Just announced:
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/dark-horse-comics-predator-hunters-iii
"However, with Predator Hunters III, Chris went back to the beginnings of our Predator cycle and brought in a couple characters who haven't been seen in thirty years or more. Longtime readers will be pleased, but even new readers will appreciate how these returning characters expand the Predator universe."
Could they mean Schaefer and Rasche? Maybe General Phillips?
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Loving the covers.
Pretty much what the title says. You can read more below. It is scheduled to release in Feburary 5th, 2020.
https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/dark-horse-comics-predator-hunters-iii
Also, here are two covers for the upcoming series
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Oh shit! It seems that we may be seeing Schaefer make a return! Nice find Katanu
Those Predators look cool.
Will he finally get a first name? :laugh:
I'm really glad they're continuing this series, enjoyed both 1 and 2 so far.
Thanks for the link, Katanu! Really really excited for this. I've been enjoying the Predator: Hunter series so much and I'd been worried we wouldn't be seeing a third series because of the radio silence! Really good team on this one too. I'm very fond of Thies' previous artwork and Dzoiba's colours are great (I still want a recolouring of the original AvP with him).
It really does sound like Schaefer is making a return! Wonder if it might tie into the jungle from Concrete Jungle and Dark River???
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 13, 2019, 06:11:03 PM
Could they mean Schaefer and Rasche? Maybe General Phillips?
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Yessssssss
A bit of baseless speculation on my end but what if this ties into Predator:Hunting Grounds? Sure jungles are just kind of a thing with Predator but we know somebody is gunning for Stargazer, they show up in the last series, and both Hunting Grounds and this will take place somewhere in South/central America. We know the game will release somewhere in 2020 and the summer season would be the ideal time to release Predator content even if the book will have wrapped by May.
Maybe this is just a bunch of coincidences but Ilfonic did say they got to see things we haven't and that thing might've been this comic. Perhaps it's going to have some narrative connections to the game or that the game will reference events from this.
Even if not I'm glad we're getting another, these comics have been really good.
I would enjoy something like that. I'm all for a more connected Predator Universe. That's one of the cool concepts of this series, using characters from different comics.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Nov 13, 2019, 11:57:10 PM
A bit of baseless speculation on my end but what if this ties into Predator:Hunting Grounds? Sure jungles are just kind of a thing with Predator but we know somebody is gunning for Stargazer, they show up in the last series, and both Hunting Grounds and this will take place somewhere in South/central America. We know the game will release somewhere in 2020 and the summer season would be the ideal time to release Predator content even if the book will have wrapped by May.
And doesn't the prequel novel to Hunting Grounds come out in May?
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Quote from: Katanu on Nov 14, 2019, 01:06:57 AM
I would enjoy something like that. I'm all for a more connected Predator Universe. That's one of the cool concepts of this series, using characters from different comics.
I also like the idea of different characters coming together from across various comics. It's nice to experiment with it in the comics, even if they stay away from that angle for the movies.
f**k yeah !
Hope we get something a bit more innovative this time
This has to be Detective Scaefer
Spoiler
Written by Chris Warner (Predator Hunters, Barb Wire) and injected with explosive art via Brian Thies (Predator: Life and Death, Star Wars: Legacy) colored by Wes Dzoiba (MST 3000: The Comic, Aliens vs. Predator: Three World War), this four-part miniseries heads back to the steaming green jungles to craft the next dangerous chapter in the Predator legacy.
The extraterrestrial insanity kicks off with ex-drug runner Raphael Herrera reliving his worst nightmare. After that horrifying night when his men were slaughtered by an unearthly monster, Herrera joined up with the Predator Hunters crew. Now, years later, cartel soldiers are being murdered in the thick jungles of Central America, indicating to Herrera that the dreaded Predators have returned!
"Predator Hunters III was a bit of special fun for me, getting to loop back a bit to the first Predator comics Dark Horse published," Warner tells SYFY WIRE. "I was an artist on that original series, and I'd always wanted to play in that sandbox again. And I was able to go about it while still getting to hang out with the team of Predator hunters I created for the first two Hunters series. Career-wise, I've come full circle, which means I get a set of steak knives, I think."
Predator 2
Credit: Dark Horse Comics
"Bringing together characters (or their descendants) from Dark Horse's many standalone Predator series is something I'd been wanting to do for a long time, and I think Chris Warner's handling of the union has been great," adds series editor Randy Stradley. "However, with Predator Hunters III, Chris went back to the beginnings of our Predator cycle and brought in a couple characters who haven't been seen in thirty years or more. Longtime readers will be pleased, but even new readers will appreciate how these returning characters expand the Predator universe."
Featuring a brutal main cover illustrated by Brian Thies and a wicked variant by Andy Brase, Dark Horse Comics' Predator Hunters III #1 strikes comic shops and online vendors on Feb. 5, 2020.
Sweet, was waiting for this.
Nice! I just read Hunters and Hunters 2 recently and enjoyed them both quite a bit, and was needless to say waiting for the inevitable announcement of 3 after how 2 ended. The possibility that they might be bringing Schaefer back only makes it even sweeter!
Maybe Schaefer will finally get a first name :laugh:
Stan.
Tim.
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Abner.
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 13, 2019, 06:16:41 PM
Will he finally get a first name? :laugh:
I'm really glad they're continuing this series, enjoyed both 1 and 2 so far.
We know his first name, it's Detective.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 15, 2019, 09:20:02 PM
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 13, 2019, 06:16:41 PM
Will he finally get a first name? :laugh:
I'm really glad they're continuing this series, enjoyed both 1 and 2 so far.
We know his first name, it's Detective.
And here people thought "Detective" denoted some particular police rank.
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;D
Nothing new, just the same announcement but in Dark Horse's site:
https://www.darkhorse.com/Blog/3088/predators-jungle-where-it-all-started?fbclid=IwAR3DLDVYvAu_1CSwDormjq-0xoqxBID8CAXQtArcrkZvZDO_n8aUeIbhot8
Damn, I love Schaeffer and seeing him back would be AWESOME. This guy even kicked Arnold's ass in terms of being badass and saying cool one-liners. He carried on his back whole original trilogy .
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It would be nice if in the future Dark Horse releases an Oversized Hardcover collecting all three series.
Dreaming far ahead here :D
They did do!
Detective Schaefer was supposed to be Dutch's protective older brother...so yeah, think an even bigger and tougher Arnold type character
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 17, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
They did do!
Ops, sorry.
I meant collecting Hunters I, II and III.
Yes. been waiting for this
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 19, 2019, 12:40:54 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 17, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
They did do!
Ops, sorry.
I meant collecting Hunters I, II and III.
Ah! Yeah, that'd be nice! They just released a big Library Edition of Defiance, so I'd assume we might see a collected edition of Hunters at some point eventually.
Quote from: happypred on Nov 19, 2019, 11:00:18 AM
Detective Schaefer was supposed to be Dutch's protective older brother...so yeah, think an even bigger and tougher Arnold type character
Exactly
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 19, 2019, 08:49:55 PM
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 19, 2019, 12:40:54 PM
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 17, 2019, 06:38:54 PM
They did do!
Ops, sorry.
I meant collecting Hunters I, II and III.
Ah! Yeah, that'd be nice! They just released a big Library Edition of Defiance, so I'd assume we might see a collected edition of Hunters at some point eventually.
Here's hoping for that in the future! ;D
Quote from: happypred on Nov 14, 2019, 05:07:22 AM
Hope we get something a bit more innovative this time
At this point, I personally have no complaints. I really loved Hunters and was surprised to discover Hunters II was even better.
To be honest, in my humble opinion, there has been some great Predator Comic moments sprinkled throughout the years like Concrete Jungle Issue 1,
parts of Dark River, Race War and Bad Blood, the wonderful 1718 short... but this is the most consistently great Predator comics has ever been to me! So bring on Hunters III !!!
PREDATOR: HUNTERS III #2 covers
Spoiler
The Hunters team is in Belize, where they have an acrimonious meeting with the newly arrived Russian team that is after the same quarry. Fortunately, an unexpected player from Dark Horses very first Predator series is there to prevent bloodshed.
Meanwhile, the Predators are busy racking up a body count in the jungle!
(JONATHAN WAYSHAK VARIANT COVER)
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Quote from: molasar on Dec 21, 2019, 01:52:34 AM
PREDATOR: HUNTERS III #2 covers
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The Hunters team is in Belize, where they have an acrimonious meeting with the newly arrived Russian team that is after the same quarry. Fortunately, an unexpected player from Dark Horses very first Predator series is there to prevent bloodshed.
Meanwhile, the Predators are busy racking up a body count in the jungle!
(JONATHAN WAYSHAK VARIANT COVER)
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Thanks for sharing molasar!
Hmm, not loving that Wayshak variant cover though. He's obviously very talented, but he's making the Predator look a bit like a hybrid spider (imo).
Quote from: molasar on Dec 21, 2019, 01:52:34 AM
PREDATOR: HUNTERS III #2 covers
Spoiler
The Hunters team is in Belize, where they have an acrimonious meeting with the newly arrived Russian team that is after the same quarry. Fortunately, an unexpected player from Dark Horses very first Predator series is there to prevent bloodshed.
Meanwhile, the Predators are busy racking up a body count in the jungle!
(JONATHAN WAYSHAK VARIANT COVER)
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Thanks for sharing!
This predator is all covered in hair (or spikes?). It looks weird. The predators have some quills on their bodies, but Jonatan Wayshak obviously went too far with this, he painted too many quills. But overall the cover looks fine.
I actually like it because he looks so spidery. Gives it a cool, different look that goes well with the obligatory mandibles and large forehead.
