don't really care about the quality of CGI - what I've seen so far looks great.
79 days (UK release) and counting...
I agree with you, really I do.....it does look jaw droppingly good, the Ridley 'wow' factor is clearly in evidence.......i'm very happy with how it all looks.........with the one big, obvious, glaring exception of the now famous 'Hey You Guys' leaping mohawked 'I failed the 'Hills Have Eyes' audition' space mutant
And
that is what is potentially so frustrating....to have something that could be really great, possibly (possibly...we dont know for sure yet) ruined by a lame generic yawn inducingly familiar and not at all scary or even vaguely interesting, but key element
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 13, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
There were creatures in Pandorum... he just hallucinated some of them at the end.
At least, that's how I saw it.
The creatures were mutated crew members...which is why they ultimately did not look like creatures...as some might have expected.
Pandorum, on the whole...was OK.
Mutated crew members...ahhh...not that again!!!
I'm personally fine with the idea that mutations could be part of Prometheus.
Does anybody remember Altered States? I am thinking that mutation in that way...is effective.
Altered States was a mix of 2001 and The Fly and I did like the movie, indeed.
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 13, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 13, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
There were creatures in Pandorum... he just hallucinated some of them at the end.
At least, that's how I saw it.
The creatures were mutated crew members...which is why they ultimately did not look like creatures...as some might have expected.
Oh, that's what you meant. I thought you meant it was all in his head.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 13, 2012, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: JKS1 on Mar 13, 2012, 01:02:14 PM
Giger, Giger,giger,giger............why didnt Ridley and co let him create something fantastic and truly startling from that fecund imagination of his ?!
Now, this is just me speculating...
...but if Prometheus ends up featuring less, pure 'Giger'sqe' creations than people would expect, in a production with his name attached to it, it could simply be that old man Giger has no creative desire to re-invent himself/the designs he made for Alien.
To add, he (and Ridley) would be the first people to know that there's no way to re-capture the revolutionary designs they did +30 years ago, so why try? It could end up backfiring on the film if they proposed to the audience, that this film will feature groundbreaking new alien designs, comparable to the original Alien... it could backfire horribly and a man of
Gigers sensebilities would never allow that to happen as I see it.
Restraint is an often overlooked virtue of the design disciplines. So often have I revisited stuff I've done for various projects, where I realized that the design was too 'obvious'... craving too much attention to itself and not the bigger picture and ideas.
Not saying this is the scenario for Prometheus or dismissing your comment in any way - I have no idea whatsoever how much Giger contributed to Prometheus. I'm just very happy that he was involved in the first place. :)
I understand what youre saying, and no i'm not hoping at all for some re-invention or recapturing of the classic Xeno, or for Giger, Ridley and co to try and create something that 'trumps' that original iconic creation...no not at all.
What I am saying though is that Prometheus is clearly set in the same Universe as 'Alien', and in keeping with that whole mythology and 'world', creatures imagined/created/envisioned by Giger would be far more inkeeping with this 'world' and mythos.
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 13, 2012, 02:43:17 PM
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 13, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: Alienseseses on Mar 13, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
There were creatures in Pandorum... he just hallucinated some of them at the end.
At least, that's how I saw it.
The creatures were mutated crew members...which is why they ultimately did not look like creatures...as some might have expected.
Oh, that's what you meant. I thought you meant it was all in his head.
The lines are blurred there a little...especially in the end...between what's real and what's not.
I'd have to go back and watch it again to see for sure...but I am pretty sure Payton, Bower and the girl are real...along with some mutated humans.
Finaly an extented trailer, that was a long wait.
The Mohawk guy can be a android?
Looks amazing !!!!!!!!
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 13, 2012, 12:05:36 PM
I bet it's going to be turned into LV-426 through reverse terraforming.
I concur. This will be paradise lost! perhaps a parable for Adam and Eve and the taking of the apple (knowledge)?
Looks awesome!
Quote from: Narcissus on Mar 13, 2012, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 13, 2012, 12:05:36 PM
I bet it's going to be turned into LV-426 through reverse terraforming.
I concur. This will be paradise lost! perhaps a parable for Adam and Eve and the taking of the apple (knowledge)?
That's what I mentioned a while ago in this thread, too. An allegory to some esoteric knowledge once found but then lost and destroyed would be a very nice and fitting Alienesque touch to it too (after all Nostromo was destroyed and Alien exterminated even if he was considered most precious to WY).
Please some one tell me how a person/thing jumping off of a ledge somehow becomes a cliche? Do we have context for what's going on in that scene? Do we know what's happening to the guy at all?
NO. WE. DON'T.
STOP.
:) ;) ;)
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 13, 2012, 04:35:57 PM
Quote from: Narcissus on Mar 13, 2012, 04:18:41 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 13, 2012, 12:05:36 PM
I bet it's going to be turned into LV-426 through reverse terraforming.
I concur. This will be paradise lost! perhaps a parable for Adam and Eve and the taking of the apple (knowledge)?
That's what I mentioned a while ago in this thread, too. An allegory to some esoteric knowledge once found but then lost and destroyed would be a very nice and fitting Alienesque touch to it too (after all Nostromo was destroyed and Alien exterminated even if he was considered most precious to WY).
Yes, I was sure that this had been speculated as well. We know that man is at first welcomed in Paradise, shown some of the amazing technology--perhaps even warned. Ultimately, it is either Weyland's original intent to have the droid (David) programmed to steal a specimen (priority one) or perhaps it is one of the crew member's who steals thunder from the God's--thus harming any possible chance of co-existing peacefully. This was true even in a reversal of the story with "The Day the Earth Stood Still" where the Gods (a benevolent alien race) visit us instead and Mankind's first act is to distrust the visitor and shoot first and destroy any chance to receive a miracle which could cure sickness and end World famine. It should be a great story--but probably has been told in some form already. Really looking forward to the release!
Quote from: Infected on Mar 12, 2012, 09:50:22 PM
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it looks like his arms are growing out of his suit.
The arms on that thing are soo long!
Absolutely and the head is apparently growing too. If he's really changing it's definitely a fast transformation. But into what ?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 13, 2012, 05:30:26 PM
Please some one tell me how a person/thing jumping off of a ledge somehow becomes a cliche? Do we have context for what's going on in that scene? Do we know what's happening to the guy at all?
NO. WE. DON'T.
STOP.
:) ;) ;)
Indeed. I'm not even sure of where all this talk of a mutant came from. One guy is shown jumping from the back of a vehicle and suddenly he's pronounced as being a super human 'Hills Have Eyes' mutant. Admittedly I haven't read any leaked scripts or spoilers but there's no basis for this assumption from anything seen in the trailers. The guy's lit from below, which is what makes his face look weird, other than that all that can really be said is that he's mad as hell.
People dismissing this film like they actually know what it's all about - :(
And CGI. Of course it's got CGI, what modern sci-fi film wouldn't take advantage of CGI. It's how it's employed that matters, does anyone think that a sci-fi film would be all practical model shots and animatronics these days? It'll use the best of both with any luck. I've never seen a Ridley Scott film which was let down by visuals, Gladiator, Hannibal and Black Hawk Down all mix practical FX and CGI convincingly.
I can't personally use computer games as a reference point as I don't play them, but surely all these things are seeded from ALIEN anyway. Difficult for Ridley to try to look original and stay true to ALIENs design ethos after so many of the things in the genre he 'redefined' has been ripped off by everyone ever since.
Ok, if the Space Jockey (or whatever) looks as bad a the zombie vampires in I Am Legend then feel free to complain. Until then, nit picking the look of a spaceship, and assuming a lame mutant plot is.. well, seriously jumping the gun.
Still if you're happy ripping to shreds I'll let you get on with it, whilst I wait to see what the real film is all about.
Check out the extremely thin disproportionate foot poking out the bottom of the leg!
CGI fvk-up or wierd mantis-like creature growing before our very eyes?
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Looks as if it was a female with her feet exposed?
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 13, 2012, 09:14:49 AM
It's not the Jockey. The burning guy is the "jumping mutant" and the guy dead or injured on the ground is probably the guy the mutant jumping on in the first trailer. This is the same scene and I continue to think that these mutants things are on their way to a complete mutation and this is not the final stage.
Maybe 1-2 minutes,maybe a few seconds between the first and third image and he looks a little bit different. His head seems huge in the last images.
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Guys guys, look at the number on the 6 wheeler. RT 02, its the one the guy jumps off, then in the next shot is the one with the dead "thing2 on the floor, i've a feeling the jumping mutant is the dead thing on the floor, the grappling thing, is something else!
hanger room brawl!
I do understand where people are coming from on a least 1 level...
Over the past decade we have been inundated with super hero movies. These are, for the most part, sci-fi popcorn flicks.
I have enjoyed most of them (esp the 1st chapter in most cases with the exceptions being Spidy and Batman where the 2nd was better) but they do pretty much cover just about every angle of human mutation we can think of (x-men...hulk) and have made 'jumping from high places' and other super human activities rather commonplace in films.
Obviously...Ridley knows this.
When he makes a trailer for Prometheus...he's going to have to show something of this nature if he wants to grab a wider audience...but I don't think it's necessarily indicative of what we will see throughout the film.
Let's use Pandorum as an example...perhaps it illustrates how this type of trailer can backfire...but nonetheless it works for this scenario.
The Pandorum trailer would lead you to believe there are people who wake up on a ship that's suddenly full of aliens and that's what the movie will be about. In this case, is it purposefully misleading? Yes, probably.
If the movie had been better...then most people would not have minded being misled.
The movie was OK...so most people probably thought...hmmm...that wasn't what I thought it was about and it wasn't very good.
I think...and of course, I don't know Ridley from Adam...Ridley and Fox feel confident enough that if they can get you into the theater, you'll like the movie and it most likely won't be for what you saw in the trailer.
Just my opinion.
Quote from: Dirty Harry on Mar 13, 2012, 03:45:08 PM
The Mohawk guy can be a android?
Yes - check out his tattoos for further clues. Maybe.
Quote from: St_Eddie on Mar 12, 2012, 05:04:31 PM
The most likely answer is a mutating human. Remember that a reliable sounding source a while back had heard that 'Prometheus' is partially akin to 'The Thing... In Space'? Seems credible based on what we're seeing. I know that there's many people who don't like this concept but trying to see a full on Space Jockey in that particular shot is just fooling yourself in my opinion.
As for myself... I'll be perfectly happy with 'The Thing... In Space' providing it's executed with great skill. I hear a lot of talk on these forums about how "space zombies are lame"; not only wasn't 'The Thing' a zombies flick but it's also one of the greatest concepts for a horror film ever (and in my top 5 of all time - along with 'The Fly', which is also relevant in this case I think). I respect those who disagree but frankly, I fine with 'Prometheus' taking that route.
Yeah, that 'reliable source' was me - I'm an unreliable source now.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 13, 2012, 06:13:08 PM
Quote from: Infected on Mar 12, 2012, 09:50:22 PM
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it looks like his arms are growing out of his suit.
1 or 2 frames after this one, you can also clearly see a real huge hand. Impressive.
Guuuurls, i've compared the same scenes from the old and new trailer (old one bottom)
looks like ridley likes editing official released meterial, the new version looks darker, less colors and notice how much the smoke and debris/fire changed in the second picture!!!
Shooting from the hip, but I'm not speculating about the 'mutation' aspect you guys are discussing in the sense that the infected victim will transform into a different living alien being.
I'm imaging a horrifying biological process that essentially destroys you when it's done with you, like the most aggressive virusses we know only much, much worse and gory.
We might be reading the short clips we've seen wrong - it might not be an infected crewmember attacking the crew, but an infected crewmember defending himself agaist the crew trying to kill him to contain what they believe is a threat. I think it's a given at this time that the crew will be attacked by alien biological engineer technology, perhaps caused by their own carelessness - the shot of the guy in the smoking/melting helmet, Noomi Rapace in sick bay looking very distressed and a female crewmember seen collapsing to her feet from behind with her white clothing drenched in some sort of material - 'alien goo' similar to what David is seen handling perhaps?
