Aliens: What if…

Started by Sabres21768, Dec 21, 2023, 03:08:24 AM

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SM

SM

#225
Everyone at the inquiry was told there was a Derelict spacecraft on LV-426 not too far from a colony that got blown up a few weeks later. They probably even have the same co-ordinates that Burke did. Colonial Administration would be all over that shit.

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#226
Quote from: Slutty Badger on Sep 12, 2024, 02:01:07 PM
Quote from: D8ton_Cracka on Sep 12, 2024, 01:40:12 PMWhat if the Derelict could actually survive the explosion? After all it was made with Alien technology. Maybe the eggs on board would be shielded?

More recent sources have reported it destroyed.
Re-quoting this since you didn't elaborate.

XenoVC

XenoVC

#227
For $17 tpb on Amazon and with it releasing next week, I'm actually considering this one.

Perfect-Organism

Perfect-Organism

#228
The destruction of the derelict was never outright confirmed in the films.  It is implied by resurrection since they had to clone Ripley to get some xenos, which means the derelict was not available.

An easy solution to bringing back the derelict is to retcon resurrection.  Heck, pull the plug in Alien 3 while you're at it.

SM

SM

#229
To what end?

Perfect-Organism

Perfect-Organism

#230
To make a proper sequel to Aliens.

SM

SM

#231
It already has one.

Xenomrph


Oasis Nadrama

Oasis Nadrama

#233
To go back to the Burke comic book, I pounced on it it this Summer and found it a very entertaining read.

The general lore is done relatively seriously, and the gallows humour is peak!





An interesting thing to note is that the comic book both updates Burke's age to match Reiser's current appearance (there is a timeskip) and does not position itself as an uchronic timeline.

"What if?" are generally works which build from a premise which did not happen in the canon timeline, a premise contradicting official events. "What if Professor Xavier was a bad guy and had destroyed the world?", "What if Proteus had been set free to reign on his reality?", or in the case of Alien, "What if Newt had survived the Fiorina-161 crash?" for example.

But "What if Carter Burke had lived?" does not diverge in any way and does not contradict anything. In the theatrical AND extended cuts of AlienS, the scene implying Burke is impregnated does not happen. Which leaves the comic book free to do whatever it wants to do with the character. And not only does it free him from the hive, it actually uses a canonical event, Vasquez and Gorman's chant du cygne, to bring about Burke's liberation.





Burke is then explicitly shown NOT contradicting the events of the AlienS finale... and even pulls of a "Aliens: Colonial Marines" kind of soft retcon, bringing about the beginning of Alien 3!







It's a smart move on Paul Reiser's part. The story works both as a funny little hypothetical scenario and as a potential tie-in should Hollywood choose to bring the character back in a future movie.

Perfect-Organism

Perfect-Organism

#234
Quote from: SM on Oct 04, 2024, 02:35:56 AMIt already has one.

Then why isn't there any interest among movie makers in continuing from there?

Oasis Nadrama

Oasis Nadrama

#235
Quote from: Perfect-Organism on Oct 06, 2024, 02:39:10 PM
Quote from: SM on Oct 04, 2024, 02:35:56 AMIt already has one.

Then why isn't there any interest among movie makers in continuing from there?

There was. Alien 3 has a sequel too!

SM

SM

#236
QuoteBurke is then explicitly shown NOT contradicting the events of the AlienS finale... and even pulls of a "Aliens: Colonial Marines" kind of soft retcon, bringing about the beginning of Alien 3!

And yet somehow f**ks both of these things up royally.

Oasis Nadrama

Oasis Nadrama

#237
Quote from: SM on Oct 06, 2024, 08:54:19 PM
QuoteBurke is then explicitly shown NOT contradicting the events of the AlienS finale... and even pulls of a "Aliens: Colonial Marines" kind of soft retcon, bringing about the beginning of Alien 3!

And yet somehow f**ks both of these things up royally.

You're a little nitpicking. Every work of art has its flaws. Alien, AlienS, Alien 3 were all great movies yet they all already contain plotholes and absurdities.

Your work and perspective are great, but would you consider more flexibility when considering new works in this franchise?

This Burke comic book is a sweet little comedy moment, it certainly does not need to be stoned to death like AVP: Alien vs. Predator Requiem and the likes of it.

SM

SM

#238
Pointing out that Burke very much does contradict events in the Aliens finale, and then doesn't know what it's doing in relation to Alien 3 isn't nitpicking.  It's badly written in terms of the continuity jumping off point and in terms of Burke's character.  A few cool comedic bits unfortunately can't save it.

Not sure what AvPR has to do with anything.

BISHOP 93

BISHOP 93

#239
I'm glad this is only a "what if". I found pretty much every aspect of it disappointing. The first couple of issues did feel very "The office in space" especially when Burkes looking for a victim a man who now suddenly has a conscience when he had no issues of having the deaths of 157 colonists( 60 maybe 70 families) and attempting to kill Newt and Ripley simply for " a goddamn percentage". I found some of the humour funny especially the atheist praying line. But I hated the art work most of all. Bland and inconsistent. Sometimes Burke looked like Burke then others he looked nothing like him. In one still he looked more like Bill Murray and the
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Also like others have pointed out I didnt like how Burke escapes the hive and how quickly he was caccooned. Also "There's a face hugger loose, great let's have a flirty chat". This was a very meh comic for me

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