All the Misconceptions of Prometheus Explained

Started by The_Foxcatcher, Oct 04, 2024, 09:49:32 AM

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The_Foxcatcher

Why did they have some incompetent scientists, especially Fifield & Milburn?

Ans: It was Vickers who recruited the team. "For those of you I hired personally... nice to see you again". And its clear that Vickers was not in favor of her Dad's agenda. So obviously, she wouldn't recruit whole-heartedly and would not want sharp minds who can discover any leads that takes to what Weyland was looking for.

Why did Fifield & Milburn decide to go back to the Ship?

Ans:  When Milburn and Fifield first encounter the alien corpse, their reaction of fear and retreat can be understood as a natural response to an unknown, potentially dangerous environment. The presence of a massive, ancient alien corpse adds to the unsettling atmosphere, amplifying their fear. In that moment, their emotional state is governed by shock—it's an unanticipated discovery in a stressful situation, which heightens their instinct to escape rather than engage. 

Why did Milburn tame the Alien Snake, given that hours before, he was scared of an Alien corpse?

Ans: After their initial flight response, Milburn and Fifield have had time to recalibrate their emotions. By the time they reached the black goo room, Milburn may have felt more in control of the situation, leading to a psychological overcompensation. Having processed the initial fear, he may want to reassert his expertise as a biologist by engaging with the hammerpede.

But why did they still tame an Alien snake?

Ans: They? Fifield didn't tame the snake. He was scared and freaked out. He stood away from the Hammerpede.

Biologists, especially those specializing in exotic species, often interact with dangerous organisms, driven by curiosity. Milburn, as a biologist, likely has a background in studying life forms and may have experience handling Earth-based dangerous creatures (like snakes)

Milburn is wearing a spacesuit with a helmet on, which also gave him a sense of security, believing that the suit protects him from potential harm. His gear, designed to protect him from the environment, could make him feel invulnerable, leading him to engage with the creature.

He could have judged the Hammerpede to have similar strength of that of Earth Snakes of that size. And the lack of Fangs also could give a notion of safety. Also, he could not have imagined an organism with concentrated acidic blood.

Why did Milburn & Fifiled get lost, despite Fifiled being a Geologist and having the tracks which the Pups mapped?

Ans: They activated the Pups after entering much inside the Pyramid. The Pups then hovered further inside and DID NOT MAP THE EXIT ROUTES. On their return, Fifield & Milburn must have reached the point where they had activated the Pups, but then took a wrong turn and got lost. Not having the exit routes & yet getting lost despite being close to the exit - symbolizes the human's dependency on technology like how we don't remember phone numbers after we started having mobile phones.

What was the Point of Electric Stimulation given to the Engineer's Head?

Ans: Neuromuscular stimulation and Reanimation experiments, is well grounded in real-world scientific concepts. Tricking it into thinking it's alive" refers to their attempt to temporarily reactivate certain biological responses - they're essentially trying to determine how much the tissue has degraded and whether any neural or muscular function remains.

One of the key motivations behind the experiment is to learn more about the Engineer's biology providing them with insights into the Engineer's anatomy, nervous system, and tissue viability, which could be critical to understanding their creators' physiology. By performing this test, they can understand whether the tissue has decayed beyond usefulness or if it can still provide valuable information about the Engineers. This could potentially lead to further experiments, such as genetic testing or tissue analysis, helping them understand the Engineer's lifespan, strength, and vulnerability & Establishing a Link to Human Biology.

Why is the Black Goo so inconsistent and give different effects to different people?

Ans:  The Black Goo is very much consistent as a Mutant which provides Predatory attributes & transformation to the Infected. Fifield was mutated into a Zombified version. His exposure to the Black goo was more than Holloway and hence Holloway's transformation was slow. Before Holloway could fully turn into similar Zombified version, he surrendered to Vickers and got burned down. Shaw, by the way didn't come in direct contact with the Black Goo - so the question of her turning into a Zombie does not arise. Her ovum got in contact with Holloway's Mutated Sperm (not the Black Goo) and which fertilized her Egg. And we all know that the Alien Egg ---> Gives birth to a Facehugger. And hence the Trilobite Facehugger which Facehugged the Engineer resulting into a Deacon Chestbuster, completing the overall Alien Lifecycle.