Not sure how much we can deduce about the creature doing the throwing regarding its identity from studying the stills, as it is probably a stunt double in that short clip, but it was a clever idea nevertheless... ;)
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 13, 2012, 06:41:14 PM
Looks as if it was a female with her feet exposed?
That's what I thought. Is that a problem? Just looks like a foot being pointed.
Quote from: SM on Mar 13, 2012, 07:50:49 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 13, 2012, 06:41:14 PM
Looks as if it was a female with her feet exposed?
That's what I thought. Is that a problem? Just looks like a foot being pointed.
Blimey - is your nimble foot that far away from your crotch?
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 13, 2012, 07:02:14 PM
Quote from: Kol on Mar 13, 2012, 06:13:08 PM
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it looks like his arms are growing out of his suit.
1 or 2 frames after this one, you can also clearly see a real huge hand. Impressive.
hand that looks like the thing btw
So maybe that "something" lying on the ground is the mohawk guy and this is actually a chick ??? Not that it matters that much to me, though.
No. The jumping guy don't have his helmet. The injured or dead man on the ground have the glass of his helmet broken.
It's still a chick to me, though, btw.
It's amazing how so much little new footage can throw speculation in the air and make everything we know so much more intriguing, so this full length trailer this weekend is gonna make us all don our thinking caps and dig deeper into our speculative imaginations, i'm looking forward to this. :)
What if it isn't a mutated crew-member?
What if the crew just thinks it is, but really it's an "alien creature" that instead of just gestating inside the crew member and sucking off nutrients (a la *the* Alien) or mutating the crew member, it totally consumes the crew member and, just like *the* Alien, gets some of its DNA from the crew member it has consumed so the general features are the same (bipedal, two arms, etc.). Inside the suit, how can you tell what's happening? *The* alien went from a chestburster to fully grown in 3-6 hours, something could grow inside the suit and completely replace the crew member in the same period of time or even faster. Whatever Ridley wants it to be, really.
The possibilities for just *what* the "Mutant space zombie" is really are endless, people are limiting themselves in trying to figure out what it is.
After seeing the picture of the jumping mutant,
i think its the same if you look at the suit he is wearing its has the same armor looking plates on the legs.
The jockey suits has a ribcage on the outside.
But he is turning into something and what that is i dont know he could be a android because his suit is different and maybe he is mallfunctioning or infected with some junk.
I wonder if the guys with the guns can stop him.
Because seeing the clip when they are gonna ram the derelict looking craft that suggest to me that they have run out of options and the alien creatures are far more stronger.
The burning guy is definitely not a Jockey.
Look at this. Maybe it has been posted already. This is a size comparison of the Jockey and the humans made by mixing the orrery shot from the teaser and the orrery scene from Alien with Kane on it. The Jockeys are really massive.
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For anyone that's interested, this is the music used in the teaser for the trailer -
http://youtu.be/FUdRuh2h78s (http://youtu.be/FUdRuh2h78s)
Quote from: Promethean Fire on Mar 13, 2012, 09:31:50 PM
For anyone that's interested, this is the music used in the teaser for the trailer -
http://youtu.be/FUdRuh2h78s (http://youtu.be/FUdRuh2h78s)
I Love You.
What's the running time for the trailer again? 2:32ish? Same length as that track, so I'm guessing the full track may be used in the trailer.
Good. Really good. I like trailers edit entirely with a single piece of music.
Quote from: Promethean Fire on Mar 13, 2012, 09:31:50 PM
For anyone that's interested, this is the music used in the teaser for the trailer -
http://youtu.be/FUdRuh2h78s (http://youtu.be/FUdRuh2h78s)
Awesome :)
Audiomachine should do entire film scores - this is so much better than 90% of summer blockbuster film scores made today.
Quote from: Promethean Fire on Mar 13, 2012, 09:38:24 PM
What's the running time for the trailer again? 2:32ish? Same length as that track, so I'm guessing the full track may be used in the trailer.
Myeh. Typical Zimmer-ish cliche Blockbuster trailer music. I hope if they're using it in the full trailer, they apply a healthy amount of ALIEN trailer sirens ;)
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Quote from: SM on Mar 13, 2012, 07:50:49 PM
Quote from: Salt The Fries on Mar 13, 2012, 06:41:14 PM
Looks as if it was a female with her feet exposed?
That's what I thought. Is that a problem? Just looks like a foot being pointed.
Blimey - is your nimble foot that far away from your crotch?
If I had long legs that were close the camera - yeah.
Quote from: SM on Mar 13, 2012, 10:08:12 PM
If I had long legs that were close the camera - yeah.
Mutant!
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 13, 2012, 10:04:51 PM
Myeh. Typical Zimmer-ish cliche Blockbuster trailer music. I hope if they're using it in the full trailer, they apply a healthy amount of ALIEN trailer sirens ;)
Its certainly very un-ALIEN like. But I guess that's the point. They are selling this movie as something else. A mega sci-fi epic. The Dark Side of Avatar.
Quote from: Gash on Mar 13, 2012, 06:34:37 PMPeople dismissing this film like they actually know what it's all about
Not at all, just speculating as always and discussing opinions on how we feel about our different ideas. If we had written the film off we wouldn't still be here.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 13, 2012, 09:22:57 PM
The burning guy is definitely not a Jockey.
Look at this. Maybe it has been posted already. This is a size comparison of the Jockey and the humans made by mixing the orrery shot from the teaser and the orrery scene from Alien with Kane on it. The Jockeys are really massive.
http://www.prometheusnews.net/pix/size-comparison.jpg
+1042
-Chris
Wow, I thought that was the worst piece of music I have heard in a while. [And I hear a lot of music in my life]. Guess it is just not my thing.
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 13, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
Wow, I thought that was the worst piece of music I have heard in a while. [And I hear a lot of music in my life]. Guess it is just not my thing.
Nothing very special about it as music, generic trailer stuff which adds some impetus to the imagery. Will come across better with the sounds of the film added, but Prometheus itself will hopefully be much richer.
Quote from: Gash on Mar 13, 2012, 10:33:53 PM
Quote from: fiveways on Mar 13, 2012, 10:26:07 PM
Wow, I thought that was the worst piece of music I have heard in a while. [And I hear a lot of music in my life]. Guess it is just not my thing.
Nothing very special about it as music, generic trailer stuff which adds some impetus to the imagery. Will come across better with the sounds of the film added, but Prometheus itself will hopefully be much richer.
I found it to be worse then most trailer stuff but i just think I have higher hopes for this movie then, well anything else coming out as it is the only one i will actually go to a theatre to watch. I felt it took away from the imagery. it sounding more like music from "Dragon Age" then a sci fi film. Plus I hate the chanting bits now. Just makes me cringe with how cliched it is.
I felt the music in the first teaser worked far better. But if I had my way most scifi movies would barely have tonal soundtracks at all.
But I can be accused of being a super picky soundtrack snob. And I will be the first to admit that I am just that. Soundtracks can easily make or break a film to me. I've hated a lot of movies because of what I felt was poor soundtrack choices or the soundtrack felt like it was designed to generate more revenue and not enhance the viewing experience.
To me, the teaser preview had also very underwhelming, tacky, sentimental and corny music, but whatever...Let's hope it's only to create a big epic feeling for non-Aliens fans...
we should remember that typically trailers are sent to post-houses that focus on making actual trailers, and that's about it. Obviously studio sends guidelines as to what they want to see, usually with director input. The people that end up crafting these trailers usually are working on several trailers from several films at once.
I'm hoping that the music used for the trailer on saturday will feature some of the cues utilized in the actual film.
You know what's funny? The 'mutant' could be in the film for 1 minute, and they kill it. NECA has already stated that they are making toys of the creatures, and I highly doubt that this guy is going to be a big seller.
I think showing the mutant guy going berserk is like Ash is a damn robot. It's not a huge part of the story. ;)
How can you be so sure ? We knows absolutely nothing about the real plot and what those "mutants" are.
I'm going to refer to a budget of Alien again: Invasion of the Body Snatchers had only $3.5m budget (it came out 1978), and despite that had a stellar cast of Donald Sutherland, Brooke Adams, Leonard Nimoy, Jeff Goldblum, Veronica Cartwright and it was beautifully shot, had amazing production values and had AMAZING avantgarde jazz score. Would you call it a low-budget producton if I didn't tell you its budget now ???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnP1KmO_l8#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlnP1KmO_l8#ws)
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Look at the right arm/hand on that thing!!
I'm having trouble accepting that this thing is the jumping mohawk guy. The situation and the surroundings sure seem to suggest that it is him, but he/it looks pretty far fetched from the guy we've seen leaping off the rover in the previous trailer.
Here's a pic from the previous trailer's trailer(!), I presume this is Mr. Jumpy Mohawk going round the back of the rover, slightly on fire, getting ready to scale up it and jump off the top onto the unfortunate Mr. Flamethrower.
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His/it's head looks pretty weird in this shot, not unlike how the new weird thing's head looks, and I could imagine this guy & that new weird thing being one and the same individual, but imho, neither of them looks like Mr. Jumpy Mohawk.
Also, is this scene from the previous trailer the same scene as all this is going down in?
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The way the two mercenary guys (for lack of a better way of describing them) are positioned looks the same, but the environment's lighting looks totally different, and there's no super-cool blue muzzle flash either.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this bit on the 1st of June and thinking to myself "aahhh! so that's what happens here!"
amongst other things....
Not only we`ve got trailers for trailers, now we have also adverts for trailers :D
The world has gone mad today
And good's bad today,
And black's white today,
And day's night today,
And that gent today
You gave a cent today
Once had several chateaux. ;)
Quote from: Master on Mar 14, 2012, 10:28:03 AM
And black's white today,
Best avoid any zebra crossings then, methinks ;)
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 14, 2012, 10:48:41 AM
Quote from: Master on Mar 14, 2012, 10:28:03 AM
And black's white today,
Best avoid any zebra crossings then, methinks ;)
Guy was a prophet
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;)
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Look at the right arm/hand on that thing!!
I'm having trouble accepting that this thing is the jumping mohawk guy. The situation and the surroundings sure seem to suggest that it is him, but he/it looks pretty far fetched from the guy we've seen leaping off the rover in the previous trailer.
Here's a pic from the previous trailer's trailer(!), I presume this is Mr. Jumpy Mohawk going round the back of the rover, slightly on fire, getting ready to scale up it and jump off the top onto the unfortunate Mr. Flamethrower.
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His/it's head looks pretty weird in this shot, not unlike how the new weird thing's head looks, and I could imagine this guy & that new weird thing being one and the same individual, but imho, neither of them looks like Mr. Jumpy Mohawk.
Also, is this scene from the previous trailer the same scene as all this is going down in?
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The way the two mercenary guys (for lack of a better way of describing them) are positioned looks the same, but the environment's lighting looks totally different, and there's no super-cool blue muzzle flash either.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this bit on the 1st of June and thinking to myself "aahhh! so that's what happens here!"
amongst other things....
Don't forget motion blurr can cause some nasty effects. Although the hand does look big. Don't presume that its a huge hand. It could just be the motion blur
Quote from: nendo on Mar 14, 2012, 11:10:12 AM
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 14, 2012, 10:25:33 AM
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Look at the right arm/hand on that thing!!
I'm having trouble accepting that this thing is the jumping mohawk guy. The situation and the surroundings sure seem to suggest that it is him, but he/it looks pretty far fetched from the guy we've seen leaping off the rover in the previous trailer.
Here's a pic from the previous trailer's trailer(!), I presume this is Mr. Jumpy Mohawk going round the back of the rover, slightly on fire, getting ready to scale up it and jump off the top onto the unfortunate Mr. Flamethrower.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1158.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp613%2FArcyarc%2Fprometheus_teaser_3_10.jpg&hash=567bb408ca60b92557299daf9b0881a4fe00c582)
His/it's head looks pretty weird in this shot, not unlike how the new weird thing's head looks, and I could imagine this guy & that new weird thing being one and the same individual, but imho, neither of them looks like Mr. Jumpy Mohawk.