Looks a bit like a wolf spider
Indeed. I think I'll be sticking with the regular cover.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 22, 2019, 01:35:55 PM
Indeed. I think I'll be sticking with the regular cover.
What if . . . it's worse than a hairy Predator?
It's a hairy
Crabator.
Quote from: TheSailingRabbit on Dec 22, 2019, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 22, 2019, 01:35:55 PM
Indeed. I think I'll be sticking with the regular cover.
What if . . . it's worse than a hairy Predator?
It's a hairy Crabator.
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I've very rarely liked the variant covers. But I usually trade my singles for trades once they come out, so it's kind of a null point for me.
New interview
http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/predator-hunters-interview/
Interesting comment from Brian about manga influencing his take on the visuals for this. I've always said I thought Predator would suit a stylized manga. He certainly talks more in terms of the detailing, but I'm curious to see how it looks.
Hot damn, I really can't wait for this. This series has been such a high point for Predator comics.
Yeah it's a shame we have to wait so long between each series rather than it just being an ongoing (and I say this as someone who read Hunters 1 & 2 pretty much back to back in trade).
I wants more and I wants it now!! :laugh:
Yeah the trades are real inexpensive on Amazon ($11+ and $13+) if anyone wants to get in on the fun who haven't already.
https://www.amazon.com/Predator-Hunters-Chris-Warner/dp/1506703925
I do really appreciate how Chris Warner is managing these characters too, shifting the spotlight with each installment:
CW: "Dealing with multiple lead characters is a challenge—that's a lot of balls in the air. The stories have to be about something, about the characters, but it's not a soap opera. To keep matters more manageable, I've tried to rotate through the characters in terms of focus in each series. The first series is primarily about Enoch Nakai, the second about Tyler Swain, the third about Raphael Herrera. And Jaya Soames as the team leader is pretty much the co-lead in each series. So far, I haven't had the chance to spotlight Mandy Graves, so hopefully we'll get that opportunity. We've also re-introduced some old characters in the third series, but I don't want to spoil the surprises."
Ya I finally convinced a friend at work to buy them on Amazon and now he keeps asking me about Hunters 3 so needless to say he loved them both.
I may be reading between the lines on the interview but I guess Hunters 4 has gotta focus on Mandy!
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Jan 15, 2020, 09:47:37 PM
Ya I finally convinced a friend at work to buy them on Amazon and now he keeps asking me about Hunters 3 so needless to say he loved them both.
Same here! He's yet to read II but he blazed through I in one sitting and said he loved it.
QuoteI may be reading between the lines on the interview but I guess Hunters 4 has gotta focus on Mandy!
Agreed. Let's hope III is just as successful and it happens. :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Dec 21, 2019, 03:19:29 AM
Quote from: molasar on Dec 21, 2019, 01:52:34 AM
PREDATOR: HUNTERS III #2 covers
Spoiler
The Hunters team is in Belize, where they have an acrimonious meeting with the newly arrived Russian team that is after the same quarry. Fortunately, an unexpected player from Dark Horses very first Predator series is there to prevent bloodshed.
Meanwhile, the Predators are busy racking up a body count in the jungle!
(JONATHAN WAYSHAK VARIANT COVER)
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Thanks for sharing molasar!
Hmm, not loving that Wayshak variant cover though. He's obviously very talented, but he's making the Predator look a bit like a hybrid spider (imo).
Agreed. It looks like a more primitive or a Predator from a much earlier time frame, like one that would be from the 1700s or earlier when the tech isn't as advanced. I like the regular cover seemingly to make a tribute to sequence when the Predator comes out of the water from the film.
#3 covers
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The Hunters compete in a game of wits with the Russians to find--and kill--the Predators. As they follow the Predator trail deeper into the treacherous jungle, they make a shocking discovery--there are two Predators! The hunters may become the hunted ...
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PATRICK BLAINE VARIANT COVER - features glow-in-the-dark ink.
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Quote from: molasar on Jan 25, 2020, 11:45:46 PM
#3 covers
Spoiler
The Hunters compete in a game of wits with the Russians to find--and kill--the Predators. As they follow the Predator trail deeper into the treacherous jungle, they make a shocking discovery--there are two Predators! The hunters may become the hunted ...
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PATRICK BLAINE VARIANT COVER - features glow-in-the-dark ink.
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It's getting closer!!!
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I'm still deciding if I dig that first bio helmet but I love me some glow-in-the-dark ink!
Ya I'll be paying the extra dollar for the glow in the dark variant. I'm a sucker for those kind of marketing ploys!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Jan 28, 2020, 02:47:58 PM
It's getting closer!!!
https://media.giphy.com/media/SuV1m5xZLJE2Y/giphy.gif
I'm still deciding if I dig that first bio helmet but I love me some glow-in-the-dark ink!
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Helmet proportions looking a little odd here. But still eagerly awaiting the first issue! ;D
https://www.comicsbeat.com/predator-hunters-iii-1-exclusive-preview/
Nice find Molestar!!!
Hot damn. I stopped at three pages. I'm not going to read anymore. But it sure looks good and read well! Can't wait!
Quote from: molasar on Feb 03, 2020, 08:33:58 PM
https://www.comicsbeat.com/predator-hunters-iii-1-exclusive-preview/
Nice 8) I'm really diggin the look of this helmet.
Yeah, I wasn't sure about that helmet on the cover of issue #3, I guess because of the angle, but I'm digging it more here:
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Cool, I was just looking for a preview of this the other day.
I always like it when Predators taunt their prey with their own words. The one in Hunters 2 did it a ton, so here's hoping this one has a similar sense of humour.
And yeah from some angles/in some pics the helmet looks a bit wonky, but overall I'm kinda digging it.
I also kinda hope that at least one character in this asks whether they shouldn't just leave this Predator to his hunt, given that the people he's killing are all drug cartel goons. Seems like he's doing the world a favour.
Could at the very least provide some drama/tension between Herrera and anyone who felt that way, if not just say out loud what a lot of readers are probably thinking.
First issue is a good set up. Some good action in here.
Art is good. Looking forward to more.
Nice! Will be picking up my copy tonight. Woot!
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I really like the opening even if I find some of the religious talk a bit eye rolling. That being said he'd been through a lot so freaking out a little and rambling is probably warranted.
I think I heard that this book is supposed to have two Predators so my initial reaction to the first issue is that Herrera didn't actually kill his Predator in the flashback. That he injured it and ran off with the Predator surviving out in the jungle or at least still frequenting the area. Whether that's the new hunter or not I'm not sure but that'd be my guess. That'd also fit in well with the other books with Enoch having killed his, Swain not fighting it until later, and now Herrera who did fight it but potentially didn't kill it.
Only issues is that the art isn't great as I'd have preferred the former style but this works fine. It's just that some expressions look a little goofy. Also the Predator action is more or less what's been covered in the preview and that Herrera had encountered the Predators prior.The comic pretty much serves to refresh the audience on what happened prior which isn't a bad thing though I can imagine it's going to be a bit off if you read it in one sitting.
I will admit I like the creativity of the book's final kill. It's simple but not something I'd expect to see a Predator do. Good stuff.
A-
-Some odd expressions
-The strange selfie moment
-Herrera rambles a fair bit though while understandable can be a little annoying.
Overall it's pretty good. Also can't help but notice that it seems to be printed on nicer paper than Thicker than blood is. Very nice.
Great first issue!
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Raphael's recap of events from his perspective was a creative way to bring the reader back up to speed with the events from the first two series. And some cool predator moments from Brian Thies in the retelling of Raphael's encounter as well.
We got a glimpse of who appears to be Schaefer delivering a signature cheesy one liner when he spots Ligachev from "Cold War" but no confirmation on if it is these specific characters.
Lastly we see the "present day" Predator wrecking a bunch of drug dealers with some more great panels from Brian Thies.
Really excited to see where the story goes from here!
Very, very good first issue!!! I'm so glad that quality hasn't dropped. The Hunters series has a real cinematic quality to it. Chris is writing film scripts here! Good stuff!
The only thing I can't get my head around is....
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Was Raphael always this religious? Is this new or do I have revisit Hunters (I) because my recollection is faulty? It's not a fault of the comic if I'm remembering incorrectly, but if this heavy religious hand is new, Chris should have thrown in a team observation line like "It's crazy. Since Raphael has returned he seemed to find religion" or something of the like.
Also that unknown hot zone visitor.. I suspect it may be a certain gal from Dark River... ;D
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 06, 2020, 02:06:55 PM
Very, very good first issue!!! I'm so glad that quality hasn't dropped. The Hunters series has a real cinematic quality to it. Chris is writing film scripts here! Good stuff!
The only thing I can't get my head around is....
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Was Raphael always this religious? Is this new or do I have revisit Hunters (I) because my recollection is faulty? It's not a fault of the comic if I'm remembering incorrectly, but if this heavy religious hand is new, Chris should have thrown in a team observation line like "It's crazy. Since Raphael has returned he seemed to find religion" or something of the like.
Also that unknown hot zone visitor.. I suspect it may be a certain gal from Dark River... ;D
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Raphael is from Latin America which is predominantly Catholic due to the colonization/conquest of Spain over those lands. So him having a reflective religious moment doesn't seem out of place at all in my book.
And I think the hot zone visitor is the gal from Cold War... We shall see next month hopefully!
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Feb 06, 2020, 06:19:59 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 06, 2020, 02:06:55 PM
Very, very good first issue!!! I'm so glad that quality hasn't dropped. The Hunters series has a real cinematic quality to it. Chris is writing film scripts here! Good stuff!
The only thing I can't get my head around is....