Why did Shaw & Vickers run in straight line?

Ans: At one point ---> They took a sharp left turn. There are several videos on net showing that or one can watch the movie for themselves again. But to their bad luck, the ship too turned towards their direction because of the uneven terrain. Rest of the time, the falling debris could not let them turn either side.

How could David & Shaw survive without food in their journey while on Engineer's spaceships?

Ans: The movie cannot be 8 hour long to show each and every move of the characters. It's obvious that before boarding the Engineer's spaceship, they would have grabbed the food & supplies from the Lifeboat.

 

SiL

Actual scientists responded to Prometheus.

The biologist said they would absolutely not do what Milburne did, given that the Hammerpede was showing very obvious signs of aggression.

QuoteThis phallus soon spreads open and seems to display a neck frill. As a biologist, what would that mean to you?

It can be defensive or it can attract mates. Usually it's a threat display. It makes the animal look bigger and more ferocious

SM

There is no legitimate explanation for Fifield and Milburn getting lost.

The_Foxcatcher

Quote from: SM on Oct 04, 2024, 12:51:17 PMThere is no legitimate explanation for Fifield and Milburn getting lost.

The Pups didn't map the exit routes. Fact. The Pyramid was like a Maze. Fact. Milburn & Fifield could very well have gotten Lost. Fact.

 

SiL

Fifield activates his "pups" immediately after they enter the structure and come to the first corridor. Fact. It's a straight line from where he activates them to outside. Fact.

The_Foxcatcher

Quote from: SiL on Oct 04, 2024, 01:03:30 PMFifield activates his "pups" immediately after they enter the structure and come to the first corridor. Fact. It's a straight line from where he activates them to outside. Fact.

Watch the movie again. They passed one corridor. And you couldn't see the entrance hole in that area through which the crews had to crawl through.

BlueMarsalis79

One of my main points of contention with the film being stuff like that being written to be so silly. And then edited to be even dumber as that Agent 9 Special Edition proves. (Sadly undermined by bizarre audio choices.)

Oasis Nadrama

I don't think all of these answers are adequate, but some of them ARE. Thank you, particularly, for answering adequately the nonsensical complain that the black liquid supposedly has random effects.

I also never noticed that Shaw and Vickers do NOT run in a straight line. Thank you for that!

About other flaws, weaknesses and plotholes, I thought back then, and I still think twelve years later, that people use Prometheus as a scapegoat. They gratuitously dogpile the movie for whatever reasons (simple snowball effect of the trend to attack it? Hatred of its audacity? Frustration at the lack of literal, classic Aliens?).
The movie doesn't deserve to be treated like this, it is not more absurd than other Hollywood blockbusters, or other episodes in the franchise for that matter.

We don't see people talking ad nauseam about how stupid Kane was to look into the egg, how idiotic Ripley, Parker and Brett were to split when the chestburster was let loose in the Nostromo, how foolish Parker was to try to take the alien hand-to-hand.

SiL

Quote from: The_Foxcatcher on Oct 04, 2024, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 04, 2024, 01:03:30 PMFifield activates his "pups" immediately after they enter the structure and come to the first corridor. Fact. It's a straight line from where he activates them to outside. Fact.

Watch the movie again. They passed one corridor. And you couldn't see the entrance hole in that area through which the crews had to crawl through.
I watched before commenting. They enter the structure and come to a corridor. The film doesn't show they go through any maze; they walk from the outside in, come to the first corridor, and Holloway asks Fifield to start mapping

The_Foxcatcher

The_Foxcatcher

#9
Quote from: SiL on Oct 04, 2024, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: The_Foxcatcher on Oct 04, 2024, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 04, 2024, 01:03:30 PMFifield activates his "pups" immediately after they enter the structure and come to the first corridor. Fact. It's a straight line from where he activates them to outside. Fact.