Also, is this scene from the previous trailer the same scene as all this is going down in?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1158.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp613%2FArcyarc%2FMercs.jpg&hash=5f86755514b7cbbe3c9a97688cd5842e71c6898f)
The way the two mercenary guys (for lack of a better way of describing them) are positioned looks the same, but the environment's lighting looks totally different, and there's no super-cool blue muzzle flash either.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this bit on the 1st of June and thinking to myself "aahhh! so that's what happens here!"
amongst other things....
Don't forget motion blurr can cause some nasty effects. Although the hand does look big. Don't presume that its a huge hand. It could just be the motion blur
it's not just the hand, but also the legs and what seems to be the head... to me this thing doesn't resemble a human at all. if this is mohawk guy, he's gone through a pretty nasty transformation. maybe he will turn out to become the alien as we know it in the last 8 minutes.
Prometheus will likely be as different from Alien as Aliens was. Months and months ago Fassbender said that the film has a good deal of action, and some scenes from the teaser trailer evoke Aliens (Noomi in the vehicle seems to mirror Ripley taking command of the APC) and the film-makers have constantly said that the film is more epic, big, and David Lean-esque. Horror will be a factor, but not as in Alien. You're not going to get that cramped, leaky, battered look from the vehicles or equipment, nor the claustrophobic, intimate feel from the camera-work and set pieces. We've been well prepared for this, so surprise can hardly be excused. Personally I'm very happy with everything I've seen so far.
I think it's going to be a less-action oriented than Aliens but more action-oriented than Alien. And I'd be fine with that.
I'm quite pleased myself with everything I've seen thus far. The imagery is living up to the Scott name, hopefully the story will too. I also hope this film is a solid two hours and twenty minutes or more.
Official Trailer Countdown
http://www.facebook.com/PrometheusMovieUK?sk=app_268911853190050 (http://www.facebook.com/PrometheusMovieUK?sk=app_268911853190050)
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Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 14, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
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That's a mock up right?
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 03:17:27 PM
Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 14, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
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That's a mock up right?
I exactly know not. It is possible, it is a shot of trailer.
http://forum.kinopoisk.ru/showthread.php?p=3273206&posted=1#post3273206 (http://forum.kinopoisk.ru/showthread.php?p=3273206&posted=1#post3273206)
It's fan art. Just translated something from that link that say's it is.
Look.
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Yes, it's a mock up. Obviously that Derelict-Class starship doesn't park on the ground vertically. I don't know why people keep replicating images as if that's the way it will be in the film. It's CRASHING! lol :)
There are some similarities between 'The Betty' and The Prometheus, and I'm okay with that. Visually Alien Resurrection was a feast, and pitch perfect.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 14, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
There are some similarities between 'The Betty' and The Prometheus, and I'm okay with that. Visually Alien Resurrection was a feast, and pitch perfect.
Agree.
Resurrection looks good apart from the CGI ALIENS and I'm not a big fan of the colour tone. But that's an issue with all Jeunet's movies for me.
I love colour tone in Resurrection and I loved it in Delicatessen and City of Lost Children. It's Darius Khondji's visual flair. I love it. Great cinematographer.
Jeunet + Khondji + Phelps = Pure dope.
Look:
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look at what?
Never noticed this guy before.Watching it frame by frame, you actually see him jump back in the seat
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Quote from: Ra3D on Mar 14, 2012, 03:14:22 PM
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there is a video of someone making that on youtube. More fan stuff.
I respect the skill but it looks awful.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 14, 2012, 04:26:11 PM
look at what?
I think the point being that Prometheus takes many cues from the design work in the original A L I E N, the basic shape and prongs are as much reminiscent of the Nostromo as the Betty, and all the sequels have in some ways emulated ship design from A L I E N concepts. So rather than look at Prometheus (the ship) as borrowing heavily from Alien resurrection, look at it as being part of the established design ethos of the alien universe that Cobb, Foss et all created.
Quote from: Arcyarc on Mar 14, 2012, 10:25:33 AM
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Look at the right arm/hand on that thing!!
I'm having trouble accepting that this thing is the jumping mohawk guy. The situation and the surroundings sure seem to suggest that it is him, but he/it looks pretty far fetched from the guy we've seen leaping off the rover in the previous trailer.
Here's a pic from the previous trailer's trailer(!), I presume this is Mr. Jumpy Mohawk going round the back of the rover, slightly on fire, getting ready to scale up it and jump off the top onto the unfortunate Mr. Flamethrower.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1158.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp613%2FArcyarc%2Fprometheus_teaser_3_10.jpg&hash=567bb408ca60b92557299daf9b0881a4fe00c582)
His/it's head looks pretty weird in this shot, not unlike how the new weird thing's head looks, and I could imagine this guy & that new weird thing being one and the same individual, but imho, neither of them looks like Mr. Jumpy Mohawk.
Also, is this scene from the previous trailer the same scene as all this is going down in?
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1158.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp613%2FArcyarc%2FMercs.jpg&hash=5f86755514b7cbbe3c9a97688cd5842e71c6898f)
The way the two mercenary guys (for lack of a better way of describing them) are positioned looks the same, but the environment's lighting looks totally different, and there's no super-cool blue muzzle flash either.
I'm really looking forward to seeing this bit on the 1st of June and thinking to myself "aahhh! so that's what happens here!"
amongst other things....
looks like the (laser?) shots dont do damage to the mutant/protoxeno coz the mercernaries seems to drop back
The derelict position reminds me on that:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42127.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42127.0)
:laugh:
Quote from: Gash on Mar 14, 2012, 04:52:23 PM
So rather than look at Prometheus (the ship) as borrowing heavily from Alien resurrection, look at is being part of the established design ethos of the alien universe that Cobb, Foss et all created.
That was my first thought when I saw this shot:
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 14, 2012, 03:33:45 PM
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...which instantly reminded me of Cobbs Snark design from Alien:
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The front end of the ships have many similarities, like the stripe design across the hull. I like how they chose yellow markings for Prometheus - it
could be a small nod to the fact that The Nostromo model in Alien, was painted yellow instead of grey until Ridley designed to change it.
Yes, I'm a design nerd so what lol... :D
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 14, 2012, 03:33:45 PM
Look.
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In other thread I wrote about similarities between both Betty and Prometheus ;)
i dislike the blue engine lights. they look more like the LEDs of a music set than something hot. and they have no contrast.
Anyone want a proper official 1080p master copy of the English trailer preview, which is not one of those YouTube rips? Much clearer picture (90mbps bitrate! Much higher than Blu-ray which is about 20mbps) Ideal for screencaps!
http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/INTL_TrailerAnnoucement_20_1080pFINAL.mov (http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/downloads/INTL_TrailerAnnoucement_20_1080pFINAL.mov)
Wow, that guy is definitely mutated into... something. I didn't quite see just how big his head and arm was in the other trailer but now it's clear as day.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 14, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
i dislike the blue engine lights. they look more like the LEDs of a music set than something hot. and they have no contrast.
Flame colour debends of the temperature of the flame and gas that you use, so blue is kinda the hottest. ::) Here's one explanation:
http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/3BA.html (http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/3BA.html)
But I agree after another look, that they look a bit like LEDs like you said.
Can someone do 1080 screengrabs of the throwing guy please? I downloaded the trailer and all im getting is a white screen.
Quote from: Gazz on Mar 14, 2012, 05:27:23 PM
Wow, that guy is definitely mutated into... something. I didn't quite see just how big his head and arm was in the other trailer but now it's clear as day.
I agree. To my eyes that head and those hands/fingers remids me a lot of xenomorph/human hybrid. Some kind of mutation for sure.
Quote from: Alienhog on Mar 14, 2012, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 14, 2012, 05:13:44 PM
i dislike the blue engine lights. they look more like the LEDs of a music set than something hot. and they have no contrast.
Flame colour debends of the temperature of the flame and gas that you use, so blue is kinda the hottest. ::) Here's one explanation:
http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/3BA.html (http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/3BA.html)
they still don't feel right... they should be completely white.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
Can someone do 1080 screengrabs of the throwing guy please? I downloaded the trailer and all im getting is a white screen.
Open it with VLC or QuickTime. It's not the typical type of .mov codec. Doing screencaps now.
Quote from: antovolk on Mar 14, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
Can someone do 1080 screengrabs of the throwing guy please? I downloaded the trailer and all im getting is a white screen.
Open it with VLC or QuickTime. It's not the typical type of .mov codec. Doing screencaps now.
I tried both. Just getting a white screen. Screen-Grabs would be appreciated thanks.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 06:24:04 PM
Quote from: antovolk on Mar 14, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
Can someone do 1080 screengrabs of the throwing guy please? I downloaded the trailer and all im getting is a white screen.
Open it with VLC or QuickTime. It's not the typical type of .mov codec. Doing screencaps now.
I tried both. Just getting a white screen. Screen-Grabs would be appreciated thanks.
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Thanks. The pictures still aren't conclusive to what we are actually looking at. I did definitely see the limbs stretch though in the teaser.
The suit of the burning thing seems to tear. Like if something was inside growing and tearing it. Look at the sleeve in the second image.
Well, ok there's something in this one. Look at that head.
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what's with it?
The head on that thing is huge...
Yeah. I noticed that too. If this is the head of the Mohawk guy she's definitely not the same than in the first trailer.
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If you look at the shape of the attacker it's the same as one of the crew wearing a space helmet. SO maybe the "acid" substance is actually a virus that infects and alters the molecular shape of the being while becoming symbiotic with it.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 06:44:53 PM
Well, ok there's something in this one. Look at that head.
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JYep saw it too it looks like a jockey head/mask but still the ribcage is missing.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
If you look at the shape of the attacker it's the same as one of the crew wearing a space helmet. SO maybe the "acid" substance is actually a virus that infects and alters the molecular shape of the being while becoming symbiotic with it.
Its possible but....i dont want to ;D
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 06:56:49 PM
If you look at the shape of the attacker it's the same as one of the crew wearing a space helmet. SO maybe the "acid" substance is actually a virus that infects and alters the molecular shape of the being while becoming symbiotic with it.
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If you go with the ALIEN DNA comment and that you won't recognise it till the end then that might fit. So basically it's a spacesuit covered in ALIEN DNA. Eventually it will morph into an ALIEN.
So the Xenomorph in it's pure form is.........goo? Grrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeat.
In regards virus/xeno morphing. It's an idea from an unused script for ALIEN3. Maybe Ridley isn't just harvesting unused ideas from ALIEN alone.
Here is a post from somebody on another forum who has read the unused ALIEN3 script.
In regards mutation:
It's not unprecedented because something similar happened in an unused script for Alien 3. And if Giler and Hill fed Ridley ideas about how to get around facehuggers/chestbursting it's not totally out of the realm of possibility. In the script that features Hicks and Bishop, with Ripley in a coma, the alien genetics/bioweapon are analyzed and altered so the eggs are miniaturized, releasing spores instead of huggers. As you can imagine a scientist breaks the stasis the miniature egg is kept in and a puff of spores is released. Almost all the aliens (all those at the main setting of the story) would have been spawned by infected people in a similar way. They should have just written in that they chestburst afterwards, but their skin peels off and they become a classic Xenomorph. Only, you didn't know when someone would burst and it was a little ridiculous because the change wouldn't occur so fast. They'd literally pop out of their skin and reveal a full grown xenomorph. I think if Ridley does anything at all like this the change will be much slower, and more realistic. Exlained by nanites like some have guess, instead of the facehugger spore being weaponized. We might see small tendons sprout instantly from someones back, but that's as far as Ridley would go. What those writers were doing was playing with the idea that the organism could morph any biological material to reproduce, an idea presented in the deleted scenes of Alien. They made it able to do this on a further microscopic level by miniaturizing the eggs/ facehugger spores or embryos, in an attempt to weaponize it for their own purposes. So the idea is the organism uses ALL the organic material and tissue to fully mature within the person.
Seems interesting and plausible for Prometheus.
But that doesnt explains why they build a ship for the mutating zombie guy or a star map plotter thing.
Gotta say the guy with the mohawk releasing the balls with the lasers does look a little like the blue giant.
What are you talking about? Nobody builds a ship for the mutant zombie guy. He's a crew member gone wild.
