https://www.vulture.com/amp/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html
It's okay.
As long as Wolverine can wear yellow spandex and stand next to Captain America on-screen, nothing else in the world matters.
>:(
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 25, 2019, 09:54:56 PM
https://www.vulture.com/amp/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html
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Embrace the power of Disney, or embrace your own destruction!
I'm still amazed that this merger didn't violate antitrust laws. Then again corporations are making out like bandits in the trump era. Woohoo capitalism!
True enough. It is ridiculous.
Sucks to hear about the Alien being cancelled. I wonder if they're only going to go through bigger chain distribution.
Glad I saw it here in the cinema.
https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1189199368798265345?s=19
What the hell Disney? Why?
By reducing diversity, Disney get to focus audience attention on current releases, thereby maximising profits for those releases.
-Windebieste.
Seems so stupid. I can't imagine old film screenings take much business from new ones.
I'm curious how this will affect Rocky Horror screenings. People will really be up in arms if those stop. Hopefully Disney's offices get mobbed by men in drag.
Bloody hell
Disney's current output isn't even good, so it's all the more unbearable.
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Quote from: Xiggz456 on Oct 26, 2019, 08:01:28 PM
I'm still amazed that this merger didn't violate antitrust laws. Then again corporations are making out like bandits in the trump era. Woohoo capitalism!
not a recent development.
Anyways, my son was asking abiut the anniveraries of Aliens and Alien 3 after we left the screenin of Alien. I really hope something works out amd we get to catch more.
All the more reason to treasure my discs. F**K DISNEY.
Thank goodness for personal projector and of course, my Oculus Rift. I can get the theater experience whenever I want. But still, it's a real dick move.
For a true theater experience, here's some things that you need. 7 bucks for water, 6 folks recording, 5 ringers still on, 4 noisy kids, 3 busted pixels, 2 lazy ushers, and the volume to be too d@mn high.
Disney...
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Let me translate this development for those a little ??? on it.
In the 80s and 90s Disney used to, sporadically, release home VHS tapes of "Disney Classics" for a limited time. These were big deals as they were released unannounced and subsequently withdrawn to stoke demand. Resale value on rare VHS tapes USED to be profitable for video retailers and studios. Now, in 2019, Disney has made its tradtional animation movies open resource, for a streamng fee.
So Disney has tried applying the above model in 2019, a time of internet file sharing, secondhand blu-rays aplenty and ALIEN being found in a charity shop for £0.50p if you look- to the live action film ALIEN. Only this time its moreso Disney is saying a classic installment of ALIEN being widely available might invoke a "deductive" opinion of future projects.
I doubt any more cheap sequels or TV streaming projects of the "alien brand" will affect people's knowledge of how to spot a stinker. You don't need comparison's to know if a classic has touched you or you are watching formulaic crap.
All this will do is harm arthouse cinema screenings of ALIEN.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 31, 2019, 03:08:02 PM
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Actually funny that. When Ridley Scott originally approached Disney with the script for Legend back in the day, they told him to f*ck off. Disney now owns the European cut (with Goldsmith's soundtrack) of Legend.
Same story with Lucas and Star Wars.
They are doing this so they can see which movies they can relaunch later on. They have to sanatize everything to make max profit. This is nothing, just wait till the next alien film where the lead is a teenaged girl that by the end of the movie is beating an Alien Queen by herself.
Just as long as they don't pull that vault crap where the disc based media vanishes for 5 years at a time.
I don't want to see Alien disappear until 2025 and then get a 2 month "diamond edition" release before going under until the 30's roll around.
You can just stream the movies from Disney+ with your superfast internet connection Huggs.
That does it. I'm buying a backup of the anthology next year.
Like we needed any more reasons to pirate shit.
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Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 01, 2019, 10:21:32 AM
All the more reason to treasure my discs. F**K DISNEY.
True, f**k Disney with their pea brain, low story IQ, washed out, played out, dumbass movies for the dumb masses. I excpect every Alien movie going forward to have at best an AVP2 storyline and script. I hope I'm wrong lol.
Quote from: Nostromo on Nov 02, 2019, 11:52:49 AM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 01, 2019, 10:21:32 AM
All the more reason to treasure my discs. F**K DISNEY.
True, f**k Disney with their pea brain, low story IQ, washed out, played out, dumbass movies for the dumb masses. I excpect every Alien movie going forward to have at best an AVP2 storyline and script. I hope I'm wrong lol.
I never really got this mentality.