Watch the movie again. They passed one corridor. And you couldn't see the entrance hole in that area through which the crews had to crawl through.
I watched before commenting. They enter the structure and come to a corridor. The film doesn't show they go through any maze; they walk from the outside in, come to the first corridor, and Holloway asks Fifield to start mapping

They do cross the first Corridor. Scott wanted to maintain pace. The alley was too dark. There may be other corridors, since it was an alley. On their return, they would have entered another corridor and got lost.






Quote from: Oasis Nadrama on Oct 04, 2024, 01:16:19 PMI don't think all of these answers are adequate, but some of them ARE. Thank you, particularly, for answering adequately the nonsensical complain that the black liquid supposedly has random effects.

I also never noticed that Shaw and Vickers do NOT run in a straight line. Thank you for that!

About other flaws, weaknesses and plotholes, I thought back then, and I still think twelve years later, that people use Prometheus as a scapegoat. They gratuitously dogpile the movie for whatever reasons (simple snowball effect of the trend to attack it? Hatred of its audacity? Frustration at the lack of literal, classic Aliens?).
The movie doesn't deserve to be treated like this, it is not more absurd than other Hollywood blockbusters, or other episodes in the franchise for that matter.

We don't see people talking ad nauseam about how stupid Kane was to look into the egg, how idiotic Ripley, Parker and Brett were to split when the chestburster was let loose in the Nostromo, how foolish Parker was to try to take the alien hand-to-hand.

Greatly agree. Glad to know some explanations suited your doubts. Thanks!




Quote from: SiL on Oct 04, 2024, 01:19:00 PM
Quote from: The_Foxcatcher on Oct 04, 2024, 01:07:56 PM
Quote from: SiL on Oct 04, 2024, 01:03:30 PMFifield activates his "pups" immediately after they enter the structure and come to the first corridor. Fact. It's a straight line from where he activates them to outside. Fact.

Watch the movie again. They passed one corridor. And you couldn't see the entrance hole in that area through which the crews had to crawl through.
I watched before commenting. They enter the structure and come to a corridor. The film doesn't show they go through any maze; they walk from the outside in, come to the first corridor, and Holloway asks Fifield to start mapping


..And...

Had they activated the pups right at the entrance, then that would have been a flaw!!

It's interesting to know how the rest of the crew who followed later, didn't get lost. They had David with them! After approaching the point where the Pups were activated, David would have known every step & turn to the accuracy of millimetres and guided the crews to the point of Exit. The movie greatly kept things well-thought with such attention to detail and hence a great film to ponder upon.

The storm weather had already darkened the sky and henceforth, whatever dim sunlight passing through that shallow entrance even wouldn't have had illuminated the area for Fifield & Milburn to identify which corridor they should enter.


SiL

They walk down an alley from the outside to the inside. Once they get to the first corridor they activate the pups. We don't see a maze on the way in.

SM

Quote from: The_Foxcatcher on Oct 04, 2024, 01:03:19 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 04, 2024, 12:51:17 PMThere is no legitimate explanation for Fifield and Milburn getting lost.

The Pups didn't map the exit routes. Fact. The Pyramid was like a Maze. Fact. Milburn & Fifield could very well have gotten Lost. Fact.

 

lol. "If there's anything worth looking at, these pups will find it."

Except the point where they where they were activated at the entrance apparently.

There's a gigantic 3D map that Janek could have used to direct them. Then he dumbly asks where they are when Shaw gets back. Dude - your map is right there.

kwisatz

So many facts but no consensus  :o

SiL

I think we're still deliberating some of those "facts".

SM

SM

#14
Fact.

You can see the entrance they came in through when Holloway asks Fifield to start mapping.

Also, the hammerpede thing.  Millburn ran away from a dead alien lifeform, but wanted to cuddle a live one.  The inconsistency and lack of explanation of the inconsistency is the problem.

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