The guy releasing the balls is has a Mohawk? Where?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 14, 2012, 10:06:14 PM
The guy releasing the balls is has a Mohawk? Where?
Check the screen grabs. Mohican, tattooed head and beard.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 14, 2012, 10:06:14 PM
The guy releasing the balls is has a Mohawk? Where?
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Looks pretty clear to me.
Oh wow! Badass. A bit of a punk in this flick. I dig.
tmjhur , the script, you mentioned above, belongs to cyberpunk sci fi writer William Gibson, just if you would ever be intrested to read it ;)
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 06:44:53 PM
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The guy, who hurls away other one, seems to me like a mummy, wraped in tattered dirty swathes over his crew member's space suit.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 14, 2012, 06:44:53 PM
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When I make this picture larger it's almost like I can see the glint of an eye and something of a mouth on the creatures/ mutated man's head, to the left of Fassbender's arm in this picture.
I think I've just been looking at these pictures too much :P
Even in that small snippet of a clip I get a sense of Giger and Huente in terms of feel and structure.
Quote from: Gash on Mar 14, 2012, 10:15:12 PM
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 14, 2012, 10:06:14 PM
The guy releasing the balls is has a Mohawk? Where?
Check the screen grabs. Mohican, tattooed head and beard.
Yes, him, nice tattoos by the way!
So maybe it was him, whom we saw jumping from above and onto the mutating attacker then, and who consequently got his head smashed, as we see the dead body on the floor behind the dark guy (mummy attacker)?
I think the mutated attacker everyone is talking is the guy jumping. Hence the reason he's not wearing a helmet and y'know... his rather strange looking face. I think the person we see him jumping on is the dead man with the flamethrower at his side at the end of the loading bay.
The body on the floor is wearing a helmet - the mohawk guy isn't. I'm thinking that the body is the sad remains of the guy who wielded the flamethrower, as it is lying on the floor right next to him.
definatly not human, if you look in the frame by frame the hands are like the original alien's hands the index and middle stuck together and the pinky stuck to the other with an extra pinky plus the arms are really long
and the suit has a bizarre biomechanical look if you look where each body part is jointed for movement
i really dont know what that is probably the jockey really doesnt seem like infected crew, i think the one charactor with the bizarre infection had withcome to the conditions or something like a severe form of embolism
Quote from: Gazz on Mar 14, 2012, 10:34:09 PM
I think the mutated attacker everyone is talking is the guy jumping. Hence the reason he's not wearing a helmet and y'know... his rather strange looking face. I think the person we see him jumping on is the dead man with the flamethrower at his side at the end of the loading bay.
Yes, I guess you're right, making the parallel between mutated attacker and jumping guy. But the person, assaulted by him in the last teaser looks to me the same as the one, crouching down at the past 1 minute trailer. And flamethrower's holder, I assume, was murdered yet before the jump.
Quote from: tacksoap on Mar 14, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
definatly not human, if you look in the frame by frame the hands are like the original alien's hands the index and middle stuck together and the pinky stuck to the other with an extra pinky plus the arms are really long
and the suit has a bizarre biomechanical look if you look where each body part is jointed for movement
Can you enlarge the image and crop out his hand out of it?
Quote from: Gazz on Mar 14, 2012, 10:34:09 PMI think the mutated attacker everyone is talking is the guy jumping. Hence the reason he's not wearing a helmet and y'know... his rather strange looking face. I think the person we see him jumping on is the dead man with the flamethrower at his side at the end of the loading bay.
All of the clues seem to suggest this you're right. He must go through some kind of werewolf-like transformation - assuming of course that all of this action happens quickly - because he is
totally a monster by the time he uses the other poor guy to wax the RV.
-Chris
Quote from: Eva on Mar 14, 2012, 10:36:05 PM
The body on the floor is wearing a helmet - the mohawk guy isn't. I'm thinking that the body is the sad remains of the guy who wielded the flamethrower, as it is lying on the floor right next to him.
There is a picture in this thread (reply #332 actually) where you can clearly see the mohawk/mutant guy leaning against a wall and though it is also blurry you can see how he does in fact still have a partial helmet dome (a large section of it is broken off though and he is also on fire. I don't see why there is a question in people's minds.
Long limbs or not, the character doing the throwing appears to absolutely be the mohawk guy. If you frame through the 1080p version of the teaser you can see armor that matches his on his legs as well as a gloved hand (the non-throwing one if memory serves, I am at work).
I'm sorry, I just have to interject...
Yo dawg, I heard you liked trailers, so we made a trailer for your trailer so you can hype while you hype.
Spoiler
From the Spill video, yeah, but it's all I can think about in this thread.
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I'm seriously starting to think that the Engineer we see in the trailer is actually one of the Prometheus crew, forceably mutated into one. Just look at the suit he's wearing--it looks a damned sight like the Prometheus crew suits, even with the cowl at the back--which, interestingly enough, seems to be part of the Engineer's neck, biomechanically fused. Methinks that's what our Mutant Space Zombie friend might be turning into--or maybe the Engineer activating the chair is actually Holloway, since we know he also gets hit with the acid/whatever as well. I remember reading a while back where someone hypothesized that the Jockeys themselves are long dead, and need human hosts to resurrect themselves. Hmmm.
Thats what iv thought all along.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 15, 2012, 03:08:52 AM...seems to be part of the Engineer's neck, biomechanically fused
A bit borg-ish don't you think? That leads straight to the the god awful conclusion (IMO) that there are no aliens, only altered humans, and the 'aliens' are some kind of invisible nano-tech.
Hoping you're wrong, but somehow doubting that you are.
-Chris
Then next logical question is....'who's piloting the ship?'
I'm thinking the ship is already on the planet and it takes off with plans to go to earth or whatever and the Prometheus crashes into it to stop it>
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 15, 2012, 03:54:46 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 15, 2012, 03:08:52 AM...seems to be part of the Engineer's neck, biomechanically fused
A bit borg-ish don't you think? That leads straight to the the god awful conclusion (IMO) that there are no aliens, only altered humans, and the 'aliens' are some kind of invisible nano-tech.
Hoping you're wrong, but somehow doubting that you are.
-Chris
I'm with you on that! If I find out that the aliens are actually altered humans or if the story is anything close to that, I'm not going to be a happy camper. This will kill the intense atmosphere and mystery associated with the aliens. There needs to be some kind of disconnect between us and the aliens.
I hope the new trailer has enough to lead us to believe (or hopefully prove) this isn't the case without giving the game away.
I just really, really don't want Prometheus to suck. Yes, I expressed a little disappointment in there being more CGI than I would have liked but the film still looks beautiful so far. My main concern at this point is the story. I want the story to be as rich and as intricate as I think it will be. And I love this cast. This can't suck. This just can't.
Please Ridley. Please Fox.
There are spores that trap ants and take over their bodies forcing the ants to basically work for them, and eventually kill themselvhes to further the lifecycle of the spore. It's fascinating and terrifying. Why can't the mutation take on this idea and yet bring it further? That's a huge disconnect between strange or parasitic presence and the capturing and enslaving of the free-willed human. I can't think of a scarier or more horrible way to go.
I don't get how we rule out ideas because WE don't see them working? Someone explain it to me?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 15, 2012, 04:58:51 AMThere are spores that trap ants and take over their bodies forcing the ants to basically work for them, and eventually kill themselvhes to further the lifecycle of the spore. It's fascinating and terrifying. Why can't the mutation take on this idea and yet bring it further?
Or the bug that shuts down the part of a rat's brain so it is no longer afraid of cats, because it needs to get into a cat to mature. Eeesh.
I agree it's a creepy idea, but how can you portray that on film without excessive exposition from the crew or banal psycho-drama? IMO you can't effectively go from real monsters that could cut you in half with a fart to microscopic monsters that can only be properly shown under a crewman's microscope.
Scott: How can we make these aliens scarier?
Lindelof: I know! We'll make them tiny, and invisible.
Scott: Brilliant! f**k I'm wasted...
-Chris
Quote from: Vickers on Mar 15, 2012, 04:41:40 AM
I just really, really don't want Prometheus to suck. Yes, I expressed a little disappointment in there being more CGI than I would have liked but the film still looks beautiful so far. My main concern at this point is the story. I want the story to be as rich and as intricate as I think it will be. And I love this cast. This can't suck. This just can't.
Please Ridley. Please Fox.
My thoughts exactly. I'm remaining cautiously optimistic.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 15, 2012, 03:08:52 AM
Methinks that's what our Mutant Space Zombie friend might be turning into--or maybe the Engineer activating the chair is actually Holloway, since we know he also gets hit with the acid/whatever as well.
They both could undergo mutation, actually all the team could be affected to more or less degree.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 15, 2012, 03:08:52 AM
I remember reading a while back where someone hypothesized that the Jockeys themselves are long dead, and need human hosts to resurrect themselves. Hmmm.
Nice point. Honestly, the attempt of now extinct alien race ro recreate themselves at expense of humans appeals to me much better, than "we created Aliens ourselves" plot. Moreover if it turns out, that crew will not have to fight breathing Alien species, but rather the remnants of alien technology, augmented with crew's own curiosity.
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 15, 2012, 04:30:37 AM
Then next logical question is....'who's piloting the ship?'
What does make you think the ship
needs a pilot?.. Horseshoe-shaped thing might be programmed preliminarily and triggered by our mishappy crew to float down the course.
The IMDB page of the film has changed again.
Now, There is only the names of the main actors playing the crew + Pearce & Wilson. No more Mercs or Engineer characters. Only the crew. And apparently Patrick Wilson is Shaw's Father.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/fullcredits#cast (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/fullcredits#cast)
I think the jumping mowhawk guy is a puppet after being infected by something,
then his master comes in and deals with the rest of the guys.
But we dont know much maybe there are more different of jockey look a likes.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 15, 2012, 05:15:37 AM
I agree it's a creepy idea, but how can you portray that on film without excessive exposition from the crew or banal psycho-drama? IMO you can't effectively go from real monsters that could cut you in half with a fart to microscopic monsters that can only be properly shown under a crewman's microscope.
Well, they worked the gruesome life-cycle of an insect into Alien, I'm sure they could do if for Prometheus without needless exposition.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 12, 2012, 10:29:04 AM
Wow. That's a whole lotta CGI. :-\ And more Mutant Space Zombie madness!
Glad they're still using the original ALIEN trailer siren, now mixed with standard Blockbuster trailer choir instead of that tacky Inception BWAAHM :)
Im one of the most anti CGI person ever (I watched hugo the other day and I stoped it after 23 seconds. No joke)., and I have to say that CGI here looks great.
Quote from: Valaquen on Mar 15, 2012, 11:21:29 AM
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 15, 2012, 05:15:37 AM
I agree it's a creepy idea, but how can you portray that on film without excessive exposition from the crew or banal psycho-drama? IMO you can't effectively go from real monsters that could cut you in half with a fart to microscopic monsters that can only be properly shown under a crewman's microscope.
Well, they worked the gruesome life-cycle of an insect into Alien, I'm sure they could do if for Prometheus without needless exposition.
But they did that with literal monsters. The sequence of facehugger to chestbuster to adult alien didn't need any kind of explanation and didn't rely on the audiences understanding of creepy insect behavior.
-Chris
I seriously doubt that the engineer is a mutated member of the Prometheus crew for the simple reason that there appears to be 4 large cryochambers in the Jockey Chair room (ie the egyptian sarcophagus looking things).
And in the scene in the trailer where we saw the enigneer on the right of the screen, the cryochamber on the left is definitely open. Surely this is the one that he just came out of?
Also, someone here spotted a 'blue suited body' lying just behind the said cryochamber. Perhaps someone from the prometheus crew triggered it open accidentally, then the engineer arose with a bad hangover and knocked him/her unconscious?
Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 15, 2012, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 15, 2012, 03:08:52 AM
I remember reading a while back where someone hypothesized that the Jockeys themselves are long dead, and need human hosts to resurrect themselves. Hmmm.
Nice point. Honestly, the attempt of now extinct alien race ro recreate themselves at expense of humans appeals to me much better, than "we created Aliens ourselves" plot. Moreover if it turns out, that crew will not have to fight breathing Alien species, but rather the remnants of alien technology, augmented with crew's own curiosity.
