Quote from: Tetsujin on Sep 30, 2018, 08:07:24 PMHoly f**k I want to see that movie instead! :P
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Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 01, 2018, 02:08:01 AMI hope not, this movie deserves to flop, and i dont wanna see the franchice as the iron predator suit vs the dna vams from space...
That's great news. China will likely ensure "The Predator" reaches profitability.👍
Quote from: spinksy on Oct 01, 2018, 09:17:55 AMPredators wasnt released in China in 2010.
I've been trying to find the box office numbers for Predators from China alone but haven't been able to find a definite answer.
should hopefully make a fair bit there though?
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 01, 2018, 09:59:26 AMQuote from: spinksy on Oct 01, 2018, 09:17:55 AMPredators wasnt released in China in 2010.
I've been trying to find the box office numbers for Predators from China alone but haven't been able to find a definite answer.
should hopefully make a fair bit there though?
A China release won't "save" the movie, but more money at this point is always a good thing. It won't be profitable in it's theatrical run, unless it makes a 150 million in China, but China could actually push this thing, so that it can make some money for the studio in it's home release, which these movies sell very good on.
That being said, it's at a 115 million now, which is actually pretty good. I just wish they didn't waste as much money on this, with the reshoots at night, the scrapped sets and two fully functional hero Predator suits... this movie could have saved at least 20 million.
Either way, we won't get a sequel to this, expect another movie in 5 - 8 years in a full blown reboot with another studio. Disney won't make a Predator movie, they will sell the rights.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 01, 2018, 03:21:09 PMQuote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 01, 2018, 09:59:26 AMQuote from: spinksy on Oct 01, 2018, 09:17:55 AMPredators wasnt released in China in 2010.
I've been trying to find the box office numbers for Predators from China alone but haven't been able to find a definite answer.
should hopefully make a fair bit there though?
A China release won't "save" the movie, but more money at this point is always a good thing. It won't be profitable in it's theatrical run, unless it makes a 150 million in China, but China could actually push this thing, so that it can make some money for the studio in it's home release, which these movies sell very good on.
That being said, it's at a 115 million now, which is actually pretty good. I just wish they didn't waste as much money on this, with the reshoots at night, the scrapped sets and two fully functional hero Predator suits... this movie could have saved at least 20 million.
Either way, we won't get a sequel to this, expect another movie in 5 - 8 years in a full blown reboot with another studio. Disney won't make a Predator movie, they will sell the rights.
"Terminator Genisys" (which didn't even clear 100 Million domestically), practically broke even thanks to China, and China was the only driving force in getting a "Pacific Rim" sequel greenlit. However, in regards to our favorite green blooded alien, I really have no clue how "The Predator" will be received there. I would love it to do well there and recover, not necessarily for a direct sequel, but for the studio to recognize enough viability still exists in the franchise to greenlight another film. Sure Paramount cancelled the Genisys trilogy, but saw enough success with "Terminator Genisys" to give a new Terminator another go.
As a consolation prize, I would love a Predator series on a streaming service, but since Disney acquired the rights and are kicking off their own streaming service, I really wonder if they would consider Predator (and Alien for that matter) a good fit.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 01, 2018, 09:59:26 AMI'm hoping Disney will create another studio for its mature movies. Maybe a netflix series or somthing.Quote from: spinksy on Oct 01, 2018, 09:17:55 AMPredators wasnt released in China in 2010.
I've been trying to find the box office numbers for Predators from China alone but haven't been able to find a definite answer.
should hopefully make a fair bit there though?
A China release won't "save" the movie, but more money at this point is always a good thing. It won't be profitable in it's theatrical run, unless it makes a 150 million in China, but China could actually push this thing, so that it can make some money for the studio in it's home release, which these movies sell very good on.
That being said, it's at a 115 million now, which is actually pretty good. I just wish they didn't waste as much money on this, with the reshoots at night, the scrapped sets and two fully functional hero Predator suits... this movie could have saved at least 20 million.
Either way, we won't get a sequel to this, expect another movie in 5 - 8 years in a full blown reboot with another studio. Disney won't make a Predator movie, they will sell the rights.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 01, 2018, 12:25:10 PM
So no pussy jokes for them... Sad...
Quote from: bobcunk on Oct 04, 2018, 03:41:08 AMThey can use Fox like Sony uses tristar columbia, right?Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 01, 2018, 09:59:26 AMI'm hoping Disney will create another studio for its mature movies. Maybe a netflix series or somthing.Quote from: spinksy on Oct 01, 2018, 09:17:55 AMPredators wasnt released in China in 2010.
I've been trying to find the box office numbers for Predators from China alone but haven't been able to find a definite answer.
should hopefully make a fair bit there though?
A China release won't "save" the movie, but more money at this point is always a good thing. It won't be profitable in it's theatrical run, unless it makes a 150 million in China, but China could actually push this thing, so that it can make some money for the studio in it's home release, which these movies sell very good on.