Spoiler
Was Raphael always this religious? Is this new or do I have revisit Hunters (I) because my recollection is faulty? It's not a fault of the comic if I'm remembering incorrectly, but if this heavy religious hand is new, Chris should have thrown in a team observation line like "It's crazy. Since Raphael has returned he seemed to find religion" or something of the like.
Also that unknown hot zone visitor.. I suspect it may be a certain gal from Dark River... ;D
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Raphael is from Latin America which is predominantly Catholic due to the colonization/conquest of Spain over those lands. So him having a reflective religious moment doesn't seem out of place at all in my book.
And I think the hot zone visitor is the gal from Cold War... We shall see next month hopefully!
Yeah but
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Raphael Herrera was a drug runner so that doesn't scream religious to me. Now perhaps he found religion when he retired, assumingly after his family was killed, but it just struck me as a bit out a character based off the little I remember of him. Raphael now seems to know his scriptures though and is deeply into it, but perhaps I'm reading too much into it. I'm going to re-read it again and revisit Hunters I and see if I missed some hints. Either way, I still really liked it though!
Yeah, regarding our mystery woman, hopefully we'll find out who's right next issue! :)
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 06, 2020, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Feb 06, 2020, 06:19:59 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 06, 2020, 02:06:55 PM
Very, very good first issue!!! I'm so glad that quality hasn't dropped. The Hunters series has a real cinematic quality to it. Chris is writing film scripts here! Good stuff!
The only thing I can't get my head around is....
Spoiler
Was Raphael always this religious? Is this new or do I have revisit Hunters (I) because my recollection is faulty? It's not a fault of the comic if I'm remembering incorrectly, but if this heavy religious hand is new, Chris should have thrown in a team observation line like "It's crazy. Since Raphael has returned he seemed to find religion" or something of the like.
Also that unknown hot zone visitor.. I suspect it may be a certain gal from Dark River... ;D
Spoiler
Raphael is from Latin America which is predominantly Catholic due to the colonization/conquest of Spain over those lands. So him having a reflective religious moment doesn't seem out of place at all in my book.
And I think the hot zone visitor is the gal from Cold War... We shall see next month hopefully!
Yeah but
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Raphael Herrera was a drug runner so that doesn't scream religious to me. Now perhaps he found religion when he retired, assumingly after his family was killed, but it just struck me as a bit out a character based off the little I remember of him. Raphael now seems to know his scriptures though and is deeply into it, but perhaps I'm reading too much into it. I'm going to re-read it again and revisit Hunters I and see if I missed some hints. Either way, I still really liked it though!
Yeah, regarding our mystery woman, hopefully we'll find out who's right next issue! :)
I mean Italian mobsters are also very religious (Catholic) so it's not uncommon to be in a sinful business and still worship regularly. That Catholic guilt weighs heavy!
Art in Thicker than Blood way better than the art in this
Ya but Wheatley hands down has the best looking predators in the business (his Xenos are up there too). But I really enjoy Brian Thies style as it captures a lot of movement.
Quote from: happypred on Feb 07, 2020, 03:33:46 AM
Art in Thicker than Blood way better than the art in this
Hmm. Maybe? They're different styles.
But the Hunters III story is already kicking Thicker than Blood's ass in my humble opinion. Thicker's story is about as deep as a thumbtack, which would be fine if it was written as an action comic, but it's not. So Thicker has me frustrated two issues in.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 06, 2020, 02:06:55 PM
Very, very good first issue!!! I'm so glad that quality hasn't dropped. The Hunters series has a real cinematic quality to it. Chris is writing film scripts here! Good stuff!
The only thing I can't get my head around is....
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Was Raphael always this religious? Is this new or do I have revisit Hunters (I) because my recollection is faulty? It's not a fault of the comic if I'm remembering incorrectly, but if this heavy religious hand is new, Chris should have thrown in a team observation line like "It's crazy. Since Raphael has returned he seemed to find religion" or something of the like.
Also that unknown hot zone visitor.. I suspect it may be a certain gal from Dark River... ;D
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Raphael is from Latin America which is predominantly Catholic due to the colonization/conquest of Spain over those lands. So him having a reflective religious moment doesn't seem out of place at all in my book.
And I think the hot zone visitor is the gal from Cold War... We shall see next month hopefully!
Yeah but
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Raphael Herrera was a drug runner so that doesn't scream religious to me. Now perhaps he found religion when he retired, assumingly after his family was killed, but it just struck me as a bit out a character based off the little I remember of him. Raphael now seems to know his scriptures though and is deeply into it, but perhaps I'm reading too much into it. I'm going to re-read it again and revisit Hunters I and see if I missed some hints. Either way, I still really liked it though!
Yeah, regarding our mystery woman, hopefully we'll find out who's right next issue! :)
I thought this as well, but Xiggz456 has a decent point. It does make me want to go back and re-read the first series anyway, just to check.
I enjoyed the first issue. It's kicking off quite nicely. Also a fan of Thies art - have been since Life and Death - though I'm still not sure on these head/mask proportions. They look soooo big.
I actually think Mooneyham does the best predators.
The Ahab flashback hunt scene in Predator Fire & Stone blew my socks off
Quote from: happypred on Feb 08, 2020, 11:13:34 AM
I actually think Mooneyham does the best predators.
The Ahab flashback hunt scene in Predator Fire & Stone blew my socks off
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Yeah, Ahab was good.
Cant wait for this!
I miss having a local comic shop, I'm still waiting for the first issue to arrive. I decided to also pick up the Hunters II TPB finally, only have the single issues.
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 06, 2020, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Feb 06, 2020, 06:19:59 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Feb 06, 2020, 02:06:55 PM
Very, very good first issue!!! I'm so glad that quality hasn't dropped. The Hunters series has a real cinematic quality to it. Chris is writing film scripts here! Good stuff!
The only thing I can't get my head around is....
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Was Raphael always this religious? Is this new or do I have revisit Hunters (I) because my recollection is faulty? It's not a fault of the comic if I'm remembering incorrectly, but if this heavy religious hand is new, Chris should have thrown in a team observation line like "It's crazy. Since Raphael has returned he seemed to find religion" or something of the like.
Also that unknown hot zone visitor.. I suspect it may be a certain gal from Dark River... ;D
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Raphael is from Latin America which is predominantly Catholic due to the colonization/conquest of Spain over those lands. So him having a reflective religious moment doesn't seem out of place at all in my book.
And I think the hot zone visitor is the gal from Cold War... We shall see next month hopefully!
Yeah but
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Raphael Herrera was a drug runner so that doesn't scream religious to me. Now perhaps he found religion when he retired, assumingly after his family was killed, but it just struck me as a bit out a character based off the little I remember of him. Raphael now seems to know his scriptures though and is deeply into it, but perhaps I'm reading too much into it. I'm going to re-read it again and revisit Hunters I and see if I missed some hints. Either way, I still really liked it though!
Yeah, regarding our mystery woman, hopefully we'll find out who's right next issue! :)
I thought this as well, but Xiggz456 has a decent point. It does make me want to go back and re-read the first series anyway, just to check.
I enjoyed the first issue. It's kicking off quite nicely. Also a fan of Thies art - have been since Life and Death - though I'm still not sure on these head/mask proportions. They look soooo big.
Well Raphael did say this in Hunters I:
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So thankfully there was brief foreshadowing of his religious nature. I guess it was because his character was never prominent until now, and he told a Predator to go f*ck his mother before losing an ear, that it felt out of left field to me. Happy to find this.
Really digging this first issue. Brian Thies has done some great work here. Some sweet looking panels in this, much improved over L&D I think.
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I'm positive it's Ligachev arriving in Belize and Schaefer is the one surveilling them. But we'll see for sure next issue hopefully.
The Hunters series has given new life to the Predator only side of the EU. I love that they've brought back some old EU characters and actually put them in really great Predator stories.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 12, 2020, 12:24:20 AM
Really digging this first issue. Brian Thies has done some great work here. Some sweet looking panels in this, much improved over L&D I think.
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I'm positive it's Ligachev arriving in Belize and Schaefer is the one surveilling them. But we'll see for sure next issue hopefully.
The Hunters series has given new life to the Predator only side of the EU. I love that they've brought back some old EU characters and actually put them in really great Predator stories.
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As someone who's read (I think) every standalone Predator comic, it's never been as consistently good as it is right now. Thank you Chris Warner.
I read issue #1 a second time, and have a couple new observations:
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1. I don't know how I missed this "Red Square" comment, but now that I see it, uhh duh Voodoo, of course it's Ligachev from Cold War.
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2. At the end of the issue, I'm not completely certain the other Predator that drags the drug runner in the water is actually killing him. Perhaps that Predator is actually saving him, saving him from being slaughtered by the other Predator we saw kill his 'friends' panels before.
Perhaps.
I think Voodoo is right or they screwed up.
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The Predator on the final page has a different mask to what we see only a page earlier and on some covers. So if they screwed that up the very next page that's an impressive hiccup on the artwork (if that's the case maybe it can be corrected for the trade?). However the art advertising the next issue also has this altered mask design. So either he changed it or we got a second Predator. Not even like the inconsistencies in Ahab's mask either, it's even a different color.
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Feb 12, 2020, 03:20:44 PM
I think Voodoo is right or they screwed up.
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The Predator on the final page has a different mask to what we see only a page earlier and on some covers. So if they screwed that up the very next page that's an impressive hiccup on the artwork (if that's the case maybe it can be corrected for the trade?). However the art advertising the next issue also has this altered mask design. So either he changed it or we got a second Predator. Not even like the inconsistencies in Ahab's mask either, it's even a different color.
Nope, that's no scew-up.
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There are definitely two Predators in that end-scene. Here's Brian Thies' concept art for both.