That's an interesting concept. It not entirely far-fetched that when the engineers developed the alien xenomorphs (if that is indeed the case), they integrated aspects of their own lifecycle, meaning the need for a host.
If the engineers turn out to be our makers/Gods, were we only created to become a reduced and disposable part of their lifecycle and not a civilization in our own right? Ridley said this much - that the crew would confront a civilization demonstrating a very uncivilized behaviour.
About the tall being (engineer?) seen when the famous chair rises - it seems to me that the sarcophage on the left has opened, so I guess that he emerged from that. I think he's preparing to pilot the ship and this scene will be happening just moments before we see the ships collide while in flight.
Edit: 180924609 was faster than me ;)
My thought exactly. The big blue "Engineer" came out of a Cryo Chamber in the main control chamber, and is not a mutated crew member. Unless the chamber has something to do with the mutation process?
That leads to the question(S).
Are the engineers and space jockeys different aliens? Or is a space jockey simply an Engineer wearing the suit? If they are different it's my opinion that that the Space Jockeys are slaves to serve the Engineers.
By most accounts we are pretty sure that some crew members are being changed/mutated. I wonder if they are being changed into space jockeys to serve as slaves?
We are reasonably sure that Shaw gets impregnated or serves as a host to something. I'm wondering if this progenitor to our Xenomorphs?
Cant wait to see the answers.
I don't think this room is a "chamber" and has something to do with some mutation process or things like that. And I think the blue guy is the Engineer. In the shot of the first trailer he's preapring his ship to left off.
I still think that this room is the command room of the Derelict and the chair is the pilot seat.
After the impact with the Prometheus, the Jockey tries to maintain his ship but the Xeno burst his chest, he dies and he crashes on LV4-26.
If it's a sacrifical chamber or whatever, why the Galaxy map ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqyLU3Vq3Tw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqyLU3Vq3Tw#ws)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 15, 2012, 01:35:02 PM
I don't think this room is a "chamber" and has something to do with some mutation process or things like that. And I think the blue guy is the Engineer. In the shot of the first trailer he's preapring his ship to left off.
I still think that this room is the command room of the Derelict and the chair is the pilot seat.
After the impact with the Prometheus, the Jockey tries to maintain his ship but the Xeno burst his chest, he dies and he crashes on LV4-26.
If it's a sacrifical chamber or whatever, why the Galaxy map ?
I guess I should rephrase that. Cryo chamber = the four pods on the floor.
When I asked, "Unless the chamber has something to do with the mutation process?" I was talking about the four pods on the floor and not the whole room.
Control Chamber = the room as a whole where the chair, map, and four pods are located. I don't think there is anything sacrifical about the room or the pods. I was just thinking out loud as to the possible purposes of the four pods
Hi
long time lurker, first time post..
I've read so much about the film on this site and others and loved the forensic dissection of every tiny drop of the very little information we've been drip fed over the last year or so. But something of my excitement is slowly ebbing away as we talk about human mutation and Jockey suits where now as the film draws closer it really ought to be growing..
And I think I've worked out why it is.
My love of ALIEN (and as like a half life, to a much lesser degree all that followed) is rooted squarely with the alien. But not just its final stage or indeed any part of its cycle but rather IT, and it's surroundings utter alieness. From the biomechanical vessel and pilot, the queesy psycho sexual body horror of the egg and hugger, the carnage of its 'birth' to the vicious singleminded relentlessness of the UTTERLY terrifying final creature (that to this day is still the beast in any of my nightmares). This specific alieness, this vicious horror, is the product of one vision. HR Gigers vision..
He may have not written the script or directed the film but can you imagine the outcome if it weren't for him? Sure Ridley is fantastic and Blade Runner remains my favourite film, but even with his direction, the cast and everyone else involved in the production the film would not still occupy that dark place in our colective conciousness if it weren't for that perfectly realised 'alieness' that Giger rendered in both concept and final physicality.
Now with Prometheus, although it has been said that he is attached to the film in some capacity, there has been very very little spoken about his involvement from Scott, Fox or any other source about what he's actually doing. You might argue that they're holding something back for some reason, but for the life of me I can't think why they would. When Fox spends however many hundreds of millions of pounds on making and marketing a project like this do you not agree that if there is anything and I mean anything that they might utilise to engender interest or excitement that they wouldn't? Why wouldn't they attach Gigers name more prominently to any of their marketing? Leaving aside the esoteric nature of his creations appeal he was after all responsible for the only Academy Award that the film received so on a purely academic level why have we not heard anymore about his involvement? You might also argue that if he was explicitly involved it would point to the inclusion of the xenomorph itself which they are clearly still teasing us with (for the record i don't care whether the actual creature appears in this movie or not I just want more of that biomechanical vision is all) but of course Giger is responsilble for the derelict and the Jockey too, so again, why not?..
I'm left with the sad realisation that he's probably only been involved more in an advisory capacity as a courtesy to his initial involvement. Or simply he's decided himself not to get involved too much because either he felt shafted by Fox after Alien3 or he's just too old to comit so much of his time and energy to a project this big...
So Prometheus, directed by a great director, with a fantastic cast, in the ALIEN universe but WITHOUT much Giger? I'm afraid that I think that I'm going to enjoy it.
But not love it....
It looks like David is the one who finds the Orrery, it's in total darkness when he arrives, it's probably him who activates the mechanism for revealing the control desk and chair and ultimately the Star Map. When he first arrives all the sarcophagi are sealed so he must be involved somehow with the opening of that one.
Makes you think what David is up to though, it seems that he may be responsible for opening the door to the Ampule Room as well so how come he is conversant with SJ technology?
Here's the conundrum as we continue to discuss the 'what ifs' in regards to Prometheus. We've bandied about so many ideas about every part of this film; can we be satisfied or happy with what we finally get if it ultimately doesn't match up to what we think?
This is the real danger about internet hype and forums. It reaches a fever pitch that a film cannot possibly match.
The four pods on the ground are maybe just Hypersleep pods for the Derelict crew.
The question that really intriguing me is how the Jockey arrived on this planet and why ?
Maybe the film will touch a theme of a sentient robotic being (android - David) achieving transcendence ???
VGER
And it's obvious that the Genesis Device has been used on the planet. Movie is just a Star Trek rip-off, I want my money back.
About the Prometheus story, the jockey part. I was more thinking of a plot like this shitty Supernova of Walter Hill. A space crew taking aboard their ship a strange passenger with evil intentions. Twisting their minds and offering them gifts... I like this kind of plot.
Quote from: 180924609 on Mar 15, 2012, 12:35:28 PMAnd in the scene in the trailer where we saw the enigneer on the right of the screen, the cryochamber on the left is definitely open. Surely this is the one that he just came out of?
that could very well be the elder really pissed off at us and before doing something..., fun
Quote from: ikarop on Mar 15, 2012, 02:27:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqyLU3Vq3Tw#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqyLU3Vq3Tw#ws)
Thanks Micheal. I'm Bat Chain. Thanks for the heads up!
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 15, 2012, 03:15:39 PM
Here's the conundrum as we continue to discuss the 'what ifs' in regards to Prometheus. We've bandied about so many ideas about every part of this film; can we be satisfied or happy with what we finally get if it ultimately doesn't match up to what we think?
This is the real danger about internet hype and forums. It reaches a fever pitch that a film cannot possibly match.
In the end it boils down to THAT. The movie will succeed or fail on a personal level depending on whether you like the hypothesized versions better than what we actually get. I think the future of film making will be based on this phenomenon. Basically it will be 'movie mods' that audiences can tailor make/tweak to suit there own cinematic appetites based on a core set of elements produced by the film company.
We are already doing this everyday in our minds when we see trailers. They just have to find a way to sell it to use and then display our work. Imagine how many versions of the Star Wars films there would be.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 15, 2012, 03:37:37 PM
The four pods on the ground are maybe just Hypersleep pods for the Derelict crew.
The question that really intriguing me is how the Jockey arrived on this planet and why ?
Some of the screenshots suggests to me, that we are dealing with both an engineer ship/vessel and some kind of ancient installation on the planet. The humans could be entering the installation first, where the gaping hole in the floor, the big head and the dead decapitated space jockey they find could be located. If so, I would imagine that this fixed place and the ship were connected when we first encounter them. Later, the team could be exploring the control room etc. without realizing they are inside a vessel. Just a thought to add to the already existing 9748 theories lol... :)
I've totally forgot about the dead Jockey.
Is it a dead SJ or a discarded SJ Suit? :)
If this is a dead Jockey. It must have been killed by the Engineer. Who else ? Was the Engineer on the run, chased by his own kind ?
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Mar 15, 2012, 06:05:19 PM
Is it a dead SJ or a discarded SJ Suit? :)
I seem to remember that Ridley said that the 'God(s) that gave us fire' suffered a terrible fate within this films narrative/univers, meaning not in a metaphorical sense. So, I'm inclined to think there's a body inside that suit and they bring the head+helmet back for studies in their ship (they might bring all of it, but we've only seen the head in the trailer).
My $0.02 anyway...
Its possible the jockeys aka the blue bald giant are some kind of thieves of somekind.
The other tech could be from the saucer shape aliens the more advanced.
Would explain a little why the derelict had lasers to keep the eggs in sleep stases because they couldnt control them and thats probably why a jockey got ripped open.
One theory also ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX85c5IlV6I#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX85c5IlV6I#ws)
At 0:17 to 18 or so you can see it jumping can someone make a gif? because the thing is wearing a helmet also in that clip.
And at 0:23 you can see the guys flaming things on the ground so the theory about the parasites could be solid.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 15, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
If this is a dead Jockey. It must have been killed by the Engineer. Who else ? Was the Engineer on the run, chased by his own kind ?
Suicide, closed the door on it's neck. Seriously.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 15, 2012, 05:46:58 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 15, 2012, 03:37:37 PM
The four pods on the ground are maybe just Hypersleep pods for the Derelict crew.
The question that really intriguing me is how the Jockey arrived on this planet and why ?
Some of the screenshots suggests to me, that we are dealing with both an engineer ship/vessel and some kind of ancient installation on the planet. The humans could be entering the installation first, where the gaping hole in the floor, the big head and the dead decapitated space jockey they find could be located. If so, I would imagine that this fixed place and the ship were connected when we first encounter them. Later, the team could be exploring the control room etc. without realizing they are inside a vessel. Just a thought to add to the already existing 9748 theories lol... :)
The Ampule Room looks to be a huge egg-shaped container buried in the rock and is seperate from the Derelict type ship (where that is hidden, who knows?). Also seems the initial expedition splits up; Shaw, David and Mudow(?) explore the Ampule Room whilst the rest; Holloway, Fifield and a couple of others search the remains of the indigenous Ancient Civilisation (which we have not really seen yet). It seems to be after they meet up, at the hole, that something bad happens to one or more of them. My guess is when they go down the hole.
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 15, 2012, 09:12:53 PM
The Ampule Room looks to be a huge egg-shaped container buried in the rock and is seperate from the Derelict type ship (where that is hidden, who knows?). Also seems the initial expedition splits up; Shaw, David and Mudow(?) explore the Ampule Room whilst the rest; Holloway, Fifield and a couple of others search the remains of the indigenous Ancient Civilisation (which we have not really seen yet). It seems to be after they meet up, at the hole, that something bad happens to one or more of them. My guess is when they go down the hole.
But the windows on the top of the more detailed picture of the ampule room look very much like those on the top of the derelict...which leads me to believe it is in either the derelict or a ship of it's kind.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg607.imageshack.us%2Fimg607%2F1083%2Fscreenshot20120315at521.png&hash=6e493121b18786f908dd421d40679d2f56d430e9)
here's a better view of mutating guy.
I noticed that when they are in the caves and the Ampule Room they are wearing the suits from the first Empire promo images( kinda like a velvet looking material). And then when they are in the derelict and outside of it they are wearing the shiny latex type suits. So i don't think the ship is linked to the structures that house the Ampule Room. They are probably located in different places, who knows maybe even different planets
Whoa hold on, mutating guy in that picture looks rather f**king tall to me. didnt they get some tall "body actor" in? probably to play mutating guys "lanky" mutated phase.