Like yeah there's plenty of reasons to dislike the House of Mouse (such as "vaulting" movies), but that doesn't mean I need to hate every movie they release. I've had an extremely good time with the MCU and a lot of their other stuff, and frankly I'm excited to see what they do with A/P/AvP. If we get a coherent string of movies that explore different ideas while still tying together like the MCU then I'll be overjoyed. If we don't.... then we're no worse off than before, really.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 02, 2019, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Nov 02, 2019, 11:52:49 AM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 01, 2019, 10:21:32 AM
All the more reason to treasure my discs. F**K DISNEY.
True, f**k Disney with their pea brain, low story IQ, washed out, played out, dumbass movies for the dumb masses. I excpect every Alien movie going forward to have at best an AVP2 storyline and script. I hope I'm wrong lol.
I never really got this mentality.
Like yeah there's plenty of reasons to dislike the House of Mouse (such as "vaulting" movies), but that doesn't mean I need to hate every movie they release. I've had an extremely good time with the MCU and a lot of their other stuff, and frankly I'm excited to see what they do with A/P/AvP. If we get a coherent string of movies that explore different ideas while still tying together like the MCU then I'll be overjoyed. If we don't.... then we're no worse off than before, really.
The only live action movie from DISNEY worth anything is
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954). Don't give a sh*t about their STAR WARS output or ruinous intent for the ALIEN franchise.
Apart from
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the STAR WARS trilogy (original theatrical versions) is all I want from DISNEY.
...But the important thing is, the MCU is complete!
Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 02, 2019, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 02, 2019, 02:26:02 PM
Quote from: Nostromo on Nov 02, 2019, 11:52:49 AM
Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 01, 2019, 10:21:32 AM
All the more reason to treasure my discs. F**K DISNEY.
True, f**k Disney with their pea brain, low story IQ, washed out, played out, dumbass movies for the dumb masses. I excpect every Alien movie going forward to have at best an AVP2 storyline and script. I hope I'm wrong lol.
I never really got this mentality.
Like yeah there's plenty of reasons to dislike the House of Mouse (such as "vaulting" movies), but that doesn't mean I need to hate every movie they release. I've had an extremely good time with the MCU and a lot of their other stuff, and frankly I'm excited to see what they do with A/P/AvP. If we get a coherent string of movies that explore different ideas while still tying together like the MCU then I'll be overjoyed. If we don't.... then we're no worse off than before, really.
The only live action movie from DISNEY worth anything is 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954). Don't give a sh*t about their STAR WARS output or ruinous intent for the ALIEN franchise.
Apart from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the STAR WARS trilogy (original theatrical versions) is all I want from DISNEY.
That sure is one hot take.
Indeed...
It isn't entirely incorrect in it's sentiment, and Disney (apart from funding) had no part in the MCU's success or Star Wars' failure.
I don't think Disney has released anything actually good in Bob Iger's tenure. Yes, that includes the MCU and Star Wars. Sure these movies are financially successful but so were the Transformers movies.
The weird thing is, because of the sickening cult-like mentality surrounding comic book movies these days we have to pretend they're genius works of art instead of bloated mediocrities with serviceable writing and charismatic actors.
I honestly don't know what to feel. Mostly, I think it's just nothing. I'm so burned out on the whole Aliens thing, and not having any news on any new films that I hardly visit here anymore.
Perhaps I'm biased as Iv been to Disney world when I was a kid and it's one of my favorite memories, so forgive me, but I really don't get the hostility towards Disney.
Sure have they become too powerful absolutely YES.
But..
Everyone seems to forget what a terrible job George Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels. Disney bashers and ultra Star Wars fans are quick to point fingers yet it's like they have selective memories. I think Disney's efforts have been far better, especially rogue one. Which imho was the best Star Wars film made since The empire strikes back.
I say this because it's almost like history repeating itself, has everyone just gone and forgot what a terrible job Fox was doing with alien and predator? Especially predator. (Just look at The predator)
People say Disney are just hungry for money, but from where Iv been standing it's been Fox who that fits more with.
They have been feeding us garbage since god knows when and it's about the only consistent thing about 20th century fox in terms of alien and predator.
I'm glad they don't have creative control with both franchises anymore. Fresh minds and fresh talent are what both franchises have needed for a long time.
Let's just hope Disney get this right.
Quote from: Horseradish on Nov 03, 2019, 08:00:16 PM
I don't think Disney has released anything actually good in Bob Iger's tenure. Yes, that includes the MCU and Star Wars. Sure these movies are financially successful but so were the Transformers movies.
The weird thing is, because of the sickening cult-like mentality surrounding comic book movies these days we have to pretend they're genius works of art instead of bloated mediocrities with serviceable writing and charismatic actors.
Agreed. I'm fortunate in not being a big comic book or superhero fan, although I do enjoy the first two
Superman (1978 & 1980) films, so the success - or failure of these comic book CGI sh*t-fests means nothing to me.