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The question remains... was the second Predator killing or saving. :o
first mask looks like a mix of Jungle Hunter and Hornhead and I rather like that.
I personally just adore this mask, this look. I know, I know, it's radically different than the original great Jungle Hunter look, but I just love it. So creepy.
(https://i.ibb.co/CtVFFf2/05.jpg)
Yeah that is a great panel, love that design too.
I just re-read Hunters II for the first time since the single issues came out. Its f*cking awesome, just fantastic. Even better collected as a graphic novel, it has great pacing for a 5 issue run. I remember not being super hot on the art on my first run through but man is it great. Some of the panels are just too cool.
I also noticed Jaya mentions her Russian contacts in this series too. Maybe it's a little more foreshadowing for this 3rd series.
Indeed. So far it wonderfully feels like Warner had these backstories locked down from the get-go. There's none of that making-it-up-as-we-go-along vibes. Damn it's good, and would be a great model if Disweyland ever decides to make Predator into one of those six-episode streaming series. All this good writing just gets me even more frustrated with Black & Dekker and the missed opportunity that is The Predator. But I digress...
Im sick of the films trying to make their own bigger badder version of the predator. It feels like such a lame childish way to approach the property. It damages the franchise as a whole when they keep using the actual predator as just a tool to make their crappy new creature look good.
Hunters understands that there is nothing wrong with the creature itself, that when used correctly the predator is as effective as it ever has been.
I had no problem with the super predators from Predators, but yeah I agree.
The films, if we get anymore, should focus on giving each predator its own personality and hunting style as opposed to it being bigger and badder like the (not so) Upgrade.
Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 13, 2020, 05:51:36 PM
I had no problem with the super predators from Predators, but yeah I agree.
The films, if we get anymore, should focus on giving each predator its own personality and hunting style as opposed to it being bigger and badder like the (not so) Upgrade.
You there... you get it.
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Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 13, 2020, 05:08:59 PM
Hunters understands that there is nothing wrong with the creature itself, that when used correctly the predator is as effective as it ever has been.
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Quote from: JokersWarPig on Feb 13, 2020, 05:51:36 PM
I had no problem with the super predators from Predators, but yeah I agree.
The films, if we get anymore, should focus on giving each predator its own personality and hunting style as opposed to it being bigger and badder like the (not so) Upgrade.
I like Predators but I didnt really care for the suitwork and berserkers face is a good reminder of how great the regular predators is
Quote from: 426Buddy on Feb 15, 2020, 01:57:29 PM
I like Predators but I didnt really care for the suitwork and berserkers face is a good reminder of how great the regular predators is
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Going off on a bit of a tangent here, I know it's natural for creators to often want to put their stamp on things, but it's frustrating when they keep messing with something already perfected. As seen with the City Hunter and Lost Predators... a new bio mask, color schemes and minor crown and facial cosmetic changes is all that's required. Stop trying to reinvent the wheel!
I haven't read this yet but what I hear is the predators are easily beaten in Predator Hunters 1-3. Is this correct or do they put up a good fight? I do know that lots of old humans come back from the original Dark Horse run.
I did read AVP Thicker Than Blood 1 and 2 and it seems like those Predators are beaten quite easily and quickly by the Xenomorph and by one of the humans/androids.
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Thicker than Blood "pulls a Grid", so to speak.
The predator in Predator Hunters II is pretty formidable
Quote from: shadowedge on Feb 15, 2020, 07:19:43 PM
I haven't read this yet but what I hear is the predators are easily beaten in Predator Hunters 1-3. Is this correct or do they put up a good fight? I do know that lots of old humans come back from the original Dark Horse run.
I did read AVP Thicker Than Blood 1 and 2 and it seems like those Predators are beaten quite easily and quickly by the Xenomorph and by one of the humans/androids.
I think most importantly is the writing is so much better in Hunters than Thicker than Blood. However, overall the Predators are more formidable and fair much, much better in Hunters than Thicker than Blood, especially in issue #2. Nothing made my eyes roll more than the whip-armed-Predator and the Xenomorph squaring off, and the next panel we see the Predator dismembered and the Alien victorious on top
without a scratch with no element of surprise in play. I'm fine with the Alien winning, but without a scratch? Show me how. Alas, nada.
It didn't bother me a bit :laugh: ;)
I do have to say though, as a long time alien/predator comic collector, this has been a pretty great decade. Even though it hasn't matched the its peak in the early 90's the output has been pretty regular with a few great stories. I'm just super happy that the stand alone predator comics are finally getting something great too.
I really should have re-read the first two series before this, I felt a bit lost on the flashbacks. That being said, I can't believe this is same artist as Life and Death.
Thiess has really stepped up his game and the coloring helps. Dark Horse is really putting out quality lately, the recent Alien nonsense not included.
Trade Paperback to be released on Sept 22nd.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506718132/ref=sr_1_28?crid=E45KA88BILGW&keywords=dark+horse+comics&qid=1581897690&s=books&sprefix=dark+horese+comi%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C381&sr=1-28
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Trade Paperback to be released on Sept 22nd.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506718132/ref=sr_1_28?crid=E45KA88BILGW&keywords=dark+horse+comics&qid=1581897690&s=books&sprefix=dark+horese+comi%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C381&sr=1-28
Nice felix! Even though I'm buying the individual comics I'll still purchase the trade.
Until then, issue #2 is coming March 18!
I'll have to wait for the paperback, unless I decide to buy the digital version of the single issues.
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Quote from: felix on Feb 17, 2020, 12:03:33 AM
Trade Paperback to be released on Sept 22nd.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1506718132/ref=sr_1_28?crid=E45KA88BILGW&keywords=dark+horse+comics&qid=1581897690&s=books&sprefix=dark+horese+comi%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C381&sr=1-28
Nice felix! Even though I'm buying the individual comics I'll still purchase the trade.
Until then, issue #2 is coming March 18!
I'm the same. I buy the singles as they come out because I'm impatient and I understand single sales contribute a lot towards perceived success from publisher POVs, then I upgrade to trades for ease of shelfing and give my singles away.
I apologise, but it isn't that a waste of money? For me its trade paperback collections all the way. It's easier to shelf and keep track that way.
Quote from: felix on Feb 18, 2020, 03:43:46 AM
I apologise, but it isn't that a waste of money? For me its trade paperback collections all the way. It's easier to shelf and keep track that way.
I guess to some yes. For me personally I look at it through the prism of a collector and possible future resale. While exceptions exist to the rule, individual comics usually hold the value and often go up in value, and the better the condition the higher the value. Reprints via trades, not so much, so the paperbacks receive my re-reads and subsequent wear, while the comics remain bag & boarded in pristine condition that sometimes I keep, sometimes I sell eventually on ebay. But that's just me. :)
Yeah I am the same only I keep all mine. I have a strong attachement too them, probably see them as a connection to my childhood.
I would say I have around 90% of all published and re-released singles and trades. I just got the Isolation comic recently, that took a lil time to get at a reasonable price. Also I found that mini HC AvP with the Swanland cover and the excellent recolored interior.
Quote from: felix on Feb 18, 2020, 03:43:46 AM
I apologise, but it isn't that a waste of money? For me its trade paperback collections all the way. It's easier to shelf and keep track that way.
Oh, for sure. But I like to give other fans who might have the money, or the opportunity a chance to experience them. I'm too impatient to wait for the trades, I like to support my franchises so I'd rather purchase than read on dodgy websites, and I prefer the ease of the trades when they're out.
I'm the same as Hicks. I buy the individual issues and then get the collected editions of most of the comics/arcs I follow. I end up giving the single issues to my little brother.
#4 covers
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Violence and carnage erupt! The Hunters await the opportunity to ambush the Predators, but a companion's past may cost them the hunt and their lives!
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CHRIS WARNER VARIANT COVER
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Thanks for posting molasar!
I'm not a fan of that particular variant cover but it's cool that Chris did that one.
Thanks, molasar!
Quote from: felix on Feb 18, 2020, 03:43:46 AM
I apologise, but it isn't that a waste of money? For me its trade paperback collections all the way. It's easier to shelf and keep track that way.
When I used to read a lot, I would purchase the single issues - but that's when I cared about having them for possible collection purposes. However, priorities have changed since then and these days I don't have the space nor organization to hold on to single issues. So I prefer to wait for the trade or go digital if I simply can't wait :)
Predator Hunters III #2 Exclusive Preview
https://wordofthenerdonline.com/predator-hunters-iii-2-exclusive-preview/
Had to read this digitally because my local comic book store was closed... and I hate reading a book like this digitally... but I found issue #2 to be very, very good.
I'm going to re-read this again before I make my comments, but I will say this for now that it is nice to finally know....
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Detective Schaefer's first name!
I too caved and bought the digital copy...
However it was another excellent issue. Really digging the whole thing from story to art.
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Detective Schaefer's first name!
Say it ain't so!
What is it?
Great issue. I love that most of it is just bar conversation allowing the reader to delve into these characters and see their relationships and how they interact. It's setting up the issues to come and it's all very cinematic. The sprinkled in witty lines were also actually witty versus corny, which is so rare. One even made me chuckle out loud. And I like the drug dealer past with Raphael not just being brushed aside here.
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I think this might be a young blood situation versus a bad blood. We'll have to wait to see how this relationship between the two Predators pan out. I also enjoyed the King Willie kill callback.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 18, 2020, 11:44:03 PM
I too caved and bought the digital copy...
However it was another excellent issue. Really digging the whole thing from story to art.
Definitely!
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 18, 2020, 08:24:51 PMSpoiler
Detective Schaefer's first name!
Say it ain't so!
What is it?
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John!