If you straigten them out in their poses, the tall guys got to have a couple of foot on ridley. and hes on a step!
How tall is ridley scott?
I think this guy ends up pretty tall when he mutates into whatever the hell it ends up as.
EDIT: you can also see his head tattoos so i think its conclusive who it is haha.
Imagine what Ridley/Fox AREN'T showing us! Holy shit!
Quote from: bunnyavpg on Mar 15, 2012, 04:12:12 PM
And it's obvious that the Genesis Device has been used on the planet. Movie is just a Star Trek rip-off, I want my money back.
Every sci-fi rips off Star Trek though. Inception completely ripped off my favourite TNG episode for instance (Inner Light). Still, it was a great film so I'm not complaining...
Rips off Star Trek? Absolutely false.
These ideas, or, rather, the ideas presented to us through science fiction (films, tv shows, books, stories) have been around for a long long time.
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 15, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
But the windows on the top of the more detailed picture of the ampule room look very much like those on the top of the derelict...which leads me to believe it is in either the derelict or a ship of it's kind.
I think you mean the orrery/sarcophagus/chair-room!?
Yes, thats propably in the derelict-type ship.
But that's all different to the ampule-room.
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 15, 2012, 10:36:16 PM
Whoa hold on, mutating guy in that picture looks rather f**king tall to me. didnt they get some tall "body actor" in? probably to play mutating guys "lanky" mutated phase.
If you straigten them out in their poses, the tall guys got to have a couple of foot on ridley. and hes on a step!
How tall is ridley scott?
I think this guy ends up pretty tall when he mutates into whatever the hell it ends up as.
EDIT: you can also see his head tattoos so i think its conclusive who it is haha.
Or, simpler explination. He's in a harness of some kind, and thusly not on the ground, looking taller. It's a perspective thing.
Long-time lurker/First-time poster here.
I know that there is another thread that sort of debunked this rumor when people found the bust for sale online, but I am beginning to think there might be a chance that it is legit. Please bear with me on this; it's not very often that I post in threads like this one.
Here we go...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F55Jsm.jpg&hash=b619087f8c719b9f77e64fb62d0136fd14f7b485)
Note the elongated skull that appears to be lighter or shinier on the top.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZygTb.png&hash=7f2035c96f380600296d4ff480427d5e8b86ef27)
Here's the infamous mutating guy. At first I thought the idea of a crew member transforming into some sort of creature was ridiculous, but when I started to think about what an earlier poster said about the shedding of outer layer (or something of that nature) and noticed the enlarged cranium, face that has grown larger, and pattern on the forehead.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6D4Am.jpg&hash=68e22118aaec342cf83e91d92153ee62de0fabc4)
If you look the left (the front) of the creature's head, you can just about make out the shape of some sort of face. It's dark but it is there.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTyqJT.png&hash=6b4ae356b0476409b6be079669cf78707f4ffc86)
I know this one is a long shot, but if you look closely you can barely make out what appears to be a skeletal face. The top of the head looks torn, so it might not be a broken helmet like many have speculated. Maybe the top of the head was blown off with a gun and the creature is making a hasty escape while being engulfed in flames from flamethrowers.
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 15, 2012, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 15, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
But the windows on the top of the more detailed picture of the ampule room look very much like those on the top of the derelict...which leads me to believe it is in either the derelict or a ship of it's kind.
I think you mean the orrery/sarcophagus/chair-room!?
Yes, thats propably in the derelict-type ship.
But that's all different to the ampule-room.
It looks like there is quite a difference between the ampule room and the pilot's chair chamber. It is possible their may be two different alien races and there is a war or something between the two (Engineers and Jockeys?) and we have been misinterpreting the message of the movie the whole time. Maybe it was ment to be coincidence and Irony that the ship that lands in the middle of this feud of two alien races was named Prometheus... Just a thought
Anyway, my thought is this might actually really be the creature that the guy mutates into.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpujH1.png&hash=8f0eaa3cba5d43bf3b1f9194b3d6a80ea86b0f5d)
I know that the bust was sold online, but there were only a few and they were sold around the time that Prometheus probably began to wrap.
Other notes:
I also read a message from a guy (which I can't find now) who wrote that the person who posted this photo on IMDB was getting all kinds of cease and desist letters and orders to remove the image immediately.
Finally, if a human did transform into some sort of creature, what might it look like in Giger's world? This bust has aspects of a human whose skin has been removed and the xenomorph.
Well, that's my guess. It may seem ridiculous to some, but I thought I'd take a chance and put myself out here.
It would certainly explaine why the original alien has a humanoid skull. Other then host genetics I mean.
Well, if that guy does in fact mutate into that creature, it's pretty f**king terrifying. I certainly like the nod towards the original creature in its design but also the more humanoid appearance.
As much as I am dubious about the whole mutation idea, I can certainly see how it could be done well, especially if the transformation is fast and brutal. My only hope is that the film doesn't try to suggest that the Xenos or the Jockeys are in fact mutated humans. That would murder the franchise and be one of the single most cynical story arcs in the history of cinema IMO.
-Chris
What if the process by which the Xenos are born has multiple methods of transmission? Why wouldn't or couldn't transmutation of sorts be just as freaky and plausible as egg laying and chest bursting?
One last thing...
Although this creature has some attributes of a xenomorph, I think they might *almost* completely unrelated (sort of how butterflies and ants are both insects). It would be sort of dumb if this was the missing link between humans and xenomorphs, although it could probably be pulled off.
What's scarier than body horror? It can be extremely terrifying. Think about Cronenberg's The Fly - the transformation is grotesque. So, what we have here is a creature that maintains some attributes of the xenomorph (lays eggs, has an exoskeleton) but uses its hosts differently. Xenomorphs reproduce by placing an egg in an organism's throat, and the hatchling kills the host by ripping through the chest. Maybe this creature reproduces in a similar way, but it grows from the inside around its host's bones and organs and eventually rips through the skin, killing the host during the process. The idea that the creatures have similar qualities but are ultimately different animals also explains the weird facehugger things we've seen in some of the previews.
It's a clever way to tell a story similar to Alien while remaining different enough to be fresh.
Also, I do not believe that this creature is the space jockey. I think it is something else.
I'm probably getting a little bit carried away, so I think I'll quit while I'm ahead. ;)
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 02:50:53 AMSo, what we have here is a creature that maintains some attributes of the xenomorph (lays eggs, has an exoskeleton) but uses its hosts differently. Xenomorphs reproduce by placing an egg in an organism's throat, and the hatchling kills the host by ripping through the chest. Maybe this creature reproduces in a similar way, but it grows from the inside around its host's bones and organs and eventually rips through the skin, killing the host during the process.
Or using the host as a source of life, essentially wrapping itself around the pulpified host body but keeping it alive for sustenance and energy production. The monster quite literally wears you, like a suit.
Eeesh, I just gave myself the willies. Awsome! ;D
-Chris
Quote from: LarsVader on Mar 15, 2012, 11:57:47 PM
Quote from: icedog97 on Mar 15, 2012, 10:17:35 PM
But the windows on the top of the more detailed picture of the ampule room look very much like those on the top of the derelict...which leads me to believe it is in either the derelict or a ship of it's kind.
I think you mean the orrery/sarcophagus/chair-room!?
Yes, thats propably in the derelict-type ship.
But that's all different to the ampule-room.
My thought is that the orrey is on top of the ampule room...
I've been thinking for a while now that this might be an adaption of the original scripts, concepts, etc. for ALIEN.
Kind of a "what if" of how the project evolved into ALIEN... i.e. this is another path it could have taken and they are going to just use the "revist" idea as a new film that stands next to (or more literally infront) of ALIEN?
We're certainly getting lots of nods to those original ideas regardless of my wacky thoughts.
Prometheus, The Dark knight rises, The Avengers, The Hobbit...2012 REALLY IS THE END OF THE WORLD.
My theory would also explain this guy's head as he goes through he transformation...
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzJCPR.png&hash=188251b4c9d2cae08d23d5c54c367c5ccc92394f)
...and this guy who looks like he's wearing a xeno head drinking out of a bottle of water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFa64Y.png&hash=d6fa40db7931b10d6da51bfadd5a318bdc893a65)
I don't think the bust that was sold online is an *exact* replica of this creature. It could be based on an early sculpt or concept of the creature that was later adjusted.
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 16, 2012, 03:00:35 AM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 02:50:53 AMSo, what we have here is a creature that maintains some attributes of the xenomorph (lays eggs, has an exoskeleton) but uses its hosts differently. Xenomorphs reproduce by placing an egg in an organism's throat, and the hatchling kills the host by ripping through the chest. Maybe this creature reproduces in a similar way, but it grows from the inside around its host's bones and organs and eventually rips through the skin, killing the host during the process.
Or using the host as a source of life, essentially wrapping itself around the pulpified host body but keeping it alive for sustenance and energy production. The monster quite literally wears you, like a suit.
Eeesh, I just gave myself the willies. Awsome! ;D
-Chris
It's a nice idea! Though to be honest it doesn't sound too different from "the change" in the William Gibson A3 script. http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt (http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt)
I just realized something that's really terrifying: Mutant Space Zombie kinda looks like Ian McDiarmid when he "turns" in that horrible STAR WARS prequel :P :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9aPta_LajU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9aPta_LajU#ws)
"No, no, NO!!!1!"
PROMETHEUS being the ALIEN series' answer to the hideous STAR WARS prequels is my absolute greatest fear with this film. :-\
You fear too much, sistuh.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F28.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_kxdvxq8PWk1qzzzy9o1_500.jpg&hash=094381651dddce1fd2ad9bc2d2045c05a2fa0a67)
I hope you're right. I really do.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi891.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fac115%2Fminarhodes%2Fripright.png&hash=8ed2243d8d46128605a4062e262103fabb1cc8cf)
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Good lord, we really need this trailer.
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 16, 2012, 04:03:58 AMThough to be honest it doesn't sound too different from "the change" in the William Gibson A3 script. http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt (http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt)
I was thinking more of it growing around you, sort of taking you over from the outside in, rather than the inside out. Like the way some parasitic trees grow around the bark of a host tree and use it for sustenance, eventually replacing the host tree entirely. I don't mind that so much - the transformation in the A3 script is still a bit generic IMO.
-Chris
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 16, 2012, 05:37:40 AM
I don't mind that so much - the transformation in the A3 script is still a bit generic IMO.
God, that script was awful. To think there are actually people out there who believe it would have been better than the Hill/Giler/Ward ALIEN³. :-X
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 16, 2012, 05:37:40 AM
Quote from: OpenMaw on Mar 16, 2012, 04:03:58 AMThough to be honest it doesn't sound too different from "the change" in the William Gibson A3 script. http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt (http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt)
I was thinking more of it growing around you, sort of taking you over from the outside in, rather than the inside out. Like the way some parasitic trees grow around the bark of a host tree and use it for sustenance, eventually replacing the host tree entirely. I don't mind that so much - the transformation in the A3 script is still a bit generic IMO.
-Chris
Reminds me of PARADISE...
As for the bust, i seriously doubt it's anything close to what Fifield end up being.
First, because in the image where he's throwing the crew member you can make a huge bubbly head.
Second, i really doubt that Ridley would say "THE alien is no longer scary, he's in Disneyland" and end up having a quasi alien minus the penishead.
^Welcome NGR01. I always keep PARADISE in mind. I think there is more in it than we thought.
Quote from: Eva on Mar 15, 2012, 12:42:15 PM
If the engineers turn out to be our makers/Gods, were we only created to become a reduced and disposable part of their lifecycle and not a civilization in our own right? Ridley said this much - that the crew would confront a civilization demonstrating a very uncivilized behaviour.
I believe, this one can make a proper film's scheme on its right to creep you out just with this abhorrent revelation about the aim of mankind existence (in the context of Ridley's citation) alone, without showing picturesque massacre episodes. Disturbing notion would last in your mind for much longer, than remembrances of gorish scenes.