QuoteSure these movies are financially successful but so were the Transformers movies.
Yep! Just lazily ignore all the positive reviews, which is the complete opposite of the Transformers.
Quote from: EVILthePREDATOR on Nov 03, 2019, 11:27:49 PM
Perhaps I'm biased as Iv been to Disney world when I was a kid and it's one of my favorite memories, so forgive me, but I really don't get the hostility towards Disney.
Sure have they become too powerful absolutely YES.
But..
Everyone seems to forget what a terrible job George Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels. Disney bashers and ultra Star Wars fans are quick to point fingers yet it's like they have selective memories. I think Disney's efforts have been far better, especially rogue one. Which imho was the best Star Wars film made since The empire strikes back.
I haven't forgotten what Lucas did to his own STAR WARS creation. He has trashed the classic original films with his sh*tty SE abominations - boasting (already dated) cancerous, CGI junk that only serves to highlight the age of the original surrounding material. The films are products of their time - the late 1970's and early 80's. The fool refuses to release the
superior originals.
His downward slide began with the rubbish creations - the Ewoks. There hasn't been a truly great STAR WARS film since
The Empire Strikes Back.
True, he gave us STAR WARS - then takes it back and replaces it with 'plastic' STAR WARS. The 1997 / 2004 / 2011 / ? SPECIAL EDITIONS are a travesty.
It goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway: "The prequels suck the fat one - BIG TIME!"
Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 04, 2019, 12:05:57 AMThere hasn't been a truly great STAR WARS film since The Empire Strikes Back.
Objectively correct.
I think Rogue one is Disney's best effort so far.
I had a blast with it.
What I liked is it wasn't afraid to take risks, it wasn't a happy ending and it was absolutely epic seeing Darth Vader again. Also I think it nailed the doom and gloom feel of the empire strikes back.
For what it's worth I'd say rogue one beats any of the prequels.
If they could replicate rogue ones success with alien and predator. I'd be a happy man.
Rogue One is fantastic, but it also did have the advantage of cashing in on a classic film.
Modern day disney is trash.
Since I've only had the chance to see it in-theater twice in 40 years, I won't be bothered by "vaulting".
Quote from: D88M on Nov 04, 2019, 01:06:29 AM
Modern day disney is trash.
But they gave us the MCU though.
I've got the OG versions of the OG Trilogy on Blu-ray. Surrounded with beautiful OG poster art.
And TCW is superior to anything Lucasfilm's done without George Lucas since. And Rogue One is good yes, but it's incredibly disingenuous to say it's all sunshine and roses, the general audience score isn't anywhere near good for the sequel era, regardless of critical opinion.
Ah yes, obviously the MCU is beyond reproach because the critics like them and critics like, watch a lot if movies and are thus smart and stuff. Don't actually pay attention to the quality of the movies and form your own opinion. And the fact that these critics are often either invited to special screenings and treated like princes or are otherwise just hopelessly obsessed comic book nerds desperate to have their favorite characters validated anyway is also irrelevant.
@ Local Trouble, I hate MCU, I don't get what all the fuss is about. Half the characters don't even resemble their comic book counter parts. And with corny jokes relentlessly pushed in my face, I'd rather pass altogether. Take Spider-Man for example, I have nothing against Tom Holland, but the Peter Parker I grew up knowing always struggled, and was full of pain and heart break. He made his own costumes and struggled to make ends meet. And most importantly no one knew his real identity. It was a character cursed with his own powers. Burdened even.
His corny jokes against bad guys were just his form of dealing with being Spider-Man. With Holland everything is just on a plate for him and it's just too easy. (Talking to you there Mr Stark!) It's almost a different character entirely.
The original Spider-Man films while not perfect nailed the essence of Spider-Man from the comics.
Into the spider-verse is another example of how to do this character.
Why can't marvel get its own characters right? Yet Sony can? My conclusion is marvel could get their characters right if they wanted to, but Disney interferes too much.
Quote from: David's Creation on Oct 31, 2019, 10:03:00 AM
Seems so stupid. I can't imagine old film screenings take much business from new ones.
That might be exactly why they did it.
The fee to get it screened might not be worth it given I can't imagine there is enough of these theaters for it to be a particular boon. It has a stake in two other services with Fox products and theirs a bunch of theaters screening the Fox library that Disney could be getting DVD/Blu-ray sales off of, or even streaming be it from Amazon, PSN, Microsoft, or their own sites.
It sucks it'll be removed but on Disney's end one way or the other it makes little difference to them. They could keep it around and let the small notch in streaming sales happen, or they cut it and almost no difference in sales are likely to occur. One way or the other independent theaters are irrelevant to them.