My local is still open but with altered hours of operation so I was able to grab a physical copy thankfully
Had to cave and go digital. While our county only has one coronavirus case confirmed we heard some rumors from friends they know who it is and they live near the shop. Guess walk-ins are out the window for the time being. When this blows over I guess I'll have the physicals waiting for me.
I liked it well enough. Kind of hard to believe it's taken all this time just to learn his first name though.
Indeed. Kind of anticlimactic now that we know. :D
This is one of those issues that you can tell Warner is writing these Hunter stories like a film versus individual issues, and we just watched another chunk of the movie.
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Cool reference to King Willie
Wow that was a really good issue!
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Schaefer and Ligachev are back!
Chris Warner and Brian Thies are doing such a great job on this one. If the story keeps up than this will be even better than Hunters 2 (which IMO was better than Hunters 1). Can't wait for issue 3!
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Mar 20, 2020, 08:35:50 PM
Wow that was a really good issue!
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Schaefer and Ligachev are back!
Chris Warner and Brian Thies are doing such a great job on this one. If the story keeps up than this will be even better than Hunters 2 (which IMO was better than Hunters 1). Can't wait for issue 3!
Yep, I found Hunters 2 better than Hunters 1 too!
Same here
Hunters I was good but Hunters II was f*cking awesome.
Hunters III is on track to be even better. Really digging the dynamic between the two preds, i'm crazy interested to see where that goes.
I agree. But Hunters 1 was still very much required and still excellent in its own right. I still stand by what I said in my review of it - it's like a pilot episode.
Its top teir for predator comics for sure.
I also re-read Predator L&D recently and enjoyed it more thsn the first time. Thies has some pretty sweet panels in that series.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Mar 21, 2020, 05:13:31 PM
I agree. But Hunters 1 was still very much required and still excellent in its own right. I still stand by what I said in my review of it - it's like a pilot episode.
A pilot episode is really a terrific description for it!
It was good to see Dutch's Brother back, after fire and stone I wasnt sure if it was a general reboot to the Predator comics cannon with Hunters then being the only cannon Predator comic but hey hes back so it's all considered DH Predator cannon.
-TJ88
Enjoyed #2! Continuing to love Thies artwork, and am very excited to see Hunters bringing in even more of the Predator comic past. I've been re-reading Cold War actually (well, the whole Essentials Vol.1) so was good timing!
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I am so glad Schaefer's name is something so average like that. I just think it works. Did anyone guess John earlier in the thread? Loved the King Willie callback as well. That was cool.
I wonder how the Predator dynamic is going to play out. Curious to see if it's a parent/child or teacher/student type situation. Though I did like the drowning thing. Need to add Hell and Hot Water to the re-read list after I've done with Dark River.
While I'm not a big fan of Cold War, I do like me some Predator: Hell & Hot Water!
I want to like cold war but it's always felt a little boring. To be honest i'm not the biggest fan of the whole Schaefer story line even if I have a strong nostalgic attachment to it. I do like the character and I just love the idea of bringing these older characters back and doing some better with them.
H&HW is a good one, still remember when that was released. I think I ordered the singles in the mail at the time lol. But that predator had a really cool aquatic design to his armor and weapons.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Mar 24, 2020, 02:16:40 PM
I want to like cold war but it's always felt a little boring. To be honest i'm not the biggest fan of the whole Schaefer story line even if I have a strong nostalgic attachment to it. I do like the character and I just love the idea of bringing these older characters back and doing some better with them.
H&HW is a good one, still remember when that was released. I think I ordered the singles in the mail at the time lol. But that predator had a really cool aquatic design to his armor and weapons.
Agreed. I found the whole Schaefer run rather lackluster, except for the great, great first issue of Concrete Jungle and portions of Dark River. Quite frankly, other than some diamonds in the rough like 1718 and H&HW, I'm more down than up on the entire Predator comic history. That's why I'm so thrilled with the Hunters series. Never to me has Predator comics been this consistently good! :)
Looks like #3 has been pushed back to May 13th.
Probably for the best, I'd say every physical location for comics is closed right now for being non-essential.
Yep.
I had been hoping we'd still get the digital releases myself. But alas.
After this they need an Ahab solo story.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 02, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
After this they need an Ahab solo story.
But first we need Mandy Graves' story in Hunters IV! :)
I'd like to see more of Mandy and Enoch. They seemed to be setting something up there and I'd love to see that play out.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 02, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
After this they need an Ahab solo story.
Oh yeah. His story is the best in F&S
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 02, 2020, 12:37:06 AM
After this they need an Ahab solo story.
Ahab story, all the way. I'd love to read an actual novel about him, but a graphic novel will do.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_ePMVoB5en/?igshid=12a0q9ve372yx
In certain angles like that one, this helmet looks so cool to me. Awesome!!!
Sales data for March/#2 is out. Combined sales of 7,836‬. Slight dip from combined sales of #1 at 9,917. But 7000 is around par for most Aliens/Predator singles.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 29, 2020, 04:46:42 PM
Sales data for March/#2 is out. Combined sales of 7,836‬. Slight dip from combined sales of #1 at 9,917. But 7000 is around par for most Aliens/Predator singles.
Not surprised with the dip for #2. My local comic book store closed before it came out, and it's still closed. My #2 issue is still waiting to be picked up.... I think? :-\
I have my physical issue now. I still have the digital issue to use if im bored away from home i guess.
Love this series.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Apr 29, 2020, 06:57:02 PM
I have my physical issue now. I still have the digital issue to use if im bored away from home i guess.
Love this series.
Worthy to have in both formats I think! :)
An update from Dark Horse Comics website.
They removed pre-orders for following issues but its TPB version is still available for pre-order with October 14, 2020 release date.
Quote from: molasar on Jun 09, 2020, 01:46:38 AM
An update from Dark Horse Comics website.
They removed pre-orders for following issues but its TPB version is still available for pre-order with October 14, 2020 release date.
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I feel your pain, brother
Does anyone know whats going on with the release schedule for alien and predator comics? Are they just going to forget about the single issues and only release the tpb's?
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 15, 2020, 10:14:40 PM
Does anyone know whats going on with the release schedule for alien and predator comics? Are they just going to forget about the single issues and only release the tpb's?
Most people go through Diamond distribution and due to the pandemic they've had to shut down (people getting sick and being non-essential) so you can't really ship anything especially if where you're shipping there's nobody to even receive product.
I personally don't know what Darkhorse's release schedule is but this is a problem right now across the board with publishers trying to figure out release schedules even if tentative.
We really wouldn't be having this issue right now had the industry been digital. But since Diamond has such an iron grip on things and every time we peek into digital the shop owners throw a fit here we are. Now few can get product out and it's hurting if not killing the industry despite the fact that creatives can work from home.
Killing the industry is my biggest fear. I don't know how my local comic book store will survive this.
My local comic book store told me they think things will start to get back on track come July. We'll see what happens but I am dying for the final two issues of both AVP and Hunters 3
Quote from: SuperiorIronman on Jun 16, 2020, 02:46:55 PM
Quote from: 426Buddy on Jun 15, 2020, 10:14:40 PM
Does anyone know whats going on with the release schedule for alien and predator comics? Are they just going to forget about the single issues and only release the tpb's?
Most people go through Diamond distribution and due to the pandemic they've had to shut down (people getting sick and being non-essential) so you can't really ship anything especially if where you're shipping there's nobody to even receive product.
I personally don't know what Darkhorse's release schedule is but this is a problem right now across the board with publishers trying to figure out release schedules even if tentative.
We really wouldn't be having this issue right now had the industry been digital. But since Diamond has such an iron grip on things and every time we peek into digital the shop owners throw a fit here we are. Now few can get product out and it's hurting if not killing the industry despite the fact that creatives can work from home.
Yeah thats what I thought but now I'm seeing new comics being released. I assumed that thing were moving again but nothing on the A/P series.
Hrrm. :-\
Has anyone else in the UK been able to pre-order the trade from Amazon at all? It's been saying it's "temporarily out of stock" for a while now and I'm getting a little worried that they just might never get it in at all, given that it's supposed to be out only a month from now and Dark Horse aren't going to be able to sell any more of their comics from just over a month after that.
Bite your tongue!!!! US Amazon is accepting pre-orders, so hopefully there's nothing to sound the alarm over. :)
Yeah I'll just get it from the US Amazon if it comes to that. It's just a bit concerning to me that the UK one has been listed as out of stock for several days now when it seems like things don't tend to be listed as "temporarily" that way for more than a day or so in most cases (at least that I've seen in the past).
Forbidden Planet has it up for pre-order.
https://forbiddenplanet.com/302923-predator-hunters-iii/
It's still up for pre-order on Amazon Brazil too.
They could so easily have released issues #3 and #4
especially if they carried on with Alien: The Original Screenplay
but thats just me....i like logical solutions lol
Brian Thies seems to think it's out.
My understanding is that the physical trade is out in the direct market, but the digital and other physical outlets are in a couple of weeks.
Dark horse's site list it a buyable.
My physical copy hasn't shipped yet. My Amazon pre-order is still waiting to be filled.
I recall going through the same things with Predator: Stalking Shadows where Mark Morris said it was out a week or so before Amazon said it was being released.
It's on sale here:
https://www.tfaw.com/predator-hunters-iii-tpb.html?qt=dhprofile1-3004488&utm_source=darkhorse&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=darkhorse_buy&utm_term=buy%2BPredator%253A%2BHunters%2BIII%2BTPB
Time to cancel my order with Amazon.
Edit:
ORDERED with Tfaw!
Another edit:
It shipped today! Tracking says I'll have it Monday the 9th, while Amazon still says it will be available on the 17th.
