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Posted by Inverse Effect
 - Oct 18, 2021, 09:45:22 PM
Or. Maybe the engineer on LV-426 is David, and the thing that bursts out of him is the Queen chestburster? after he uses Daniels reproductive organs to make the queen. It escapes and dies somehow to events not portrayed in any movie yet. And all of the eggs in the derelict are the crew of the covenant turned into eggs via egg morphing via his experiments?

Or he made a queen to make all of the eggs inside the derelict instead and we dont use the egg morphing method. And now we're left not only with the reasoning behind biomechanic aliens because he used himself as a host. But we also have the Queen > eggs life cycle set up.

When the crew of the Nostromo find the space jockey, it's not at all fossilized, it just appears to be because of the way the suit is made from bone/alien biomechanical space jockey tech. (Which i can forgive because the Jockey suit was already different visually in Prometheus)


 
Posted by [cancerblack]
 - Oct 18, 2021, 05:07:46 PM
A completely blank post? Bizarre.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Oct 18, 2021, 11:18:29 AM
Kenner King.
Posted by [cancerblack]
 - Oct 15, 2021, 06:22:36 PM
Quote from: City Hunter Yautja on Oct 15, 2021, 01:55:44 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 14, 2021, 09:38:19 PM
No, it would be Plagarius Praepotens Rex or something to that effect.

Except it wouldn't, because the "King Alien" doesn't exist.



Is there supposed to be an image there? I can't see anything.
Posted by City Hunter Yautja
 - Oct 15, 2021, 01:55:44 AM
Quote from: [cancerblack] on Oct 14, 2021, 09:38:19 PM
No, it would be Plagarius Praepotens Rex or something to that effect.

Except it wouldn't, because the "King Alien" doesn't exist.

Posted by [cancerblack]
 - Oct 14, 2021, 09:38:19 PM
No, it would be Plagarius Praepotens Rex or something to that effect.

Except it wouldn't, because the "King Alien" doesn't exist.
Posted by City Hunter Yautja
 - Oct 14, 2021, 09:03:29 PM
Would the King Alien be Rex Plagarius?
Posted by [cancerblack]
 - Oct 14, 2021, 08:29:52 PM
But where's Plagarius Tapiridae?
Posted by City Hunter Yautja
 - Oct 14, 2021, 04:36:31 PM
That last one is Plagarius Deaconis. ;)
Posted by jorel04
 - Oct 11, 2021, 11:38:41 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jul 27, 2021, 06:22:17 PM
TY. I like helping.

Freakin' awesome!  Thank you for posting that; it makes it look a little easier to understand.  Definitely don't want to study these creatures up-close... LOL
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - Jul 27, 2021, 06:22:17 PM
TY. I like helping.
Posted by BlueMarsalis79
 - Jul 27, 2021, 02:40:59 AM
Thank you for the thorough explanation and link.
Posted by Immortan Jonesy
 - Jul 26, 2021, 04:30:05 PM
Quote from: Stitch on Jul 26, 2021, 01:16:14 PM
Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on Jul 26, 2021, 12:40:29 AM
David created Plagarius linesteres which materializes in a morph lacking the biomechanical characteristics of Plagarius praepotens. Whether P. praepotens existed before David's actions is the subject of speculation, and probably the plan was that David eventually plays a pivotal role in the evolution from P. linesteres to P. praepotens, with all that and maybe even a first queen.
I'm confused. As far as I was aware, P. praepotens was the black goo itself, but you're referring to it as if it's the alien from Covenant. What gives?

P. praepotens was introduced in the novel The Cold Forge as a mutagenic substance produced by a facehugger to create a chestburster embryo within a host.


But yeah, Alex White said something along these lines.  :laugh:


Honestly, I don't know why he said that. Was it his way of making things less confusing for us? I mean, P. praepotens is the mutagenic substance to create the biomechanical Alien, as far I'm aware. The closest thing to the pathogen is P. linesteres which creates a chestburster that matures into a non-biomechanical Alien. That's...




I could be wrong, but as I understand the pathogen took many forms, until David began to do his own experimentation, with a less random direction,  since as White himself states "resequenced by David, Linneaus-style". The result was his Praetomorph, which is created when a facehugger introduces P. linesteres to a host. P. praepotens produces Giger's Alien, with its biomechanical details, in addition to the chestbursters from the original films, which are generally snake-shaped (some with front limbs and others without limbs).




Also, if we talk about mutagenic substances produced by facehugger (or the equivalent) to create chestbursters in hosts, there is still an unknown type of Plagiarious. I guess it's the original pathogen playing randomly to create a hybrid. 👀


Actually, in David's Praetomorph (P. linesteres) in addition to being fleshy like the pathogen-based hybrids, the chestbursters are born fully developed with arms and legs just like the Deacon & Neomorph. So yeah, P. linesteres is the closest thing to the original pathogen IMO. I wonder if you need a queen for facehuggers that are carriers of P. praepotens? 🤔

Here's a stunning comparison to real life viruses.  8)

PLAGIARUS PRAEPOTENS by STUDIO YUTANI
Posted by Nightmare Asylum
 - Jul 26, 2021, 02:01:20 PM
Was it easy, though? I mean, it took David ~10 years and if his lab is anything to go by, it took a ton of trial and error and experimentation over the course of that decade before he reached the iteration of the Alien that we see in Covenant, and by Covenant's ending the Alien still isn't even completed/perfected.

Posted by jorel04
 - Jul 26, 2021, 01:37:36 PM
I had a problem with how the creation was so easy in terms of how it was portrayed. That's why, in my fan fiction, I try to answer that question using what I think of the pathogen, David's experiments, and how "unpredictable" the pathogen's results were told to be.  I've always thought that, since it was so interpretative that David was the creator, it can also be interpretive on what resulted from it.  That he facilitated it versus out-and-out creating it... A cop out, sure. But if I "was booking it," to use a pro wrestling phrase.
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