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Mar 15, 2012, 05:28:01 PM
I think the future of film making will be based on this phenomenon. Basically it will be 'movie mods' that audiences can tailor make/tweak to suit there own cinematic appetites based on a core set of elements produced by the film company.
In the epoch of overwhelming social media, it sounds like a rightful idea. With my every day coming to these boards, I'm getting more and further convinced in my suspicion, that some cycling here ideas are far much fascinating over what we get on screen these days!
Quote from: Mustangjeff on Mar 15, 2012, 06:05:19 PM
Is it a dead SJ or a discarded SJ Suit? :)
There was also a surmise the decapitated figure might be a broken statue of SJ or whoever they were. Just saying ;)
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
Anyway, my thought is this might actually really be the creature that the guy mutates into.
http://i.imgur.com/pujH1.png
Oh my! I do want to contemplate the side of this bust! Were there any photos from that angle? ;)
But even despite of this new stunning (proto-Xeno's?) exposition, I still can't reconcile myself to concept of crew member mutation... Probably, I need a time :-\
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 04:02:12 AM
...and this guy who looks like he's wearing a xeno head drinking out of a bottle of water.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFa64Y.png&hash=d6fa40db7931b10d6da51bfadd5a318bdc893a65)
where'd you get that picture from? teaser? trailer? or the teaser for the trailers? ???
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 10:38:17 AM
^Welcome NGR01. I always keep PARADISE in mind. I think there is more in it than we thought.
Thanks ;)
Likewise about KFS and PARADISE.
The main plot point missing from the two is the old weyland, who is clearly in my mind part of the Prometheus' crew (and also the main bad guy but we'll see...).
^A lot of lines are missing in both but I think that some of our theories finds their best answers in KFS and more in PARADISE. Every time I saw a news (Info, pic, trailer, leak...), I think about what's wrote in both.
Quote from: Kol on Mar 16, 2012, 11:27:55 AM
where'd you get that picture from? teaser? trailer? or the teaser for the trailers? ???
That's Kate Dickie's character (Mudow?) when she and Shaw are investigating the SJ head. It's from one of the initial 3 day teasers.
in how many hours will it be approx on the inet?
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
Anyway, my thought is this might actually really be the creature that the guy mutates into.
http://i.imgur.com/pujH1.png
I know that the bust was sold online, but there were only a few and they were sold around the time that Prometheus probably began to wrap.
Other notes:
I also read a message from a guy (which I can't find now) who wrote that the person who posted this photo on IMDB was getting all kinds of cease and desist letters and orders to remove the image immediately.
Finally, if a human did transform into some sort of creature, what might it look like in Giger's world? This bust has aspects of a human whose skin has been removed and the xenomorph.
Well, that's my guess. It may seem ridiculous to some, but I thought I'd take a chance and put myself out here.
FALSE! This is absolutely false! I've seen this bust before at the Monsterpalooza 2011 tradeshow (which was almost a year ago today) and it was merely a collector's item from one of Giger's necronomicon books that was on full display and for sale by Magee FX. I even took a picture of it. NOT a secret or from prometheus!!!.
Here is my picture: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/)
here is Magee FX website (which does not display this creature because it is copyrighted I'm guessing): mageefx.com
and here is a really blurry youtube video where you can see the bust alongside their yeti creature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc#)
Myth busted!
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
Anyway, my thought is this might actually really be the creature that the guy mutates into.
http://i.imgur.com/pujH1.png
I know that the bust was sold online, but there were only a few and they were sold around the time that Prometheus probably began to wrap.
Other notes:
I also read a message from a guy (which I can't find now) who wrote that the person who posted this photo on IMDB was getting all kinds of cease and desist letters and orders to remove the image immediately.
Finally, if a human did transform into some sort of creature, what might it look like in Giger's world? This bust has aspects of a human whose skin has been removed and the xenomorph.
Well, that's my guess. It may seem ridiculous to some, but I thought I'd take a chance and put myself out here.
Do you have a link for where that picture came from?
Quote from: NGR01 on Mar 16, 2012, 11:28:51 AM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 10:38:17 AM
^Welcome NGR01. I always keep PARADISE in mind. I think there is more in it than we thought.
Thanks ;)
Likewise about KFS and PARADISE.
The main plot point missing from the two is the old weyland, who is clearly in my mind part of the Prometheus' crew (and also the main bad guy but we'll see...).
The degree of credibility we should have in KFS was perfectly captured by a recent comment from him on Alien Prequel News:
QuoteGuy Pierce is not Weyland.
Which he posted about half an hour before the first viral appeared.
Needless to say, he hasn't been heard from since!
The Trailer should be released some time late tomorrow.
Possibly at night.
^Source ?
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
^Source ?
Er...
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42383.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42383.0)
Quote from: gooner_no1 on Mar 16, 2012, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 04:14:05 PM
^Source ?
Er...
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42383.0 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=42383.0)
Thats what I'm talking about.
My bad. ;) I haven't realised we're already friday.
what time? i am from europe, is it pacific?
Yes, It's Pacific Time. The Wondercon is at Anaheim, California. I'm probably wrong but not before at least 8pm. I'm from Paris. Where are you in Europe ?
germany =)
germany =)
we get it sunday morning...
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 16, 2012, 03:14:31 PM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
Anyway, my thought is this might actually really be the creature that the guy mutates into.
http://i.imgur.com/pujH1.png
I know that the bust was sold online, but there were only a few and they were sold around the time that Prometheus probably began to wrap.
Other notes:
I also read a message from a guy (which I can't find now) who wrote that the person who posted this photo on IMDB was getting all kinds of cease and desist letters and orders to remove the image immediately.
Finally, if a human did transform into some sort of creature, what might it look like in Giger's world? This bust has aspects of a human whose skin has been removed and the xenomorph.
Well, that's my guess. It may seem ridiculous to some, but I thought I'd take a chance and put myself out here.
Do you have a link for where that picture came from?
Please see post# 449. I debunked this dome headed sculpture. It is not from prometheus
I'm alone in believing the tag line for what could be one of the most important and epic science fiction films is god awful? It's absolutely generic and uninspiring.
Quote from: mastermoon on Mar 16, 2012, 04:12:17 PM
The Trailer should be released some time late tomorrow.
Possibly at night.
New trailers are mostly released at night.
...mostly...
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 16, 2012, 02:21:35 PM
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 02:15:14 AM
Anyway, my thought is this might actually really be the creature that the guy mutates into.
http://i.imgur.com/pujH1.png
I know that the bust was sold online, but there were only a few and they were sold around the time that Prometheus probably began to wrap.
Other notes:
I also read a message from a guy (which I can't find now) who wrote that the person who posted this photo on IMDB was getting all kinds of cease and desist letters and orders to remove the image immediately.
Finally, if a human did transform into some sort of creature, what might it look like in Giger's world? This bust has aspects of a human whose skin has been removed and the xenomorph.
Well, that's my guess. It may seem ridiculous to some, but I thought I'd take a chance and put myself out here.
FALSE! This is absolutely false! I've seen this bust before at the Monsterpalooza 2011 tradeshow (which was almost a year ago today) and it was merely a collector's item from one of Giger's necronomicon books that was on full display and for sale by Magee FX. I even took a picture of it. NOT a secret or from prometheus!!!.
Here is my picture: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/)
here is Magee FX website (which does not display this creature because it is copyrighted I'm guessing): mageefx.com
and here is a really blurry youtube video where you can see the bust alongside their yeti creature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc#)
Myth busted!
Awwww, I hope they actually do do something like this.
Before you ask, I have no idea how this ended up online.
Okay, so Resurrected2011, AKA the guy who post all the trailer music on YouTube, who is usually very reliable, just posted what he claims to be a "trailer edit" of the music from tomorrow's trailer. It's the full version of the music from the 20s preview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtLh2ZJguM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtLh2ZJguM#ws)
What do you think? The time matches up to 2:30, which is the length of the trailer.
UPDATE: Debunked by the Russian guy who cut tomorrow's trailer.
QuoteThe guy hasn't got any real reputation and uploads everything that everyone knew way before he did, and then tries to be the oracle in terms of trailer music. He clearly hasn't seen the trailer, not even remotely close; and that he uploaded the track from the preview and labeled it as the music from Trailer 2, that's his problem.
http://www.filmz.ru/blogs/mccann/1091/#commentlist (http://www.filmz.ru/blogs/mccann/1091/#commentlist)
AWESOME ! Thanks. :D Was waiting for It. Resurrected is the best.
Quote from: antovolk on Mar 16, 2012, 06:29:20 PM
Before you ask, I have no idea how this ended up online.
Okay, so Resurrected2011, AKA the guy who post all the trailer music on YouTube, who is usually very reliable, just posted what he claims to be a "trailer edit" of the music from tomorrow's trailer. It's the full version of the music from the 20s preview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtLh2ZJguM#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtLh2ZJguM#ws)
What do you think? The time matches up to 2:30, which is the length of the trailer.
Total cheese-core. If this is the type of music Ridley is using, this movie is f**kED.
that wasn't dark and moody at all.
It was a piece of crap.
EPIC! TOTALLY EPIC BRO DUDE! LISTEN TO THAT JAM MAN! EPIC! CAN YOU HEAR THOSE MIDI STRINGS GO BRO! HEAR THAT RHYTHMN? LISTEN! E-P-I-C!
Yep, very generic and quite cheesy.
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 16, 2012, 02:21:35 PM
FALSE! This is absolutely false! I've seen this bust before at the Monsterpalooza 2011 tradeshow (which was almost a year ago today) and it was merely a collector's item from one of Giger's necronomicon books that was on full display and for sale by Magee FX. I even took a picture of it. NOT a secret or from prometheus!!!.
Here is my picture: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/)
here is Magee FX website (which does not display this creature because it is copyrighted I'm guessing): mageefx.com
and here is a really blurry youtube video where you can see the bust alongside their yeti creature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc#)
Myth busted!
I read through the entire thread before I posted anything.
I knew that this bust was available online and based on Giger's prior artwork before I posted anything. With all due respect, nothing you mentioned precludes the fact that this could at least resemble the creature from Prometheus. As a matter of fact, the fact that Magee FX has already worked with Fox on the Alien and Predator films actually supports the fact that they could be involved in the creature effects from Prometheus.
Necronomicon.
http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx (http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx)
UPDATE: the Russian guy who cut the actual trailer out tomorrow debunked it. It's just music from the preview with some added Alien SFX by the guy who uploaded it.
QuoteThe guy hasn't got any real reputation and uploads everything that everyone knew way before he did, and then tries to be the oracle in terms of trailer music. He clearly hasn't seen the trailer, not even remotely close; and that he uploaded the track from the preview and labeled it as the music from Trailer 2, that's his problem.
http://www.filmz.ru/blogs/mccann/1091/#commentlist (http://www.filmz.ru/blogs/mccann/1091/#commentlist)
Phew. I was kinda hoping this isn't the music for the trailer anyway.
Quote from: tmjhur on Mar 16, 2012, 06:48:53 PM
Total cheese-core. If this is the type of music Ridley is using, this movie is f**kED.
Sounds sort of
Avatar-ish... But why do you think the same score will be used in the actuall film? I hope it was composed for the trailer solely...
Quote from: mastermoon on Mar 16, 2012, 04:12:17 PM
The Trailer should be released some time late tomorrow.
Possibly at night.
QuoteMake sure to mark your calendars and join us next Saturday, March 17th at 4 p.m. PST/ 7 p.m. EST!
Sourse: http://www.amctheatres.com/movie-news/2012/03/exclusive-amc-theatres-20th-century-fox-livestream-present-live-q-a-with-director-ridley-scott-and-premiere-of-new-prometheus-trailer (http://www.amctheatres.com/movie-news/2012/03/exclusive-amc-theatres-20th-century-fox-livestream-present-live-q-a-with-director-ridley-scott-and-premiere-of-new-prometheus-trailer)
So Europe is going to see it rather at Sunday's night...
Sunday morning. They will be seeing it 00:00 Sunday morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF_CQGHqzts# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF_CQGHqzts#)
Well, 7 p.m. EST is 11 pm GMT, so UK will be seeing it live even at Saturday night.