That being said, it's at a 115 million now, which is actually pretty good. I just wish they didn't waste as much money on this, with the reshoots at night, the scrapped sets and two fully functional hero Predator suits... this movie could have saved at least 20 million.
Either way, we won't get a sequel to this, expect another movie in 5 - 8 years in a full blown reboot with another studio. Disney won't make a Predator movie, they will sell the rights.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 04, 2018, 07:42:27 AM
It's sounding like it maybe a possibility that Fox will still exist under Disney.
Quote from: spinksy on Oct 01, 2018, 05:56:49 PMThis movie has the chance to break even, but that's about it i'm afraid.Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 01, 2018, 03:21:09 PMQuote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 01, 2018, 09:59:26 AMQuote from: spinksy on Oct 01, 2018, 09:17:55 AMPredators wasnt released in China in 2010.
I've been trying to find the box office numbers for Predators from China alone but haven't been able to find a definite answer.
should hopefully make a fair bit there though?
A China release won't "save" the movie, but more money at this point is always a good thing. It won't be profitable in it's theatrical run, unless it makes a 150 million in China, but China could actually push this thing, so that it can make some money for the studio in it's home release, which these movies sell very good on.
That being said, it's at a 115 million now, which is actually pretty good. I just wish they didn't waste as much money on this, with the reshoots at night, the scrapped sets and two fully functional hero Predator suits... this movie could have saved at least 20 million.
Either way, we won't get a sequel to this, expect another movie in 5 - 8 years in a full blown reboot with another studio. Disney won't make a Predator movie, they will sell the rights.
"Terminator Genisys" (which didn't even clear 100 Million domestically), practically broke even thanks to China, and China was the only driving force in getting a "Pacific Rim" sequel greenlit. However, in regards to our favorite green blooded alien, I really have no clue how "The Predator" will be received there. I would love it to do well there and recover, not necessarily for a direct sequel, but for the studio to recognize enough viability still exists in the franchise to greenlight another film. Sure Paramount cancelled the Genisys trilogy, but saw enough success with "Terminator Genisys" to give a new Terminator another go.
As a consolation prize, I would love a Predator series on a streaming service, but since Disney acquired the rights and are kicking off their own streaming service, I really wonder if they would consider Predator (and Alien for that matter) a good fit.
Exactly this, I want the film to make some money purely so that Fox/Disney can see that even with mainly negative reviews and fan opinion it can make money.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 04, 2018, 01:03:41 PM
If this makes a 150+ million worldwide and sells well on home video, we could be looking at a small Predator movie in the next couple of years again.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 04, 2018, 01:39:21 PM
Let's face it guys, it's clearly a big disappointment to say the least... I'd say it's even a real failure overall... I always thought it would be from the get go. It was deemed to be a Shane Black movie with Predator shoved in, obviously this wouldn't appeal to as many people as for other big 2018 movies.
QuoteLet's face it guys, it's clearly a big disappointment to say the leastNo one said it wasn't, it was certainly not what FOX was hoping for when they greenlit a 88 million budget.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 04, 2018, 02:09:35 PMThe problem is that they have made a movie that non fans dont like, and most of fans dont like it as well... It deserves to be a failure, they should erase it and make a new movie in the future, with predator serious tone. Not a prequel,,, please no more covenant type shitQuoteLet's face it guys, it's clearly a big disappointment to say the leastNo one said it wasn't, it was certainly not what FOX was hoping for when they greenlit a 88 million budget.
BUT, there is a chance to look beyong this movie, because it was a test, and attempt, to make more money if you spend more money, that was wrong, but it still makes good money if you look at the history of the franchise. Depending on China, it could be the biggest grossing Predator movie to date.
And given the fact that they churned them out for 35 - 40 million in the past, there is the chance that they see further potential in smaller storys.
Also, a franchise with a fanbase like this, there is always more to it than just the movie, you start a whole wave of sales. They release books for this (novels, prequel-books), action figures (Necas highest selling line to date) and replicas in all forms, plus it boost sales for the old movies as well. And on each sold piece, the studio makes money.
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 04, 2018, 02:09:35 PMQuoteLet's face it guys, it's clearly a big disappointment to say the leastNo one said it wasn't, it was certainly not what FOX was hoping for when they greenlit a 88 million budget.
BUT, there is a chance to look beyong this movie, because it was a test, and attempt, to make more money if you spend more money, that was wrong, but it still makes good money if you look at the history of the franchise. Depending on China, it could be the biggest grossing Predator movie to date.
And given the fact that they churned them out for 35 - 40 million in the past, there is the chance that they see further potential in smaller storys.