Thank you Brian Thies!
Damn, I'll have to wait for amazon :'(
I hope it's a good ending to this amazing series.
Not reached my shores yet. :'(
Yeah, that's a bummer...
Somehow I'd forgotten to preorder this.
Ordered mine ;D
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 06, 2020, 08:52:30 AM
Not reached my shores yet. :'(
The UK Amazon finally has some listing up from third-party sellers. I just went ahead and ordered mine, though I'm going to keep from reading it until Christmas since I figure I've waited long enough at this point that I can stand to wait a little longer.
But huzzah, it's happening!!
Why Christmas?
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 10, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
Why Christmas?
Because it's the most wonderful time of the year.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 10, 2020, 11:11:37 AM
Why Christmas?
It'll make a nice Alien/Predator Christmas present combo with the Alien: The Original Screenplay hardcover that should hopefully be arriving right before then.
I called around a couple of local comic shops and they're all getting it and AVP on Nov 18. They also said Dark Horse's website is often wrong on release dates. I'm so impatient!!!
Quote from: Xiggz456 on Nov 10, 2020, 12:53:53 PM
I called around a couple of local comic shops and they're all getting it and AVP on Nov 18. They also said Dark Horse's website is often wrong on release dates. I'm so impatient!!!
Dark Horse & Brian Thies were right here. Mine arrived yesterday. I plan to dive in tonight!
(https://i.ibb.co/BjWJx56/20201110-082500.jpg)
Nice! Let us know what you think when you're done reading it.
It pains me to say this, and I have to give it a second read, but my first impression is not good.
The first half (first two issues) is a great start, but the second half just falls apart. Sometimes confusing Predator behavior. The conclusion requires two pages of Google Spanish translation. No payoff with certaincharacters. Emulates Predator 2 and AvP a bit.
Not thrilled that this is how we concluded Dark Horse Predator comics. Hopefully a second read will dull my initial disappointment, because I just adore Hunters I and II. A little bummed. :-\
Do the artists ever depict them as crabators?
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 11, 2020, 04:53:20 AM
It pains me to say this, and I have to give it a second read, but my first impression is not good.
Not the feedback I was hoping for. I assume the artwork was good, though? Sometimes I just flip through comics for the artwork, like a kid.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 11, 2020, 05:27:16 AM
Do the artists ever depict them as crabators?
I'm not a fan of ''Crabators'' myself.
Damn, sad to hear that :-[
I'll thrown in my two cents after I read it. Still waiting for my amazon pre order.
Okay, got to read it again and tried to look at it with fresh eyes and remove expectations, especially the expectations with our old returning characters and what I'd hope to happen considering this was the last Dark Horse Predator release.
Going back again, it was better the second time around, but still not up there with Hunters I and II. I'd maybe call Hunters III the "Godfather 3" of the series. Some great stuff in there, but not so great too.
I'd revise my statement and say the first three issues/chapters of the story are the good stuff and it falls apart for me in the fourth for the reasons already stated in my previous post.
I'll be real interested in discussing spoilers. I'm really curious everyone's take on Predator behavior, etc. Until then, I wait.
Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 11, 2020, 05:27:16 AM
Do the artists ever depict them as crabators?
Ha. No. Thankfully my crustacean sense didn't tingle that much. Thies' Predator face art comes across 20% abstract anyway, so with him it's hard to guage such things. Twas fine I think.
I felt little love towards this spidery version of the Predator though, in this variant cover.
(https://www.previewsworld.com/SiteImage/MainImage/STL148996.jpg)
Quote from: Gr33n M4n on Nov 11, 2020, 05:49:02 AM
Not the feedback I was hoping for. I assume the artwork was good, though? Sometimes I just flip through comics for the artwork, like a kid.
Well art is subjective but I overall liked it. I fell in love so much with one of Thies' splash pages in Predator Hunters III issue one that I purchased the original art early this year. Thies really has a gift for Predator bio-masks! The only thing I'm not a fan of really in the Hunters III art is the more the story progresses, the more sideways mouths we see.
(https://i.ibb.co/Y881MC3/3004484p2-1.png)
But again, it's subjective. :)
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 11, 2020, 01:34:14 PM
Damn, sad to hear that :-[
I'll thrown in my two cents after I read it. Still waiting for my amazon pre order.
Maybe my take will lower your guys' expectation / anticipation level and you'll end up loving it. Can't wait to discuss it with you all!
Pretty bummed by your take voodoo, I was expecting this one to be the best of the three, and I loved the first two.
Guess my expectations were too high, hopefully my copy arrives soon.
Quote from: 426Buddy on Nov 12, 2020, 09:34:29 PM
Pretty bummed by your take voodoo, I was expecting this one to be the best of the three, and I loved the first two.
Guess my expectations were too high, hopefully my copy arrives soon.
Yeah, I'm still a bit bummed. Hopefully for others? me lowering expectations is just what the doctor ordered for an enjoyable read. We'll see. :)
I hate sideways mouths >:(
Ok, folks, I've read it. Sadly... I'm with Voodoo on this one.
Spoiler
I couldn't understand sh*t of what the Predators were doing when they interacted with each other. Why the hell did they fight each other so much? Why did they hunt together if they would behave like that? And near the end one the Predators wanted to blow himself up after taking a couple of knife wounds... you can easily survive that, buddy, use your damn medkit.
And the humans... John Schaefer and Ligachev! They're back! And they don't add much. John is at the same place he was at the end of Dark River, he doesn't know what became of Dutch, he is still trying to find out. I guess he learned nothing from General Phillips after all. It was nice to see him, but that was all. Ligachev is there as the opposing force also after the Predators, so Stargazer is out of this one. But nothing ever comes out of the story. I feel they could have used an extra issue for this one.
So yeah, a sad way to finish Dark Horse's Predator comics, and also not a good conclusion to the Hunters series. I hope this isn't the end, and that Marvel continues with a fourth volume for this series.
Edit: I forgot to mention the good stuff. It's not all bad. I liked the art, and the action scenes were pretty cool overall. The setting of the story is also very nice, with the Mayan ruins and underground caves. The story also starts good, but the second half is just out there.
Wow what the hell was that? Got mine in today. :laugh:
They really dropped the ball in the second half, such a waste. The art is pretty great and the story starts out good but it completely tanks by the end.
What happened?
Honestly, I think the lenght of the series didn't allow for the story to be properly fleshed out. Everything feels rushed. It really could have used a fifth issue.
Non-spoiler review verdict (despite spoiler tag): Wasted potential.
Spoiler
I don't feel this story follows through on any of its premise. The Humans don't contribute anything for a group who are Predator survivors, the Predators are baffling towards the end, and I have no idea the reason why Herrera is even here. Nobody really contributes anything to the plot which means that the narrative essentially goes nowhere. Even Schaffer still has no idea what Dutch is doing. I guess that can't be helped given we didn't know anything as a community until earlier this year..., but it's November and Dutch returned in May, we could've gotten at least a line of dialogue.
The art is..., alright. I don't love it but I don't hate it either. I like the design of these Predators being very Jungle Hunter but having unique details. That all being said the Humans look a bit too young for older combatants. The side mouth also looks bad. This isn't Sonic, put the mouth in the right place.
Really is a shame this is how the solo line goes out. C-
It's passable but for the last Predator story under Darkhorse its disappointing especially given its premise.
Finally read it! I had fun with it but I think it could've used one more issue to further flesh out the narrative. I loved the art though especially any panel with a predator.
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I'm guessing it was a father son dynamic going on with the preds. We haven't seen that since Batman VS Predator 3. Also there seemed to be some nods to AVP's Mayan connection which I found cool! Wish the Hunters team had to face off against the preds but the second half of the series really became Ligachev's story (although I guess technically she's a Predator hunter as well).
All in all I've thoroughly enjoyed following the Hunters team through the three volumes (13 issues). Here's to hoping we haven't seen the end of them!
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 18, 2020, 12:21:28 PM
Honestly, I think the lenght of the series didn't allow for the story to be properly fleshed out. Everything feels rushed. It really could have used a fifth issue.
Well, I thought Hunters II was fantastic and that was only four issues I believe. I just think Warner had no clear direction on where to take the next chapter. That's how it felt to me at least. Not the way I hoped we go out. :-\
When I initially read it I only skimmed through the second half of the story. Now I've had time to sit down and do a full re-read and it isn't as terrible as it first seemed but its not good.
Spoiler
It starts out nice continuing on from the last story with Stargazer releasing Herrera for unknown reasons. We get a sweet predator in his backstory here. It brings in some old characters for a set up that seems like its going to have an explosive finale. It seemed interesting when the predators were arguing, at first I was thinking that one was becoming a bad blood perhaps? But it wasn't really coming across clearly and then seemed muddled by the end. The story just never pays off on any of the threads started in the setup. Really it falls apart in the last issue for me though. Schaefer runs out into the jungle and fights the bad blood in one of the weakest predator battles ever. The predator is literally only stabbed twice causing him to throw Schaefer out of frame. Then that's it, suddenly the fight is over and battle with the Russians is over. The other predator comes back and helps the wounded predator escape up a pyramid to wait to for rescue by their ship.Then the bad one tries to self destruct instead so the other predator just kills him. I just felt this whole portion made no sense, why would they try to escape after two stabs with a knife. I mean look at what the predator in Hunters II went through, now that predator was epic.
In the end Schaefer and the Russians didn't do much and neither did the rest our predator hunter team.
The one thing I did love was the art. There are some just fantastic predator panels in this and that helped elevate the story a little. But in the end I was really disappointed in this one... By far the weakest of the three.