And for me it's 1 am Sunday night.
PS. Hope my Maths serves me right ;D
A trusted friend on another forum has seen the trailer,he says there are no major spoilers in the new one,i don't want to ask more as i want to see it my self
http://www.wetacollectors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33186&page=7 (http://www.wetacollectors.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33186&page=7)
I really hope so but what is maybe not spoiler for the general audience can be massive spoiler for us.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 08:10:45 PM
What is maybe not spoiler for the general audience can be massive spoiler for us.
Thats a very good point,i hadn't thought about that :laugh:
The good things about this Trailer is that is going to bury a lot of the theories, creates new ones and maybe confirmed some.
GAH. So excited for tomorrow! I get to see the trailer unveiled LIVE by Ridley Scott, twice.
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I sure hope the AMC Q&A is recorded and kept online for posterity.
I hope it creates more questions than answers,i don't want answers until i'm sitting in the Cinema.
I just know the 2 weeks leading up to release its going to be really hard to avoid spoilers,i'm glad i'm in the UK,only a few other places get it a day or so before us
Quote from: Dorian Gray on Mar 16, 2012, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: Jenga on Mar 16, 2012, 02:21:35 PM
FALSE! This is absolutely false! I've seen this bust before at the Monsterpalooza 2011 tradeshow (which was almost a year ago today) and it was merely a collector's item from one of Giger's necronomicon books that was on full display and for sale by Magee FX. I even took a picture of it. NOT a secret or from prometheus!!!.
Here is my picture: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/ (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/img0101smallu.jpg/)
here is Magee FX website (which does not display this creature because it is copyrighted I'm guessing): mageefx.com
and here is a really blurry youtube video where you can see the bust alongside their yeti creature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H278jfZaACc#)
Myth busted!
I read through the entire thread before I posted anything.
I knew that this bust was available online and based on Giger's prior artwork before I posted anything. With all due respect, nothing you mentioned precludes the fact that this could at least resemble the creature from Prometheus. As a matter of fact, the fact that Magee FX has already worked with Fox on the Alien and Predator films actually supports the fact that they could be involved in the creature effects from Prometheus.
Dorian Grey:
Certainly it could resemble a creature in prometheus due to it being a giger or giger-themed design. I find it to be quite nice in many ways. That said, I firmly believe there is absolutely no way an actual design from the film has been kicking around at places like monsterpalooza and for sale online and not shut down completely. They have been so secure on stuff like this. Also, the fact that Magee FX has worked with ADI on the first AVP does not make it any more likely that he worked with Ridley's quite different and unreleated creature effects people in London. The two groups are completely seperate. Fox does not enter into it beyond hiring the special effects company for the film. I'm sure scott free are the ones operating in a day to day staffing capacity. It is grasping at straws. I would bet that Magee would also be the first one to include prometheus on his resume had he worked on it.
Dorian, You can clearly see "Necronomicon" written at the bottom of the bust.
And It's avalaible here:
http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx (http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 09:19:36 PM
Dorian, You can clearly see "Necronomicon" written at the bottom of the bust.
And It's avalaible here:
http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx (http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx)
Needs more penis.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-GBESkgxWPqs%2FT0OuOWncLaI%2FAAAAAAAAAlo%2FIKmjTSmxlWU%2Fs1600%2FGiger-Necronom_II.jpg&hash=1492a9ce2117cdf01114a0c14a0c5154f36182cc)
The bust sucks but the Artwork is impressive.
Quote from: Cvalda on Mar 16, 2012, 09:23:26 PM
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 09:19:36 PM
Dorian, You can clearly see "Necronomicon" written at the bottom of the bust.
And It's avalaible here:
http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx (http://www.thehorrordome.com/necronomicon-alien-head.aspx)
Needs more penis.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-GBESkgxWPqs%2FT0OuOWncLaI%2FAAAAAAAAAlo%2FIKmjTSmxlWU%2Fs1600%2FGiger-Necronom_II.jpg&hash=1492a9ce2117cdf01114a0c14a0c5154f36182cc)
Is THAT what that is...? :o
Two more pics from the bust.
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2F35ncxsh.jpg&hash=a0c2db1918f6e249fb90310327201a63201d65b4)
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2Fqs5rtk.jpg&hash=f1359f2794dc6d57b9f49a0b1cd93726431e47e3)
Oh! Thanks, EEV-2501 for new photos!
I like its shiny dome ... and teeth. Can't see why you reckon it sucks :-\
Quote from: Glaive on Mar 16, 2012, 09:31:06 PM
Is THAT what that is...? :o
Well, it's what it
wants to be.
Following the logic, the next comment shall be on its nostrils ;D
Look at this nostrils ? ;D
No, seriously. The idea is insteresting, artwork is awesome but the bust is ugly. Glad It's not from the movie.
Didnt we see a prop head picture a while back anyway, and fox made the forum pull the pics down?
it looked like a typical SJ head if i remember correctly.
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 16, 2012, 10:30:54 PM
Look at this nostrils ? ;D
No, seriously. The idea is insteresting, artwork is awesome but the bust is ugly. Glad It's not from the movie.
I'd like to see any of that kind design in the film, bar the creature appeared from mutation of human. :-X
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 16, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
Didnt we see a prop head picture a while back anyway, and fox made the forum pull the pics down?
it looked like a typical SJ head if i remember correctly.
I guees, the picture has been revealed here, though it's now gone... You can find the one in the signature of
St_Eddie : http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15893 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15893)
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 16, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
Didnt we see a prop head picture a while back anyway, and fox made the forum pull the pics down?
it looked like a typical SJ head if i remember correctly.
Here be it, with some colour correction...
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee395%2FChrisPachi%2FTheWHAT.jpg&hash=64c386124250f54b828afdc6c31d0e711e2862da)
-Chris
Ahh cheers, knew i had seen something somewhere.
the nore i think about the more i'm convinced it is just a suit, the truck is just a hose that connects to another part of the suit supplying air etc.
its just a biomechanical space suit for a big blue man. I just hope its better in execution than description.
BTW chrispatchi, in my peripheral vision, i always think your current avatar is crahs bandicoot. then look at it directly and see its completely not... haha weird.
DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou, yeah! ;D
-Chris
We know it's you, Chris. You don't need to write '-Chris' after every message.
-Sweeper
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 17, 2012, 12:25:22 AM
We know it's you, Chris. You don't need to write '-Chris' after every message.
-Sweeper
He's just being formal. Like wearing a suit in every post.
-Bat Chain
personally, i think that's a job for a signature.
-thunderclits
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 17, 2012, 12:25:22 AM
We know it's you, Chris. You don't need to write '-Chris' after every message.
-Sweeper
Awright awright. It's a bad habit. I'll go back to smoking and picking my nose. ;)
-Chr... ah f**k.
I'm having Prometheus Trailer fever....I just keep trolling these boards, hoping for a detailed description or an incredible still. Help. Is there a cure for this Doc? ;)
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 17, 2012, 12:47:09 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 17, 2012, 12:25:22 AM
We know it's you, Chris. You don't need to write '-Chris' after every message.
-Sweeper
Awright awright. It's a bad habit. I'll go back to smoking and picking my nose. ;)
-Chr... ah f**k.
Try combining the two....
Dear god we need this trailer ASAP.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 17, 2012, 12:42:22 AM
personally, i think that's a job for a signature.
-thunderclits
Thunder! Thunder! Thunder! Hoooooooo!
Thunderdick for me please...ride em' stallion!
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Bugger.
del
Quote from: Bat Chain Puller on Mar 17, 2012, 12:27:47 AM
Quote from: Space Sweeper on Mar 17, 2012, 12:25:22 AM
We know it's you, Chris. You don't need to write '-Chris' after every message.
-Sweeper
He's just being formal. Like wearing a suit in every post.
-Bat Chain
There is such a thing as over dressing.
- Michael Caine
BRAND NEW IMAX TRAILER FOLLOW THIS LINK!!!
http://mobile3.influxis.com:1935/rqfxnf41acga4554/_definst_/smil:Prometheus_Movie_1080p_iphone.smil/playlist.m3u8 (http://mobile3.influxis.com:1935/rqfxnf41acga4554/_definst_/smil:Prometheus_Movie_1080p_iphone.smil/playlist.m3u8)
i don't trust this link
bitches, check youtube out, there's a 1 minute trailer of prommy with new scenes and stuff
Spoiler
and yes, the "space jockey head" is in there, there is shown the actual spacejockey and yoü see the skin slowly reversing and showing the creatue beneath it (yoü can only see a few seconds and it's skin) there is some snail like creatue in other scenes, catches within a room.
New trailer!
http://www.extrahype.com/prometheus-gets-new-trailer (http://www.extrahype.com/prometheus-gets-new-trailer)
space jockey has so small hands hmmm
Holy crap!!! :D There is a jockey and a serpent in there!
this isn't the whole thing, or? because it should be 2:33 and not 1:10 min or did they troll us with the length?
Regardless of the length this film looks insane!
Hope to see a longer trailer later
i am a bit disappointed by the space jockey, the bigger head and the little arms make him appear more cartoon-ish then the original. and i have a feeling that this movie contains all the best visual/shocking scenes of the movie, i hate that when there is no surprise or shit. knowing half of it already.
i mean showing the prometheus crashing into the derelict is, i think, one of the most important scenes of the film, lore-wise and visual, why spoil it?
The trailer has all but the feeling of Alien movie :D I HOPE it will not be action dubstep shit like in the trailer. Also the actors look more like some game characters than Nostromo crew.
Since I startted stalking the internets for alien prequel 4 years ago, I was hoping for much darker shit than this, I was hoping for lynch-giger crossover. This trailer looks honestly like 90% of the action movie trailers around.
But I still hope!
The montage and the music makes it definitely"Alien-ish".
I'm sure I've heard some cues from Goldsmith score in It. It's great. Better than the epic music of the preview.
Isn't the new trailer over 2 minutes in length?
Quote from: ThisBethesdaSea on Mar 17, 2012, 12:36:20 PM
Isn't the new trailer over 2 minutes in length?
Reportedly. I think this latest one is an IMAX teaser.
Confirmation: IMAX Teaser Of the Trailer. Stay tuned for the real deal.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88133 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88133)
Quote from: EEV-2501 on Mar 17, 2012, 01:08:31 PM
Confirmation: IMAX Teaser Of the Trailer. Stay tuned for the real deal.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88133 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=88133)
Thanks EEV.
what the hell is this:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi43.tinypic.com%2F2eefrsn.jpg&hash=13ce4cf6e0c26451d76acb055d3d674151d5fc4e)
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and here is our space jockey:
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Quote from: aliennaire on Mar 16, 2012, 10:56:30 PM
Quote from: marsekay on Mar 16, 2012, 10:34:54 PM
Didnt we see a prop head picture a while back anyway, and fox made the forum pull the pics down?
it looked like a typical SJ head if i remember correctly.
I guees, the picture has been revealed here, though it's now gone... You can find the one in the signature of St_Eddie : http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15893 (http://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=15893)
Whilst my signature is taken from that prop photo, it's a highly modified version that I made in Photoshop...
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Mar 16, 2012, 11:09:14 PM
Here be it, with some colour correction...
Spoiler
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1225.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee395%2FChrisPachi%2FTheWHAT.jpg&hash=64c386124250f54b828afdc6c31d0e711e2862da)
-Chris
... Note that I created a new angle (with the second eye visable), changed the shape of the back of the head, altered the mouth and made various other tweaks. Also, I coloured and shaded it myself.
Sorry but I felt the need to point that out because I don't want people to think I just lazily cut and pasted the prop into my signature.
Quote from: chupacabras acheronsis on Mar 17, 2012, 02:58:35 PM
and here is our space jockey:
(https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.tinypic.com%2Fj0zo9f.jpg&hash=98ff427491108cdb2ac3337e0eebead7d87cc9f2)
I think the reason why the jockey is bit small in this scene is because its not a Jockey...
One of my theories is that Ridley is going to pay some homage to James Cameron's Aliens by putting our female hero in the suit. Im sure fox was pushing the idea from the very beginning. Rapace may even infact be the Jockey from Alien..