Also, a franchise with a fanbase like this, there is always more to it than just the movie, you start a whole wave of sales. They release books for this (novels, prequel-books), action figures (Necas highest selling line to date) and replicas in all forms, plus it boost sales for the old movies as well. And on each sold piece, the studio makes money.
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 04, 2018, 03:29:14 PMI cant see it being smaller then this. I dont k ow why it cost so much. But it felt like a smaller lower budget film. I think avp was cheaper to make and had more sets and effect shots i think.Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 04, 2018, 02:09:35 PMQuoteLet's face it guys, it's clearly a big disappointment to say the leastNo one said it wasn't, it was certainly not what FOX was hoping for when they greenlit a 88 million budget.
BUT, there is a chance to look beyong this movie, because it was a test, and attempt, to make more money if you spend more money, that was wrong, but it still makes good money if you look at the history of the franchise. Depending on China, it could be the biggest grossing Predator movie to date.
And given the fact that they churned them out for 35 - 40 million in the past, there is the chance that they see further potential in smaller storys.
Also, a franchise with a fanbase like this, there is always more to it than just the movie, you start a whole wave of sales. They release books for this (novels, prequel-books), action figures (Necas highest selling line to date) and replicas in all forms, plus it boost sales for the old movies as well. And on each sold piece, the studio makes money.
True. There are still ways in which the movie can indirectly benefit the franchise as a whole, by paving the way for smaller stories (now that we know the "big picture" equation isn't that appropriate) and more merchandise, i.e. comics, video games, etc.
Quote from: bobcunk on Oct 05, 2018, 02:29:27 AMReshoots, scrapped stuff and a CGI Predator, mostly. There is at least 15 - 20 million on this movie that didn't end up on the screen. It was never planned to be this expensive, why do you think Black had to shoot the 3rd act in full daytime at first?Quote from: Wysps on Oct 04, 2018, 03:29:14 PMI cant see it being smaller then this. I dont know why it cost so much.Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 04, 2018, 02:09:35 PMQuoteLet's face it guys, it's clearly a big disappointment to say the leastNo one said it wasn't, it was certainly not what FOX was hoping for when they greenlit a 88 million budget.
BUT, there is a chance to look beyong this movie, because it was a test, and attempt, to make more money if you spend more money, that was wrong, but it still makes good money if you look at the history of the franchise. Depending on China, it could be the biggest grossing Predator movie to date.
And given the fact that they churned them out for 35 - 40 million in the past, there is the chance that they see further potential in smaller storys.
Also, a franchise with a fanbase like this, there is always more to it than just the movie, you start a whole wave of sales. They release books for this (novels, prequel-books), action figures (Necas highest selling line to date) and replicas in all forms, plus it boost sales for the old movies as well. And on each sold piece, the studio makes money.
True. There are still ways in which the movie can indirectly benefit the franchise as a whole, by paving the way for smaller stories (now that we know the "big picture" equation isn't that appropriate) and more merchandise, i.e. comics, video games, etc.
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Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 05, 2018, 12:55:32 PM
Honestly AVP felt cheap too.
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 05, 2018, 12:55:32 PMMainly in terms of actors to be honest, parts of it felt quite grand for what it was.
Honestly AVP felt cheap too.
Quote from: newagescamartist on Oct 05, 2018, 07:39:26 PMQuote from: BigDaddyJohn on Oct 05, 2018, 12:55:32 PM
Honestly AVP felt cheap too.
It really did. I still think minimalism is the way to go with this franchise. Make really cheap ( but good ) movies, profit. Like the Saw movies.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 06, 2018, 08:17:34 PMJust the avp set of avp looked 1000 times more elaborate than the predator, wich looks like it was shoot in the forest behind the studio one night they got drunk.
I am going to be the dissenting opinion here and say neither "The Predator" nor "AvP" looked cheap to me.... but "Predators" certainly did. I cringe sometimes at all the normal Earth flora... or that everyday cloudy sky visible throughout (except for the one shot they could afford to matte the background sky with alien planets.)
Quote from: Nathsp on Oct 09, 2018, 09:02:15 AMQuote from: Voodoo Magic on Oct 06, 2018, 08:17:34 PMJust the avp set of avp looked 1000 times more elaborate than the predator, wich looks like it was shoot in the forest behind the studio one night they got drunk.
I am going to be the dissenting opinion here and say neither "The Predator" nor "AvP" looked cheap to me.... but "Predators" certainly did. I cringe sometimes at all the normal Earth flora... or that everyday cloudy sky visible throughout (except for the one shot they could afford to matte the background sky with alien planets.)
I dont feel predators as a cheap movie, it has great elements, and about the flora, they have a planet with similar earth conditions, may be they also create that rainforest, its something that doesnt bother to me.
And the super predators are made by practical, thays always nice, even if the design is not well executed, but it doesnt feel cheap as upgradre cgi, and that scene in the forest, it remains me a playstion 2 game..
