"That’s in process" - Ridley on Next Alien Prequel

Started by Stolen, Sep 02, 2020, 07:24:59 PM

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BlueMarsalis79

I guess, but I felt their deaths were considerably more concrete, because after Alien Covenant's release there was an expressed want of a novel set prior to the film about them, I think there was even mention at some point that was the idea for the next produced film.

Kradan

Well, I don't think people will be against a story set in between Pro and Cov exploring David and Shaw on Planet 4. I myself would be up for story showing David's descent into madness and Shaw's slow and horrific realisation of what's going on

BlueMarsalis79

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Then give me that. Yes please. Although nothing requires it be set on Planet 4 either, you just have to get there by the end of a huge ten year time gap.

Nightmare Asylum

https://twitter.com/newscientist/status/1509599345255100417

Looks like the Covenant sequel is just going to play out in the real world instead of on screen, then.


Immortan Jonesy

Quote from: Kradan on Apr 01, 2022, 06:15:45 PM
Well, I don't think people will be against a story set in between Pro and Cov exploring David and Shaw on Planet 4. I myself would be up for story showing David's descent into madness and Shaw's slow and horrific realisation of what's going on

10 years in paradise. Shaw is alive. David is going crazy. The ruins of the Engineers. Mad Scientist den. That should have been the true sequel to Prometheus. A psychological / existential horror movie with elements of gothic fiction.

Stitch

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 01, 2022, 06:04:02 PM
I just felt Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender worked great together on-screen, and that's unlikely to be replicated, with anyone else putting an end to his various machinations you have to do a lot more to earn it.

And I also really like the angle of the idea of the character confronting their horrific children that he created, and perhaps a comeuppance for the way he violated both Charlie Holloway and her, I feel like there's a weird f**ked up story there.

One I'd love to see personally.

Maybe I just desperately wanna see Noomi explore space and existentialism with a android's head in a bag.
I see where you're coming from, and I can understand why you'd want that, but I think the best thing would be a final prequel story, mostly wrapping things up.

Bringing in Shaw clones and stuff would likely make audiences lose their suspense of disbelief, and having an interquel would still leave us with an unfinished story.

Maybe as a comic it could work.

BlueMarsalis79

An interquel could conclude the story, in a roundabout way, as Shaw so eloquently put it "Then who made them?'

If it's about them finding that, the real Space Jockey race as it were, that created the Alien- the original.

You can chalk up David's creation and version of events, as him mimicking unknowingly as he loses his memory and his mind, perhaps he and Shaw even parted (when Doctor Shaw died) on amicable terms and the loneliness drove him to what he did.

You can pretty much tell any story that you want.

Nobody cares what happened to David I certainly do not, he can float off "into infinity for infinity" as Ridley Scott said, but I think you can use his story as a vehicle to make the universe even more horrifically enigmatic than it was in 1979.

You could even have the in between idea be the end of the prequel narrative, in the sense of backing up into the end of the original Alien film, and have the Covenant itself just return empty to the galaxy post Resurrection as a way of returning the Alien to the known universe.

Immortan Jonesy

Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 02, 2022, 11:48:44 PM
An interquel could conclude the story, in a roundabout way, as Shaw so eloquently put it "Then who made them?'

If it's about them finding that, the real Space Jockey race as it were, that created the Alien- the original.

You can chalk up David's creation and version of events, as him mimicking unknowingly as he loses his memory and his mind, perhaps he and Shaw even parted (when Doctor Shaw died) on amicable terms and the loneliness drove him to what he did.

You can pretty much tell any story that you want.

Nobody cares what happened to David I certainly do not, he can float off "into infinity for infinity" as Ridley Scott said, but I think you can use his story as a vehicle to make the universe even more horrifically enigmatic than it was in 1979.

You could even have the in between idea be the end of the prequel narrative, in the sense of backing up into the end of the original Alien film, and have the Covenant itself just return empty to the galaxy post Resurrection as a way of returning the Alien to the known universe.

That question could be the basis of a whole story.


On the one hand, it allows you to:

⚜️ Expand the universe:, which shrinks a bit with the direction Covenant took. So a truly Alien entity might be the creator of a world crawling with strange and mysterious ancient humans, capable of space travel thanks to now lost technology. With that in mind, the Engineers might become an advanced prehistoric human civilization, whose members were more intelligent, taller and stronger than modern humans.

⚜️ Return to cosmic / existential horror: Dr. Shaw spiritual ideals may be naught but cruel illusions, in a dark and gritty universe where we are not even God's creation at all. We are the creations of the fallen angels instead. Once god's favourites, now banished to their fate.

⚜️The Alien might be ancient lost technology: The battle between organic and artificial life, seems to reach its climax when David allegedly creates what he calls 'the perfect organism', both as a destroyer and as a replacement for humanity. But perhaps it was discovered by the Engineers thousands (or even millions) of years after its creation. The Space Jockey as a separate entity from ancient humans may have something to say about it. Plus the Black Pathogen may be an attemp by the Engineers of weaponise Giger's Alien, wich it's also a Jockey creation.

⚜️Shaw Deserves a Better Ending: Shaw is the only character with development and potential of Prometheus, apart from David. I want to see this on screen, but that Covenant prequel novel was a missed opportunity to exploit the relationship between Shaw and David.

⚜️We can have Both: The interquel not only allows us to learn from the interesting aspects of the prequels, but also the story could be in a way the closing of David's arc. There could even be a post credit scene. David's fate could remain a mystery. We just need to know the Alien is ancient, and how his relationship with Shaw may or may not have influenced his madness.

And on the other hand is better than Journey to Origae-6.  8)

BlueMarsalis79

Excellent post.

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