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 17, 2020, 08:34:16 PM
So yeah, a sad way to finish Dark Horse's Predator comics, and also not a good conclusion to the Hunters series. I hope this isn't the end, and that Marvel continues with a fourth volume for this series.
I think the problem is this wasn't intended or written as an end... It's very much another part in a longer story that we wont see played out.
I also think it was a disappointment, but only because of that. Because they'll be no further pay-off, so much so that most of what was done within the series feels pointless, I guess. We get these legacy characters back and nothing really of note seems to be done with them here, other than reintroductions. I'm not sure what the point of Herera being brought back was, because it didn't feel like much pay-off either.
Completely agree re: the Predator interactions.
Spoiler
At first I thought copper head was supposed to be a younger being trained, but that seems to flip around towards the end. I just didn't get what the intent was here? To show a divide that was going to be played on later? We didn't even get characters witnessing and speculating on the reasons (did Herera even see and mention the end? I don't think he did.)
That said, I continue to really love Brian Thies artwork, especially with Wes Dzioba on colours. Probably a 6/10 for me. It wasn't awful, it just feels a bit wasted.
Very bummed this went the way it did. Before III, Hunters was my go to reading recommendation for the casuals. High on a pedestal it stood. :-\
Got the trade for Christmas and just read it earlier. I agree that it's probably the weakest of the three volumes, but I think I enjoyed it more than it sounds like most people here did.
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It was cool seeing Detective Schaefer again after all these years and finally getting a first name, not to mention Ligachev! I knew ahead of time that the former was returning, but I had no idea she'd be back too, so that was a cool surprise since Cold War was one of the first Predator comics I ever read back in the day. I do think that another issue would have been nice as people have said, since I would have liked to have seen more interaction between her and Schaefer and just had the back half of the story fleshed out a little more (I actually checked at one point to see which how many issues I'd read as it felt like there wasn't going to be enough left to finish everything off), but it was cool to see them both back even if they didn't really end in a different place than they began.
Certainly it would have been nice if there had been some update on Dutch now that Hunting Grounds has bought him back and given us the first official post-movie details on him since......ever......but I'm not surprised there wasn't any sort of cross-company coordination going on there. It does make Dutch seem like a bit of an asshole though. :P
I agree that the ending portion was the weakest, which in part felt like it was because of the subversion of what we'd come to expect from the previous volumes, with one or more of the characters engaging in a big fight with the Predator(s) and ultimately beating them. We got that to start with, but then things got turned on their ear by essentially having the Predators deal with themselves without the main characters having to do all that much.
So yeah while it did feel like a bit anti-climactic as a result, I appreciated that it went in a different direction, since as cool as the first two volumes were I was already thinking to myself "and this is the part where we see the Predator wrecking a bunch of guys and throwing one of their quotes back at them etc." at various points, so I liked that it mixed things up there.
I assume Herrera's actual dialogue was unimportant in terms of the reader fully comprehending what he was saying, so that part didn't bother me too much either. I do think he somewhat disappeared into the background as the story went on so that Schaefer could take centre stage though, and that contributed a bit to the ending not feeling as strong as those of the first couple of volumes.
As for the Predators themselves, I just assumed that one of them was a jerk! :D It seemed like "Copper Head" as Hicks called him disliked that he went after that third diver and killed her when she wasn't entirely within the realms of "legitimate prey". Whether there was tension between them before that or not who knows, but it reminded me of Broken Tusk vs his "student" in the original AVP where one Predator was just an asshole and needed to be put in his place. So I had no problem with that.
I also liked the twist that there were two. In retrospect it was obvious since the masks in the various covers weren't the same, but I just took that as down to artistic license, and I didn't notice the one that jumped out of the water originally being different, which it clearly is in retrospect.
I also liked the artwork, especially any time the Predators showed up or we got an action scene. They got as close to an AVP movie nod as I would have liked them to get. A clear reference but nothing overt. And I dug the "King Willie" homage too.
I think like Hicks said, one of the main problems is just that this wasn't intended to be an ending, just the next chapter in an ongoing story that we're unfortunately more than likely never going to see now, which sucks even more because Hunters 4 would surely have been focused on Mandy, and that could have been something I'd have liked to have seen.
So yeah overall I don't think it's as strong as either of the first two volumes, but it's still good, and if this is the end of Hunters as it unfortunately almost assuredly is, then I'm glad this turned out to be such a solid run overall.
So yeah, come on Marvel! Hunters 4 if you wouldn't mind, please! :laugh:
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/2021/03/08/predator-conflicts-returning-characters-confusion-reviewing-predator-hunters-3-avp-galaxy-podcast-124/
Podcast review is up!
Yay!
https://twitter.com/FnVoodooMagic/status/1370386128226942979
Great job as always boys! I'm glad I wasn't the only person who was a little confused when I finished Hunters 3. The confusing relationship between the predator hunters made me have to reread certain sections. I actually thought I missed a page or two but nope. I also felt the inclusion of detective Schafer was pointless and really lackluster. You guys definitely nailed it with the thought that perhaps this story was going to continue and this abrupt and lackluster ending was because of dark horse was finished with alien and predator. I hope the marvel entries hold up. I just feel that the predator and alien will be overshadowed with whatever hero they have it pitted against. Do you think there will be original stories simply about alien and predator with no "hero"?
Quote from: GreybackElder on Mar 15, 2021, 10:41:45 PM
I just feel that the predator and alien will be overshadowed with whatever hero they have it pitted against. Do you think there will be original stories simply about alien and predator with no "hero"?
While I'm sure the crossover is inevitable, we know Alien's debut series is solo, so I wouldn't worry about that just yet. I'm sure Predator's will be too once it's announced.
Glad you enjoyed it :)
Yeah, I really can't see them kicking off either series with an in-house crossover.
A good podcast that pretty much covers everything there is to say. Can't really disagree with anything that was said. I still like it overall, but it's for sure the weakest of the three Hunters stories and it's a shame it didn't manage to stick the landing, both of this individual tale and also of Dark Horse's tenure with the Predator franchise as a whole.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 23, 2020, 09:53:28 AM
Quote from: Katanu on Nov 17, 2020, 08:34:16 PM
So yeah, a sad way to finish Dark Horse's Predator comics, and also not a good conclusion to the Hunters series. I hope this isn't the end, and that Marvel continues with a fourth volume for this series.
I think the problem is this wasn't intended or written as an end... It's very much another part in a longer story that we wont see played out.
I also think it was a disappointment, but only because of that. Because they'll be no further pay-off, so much so that most of what was done within the series feels pointless, I guess. We get these legacy characters back and nothing really of note seems to be done with them here, other than reintroductions. I'm not sure what the point of Herera being brought back was, because it didn't feel like much pay-off either.
Completely agree re: the Predator interactions. Spoiler
At first I thought copper head was supposed to be a younger being trained, but that seems to flip around towards the end. I just didn't get what the intent was here? To show a divide that was going to be played on later? We didn't even get characters witnessing and speculating on the reasons (did Herera even see and mention the end? I don't think he did.)
That said, I continue to really love Brian Thies artwork, especially with Wes Dzioba on colours. Probably a 6/10 for me. It wasn't awful, it just feels a bit wasted.
Not sure if this helps the relationship interpretation but I did a little YauTrans on the few spoken interactions we got...
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Apologies to those listening at home for the fruity language.
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So... still just as ambiguous, but maybe relationship-wise I'd go with siblings or perhaps estranged father and son really failing at their family bonding hunt. Though perhaps not as bad as that Yaut dad and his teenage son Tristan from that College Humor short.
Ah, he actually used the Predator font for that? Is that literally everything from the series?
What did you use as a translation key? I didn't see any matches with the digital font.
Yeah, I compared it to a few translators and it didn't line up either, so we'd love to see the translation key you're using SpaceKase. And we'll done! 👏
Those translation keys are another of my Predator pet peeves.
The idea their alphabet would somehow correspond exactly to the Latin one is just dumb in the extreme.
Even staying on Earth, the Chinese alphabet doesn't directly correspond like that because it was developed completely independently.
I don't think anyone thinks that's what's actually happening, though. It's just a fun, easy way to write dialogue for Predators that's more than just mushing a keyboard.
There are definitely people online who take it way too seriously.
Yeah, I never have been bothered by it, personally. It can be fun for the fans to write messages in the way of the Yautja.
Now seeing it translated on film this way is another matter entirely, and honestly something I wouldn't put past Fred & Dekker. But to be fair to those two, I don't recall them even doing this, i.e. the Upgrade Predator wasn't being translated one symbol per English letter.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 18, 2021, 10:36:24 AM
What did you use as a translation key? I didn't see any matches with the digital font.
That's literally all the Yautja chat from Hunters III, just as spare as the rest of story. The font they use is Blambot's Xeno Tribal BB. Its most egregious use is all throughout the 3rd chapter of Fire & Stone, the worst chapter in what would (in my opinion) otherwise be a completely awesome epic crossover. But like the interminable Life Day Wookiespeak from the Star Wars holiday special, it's just endless streams of nonsense, making one wonder, why of why did anyone think this was a good idea?
However, it's used to Very good and hilarious effect in the AvP Judge Dredd crossover Slice and Dice. They had a lot of fun with that one and I may put the translation up here somewhere at some point.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 18, 2021, 11:45:33 AM
Yeah, I compared it to a few translators and it didn't line up either, so we'd love to see the translation key you're using SpaceKase. And we'll done! 👏
Thanks man! Here's a quick ref that I like to use, (https://www.wfonts.com/sample-character/data/2016/01/03/xeno-tribal/XenoTribalBB.ttf.png)
It's a transparent png so you may want to save it so you can zoom in. What I *really* want to find is the font for that language of the four-armed alien barbarian dudes from Kaus Borealis in F&S. But no dice yet.