Driving all the way to a specific theater and paying at least $12 per person, before snacks, just to see a movie you can buy for $5 and watch in high definition on a large screen tv or with a modern projector at home. Complete with climate control and a private bathroom and kitchen.
I don't see how it could be a huge portion of the market.
Bonus points if you don't even own it on physical media.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 04, 2019, 02:36:34 AM
Bonus points if you don't even own it on physical media.
The storage solution and organization industry would disagree.
I mean bonus points with me. Physical media should be confiscated.
Normal wear and tear will take care of it in another 10 or 20 years.
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 04, 2019, 02:34:37 AM
Driving all the way to a specific theater and paying at least $12 per person, before snacks, just to see a movie you can buy for $5 and watch in high definition on a large screen tv or with a modern projector at home. Complete with climate control and a private bathroom and kitchen.
Technically if you aren't in a hurry to see it, you can just get it for free eventually. I kind of like seeing movies in the big screen though, even though I don't enjoy most of the stuff that gets released these days.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 04, 2019, 02:43:55 AM
Physical media should be confiscated.
Come at me brah.
Physical media is top tier.
My Alien VHS's still play wonderfully
Well, fair enough. Just so long as they don't start taking the discs out of print or cancel any future release plans. We only just got the first film on ultra HD.
Quote from: dinosauriac on Nov 04, 2019, 06:12:43 PM
Well, fair enough. Just so long as they don't start taking the discs out of print or cancel any future release plans. We only just got the first film on ultra HD.
They will eventually stop printing a run of discs, that's pretty much expected. Without significant overhaul or another release I don't know why they would make another set. We're really only going to be in trouble if they scour the internet to remove all the DVD's from the store fronts and somehow purge them from retail stores.
I'd imagine you should still be able to rent Aliens from PSN or pick up a copy of Predator 2 at Walmart.
I expect DIVX to make a comeback eventually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIVX
Good luck getting anybody to pay $30 for a digital copy when the discs are all gone. When a studio doesn't even have to fool with cases, artwork, disc manufacturing, packaging and distribution, nobody's going to want to pay the same money for a file that they'd fork over for a steelbook 4k combo.
Not to mention the millions of people who still don't have decent internet, or any internet at all.
You can't scratch a file.
I wouldn't mind going all digital. But it would have to be under very specific circumstances.
Would you be willing to part with your dusty bookcase full of DVDs and Blu-rays?
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 04, 2019, 08:14:20 PM
Would you be willing to part with your dusty bookcase full of DVDs and Blu-rays?
Never had one, and 95% of my dvds are gone.
Does your collection look like the bookshelf from The Last Jedi now?
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 04, 2019, 07:55:16 PM
Good luck getting anybody to pay $30 for a digital copy when the discs are all gone.
By then a pack of gum will cost you $10, so I can see it.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 04, 2019, 10:07:44 PM
Does your collection look like the bookshelf from The Last Jedi now?
It looks like 4 very small disc wallets.
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Obi-Wan Kenobi: Appreciators of good storytelling.
Qui-Gon Jinn: The Alien Franchise.
Darth Maul: The Disney monopoly.
I remember in the 90's Disney claiming they were vaulting all their animated movies and that you had to buy them on VHS before they were gone forever. Marketing tactic.
It's not so much vaulting so much as they're stopping doing business with independent theaters. Yeah that's going to hurt that market substantially, but that's more so another nail in the coffin given how easy it already is to pick up a copy of Alien 3 or Mr.Mom. Both of which will be on Hulu and Disney+ and at your local Wal-mart if not your convenience store if they are not already.
This year I finally got to see some classics on the big screen. I was too young to go and see them when they were first released at the cinema. Them films were Alien, The Terminator and Terminator 2 Judgement Day all awesome experiences even know I've seen them films countless times over the years on home formats. I was all hyped thinking maybe I will finally get to see Aliens at the cinema some time in the near future? so does that now mean I won't get a chance to finally watch Aliens anytime soon on the big screen? :(
No Aliens or Alien³ at all.
I wouldn't say that with any certainty. It's situational dependent. Seems to be some leeway for anniversaries, so if Aliens get a 4K or 3D treatment, then odds are we'd see a cinematic re-release, even with them being "vaulted."
Disney rarely does 4K for older films.
I don't expect Aliens or Alien³ re-releases.
Thanks to JC, I suspect an Aliens 4K Disc will never come out unfortunately. We'll have moved onto 8K streaming by that point.
Geez, James Cameron still has to review the blu-ray transfers for True Lies and The Abyss. Fans have only been waiting forever for those...
Yeah, that's the way it is.
Your link is inoperable, love the RDR usage.