Upcoming 10/26 China domestic theatrical release of 'The Predator' reimagined with film posters fighting ancient literary warriors: Li Wei (李逵) Guan Yunchang (关云长) Yang Lan (杨戬) The Monkey King (孙悟空) pic.twitter.com/jrtpZtac9h
— Content in China (@ContentinChina) October 9, 2018
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 09, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Upcoming 10/26 China domestic theatrical release of 'The Predator' reimagined with film posters fighting ancient literary warriors: Li Wei (李逵) Guan Yunchang (关云长) Yang Lan (杨戬) The Monkey King (孙悟空) <a href="https://t.co/jrtpZtac9h">pic.twitter.com/jrtpZtac9h</a></p>— Content in China (@ContentinChina) <a href="https://twitter.com/ContentinChina/status/1049679246954782721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 9, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Quote from: The Old One on Oct 09, 2018, 03:59:01 PM
Predator: Ancients
Quote from: Kailem on Oct 10, 2018, 01:27:38 PM
I feel like there are going to be some Chinese viewers who are going to be very confused when they find out this movie is set in the present day and features not even a hint of the Monkey King.
'The Predator' pops up at Beijing Great Wall, Canton Tower, Shanghai Oriental Pearl Tower, Xi'An Drum and Bell Tower with special posters ahead of 10/26 China domestic theatrical release pic.twitter.com/rHm0AdQvAd
— Content in China (@ContentinChina) October 11, 2018
I heard that Chinese version of The Predator has no dirty words...Fox redubbed it. Chinese audience can see those characters speak but can't hear the F- words. #ThePredator pic.twitter.com/B8rsqDyY8F
— Gavin Feng (@gavinfeng97) October 15, 2018
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 15, 2018, 10:19:40 AM
Cool chinese poster:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpiMXKdVsAA4AVq.jpg:large)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 15, 2018, 10:19:40 AM
Cool chinese poster:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpiMXKdVsAA4AVq.jpg:large)
Quote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 15, 2018, 10:19:40 AM
Cool chinese poster:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpiMXKdVsAA4AVq.jpg:large)
Quote from: ace3g on Oct 17, 2018, 05:53:27 AM
https://twitter.com/gavinfeng97/status/1052425413941714944
HQ of the poster:
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(https://p1.hoopchina.com.cn/gdc/jike/pic/ecc6e51b76151a62ad3554cd276286b1.jpg)
Quote from: pmaz11 on Oct 16, 2018, 04:00:11 PMQuote from: Johnny Handsome on Oct 15, 2018, 10:19:40 AM
Cool chinese poster:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpiMXKdVsAA4AVq.jpg:large)
Awesome poster! Too bad this showdown was extremely short lived :P but still a great shot of the two predators going head to head!
Quote from: Wysps on Oct 17, 2018, 08:40:06 PM
Looks pretty cool 8) But they continue to market the movie as if the fight between the two Predators takes up more of the plot. Which is kind of misleading.
New Posters For The Chinese Release of #ThePredator pic.twitter.com/7N3mI4uwJZ
— Juan Carlos Martínez (@maninthebox82) October 19, 2018
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Posters For The Chinese Release of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThePredator?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ThePredator</a> <a href="https://t.co/7N3mI4uwJZ">pic.twitter.com/7N3mI4uwJZ</a></p>— Juan Carlos Martínez (@maninthebox82) <a href="https://twitter.com/maninthebox82/status/1053379614930804736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Posters For The Chinese Release of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThePredator?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ThePredator</a> <a href="https://t.co/7N3mI4uwJZ">pic.twitter.com/7N3mI4uwJZ</a></p>— Juan Carlos Martínez (@maninthebox82) <a href="https://twitter.com/maninthebox82/status/1053379614930804736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Oct 19, 2018, 08:47:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New Posters For The Chinese Release of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThePredator?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ThePredator</a> <a href="https://t.co/7N3mI4uwJZ">pic.twitter.com/7N3mI4uwJZ</a></p>— Juan Carlos Martínez (@maninthebox82) <a href="https://twitter.com/maninthebox82/status/1053379614930804736?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 19, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Quote from: The Old One on Nov 03, 2018, 07:01:20 PM
Not good.
Quote from: Huggs on Nov 03, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
They should've just released it on bluray this month and been done with it. It might do decently in home sales, for awhile. But for cryin' out loud, put this poor thing out of its own misery already.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Nov 04, 2018, 12:16:48 PM
Yeah, not good! Put it out of its misery! 20 Million in its opening 3 days in China, for an 88 Million budgeted film. It will probably finish at 30-40. What were they thinking? ::)
Yea, we get it's not a great film, not a huge success, but let's not go overboard here with our commentary. ;)
Shane Black's THE PREDATOR has tracked down $108M int'l, $30M in China.
— Exhibitor Relations Co. (@ERCboxoffice) November 4, 2018