Awesome! You da man SpaceKase! Thanks!
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 18, 2021, 04:39:26 PM
Awesome! You da man SpaceKase! Thanks!
Thanks, dude! You guys are awesome too, the pod cast was great even if it was the sad swan song to the Dark Horse era. Man, I am still in mourning over that, and not just a little cringey about what may be coming down the pipe from Marvel. I guess we'll find out for sure in less than a week here... Cautious Optimism.
Thanks for sharing that! Never seen it before. It is interesting seeing the Predator glyph writing rather than the digital language. And much appreciated for the podcast feedback.
Quote from: RidgeTop on Mar 18, 2021, 09:50:24 PM
Thanks for sharing that! Never seen it before. It is interesting seeing the Predator glyph writing rather than the digital language. And much appreciated for the podcast feedback.
Always man, I love listening to you guys geek out. I hope to participate sometime, especially if it's a comic or novel related video or audio round table or something. I just saw the cover art variants for Marvel's new Predator series and they look really gorgeous, my cautious optimism is growing less cautious by the day.
Also, check out Slice and Dice again, if you get the chance. Well worth it. Comedy gold.
That translation fits entirely with what I figured was going on based on the context of that first scene. The one with the brown helmet was clearly pissed that the other one had killed someone who was unarmed, and that animosity continued for the rest of the story.
Not entirely sure how a couple of stabs would have warranted the silver-masked one to try and do what he did at the end though, but the reasoning for them being pissed with each other at least I thought was pretty clear.
I wish it shed more light than it does. :-\ Although it won't fix its issues, we really need to ask Chris one day what he was trying to convey.
I had approached him about coming on the show in the past but he was too busy at the time, and then the swap over happened and I wasn't too sure about asking him back on at this moment in time.
Yeah, I get that (unfortunately).
Will have to try again after some arbitrary period of time that feels right.
I don't know if you guys noticed but I saw something in this I've never seen in a predator comic before, a Yautja weeping.
It wasn't super clear to me until I stared at the panels for a while, but once it kills its hunt mate, it's emotionally distraught and crying over what it just did, literally. Herrera witnesses this and shows compassion instead of killing it, and then when the rest of the fam shows up, the sad Yaut is lead away supported by its clan mate in heartbroken Rancor Keeper fashion.
I almost thought mother and child, but maybe space lover isn't too far off the mark. Regardless, there's a distinct deep and personal relationship there. Going back and just reading the pages with their story alone, few that there are, it almost seems like the silver masked one is an upstart undisciplined young blood joking around in the cave, relishing in the kill more than the hunt, more thrilled about gadgets than learning about tradition or technique. Willing to kill itself and everyone else after barely putting up a fight. Then ultimately, becoming the mentor's greatest failure. Es possiblé.
Quote from: SpaceKase on Mar 20, 2021, 03:43:06 AM
I don't know if you guys noticed but I saw something in this I've never seen in a predator comic before, a Yautja weeping.
It wasn't super clear to me until I stared at the panels for a while, but once it kills its hunt mate, it's emotionally distraught and crying over what it just did, literally. Herrera witnesses this and shows compassion instead of killing it, and then when the rest of the fam shows up, the sad Yaut is lead away supported by its clan mate in heartbroken Rancor Keeper fashion.
Hmm. Wasn't the other Predator still wearing his bio-mask
and it was raining? Sure it seemed to be mourning his friend/partner/parent/child ala Wolf in AvPR but it would be awfully silly to me if I learned that a) Predators cry and b) Predators could cry through their bio-masks. :-\
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2021, 01:19:58 PM
Hmm. Wasn't the other Predator still wearing his bio-mask and it was raining? Sure it seemed to be mourning his friend/partner/parent/child ala Wolf in AvPR but it would be awfully silly to me if I learned that a) Predators cry and b) Predators could cry through their bio-masks. :-\
Oh, I wasn't referring to human tears. And I don't remember that bit in AvPR, but the body language here appears more deliberate and intense than casual remorse. More specifically I'm referring to the consistent unique sounds it's making when Herrera approaches from behind, distinctly different than the sounds given to the one who was wounded and coughing.
(https://bl6pap004files.storage.live.com/y4mqnrRxMVL5v1xlF4Rviv6jTn2WwDzptEyjCw2at9ogFGrq-UGPvL6WeEfcroGsgFTNYthBXHd7xQkU91ULJ0lwZ2b5iuqGPvh_xLSCe5nQfnvgqHbdbqIZ2ahhCwbSilVpOw7gwfZrxKui3-0QPDWTGY7eYHCN4E0gYVX-RPp4_-yBQc5wpSXBWa3n9CQWugT?width=256&height=232&cropmode=none)
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Then it doesn't even look back at Herrera when he approaches, and barely even reacts to ship that comes, though it's surely well aware of both; that just strikes me as so damn despondent.
(https://bl6pap004files.storage.live.com/y4msFVCt0OkvD8XL8NJuO8sck6_gzrTmZbi-lq2Cl2-ta7ibPaf7h2syW4CtTpbp4x3Na9uyMKjIwMeXj8ABk9JWxnooB30-xMVrXTMpoEGoQ1S2ehNWSIfW95v_tPNgIV9PXas63Yzek-m0I78LYw-KyfXftDj-as_XncoP8qkL-B_xRLeaF9rdSuXphwDysW3?width=660&height=211&cropmode=none)
I may be off the mark, but personally the longer I look this is what I see, your mileage may vary, we have so little to go on.
(https://bl6pap004files.storage.live.com/y4mcZoADXCka4oOckNWxKqmluhuaV31CW_C-5jwF9vBABs71UugdhjZmeu2JMQoN6uiGaONN99r9JVcAcKhrYwZGlcp78DjARRBMDq54qXjT9odAIPuUrOy2LE0TzLndtp4gPbF_s4QFsMhBmx6niSFa-iRWbLmdfexYm_5goBMeFe7P6ryKF7KtzsFf6VnbDA_?width=660&height=251&cropmode=none)
Quote from: SpaceKase on Mar 20, 2021, 11:23:42 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Mar 20, 2021, 01:19:58 PM
Hmm. Wasn't the other Predator still wearing his bio-mask and it was raining? Sure it seemed to be mourning his friend/partner/parent/child ala Wolf in AvPR but it would be awfully silly to me if I learned that a) Predators cry and b) Predators could cry through their bio-masks. :-\
Oh, I wasn't referring to human tears. And I don't remember that bit in AvPR, but the body language here appears more deliberate and intense than casual remorse. More specifically I'm referring to the consistent unique sounds it's making when Herrera approaches from behind, distinctly different than the sounds given to the one who was wounded and coughing.
(https://bl6pap004files.storage.live.com/y4mqnrRxMVL5v1xlF4Rviv6jTn2WwDzptEyjCw2at9ogFGrq-UGPvL6WeEfcroGsgFTNYthBXHd7xQkU91ULJ0lwZ2b5iuqGPvh_xLSCe5nQfnvgqHbdbqIZ2ahhCwbSilVpOw7gwfZrxKui3-0QPDWTGY7eYHCN4E0gYVX-RPp4_-yBQc5wpSXBWa3n9CQWugT?width=256&height=232&cropmode=none)
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Then it doesn't even look back at Herrera when he approaches, and barely even reacts to ship that comes, though it's surely well aware of both; that just strikes me as so damn despondent.
(https://bl6pap004files.storage.live.com/y4msFVCt0OkvD8XL8NJuO8sck6_gzrTmZbi-lq2Cl2-ta7ibPaf7h2syW4CtTpbp4x3Na9uyMKjIwMeXj8ABk9JWxnooB30-xMVrXTMpoEGoQ1S2ehNWSIfW95v_tPNgIV9PXas63Yzek-m0I78LYw-KyfXftDj-as_XncoP8qkL-B_xRLeaF9rdSuXphwDysW3?width=660&height=211&cropmode=none)
I may be off the mark, but personally the longer I look this is what I see, your mileage may vary, we have so little to go on.
(https://bl6pap004files.storage.live.com/y4mcZoADXCka4oOckNWxKqmluhuaV31CW_C-5jwF9vBABs71UugdhjZmeu2JMQoN6uiGaONN99r9JVcAcKhrYwZGlcp78DjARRBMDq54qXjT9odAIPuUrOy2LE0TzLndtp4gPbF_s4QFsMhBmx6niSFa-iRWbLmdfexYm_5goBMeFe7P6ryKF7KtzsFf6VnbDA_?width=660&height=251&cropmode=none)
Oh, sorry about that, you meant the "haff" noises. Yeah, possibly, I can see one interpreting it that way as crying.
For me, the Copper masked Predator was just stabbed with gauntlet blades and was bleeding, plus whatever fire it took from the teams, so it making "haff" noises didn't seem to stray that far from the "kaff" and other various noises we heard wounded Predators make.
(https://i.ibb.co/F5B3MTN/IMG-20210321-122612.jpg)
So I still don't take that as weeping or crying, but rather possibly weasing or just breathing heavy, but that's just me. :) But clearly he wasn't happy about doing the killing of his kin.
And here's Wolf in AvPR taking a moment to mourn his fallen comrade:
(https://i.ibb.co/Sfc4Fng/20210321-102513-2-1.gif)
Nice call on that AvP R moment, it's been too long.
Quote from: SpaceKase on Mar 21, 2021, 08:05:20 PM
Nice call on that AvP R moment, it's been too long.
I'm one of its few fans, so I know it well. 8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRdVJV
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Dec 02, 2021, 08:58:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRdVJV
Weird. I can't seem to play that embedded video Hicks so I reposted it here: